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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand to coverage like

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Speaker 1: no one else news talks.

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Speaker 2: They'd be.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon to you. Coming up on the show today, we

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Speaker 3: have the Finance Minister Nikola Willis. She'll talk us through

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Speaker 3: the government's help for families struggling to pay for gas,

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Speaker 3: Ax Party Deputy Brook van Valden on her surprise resignation

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Speaker 3: from Parliament today and the Lotter Boss on the changes

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Speaker 3: he's making.

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Speaker 2: Powerball Heather Duplicy Ellen.

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Speaker 3: If you were listening earlier this afternoon to the previous show,

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Speaker 3: Tyler's Show, you will have heard that not everyone loves

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Speaker 3: the package that the government has just announced to help

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Speaker 3: families pay their fuel bills because it's not for everyone.

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Speaker 3: So pensioners have complained that they should be helped as

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Speaker 3: well because they don't have enough money. Beneficiaries have complained,

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Speaker 3: Diesel users have complained because their fuel has actually gone

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Speaker 3: up much more than petrol. And then there are also

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Speaker 3: wealthy people who are complaining because they don't have kids

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Speaker 3: and they're complaining they once again getting nothing while the

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Speaker 3: breeders are and they're subsidizing them. Now, I understand the

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Speaker 3: sentiment from everyone, all of it is fair, But I

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Speaker 3: think the government is right to have limited this package

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Speaker 3: like they have because we are just too broke as

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Speaker 3: a country to shell out fifty bucks a week for everyone,

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Speaker 3: including millionaires. Plus. We have just spent four years fighting inflation.

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Speaker 3: We know what that feels like, right, We know how

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Speaker 3: hard that is. The last thing we want to do

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Speaker 3: just goes Inflation just goes up again, and we have

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Speaker 3: to start this fight again. So if you have to

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Speaker 3: choose who you give the money to, you choose workers

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Speaker 3: because they have to get to work beneficiaries. Don't you

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Speaker 3: choose parents because their budgets are much less flexible. They

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Speaker 3: have added fixed costs that they just cannot escape, like childcare,

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Speaker 3: like dropping the kids off at school. I think the

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Speaker 3: government's actually done a pretty good job here of threading

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Speaker 3: the needle with this package. It's not inflationary if it's

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Speaker 3: only reallocating money that would have been spent at the

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Speaker 3: budget anyway. It's not taking on any extra debt that

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Speaker 3: wouldn't already have been taken on because it's in the

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Speaker 3: budget anyway, it has an off ramp of ending this

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Speaker 3: payment after a year or when the price of ninety

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Speaker 3: one falls under three dollars for four consecutive weeks, whichever

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Speaker 3: comes first. I think part of the reason that so

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Speaker 3: many people are complaining today is because Jacinda and Grant

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Speaker 3: and COVID have got us addicted to government help. If

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Speaker 3: there is a problem, we now first of all expect

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Speaker 3: it's our defaults to expect the government to fix it,

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Speaker 3: isn't it. And we often expect the government to fix

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Speaker 3: it with money. We need to get off that because

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Speaker 3: we should have learned what happens after that. What happens

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Speaker 3: when you turn on the money hose from the government

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Speaker 3: is then you get inflation, then you get a recession.

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Speaker 3: Being more targeted and being more disciplined. Yep, even if

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Speaker 3: most of us miss out, the vast majority of us

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Speaker 3: miss out ultimately does mean less pain for us all.

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Speaker 2: Ever, duper c Ellens.

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Speaker 3: Ninety two text number standard text is apply and I

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Speaker 3: do want to hear from you, and then nikolallis is

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Speaker 3: with us after five Now, Unfortunately, it's another blow for

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Speaker 3: vegetable growers today. McCain the world's largest manufacturer of Frozen

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Speaker 3: process vegetables in z Chairman David Hadfielders with us. Hi, David, Hello, David,

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Speaker 3: did you know this was coming or was this a

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Speaker 4: A shock? Yes, definitely, But we suspected round our board

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Speaker 3: Soap who are the others?

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Speaker 4: So there's what there's and Tally's.

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Speaker 3: Is Tally's going to do something similar?

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. They're not as big and more

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Speaker 3: So do you think that we can say this is

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Speaker 4: So there's not much left of the industry that the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it really does some grim, doesn't it.

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 3: Since you found out, which was a couple of hours ago,

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Speaker 4: None of them knew anything was happening. Was shocked through them.

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Speaker 4: One of them I spoke to was a very large

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Speaker 4: they didn't let anybody know that this was happening.

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Speaker 3: What do these growers do? Do they do they have

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Speaker 3: the option of dairy conversion?

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Speaker 4: Well, Hawks Bay guys probably don't to the same extent

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Speaker 4: in Canterbury. You're either cell your land for subdivision or

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Speaker 3: What happens if you're in Hastings? Yeah, in Hawk's Bay?

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Speaker 4: What are your options growing more wearable crops or livestock?

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Speaker 6: Really?

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Speaker 4: Or you or you put apples or key fruit or

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and either way you're facing a massive cost down.

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Speaker 3: You what does this do to the cost on the

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Speaker 3: shelves that we're paying for? I mean, not that this

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Speaker 4: Well, there's all the important stuff that's coming in, and

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Speaker 4: you know that's coming from countries with subsidies or you know,

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Speaker 4: you don't know the quality. At least New Zealand Food

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Speaker 4: and we're ordered to do on. So, yeah, we've been

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Speaker 4: don't entirely blame the processes either. I've seen some of

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Speaker 4: their margins. They don't make a lot more than the grower.

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Speaker 4: The money is made further down the track. And with

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Speaker 3: Do you think we just need to accept that this

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Speaker 4: We can't compete with them, and we can't compete with

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Speaker 4: food security. Just you know what happens if we have

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Speaker 4: a spat with China, that's the end of the dairy industry.

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Speaker 3: If we have a spat with well, food security and

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Speaker 3: milk that we're going to have to drink. But what

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Speaker 3: We're actually probably got sufficient to live off.

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Speaker 4: We're getting important to fish vegetables as well coming in.

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Speaker 4: So that's driving out local production and housing is encroaching

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Speaker 4: I do not blame the people who own the land

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Speaker 4: They can do what they like. With it, but at

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Speaker 4: a higher government level it is causing quite a problem

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Speaker 4: that the good productive land is being gribled up for

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Speaker 3: I'm actually glad you raised that because I did want

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Speaker 3: to say something about that. David, Thank you. David Hadfield

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Speaker 3: processed vegetables and z in chairperson. Yeah, I was driving

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Speaker 3: Like it was like that now houses bloody everywhere, and

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Speaker 3: that has got to be good growing land, surely to God,

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Speaker 3: because it's in the Book of koe Basin, Like, surely

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Speaker 3: good idea? Heather? The kids go on leave. This is

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Speaker 3: So why should the parents get fifty bucks? Because, Sue,

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Speaker 3: Homos right now, you're going to be paying for this.

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Speaker 3: Nicholas said, probably a year thing. Sixteen past four it's.

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Speaker 3: Zeb Heather, how much taxes on fuel is the government

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Speaker 3: making a fortune? Now this has become a thing. This

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Speaker 3: has become something of a spat between Nichola Willis and

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Speaker 3: come and pissing. Okay, so Tana, what a surprise?

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Speaker 7: a lovely man. Not only that, he's experienced a lot

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Speaker 7: cutting his teeth coaching he has done across a number

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Speaker 7: of different super teams. People's instant response to you, but

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Speaker 7: what's he won? Not his job?

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Speaker 7: Well, he hasn't won a great deal but as a coach,

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Speaker 7: but he's not that he coached Dave Reennie is and

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Speaker 7: Dave Rennie wants to surround themselves with men he knows

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Speaker 7: and trust them. Before you say, but Scott Robinson did

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Speaker 7: the same thing. What I like about all these appointments,

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Speaker 7: Talk tonight to speak about this is they have particular

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Speaker 7: And he's very defined in that you do that, you

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Speaker 3: As the stupidest idea I've heard. Darcy, Thank you. I'm

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Speaker 9: At the time we swore on the house Flora and

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Speaker 3: The sea bomb, so she has it's literally she's got

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Speaker 3: Bank Governor Anna Bremen has given a speech today. This

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on news talks, they'd be drive.

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump has given Iran another five days to open

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Speaker 3: He says, there have been fruitful peace negotiations, and.

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Speaker 4: So we're giving it five days and then we're going

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Speaker 10: To stop.

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Speaker 11: Stopt And Finally, a sports trophy that went missing a

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Speaker 1: For it though International correspondence with ends and eye insurance,

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Speaker 3: Murriold's Osby correspond And so that's a MUDs afternoon, Heather,

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Speaker 12: Have you?

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Speaker 13: And it's a very big day for Australia and for Europe,

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Speaker 6: You've got to change a new reality. She said.

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Speaker 6: So that's a big part of the problems.

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Speaker 3: Actually, the rational thing to do. It's what people in

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Speaker 3: crisis management will tell you have to do, so doing

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Speaker 3: the right thing. Thank you for your time, mate, look

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Speaker 3: after yourself. We'll talk to you soon. As Murray Old's

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Speaker 3: Ossie correspondent, it's nineteen away from five, Heather doul whether

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Speaker 3: that is very sexist what you just said about having

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Speaker 3: a boy. Look, I always find things after my wife

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Speaker 3: tells me where it is. That's right, Mars, It's exactly

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Speaker 3: how it works.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: What we're just referring to there in the world wire

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Speaker 3: is about Trump Trump Trump and the peace talks. It

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Speaker 3: is a bit of a conundrum, isn't it as to

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Speaker 3: who to believe on whether there have been peace talks here?

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Speaker 3: Because it's not like either side is particularly credible, is it.

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump is a known liar are pretty clearly bad

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Speaker 3: faith actors. So which of the if he's going yet

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Speaker 3: there have been peace talks and they're going No, they

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Speaker 3: haven't been peace talks. I love that everybody in the

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Speaker 3: mainstream media has just gone on Tehran's right, Oh he's wrong.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Why are you taking their word for it? It's quite bizarre.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I would take either of their word.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, Matthew Schmid is a chap who's an international

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Speaker 3: relations expert, who's a bit of a military strategy analyst.

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Speaker 3: He'll be with us after half past five and run

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Speaker 3: us through exactly what he thinks is going on here.

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Speaker 3: Trump probably either way, he probably got what he wanted

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Speaker 3: by backing down from that threat to bomb the energy infrastructure,

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Speaker 3: because within minutes of him sending out that truth social post,

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Speaker 3: the oil price is plunged more than thirteen percent, the

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Speaker 3: Treasury yields tumbled about zero point two two percentage points.

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Speaker 3: Trade has signaled that US stocks would surge at the

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Speaker 3: opening doll That's exactly what happened when the US markets opened.

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Speaker 3: The SMP five hundred jump two point two percent, which

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Speaker 3: is the biggest rally since May if there is a

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Speaker 3: problem here in this reaction and you could you could

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Speaker 3: probably say slight overreaction to something that Donald Trump is

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Speaker 3: said on social media. It's that it's treating what he

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Speaker 3: says as if he is the only one calling the

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Speaker 3: shots here. This is not like the Trump tariffs, right,

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Speaker 3: This is not when Donald Trump goes, yeah, the tariff's on. No,

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Speaker 3: the tariff's off, and he gets to call those shots.

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Speaker 3: There's another big player here, which is to run. They

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Speaker 3: get to control what happens as well. So relying and

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Speaker 3: relying so heavily just what he says, maybe putting too

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Speaker 3: much faith in him anyway, Again, we'll talk to Matthew

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Speaker 3: Schmid about it when he is with us after half

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Speaker 3: past five. Barry soapas with us next seventeen Away from.

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Speaker 1: Five Politics with Centrics credit check your customers and get

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Speaker 1: payments certainty.

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Speaker 3: Bright Nikola willis Finance Minister with us after five on

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Speaker 3: her package which he's just announced. It's quarter to and

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Speaker 3: Barry Soaper, senior political correspondent, is here.

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Speaker 10: Hi, Barry, good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of this package?

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Speaker 7: Well, you know it's.

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Speaker 10: For low and middle income earners and earners being the

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Speaker 10: key word here, because beneficiaries do miss out, and the

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Speaker 10: fact that it's being paid for through the budgetary process,

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Speaker 10: I think is a good thing. That's providing they can

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Speaker 10: stick to the two points. I think it's three billion

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Speaker 10: dollars they've got to.

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Speaker 2: Spend, isn't it?

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Speaker 10: Is it well thereabouts in the budget, so you know,

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Speaker 10: as long as it's not borrowed, which is a big concern.

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Speaker 10: I suspect quite a lot of it will be borrowed.

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Speaker 10: But the payment, I think is quite a good one.

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Speaker 10: And tack to the price of ninety one octane petrol

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Speaker 10: is interesting. Everybody be watching the petrol pump that's eligible

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Speaker 10: for this, hoping that it doesn't go under the three

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Speaker 10: dollar mark. And now that upset the Greens co leaded

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Speaker 10: Chloe Swarbrick, who says those in the most desperate need

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Speaker 10: are missing out, which he posed to the Prime Minister

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Speaker 10: during question time today.

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Speaker 14: Why did he say that his government would quote provide

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Speaker 14: support to those who need it most end quote if

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Speaker 14: they were going to exclude almost half an billion of

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Speaker 14: the lowest income New Zealanders on a.

