1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from newstalk ZEDB. 3 00:00:12,867 --> 00:00:16,667 Speaker 2: Mowana Pacifica have claimed the biggest upset of the Super 4 00:00:16,747 --> 00:00:24,227 Speaker 2: Rugby season so far. Mowana magnificence a miraculate march for 5 00:00:24,427 --> 00:00:30,067 Speaker 2: Tano Mugger's been for the first time they beat the Crusaders, 6 00:00:30,347 --> 00:00:34,147 Speaker 2: a famous forty five twenty nine win over the Crusaders 7 00:00:34,227 --> 00:00:38,427 Speaker 2: in christ Church. Inspirational captain Ardie Savia led the way, 8 00:00:38,507 --> 00:00:41,867 Speaker 2: scoring the first two Mowana tries as they claimed their 9 00:00:41,907 --> 00:00:45,267 Speaker 2: second win of the campaign. It was also the second 10 00:00:45,387 --> 00:00:49,507 Speaker 2: most points the Crusaders have ever conceded in christ Church, 11 00:00:49,867 --> 00:00:53,707 Speaker 2: surpassed only by the forty nine the Blues put on 12 00:00:53,747 --> 00:00:57,507 Speaker 2: them in Super Rugby's very first season back in nineteen 13 00:00:57,827 --> 00:01:01,507 Speaker 2: ninety six. Moana Pacifica coach Tana Umanga is with us 14 00:01:01,587 --> 00:01:04,667 Speaker 2: Tana thanks for taking the time in general terms. First 15 00:01:04,707 --> 00:01:07,467 Speaker 2: of all, how special a win is this for you 16 00:01:07,547 --> 00:01:09,867 Speaker 2: and for your team? 17 00:01:10,067 --> 00:01:14,427 Speaker 3: Oh? Very special. I suppose anyone's a special win. But 18 00:01:14,467 --> 00:01:17,867 Speaker 3: when you come down here and you know to christ 19 00:01:17,987 --> 00:01:23,507 Speaker 3: Church and you play against the team that's obviously formidable 20 00:01:23,547 --> 00:01:25,747 Speaker 3: at home and you know that they're one of the 21 00:01:25,787 --> 00:01:30,347 Speaker 3: form teams. Yeah, you know, it is very special to 22 00:01:30,387 --> 00:01:33,707 Speaker 3: do that, so you know, very proud of the group 23 00:01:34,827 --> 00:01:36,467 Speaker 3: and also you know the ones that came down here, 24 00:01:36,507 --> 00:01:38,227 Speaker 3: but also the ones at home, you know that help 25 00:01:38,307 --> 00:01:41,787 Speaker 3: us prepare for You know, what was our best performance 26 00:01:41,787 --> 00:01:42,187 Speaker 3: of the year? 27 00:01:42,987 --> 00:01:48,347 Speaker 2: Was this the eighty minute performance you've been looking for 28 00:01:48,347 --> 00:01:48,787 Speaker 2: for sure? 29 00:01:48,987 --> 00:01:53,267 Speaker 3: You know, you know we've been good at patches as 30 00:01:53,267 --> 00:01:59,667 Speaker 3: we've seen, and uh, you know it was probably you know, 31 00:02:01,147 --> 00:02:02,987 Speaker 3: we don't want to get too far in front of 32 00:02:02,987 --> 00:02:06,107 Speaker 3: ourselves here, Jason, but you know, there's obviously still things 33 00:02:06,107 --> 00:02:08,467 Speaker 3: to work, but no, you know this is probably, you 34 00:02:08,667 --> 00:02:12,827 Speaker 3: probably our best performance since I've been here, and we 35 00:02:12,907 --> 00:02:15,307 Speaker 3: know we've we've got more on us and we know 36 00:02:15,347 --> 00:02:17,067 Speaker 3: we have to have more on us because we can't 37 00:02:17,107 --> 00:02:19,947 Speaker 3: just rely on this one game. But you know, we 38 00:02:20,027 --> 00:02:23,547 Speaker 3: enjoyed our our performance and our win last night and 39 00:02:24,587 --> 00:02:27,467 Speaker 3: now we're already you know, as you do in this competition, 40 00:02:27,587 --> 00:02:30,707 Speaker 3: you can't can't