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This delivery has 8 00:00:32,013 --> 00:00:33,013 Speaker 2: in the music. 9 00:00:32,853 --> 00:00:36,893 Speaker 5: Revolved on the Front Foot. 10 00:00:36,853 --> 00:00:40,493 Speaker 1: With Brian Waddell and Jeremy Cody, powered by News Talks, 11 00:00:40,493 --> 00:00:43,293 Speaker 1: Dead B at iHeartRadio. 12 00:00:46,613 --> 00:00:50,453 Speaker 2: Hello on the Front Foot Back review its semi final 13 00:00:50,533 --> 00:00:54,413 Speaker 2: time at the Champions Trophy. Despite the loss to India, 14 00:00:54,453 --> 00:00:58,493 Speaker 2: another ICCs title still beckons some positive signs from the 15 00:00:58,533 --> 00:01:01,853 Speaker 2: loss in Dubai if we get back there. How important 16 00:01:01,893 --> 00:01:06,693 Speaker 2: will spinbe? Thevendor is sparkling for at ICC events explains 17 00:01:06,733 --> 00:01:09,333 Speaker 2: why he had to come in through the winning side. 18 00:01:09,893 --> 00:01:12,533 Speaker 2: Should England have listened to the politicians and boycott at 19 00:01:12,533 --> 00:01:16,613 Speaker 2: the Afghanistan match probably would have produced the same outcome 20 00:01:17,013 --> 00:01:21,733 Speaker 2: and early flight home and in other sporting action. I 21 00:01:21,813 --> 00:01:24,853 Speaker 2: love the format of the Champions Trophy, but the ICC 22 00:01:25,413 --> 00:01:28,413 Speaker 2: is that the International Cricket Conference or is it the 23 00:01:28,453 --> 00:01:32,493 Speaker 2: Indian Cricket Club have damaged the brand by allowing India 24 00:01:32,573 --> 00:01:35,453 Speaker 2: to dictate venue terms. Didn't the same thing happen in 25 00:01:35,493 --> 00:01:38,373 Speaker 2: the World Cup in the Caribbean, and there are new 26 00:01:38,493 --> 00:01:41,733 Speaker 2: names to the poor and the White Frians team chosen 27 00:01:41,893 --> 00:01:46,173 Speaker 2: on form and in home conditions. Should contracts require top 28 00:01:46,173 --> 00:01:49,573 Speaker 2: players to be available for series at home, the captain 29 00:01:49,813 --> 00:01:54,093 Speaker 2: in waiting, Amelia care is needed to play for the 30 00:01:54,133 --> 00:01:57,173 Speaker 2: White Friends as much as I'm playing ipl We don't 31 00:01:57,213 --> 00:02:01,813 Speaker 2: deny that, but hey, that's the current state of the game. 32 00:02:01,853 --> 00:02:08,293 Speaker 2: I suppose Jeremy Coney, you'd been watching the match in Dubai. 33 00:02:08,973 --> 00:02:12,693 Speaker 2: A loss, but some positive stuff, you know. I still 34 00:02:12,693 --> 00:02:15,013 Speaker 2: think he's held the playing pretty good cricket, aren't they. 35 00:02:15,773 --> 00:02:20,573 Speaker 3: Yeah? Today he was hello run Yeah. I suppose New 36 00:02:20,653 --> 00:02:23,173 Speaker 3: zeal will be a bit disappointed with the batting effort, 37 00:02:23,173 --> 00:02:25,653 Speaker 3: won't they. I don't think they can be too disappointed 38 00:02:28,173 --> 00:02:30,973 Speaker 3: with their bowling effort and their support in the field. 39 00:02:32,573 --> 00:02:35,213 Speaker 3: I thought Henry seen the ball early on in the 40 00:02:35,253 --> 00:02:38,653 Speaker 3: power play Jamison got it to swing away, which meant 41 00:02:38,653 --> 00:02:43,293 Speaker 3: that rot Shama couldn't hit him and attack him and 42 00:02:43,533 --> 00:02:46,853 Speaker 3: was dismissed. I thought sat in the bold a decent 43 00:02:47,413 --> 00:02:50,653 Speaker 3: line as he has done right throughout this tournament and 44 00:02:50,773 --> 00:02:52,973 Speaker 3: changing his pace, and he hasn't been easy. He got 45 00:02:53,013 --> 00:02:58,093 Speaker 3: a bit of turn as well. I thought that brace 46 00:02:58,173 --> 00:03:02,093 Speaker 3: Will probably wasn't his his best game. I think that 47 00:03:02,133 --> 00:03:06,693 Speaker 3: it would be fair to say Revendra Bold six overs 48 00:03:06,733 --> 00:03:12,973 Speaker 3: for thirty and did the job as well. I don't 49 00:03:12,973 --> 00:03:15,453 Speaker 3: know what you thought was but I thought maybe Jameson 50 00:03:15,493 --> 00:03:19,213 Speaker 3: could have bowled his ten. Whether they were holding him 51 00:03:19,253 --> 00:03:22,333 Speaker 3: back because of his back or I don't know, but 52 00:03:22,613 --> 00:03:24,573 Speaker 3: I thought he could because he bowled six in the 53 00:03:24,573 --> 00:03:28,333 Speaker 3: first spell and two in the forty to fifty. I 54 00:03:28,373 --> 00:03:30,653 Speaker 3: thought in the middle he could have had a couple 55 00:03:30,653 --> 00:03:33,093 Speaker 3: of overs there. I don't know, because he was going 56 00:03:33,133 --> 00:03:33,813 Speaker 3: quite nicely. 57 00:03:34,693 --> 00:03:37,733 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they've been professional, they've been organized, and 58 00:03:37,853 --> 00:03:42,173 Speaker 2: they've done an excellent job. But what about someone else's view, 59 00:03:42,213 --> 00:03:44,973 Speaker 2: Gath Galloway joined us once again. He's probably been hiding 60 00:03:45,013 --> 00:03:47,813 Speaker 2: away on holiday somewhere, Gath, keeping up to date with 61 00:03:47,853 --> 00:03:52,253 Speaker 2: the cricket, of course. But your impression of what you've seen, 62 00:03:52,533 --> 00:03:55,053 Speaker 2: not only in the game against India but in general 63 00:03:55,173 --> 00:03:57,893 Speaker 2: the one day form of the black Caps. 64 00:03:57,733 --> 00:04:00,053 Speaker 4: I think they've been really good. Just echoing what Jerry 65 00:04:00,093 --> 00:04:04,013 Speaker 4: said and what you've said. I've enjoyed watching them. I think, 66 00:04:04,053 --> 00:04:06,493 Speaker 4: you know, it does show the advantage doesn't it of 67 00:04:06,533 --> 00:04:09,133 Speaker 4: a decent warm up, and you know, they had that 68 00:04:09,213 --> 00:04:12,453 Speaker 4: tryst series with Pakistan and South Africa, played well, went 69 00:04:12,493 --> 00:04:15,413 Speaker 4: into the tournament, I think, feeling confident in their game, 70 00:04:15,453 --> 00:04:18,573 Speaker 4: with a couple of selection dilemmas and I think they'd 71 00:04:18,653 --> 00:04:20,613 Speaker 4: managed those and negotiated them well. 72 00:04:22,093 --> 00:04:22,293 Speaker 6: You know. 73 00:04:22,333 --> 00:04:25,853 Speaker 4: Again, New Zealand's fielding at home I thought was a 74 00:04:25,853 --> 00:04:30,573 Speaker 4: bit lackluster times during our season, but they've fielded well 75 00:04:30,613 --> 00:04:33,573 Speaker 4: in the tournament, some brilliant I mean, I don't know 76 00:04:33,573 --> 00:04:35,253 Speaker 4: if you saw the catches. I'm sure you did, but 77 00:04:35,293 --> 00:04:38,693 Speaker 4: again Phillip's taking a brilliant catch to get rid of 78 00:04:38,773 --> 00:04:42,373 Speaker 4: Cooley and then Kane Williamson of course taking a couple 79 00:04:42,453 --> 00:04:45,093 Speaker 4: of catches as well, so they've set the standard. I 80 00:04:45,133 --> 00:04:47,293 Speaker 4: think Latham to focus on another area. I think his 81 00:04:47,453 --> 00:04:49,893 Speaker 4: keeping has been pretty good over there, and you know, 82 00:04:49,893 --> 00:04:52,253 Speaker 4: when you're playing three spinners, that's another vital part of 83 00:04:52,293 --> 00:04:56,533 Speaker 4: the game, and I feel that Latham has contributed with 84 00:04:56,693 --> 00:05:00,573 Speaker 4: his gloves pretty well, and obviously batting wise, New Zealand 85 00:05:00,573 --> 00:05:04,013 Speaker 4: have had some highlights and most of the players have contributed. 