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Speaker 15: Benefit beneficiaries are receiving as on the first of April,

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Speaker 15: a cost of living adjustment are reflecting essentially cost of living.

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Speaker 16: The working low.

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Speaker 17: And middle income, working News Islanders who.

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Speaker 15: Wake up each and every day, who drive to work,

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Speaker 15: take their kids to school, are working incredibly hard.

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Speaker 16: Are the ones that are hurt the most through this period.

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Speaker 10: So they're making no apologies for that, and I think

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Speaker 10: most people would say, yes, we'll the beneficiaries are getting

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Speaker 10: an increase, and you know, if you are on a benefit,

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Speaker 10: you've got to be generally paid less than someone who.

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Speaker 3: You need that game to be significant. Yeah, otherwise it's

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Speaker 3: too easy to sit on a benefit carry out.

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Speaker 10: Yeah. Well, the other thing, it's all to do with

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Speaker 10: what's going on in the Middle East at the moment.

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Speaker 10: You know, you've talked about I think the nineteen countries

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Speaker 10: who have signed up to protecting the straight New Zealand

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Speaker 10: being one of them, and we're along with the UK,

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Speaker 10: Germany and Canada, pledging to contribute to effort securing navigation

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Speaker 10: rights in the Strait. While condemning the actions, the New

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Speaker 10: Zealand government had stated that no direct military contribution will

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Speaker 10: be made and that's pretty important for this country.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 10: That threw up a labor mp that I hadn't heard

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Speaker 10: before Venushie Walters, who had three years in Parliament from

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Speaker 10: twenty twenty and came back on the Labor list last

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Speaker 10: year when David Parker resigned. Now she's the Labor Foreign

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Speaker 10: Affair spokesperson and pitched herself against the old warhorse himself,

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Speaker 10: Winston Peters, and got more than she bargained for.

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Speaker 18: The expectation that we are working with the UN on

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Speaker 18: the issues with the Strait Carries, with its serious implications

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Speaker 18: for our potential complicity and breaches of international law, for

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Speaker 18: the associated costs and risks of committing defense personnel and

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Speaker 18: defense resources. This clearly hasn't been well thought through, I

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Speaker 18: thought through at all.

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Speaker 19: That is one of the worst performances I've ever seen

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Speaker 19: in foreign affairs in my short time in this house.

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Speaker 19: We have also had outright scam marketing from our critics

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Speaker 19: who said the Governor's rushing to contribute military forces to

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Speaker 19: this conflict.

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Speaker 16: That's what that spokespss has said.

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Speaker 7: Are you listening?

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Speaker 2: What absolute crap?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 10: It's not like Winterston to use he says ball dust

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Speaker 10: instead of something.

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Speaker 3: Else ring out in his older I.

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Speaker 7: Think he is leading himself loose.

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Speaker 3: If you love it, now, how far are we of

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's obviously no immediate threat of your shortages,

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Speaker 3: but what are they saying?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, there was probably another MP that a bit

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Speaker 10: of more than she could chew. Today when firing questions

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Speaker 10: at Shane Jones, the Associate Energy Minister, it was the

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Speaker 10: blame game as to why we're now possibly facing fuel shortages.

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Speaker 7: And you guessed it here that the closure.

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Speaker 10: Of Marsden Point, the Marsden Point Oil refinery was the

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Speaker 10: big stick wave by Jonesy and what it's meant.

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Speaker 20: The loss of seven hundred million litters of storage. We

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Speaker 20: New Zealanders would have that if that woman had not

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Speaker 20: have closed the refinery. Supplementary question, does he regret scrapping

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Speaker 20: the emergency diesel reserve later put in place On matters

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Speaker 20: as to who told cabinet what that member said, we

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Speaker 20: need to make an active decision. We have the option

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Speaker 20: of maintaining a refinery capacity, but it requires an active

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Speaker 20: decision by government. That government made an active decision to

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Speaker 20: close the refinery.

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Speaker 19: Supplementary cris apologizing.

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Speaker 20: That member said the likelihood of a major fuel import

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Speaker 20: disruption is small in the next ten to fifteen years. Consequently,

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Speaker 20: she closed the refinery.

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Speaker 10: He mentioned the closure of the refinery probably a dozen

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Speaker 10: times during that question time, and of course that person

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Speaker 10: was Meagan Woods, and he is right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they had the option to underwrite it for

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Speaker 3: ten years, and if they didn't underwrite it, it was an

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Speaker 3: active decision.

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Speaker 10: Most certainly did. And you know, I mean, I'm sure

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Speaker 10: that Laban must now surely be looking back on what

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Speaker 10: it did. One of the first acts when it came

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Speaker 10: to office was oil and gas permits all.

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Speaker 7: Being double by double.

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Speaker 3: It bums up to the end for that, Barry, thanks

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Speaker 3: very much, appreciate. It's Barry so Per, Senior political correspondent,

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Speaker 3: eight away from.

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Speaker 1: Five, the headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic

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Speaker 1: asking Breakfast.

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Speaker 21: Lauren Dedamello is the Senior Lecturer Department of Apply Finance

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Speaker 21: and Refined Oil Expert at Macquarie University. If we ADUs

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Speaker 21: our standards, do we automatically get access to a lot

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Speaker 21: more oil work.

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Speaker 22: Like that the shipments have to be available. A lot

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Speaker 22: of other countries have also reduced their standards. I'm not

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Speaker 22: sure exactly what the New Zealand government's trying to say here,

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Speaker 22: but at the same time they're saying we're not going

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Speaker 22: to allow people have been calling dirty fuel. So the

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Speaker 22: fuel with fifty past per million that's been put in

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Speaker 22: our tanks for the last ten years, if the government's

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Speaker 22: allowing that to come back in, it's not going to

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Speaker 22: do anything no environmental damage that some people are thinking.

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Speaker 21: Back tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 21: Rain Drivers fort SV Newstalk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Five away from five. Actually, Winston Peters is on something

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Speaker 3: of a bit of a tear today. He held one

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Speaker 3: of those those little impromptu media conference stand up things

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Speaker 3: on the tiles at Parliament and he said that he'd

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Speaker 3: got a letter from the Greens offering support to split

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Speaker 3: split up the Gene Tailors, which is clearly what they're

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Speaker 3: going to be doing at the election, the old New

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Speaker 3: Zealand First Party anyway. So he's got this letter from

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Speaker 3: the Green so he holds it up and it's got

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Speaker 3: Green Party letterhead on the top and then it's got

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Speaker 3: the signatures and Mademaus signatures at the bottom, and the

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Speaker 3: body of the letter that they've written to him is

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Speaker 3: just felt pen scribbles. He's just got he's just kind

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Speaker 3: of got some fealt pens and drawn some like random

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Speaker 3: pic like it's not even pictures, it's scribbles anyway. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's that's amusing that. What he's doing is he's catering

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Speaker 3: to those of us with a low IQ. So I'm

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Speaker 3: easily amused by just kind of juvenile school yard jokes

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Speaker 3: like that. Having a crack at the Greens. I thoroughly

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Speaker 3: enjoyed it from Winston. More of that, please will make

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Speaker 3: the selection completely able to be suffered? Is it sufferable?

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Speaker 3: Is it sufferable? The opposite of insufferable? It is today

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Speaker 3: now Brook van Valden, whereas the kids like to call

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Speaker 3: her bvv now. One of her big claims to fame

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Speaker 3: and why she doesn't have to do the job anymore,

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Speaker 3: is because she was the youngest cabinet member in history,

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Speaker 3: like Bingo Carda's fault, right, But.

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Speaker 23: I've also been the youngest cabinet minister in history.

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Speaker 3: Have you though, Brooke, So we've done. Look this is

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Speaker 3: this is some would say unfairly harsh on her, but

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Speaker 3: we think that she's wrong, so we think it might

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Speaker 3: have been. Phil Goff. Phil Goff was born on June

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Speaker 3: twenty second, nineteen fifty three. First appointed to Cabinet July

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Speaker 3: twenty sixth nineteen eighty four. That makes him eleven three

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty seven days old when he was appointed,

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Speaker 3: So he was thirty one years and thirty four days.

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Speaker 3: Brookler was born on the fifteenth of October nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 3: I know, nineteen ninety two. I know she was appointed

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Speaker 3: to cabinet on the twenty seventh of November twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: That makes her eleven thy, three hundred and sixty five

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Speaker 3: days old when she was appointed. That's thirty one years

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Speaker 3: and forty three days. So we think thirty one years

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Speaker 3: and thirty four days is younger than thirty one years

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Speaker 3: and forty three days. We think Phil GoF was eight

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Speaker 3: days younger than her eight days. Now, look, I mean,

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Speaker 3: far be it from me to pick somebody up on

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Speaker 3: eight days, but eight days worth of fuel is a lot.

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Speaker 3: Eight days worth of being alive is probably a lot.

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Speaker 3: We'll ask brook about it. Actually, do you know what

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Speaker 3: We've got? Brook?

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Speaker 4: Next?

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Speaker 3: Shortly short obviously Nickolin next, then we've got brook and

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Speaker 3: then we've got the youngest cabinet minister in New Zealand's history,

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Speaker 3: Phil Goff on the huddle later on, and we have

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Speaker 3: to talk about Lotto because Loto is getting a shake up.

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Speaker 3: The power balls there's more of them stand by newstalks.

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Speaker 2: EDB the only drive show.

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Speaker 1: You can try the truck to ask the question, you

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Speaker 1: get the answers, find a fact sack and give the analysis.

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Speaker 2: Hither duplicy el and drive with one New Zealand and

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Speaker 2: the power of satellite Mobile.

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Speaker 6: News Talks V.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon. The government has announced its package to help

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Speaker 3: families feeling the pinch at the petrol pump. About one

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Speaker 3: hundred and forty thousand will receive an extra fifty dollars

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Speaker 3: a week through a boost to the n work tax credit.

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Speaker 3: The Finance Minister Nichola Willis made the announcement today. Hei Nikola,

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Speaker 3: Hi eather. Now you have said that this is limited

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Speaker 3: to a year. Is that how long you're expecting the

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Speaker 3: price of fuel to remain elevated?

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Speaker 24: Well, actually there are two off ramps for this policy.

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Speaker 24: It will either last for one year or until the

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Speaker 24: price of ninety one octane petrol drops below three dollars

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Speaker 24: a liter for four consecutive weeks. So if that's the

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Speaker 24: case then we will the policy will end. But if

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Speaker 24: the price of petrol stays above three dollars a liter

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Speaker 24: for the year, then it will last for a year.

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Speaker 3: Should we, though, mentally be preparing ourselves for the possibility

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Speaker 3: that it is up there for a year.

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Speaker 24: Well, as you know, there are such a range of

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Speaker 24: scenarios being discussed internationally about how this conflict will continue

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Speaker 24: to unfold. What we do know is that, regardless of

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Speaker 24: whether the conflict ends tomorrow, we can anticipate disruption to

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Speaker 24: supply chains for oil and refined fuels for some time.

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Speaker 24: What that means for the price of petrol at the

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Speaker 24: pump in New Zealand is so contingent on so many

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Speaker 24: questions we don't have definitive answers to that. Our view

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Speaker 24: was given prices could be elevated for a long time.

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Speaker 24: Let's provide a temporary policy that we can exit if

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Speaker 24: petrol prices do come down, but we can also exit

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Speaker 24: if they don't, and that's why we've set the one

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Speaker 24: year limit.

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Speaker 3: Are you surprised at the level of complaining that's coming

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Speaker 3: from people who are not getting the support now?

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Speaker 24: I completely understand that because just about every New Zealander

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Speaker 24: and every business is feeling it right now, and I

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Speaker 24: get it.

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Speaker 23: Everyone wants relief.

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Speaker 24: The government finds itself in a difficult position, which is that,

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Speaker 24: if for example, we were to remove all fuel tax,

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Speaker 24: all fed and ruck for a year, that would cost

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Speaker 24: four billion dollars. That's more than all of the additional spendings,

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Speaker 24: almost twice all the additional spending. I've pledged we will

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Speaker 24: restrict this year's budget two. And we're in a position

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Speaker 24: where the country built up massive amounts of debt during

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Speaker 24: COVID in a position to be going on a big

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Speaker 24: spend up, and in fact, if we did that, we

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Speaker 24: could drive inflation even higher, creating more pain for longer.

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Speaker 24: So I'm determined that we take a really careful, targeted

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Speaker 24: response that protects not just New zealander Is today, but

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Speaker 24: actually our economic future. And I recognize that that is

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Speaker 24: tough because a lot of people want relief, But my

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Speaker 24: responsibility is to make sure I deliver relief that won't

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Speaker 24: boost overall inflation and is sensible given the world is

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Speaker 24: fragile and we can't keep borrowing forever.

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Speaker 3: Now re Chris Hipkins's allegation that you're making a windfall

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Speaker 3: from the price of fuel going up. Have you calculated

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Speaker 3: how much the government might make an extra GST?

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Speaker 24: So this is just a nonsense claim, because yes, GST

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Speaker 24: is proportionate to how much the fuel tax is. But

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Speaker 24: on the other side, people who are spending more on petrol, heather,

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Speaker 24: are spending less on other things, whether that's the cafe,

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Speaker 24: whether that's their retail spending, whether that's other things. So

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Speaker 24: in general, I've been advised, don't be expecting that you're

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Speaker 24: going to be getting more revenue as a result of

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Speaker 24: this international crisis. In fact, the risks are to the downside,

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Speaker 24: that we will be getting less tax as a result

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Speaker 24: of this crisis. So I think he's making up numbers.