keep thinking about what's in the past. 41 00:02:30,707 --> 00:02:32,387 Speaker 3: You've got to move forward and you know we need 42 00:02:32,427 --> 00:02:33,107 Speaker 3: to do that now. 43 00:02:33,827 --> 00:02:36,347 Speaker 2: How hard tin of have you worked at blending the 44 00:02:36,427 --> 00:02:39,307 Speaker 2: traditional style of Pacifica rugby, which we all love to 45 00:02:39,347 --> 00:02:42,427 Speaker 2: watch with a work right and a structure that's needed 46 00:02:42,427 --> 00:02:43,987 Speaker 2: to consistently win matches. 47 00:02:47,827 --> 00:02:54,427 Speaker 3: Well probably since we've got here, and I'm sure, yeah, 48 00:02:54,667 --> 00:02:59,467 Speaker 3: look at and that's the thing. You know, we know 49 00:02:59,507 --> 00:03:01,627 Speaker 3: we can play the game, we know we're exciting to watch, 50 00:03:01,667 --> 00:03:05,787 Speaker 3: and traditionally that's in us, but we also know with 51 00:03:05,947 --> 00:03:08,507 Speaker 3: the coach group and the playing group and the leadership 52 00:03:08,507 --> 00:03:11,187 Speaker 3: that we have, that we can't just rely on that 53 00:03:11,227 --> 00:03:14,547 Speaker 3: to win games. And we want to be more than 54 00:03:14,667 --> 00:03:18,547 Speaker 3: just a team that everyone loves watching and a highlight 55 00:03:18,627 --> 00:03:21,347 Speaker 3: real team. We want to be a team that is 56 00:03:21,387 --> 00:03:25,307 Speaker 3: consistent and can put out performances that people are proud of, 57 00:03:25,467 --> 00:03:27,907 Speaker 3: not losing sight of who we are and what we 58 00:03:27,987 --> 00:03:30,107 Speaker 3: can do. And we know we've got that, but we 59 00:03:30,187 --> 00:03:32,947 Speaker 3: want to show exactly what you talked about around our 60 00:03:32,987 --> 00:03:37,307 Speaker 3: work creating those effort areas and also you know, the 61 00:03:37,387 --> 00:03:41,107 Speaker 3: detail around what good teams do to win games, and 62 00:03:41,147 --> 00:03:42,747 Speaker 3: I think you know you saw a bit of that 63 00:03:42,827 --> 00:03:45,187 Speaker 3: last night, and it's great to hear people talk around 64 00:03:45,227 --> 00:03:48,587 Speaker 3: our work cred not just the flair that we naturally 65 00:03:48,587 --> 00:03:49,547 Speaker 3: bring to games. 66 00:03:49,987 --> 00:03:53,107 Speaker 2: And so in that way, then will last night become 67 00:03:53,467 --> 00:03:56,107 Speaker 2: something of a blueprint for you? Will it be something 68 00:03:56,147 --> 00:03:58,467 Speaker 2: you can you know, you can reference with your team 69 00:03:58,507 --> 00:04:00,667 Speaker 2: as you look for more performances. 70 00:04:00,147 --> 00:04:07,107 Speaker 3: Like this, exactly exactly, it's you know, we've had that 71 00:04:07,187 --> 00:04:11,827 Speaker 3: blueprint for a while, as you know, putting that plan 72 00:04:11,867 --> 00:04:16,947 Speaker 3: in place, adhering to the plan, trusting the plan, and 73 00:04:17,907 --> 00:04:21,227 Speaker 3: you know, just you know, for us, it's combining the 74 00:04:21,307 --> 00:04:23,947 Speaker 3: emotion we have and all that energy that we want 75 00:04:23,987 --> 00:04:26,987 Speaker 3: to do well and understanding that you know, we do 76 00:04:27,107 --> 00:04:30,747 Speaker 3: this for a bigger purpose than just ourselves as a group. 