1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: It is a twelve after five, all right. So the 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Justice Select Committee is pumping the brakes on changes to 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: expand firearms Prohibition orders. They're called FPOs now. The committee 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: says the new orders would give police too much power 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: for warrantless searches. The committee is made up of Labor 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Party members and it's a select committee. Now, the new 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: rules would allow police to search anyone suspected of being 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: under an FPO without needing a warrant. So Nicole McKee 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: is the Associate Justice Minister. She joins her right now, 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: Hella Nicole. 11 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: Good evening, Andrew. 12 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: So the Selectmmittee doesn't like it. Did you screw up 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: the law or did you believe that going hard on 14 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: guns was needed in the war on gangs? 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: Definitely going hard on the illegal possession of firearms by 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: those that are not licensed as a priority of this government. 17 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: And I don't think that we got it wrong. The 18 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: whole point of going to Select Committee is to make 19 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: sure that one they get to listen to the people 20 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: and what the efforts are on making good law, and 21 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: then two they try to change the law or change 22 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: the causes within it to tighten it up so that 23 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: the will effectively be