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Speaker 24: I think he's making them up on the fly. And

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Speaker 24: the simple reality is this is the guy who racked

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Speaker 24: up billions of dollars of debt in response to COVID

751
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Speaker 24: sprayed the money gone around, and is always looking for

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Speaker 24: another excuse to do that. Well, that creates pain for everyone.

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Speaker 24: We will not be repeating that mistake.

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Speaker 3: Shane Jones has again mentioned the fact that you guys

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Speaker 3: are looking at how you might control demand for fuel,

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Speaker 3: as in getting us to consume less of it. How

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Speaker 3: far away from doing something there are we?

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Speaker 24: Well, well, we're quite some ways away from that because

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Speaker 24: our number one answer is, let's get the supply into

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Speaker 24: the country, and we're working very hard on that. That's

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Speaker 24: why you saw us relax fuel specifications yesterday. So we're

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Speaker 24: working for very hard on that, but we're being responsible.

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Speaker 24: We're also saying if we got to the point where

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Speaker 24: we actually weren't getting enough fuel into the country, we

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Speaker 24: need to think ahead to that moment and what we

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Speaker 24: would do, and what the Fuel Plan published in twenty

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Speaker 24: four envisages is that in some circumstances you would work

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Speaker 24: to either voluntarily ask people to reduce their fuel use,

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Speaker 24: or in an extreme instance, you would work with fuel

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Speaker 24: companies to ration the fuel use to its most important needs.

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Speaker 24: Now that's an end step. Goal is to avoid that

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Speaker 24: at all costs because, as you know, if we were

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Speaker 24: doing that, that would harm the economy, that would harm

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Speaker 24: New Zealanders.

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Speaker 23: It's not a good thing. It's not something we want

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Speaker 23: to bring on.

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Speaker 24: We're taking all the other steps to prevent that, but

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Speaker 24: it's also wise and prudent for us to plan for

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Speaker 24: a worst caast scenario.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff, Niola, Thanks very much, Nicola, Willis's Finance Minister.

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Speaker 2: Twelve past five together duplessy Ellen Max.

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Speaker 3: Deputy leader has made the surprise announcement today that she

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Speaker 3: will not be running at this year's election. She has

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Speaker 3: been in Parliament since twenty twenty and Brooklyn Valden with us.

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Speaker 23: Now, Hi Brooke, Hi Heather, how are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm very well, thank you. How do you feel after

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Speaker 3: that announcement?

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Speaker 23: Oh? I actually feel great. I'm very excited for what

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Speaker 23: the next chapter could bring. But for all of your

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Speaker 23: listeners out there, I will still be governing right to

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Speaker 23: the election store so I'm still in Parliament today working hard. Look,

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Speaker 23: I think for me it has been quite a hard

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Speaker 23: decision because it feels like the easy option for me

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Speaker 23: is to continue on the treadmill in and stay down

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Speaker 23: in the beehive. I know people can get quite addicted

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Speaker 23: to it, but I also, right in my heart, feel

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Speaker 23: like I want to live a bit more of life

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Speaker 23: and see what other opportunities there are out there for me.

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Speaker 23: But ultimately I do love public service, so at some

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Speaker 23: point in the future I think I could be back

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Speaker 23: for it. But I think I would also benefit from

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Speaker 23: bringing back some of those public private sector experiences that

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Speaker 23: I would gain.

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Speaker 3: Would you be coming, I mean you've mentioned this enough today,

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Speaker 3: The possibility of coming back for me to think that

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Speaker 3: this is part of your plan. Would you be coming

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Speaker 3: back to Parliament.

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Speaker 23: Well, I don't want to rule out the possibility because

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Speaker 23: I have really loved what I have done. But at

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Speaker 23: this point in my life when I look back, and

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Speaker 23: I know some people might think thirty three, that's still young,

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Speaker 23: You've got another decade in you. But at thirty three,

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Speaker 23: having already done nine years of public service, six is

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Speaker 23: an MP and six as the Deputy Leader, I do

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Speaker 23: wonder what is that next step for me? And I

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Speaker 23: really do want to experience what is out there in

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Speaker 23: the private sector with the background and the skills that

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Speaker 23: I've already gained here in governance and in Parliament. But

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Speaker 23: I'm very proud of the work that I've done today.

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Speaker 23: I think I've been very effective as a minister, but

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Speaker 23: I think I've got a lot to also offer in

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Speaker 23: the private sector.

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Speaker 3: Have you already been offered another job?

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Speaker 23: I haven't.

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Speaker 25: No.

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Speaker 23: I've been really mainly making this decision hand on heart

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Speaker 23: because I need to think of what's in the best

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Speaker 23: interests of the party and looking at the year ahead,

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Speaker 23: I can absolutely guarantee my heart will be in it

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Speaker 23: for the next year. But I can't guarantee it would

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Speaker 23: be for the next four years. So this allows new

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Speaker 23: talent and fresh blood to come into act and I'm

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Speaker 23: really excited to know what that will actually mean for

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Speaker 23: the party.

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Speaker 3: Now we have to we have to challenge you on something.

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Speaker 3: We think that Phil GoF might be the youngest cabinet

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Speaker 3: minister by eight days. We check that out. Did you

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Speaker 3: run it through chat GPT.

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Speaker 23: I do believe that is true. So I believe I

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Speaker 23: may have been the youngest at the date of the election,

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Speaker 23: but because Winston took such a long time to figure

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Speaker 23: out where he was going to go, he took a

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Speaker 23: very long negotiating time. I ended up eight days older

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Speaker 23: than Phil Goff.

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Speaker 3: And with at the end again, hey, thank you very much, Brook,

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Speaker 3: appreciate it. Look after yourself, Brook van Velden, outgoing act

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Speaker 3: Deputy leader. Listen, I have got if you're interested in

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Speaker 3: our fuel supplies and the question of whether we've got enough,

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Speaker 3: I've got a really good website to recommend to you.

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Speaker 3: So I'll do that shortly. But Loto next sixteen past five.

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Speaker 3: So here's what happened to me. When the boys at

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Speaker 3: BYD took away their tiniest car, which is the Atto one.

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Speaker 3: The other day they gave me the opposite. They gave

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Speaker 3: me their biggest car to drive, which is the Sea

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Speaker 3: Lion eight. And let me tell you, this is a

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Speaker 3: big car. It's got seven seats, it's a plug in hybrid.

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Speaker 3: But get this. You can do one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: k's range in pure EV mode, then you can do

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Speaker 3: another thousand in the hybrid. And because it's a super hybrid,

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Speaker 3: if you don't have a charger, you don't need to worry.

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Speaker 3: You never have to plug it in. I took it

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Speaker 3: for a drive to the Cormandal over the weekend. Three

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Speaker 3: hours there, three hours back. It was luxury. I had

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Speaker 3: the seat massages going for three hours straight. Yes, there

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Speaker 3: are seat massages in this car, front and back. And

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Speaker 3: it's fast zero to one hundred and under five seconds

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Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty nine killer what power. But it

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Speaker 3: uses as little as get this, as little as one

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Speaker 3: liter of petrol per one hundred kilometers a European equivalent

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Speaker 3: would seek you back over two hundred thousand k This

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Speaker 3: starts at just seventy four nine ninety And don't forget

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Speaker 3: byd is also just won the consumer. New Zealand People's

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Speaker 3: Choice Award, So I'm not the Owlyn one loving their cows.

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Speaker 3: Check it out byd Auto dot co dot NZ together

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Speaker 3: do for c l nineteen past five. I'll get to

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Speaker 3: your text in a tick. Lotto is getting its first

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Speaker 3: big revamp in twenty years. There will now be more

878
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 3: balls in the powerball machine. At the moment there are

879
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 3: ten is going to go up to fourteen, and they're

880
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: also adding an eighth division now. Jason Delamore is the

881
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 3: Lotto chief executive. Hi Jason, Hi, he why are you

882
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 3: making it harder to win the big One?

883
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 15: We're not necessarily making it harder. There's certainly a change

884
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 15: to the number of balls that go into the powerball drawer,

885
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 15: and that enables us to increase the size of the prizes,

886
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 15: both the entry prize from four to five million and

887
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 15: there must be one from fifty to sixty million. But

888
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 15: it also allows us to introduce a division eight, which

889
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Speaker 15: significantly increases the number of winners that enjoy Loto every drawer.

890
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Speaker 3: Forgive me if I'm wrong, because my understanding was that

891
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 3: by through the changes that you're making, it does become

892
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 3: harder to win that big power Ball, which is now

893
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 3: which is now sixty million, up from fifty Am I wrong?

894
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 15: No, that is correct from a Odds perspective, only you

895
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 15: put that into perspectives, so that means on the average,

896
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Speaker 15: winning a jackpot the jackpot draw goes from every three

897
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 15: weeks to about every three and a half week, So

898
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Speaker 15: that probably puts into a bit more contexts that folks

899
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Speaker 15: can understand.

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Speaker 3: Will we winning it too much too often?

901
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 15: That is a consequence if you don't keep the game

902
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 15: up to speed. So one of the things that has

903
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Speaker 15: happened in New Zealand since who made the last change

904
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Speaker 15: is our population is actually increased by over a million people,

905
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 15: and so it's very normal for lotteries to tune their

906
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Speaker 15: powerball and their lottery games in keeping with the population.

907
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Speaker 3: Now, the new eighth division which you've added, which obviously,

908
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 3: as you say, will have more frequent little winners. What's

909
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 3: the prize? How small is it?

910
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 15: We've yet to announce that, Heather, So that will come

911
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 15: later on in a month or two. We're getting closer

912
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Speaker 15: to the full announcement.

913
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Speaker 3: Like give me, give me, because you know I need

914
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 3: to know. Are we dealing in hundreds of thousands, hundreds tens?

915
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 15: What are we dealing with hair, it'll be a smaller

916
00:44:58,640 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 15: cash price.

917
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 3: What's small to you?

918
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Speaker 15: It's when you get closer to the dates you'll be

919
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Speaker 15: the first recall.

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Speaker 3: We had a discussion about this. Everybody has got completely

921
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Speaker 3: different different ideas of like what does an acceptable lotto win?

922
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 3: I think you can.

923
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Speaker 15: You can have a lottery prize on what it will be.

924
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Speaker 3: My I reckon anything short of five million. I'm not

925
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Speaker 3: happy about. What about you?

926
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Speaker 15: You're into the bigger drawers are yeah? Yeah, yeah, Well

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Speaker 15: well we've interviewed a number of out what is of course,

928
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Speaker 15: and people even five million people just find it's such

929
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 15: a life changing experience.

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Speaker 3: So m hmm, Jason, thank you. I appreciate it. Jason Dellamore,

931
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 3: Lotto chief executive and going to go there a this

932
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Speaker 3: is why I get to five million? Like there is

933
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Speaker 3: I know the guys that some of the guys at

934
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Speaker 3: work like a Hundi out that'll do me. Nah, you

935
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Speaker 3: need a big one. You need a five million because

936
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Speaker 3: it needs to change your lifestyle. Otherwise it's not like

937
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Speaker 3: you're not going to win lots. So it's not something

938
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Speaker 3: that happens every ten years. It's not like, oh, I'll

939
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Speaker 3: take a hundred thousand. I'll get more next time, like

940
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 3: this is your one shot at it, right, You're going

941
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: to get it once in your life, except for those

942
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Speaker 3: weird people get it twice. But you're going to get

943
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Speaker 3: it once. So you want it to be meaningful. So

944
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Speaker 3: you need enough money to buy a house and a

945
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Speaker 3: batch and a car, like cover those things off and

946
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Speaker 3: then yes, ordered right five twenty two.

947
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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather dup cl

948
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Speaker 1: and drive with one New Zealand coverage.

949
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Speaker 2: Like no one else youth talks, they'd be hither.

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Speaker 3: The ideal lotto prize is dependent on your stage of

951
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Speaker 3: life and circumstances. My ideal would be one million each

952
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 3: for my adult children and one million for me. I

953
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 3: love parents are so kind to their adult children, aren't

954
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 3: they giving them that much money? Five twenty five. Now

955
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 3: I need to draw your attention to something that I

956
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 3: don't think got enough attention last week, which is the

957
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Speaker 3: decision by the New Plymouth District Council to halt the

958
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Speaker 3: signing of what appears to be a consultancy agreement with

959
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Speaker 3: the local Hupoo. The details of this agreement haven't been

960
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 3: made public, but it sounds like the council was going

961
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Speaker 3: to pay the Pukapu Hapoo around one million dollars for

962
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Speaker 3: work that included the Huppoo's input and involvement in the

963
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 3: new thirty nine million dollar coastal walkway extension that they're building. Now,

964
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Speaker 3: you do the sums right. One million dollars consultancy fee

965
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 3: on a thirty nine million dollar project is not bad

966
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Speaker 3: going if you can get that kind of work. I'd

967
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Speaker 3: love to know what that work entails, because I'm filling

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Speaker 3: in the blanks in my head and I think you

969
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 3: might be two. They nearly got this work, this Harpoo,

970
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Speaker 3: but then they didn't because the council stopped it and

971
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Speaker 3: said they needed to review it before signing it for

972
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Speaker 3: various reasons, including how much it was going to cost

973
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Speaker 3: the council. The Harpoo, as you can imagine, is not happy.

974
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Speaker 3: They screaming blue murder have done for a number of days. Now.

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Speaker 3: They're calling it an attack on their mona. They're complaining

976
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Speaker 3: that no one called them. They just got a one

977
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Speaker 3: paragraph email. Business can be brutal. This is how it works.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 3: Why I think this should have been given more attention

980
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 3: last week is because This kind of thing takes courage.

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Speaker 3: Councils up and down this country spend huge amounts of

982
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Speaker 3: money on consultants, huge amounts. It's not easy for a

983
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Speaker 3: mayor and a chief executive to pump the brakes on

984
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Speaker 3: an agreement like this, but especially when it's with a

985
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 3: Hapoo or EWI, because they will inevitably be accused of

986
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 3: racism or, in the more modern form of the same attack,

987
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 3: accused of not honoring the treaty. They do have a

988
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 3: more immediate duty, though, which is to safeguard the council's

989
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 3: finances and consider the impact on ratepayers of shelling out

990
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Speaker 3: this much money for what we're yet to be told.

991
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Speaker 3: So good on them for making a tough call, and

992
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Speaker 3: here's hoping more councils do exactly the same.

993
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Speaker 2: Heather Duplicy Ellen right the website.

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Speaker 3: I need to tell you about this. Okay, actually I

995
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: don't have time to tell you about this. It's new

996
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 3: Go have a look because it's the news down You

997
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 3: might have a minute. Just quickly type it into your

998
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: phone or whatever. New Zealand oil watch dot com. And

999
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 3: when I get a chancelater on, I'm gonna you can't.

1000
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 3: I'm going to run you through what that is, what

1001
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 3: that tells you about our fuel supply, why it's interesting,

1002
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 3: So stand by for that. Heather Brook van Velden won't

1003
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 3: reach Winston's current age until twenty seven seventy three. Twenty

1004
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 3: seventy three, long time for a comeback.

1005
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 25: News Next, the day's newspakers talk to Heather First, Heather

1006
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 25: Duplicy Ellen drive with One New Zealand and the power

1007
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 25: of satellite mobile news Doorg said, be sunny.

1008
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 3: So I'm going to give you the details on inst

1009
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 3: oil watch in a minute just before six o'clock. And

1010
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 3: this is something if you didn't catchure us saying earlier,

1011
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 3: you've got to watch us if you're interested in how

1012
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 3: much fuels coming into the country. Also, the zombie tanks

1013
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 3: are an interesting thing. I have to tell you about.

1014
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 3: Huddle standing by, and Cameron Baggery, who was in the

1015
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: Reserve Bank Governor's speech, is with us after six to

1016
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: give us his take on what he thought of what

1017
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 3: she had to say. Twenty four away from six, Donald

1018
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 3: Trump has announced he's going to pull strikes on Iranian

1019
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 3: power plants for five days, saying peace talks are progressing well.

1020
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 3: Iran claims there are no peace talks now. Doctor Matthew

1021
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: Schmidt is an international relations expert and used to teach

1022
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 3: strategic planning at the US Army's School of Advanced Military Studies.

1023
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 3: High Matthew, Hi, right here, good to talk to you.

1024
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 3: Who do we believe Trump that there are no people

1025
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: that there are peace talks or Tehran that there are

1026
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 3: no peace talks.

1027
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 17: I think this is a process question. I think that

1028
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 17: there have been people who have been talking about calm

1029
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 17: and the the war, but it hasn't been Trump directly,

1030
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 17: you know, or the new Iotola directly. It's been cutouts

1031
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 17: in between. And Trump is exaggerating what's going on and

1032
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 17: making it sound like it was more direct than it is.

1033
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:16,959
Speaker 3: And Tehran, what are they doing.

1034
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 17: They are signaling first of all, that they can embarrass

1035
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 17: the president and call him out on this, and secondly

1036
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 17: their resolve that they are in fact not in a

1037
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 17: position to move towards any kind of ceasefire right now,

1038
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 17: that they're not willing.

1039
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 3: Why has he announced this five day pause on the

1040
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 3: strikes targeting the power plants?

1041
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 17: Because he can't carry out his promise, not without a

1042
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 17: large degree of risk. And we know that Trump has

1043
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 17: been quite squeamish in the past about the risk of

1044
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 17: getting American service members killed, and so I think that's

1045
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 17: really what you're seeing right here. The options that he

1046
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Speaker 17: has on the ground are not great and there's a

1047
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 17: lot again to say the word again, there's just a

1048
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 17: lot of risk involved in them, and he is I think,

1049
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 17: squeamish about it.

1050
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 5: And what do you make of.

1051
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 3: The fact that he's done this five day pools on

1052
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 3: the power plant strikes, but then Israel has ramped up

1053
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: its bombing. What's going on there?

1054
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 17: These are two separate countries and we essentially have different

1055
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 17: goals in this operation and Israel is really I think

1056
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 17: in control and driving the tempo of the war here

1057
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 17: and from the very beginning, and the Americans we have

1058
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Speaker 17: been an instrument of the Israeli war plan, which is

1059
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 17: really something that we've been you know, connected onto more

1060
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 17: than we were driving.

1061
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 3: Now, what is he going to do with kagh.

1062
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 17: Well, that's the question. He has the option of the

1063
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 17: eighty second airborne Immediate Response for US, which is apparently

1064
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 17: heading to the region, and then the Marine Expeditionary Force

1065
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 17: that's there, so he could he could take carg if

1066
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 17: he wants to, but it would be very risky because

1067
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 17: once you have boots on the ground in a situation

1068
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 17: like that, they're exposed to a lot of things, not

1069
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 17: least of which would be simply setting carg on fire

1070
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 17: and making it a kind of healthscape to operate in,

1071
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 17: which is going to end up, you know, posing a

1072
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Speaker 17: lot of casualties.

1073
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 3: Frankly, who who would set it on fire, Mathew, because

1074
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Speaker 3: surely not the Iranians. They need it for their income.

1075
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Speaker 17: Altally, they they could set it on fire. You know,

1076
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 17: they're in a war for their and so those boundaries

1077
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 17: are kind of out the window for this regime. They

1078
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 17: have to win by not losing, and that's what they'll do.

1079
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 3: Right, How does he get the straight of whom was open?

1080
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 17: That is again a question of of probabilities in order

1081
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 17: to close the straight. Really, what's happening is is that

1082
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 17: you're you're spooking insurance markets, You're spooking Lloyd's of London,

1083
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 17: which is increasing the costs and of shipping, and so

1084
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Speaker 17: shipping is deciding not.

1085
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,479
Speaker 7: To try to risk it to pass through there.

1086
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 17: And the Iranians only have to throw a few missiles

1087
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 17: in the direction of ships. They only have to potentially

1088
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 17: hit his ship, not even sink it or sink one

1089
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Speaker 17: or SYNC two. They can do this with mines, they

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Speaker 17: can do this with unmanned boats. They can do this

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Speaker 17: with manned boats, right, they can do this with missiles.

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Speaker 17: There's a lot of tools that they can throw at

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Speaker 17: shipping in order to spook it and keep it away,

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Speaker 17: and they can hide most of those things.

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Speaker 6: They only need.

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Speaker 17: A little bit in order to in order to create

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Speaker 17: the psychological effect that's going to stop the shipping. And

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Speaker 17: in order to counter that, you have to put boots

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Speaker 17: on the ground and essentially find everything that's hiding. You

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Speaker 17: have to find all of those unmanned boats, all those

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Speaker 17: man boats, all those missile sites, all those drone sites.

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Speaker 17: And that's a big, big process for a military to undertake.

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Speaker 17: And you know, we would take casualties in the process

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Speaker 17: of doing that also, and I think that that means

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Speaker 17: that the risk level is just too high for President

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Speaker 17: Trump right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Matthew, listen, thank you so much, really appreciated. Doctor

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Speaker 3: Matthew Schmidt, international relations expert at the University of New Haven.

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Speaker 3: It's twenty away from six the.

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Speaker 1: Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty a name you

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00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: can trust locally and globally.

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Speaker 3: The huddle with us this evening we have Phil GoF

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Speaker 3: former Labor Party minister and Auklamara and of course Marris

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00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 3: Williams and Auckland councilor former National minister. Hello you too, Yeah, Phil?

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Speaker 3: What do you reckon is going on here? Is it?

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00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 3: Like Matthew suggested that there are some low level talks

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00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 3: that Trump is just pinning a lot of hope on.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 26: Frankly, we've learned from experience not to believe much of

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Speaker 26: what Donald Trump has said, you know, time and the game.

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Speaker 26: He's been proven absolutely wrong there. May I can't discount

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00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 26: that there may be low level talks, but clearly the

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Speaker 26: Iranian the people in control there aren't aren't part of

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Speaker 26: it at as a leadership group, and aren't inclined to

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Speaker 26: compromise in any way. I mean Metty was saying was

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Speaker 26: really interesting. This is a war with no plan, no

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00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 26: understanding of history. It's a war that's got big costs

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Speaker 26: and we yet to see any any benefits, only the costs.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Does it sound to you, Morris like he is trying

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00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 3: to get out of this. He's looking for a way

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Speaker 3: to get out of it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but surely this is just one simple question the

1134
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 8: media could just put straight to him, who are you

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00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 8: talking to? Because he keeps saying we're having talks, and

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00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 8: as you say, it could be the guy that runs

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00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 8: the burger bar downtown Tehran? Who are you talking to?

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00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 8: But he won't say. Well, if he won't say my viewers,

1139
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 8: that means he's not actually talking to anybody of any significance.

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Speaker 3: So what happens after five days there? Morris? Does he

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00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 3: just strike or does he not start?

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Speaker 8: Well, he's extend the deadline. If you follow Trump every

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00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 8: announcement he has ever made. Changes Again, there's a fifty

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Speaker 8: five percent tariff next week. No, it's now twelve, Now

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00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 8: seventy five, No, it's ten. You've just got to keep up.

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Speaker 8: I mean the markets that have never had so much

1147
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 8: exercise doing U turns as their big exos. So, I mean,

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00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 8: the five days will come, remember we go. If we

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00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 8: don't have it by Tuesday, we've got twenty forty eight

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00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 8: hours bomb. Okay, we've had some chats with somebody who

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00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 8: don't know it's just insanity, in.

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Speaker 3: Which case Field we could probably mark this as the

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Speaker 3: start of the wind down.

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Speaker 26: Can't we Well, he would like to get out of

1155
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 26: it a bit like Bush did in Iraq and say

1156
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 26: mission accomplished, but nobody'd believe him. You know, everybody can

1157
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 26: see that because of asymmetrical warfare. You know, a small country,

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00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 26: a smaller country like a racket. It's not small. It's

1159
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 26: ninety million people can hold off the world's greatest power,

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Speaker 26: even though you know it's been blasted to bits. But

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Speaker 26: it's hard to see anything positive coming. He's so bloody,

1162
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Speaker 26: volatile and unstable. He could bombit or he could not.

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Speaker 26: But you won't know until it actually happened. He probably

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Speaker 26: won't know until the day the day that it happens.

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Speaker 5: I mean Mars.

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Speaker 8: But if you've ever heard of a breash of diplomacy

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Speaker 8: sitting in front of the Japanese Prime Minister and sudden, oh, yeah,

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00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 8: the best he's been secrets and then he says, you

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00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 8: never told me about Pearl Harbor. Well she could have

1170
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 8: basically said yeah, because you weren't even born when Pearl

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00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 8: Harbor just a small detail, a small We could have

1172
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 8: gone up to the maternity hospital four years later and said,

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00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,919
Speaker 8: where's that little baby? Trumb will tell him.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you never.

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Speaker 8: Told He didn't even say you didn't tell us, He said,

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Speaker 8: you didn't tell me.

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Speaker 26: But the bizarre thing is he didn't tell anybody about

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Speaker 26: his war, but then suddenly he expects everybody to come

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Speaker 26: to his aid when he when he hits the roadblock.

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Speaker 3: Listen, phil Ken, he though, I mean without regime change,

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00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 3: nothing has been accomplished, right, because unless you have regime change,

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Speaker 3: it just goes back to the way it.

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Speaker 26: Was well worse actually, because you know, the guy whose father,

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Speaker 26: wife and kids were killed in it, who's now the

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00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 26: Supreme Leader, isn't going to be more flexible, more tolerant,

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00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 26: more looking for a compromise than his father was. I mean,

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Speaker 26: if anything, then e regime will be worse, more embittered,

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Speaker 26: more likely to launch terrorists strikes you.

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Speaker 4: Know, around the world.

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Speaker 26: So it's gone backwards on it.

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Speaker 8: The Supreme Leader. Is he the Supreme Leader because they

1192
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 8: haven't seen them and no one knows.

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Speaker 26: We don't know what injuryes he's sustained. But no, no,

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00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 26: we all presume they didn't elect the dead man. But

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00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 26: you know everything we know about the Sun. I mean

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Speaker 26: he's a bit like Trump. Actually, he's probably been making

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Speaker 26: money out of his father's corrupt regime, just as the

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00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 26: Trump kids are making money out of Trumps. It's a

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Speaker 26: ship world we're living in at the moment if you

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Speaker 26: look at it.