77 00:04:31,547 --> 00:04:34,347 Speaker 3: But we've got to channel that energy somewhere and channel 78 00:04:35,267 --> 00:04:40,467 Speaker 3: channel it in a way that you know, we're all 79 00:04:40,507 --> 00:04:43,067 Speaker 3: doing it, all doing it for the same reason. And 80 00:04:44,107 --> 00:04:46,227 Speaker 3: you know, as we see were singing office the same 81 00:04:46,307 --> 00:04:50,227 Speaker 3: hymn sheet, because we know when we do that, when 82 00:04:50,267 --> 00:04:52,267 Speaker 3: we channel that energy in the right places at the 83 00:04:52,307 --> 00:04:56,067 Speaker 3: right times and as a collective, then you know, we 84 00:04:56,107 --> 00:04:58,307 Speaker 3: know we can get more more results like we did 85 00:04:58,387 --> 00:04:58,867 Speaker 3: last night. 86 00:04:59,467 --> 00:05:01,507 Speaker 2: Early in the second half, you were thirty one ten 87 00:05:01,907 --> 00:05:03,987 Speaker 2: ahead and then a couple of tries to the Crusaders 88 00:05:04,027 --> 00:05:06,707 Speaker 2: scott them more than nine. What would the conversation you 89 00:05:06,747 --> 00:05:09,507 Speaker 2: were having when they got back to within nine points 90 00:05:09,587 --> 00:05:11,307 Speaker 2: was still want about twenty five minutes to go. 91 00:05:12,707 --> 00:05:15,387 Speaker 3: Oh, those are the big moments for us. There was 92 00:05:15,427 --> 00:05:17,587 Speaker 3: a huge moment for us, and it took me to 93 00:05:18,267 --> 00:05:21,587 Speaker 3: skip Ardi. You know, he said, those are the moments 94 00:05:21,627 --> 00:05:25,107 Speaker 3: that that you know, the boys stood up again. It's 95 00:05:25,187 --> 00:05:28,707 Speaker 3: around uniting us around what we were going to go 96 00:05:28,747 --> 00:05:31,947 Speaker 3: to next, and that that's something that we've worked on 97 00:05:32,067 --> 00:05:35,307 Speaker 3: from especially from the last game. Is that coming together 98 00:05:35,347 --> 00:05:39,467 Speaker 3: in those moments, you know, and understanding that we know 99 00:05:39,547 --> 00:05:42,107 Speaker 3: what to do, you know, have faith, a trust the 100 00:05:42,187 --> 00:05:46,787 Speaker 3: plan and you know, just go back to doing what 101 00:05:46,827 --> 00:05:49,787 Speaker 3: we were doing and not not lose faith in that. 102 00:05:51,187 --> 00:05:52,987 Speaker 3: And I think that was probably a turning point for 103 00:05:53,067 --> 00:05:55,187 Speaker 3: us in a bit and a big part of our growth, 104 00:05:55,907 --> 00:05:59,627 Speaker 3: especially from last week. It was you know, swinging that 105 00:05:59,747 --> 00:06:03,547 Speaker 3: momentum because it was turned against us when we had 106 00:06:03,587 --> 00:06:06,267 Speaker 3: it all and obviously we know what it feels like 107 00:06:06,427 --> 00:06:09,787 Speaker 3: when we let that momentum keep going to it and 108 00:06:09,867 --> 00:06:12,707 Speaker 3: giving that to the opposition teams. But again, you know, 109 00:06:13,147 --> 00:06:15,587 Speaker 3: our leaders stepped up. The players understood and we've been 110 00:06:15,627 --> 00:06:17,787 Speaker 3: ever before, but now we want to change this. And 111 00:06:18,547 --> 00:06:20,467 Speaker 3: you know, full credit to them, they. 112 00:06:20,307 --> 00:06:23,187 Speaker 2: Did a lot of players caught the eye last night. 113 00:06:23,187 --> 00:06:25,787 Speaker 2: I just want to ask you about Patrick Pellegrini. What 114 00:06:25,827 --> 00:06:27,347 Speaker 2: have you seen in him? How proud have you been 115 00:06:27,387 --> 00:06:30,227 Speaker 2: of his growth and his I get you he works, 116 00:06:30,387 --> 00:06:33,467 Speaker 2: I'm sure closely with Jackson Garden bashup inside your playing group. 117 00:06:33,467 --> 00:06:36,147 Speaker 2: But what have you made of of Patrick Pellegrini's introduction 118 00:06:36,227 --> 00:06:37,067 Speaker 2: to Super rugby. 119 00:06:38,267 --> 00:06:42,387 Speaker 3: Obviously he's you know, he's really taken to it. He's 120 00:06:42,427 --> 00:06:44,987 Speaker 3: done everything that was after him from the preseason to now. 121 00:06:45,027 --> 00:06:49,187 Speaker 3: And iously, you know we've seen him play internationals and 122 00:06:49,347 --> 00:06:52,787 Speaker 3: you know, from a guy that started in Sydney, took 123 00:06:52,827 --> 00:06:57,267 Speaker 3: a punt and you know, signed with Division three in 124 00:06:57,987 --> 00:07:02,067 Speaker 3: England and ended up playing Division two and then wanting 125 00:07:02,107 --> 00:07:04,187 Speaker 3: to come back and play and always drink about playing 126 00:07:04,227 --> 00:07:08,547 Speaker 3: Super rugby and from what we saw and obviously him 127 00:07:08,587 --> 00:07:13,147 Speaker 3: playing for Dongner infitted into what we were about. And 128 00:07:13,147 --> 00:07:15,987 Speaker 3: then he just worked. And you talk about work, but 129 00:07:16,067 --> 00:07:18,347 Speaker 3: he worked hard in the in the off season and 130 00:07:18,467 --> 00:07:22,827 Speaker 3: our preseason block. You know, he had a few things 131 00:07:22,867 --> 00:07:26,227 Speaker 3: to work on, and you know, fortunately with the backstretches 132 00:07:26,267 --> 00:07:30,867 Speaker 3: we have and Stephen Jones and Lorust Mupple, sure there's 133 00:07:30,907 --> 00:07:33,427 Speaker 3: a lot of mp saw that you know, they just 134 00:07:33,507 --> 00:07:36,667 Speaker 3: kept building his game and you can see, you know, 135 00:07:36,707 --> 00:07:38,987 Speaker 3: when someone he has the flair. You know, I think 136 00:07:39,027 --> 00:07:41,507 Speaker 3: that's the pulm side that comes out on me. He 137 00:07:41,587 --> 00:07:44,467 Speaker 3: loves he loves that side of the game, and you know, 138 00:07:44,827 --> 00:07:47,787 Speaker 3: it was the other part in terms of managing a game. 139 00:07:48,267 --> 00:07:51,587 Speaker 3: And he's learned a lot from Jackson as well. And 140 00:07:51,907 --> 00:07:55,187 Speaker 3: now you've just see that and again, you know, for 141 00:07:55,307 --> 00:07:59,907 Speaker 3: someone who's coming to Super Rugby for the first time, 142 00:07:59,987 --> 00:08:03,347 Speaker 3: you know, he's he's taking some learnings and he's he's 143 00:08:03,387 --> 00:08:05,947 Speaker 3: worked hard on his craft and now we're you know, 144 00:08:06,107 --> 00:08:09,587 Speaker 3: for him, it's the consistency. It's for him, it's you know, 145 00:08:09,627 --> 00:08:12,867 Speaker 3: obviously everyone's talking about him now and it's a lot 146 00:08:12,907 --> 00:08:14,907 Speaker 3: of our guys, you know, they're talking about them now. 147 00:08:15,027 --> 00:08:18,507 Speaker 3: Now it's you know, from talking taking on negative and 148 00:08:18,547 --> 00:08:20,387 Speaker 3: being able to block dad and it's also us just 149 00:08:20,467 --> 00:08:22,947 Speaker 3: learning from it. You know, it's the same with all 150 00:08:22,947 --> 00:08:25,187 Speaker 3: the positivity. For us, we can take confidence from it, 151 00:08:25,307 --> 00:08:27,027 Speaker 3: but you're still just going to go back and do 152 00:08:27,067 --> 00:08:30,347 Speaker 3: the job that that we need to perform for our team. 153 00:08:30,747 --> 00:08:33,387 Speaker 2: Just to finish it. It almost seems silly to ask 154 00:08:33,427 --> 00:08:37,907 Speaker 2: you to find more ways to describe Ardie Savia. I 155 00:08:37,907 --> 00:08:39,667 Speaker 2: don't know that there are too many more words couple 156 00:08:39,707 --> 00:08:42,187 Speaker 2: of tries to start you off last night. Can you 157 00:08:42,307 --> 00:08:44,747 Speaker 2: articulate what he brings to your team in any new way? 158 00:08:44,827 --> 00:08:50,147 Speaker 4: Tather Oh, I was asked the same question yesterday and 159 00:08:50,187 --> 00:08:53,427 Speaker 4: I just said, Look, it's everything that everyone says, but 160 00:08:53,467 --> 00:08:55,827 Speaker 4: I get to see it every day, just like our players. 161 00:08:57,867 --> 00:09:02,147 Speaker 3: You know, even last night after the game. It's keeping 162 00:09:02,147 --> 00:09:06,907 Speaker 3: everyone's feet on the ground. You know, it's great, enjoy it. 163 00:09:07,067 --> 00:09:09,067 Speaker 3: You know, we love what we do and obviously give 164 00:09:09,147 --> 00:09:11,387 Speaker 3: that result, but you know we want more, you know, 165 00:09:11,387 --> 00:09:14,547 Speaker 3: we want their feeling. We've got to want more. We've 166 00:09:14,587 --> 00:09:17,467 Speaker 3: got to know that this is not it and that's 167 00:09:17,507 --> 00:09:21,507 Speaker 3: the challenge. And you know, just him being him, you know, 168 00:09:22,147 --> 00:09:26,667 Speaker 3: I think just gives everyone confidence and lifts everyone to realize, actually, 169 00:09:27,627 --> 00:09:31,307 Speaker 3: Je's this is the scuy you know, who's sacrificed it 170 00:09:31,427 --> 00:09:36,947 Speaker 3: to be here, and they know they have to lift 171 00:09:36,947 --> 00:09:39,827 Speaker 3: their levels and then they realize when they lift those levels, 172 00:09:39,827 --> 00:09:42,427 Speaker 3: they well, jeez, I can play at this level. You know, 173 00:09:42,547 --> 00:09:45,067 Speaker 3: I can play it at a level that I mean, 174 00:09:45,107 --> 00:09:47,907 Speaker 3: we can compete with the best, and so that just 175 00:09:47,947 --> 00:09:50,987 Speaker 3: builds confidence. And that's the biggest thing that I think 176 00:09:51,027 --> 00:09:53,787 Speaker 3: that he's brought to us. He's a confidence builder. You know, 177 00:09:53,787 --> 00:09:56,267 Speaker 3: he's a leader both in his actions and his words, 178 00:09:57,587 --> 00:10:00,667 Speaker 3: and I think he's someone that, you know, we're very 179 00:10:00,707 --> 00:10:04,867 Speaker 3: fortunate to have and unfortunate that he he aligned us, 180 00:10:04,947 --> 00:10:09,947 Speaker 3: hisself with with us. So yeah, I think probably the 181 00:10:09,947 --> 00:10:12,627 Speaker 3: word is we're disgrateful, you know, for what he brings 182 00:10:12,627 --> 00:10:15,547 Speaker 3: and what he does for us and making sure the 183 00:10:15,547 --> 00:10:17,227 Speaker 3: plans would say the same. 184 00:10:17,907 --> 00:10:21,147 Speaker 2: Congrats Tana, terrific performance, mate, Thanks for the chat this afternoon. 185 00:10:22,227 --> 00:10:24,467 Speaker 3: Thank you, Jase, appreciate it, No, appreciate you. 186 00:10:24,507 --> 00:10:26,907 Speaker 2: Thank you, Tana. Tana among that Mawana Pacific a coach 187 00:10:27,307 --> 00:10:31,947 Speaker 2: off the back of a significant night in their history 188 00:10:32,027 --> 00:10:35,507 Speaker 2: forty five twenty nine winners over the Crusaders in christ 189 00:10:35,627 --> 00:10:36,387 Speaker 2: Church last night. 190 00:10:37,027 --> 00:10:40,187 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 191 00:10:40,307 --> 00:10:43,587 Speaker 1: to News Talks d B weekends from midday or follow 192 00:10:43,627 --> 00:10:45,187 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio