1 00:00:07,173 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,453 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,453 --> 00:00:15,453 Speaker 2: A'd be well, Australia has passed its big law. This 4 00:00:15,613 --> 00:00:19,213 Speaker 2: is the social Media band, so effectively, sixteen year olds 5 00:00:19,253 --> 00:00:22,213 Speaker 2: in Australia, well, people under the age of sixteen in 6 00:00:22,253 --> 00:00:25,213 Speaker 2: Australia will not be allowed to use social media. They're 7 00:00:25,213 --> 00:00:30,253 Speaker 2: going to have various verification processes, but the burden or 8 00:00:30,293 --> 00:00:36,173 Speaker 2: the onus to verify social media uses ages all gets 9 00:00:36,173 --> 00:00:39,733 Speaker 2: put on the social media companies themselves. Our textbit Postine 10 00:00:39,733 --> 00:00:42,533 Speaker 2: houses here with the details. Calder Paul, this is pretty big. 11 00:00:42,933 --> 00:00:44,573 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I truly don't know how they're going to 12 00:00:44,653 --> 00:00:47,613 Speaker 3: do this Jack, in all seriousness, I don't know what 13 00:00:47,773 --> 00:00:50,533 Speaker 3: the solution is going to be, especially when the government 14 00:00:50,533 --> 00:00:53,453 Speaker 3: has said they cannot use any government ID, so they 15 00:00:53,493 --> 00:00:56,973 Speaker 3: can't use a passport, they can't use a birth certificate 16 00:00:57,013 --> 00:01:01,093 Speaker 3: Jurdi privacy concerns, and I was actually racking my brain 17 00:01:01,173 --> 00:01:03,573 Speaker 3: this morning trying to think of how they could do this, 18 00:01:04,093 --> 00:01:06,373 Speaker 3: and the only other form of verification I could think 19 00:01:06,493 --> 00:01:09,533 Speaker 3: was a credit card, and a credit card is typically 20 00:01:09,573 --> 00:01:12,773 Speaker 3: issued to people over the age of eighteen, but that's 21 00:01:12,813 --> 00:01:16,933 Speaker 3: not sixteen, and obviously that also creates quite a barrier, right, Oh, 22 00:01:16,973 --> 00:01:18,773 Speaker 3: you've got to have a credit card. Well, then you've 23 00:01:18,773 --> 00:01:20,453 Speaker 3: got to have a credit score. You've got to like 24 00:01:20,533 --> 00:01:23,053 Speaker 3: have maintained good credit, or you've got to apply or 25 00:01:23,093 --> 00:01:25,493 Speaker 3: whatever it is. I truly don't understand what they're going 26 00:01:25,533 --> 00:01:25,973 Speaker 3: to do here. 27 00:01:26,093 --> 00:01:30,253 Speaker 4: Yeah tough, Yeah, yeah, And look, I've worked in digital 28 00:01:30,293 --> 00:01:34,373 Speaker 4: products for quite some time, and I'm seriously I'm racking 29 00:01:34,413 --> 00:01:36,333 Speaker 4: my brain to think what they're going to do. 30 00:01:37,933 --> 00:01:40,933 Speaker 3: Unless they get together. The government said they don't want 31 00:01:40,933 --> 00:01:43,693 Speaker 3: to do any sort of kind of you know, like 32 00:01:43,813 --> 00:01:47,533 Speaker 3: sixteen plus ID. So unleas the social media companies get 33 00:01:47,533 --> 00:01:51,733 Speaker 3: together and create like a consortium and they create their 34 00:01:51,773 --> 00:01:55,613 Speaker 3: own kind of like sixteen plus ID. Honestly, I'm trying 35 00:01:55,613 --> 00:01:57,413 Speaker 3: to think of what the companies would do. Like if 36 00:01:57,453 --> 00:02:00,293 