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Speaker 3: Hey, But on the other hand, we can always look

1202
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 3: at the fact that we live in New Zealand. Therefore

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Speaker 3: we're lucky. We'll come back talk about the government's fuel

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Speaker 3: package next quarter two.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the only

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Speaker 1: truly global brand.

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Speaker 3: Right, you're back with the Huddle, Morris Williamson, Phil Goff

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Speaker 3: now Morrison. Morris has been a fair bit of complaining

1209
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,479
Speaker 3: today from people who miss out on the government's fuel

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00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 3: cost assistance, pensioners, beneficiaries, people who use diesel and so on.

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Speaker 3: Do you like it?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 8: I do. I like the idea that we're specifically targeting

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00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 8: people that are in work and they've got children. They're

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00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 8: the ones who will really forgot they've go to If

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00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 8: you're a beneficiary and not really going to work, are you,

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00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 8: that's by definition you're not at work. I just I

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00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 8: really like it because the idea of throwing around like

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00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 8: what was it a drunken sailor running up debt, having

1220
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 8: that headache for the next five years to have to

1221
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 8: try and deal with. I think it's been well targeted,

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00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 8: well focused on us for a specific time, and we're

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Speaker 8: just going to keep watching whether the petrol pumps drop

1224
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 8: below three dollars. What is it?

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Speaker 2: Was it four weeks?

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00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 3: Four weeks promstently? Yeah, basically, Phil, What are you think

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00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 3: for it consistently?

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Speaker 26: Yeah? Look, it's good for the one hundred and forty

1229
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 26: thousand that get it. The fifty dollars will will just

1230
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 26: about cover the increase in petrol costs, depending on the

1231
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 26: circumstances of each family. But you know, against one hundred

1232
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 26: and forty thousand families that get it, there's nine hundred

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Speaker 26: and forty thousand peeople on National super Now they're not

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Speaker 26: going to work here, that's fair enough, but they are

1235
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Speaker 26: facing all the other costs, such as the increase in

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Speaker 26: food costs, you know, four point five I think in

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Speaker 26: the end of February, So they won't feel too happy

1238
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 26: about it, Nor the four hundred thousand people that are

1239
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 26: on benefits. You know, if you're a soul parent with

1240
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Speaker 26: a child, you're getting thirty thousand a year, you know,

1241
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 26: it's going to be pretty tough for you having to

1242
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Speaker 26: meet the extra costs that you're facing, not only from

1243
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 26: fuel but the rise and inflation generally. So you can

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01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 26: imagine that well one hundred and forty thousand will think

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Speaker 26: that that might just cover the petrol. There's a whole

1246
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Speaker 26: lot of other people out there that won't feel quite

1247
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Speaker 26: as happy about it.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 26: Nikola Willis is between a rock and a hard place.

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Speaker 26: She's just had New Zealand downgraded by Fitch to a

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01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 26: negative watch because the economy is going badly. She doesn't

1252
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 26: have money to splash on it. She had to target it,

1253
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 26: but it won't make people happy that are in probably

1254
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 26: greater need than some of those that get it, that

1255
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 26: won't be getting any thing at all.

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Speaker 3: Threading the needle either.

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Speaker 8: Why I think slightly differently to I think differently that

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Speaker 8: because both super annual which I am a super inuit,

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Speaker 8: and on benefits will all get quite a big increase

1260
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Speaker 8: coming up on the thirty first of March. They are

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Speaker 8: all I think, you know cpi'd or in fact they're

1262
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Speaker 8: actually wage based in terms of superannuation lift. So there

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01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 8: will be a lift for superinuitants and there will be

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01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 8: a lift for beneficiaries coming almost at the same time

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Speaker 8: as this will happen. But I just think you've got

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Speaker 8: to really really target it at the people that it matters,

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Speaker 8: and I believe it's those that are in work, having

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01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 8: to get up every day and go to work and

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Speaker 8: have got kids to look after, and that I think

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Speaker 8: they get, you know, quite generous wage allowances. If they've

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Speaker 8: got to say three kids, I think it goes up

1272
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 8: to about one hundred and twenty or thirty thousand dollars

1273
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 8: they can earn. So I think it's really well targeted.

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Speaker 3: I like it now, feel you did you bristle a

1275
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 3: bit when you heard Brooke van Velden say she was

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01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 3: the youngest cabinet minister in history.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, I had that discussion with her when she came

1278
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 26: through London and we both agree that I pipped it

1279
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 26: to the post on you today, did she? I? Look,

1280
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 26: that's not a big deal to me. I just turned

1281
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 26: thirty one when I became a cabinet minister. Looking back

1282
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 26: on it was pretty young. But you know, when you're

1283
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 26: thirty one, you think you know a whole lot more

1284
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,919
Speaker 26: than somebody that's fifty one. So you know what I lacked.

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Speaker 26: What I lacked the knowledge and experience I made up

1286
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 26: with confidence and energy. But yeah, yeah, no, that's well.

1287
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Speaker 3: For the record, you beat her by eight days. The

1288
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 3: problem is Winston took too long. Now, Morris, I've been

1289
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 3: dying to talk to you about this, Okay, So I

1290
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 3: raised this yesterday on the show. Ken Turner. Ken Turner

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Speaker 3: from Auckland Council has used AI and it's only cost

1292
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 3: five thousand dollars to crunch the feedback the consultation on

1293
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 3: the PC twenty one, the density stuff. Is he onto

1294
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 3: something he has? Has he proved something?

1295
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 8: Look, I think God put it to him and I

1297
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 8: think using modern techniques and tools is fantastic because there

1298
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Speaker 8: are ten and a half thousand very detailed submission that's up,

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Speaker 8: very big number. Council tell us that we're only what

1300
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Speaker 8: did they say, They're thirty three percent through processing them

1301
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Speaker 8: and it's already cost US four million dollars analysts.

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Speaker 3: Five people doing it. But is he getting enough data?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: Is he getting enough insight out of the data just

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Speaker 3: using the AI?

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Speaker 8: Yeah? Look the way the AI way AI has worked,

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Speaker 8: it's broken down all submissions into various categories. Given your

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Speaker 8: headline stuff like sixty four percent of people oppose what

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Speaker 8: PC one twenty is proposing Yeah, twenty eight percent say

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Speaker 8: you should amend it and five point eight percent only

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Speaker 8: six hundred and fourteen support it. But then it goes

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Speaker 8: into various themes about supporting character and amenity stuff or

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Speaker 8: density too high or infrastructure capacity not enough. So it's

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Speaker 8: actually a phenomenal tool. I think it's something that in

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Speaker 8: the future we'll have to use a lot more role

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Speaker 8: because when you get ten and a half thousand and

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Speaker 8: we could do.

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Speaker 3: It, Morris, we don't need it in the future. We

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Speaker 3: can do it right now. If he's getting some value

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Speaker 3: at at five thousand dollars versus what's going to be

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Speaker 3: thirteen million, I'll take that any day. Lads, it's great

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Speaker 3: to talk to you. Thank you. We've settled at ken

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Speaker 3: Turners onto something we can fire the public servants now,

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Speaker 3: like at least a third of them. We've got the Ai, Morris,

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Speaker 3: Williams and fill GoF our huddle. Seven away from.

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Speaker 1: Six it's the Heather Duper Cell and Drive Full Show

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Speaker 1: podcast on my Art Radio powered by Newstalk ZBI.

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Speaker 3: Right, I'm going to get you some of the texts

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Speaker 3: and just to tickets. Five away from six, So this

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Speaker 3: is the website. I recommend if you're interested in our

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Speaker 3: fuel supply nzoilwatch dot com, so have a look at that.

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Speaker 3: What it's got is it's basically got a countdown for

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Speaker 3: how long we run out of fuel on current consumption rates.

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Speaker 3: It's thirty five days for US, it's twenty three days

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Speaker 3: for Australia. Because there's a toggle where you can switch

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Speaker 3: between the two and you can compare our situations. So

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Speaker 3: we are definitely i mean thirty five days for US

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Speaker 3: twenty three days for Australia. We're definitely in a better position.

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Speaker 3: And by the way it's counting, it is counting it

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Speaker 3: down by the minutes and the seconds as well, so

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Speaker 3: if you really want to freak yourself out, you can

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Speaker 3: go for it. Our most critical fuel apparently is diesel.

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Speaker 3: Australia's most critical fuel is jet fuel. You can also

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Speaker 3: I mean, the thing is just overloaded with information, so

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Speaker 3: it's just for for if you're just into the basic stuff,

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Speaker 3: it'll give you the basis stuff. If you're one of

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Speaker 3: those data nerds, there's heaps in there for you as well.

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Speaker 3: You can also see where the ships are coming from

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Speaker 3: as they are en route to New Zealand, so there's

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Speaker 3: one one petrol tankers that's on route about six days away.

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Speaker 3: You've got a jet fuel tank of three days away.

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Speaker 3: We've got a tanky that's already already here. You can

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Speaker 3: see the projected supply under different rationing scenarios. So the

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Speaker 3: worst case for us, like we're never gonna get that right,

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Speaker 3: but the worst cases we go full lockdown and that

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Speaker 3: gives us ten extra days of supply and so on

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Speaker 3: and so on. Anyway, so go have a look at that.

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Speaker 3: That's New Zealand oil watch dot com.

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Speaker 27: So it's like the John Hopkins University COVID cases world made.

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Speaker 3: It is, like, don't it is? It's like COVID all

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Speaker 3: over again. Ah, I don't. I'm not emotionally there. I'm

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Speaker 3: just not like I Honestly, when Sam told me today,

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Speaker 3: he's like, oh, going into full lockdown gives us ten

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Speaker 3: days extra, I was like, no, I don't mind. I'll

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Speaker 3: go ten days without fuel. I don't want to go

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Speaker 3: into lockdown. That's how I think it's burned us forever.

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Speaker 3: Hither I'm a disabled person who lives alone and works,

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Speaker 3: I get nothing. Hither I make one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars a year. I have six kids. I'm not

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Speaker 3: entitled to working for families. I'm not entitled to anything hither.

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Speaker 3: He can shut up by the must probably feel because

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Speaker 3: I always feel my wife and both were both of

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Speaker 3: us work. We have a child, Our mortgages going up,

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Speaker 3: our groceries are going up. We don't get this fifty

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Speaker 3: dollars a week. Heither one hundred and forty thousand people

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Speaker 3: out of almost six million people who live in this country.

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Speaker 3: That's bs'.

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: No one's happy about what the government's done by the

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Speaker 3: looks of things, right. Listen. Next up Cameron Bagriy on

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Speaker 3: the new Reserve Bank governor's speech, News Talks.

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Speaker 4: He'd been.

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Speaker 1: What's up, what's down? What were the major calls and

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Speaker 1: how will it affect the economy? The big business questions

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Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with the Heather Duplicy, Allen and

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Speaker 1: Mass Insurance and Investments, Your Futures.

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Speaker 2: It has Ustorf zib.

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Speaker 3: Good Evening coming up in the next hour. There's a

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Speaker 3: warning that we might have flights canceled to New Zealand

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Speaker 3: based on what happens with jetful fuel. We're going to

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Speaker 3: speak to the Board of Airlines representatives after six thirty,

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Speaker 3: Jamie McKay is going to run us through what's happening

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Speaker 3: with Molesworth's station, and then of course Endebrady is with

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Speaker 3: us out of the UK at seven past six now.

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Speaker 3: The Reserve Bank Governor Anna Bremen has taken a dubvish

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Speaker 3: tone in her speech to Business New Zealand today. She

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Speaker 3: spoke about the war in Iran and it's likely impact

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Speaker 3: on inflation, and she says and immediate ocr hiker is unlikely,

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Speaker 3: but things may change if the war continues.

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Speaker 28: I will not rule out neither rate takes nor rate cuts.

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Speaker 28: If we see that these higher fuel prices are transmitted

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Speaker 28: into higher inflationary precious overall in the economy, then we

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Speaker 28: would react with monetary policy.

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Speaker 3: Cameron Baggery is the founder of Baggery Economics and is

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Speaker 3: with us High Camp, Good Evening. So basically she's going

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Speaker 3: to look through the short term stuff. Do you like

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Speaker 3: this approach?

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Speaker 29: Yeah, well it's central banking one. I want you know

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Speaker 29: what we know from history that we've seen numerous occasions

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Speaker 29: in the past twenty years, or if you go back

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Speaker 29: to the ninety seventies where oil prices go up that

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Speaker 29: jams up headline inflation. But odds oil prices go up,

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Speaker 29: they come crashing back down about you six to twelve

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Speaker 29: months later. So your central banks will rightly looked through

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Speaker 29: the first rand impact of higher inflation, but they'll be

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Speaker 29: ready alert, as you pointed out, to the second round effects.

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Speaker 29: If we start to see the second round effects, and

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Speaker 29: that's the time you got to lean against it by

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Speaker 29: lifting interest rates.

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Speaker 3: All right, so what are you picking for April eight?

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Speaker 29: No change, No, I think the next inflation read will

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Speaker 29: be critical. We start to see a little bit of

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Speaker 29: an underlying pick up and inflation in the December quarter,

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Speaker 29: the Reserve Bank won't have wanted that to extend, so

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Speaker 29: we'll be looking at the non oil, non petrol components.

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Speaker 29: But the big viewer we've got to be watching out

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Speaker 29: for is just thing called inflation expectations. The inflation expectations

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Speaker 29: are a sign of a central bank's credibility.

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Speaker 6: If you've got a target of.

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Speaker 29: Two for inflation, you sort of want inflation expectations to

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Speaker 29: be anchored around two. Now they're sitting at the moment

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Speaker 29: around two point three. So two point three is pretty

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Speaker 29: close to sort of two. Yeah, close enough is good enough.

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Speaker 29: But if we start to see those drift up to

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Speaker 29: two point five, two point six.

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Speaker 6: Something like that.

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Speaker 29: That's telling us that the central banks credibility has been

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Speaker 29: tested and new governor particular, we're not like that. So

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Speaker 29: there's a whole numbers we're going to be looking at,

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Speaker 29: including the impact on growth because I guess what, you

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Speaker 29: jam up oil prices, you can't spend as much on

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Speaker 29: other parts of the economy, so you've got an inflationary

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Speaker 29: shock and a deflationy shock on the other hand too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now I'm conscious it's only six days since we

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Speaker 3: last spoke to you, and when we spoke to you

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Speaker 3: last it was too hard basically put any number on

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Speaker 3: what we should expect inflation wise. Has the last six

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Speaker 3: days clarified that for.

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Speaker 2: You, Well, we've still seen Gendle nomics.

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Speaker 29: Now you just have a look at what we've seen

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Speaker 29: out of Donald Trump overnight. Yeah, he thinks that him

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Speaker 29: and Iran a getting close to a deal, and Iran's

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Speaker 29: fired back and said that's all fake. Use So, but

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Speaker 29: equity markets took it pretty positively overnight. More prices were

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Speaker 29: back down. We hope we're pretty close to some sort

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Speaker 29: of resolution, but if someone decides to sort of dig

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Speaker 29: in This could be a bit more of a long

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Speaker 29: drawn out affair, and the length of time here increases

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Speaker 29: exponentially the collateral damage on your economy and the rest

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Speaker 29: of the profile for inflation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, listen, Cam, thank you as always. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: we'll speak to you again soon. That's Cameron Baggery, the

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Speaker 3: founder of Bagery Economy Economics ten par six yeither. Don't

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Speaker 3: you think this is Labour's big chance to win the election?

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Speaker 3: If they got rid of Hopkins and ruled out working

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Speaker 3: with the Maori Party and came out with three strong

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Speaker 3: policies targeted at working families, they would be seen as

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Speaker 3: a credible government in waiting. The Coalition is going to

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Speaker 3: stay in government by default otherwise there is a chance,

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Speaker 3: and look to be honest, the longer that this goes on,

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Speaker 3: the greater it actually increases. It does increase their chances,

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Speaker 3: mainly because what you're seeing right now is exactly what

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Speaker 3: I would have predicted predicted would have happened, although probably

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Speaker 3: more than I would have predicted. Complaining right, So, the

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Speaker 3: government's just announced that it's going to help one hundred

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Speaker 3: and forty working families to be able to pay for

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Speaker 3: their fuel. But what it's actually done. Is it has

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Speaker 3: pissed off many many more people, right, multiples of one

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Speaker 3: hundred and forty thousand, because there are more pensioners than that.

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Speaker 3: They're all grumpy now, aren't they, because they're not getting that.

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Speaker 3: And then the bennies are grumpy because they're not getting that.

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Speaker 3: And then you've got the people who are on the

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Speaker 3: thirty nine percent tax bracket who are grumpy because they

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Speaker 3: are now funding this and they're not getting anything. And

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Speaker 3: so it's actually, in a way, doing the right thing

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Speaker 3: may have caused more unhappiness than happiness. And certainly the

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Speaker 3: one hundred and forty thousand people who got it are

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Speaker 3: not going to vote for the coalition government because they

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Speaker 3: got it, because there's no such thing as a gratitude vote.

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Speaker 3: No one goes, oh you did a good thing for me, cool,

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Speaker 3: I love it, I'm grateful, I'm good. People only vote

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Speaker 3: for things that they think are going to happen. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think it gives you labor a chance. Labour's got

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Speaker 3: a lot of there's a lot of obstacles though. Hapkins

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Speaker 3: is an obstacle because Auckland's still like ooh you put

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Speaker 3: us in lockdown, grows and then there's the Mahdi Party,

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Speaker 3: which is massive obstacle. But don't discount the Greens massive

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Speaker 3: obstacle as well, because they're all wealth, taxi and stuff.

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Speaker 3: I think the key lies with New Zealand First. New

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Speaker 3: Zealand First is going to win the election, not by

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Speaker 3: being the biggest party, but probably by being the party

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Speaker 3: that can go with the left all the right. So

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Speaker 3: it's really up to who Uncle Winston chooses. Again, isn't

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Speaker 3: that fun time? Don't we love that? Don't we love that?

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01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 3: Don't we love it when we have one of those

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Speaker 3: elections where we go, Uncle Winston, can you choose for

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Speaker 3: us who you want to put into government? Because it

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Speaker 3: was great last time you chose just under that's where

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Speaker 3: we're going. We'll see, we'll see. Shall I make it

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Speaker 3: an official prediction? And because my predictions in this quarter

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Speaker 3: of this year have been so my official prediction on

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Speaker 3: the twenty fourth of March is that Winston's going to

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Speaker 3: be in a king maker position. So let's see what

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Speaker 3: happens on the eighth of November, the day after the election.

1515
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 3: Now I need to tell you about the zombie tankers.

1516
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 3: So we've got reports that there are at least two

1517
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:45,640
Speaker 3: zombie tankers that have crossed through have gone through the

1518
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 3: Strait of Homers. One happened yesterday the old other one

1519
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 3: came through at the weekend. Now, zombie tankers are tankers,

1520
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 3: they are real tankers, but the name that they are

1521
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 3: suggested what they say they are is not what they are.

1522
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 3: They are using old boats identify as old boat's names.

1523
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 3: So the one that came through yesterday was calling itself

1524
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 3: the Nabin Trouble, as the Nabein was sent to the

1525
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 3: wrecking yards in Bangladesh five years ago, and the one

1526
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 3: that came through of the weekend was the Jamal Trouble

1527
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 3: as the Jamal was recorded beached at an Indian demolition

1528
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 3: yard last year. And why they're doing this, Obviously it's

1529
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 3: turning off their real tracking because they're hiding where the

1530
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 3: oil is being loaded and they're disguising where they're taking

1531
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 3: it to to sell it. Thirteen past six.

1532
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Speaker 1: It's the Heather duper Cy Allen Drive Full Show podcast

1533
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,719
Speaker 1: on my Heart Radio powered by news dog Zebbi.

1534
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 3: Heather, you're guessing, not predicting. Well, a prediction is just

1535
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 3: an informed guess, isn't it. I'd like to think I'm informed. Otherwise,

1536
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 3: what the hell? What the hell am I here for?

1537
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 3: Sixteen Poust six Heather du for se Ellen Jamie McKay,

1538
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 3: Host of the Countries with are Sello Jamie.

1539
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 5: Hello, Yeah, well I'm having an informed opinion guest guests

1540
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 5: about once to months to be prime minister. That's my

1541
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 5: latest theory.

1542
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 4: Man.

1543
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 3: Only he can only extract, Jamie if he is in

1544
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 3: the king maker position, because it's quite a ballsy like.

1545
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 3: No one's done that right, No one's given the prime

1546
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 3: ministership to a smaller party. So in order for him

1547
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 3: to be able to extract that, he has to have

1548
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 3: absolute leveraging. You only have absolute leverage if you can

1549
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 3: put in place either label or national.

1550
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,640
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised if he finds himself in that

1551
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 5: position on election night.

1552
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 6: We'll see what happens in that.

1553
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 3: No, that's fine, I've made that prediction. You've made that prediction.

1554
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 3: Now we're in this together. Now, what's going on. What's

1555
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:28,440
Speaker 3: going on with Molesworth?

1556
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 5: Well, Molesworth is New Zealand's biggest farm. It's owned by

1557
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,759
Speaker 5: the government or overseen by DOC one hundred and eighty

1558
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 5: two thousand hectares. That's like an old school money. Four

1559
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty thousand plus acres, huge farm and wonderful

1560
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 5: piece of conservation land. A lot of New Zealanders take

1561
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 5: four wheel drives tours through it. It's absolutely a magnificent country.

1562
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 5: So the supporters have a proposal of to make New

1563
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 5: Zealand's biggest farm, Molesworth for the nation. So that means

1564
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,839
Speaker 5: that means former. Sorry, there's just some noise in the background.

1565
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:08,879
Speaker 5: I've got a rid of it now I can concentrate

1566
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,600
Speaker 5: on the job at hand. Sorry about that, Heather So

1567
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 5: former Molesworth station manager Jim Ward, whose father Ron has

1568
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 5: the distinction of playing Test rugby for the All Blacks

1569
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 5: as a forward and a back. He's spareheading a proposal

1570
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 5: to run a charitable trust and they're going to run

1571
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 5: this as a self funding farming operation. And he says

1572
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 5: interest in the proposal has been growing strongly within both

1573
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:35,679
Speaker 5: the farming and broader business communities. Now the existing lease

1574
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 5: between Doc and Palmu are running it at the moment

1575
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 5: expires on June the thirtieth. We understand that Palmu is

1576
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 5: not one of the five parties who have made an

1577
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 5: expression of interest in this, so I'm not quite sure

1578
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 5: who the other four are. They may be commercial operations,

1579
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 5: they may be community good or industry good bodies. I

1580
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 5: have no idea what the hell's going on there, but

1581
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 5: they need to fund this. So they've got seven million

1582
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 5: dollars worth of livestock on the property, including a herd

1583
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 5: of three thousand breeding cows. They're like gold at the moment,

1584
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 5: so they're hoping some wealthy individual may be prompted to

1585
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 5: contribute to stocking the operation. Jim Ward also has a

1586
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 5: high profile New Zealander in mind to be patron for Molesworth,

1587
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 5: and then he's hoping to put some smart minds together

1588
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 5: on how to formulate a viable commercial model within the

1589
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 5: not for profit structure. This could include freeing up funds

1590
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 5: currently committed through rates to things like road maintenance, something

1591
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 5: the station also pays itself to keep it sixty five

1592
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 5: kilometers of road open for the public six months a year.

1593
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 5: So Doc expects to announce a preferred operator at.

1594
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 2: The end of the end of May.

1595
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 5: I really hope it's Jim Ward, former manager who had

1596
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 5: a bit of a perhaps unpleasant or unsavory parting of

1597
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 5: the ways with Pamu. He hoped Hopefully he can stitch

1598
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 5: this together and we can have Heather a station for

1599
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 5: the nation.

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01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 3: Now, how do you play as a forward and a

1601
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 3: back for the All Blacks?

1602
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 5: Well, he's a Southlander. He played pre war, so he

1603
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 5: played I think in nineteen thirty seven, and he played

1604
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:21,480
Speaker 5: in those days. Of course there were no injury replacements.

1605
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 5: So he was a loose forward, a very very good one,

1606
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 5: a very gnarly, gnarly bloke. He used to terrorize us

1607
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 5: on the sideline of the firse fifteen at Saint Peter's

1608
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 5: College and God, Jim Ward and I were in that

1609
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:35,719
Speaker 5: team and he didn't like me because I was around

1610
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 5: the corner kicker. He only liked toe hackers. But an

1611
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 5: answer to your question, Heather, long winded answer, there was

1612
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:42,759
Speaker 5: an injury.

1613
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:43,839
Speaker 6: He was a loose forward.

1614
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 5: They had no one else. They shoved him out on

1615
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 5: the wing and he played very well out there as well.

1616
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 5: So one of the few All Blacks to have played

1617
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 5: Test match rugby as a ford in a back, and

1618
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 5: he was a tough old bugger. I'm sure Jim wouldn't

1619
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:57,560
Speaker 5: mind me saying that.

1620
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 3: That's impressive, man, Hey, Jamie, thank you. Was all there's

1621
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 3: always a nugget of gold in there somewhere with you,

1622
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 3: Jamie McKay, Host to the Country. Now the Northern Club,

1623
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 3: Gee wiz, you can't. You can't accuse the Northern Club

1624
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 3: of not having standards, can you? So the Northern Club

1625
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 3: appears to have banned Judge Emma Aiken and all her

1626
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 3: mates who allegedly disrupted Winston Peters's event, remember that that

1627
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 3: big thing. Apparently they're keeping them out forever now. They

1628
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 3: sent out a newsletter this is the Northern Club at

1629
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 3: the weekend. They said those involved in this incident were

1630
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 3: not members of the club. Steps were taken by the

1631
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 3: committee at the time to ensure that they do not

1632
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 3: enter the club again. This type of behavior is unacceptable

1633
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 3: within our clubhouse, especially towards our staff. And they've also

1634
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 3: asked which and fair enough, they've also asked all the

1635
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 3: members if the media calls them up, just to say

1636
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 3: no comment and refer them back to the club. But wow,

1637
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 3: I mean maybe if the Northern Club tell you what,

1638
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 3: if the Northern Club it has any spare time, the

1639
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 3: people running the Northern clubs any spare time, they we

1640
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 3: could probably co opt them just for a little bit.

1641
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 3: As some of our district judges just to deal with

1642
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 3: the gang members because I reckon they would they there'd

1643
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 3: been no mercy from them. No, you can't have your

1644
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 3: patch back six twenty two.

1645
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 1: Ever it's to do with money. It matters to you.

1646
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:16,480
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and Mas Insurance

1647
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 1: and investments, Your futures in good hands us talks, that'd

1648
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Speaker 1: be Yeah.

1649
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 3: The Jonah Loom who played as a forward and a

1650
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 3: back for the All Blacks, I'm just like, you know what,

1651
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 3: I could just ask chatchbt but maybe can you go

1652
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 3: and check that information for me again and then send

1653
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 3: through a follow up text because I know he did

1654
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 3: players a forward and a back in his younger years,

1655
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 3: but was that also the case in the All Blacks?

1656
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 3: Thank you? Nine two nine two. Now we're gov. There

1657
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 3: is a still because you know, I'm obsessed with us, right,

1658
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with the fat Jab. So there is a

1659
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 3: story that's just hit the BBC in the last twenty

1660
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 3: four hours or so, and it's talking. It's basically laid

1661
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 3: out how India the patent has run out in India

1662
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:54,640
Speaker 3: and they're going to be having the cheap jabs and

1663
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,679
Speaker 3: blah blah, blah, which I was expecting would be happening

1664
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 3: in New Zealand shortly as well, because as patent's running

1665
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 3: out in China, we've got a text from somebody who's

1666
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 3: actually been on the show before as a bit of

1667
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 3: an expert on this, just running it. They just sent

1668
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 3: it through the like, hey have you seen this last

1669
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 3: time I spoke with her that I didn't realize this

1670
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 3: drug's patent is different by country, so it's March twenty

1671
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:17,919
Speaker 3: twenty six for generics only in India, China, and Brazil,

1672
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 3: while most other countries, including New Zealand, the patent for

1673
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 3: semi semi blue Tide will be continuing into the early

1674
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 3: twenty thirties, which I which bums me out because I thought,

1675
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 3: here we go. Don't worry, it's going to get cheap

1676
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 3: any minute now, and we're all going to be able

1677
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 3: to be on the jabs and everybody's going to be

1678
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 3: able to be a scare. That's the sound of the

1679
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 3: fat draining out of you, by the way, But unfortunately, no,

1680
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 3: we're stuck. We're stuck all being fatties for at least

1681
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 3: the next five years, six twenty six.

1682
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 1: There's no business like show business everybody was good for five.

1683
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 3: Have you seen the video of the Hollywood actor Alan

1684
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 3: Richson assaulting his neighbor. If you haven't, it is horrific.

1685
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 3: This is the guy, by the way, if you don't

1686
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 3: know who I'm talking about, this is the guy who

1687
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 3: played Jack Reacher on the Reach of TV series. So

1688
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 3: videos emerged on TMZ of him just absolutely beating the

1689
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 3: crap out of somebody on a suburban street and broad daylight,

1690
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 3: and apparently the two kids on dirt bikes watching it

1691
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 3: all are his sons. He just goes and just the

1692
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 3: sky's on his knees and he's just smashing the guy

1693
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 3: in the head. Problem for him, this is the actor

1694
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 3: Jack Reacher. He's big. He's six foot three, he has

1695
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 3: one hundred and nine cages of muscle, so it's not

1696
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 3: a good look. Sources close to him say he didn't

1697
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 3: start the fight, though, which is what every child in

1698
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 3: the history of the world has said. He was pushed

1699
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 3: off the dirt bikes he was riding with his kids.

1700
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 3: He suffered a minor finger injury. Some bruises were supposed

1701
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 3: to feel sorry for that. The other guy didn't get

1702
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 3: off so easily, though. He's released a video response to

1703
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 3: the incident, and in the video, the guy who got

1704
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 3: beaten up has scrapes all over his face. He says

1705
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 3: he intervened when Richson and his kids were riding their

1706
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:49,600
Speaker 3: motorcycles dangerously.

1707
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 30: I did push him because he was coming towards me

1708
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 30: on his bike. I think the second only got off

1709
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 30: his bike and keep the crap out of me. I've

1710
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,679
Speaker 30: had such a to shitty day to day. I don't

1711
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 30: wish the guy any malice or ill will, but we're

1712
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 30: just only people riding through neghborods like this, and I

1713
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:08,679
Speaker 30: just decided, you know, I take a stand because someone

1714
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 30: else has to.

1715
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 3: Oh, oh did you did you do what I just did?

1716
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 3: I was like, no, you shouldn't have beaten him up.

1717
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 3: But then I heard him. Then I heard him, and

1718
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 3: he's the one who went and there I had to stink.

1719
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 3: I had to take the stand because no one war.

1720
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 3: And you're always going to have that accent, aren't you.

1721
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 3: You're always going to sound like that, aren't you. Yes,

1722
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 3: you are. No, you still shouldn't beat him up. It's

1723
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 3: not okay, it's not okay. You've got to use your words.

1724
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 3: That's what we tell the four year old. We have

1725
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 3: to tell Jack Reach of that as well. Anyway, no

1726
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 3: charges have been laid dot dot dot yet we're going

1727
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 3: to talk next to Kath O'Brien of the Border Airlines

1728
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,839
Speaker 3: because apparently we are at risk of having roots canceled.

1729
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 3: Here flight's canceled. He if we don't sort out how

1730
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 3: we're going to deal with the jit fuel news trugs beat.

1731
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 1: Approaching the numbers and getting the results, it's either Duplessy

1732
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 1: Allen on the Business Hour with Man insurance.

1733
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 2: And investments, your futures in good hands. Used talks that be.

1734
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 3: That is coming. But being suggested that whoever is behind

1735
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 3: those attacks on the Jewish ambulances that we were discussing

1736
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 3: with Gavin Gray yesterday may in fact be an Iranian

1737
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:19,839
Speaker 3: terra cell. That's the kind of thing that the Iranian

1738
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 3: regime was doing right. They weren't just keeping all their

1739
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 3: murderous behavior to their own borders. And Brady will be

1740
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 3: with us out of the UK in ten minutes time now,

1741
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,959
Speaker 3: twenty four away from seven. There are warnings that overseas

1742
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 3: airlines may have to cut New Zealand as a root

1743
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,759
Speaker 3: of our jet fuel crisis worsens. The companies are worried

1744
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 3: about their planes potentially being stranded in New Zealand with

1745
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 3: not enough fuel to get home. Cath O'Brien as the

1746
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 3: executive director of the Border of Airline Representatives. Hi, Kath, Hi, Heather.

1747
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 3: Is this an US problem or is this an all

1748
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 3: over the world problem?

1749
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 6: Well?

1750
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 12: I think this isn't all over the world problem. But

1751
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 12: we can only worry about ourselves, So so a bit

1752
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 12: of both.

1753
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,799
Speaker 3: Okay, So what's the trigger that makes these airlines decide

1754
01:23:57,800 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 3: to cut certain routes.

1755
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 12: What we're looking for is to understand that should jet

1756
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 12: fuel become scarce in New Zealand, which my eyes are

1757
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 12: glued to the oil watch just as much as yours,

1758
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:13,640
Speaker 12: you know, should that happen, then we need to have

1759
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 12: a mechanism by which that fuel might be allocated or shared.

1760
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 12: And we've seen this in New Zealand before, when we

1761
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:22,679
Speaker 12: had the pipeline rupture, when we had the jet fuel

1762
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 12: limitations in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three. Airlines

1763
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 12: know that jet fuel can be limited and we need

1764
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 12: to know what will happen in this situation.

1765
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 3: So last time, tell me if I'm wrong. But last time,

1766
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 3: wasn't it that they were allowed to use up to

1767
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 3: eighty percent of their allocation.

1768
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:42,440
Speaker 12: Yeah, So what usually happens is fuel suppliers will impose

1769
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:47,759
Speaker 12: a fuel allocation event on customers when fuel becomes scarce

1770
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:49,759
Speaker 12: and they can't quite make it to the next shipment.

1771
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 12: And so we've seen that a lot before. And so

1772
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,639
Speaker 12: when that happens, the fuel supplier picks a number that

1773
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 12: stretches the available fuel out to the new ship if

1774
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 12: you like. And so you know that might happen.

1775
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 3: Right, So that sounds like there will not be there's

1776
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 3: no real risk of being stranded because as long as

1777
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 3: you've got a percentage of your allocation, you still have

1778
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:10,759
Speaker 3: something available to you, don't.

1779
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 12: You No, that's right. And even if you had your allocation,

1780
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 12: you would you would fly your aircraft back home and

1781
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 12: you might cancel a later flight. It's not a question

1782
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 12: of whether airlines we'll just sort of be stuck here. Yeah,

1783
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 12: but I think you know that there is a need

1784
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 12: to plan it as to what will happen to that

1785
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 12: air connectivity.

1786
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 3: So it is are you going public with this because

1787
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 3: you're not getting the sense that this is being actively

1788
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 3: considered and discussed in Wellington.

1789
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 12: Certainly, I have actively been discussing it in Wellington, and

1790
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 12: it's not yet clear that we have a well understood

1791
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 12: plan as to what might happen if we run a

1792
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 12: bit shorter jet fuel. And I think the chances of

1793
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:53,799
Speaker 12: running shorter jet fuel are non zero, you know, if

1794
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 12: I look at those boats, and you know, there could

1795
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 12: be a delay in a shipment, and it's reasonable to

1796
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:03,480
Speaker 12: think that that might happen, and so we should plan appropriately.

1797
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 3: Now if we do right, what is the most likely

1798
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 3: scenario If we do miss a shipment, what happens?

1799
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 12: So the likely scenario, and what has happened before, is

1800
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 12: that we might miss a shipment or not have quite

1801
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 12: enough on the water on the way to us, and

1802
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 12: the fuel suppliers will realize this first because they know

1803
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 12: how much we have and they know how much they've ordered,

1804
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,600
Speaker 12: and they will realize that there is a need to

1805
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 12: make an allocation. And usually that happens with about twelve

1806
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,839
Speaker 12: hours notice, so the fuel supplies will advise the airlines

1807
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 12: and from midnight that night the allocation is an effect. Now,

1808
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 12: usually airlines can pick up some fuel from other countries

1809
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:45,719
Speaker 12: on the way out of New Zealand to get home

1810
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 12: again if they are limited here. But in this particular

1811
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 12: strange situation. If New Zealand is limiting jet fuel, so

1812
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 12: might other nations be. And so we cannot necessarily tech

1813
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 12: stop and pick up some extra gas, such as we've

1814
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 12: done in the past to manager these situations, Elins will

1815
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 12: be left in the unfortunate circumstance of just having to

1816
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 12: cancel services instead. That is the only choice we will have.

1817
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 12: And so because of that we need we need to

1818
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 12: make a plan now to.

1819
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 3: Get through this. Okay, are you seeing any indication that

1820
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 3: there is a slowdown of supply or is it still

1821
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:20,759
Speaker 3: completely normal at the minute.

1822
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 12: At the moment, it looks like we've got sufficient supply

1823
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 12: that in the current time. And I have a close

1824
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 12: eye on the information published by MB which gives us

1825
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 12: the fuel days both on shore and on ship, and

1826
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 12: the line I'm interested in most is the orders at

1827
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 12: the very bottom, which is the orders on ship, and

1828
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 12: that only goes out to one April, that data, which

1829
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 12: is not very far away, and beyond that we have

1830
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:54,560
Speaker 12: no visibility as to watch at fuel there may or

1831
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 12: may not be on their way to New Zealand. And

1832
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 12: I think that's the point at which we need to

1833
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 12: be paying attention.

1834
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 3: Cath, it's good to talk to you. I appreciate your

1835
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 3: time very much. Kath O'Brien bord of airline Representatives, twenty

1836
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 3: away from seven.

1837
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 2: Ever du Seel.

1838
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 3: By the way, by the former Billabong executives, I don't

1839
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 3: know if you've been keeping an eye on this, but

1840
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:14,640
Speaker 3: there were a bunch of Billabong executives who wanted to

1841
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 3: buy rip Curl from km D Brands, which is the

1842
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:19,760
Speaker 3: parent company of Katmandu that has just been rejected its

1843
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:23,639
Speaker 3: full and short camd Shed said the offer basically wasn't

1844
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 3: good enough to do very much for the shareholders. Now

1845
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 3: have you heard of a band called the Shags? I

1846
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 3: just discovered the Shags, and I'm alarmed by this, not

1847
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 3: because I feel like I should have discovered them earlier,

1848
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 3: but how on earth did these people ever exist? So

1849
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 3: the Shags is a band from the nineteen How I've

1850
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 3: discovered them, I should give you The reason why I've

1851
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 3: discovered them is because I was reading the international papers

1852
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,719
Speaker 3: and they've got a documentary that's just been made about

1853
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 3: them called We Are the Shags, and it has come

1854
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 3: out and obviously getting some international exposure and whatnot. Anyway,

1855
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 3: it was a band of three sisters in the nineteen

1856
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 3: sixty sort of late nineteen sixties who actually didn't know

1857
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,639
Speaker 3: how to make music at all. And you will see

1858
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 3: what I mean by this and just a tick. But

1859
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 3: their dad, really he was very controlling kind of guy,

1860
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 3: and he was desperate for them to be a band,

1861
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 3: so he forced them to cut a record. And this

1862
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 3: record is widely considered to be one of the most

1863
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 3: awful records ever made. Here's one of the songs called

1864
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 3: my Pale foot foot. I can really sure that this

1865
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 3: is actually even a regular beat, which sounds a bit random.

1866
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 13: Listener.

1867
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:41,759
Speaker 3: Wait, here's the guitar.

1868
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 2: It's pretty bad.

1869
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 3: Wait for the singer. By the way, footpooter is their

1870
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 3: cats the tat that ran away with sound of their

1871
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 3: dad names probably what you need to save us, well,

1872
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 3: not altogether, and it's just like a thank you. Now.

1873
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 3: First of all, Hellen, God's name did he like? How

1874
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 3: did he listen to that and think this is brilliant?

1875
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 3: This girl's a talented And also were they taking the

1876
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 3: pis out of him? Because surely to God they had

1877
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 3: to be taking the pis adam. Anyway, what is weirder

1878
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 3: about this is that that sounds hideous. A bunch of

1879
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 3: really famous musicians absolutely love the Shags. So Patti Smith

1880
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 3: liked the Shags so much that she and her bandmate

1881
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 3: Lenny Kay used to call each other foot Foot, which

1882
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:46,680
Speaker 3: is the cat's name. As I just told you, and

1883
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 3: Kirk k Bain named this album that this comes from

1884
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 3: I can't remember, something about philosophy of the world or something. Anyway,

1885
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 3: he named it as one of his favorite albums of

1886
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 3: all time. And apparently his guitar solo on Come as

1887
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:00,160
Speaker 3: You Are has echoes of the Shags in it, and

1888
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 3: apparently without realizing it, they were doing all of these

1889
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 3: crazy interlocking things that now people are loving like mad.

1890
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 3: Here is an element of it. Do you know what?

1891
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 3: This does go some way to explaining Sonic Youth, though,

1892
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:20,639
Speaker 3: don't you think, Because if you listen to Sonic Youth,

1893
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 3: Sonic Youth is like a less bad version of this.

1894
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 3: And I always wondered, like, how are you what? Why

1895
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 3: did you people put out this awful music and call

1896
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 3: yourself sonic Youth because I obviously listened to this and

1897
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:32,599
Speaker 3: this was inspo for them. Anyway, There you go learn

1898
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 3: something new every day.

1899
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro or just plain economics. It's all

1900
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 1: on the business hour with the head and dup cl

1901
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:49,559
Speaker 1: and MADS insurance and investments. Your futures in good hands.

1902
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 3: Us talks V whither the Shags can actually recreate their music?

1903
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 3: So it's not random believe it or not? That is

1904
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 3: actually do you know what that It's hard enough to

1905
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 3: believe that they put that out, but then it is

1906
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 3: even harder to believe that they can recreate it. But

1907
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:06,719
Speaker 3: you know, the world never snivsisis to amaze? Does it?

1908
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,560
Speaker 3: Thirteen away from seven and into brady are UK correspondence

1909
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:10,640
Speaker 3: with us elo Inda.

1910
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 16: Hey have our great speak to again?

1911
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 8: Right?

1912
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 3: So what do you make of the theory that the

1913
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,880
Speaker 3: attacks on the Jewish ambulances were carried out by an

1914
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 3: Iranian proxy terra group, a sleeper cell.

1915
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 16: I think it's entirely credible. I think Iran will have

1916
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:27,639
Speaker 16: tentacles that can reach this far, and I think would

1917
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 16: be very naive to think that they don't. So all

1918
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 16: these proxies that they fund and that we know they fund,

1919
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 16: certainly they would have the possibility and the potential to

1920
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:40,000
Speaker 16: do this in London or in any town and city

1921
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 16: across the United Kingdom. We've seen journalists being threatened here.

1922
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 16: We've seen we've had incidents. I mean, they've got form

1923
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:49,720
Speaker 16: for this kind of thing. And randomly, of all the

1924
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,680
Speaker 16: charities and all the business premises that they could have

1925
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:56,600
Speaker 16: been touched or hurt, they happen to be four ambulances

1926
01:32:56,640 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 16: from a Jewish charity helping elderly Jewish people in Golders

1927
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 16: Green in North London. It's very very odd. Yes, there

1928
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 16: is anti Semitism in London, but we've never seen anything

1929
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:10,680
Speaker 16: on the scale of this that four ambulances get torched overnight.

1930
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 16: Police investigation underway and they're looking for three men who

1931
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 16: were captured on CCTV.

1932
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 3: Now, Kirstam is clearly leaning towards this war going on

1933
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 3: much longer than the rest of us think it's going

1934
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:21,640
Speaker 3: to go on.

1935
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 16: For Yes, he's spoke into a Parliamentary committee and he

1936
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 16: was quite I thought he's quite negative really, or just

1937
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 16: maybe with the facts which we're not used to dealing

1938
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 16: with from any politician really, certainly in America in the

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Speaker 16: UK for the last decade and a half. He just said, look,

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Speaker 16: don't think this is going to end anytime soon. And

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Speaker 16: Starmer spoke to Trump on Sunday night and he will

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Speaker 16: have the inside track. He also pointed out that you know,

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Speaker 16: he was asked questions about the criticism of him in

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Speaker 16: the UK response and Starmer said, it's all aimed at

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Speaker 16: ramping pressure up on me and I'm not wavering. Britain

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Speaker 16: is not getting involved.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 16: It's very interesting. I've had some former British diplomats on

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Speaker 16: my show roundtable in the past week and they've all

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Speaker 16: said to me, Britain's not getting involved because we've have

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Speaker 16: nothing to offer. The cupboard is bere there's no military

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Speaker 16: it's been degraded, there's no investment, there's no aircraft carriers,

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Speaker 16: there's nothing. So it's all a bit kind of like,

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Speaker 16: please don't ask us for anything because we won't be

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Speaker 16: able to help anyway.

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Speaker 3: So did he give an indication as to how long

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Speaker 3: he thinks this is going to go on?

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Speaker 5: Four?

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Speaker 16: No, he's not a man for predictions. I mean, the

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Speaker 16: more you watch Starmar, he's a lawyer and he will

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Speaker 16: tell you black and white and words on a page.

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Speaker 16: He's not prone to big public pronouncements. But look, we're

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Speaker 16: hearing peace talks in Pakistan imminently, so I guess we.

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Speaker 3: Live in hope okay, now ten thousand Irish going to

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Speaker 3: prag Why.

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Speaker 16: Well, I'm one of them, sitting here in my lovely

1967
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Speaker 16: twenty twenty twelve away top. It is the FIFA Men's

1968
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Speaker 16: World Cup, a playoff qualifier Czech Republic or check yah

1969
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Speaker 16: as they now are against Ireland. We will be hoping

1970
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Speaker 16: it's checkmate. On Thursday night. Ten thousand Irish are traveling.

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Speaker 16: Would you believe that they play their international soccer fixtures

1972
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Speaker 16: in stadium with a twenty thousand capacity. They've given Ireland

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Speaker 16: eight hundred tickets and ten thousand Irish people have traveled

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Speaker 16: and I reckon nine hundred of them have sent me

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Speaker 16: what's up messages this week looking for tickets. It's going

1976
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Speaker 16: to be a big party. It's to follow on from

1977
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Speaker 16: Saint Patrick's week. It's going to be epic. I can't wait.

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Speaker 3: I can tell, I can hear the excitement and your

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Speaker 3: voice ender. I hope you have all wonderful time. Thank

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Speaker 3: you very much for chatting to us. At the end

1981
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Speaker 3: of Brady, a UK correspondent, what about this guy? Sometimes

1982
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Speaker 3: I just love reading about people who behave so unbelievably

1983
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Speaker 3: badly you think, how did you think that that was Okay,

1984
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Speaker 3: you absolute douchebag. This is one of them. He's a

1985
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Speaker 3: Sydney real estate agent. He's actually a really good looking guy,

1986
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Speaker 3: which I always found surprising when people who are blessed

1987
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Speaker 3: with good looks since ruin their own lives. Anyways, it's

1988
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Speaker 3: this good looking guy is about thirty eight years old,

1989
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Speaker 3: Sidney realist. That agent. He's just been charged for harrising

1990
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Speaker 3: his work mates and various other things. One of the

1991
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 3: allegations is that he missed with his former colleague and

1992
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 3: he sent it messages encouraging her to kill herself, and

1993
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Speaker 3: then he listed the type of method that she should use.

1994
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Speaker 3: And then he allegedly got in contact with funeral companies

1995
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Speaker 3: and gave them her details and they contacted her to

1996
01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:18,800
Speaker 3: arrange end of life celebration services. How twisted is that?

1997
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Speaker 3: And he damaged cars and various other things. Anyway, he's

1998
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Speaker 3: going to face court April fourteen. A messed up guy

1999
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Speaker 3: nine away from seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather TiO for ce Allen Drive Full Show podcast.

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2002
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Speaker 3: Jonah only played on the wing for the All Blacks. Mahendra,

2003
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Speaker 3: thank you that set all that. Now I've got another reason.

2004
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Speaker 3: I'm going to keep finding the reasons for you to

2005
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Speaker 3: get off social media. I've got another reason for you

2006
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Speaker 3: to get off social media, which is that Barry Keegan

2007
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 3: has got off social media. So it's not because well, yeah,

2008
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Speaker 3: well social media is a lot less interesting if Barry

2009
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Speaker 3: Keegan's not on there. Now, if you're like, who are

2010
01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:57,959
Speaker 3: you talking about? He's the guy who was in Saltburn,

2011
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:02,639
Speaker 3: the one who got down in the puddles in the bath,

2012
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 3: that one, the hot one, Well would you say hot?

2013
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Speaker 3: I think probably hot. The one of God is a

2014
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 3: little pick her out. Towards the end, he's dancing around naked.

2015
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm talking about piggy blinders. I think he's hot.

2016
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Speaker 3: I think he's hot, Like I think he's weird enough,

2017
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Speaker 3: Like he's weird looking, but he crosses because he's got

2018
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Speaker 3: a good rig. He sort of crosses from just being

2019
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 3: strange into being kind of like weirdly handsome. Anyway, much

2020
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 3: too much information, but my predilections. He has deleted his

2021
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 3: Instagram because clearly not everyone agrees with me, and a

2022
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Speaker 3: lot of people have said quite nasty things about his appearance,

2023
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:35,960
Speaker 3: and they've called him ugly and Barry's mistake is that

2024
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Speaker 3: Barry has gone and read it and this has made him,

2025
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 3: as you can imagine, feel deeply insecure about his looks,

2026
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Speaker 3: to the extent that he doesn't even want to leave

2027
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Speaker 3: his house, he says, and doesn't want to go out

2028
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Speaker 3: to events. So he made the very grown up decision,

2029
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Speaker 3: which is the only decision that you can make as

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Speaker 3: a grown up in twenty twenty six, and he has

2031
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Speaker 3: got off as social media, so his life is better.

2032
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Speaker 3: You should get off your social media or just keep

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Speaker 3: it there and check in very occasionally and don't are

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Speaker 3: too often.

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Speaker 9: And stop calling people ugly. Goodness me, everybody, when did

2036
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Speaker 9: we lose all our manners?

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Speaker 6: Like that? I know?

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Speaker 27: Accidentally in love by counting Crows to play us out tonight.

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Speaker 27: They will be playing at the Altair Center in Auckland

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Speaker 27: later on tonight, and they're amongst the crowd I believe

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Speaker 27: will possibly be several members of the concert club as no,

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Speaker 27: only two.

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Speaker 9: Only two?

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Speaker 3: So the only reason okay, so the reason that we're

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Speaker 3: going to with actually do you know what this is?

2046
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Speaker 3: Actually a specially?

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Speaker 27: Is it still concert club if there's only two of you?

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Speaker 27: Or is that just you two hanging out.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, this is a debate, but you know what,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna put that on the agenda for tonight. We

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Speaker 3: will discuss that.

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Speaker 9: What's core at count the concert club, oh t.

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Speaker 3: You can't have not one is not concert club because

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Speaker 3: one of them as a philanderer and she's constantly cheating

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Speaker 3: on us, and so that's not constant club anyway, So

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Speaker 3: concert club started with the count last time the Counting

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Speaker 3: Crows were here because no one wanted to go with

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01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 3: one of my friends to Counting Crows because it's Counting Crows.

2059
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 3: So then she was like, do you want to come

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01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 3: here there? And I was like, I love music, I

2061
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 3: got to anything. You're sure? And then I asked the

2062
01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:00,280
Speaker 3: other one and she's like, yeah, I don't see enough people.

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Speaker 3: I've got children. So that's how it filmed.

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Speaker 9: So here's very wholesome, it's lovely.

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Speaker 3: It's like a little anniversary. Anyway. We weren't actually going

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Speaker 3: to go, but then somebody gave us free tickets. Work

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01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:12,559
Speaker 3: gave us for I'm not taking freebies from anyone. Work

2068
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 3: gave us free tickets. So I was like, yeah, I'll go.

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01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 3: I'll go and celebrate the anniversary with two thirds of

2070
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 3: us anyway. I only know three songs, you know which

2071
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 3: one's that?

2072
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 9: This one mister Jones and the one about the Yellow

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01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 9: Taxi team.

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01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:29,559
Speaker 3: The one that they didn't write that Jony wrote. That's

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Speaker 3: the one. Thank you, an So I'll see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Look after yourself. Here's to be.

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Speaker 2: To yourself.

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