86 00:05:04,573 --> 00:05:06,893 Speaker 4: I guess the other thing to think to reflect on 87 00:05:06,933 --> 00:05:08,853 Speaker 4: WADS is the captaincy of Santa, which I think has 88 00:05:08,893 --> 00:05:09,493 Speaker 4: been pretty good. 89 00:05:09,773 --> 00:05:12,653 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we've mentioned that as well. Throughout the tournament, 90 00:05:12,653 --> 00:05:15,573 Speaker 2: it's been outstanding. You talk about that fielding, it is 91 00:05:15,613 --> 00:05:18,373 Speaker 2: something we have criticized the Jerias in the past because 92 00:05:18,533 --> 00:05:21,773 Speaker 2: it's been untidy. The catching hasn't been the best. We 93 00:05:21,933 --> 00:05:24,333 Speaker 2: just remember back to the number of catches or the 94 00:05:24,373 --> 00:05:27,173 Speaker 2: number of times Harry Brook was dropped. But how many 95 00:05:27,333 --> 00:05:30,893 Speaker 2: runs are those catches that Phillips takes and seems to 96 00:05:30,933 --> 00:05:33,733 Speaker 2: be able to do it at will, the left handed 97 00:05:34,093 --> 00:05:36,933 Speaker 2: one in the Pakistan game, and then to get rid 98 00:05:36,973 --> 00:05:40,533 Speaker 2: of Coley. Coley was just believing, wasn't he Yell? 99 00:05:40,613 --> 00:05:43,973 Speaker 3: He hit that pretty hard, Brian, didn't he really? I 100 00:05:44,013 --> 00:05:46,093 Speaker 3: suppose if I was to compare the two, because it 101 00:05:46,133 --> 00:05:48,413 Speaker 3: was a left handed one, the first one against Pakistan, 102 00:05:48,453 --> 00:05:51,173 Speaker 3: I would have said that might be slightly better. In 103 00:05:51,173 --> 00:05:55,653 Speaker 3: other words, it's not as strong hand, but they're both very, 104 00:05:55,773 --> 00:05:59,493 Speaker 3: very good catches. It's the sort of thing. The first 105 00:05:59,573 --> 00:06:03,893 Speaker 3: thing I would say is that he's obviously alert in 106 00:06:03,933 --> 00:06:07,853 Speaker 3: the fields. It's a key position. And if a bowler 107 00:06:07,973 --> 00:06:11,773 Speaker 3: like Raurck is bowling who tends to just be a 108 00:06:11,813 --> 00:06:15,773 Speaker 3: little bit on the short side and if he's outside 109 00:06:15,773 --> 00:06:21,253 Speaker 3: of stump, that backward point position becomes very important. He's 110 00:06:21,373 --> 00:06:27,093 Speaker 3: obviously expecting something. A catch does not surprise him. He 111 00:06:27,253 --> 00:06:32,333 Speaker 3: is awake, alert and ready to go. And you need 112 00:06:32,373 --> 00:06:34,773 Speaker 3: to be that as a fieldsman. You need to expect 113 00:06:34,773 --> 00:06:39,213 Speaker 3: to catch every ball. It shouldn't surprise you. And certainly 114 00:06:39,293 --> 00:06:39,973 Speaker 3: that doesn't. 115 00:06:40,773 --> 00:06:43,093 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been critical of some of the fielding, but 116 00:06:43,213 --> 00:06:46,773 Speaker 2: it just shows the value of quality fielding guard doesn't 117 00:06:46,773 --> 00:06:50,293 Speaker 2: it that? You know, it lifts the team in other 118 00:06:50,373 --> 00:06:53,693 Speaker 2: areas and it just shows that New Zealand can't be trifled. 119 00:06:53,693 --> 00:06:56,853 Speaker 2: Would they are up there and still got a chance 120 00:06:56,853 --> 00:06:58,493 Speaker 2: of winning this champions trophy? 121 00:06:59,253 --> 00:06:59,693 Speaker 3: Yeah they have. 122 00:07:00,013 --> 00:07:03,453 Speaker 4: And then if you look at contrasting fortunes and think 123 00:07:03,493 --> 00:07:06,373 Speaker 4: about the fielding, I think England's fielding has been very 124 00:07:06,413 --> 00:07:09,333 Speaker 4: poor once you know, they dropped a number of catchers, 125 00:07:09,373 --> 00:07:11,773 Speaker 4: a number of miss fields in the inner circle, some 126 00:07:11,893 --> 00:07:16,453 Speaker 4: poor boundary fielding and that's really gone along with their 127 00:07:16,493 --> 00:07:19,253 Speaker 4: fortunes in the tournament. You know, the sides, I think 128 00:07:19,293 --> 00:07:21,733 Speaker 4: the best four sides are throw in India, New Zealand, 129 00:07:21,733 --> 00:07:23,893 Speaker 4: South Africa and Australia. I don't think there's any doubt 130 00:07:23,933 --> 00:07:27,613 Speaker 4: about that and all of those sides are good fielding sides, 131 00:07:28,093 --> 00:07:30,013 Speaker 4: and New Zealand are the equal, if not the better, 132 00:07:30,053 --> 00:07:32,173 Speaker 4: of all of them. I think on their day with. 133 00:07:32,213 --> 00:07:35,293 Speaker 2: The fielding, Yeah, and the Black Aps have got players 134 00:07:35,293 --> 00:07:39,813 Speaker 2: in form. Everyone has provided something at some time for them. 135 00:07:39,813 --> 00:07:42,413 Speaker 2: They needed to string it together in semi final and 136 00:07:42,493 --> 00:07:43,813 Speaker 2: final situations. 137 00:07:43,893 --> 00:07:48,333 Speaker 3: Jerry Well, they certainly have been able to get to 138 00:07:48,453 --> 00:07:53,973 Speaker 3: positions and games against Bangladesh and obviously in that sort 139 00:07:53,973 --> 00:07:59,333 Speaker 3: of try series prior to and also Pakistan where they 140 00:07:59,413 --> 00:08:03,213 Speaker 3: put Shillips in a position just before the fortieth over 141 00:08:03,533 --> 00:08:06,693 Speaker 3: he could get himself in and then he would cause 142 00:08:06,693 --> 00:08:09,773 Speaker 3: a great deal of damage. They couldn't quite do that 143 00:08:10,293 --> 00:08:17,693 Speaker 3: in these conditions. You know, against India the surface was 144 00:08:17,813 --> 00:08:21,893 Speaker 3: very different from Pakistan, and I think really you know, 145 00:08:21,973 --> 00:08:25,933 Speaker 3: they asked that. They asked Williamson to just do too much. 146 00:08:26,613 --> 00:08:30,173 Speaker 3: He needed two guys to just get thirties or forties 147 00:08:30,213 --> 00:08:33,933 Speaker 3: around him and then that could have been New Zealand 148 00:08:33,973 --> 00:08:37,253 Speaker 3: through to a victory in that game. But that shows 149 00:08:37,253 --> 00:08:41,413 Speaker 3: you how different this venue is New Zealand. I don't 150 00:08:41,453 --> 00:08:45,333 Speaker 3: think it'll affect them greatly. I hope it doesn't. They'll 151 00:08:45,413 --> 00:08:48,733 Speaker 3: just park. I think the things that they will have 152 00:08:48,813 --> 00:08:52,533 Speaker 3: learned from that game, and if they happen to go 153 00:08:52,613 --> 00:08:56,253 Speaker 3: back there in the final, if that's the case, then 154 00:08:56,333 --> 00:08:58,853 Speaker 3: I think, you know, they'll be able to look at 155 00:08:58,853 --> 00:09:03,613 Speaker 3: all the things that they've learned there. So you know, 156 00:09:04,013 --> 00:09:07,693 Speaker 3: I think spin, for example, only got two through one 157 00:09:07,733 --> 00:09:11,853 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty from the twenty five overs they bowled, 158 00:09:12,253 --> 00:09:16,173 Speaker 3: and the pace seven for one hundred and twenty, so 159 00:09:16,533 --> 00:09:20,373 Speaker 3: and in spinning conditions, we really needed to do a 160 00:09:20,413 --> 00:09:24,453 Speaker 3: little better through the middle, and that's where I thought 161 00:09:24,533 --> 00:09:27,933 Speaker 3: Jameson could have come in and broken that up a weaver. Yeah. 162 00:09:28,213 --> 00:09:34,333 Speaker 2: Interesting. The other situation from the New Zealand point of viewers, 163 00:09:34,573 --> 00:09:37,933 Speaker 2: would they have had in mind who they wanted to 164 00:09:37,973 --> 00:09:40,373 Speaker 2: play in the semifinal or does that not come into 165 00:09:40,413 --> 00:09:43,573 Speaker 2: your calculations. I mean, they know they were in the semifinal, 166 00:09:44,693 --> 00:09:47,173 Speaker 2: South Africa or Australia. Does it really matter when you 167 00:09:47,213 --> 00:09:48,853 Speaker 2: get to this stage of the tournament. 168 00:09:49,253 --> 00:09:51,533 Speaker 4: Well, for me, I think you want to play South Africa. 169 00:09:51,613 --> 00:09:53,453 Speaker 4: I mean I think that would have been their preference. 170 00:09:53,813 --> 00:09:56,053 Speaker 4: That's not to suggest for a moment that they through 171 00:09:56,053 --> 00:09:58,213 Speaker 4: the game to ensure that that could happen. 172 00:09:59,133 --> 00:09:59,213 Speaker 3: But. 173 00:10:01,053 --> 00:10:04,053 Speaker 7: Yeah, I just I feel we'll see. 174 00:10:04,853 --> 00:10:07,973 Speaker 4: I just feel that South Africa or aside who as 175 00:10:08,013 --> 00:10:11,613 Speaker 4: we know, they've won this champions Trophy once, they haven't 176 00:10:11,653 --> 00:10:14,013 Speaker 4: won anything else and they don't have a good reputation 177 00:10:14,093 --> 00:10:17,013 Speaker 4: when it comes to tournaments semi finals and finals, so 178 00:10:17,133 --> 00:10:21,293 Speaker 4: I think and Australia of course, are the absolute opposite 179 00:10:21,453 --> 00:10:24,653 Speaker 4: of that. So I think I don't think they would 180 00:10:24,653 --> 00:10:26,853 Speaker 4: never go into the game thinking this is our preference 181 00:10:26,853 --> 00:10:29,653 Speaker 4: and it's going to dictate our play. But I don't 182 00:10:29,653 --> 00:10:32,213 Speaker 4: think they'll be unhappy at all with the way things 183 00:10:32,213 --> 00:10:32,853 Speaker 4: are panning out. 184 00:10:34,373 --> 00:10:36,813 Speaker 3: I think South Africa having said that, and I think 185 00:10:36,853 --> 00:10:39,573 Speaker 3: their fair points guard mates, I don't think it'll be 186 00:10:39,613 --> 00:10:45,053 Speaker 3: an easy game. Lahore has been of the three Pakistan 187 00:10:45,213 --> 00:10:48,213 Speaker 3: venues a bit of a run fest, I mean three 188 00:10:48,413 --> 00:10:53,853 Speaker 3: thirty plus and I'm looking at the two sides. I 189 00:10:54,133 --> 00:10:56,573 Speaker 