Speaker 3: I was working at somewhere like Meta and was given 37 00:02:00,333 --> 00:02:02,053 Speaker 3: this problem, I don't know how I'd solve it. 38 00:02:02,613 --> 00:02:06,813 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be amazing. I mean, the burden 39 00:02:06,893 --> 00:02:09,453 Speaker 2: riders shifted onto the social media companies, so they get. 40 00:02:09,293 --> 00:02:09,853 Speaker 1: For the fine. 41 00:02:10,053 --> 00:02:12,573 Speaker 3: Hey, but remember the burden is there already today because 42 00:02:12,613 --> 00:02:14,933 Speaker 3: you have to be over thirteen in their terms and conditions. 43 00:02:15,093 --> 00:02:16,773 Speaker 2: You have to their terms and conditions, but they don't 44 00:02:16,813 --> 00:02:19,493 Speaker 2: get punished. Right, so if someone if someone breaks it, 45 00:02:19,533 --> 00:02:20,333 Speaker 2: they don't get fined. 46 00:02:21,013 --> 00:02:23,613 Speaker 3: No, but they do. I mean they do the only 47 00:02:23,653 --> 00:02:26,173 Speaker 3: thing you can do, which is put what's your birthday? 48 00:02:26,293 --> 00:02:29,733 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I were a part from some I mean no, 49 00:02:29,853 --> 00:02:32,093 Speaker 2: I've had stuff though where I've had to send photo 50 00:02:32,093 --> 00:02:36,933 Speaker 2: ID before. I mean, that's what makes it tricky to me. Yeah, 51 00:02:39,333 --> 00:02:40,053 Speaker 2: rock and a hard place. 52 00:02:40,133 --> 00:02:43,013 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a really good example of a law 53 00:02:43,053 --> 00:02:44,853 Speaker 3: of it. It sounds great, don't get me wrong. Do 54 00:02:44,933 --> 00:02:47,413 Speaker 3: we need to do something about kids in social media? Absolutely, 55 00:02:47,733 --> 00:02:48,493 Speaker 3: but this. 56 00:02:49,413 --> 00:02:51,093 Speaker 2: You're not convinced by this one? Interesting? 57 00:02:51,213 --> 00:02:51,373 Speaker 1: Yeah? 58 00:02:51,373 --> 00:02:53,013 Speaker 2: Okay, well look, well the proof of the puddings in 59 00:02:53,053 --> 00:02:56,093 Speaker 2: the eating. We'll see how it all goes. Hey. Interestingly, 60 00:02:56,173 --> 00:02:59,213 Speaker 2: while lots of companies are trying to put satellites in 61 00:02:59,253 --> 00:03:02,253 Speaker 2: space to increase internet access basics of course being top 62 00:03:02,253 --> 00:03:05,853 Speaker 2: of the list, Meta is building a ten billion dollar 63 00:03:05,973 --> 00:03:09,093 Speaker 2: undersea cable that spans the entire globe. 64 00:03:09,693 --> 00:03:13,173 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, when your company is ten percent of all 65 00:03:13,253 --> 00:03:15,693 Speaker 3: land based internet traffic and twenty two percent of all 66 00:03:15,733 --> 00:03:19,533 Speaker 3: mobile internet traffic on the planet, you know that pipes 67 00:03:19,573 --> 00:03:24,093 Speaker 3: are important, and that's why they are laying a forty 68 00:03:24,533 --> 00:03:28,253 Speaker 3: thousand kilometer cable. This is the report, so they haven't 69 00:03:28,293 --> 00:03:30,293 Speaker 3: confirmed this yet, but all reports suggest so this is 70 00:03:30,293 --> 00:03:31,693 Speaker 3: what they're going to do. It's going to take them 71 00:03:31,693 --> 00:03:35,493 Speaker 3: around ten years to complete, and it's a fascinating pattern. 72 00:03:35,533 --> 00:03:38,573 Speaker 3: It's called the w It goes from the east coast 73 00:03:38,653 --> 00:03:42,533 Speaker 3: in the US down to South Africa, up to India, 74 00:03:43,013 --> 00:03:45,773 Speaker 3: down to Australia. They're going to use Darwin at the 75 00:03:45,773 --> 00:03:48,213 Speaker 3: top of Australia there and then over to the west 76 00:03:48,253 --> 00:03:50,533 Speaker 3: coast of the US, So it forms that kind of 77 00:03:50,573 --> 00:03:54,573 Speaker 3: double shape around the world and purposely avoiding areas that 78 00:03:55,293 --> 00:04:00,893 Speaker 3: they're saying have geopolitical tension, such as such as the 79 00:04:00,933 --> 00:04:03,453 Speaker 3: Red Sea and the South China Sea because one of 80 00:04:03,533 --> 00:04:06,853 Speaker 3: the things that some of these groups are doing disrupt 81 00:04:06,933 --> 00:04:10,773 Speaker 3: things as they're disrupting the undersea cables and of course 82 00:04:10,813 --> 00:04:13,293 Speaker 3: repairing trying to repair those as a bit of a nightmare. 83 00:04:13,613 --> 00:04:15,333 Speaker 3: So yeah, they're trying to take these routes that they 84 00:04:15,333 --> 00:04:18,453 Speaker 3: think are going to be the safest. It's interesting though, 85 00:04:18,493 --> 00:04:20,493 Speaker 3: right because if you own the pipe, you can control 86 00:04:20,533 --> 00:04:23,093 Speaker 3: what you do with the pip and so it's in 87 00:04:23,133 --> 00:04:25,533 Speaker 3: some ways it could be a win for META customers 88 00:04:25,573 --> 00:04:28,893 Speaker 3: because it's the WhatsApps, the Facebook's the Instagrams of the 89 00:04:28,893 --> 00:04:33,373 Speaker 3: world because they get to prioritize their own traffic. And interestingly, 90 00:04:33,453 --> 00:04:35,573 Speaker 3: if Meta is going to play in this AI game, 91 00:04:35,893 --> 00:04:41,133 Speaker 3: there is a lot of AI innovation technology skills in India, 92 00:04:42,293 --> 00:04:44,853 Speaker 3: and they say that this pipe that is obviously you know, 93 00:04:44,933 --> 00:04:47,413 Speaker 3: has India as part of its w means that the 94 00:04:47,493 --> 00:04:50,533 Speaker 3: US will have Meta will have a nice high speed 95 00:04:51,373 --> 00:04:54,013 Speaker 3: pathway to get access to the data centers that they 96 00:04:54,093 --> 00:04:57,173 Speaker 3: think will be built for AI in India. 97 00:04:57,253 --> 00:05:00,493 Speaker 2: Interesting, that's really intriguing. Maybe it're just trying to organize 98 00:05:00,493 --> 00:05:00,813 Speaker 2: that there. 99 00:05:01,893 --> 00:05:03,853 Speaker 3: Can you imagine how long that cable has to be, 100 00:05:03,973 --> 00:05:05,733 Speaker 3: Like I'm trying to think of the cable drum on 101 00:05:05,773 --> 00:05:06,373 Speaker 3: the back of the show. 102 00:05:06,493 --> 00:05:09,213 Speaker 2: Oh huge, Yeah, I think I think there's only a 103 00:05:09,253 --> 00:05:11,053 Speaker 2: hunch that I suspect they might need to refill the 104 00:05:11,093 --> 00:05:13,973 Speaker 2: cable drum one or two times. Hey, thank you so 105 00:05:14,053 --> 00:05:16,133 Speaker 2: much for We'll catch you in soon. That's our textbook. 106 00:05:16,213 --> 00:05:18,893 Speaker 2: Paul Stenhouse. Doctor Brian Biddy is here with details on 107 00:05:18,933 --> 00:05:20,453 Speaker 2: the hooping coffee podemic. 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