3: just sense that South Africa have got a bit more 190 00:10:56,693 --> 00:11:02,893 Speaker 3: power hitting on a very flat pitch, and you know 191 00:11:02,973 --> 00:11:09,173 Speaker 3: with players like Class and particularly and Miller, and then 192 00:11:09,213 --> 00:11:12,373 Speaker 3: they've got batting with would say Markram LeVander, Dusten and 193 00:11:12,453 --> 00:11:16,493 Speaker 3: Rickleton the opener, So whether they all play, They've had 194 00:11:16,533 --> 00:11:20,013 Speaker 3: some illness in that group, haven't they. So I think 195 00:11:20,053 --> 00:11:24,053 Speaker 3: there's a bit of danger to their batting, particularly with 196 00:11:24,133 --> 00:11:28,813 Speaker 3: our death bowling. We'll obviously want to pick up wickets 197 00:11:28,853 --> 00:11:33,053 Speaker 3: through the innings, but you know, they're probably as far 198 00:11:33,093 --> 00:11:37,293 Speaker 3: as their bowling is concerned, they'll go for their quicks. Rabada, 199 00:11:38,733 --> 00:11:42,853 Speaker 3: Marco Jansson and Ingidi. Perhaps Molder has been bowling through 200 00:11:42,893 --> 00:11:46,973 Speaker 3: the middle, and maybe Maharaje. They might pick CHALMSY don't know. 201 00:11:47,533 --> 00:11:50,853 Speaker 3: Maharaje is an underrated spinner. I think the ground at 202 00:11:50,933 --> 00:11:55,173 Speaker 3: Lahorse and they've played there already South Africa, they could 203 00:11:55,213 --> 00:11:58,213 Speaker 3: be a dangerous site, but it's a better chance for 204 00:11:58,333 --> 00:12:03,893 Speaker 3: New Zealand than playing, you know, in Dubai. I don't 205 00:12:03,933 --> 00:12:06,213 Speaker 3: know why they've done them. I mean, well we know 206 00:12:06,253 --> 00:12:09,053 Speaker 3: why they're down there in Dubai, but why didn't they 207 00:12:09,133 --> 00:12:12,053 Speaker 3: share that around. Why didn't they put them at Charger 208 00:12:12,133 --> 00:12:14,653 Speaker 3: for another game. Why didn't they put them at Abul 209 00:12:14,733 --> 00:12:18,973 Speaker 3: Danby for another game and change the venues down there 210 00:12:19,013 --> 00:12:19,693 Speaker 3: in the UAE. 211 00:12:20,173 --> 00:12:24,053 Speaker 2: I quite agree, I can't understand the reasoning. I know 212 00:12:24,253 --> 00:12:28,613 Speaker 2: why it's done. It's done for money and political purposes. Basically, 213 00:12:28,693 --> 00:12:31,013 Speaker 2: I'd go back to what happened in the two thousand 214 00:12:31,013 --> 00:12:33,213 Speaker 2: and three World Cup and they forfeit games if they 215 00:12:33,253 --> 00:12:35,053 Speaker 2: didn't want to go and play in Pakistan. But they're 216 00:12:35,053 --> 00:12:39,293 Speaker 2: never going to do that. But India have the situation 217 00:12:39,653 --> 00:12:43,373 Speaker 2: They've got themselves insconsin a hotel, feed up, swimming pool, 218 00:12:43,893 --> 00:12:45,853 Speaker 2: you know, a few Gin and Tonics or a beer 219 00:12:45,973 --> 00:12:47,853 Speaker 2: where they want to They don't have to worry about 220 00:12:47,893 --> 00:12:50,973 Speaker 2: getting a plane to Lahore and then back to Dubai. 221 00:12:51,413 --> 00:12:54,133 Speaker 2: You know, New Zealand finish a game against India, they 222 00:12:54,173 --> 00:12:57,693 Speaker 2: have to get on the flight to go to Lahore 223 00:12:58,053 --> 00:13:00,693 Speaker 2: and they you know, they're the ones that are having 224 00:13:00,733 --> 00:13:04,093 Speaker 2: to do the hard yards. It's making it too easy 225 00:13:04,173 --> 00:13:07,413 Speaker 2: for India and they are benefiting from it, being able 226 00:13:07,453 --> 00:13:11,093 Speaker 2: to play in conditions that suit their team. Yeah, they are. 227 00:13:11,133 --> 00:13:13,253 Speaker 4: And I think you go to put it to a 228 00:13:13,253 --> 00:13:16,693 Speaker 4: position where, you know, India. Everyone used to love watching 229 00:13:16,733 --> 00:13:18,853 Speaker 4: India play. I mean I still do. I think their 230 00:13:18,853 --> 00:13:22,973 Speaker 4: players are very attractive cricketers. Their batsmen are beautiful to 231 00:13:23,013 --> 00:13:25,213 Speaker 4: watch by and large. They have some real power through 232 00:13:25,213 --> 00:13:28,853 Speaker 4: their batting lineup as well, and they have terrific spinners 233 00:13:28,893 --> 00:13:31,253 Speaker 4: and we saw that against New Zealand last night as 234 00:13:31,293 --> 00:13:35,933 Speaker 4: well as you know Pandea and Chami and co with 235 00:13:36,333 --> 00:13:38,493 Speaker 4: you know, they've got some good pace as well. But 236 00:13:38,573 --> 00:13:40,893 Speaker 4: I feel that you you know, that they're the side 237 00:13:41,053 --> 00:13:44,413 Speaker 4: used to love seeing doing well against Australia and England. 238 00:13:44,493 --> 00:13:47,333 Speaker 4: They always felt like a bit of an underdog, and 239 00:13:47,413 --> 00:13:50,413 Speaker 4: now I just feel that the mood's changed a bit 240 00:13:50,773 --> 00:13:54,013 Speaker 4: and these sorts of things don't help, you know. They 241 00:13:54,333 --> 00:13:58,693 Speaker 4: there's an entitlement and an arrogance to the organization, and 242 00:13:59,013 --> 00:14:00,933 Speaker 4: you know, a tournament should should not be run on 243 00:14:00,973 --> 00:14:04,053 Speaker 4: the basis that it's not fair, it's not even and 244 00:14:04,133 --> 00:14:06,533 Speaker 4: I think for many people, you know, they'll be hoping 245 00:14:06,973 --> 00:14:10,733 Speaker 4: like anything that India get beaten in the semi finals. 246 00:14:11,773 --> 00:14:13,853 Speaker 2: I'm sure that's part of the feeling from a lot 247 00:14:13,853 --> 00:14:16,613 Speaker 2: of people's point of view. But New Zealand has to 248 00:14:16,813 --> 00:14:20,493 Speaker 2: decide what sort of team they want in Lahore and 249 00:14:20,653 --> 00:14:23,373 Speaker 2: hopefully what sort of team they're going to need and 250 00:14:23,453 --> 00:14:26,373 Speaker 2: do by if they get back there, if India through 251 00:14:26,413 --> 00:14:29,853 Speaker 2: to the final. Otherwise of course they remain in Lahore. 252 00:14:29,973 --> 00:14:33,013 Speaker 2: In our last edition, we question who should be dropped 253 00:14:33,053 --> 00:14:38,493 Speaker 2: to allow for Revendra's reselection Illness to Mitchell answered that question. 254 00:14:38,933 --> 00:14:42,773 Speaker 2: Vendra's habit of scoring hundreds at ICC tournaments was added 255 00:14:42,773 --> 00:14:46,253 Speaker 2: to He's got four now despite the frustrations of being 256 00:14:46,373 --> 00:14:49,013 Speaker 2: out with that freak injury. When he got back, he 257 00:14:49,093 --> 00:14:52,493 Speaker 2: hit the ground running, running hot. 258 00:14:53,133 --> 00:14:56,013 Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure, thank you very much. Definitely. 259 00:14:56,013 --> 00:14:58,933 Speaker 6: I guess whenever you come back from a well notice 260 00:14:59,013 --> 00:15:01,653 Speaker 6: the injury, a freak accident, you want to contrary to 261 00:15:01,693 --> 00:15:04,733 Speaker 6: the team again. And you know, obviously the team's been 262 00:15:04,733 --> 00:15:07,613 Speaker 6: going so well, so you don't want to ruin momentum 263 00:15:07,693 --> 00:15:09,693 Speaker 6: or change the team. So it was nice to come 264 00:15:09,733 --> 00:15:12,573 Speaker 6: out there and put on a decent performance and help 265 00:15:12,613 --> 00:15:14,773 Speaker 6: the team, you know, book a semi final spot. 266 00:15:15,373 --> 00:15:16,733 Speaker 2: It's hard to get a place in the top or 267 00:15:16,773 --> 00:15:17,693 Speaker 2: at the moment, isn't it. 268 00:15:18,853 --> 00:15:20,693 Speaker 6: Yeah, but that's that's the beauty of it. You know, 269 00:15:20,733 --> 00:15:23,213 Speaker 6: we we've got. I think the depth that we have 270 00:15:23,253 --> 00:15:25,253 Speaker 6: in our current team is amazing. I don't think many 271 00:15:25,333 --> 00:15:27,613 Speaker 6: times we've seen a New Zealand team quite like it. 272 00:15:27,693 --> 00:15:31,093 Speaker 6: So it's cool to be involved in an amazing period 273 00:15:31,053 --> 00:15:34,053 Speaker 6: for New Zealand cricket and hopefully we can keep developing 274 00:15:34,053 --> 00:15:37,413 Speaker 6: each other together and keep driving each other to contribute. 275 00:15:37,813 --> 00:15:40,693 Speaker 2: Yeah. I haven't seen anything about the injury you sustained. 276 00:15:40,693 --> 00:15:43,293 Speaker 2: How did it impact themselves? I know sort of in 277 00:15:43,333 --> 00:15:48,053 Speaker 2: the in the forehead you were What was the feeling 278 00:15:48,133 --> 00:15:48,933 Speaker 2: like after you got hit? 279 00:15:49,333 --> 00:15:50,493 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was. It was interesting. 280 00:15:50,533 --> 00:15:52,013 Speaker 6: I guess you could still see the remnants of the 281 00:15:52,013 --> 00:15:55,333 Speaker 6: scar there, still healing and a wee bit, but to 282 00:15:55,413 --> 00:15:58,013 Speaker 6: be honest, it all kept happening quite quickly a little 283 00:15:58,013 --> 00:16:00,213 Speaker 6: bit of the days. I guess the ball sort of 284 00:16:00,213 --> 00:16:03,333 Speaker 6: into the lights and didn't leave the lights, And I'm very, 285 00:16:03,453 --> 00:16:05,373 Speaker 6: very fortunate that it hit me where it did. Any 286 00:16:05,413 --> 00:16:07,133 Speaker 6: any lower, I think it would have been a really 287 00:16:07,453 --> 00:16:10,933 Speaker 6: real problem. Probably looked a lot worse than what it was, 288 00:16:11,013 --> 00:16:12,773 Speaker 6: just with the amount of blood and stuff on the field. 289 00:16:12,853 --> 00:16:15,133 Speaker 7: But luckily enough had a couple of. 290 00:16:15,133 --> 00:16:18,413 Speaker 6: Stitches and docks that stitching me up at the ground, 291 00:16:18,453 --> 00:16:20,613 Speaker 6: so that was good, and been able to recover well. 292 00:16:20,653 --> 00:16:22,693 Speaker 6: I guess the whole thing about concussion is the return 293 00:16:22,733 --> 00:16:25,333 Speaker 6: to play protocol and when you can play again enough 294 00:16:25,333 --> 00:16:27,573 Speaker 6: to getting headaches and stuff. But I was lucky enough 295 00:16:27,613 --> 00:16:29,533 Speaker 6: to come through that okay and be able to play 296 00:16:29,533 --> 00:16:30,133 Speaker 6: that second game. 297 00:16:30,373 --> 00:16:32,813 Speaker 2: Can you give us an assessment of the conditions, the 298 00:16:32,853 --> 00:16:36,653 Speaker 2: pitch conditions as such? Were they as you expected? I 299 00:16:36,693 --> 00:16:38,373 Speaker 2: know you've had a bit of experience in that part 300 00:16:38,413 --> 00:16:41,133 Speaker 2: of the world anyway, in recent times and in Dubai 301 00:16:41,253 --> 00:16:43,293 Speaker 2: as well. Are they as you expected? 302 00:16:44,173 --> 00:16:44,853 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so. 303 00:16:44,973 --> 00:16:47,573 Speaker 6: I think the wickets tend to be a little bit 304 00:16:47,613 --> 00:16:50,653 Speaker 6: lower here and a bit skiddy lucky enough. Like you said, 305 00:16:50,653 --> 00:16:52,413 Speaker 6: we've played a lot of Cracker here in the recent 306 00:16:52,493 --> 00:16:54,893 Speaker 6: past and we've got a lot of experience to lean 307 00:16:54,933 --> 00:16:55,773 Speaker 6: on with that stuff. 308 00:16:56,653 --> 00:16:59,493 Speaker 7: So yeah, they've been quite up to expectation. 309 00:17:00,093 --> 00:17:02,413 Speaker 6: But also it's that adaption piece, right, We've had a 310 00:17:02,413 --> 00:17:04,093 Speaker 6: home someone in New Zealand we played white Wall Cracker 311 00:17:04,133 --> 00:17:05,773 Speaker 6: on bouncy of wickets that do a little bit more 312 00:17:05,773 --> 00:17:07,693 Speaker 6: with the new ball where is here, the more challenges 313 00:17:07,693 --> 00:17:09,893 Speaker 6: spin through the middle and stuff. So really tests our 314 00:17:09,933 --> 00:17:12,333 Speaker 6: game on how we can adapt to what's in front 315 00:17:12,333 --> 00:17:14,853 Speaker 6: of us, which is exciting Banchester for it. Get to 316 00:17:14,853 --> 00:17:17,613 Speaker 6: play in all these different environments, especially during a World tournament, 317 00:17:18,253 --> 00:17:20,853 Speaker 6: tested stuff with that stuff, So yeah, I think so. 318 00:17:21,013 --> 00:17:24,013 Speaker 6: And the scouting and the comms from the coaches have 319 00:17:24,013 --> 00:17:26,533 Speaker 6: been great and I think that's probably a reason why 320 00:17:26,613 --> 00:17:27,973 Speaker 6: we've done reasonably well so far. 321 00:17:28,293 --> 00:17:30,573 Speaker 2: You like this format of the tournament. That's pretty quick fire, 322 00:17:30,613 --> 00:17:30,973 Speaker 2: isn't it. 323 00:17:31,093 --> 00:17:33,893 Speaker 7: Yeah. I think it's quite cool. I enjoy the knockout 324 00:17:33,933 --> 00:17:35,013 Speaker 7: type aspect. 325 00:17:34,653 --> 00:17:38,413 Speaker 6: Of it means there's no real room to have an 326 00:17:38,453 --> 00:17:41,373 Speaker 6: off day or anything like that. But that's what sort 327 00:17:41,413 --> 00:17:44,653 Speaker 6: of excites you about cricket like that, because a couple 328 00:17:44,653 --> 00:17:46,573 Speaker 6: of mistakes and then all of a sudden you're under 329 00:17:46,613 --> 00:17:48,373 Speaker 6: the pump. And I think it's it's cool for the 330 00:17:48,413 --> 00:17:51,053 Speaker 6: fans too, knowing this this is the way it is, 331 00:17:51,093 --> 00:17:53,613 Speaker 6: and you want your team to do so well and 332 00:17:53,933 --> 00:17:55,413 Speaker 6: you know if you lose one, it's a big problem. 333 00:17:55,453 --> 00:17:59,013 Speaker 7: But it's cool format nice like short and sharp. 334 00:17:59,013 --> 00:18:02,013 Speaker 2: Yeah, desides having success. So I guess there's confidence there. 335 00:18:02,453 --> 00:18:05,093 Speaker 2: I guess you've also got to remain grounded as the 336 00:18:05,373 --> 00:18:06,613 Speaker 2: tournament goes through, don't. 337 00:18:06,453 --> 00:18:07,093 Speaker 7: You for sure. 338 00:18:07,173 --> 00:18:09,533 Speaker 6: I mean that's also the key way, right we be 339 00:18:09,773 --> 00:18:13,973 Speaker 6: our feeder and play with respect and obviously that the 340 00:18:13,973 --> 00:18:16,693 Speaker 6: confidence in our group and our ability and the trust 341 00:18:16,693 --> 00:18:18,613 Speaker 6: in ourselves. But at the end of the day, it's 342 00:18:18,653 --> 00:18:21,453 Speaker 6: just executing our skills ball after ball and not trying 343 00:18:21,453 --> 00:18:22,693 Speaker 6: to get too far ahead of ourselves. 344 00:18:22,773 --> 00:18:24,653 Speaker 7: We all know we're playing good cricket, but that's because 345 00:18:24,653 --> 00:18:24,933 Speaker 7: of the. 346 00:18:24,893 --> 00:18:27,213 Speaker 6: Work that we've done and the lead up, and we 347 00:18:27,213 --> 00:18:29,693 Speaker 6: don't necessarily have to change things and hopefully we can 348 00:18:29,733 --> 00:18:32,333 Speaker 6: just adapt on the day and see where that takes 349 00:18:32,373 --> 00:18:33,413 Speaker 6: us Jerry. 350 00:18:33,413 --> 00:18:36,893 Speaker 2: He's a significant player in the New Zealand side. Revender. 351 00:18:37,013 --> 00:18:39,573 Speaker 2: You know, there was no argument about him coming back in. 352 00:18:40,173 --> 00:18:44,093 Speaker 2: They have been able to use him, but you see 353 00:18:44,213 --> 00:18:47,613 Speaker 2: a sort of changing of his use within the side. 354 00:18:48,133 --> 00:18:48,373 Speaker 4: Yeah. 355 00:18:48,773 --> 00:18:53,413 Speaker 3: I just wondered watching last night Brian, if Revendra we 356 00:18:53,453 --> 00:18:56,413 Speaker 3: would regard him maybe as one of our better players 357 00:18:56,413 --> 00:18:59,733 Speaker 3: that's slow and spin bowling, and I think that's probably 358 00:18:59,893 --> 00:19:04,573 Speaker 3: right that he's able to take a delivery landing in 359 00:19:04,613 --> 00:19:09,333 Speaker 3: the same place and perhaps are too different parts of 360 00:19:09,373 --> 00:19:12,013 Speaker 3: the field which makes it difficult for the fielding captain 361 00:19:12,053 --> 00:19:16,413 Speaker 3: to set a field. And I just wondered whether we 362 00:19:16,533 --> 00:19:20,013 Speaker 3: are putting him in just a little early in those 363 00:19:20,093 --> 00:19:23,933 Speaker 3: spinning conditions. I'm not suggesting we take him out of 364 00:19:24,653 --> 00:19:29,253 Speaker 3: opening perhaps against South Africa. I just thought that also 365 00:19:30,413 --> 00:19:35,053 Speaker 3: Mitchell looked a little bit lost against Varren CHAKRAVARTI not 366 00:19:35,093 --> 00:19:37,213 Speaker 3: that he was the only one to be like that, 367 00:19:38,493 --> 00:19:42,773 Speaker 3: but I just think let's use our best players in 368 00:19:42,813 --> 00:19:48,693 Speaker 3: the best time. We don't want Ravendra being removed, you know, 369 00:19:48,773 --> 00:19:52,173 Speaker 3: in those first ten overs if it can be helped, 370 00:19:52,973 --> 00:19:56,693 Speaker 3: and I just feel maybe it might offer something. I 371 00:19:56,733 --> 00:19:59,293 Speaker 3: don't like changing batting orders very much. I don't like 372 00:19:59,373 --> 00:20:02,173 Speaker 3: changing teams that much once you get to these very 373 00:20:02,253 --> 00:20:05,893 Speaker 3: quick tournaments. So but that was just one thing in 374 00:20:05,933 --> 00:20:07,773 Speaker 3: the back of my mind that seemed to make a 375 00:20:07,813 --> 00:20:10,693 Speaker 3: bit of sense. Now, whether that means that they opened 376 00:20:10,693 --> 00:20:13,933 Speaker 3: with Conway or whether they put maybe even Mitchell up there. 377 00:20:14,133 --> 00:20:16,613 Speaker 3: He's opened, remember he opened down at the UAE and 378 00:20:16,653 --> 00:20:21,333 Speaker 3: the T twenties didn't he So I think I think 379 00:20:21,333 --> 00:20:23,773 Speaker 3: it is. It is a possible one, as long as 380 00:20:23,813 --> 00:20:27,133 Speaker 3: they prepare people for it, and it doesn't seem to 381 00:20:27,213 --> 00:20:32,053 Speaker 3: upset obviously a wound upset Ravendra, I wouldn't think, because 382 00:20:32,093 --> 00:20:34,013 Speaker 3: he's used to batting it for as well. 383 00:20:34,893 --> 00:20:37,653 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the I mean for me, I suppose 384 00:20:38,093 --> 00:20:40,613 Speaker 4: that what they will do and what we might do 385 00:20:40,773 --> 00:20:45,333 Speaker 4: Jerry are two different things, and not totally and I 386 00:20:45,373 --> 00:20:50,853 Speaker 4: think that they are. They're obviously playing well, but they 387 00:20:50,893 --> 00:20:55,373 Speaker 4: are an organization I think who have been crippled by 388 00:20:55,413 --> 00:20:59,613 Speaker 4: conservatism and so for that reason, you know, I don't 389 00:20:59,653 --> 00:21:02,453 Speaker 4: see them taking risks in a semi final in the 390 00:21:02,533 --> 00:21:05,173 Speaker 4: Champions Trophy. And I think, you know the way that 391 00:21:05,333 --> 00:21:09,493 Speaker 4: Stephen Coo think is well putting the Indian game to 392 00:21:09,573 --> 00:21:12,213 Speaker 4: one side, and it wasn't a terrible performance by New 393 00:21:12,333 --> 00:21:15,933 Speaker 4: Zealand in that game against a very good side. Putting 394 00:21:15,933 --> 00:21:18,413 Speaker 4: that to one side, I think they'll just think, look, 395 00:21:18,653 --> 00:21:22,133 Speaker 4: we'll stick with what we know. I suppose the question, 396 00:21:22,213 --> 00:21:24,373 Speaker 4: as you say, is whether Conway comes in for Young 397 00:21:24,453 --> 00:21:26,493 Speaker 4: or Avenger. I don't think they'll make a change. I 398 00:21:26,533 --> 00:21:28,533 Speaker 4: think they have to have to stick with the same 399 00:21:28,573 --> 00:21:30,693 Speaker 4: eleven and I think that's what they'll do. 400 00:21:31,333 --> 00:21:31,533 Speaker 3: Yeah. 401 00:21:31,653 --> 00:21:34,813 Speaker 2: Indeed, it's just a matter of making better use to 402 00:21:34,853 --> 00:21:37,413 Speaker 2: a certain extent of Revender. Here's a stroke player, isn't he. 403 00:21:37,773 --> 00:21:41,653 Speaker 2: And we saw in the game against India in Dubai 404 00:21:41,933 --> 00:21:44,893 Speaker 2: that it was very hard to be playing the ball 405 00:21:45,013 --> 00:21:46,933 Speaker 2: freely early on. You had to spend a bit of 406 00:21:46,973 --> 00:21:53,253 Speaker 2: time getting in. That's what Aya and a supperatel Ac Sapatel, 407 00:21:53,533 --> 00:21:55,413 Speaker 2: you know, that's what they did. They spend a fair 408 00:21:55,413 --> 00:21:58,293 Speaker 2: bit of time getting settled, didn't they They did. 409 00:21:58,373 --> 00:22:00,333 Speaker 4: I mean I think that if you watch. I mean, 410 00:22:00,373 --> 00:22:02,613 Speaker 4: I think Jerry and I have talked about this many 411 00:22:02,653 --> 00:22:06,413 Speaker 4: times with you once how and Jerry's absolutely right talking 412 00:22:06,413 --> 00:22:09,333 Speaker 4: about how Williamson, you know, And it's in all forms 413 00:22:09,333 --> 00:22:11,853 Speaker 4: of the game when a wicket falls early, he's under pressure. 414 00:22:12,013 --> 00:22:13,213 Speaker 7: And I think we saw it. 415 00:22:13,213 --> 00:22:15,733 Speaker 4: It's a classic example in this game against India last 416 00:22:15,813 --> 00:22:18,093 Speaker 4: night where he scored eighty one off one hundred and 417 00:22:18,173 --> 00:22:21,573 Speaker 4: twenty bulls. People will say that he was too slow, 418 00:22:21,733 --> 00:22:25,253 Speaker 4: but they'd lost Mitchell and Ravendra and then Young for 419 00:22:25,333 --> 00:22:28,733 Speaker 4: twenty two, so it was not you know, he has 420 00:22:28,813 --> 00:22:30,773 Speaker 4: to be the builder and no one does it better 421 00:22:30,813 --> 00:22:34,133 Speaker 4: than he does at three. But somehow they've got to 422 00:22:34,173 --> 00:22:37,213 Speaker 4: get away to a better start where he's not coming 423 00:22:37,253 --> 00:22:39,813 Speaker 4: in and you know, ideally in the first ten overs 424 00:22:39,893 --> 00:22:42,053 Speaker 4: or so. The other thing I thought with the New 425 00:22:42,133 --> 00:22:45,653 Speaker 4: Zealand batters in Dubai was that I just felt they 426 00:22:45,653 --> 00:22:48,453 Speaker 4: were a bit too creaspound against the Indian spinners. I know, 427 00:22:48,493 --> 00:22:50,973 Speaker 4: we saw Williamson getting stumped when he came down the 428 00:22:51,013 --> 00:22:55,493 Speaker 4: pitch to Axa Pattel, but that was late in the innings. 429 00:22:55,853 --> 00:22:57,533 Speaker 4: You know, there were a lot there were what one 430 00:22:57,653 --> 00:23:01,173 Speaker 4: two four LB's in the middle order for New Zealand 431 00:23:01,213 --> 00:23:04,213 Speaker 4: with the batters being pretty creasbound to the Indian spinners, 432 00:23:04,773 --> 00:23:07,053 Speaker 4: and I just think at times they're going to have 433 00:23:07,093 --> 00:23:09,893 Speaker 4: to with the low bounce so on, particularly in Dubai. 434 00:23:10,213 --> 00:23:12,213 Speaker 4: I'd like to see them using their feet and trying 435 00:23:12,253 --> 00:23:14,333 Speaker 4: to change things up a bit more and getting to 436 00:23:14,453 --> 00:23:14,773 Speaker 4: the ball. 437 00:23:15,853 --> 00:23:18,253 Speaker 2: Yep, Well, we've got to get to Dubai first of all, 438 00:23:18,293 --> 00:23:23,693 Speaker 2: though it is Lahore and I think we're unanimous that 439 00:23:23,733 --> 00:23:26,573 Speaker 2: New Zealand is capable of beating South Africa, but we 440 00:23:26,733 --> 00:23:29,533 Speaker 2: know how tough they are going to be. We've got 441 00:23:29,573 --> 00:23:31,333 Speaker 2: to try and play on the fact that they struggle 442 00:23:31,333 --> 00:23:34,733 Speaker 2: when it comes to these kinds of games South Africa, 443 00:23:34,773 --> 00:23:37,653 Speaker 2: don't they. They don't win too many tournaments when they 444 00:23:37,653 --> 00:23:39,573 Speaker 2: get past the round robin stage. 445 00:23:40,013 --> 00:23:44,373 Speaker 3: Both teams have probably been playing effectively. South Africa haven't 446 00:23:44,413 --> 00:23:46,973 Speaker 3: played too many games, have they. They've got it rained 447 00:23:46,973 --> 00:23:52,933 Speaker 3: off at one stage and they beat England very very convincingly. Aside. 448 00:23:53,653 --> 00:23:57,053 Speaker 3: I mean, England at the moment really can't work out 449 00:23:57,093 --> 00:24:00,333 Speaker 3: the fifty over format for some reason, and it seems 450 00:24:00,333 --> 00:24:02,573 Speaker 3: to me they need to know the value of a wicket. 451 00:24:03,093 --> 00:24:06,013 Speaker 3: The longer the game is in the duration of a game, 452 00:24:06,013 --> 00:24:09,533 Speaker 3: the more important the wicket becomes. They throw theirs away, 453 00:24:09,573 --> 00:24:14,693 Speaker 3: willy nilly, and so you know, South Africa. South Africa, 454 00:24:14,773 --> 00:24:18,173 Speaker 3: if they have a good day, will push us. But 455 00:24:18,293 --> 00:24:21,413 Speaker 3: we are an effective side and we must find a 456 00:24:21,453 --> 00:24:25,253 Speaker 3: way to put them under pressure so they feel they 457 00:24:25,293 --> 00:24:28,653 Speaker 3: feel as if they have to do something special to 458 00:24:28,733 --> 00:24:31,213 Speaker 3: beat us now, whether that's with the bat, and we 459 00:24:31,253 --> 00:24:35,013 Speaker 3: get three hundred and fifty which will force them to 460 00:24:35,053 --> 00:24:38,853 Speaker 3: pray freely, and if we can pick up some wickets 461 00:24:38,853 --> 00:24:43,333 Speaker 3: then and keep pinning them back, pinning them back, especially 462 00:24:43,373 --> 00:24:47,613 Speaker 3: those big hitters, and we stop the Vanderdussen's and the 463 00:24:47,653 --> 00:24:52,653 Speaker 3: Markroms and the Rickletons getting a good start and carrying 464 00:24:52,733 --> 00:24:56,813 Speaker 3: on and the others can join them. So we've got 465 00:24:56,853 --> 00:25:00,093 Speaker 3: a really it's going to be a very interesting match, 466 00:25:00,173 --> 00:25:03,933 Speaker 3: I think. But they've really probably don't only going to 467 00:25:03,973 --> 00:25:06,453 Speaker 3: have one spinner, so the spinners shouldn't worry. It's going 468 00:25:06,493 --> 00:25:10,373 Speaker 3: to be a very different surface. I think just things 469 00:25:10,453 --> 00:25:14,973 Speaker 3: return as they were before. And I think that New 470 00:25:15,053 --> 00:25:18,853 Speaker 3: Zealanders they play strongly and effectively as we know they can. 471 00:25:18,893 --> 00:25:22,213 Speaker 3: They hold their catches where them with the chants. 472 00:25:22,853 --> 00:25:25,853 Speaker 4: Yep, I can't agree more. And I think I mean 473 00:25:25,853 --> 00:25:28,253 Speaker 4: the thing with South Africa, like so many sides, I 474 00:25:28,293 --> 00:25:31,253 Speaker 4: think with their background and always having in the back 475 00:25:31,293 --> 00:25:35,293 Speaker 4: of their mind their tournament record in the last twenty 476 00:25:35,333 --> 00:25:39,613 Speaker 4: five thirty years or so, I think you've got to 477 00:25:39,613 --> 00:25:41,453 Speaker 4: get them under a little bit of pressure early on 478 00:25:41,613 --> 00:25:43,493 Speaker 4: and if you can get them under pressure early on, 479 00:25:43,533 --> 00:25:45,893 Speaker 4: then I think that will play to New Zealand's advantage. 480 00:25:46,053 --> 00:25:51,693 Speaker 4: They're dangerous, as Jerry says, Reckleton and vander Dusson both 481 00:25:52,293 --> 00:25:55,053 Speaker 4: in the leading run scorers in the tournament and both 482 00:25:55,093 --> 00:25:59,253 Speaker 4: scoring at a fair old clip, you know, around one 483 00:25:59,333 --> 00:26:02,773 Speaker 4: hundred strike rate and one hundred and twenty for vander Dusson. 484 00:26:03,293 --> 00:26:05,613 Speaker 4: That's very good in the fifty over games. So they're 485 00:26:05,653 --> 00:26:08,853 Speaker 4: dangerous players. And then I think, you know, we look 486 00:26:08,853 --> 00:26:13,653 Speaker 4: at their attack and we know about Jansen, Ravada and 487 00:26:13,693 --> 00:26:16,893 Speaker 4: Gidi and Maharaj. As you say, Jerry is a very 488 00:26:16,973 --> 00:26:20,813 Speaker 4: underrated spinner, a top class performer. So they're a good side. 489 00:26:21,613 --> 00:26:24,293 Speaker 4: Get them under pressure early is I'm sure what New 490 00:26:24,373 --> 00:26:26,933 Speaker 4: Zealand will be trying to do and take the game 491 00:26:26,933 --> 00:26:27,613 Speaker 4: away from them. 492 00:26:28,173 --> 00:26:31,853 Speaker 3: Yeah, well they haven't been gas, have they. They played 493 00:26:31,893 --> 00:26:36,653 Speaker 3: Afghanistan first, which is quite useful for them, yep, before 494 00:26:36,773 --> 00:26:41,253 Speaker 3: Afghanistan could get into the tournament. Then they and they 495 00:26:41,293 --> 00:26:44,413 Speaker 3: sup them really and then they did exactly the same 496 00:26:44,453 --> 00:26:46,693 Speaker 3: to England and then they played half a game against 497 00:26:46,733 --> 00:26:51,853 Speaker 3: Australia and Australia were actually quite well ahead of South Africa, 498 00:26:52,333 --> 00:26:57,493 Speaker 3: but then it rained so they haven't really been under 499 00:26:57,533 --> 00:27:01,333 Speaker 3: pressure too much, and that's what our job will be, 500 00:27:02,253 --> 00:27:04,693 Speaker 3: whether it's the bowler or whether it's the batting. 501 00:27:05,853 --> 00:27:08,893 Speaker 4: I agree, and I think the one thing South Africa's 502 00:27:08,933 --> 00:27:12,213 Speaker 4: advantage of those three games that you mentioned, Jerry, I 503 00:27:12,253 --> 00:27:15,773 Speaker 4: thought that their performance against England was emphatic chasing runs 504 00:27:17,013 --> 00:27:19,133 Speaker 4: and they did it very well, playing with the sort 505 00:27:19,173 --> 00:27:21,533 Speaker 4: of freedom that we haven't seen South Africa playing with 506 00:27:21,613 --> 00:27:25,133 Speaker 4: at the time. So like you both, I think it 507 00:27:25,173 --> 00:27:27,133 Speaker 4: should be a fantastic game very much. 508 00:27:27,533 --> 00:27:32,133 Speaker 2: They were under no pressure against England, were they. 509 00:27:31,533 --> 00:27:33,453 Speaker 4: They still had to win it because I suppose it 510 00:27:33,573 --> 00:27:37,013 Speaker 4: was the offside chance that Afghanistan could have beaten Australia, 511 00:27:37,093 --> 00:27:38,013 Speaker 4: but very unlikely. 512 00:27:38,813 --> 00:27:42,013 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was always a possibility post Bortum on the 513 00:27:42,253 --> 00:27:44,973 Speaker 2: semi final, in the final and an ex edition of 514 00:27:45,173 --> 00:27:45,493 Speaker 2: on the. 515 00:27:45,453 --> 00:27:49,813 Speaker 1: Front Foot Brian Waddle Jeremy Coney on the Front Foot. 516 00:27:50,133 --> 00:27:52,373 Speaker 2: One of the issues that cricket is going to have 517 00:27:52,413 --> 00:27:55,653 Speaker 2: to face, particularly in New Zealand in the near future 518 00:27:55,693 --> 00:27:58,813 Speaker 2: and is causing a few issues at the moment. I've 519 00:27:58,853 --> 00:28:03,573 Speaker 2: heard from unnamed players who I can't reveal that there 520 00:28:03,573 --> 00:28:08,013 Speaker 2: are contract issues with New Zealand Cricket that New Zealand 521 00:28:08,013 --> 00:28:12,973 Speaker 2: Cricket of the Players Association in the process of arranging 522 00:28:13,453 --> 00:28:20,053 Speaker 2: some mediation over issues. Mediation means solicitors and lawyers garth, 523 00:28:20,253 --> 00:28:27,173 Speaker 2: which means money and you know, yeah, you don't get 524 00:28:27,213 --> 00:28:32,613 Speaker 2: to that stage without some major issue. I hope it's 525 00:28:32,653 --> 00:28:34,693 Speaker 2: not putting in you to a difficult situation whether you're 526 00:28:34,693 --> 00:28:38,013 Speaker 2: handling contracts for any of the players. But it is 527 00:28:38,053 --> 00:28:41,813 Speaker 2: a worry and it's brought to mind that Amelia cur 528 00:28:42,373 --> 00:28:46,613 Speaker 2: is not available for the series against Sri Lanka Whent. 529 00:28:46,653 --> 00:28:49,413 Speaker 2: To my mind, she is the captain and waiting. She's 530 00:28:49,493 --> 00:28:52,853 Speaker 2: New Zealand women's best player and yet she's off playing 531 00:28:52,893 --> 00:28:55,613 Speaker 2: the women's IPL Yet she has a contract with New 532 00:28:55,693 --> 00:28:57,013 Speaker 2: Zealand Cricket. Is that right? 533 00:28:57,853 --> 00:29:00,333 Speaker 4: No, it's not. I mean, but again, I think it's 534 00:29:00,333 --> 00:29:03,213 Speaker 4: going to be the risk for an organization like New 535 00:29:03,293 --> 00:29:06,973 Speaker 4: Zealand Cricket as we know is that And I'm sure 536 00:29:06,973 --> 00:29:09,373 Speaker 4: Amelia Ker loves playing for New Zealand. I agree with 537 00:29:09,413 --> 00:29:11,453 Speaker 4: you that she's the captain in waiting. I suppose the 538 00:29:11,533 --> 00:29:15,933 Speaker 4: riskers that they if they can't find a way to 539 00:29:16,453 --> 00:29:20,013 Speaker 4: have some form of compromise, then the choice becomes one 540 00:29:20,013 --> 00:29:22,613 Speaker 4: of income and I'm afraid I don't think New Zealand's 541 00:29:22,613 --> 00:29:24,373 Speaker 4: going to win that battle with the sort of money 542 00:29:24,693 --> 00:29:26,653 Speaker 4: that some of the players can make around the world. 543 00:29:26,733 --> 00:29:27,853 Speaker 4: That's a difficulty with it. 544 00:29:28,613 --> 00:29:28,813 Speaker 6: You know. 545 00:29:28,853 --> 00:29:32,293 Speaker 4: I think New Zealand struggled to handle the Bolt situation 546 00:29:32,493 --> 00:29:36,053 Speaker 4: particularly well. You know, they brought him back occasionally when 547 00:29:36,093 --> 00:29:39,013 Speaker 4: they wanted him, but I felt that it didn't It 548 00:29:39,013 --> 00:29:43,573 Speaker 4: didn't work either way. It didn't feel good, useful fear, 549 00:29:44,493 --> 00:29:47,453 Speaker 4: and of course the players who are in waiting and 550 00:29:47,493 --> 00:29:49,973 Speaker 4: watching those players not playing for New Zealand being brought back. 551 00:29:49,973 --> 00:29:52,933 Speaker 4: It causes an awful lot of issues. So I'm no, 552 00:29:52,973 --> 00:29:56,933 Speaker 4: I'm not privy to any of those negotiations, but it's 553 00:29:56,933 --> 00:29:59,493 Speaker 4: a difficult road to walk down and the balance is 554 00:29:59,533 --> 00:29:59,973 Speaker 4: not easy. 555 00:30:01,253 --> 00:30:03,613 Speaker 3: Garth, did you say that a Melia Occurre does not 556 00:30:03,773 --> 00:30:05,813 Speaker 3: have a contract with New Zealand Cricket. 557 00:30:06,093 --> 00:30:08,093 Speaker 2: She does have, Yes, she does. 558 00:30:08,373 --> 00:30:10,813 Speaker 4: Now what I said is that, you know, eventually, if 559 00:30:10,853 --> 00:30:13,093 Speaker 4: you can't reach a compromise, then players have to make 560 00:30:13,133 --> 00:30:14,773 Speaker 4: a choice based on money. That's the risk. 561 00:30:15,293 --> 00:30:20,693 Speaker 3: That's right. I would have sought after the women were 562 00:30:22,453 --> 00:30:26,573 Speaker 3: with an equity pay situation as the men, that there 563 00:30:26,613 --> 00:30:31,013 Speaker 3: would still be casual contracts as such as there are 564 00:30:31,093 --> 00:30:34,333 Speaker 3: for the men. It's quite early for a Meliaccur to 565 00:30:34,333 --> 00:30:38,893 Speaker 3: be doing that. Maybe what is she twenty six or 566 00:30:38,933 --> 00:30:39,733 Speaker 3: something like that. 567 00:30:41,173 --> 00:30:42,733 Speaker 2: Yep, pretty much around there. 568 00:30:42,773 --> 00:30:49,493 Speaker 3: But yeah, I would have sought that she you know, 569 00:30:49,933 --> 00:30:53,653 Speaker 3: she will naturally, as Gas says, go for the cash, 570 00:30:53,693 --> 00:30:56,653 Speaker 3: and she might use the excuse or as a reason. 571 00:30:57,133 --> 00:31:02,853 Speaker 3: I'm playing a slightly higher level of cricket and therefore 572 00:31:02,893 --> 00:31:05,813 Speaker 3: this is good for me to develop my game, so 573 00:31:06,013 --> 00:31:08,493 Speaker 3: when I do come back, I'll be, you know know 574 00:31:08,693 --> 00:31:12,133 Speaker 3: better for New Zealand. I mean, that might well be 575 00:31:12,493 --> 00:31:18,413 Speaker 3: along with the you know, wanting to go and play 576 00:31:18,453 --> 00:31:21,813 Speaker 3: over there and get some money some of the reasons. 577 00:31:22,053 --> 00:31:25,053 Speaker 3: But I don't think New Zealand Cricket can really allow that, 578 00:31:25,133 --> 00:31:28,533 Speaker 3: can they. She's signed a contract to be available to 579 00:31:28,573 --> 00:31:32,613 Speaker 3: play for New Zealand and their longest games are fifty 580 00:31:32,693 --> 00:31:36,893 Speaker 3: over matches, and that's what they're playing, aren't they. Aren't 581 00:31:36,893 --> 00:31:42,053 Speaker 3: they playing fifty over matches either against Sri Lanka or yeah. 582 00:31:41,653 --> 00:31:42,413 Speaker 2: So both. 583 00:31:42,693 --> 00:31:46,013 Speaker 3: I would have I mean, that's the equivalent of the 584 00:31:46,093 --> 00:31:49,053 Speaker 3: Test match for them. I would have thought she should 585 00:31:49,053 --> 00:31:52,453 Speaker 3: be available. Otherwise you don't get you you've broken your 586 00:31:52,453 --> 00:31:54,733 Speaker 3: contract Yeah. 587 00:31:54,413 --> 00:31:57,693 Speaker 2: It's an interesting scenario that, as Garth mentioned and Jerry's 588 00:31:57,693 --> 00:32:00,613 Speaker 2: mentioned also, that New Zealand Cricket is going to have 589 00:32:00,653 --> 00:32:04,613 Speaker 2: to face over a period of time. And I understand 590 00:32:04,693 --> 00:32:09,093 Speaker 2: through my sources that these issues are coming to the 591 00:32:09,133 --> 00:32:12,853 Speaker 2: four because I think the master agreement between the Players 592 00:32:13,013 --> 00:32:16,893 Speaker 2: Association and New Zealand Cricket is up for decision next year, 593 00:32:17,013 --> 00:32:20,613 Speaker 2: so that will be something interesting to look at. Finally, 594 00:32:20,613 --> 00:32:24,893 Speaker 2: this week, guys, I know you'll remember this fifty years 595 00:32:24,893 --> 00:32:27,973 Speaker 2: ago how good mate Chats was felled by a bouncer 596 00:32:28,573 --> 00:32:30,893 Speaker 2: that almost had a tragic outcome. 597 00:32:32,013 --> 00:32:34,493 Speaker 8: As a leaver coming in Barster Chatfield now or and 598 00:32:34,493 --> 00:32:36,213 Speaker 8: this one who's hit him has hit him on the head. 599 00:32:36,213 --> 00:32:38,693 Speaker 8: I think it's a bouncer bowl to Chatfield and it's 600 00:32:38,773 --> 00:32:40,253 Speaker 8: hit him on the head and he's dropped his bat 601 00:32:40,293 --> 00:32:43,093 Speaker 8: and he's staggered away a nasty delivery lifting there and 602 00:32:43,133 --> 00:32:45,173 Speaker 8: Chatfield did not know how to deal with it, and 603 00:32:45,213 --> 00:32:47,293 Speaker 8: he's collapsed on the pitch on the just to the 604 00:32:47,493 --> 00:32:49,813 Speaker 8: side of the wicket. And I think it's fear to 605 00:32:49,853 --> 00:32:52,533 Speaker 8: say it's unfortunate that Lever finds it necessary if there's 606 00:32:52,573 --> 00:32:55,373 Speaker 8: someoning help for him. He's got a nasty blow. He's 607 00:32:56,373 --> 00:32:59,253 Speaker 8: down on the ground, writhing there, and I think in 608 00:32:59,493 --> 00:33:02,413 Speaker 8: all furnace it's fear to say it's unnecessary for a 609 00:33:02,453 --> 00:33:05,293 Speaker 8: battle of lever's pace to bol that sort of delivery 610 00:33:05,293 --> 00:33:07,133 Speaker 8: at the tail end Batsman, and I don't think he 611 00:33:07,173 --> 00:33:09,493 Speaker 8: will have had a lot of friends by. But it's 612 00:33:09,493 --> 00:33:11,853 Speaker 8: an unfortunate incident, and I think that most of the 613 00:33:11,893 --> 00:33:14,613 Speaker 8: England camp are very sorry about it, and they're doing 614 00:33:14,613 --> 00:33:16,373 Speaker 8: what they can to assist chap Field who's lying on 615 00:33:16,413 --> 00:33:18,813 Speaker 8: the ground. He's he's not too good at the moment. 616 00:33:19,533 --> 00:33:20,973 Speaker 8: I just don't know how he'll get on. But he 617 00:33:21,013 --> 00:33:22,733 Speaker 8: was struck on the head there by that bulf which 618 00:33:22,893 --> 00:33:28,053 Speaker 8: lippid and I just have to see how he gets on. 619 00:33:28,093 --> 00:33:30,333 Speaker 8: But there's summoning in for the first aid. He is 620 00:33:30,453 --> 00:33:33,653 Speaker 8: very heavily coming up for the first aid kit and 621 00:33:33,933 --> 00:33:36,613 Speaker 8: Sint John's embulance and John Eblisman is out there too, 622 00:33:37,053 --> 00:33:39,893 Speaker 8: And this is a most unfortunate occurrence. I could will 623 00:33:39,933 --> 00:33:41,533 Speaker 8: put an end of the match because whether this lad 624 00:33:41,573 --> 00:33:43,573 Speaker 8: will be able to beat on, I don't know. We're 625 00:33:43,613 --> 00:33:46,733 Speaker 8: too far away from the scene here to see it. 626 00:33:46,933 --> 00:33:48,053 Speaker 8: I quite appear with your remarks. 627 00:33:48,093 --> 00:33:50,373 Speaker 5: I thought it was a viciously nasty ball to bowl. 628 00:33:50,453 --> 00:33:53,293 Speaker 5: I think it was a particularly unpleasant one. He may, 629 00:33:53,373 --> 00:33:55,173 Speaker 5: I mean, he may say he didn't intend it, but 630 00:33:55,253 --> 00:33:57,613 Speaker 5: it was exactly this sort of deliverer at a faster 631 00:33:57,693 --> 00:33:59,053 Speaker 5: pace that our tale ran back from. 632 00:33:59,053 --> 00:34:00,413 Speaker 8: We're having to cap with against. 633 00:34:00,173 --> 00:34:02,893 Speaker 5: Thompson Lily Australia, which our players were making a great 634 00:34:02,933 --> 00:34:03,413 Speaker 5: fuss about. 635 00:34:03,453 --> 00:34:04,653 Speaker 7: He did look nasty. 636 00:34:04,893 --> 00:34:07,973 Speaker 5: And Georg chapfill is obviously been surely nastily hurt by 637 00:34:08,013 --> 00:34:08,333 Speaker 5: this way. 638 00:34:08,373 --> 00:34:09,893 Speaker 8: Can see from the way he's obviously. 639 00:34:09,613 --> 00:34:12,533 Speaker 5: In great pain. And it was a I mean, we 640 00:34:12,573 --> 00:34:15,053 Speaker 5: saw earlier that he didn't like the short lifted one, 641 00:34:15,133 --> 00:34:16,933 Speaker 5: but the one out earlier I didn't think we really 642 00:34:16,933 --> 00:34:19,973 Speaker 5: bonds that. In fact, to a good batsman, that would 643 00:34:19,973 --> 00:34:21,933 Speaker 5: have been an awkward answer to avoids. It came up 644 00:34:22,053 --> 00:34:23,573 Speaker 5: from not so very much sort of a legs, didn't 645 00:34:23,573 --> 00:34:25,133 Speaker 5: the Bob Well, I think. 646 00:34:24,973 --> 00:34:28,333 Speaker 8: It's really hurt him. He's we don't want to say 647 00:34:28,453 --> 00:34:33,013 Speaker 8: anything that Mike cause undue alarm to relatives of you 648 00:34:33,133 --> 00:34:35,253 Speaker 8: and Chatfield, but he is on the ground. He's been 649 00:34:35,293 --> 00:34:37,373 Speaker 8: attended by this and John ambulanceman, and we hope that 650 00:34:37,573 --> 00:34:39,213 Speaker 8: everything will be all right. But he got a nasty 651 00:34:39,213 --> 00:34:42,533 Speaker 8: player there and it's shaken him pretty badly. I think 652 00:34:42,613 --> 00:34:44,253 Speaker 8: you will find that this will be the end of 653 00:34:44,293 --> 00:34:46,653 Speaker 8: the Test match and probably are very unfortunately end. 654 00:34:47,413 --> 00:34:51,013 Speaker 2: And mate Ellen Richards definitely got on the front foot 655 00:34:51,173 --> 00:34:53,653 Speaker 2: in dealing with that. You don't need the bob bounces 656 00:34:53,733 --> 00:34:57,293 Speaker 2: to what tail enders. But it was pretty sad at 657 00:34:57,333 --> 00:34:58,893 Speaker 2: the time, wasn't it. 658 00:34:58,893 --> 00:35:01,733 Speaker 3: It was Chet's It was the last day of that 659 00:35:01,773 --> 00:35:05,973 Speaker 3: match against England. Chats had bettered for about twenty to 660 00:35:06,013 --> 00:35:10,453 Speaker 3: thirty minutes in the morning with Jeff Howarth. He kind 661 00:35:10,453 --> 00:35:12,533 Speaker 3: of leave a telegraph that they bought a man in 662 00:35:12,573 --> 00:35:15,173 Speaker 3: a batpan and they put someone in two gullies and 663 00:35:15,213 --> 00:35:18,533 Speaker 3: that sort of thing. That became quite clear. No mid off, 664 00:35:18,653 --> 00:35:24,973 Speaker 3: no med on nineteen seventy five, no helmets. It was 665 00:35:25,053 --> 00:35:27,813 Speaker 3: lucky it actually, I think it neither hit his gloves 666 00:35:27,853 --> 00:35:29,893 Speaker 3: on the handle of the bat from the hand of 667 00:35:29,973 --> 00:35:32,773 Speaker 3: the bat, and then he swallowed his tongue as it 668 00:35:32,853 --> 00:35:35,493 Speaker 3: hit him in the head, and then he was not 669 00:35:35,653 --> 00:35:38,933 Speaker 3: done conscious and the Zambuts rushed out, as Alan Richards 670 00:35:38,933 --> 00:35:41,573 Speaker 3: told us, and didn't know quite what to do and 671 00:35:41,613 --> 00:35:48,253 Speaker 3: went away again. And then luckily the England physiotherapist Bernard Thomas, 672 00:35:48,333 --> 00:35:54,613 Speaker 3: little Shortfellar came racing out and he checked Chats's mouth 673 00:35:55,493 --> 00:35:57,573 Speaker 3: and that he didn't have any chewing gum in it, 674 00:35:58,613 --> 00:36:01,093 Speaker 3: and that would know that if he had swallowed it. 675 00:36:01,733 --> 00:36:05,973 Speaker 3: And then they gave him mouth to mouth and he 676 00:36:06,093 --> 00:36:09,853 Speaker 3: came round again. Peter Leber was back down halfway down 677 00:36:09,893 --> 00:36:12,933 Speaker 3: the pitch, kneeling. All the rest of the English players 678 00:36:12,973 --> 00:36:15,453 Speaker 3: didn't know what the hell to do. They could hear 679 00:36:15,533 --> 00:36:22,373 Speaker 3: chat sort of semi choking, and so anyway he saved him. 680 00:36:22,653 --> 00:36:25,133 Speaker 3: That was the end of the test matches. Alan mentioned 681 00:36:25,893 --> 00:36:34,413 Speaker 3: and he was overnight in hospital. Leva went to see him. 682 00:36:34,453 --> 00:36:37,653 Speaker 3: But yeah, it was unpleasant that those things have happened before. 683 00:36:38,373 --> 00:36:40,973 Speaker 3: I mean it happened to us in nineteen eighty. We 684 00:36:40,973 --> 00:36:43,653 Speaker 3: were doing the bowling and there was a guy in 685 00:36:43,733 --> 00:36:47,333 Speaker 3: Ossie that was at the mcg out came their number eleven. 686 00:36:47,373 --> 00:36:51,933 Speaker 3: Jim Higgs batted for about half an hour, supported Doug Walters, 687 00:36:52,813 --> 00:36:56,493 Speaker 3: and he was helmeted in that case, and he had 688 00:36:56,493 --> 00:36:59,213 Speaker 3: gloves and he had armed guarden. He was protected in 689 00:36:59,293 --> 00:37:05,333 Speaker 3: other words. And larce Ken's, that fiery, fiery bowler, came 690 00:37:05,373 --> 00:37:08,533 Speaker 3: in and bold him a horrible little loose bounce so 691 00:37:08,573 --> 00:37:13,133 Speaker 3: with an old ball, and he raised his hands up 692 00:37:13,213 --> 00:37:15,813 Speaker 3: round his face, got the edge through the wally leeds 693 00:37:15,853 --> 00:37:18,893 Speaker 3: and was still awake, and he was dismissed that we 694 00:37:18,893 --> 00:37:22,813 Speaker 3: were all walking off and that stage Robin Bailash said, 695 00:37:23,213 --> 00:37:26,493 Speaker 3: that's a no ball. That is illegal. You can't bounce 696 00:37:26,493 --> 00:37:31,333 Speaker 3: the number eleven. And so unfortunately we had to go 697 00:37:31,413 --> 00:37:34,373 Speaker 3: back out there again for another forty five runs, and 698 00:37:34,413 --> 00:37:36,973 Speaker 3: it meant instead of chasing one hundred and fifty on 699 00:37:37,013 --> 00:37:39,733 Speaker 3: a very low deck, we chased one hundred and ninety 700 00:37:40,253 --> 00:37:42,533 Speaker 3: and we ended up about one hundred and thirty for six. 701 00:37:43,173 --> 00:37:45,693 Speaker 3: We probably would have won the game with the extra time. 702 00:37:46,853 --> 00:37:51,053 Speaker 3: So I mean it's happened before. Yep, and don'quiet Jarvid 703 00:37:51,173 --> 00:37:53,293 Speaker 3: used to do it down in eighty five, down and 704 00:37:53,733 --> 00:37:56,853 Speaker 3: down at Kara's Brook to the chats as well, and 705 00:37:56,973 --> 00:37:58,693 Speaker 3: old Fred got involved. 706 00:37:59,133 --> 00:38:02,853 Speaker 2: Yeah, and chats played and Eyning's that won us a 707 00:38:02,893 --> 00:38:05,813 Speaker 2: Test and oh you got a few runs, he chats 708 00:38:05,853 --> 00:38:07,173 Speaker 2: one as the Test. 709 00:38:07,133 --> 00:38:08,133 Speaker 3: Chats did it for us. 710 00:38:08,813 --> 00:38:09,093 Speaker 8: Well, I. 711 00:38:10,973 --> 00:38:13,453 Speaker 4: Was a kid listening to the Higgs one. Well I'm 712 00:38:13,493 --> 00:38:16,213 Speaker 4: not a kid, but I was younger obviously than I 713 00:38:16,253 --> 00:38:20,293 Speaker 4: am now, and I remember listening to it in absolute horror, 714 00:38:20,813 --> 00:38:24,013 Speaker 4: and the Australian radio commentators were aghast as well with 715 00:38:24,093 --> 00:38:28,533 Speaker 4: the umpiring. But the Australian umpiring has never been known 716 00:38:28,613 --> 00:38:33,133 Speaker 4: for being fair, one of the good reasons that independent 717 00:38:33,253 --> 00:38:35,453 Speaker 4: umpires were brought into the game. But I'm laughing listening 718 00:38:35,533 --> 00:38:39,613 Speaker 4: to the story about Chats and so eloquently told by 719 00:38:39,733 --> 00:38:43,453 Speaker 4: Jerry and Alan Richards, because of course Chats was also 720 00:38:43,653 --> 00:38:46,053 Speaker 4: you remember in seventy eight he was a part of 721 00:38:46,093 --> 00:38:50,213 Speaker 4: that controversial dismissal of Derek Randall when he man canted 722 00:38:50,333 --> 00:38:52,173 Speaker 4: him only the third time it had been done in 723 00:38:52,213 --> 00:38:55,333 Speaker 4: test cricket at Lancaster Park. And I was watching at 724 00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:57,773 Speaker 4: that stage and listening with Dad, and you would have 725 00:38:57,813 --> 00:39:02,253 Speaker 4: been there, wadds I think. But Alan Richards was on air, 726 00:39:02,573 --> 00:39:06,973 Speaker 4: and you know he had a strong sense of dismay 727 00:39:07,093 --> 00:39:09,453 Speaker 4: and could venture his gust at times he had to 728 00:39:09,493 --> 00:39:12,213 Speaker 4: take the the air thing out from listening to the races. 729 00:39:12,773 --> 00:39:17,293 Speaker 4: But he expressed as absolute disgust at what had occur. 730 00:39:17,853 --> 00:39:18,413 Speaker 7: And I was. 731 00:39:18,373 --> 00:39:21,653 Speaker 4: Reading about it recently and Chatfield said, look, I don't 732 00:39:21,693 --> 00:39:24,213 Speaker 4: think I'm on both of them's Christmas card list. But 733 00:39:24,373 --> 00:39:28,253 Speaker 4: to tie the two stories together, I've heard it reported 734 00:39:28,653 --> 00:39:31,213 Speaker 4: I suspect it's not true, but it's a good story 735 00:39:31,933 --> 00:39:33,773 Speaker 4: that both of them said to him, you nearly died 736 00:39:33,813 --> 00:39:35,853 Speaker 4: on a cricket field once, and who knows what could 737 00:39:35,853 --> 00:39:36,493 Speaker 4: happen again. 738 00:39:38,853 --> 00:39:42,493 Speaker 2: Yeah, as it was, but a memory that we have 739 00:39:42,933 --> 00:39:47,253 Speaker 2: from fifty years ago. Thanks guys for your contribution again, 740 00:39:47,613 --> 00:39:54,373 Speaker 2: I hope for our wins the semi or thanks Johnny's Chairs. 741 00:39:54,813 --> 00:39:57,373 Speaker 3: Guys. 742 00:40:03,693 --> 00:40:06,333 Speaker 1: For more from news Talk said B listen live on 743 00:40:06,413 --> 00:40:09,373 Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever 744 00:40:09,413 --> 00:40:12,013 Speaker 1: you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio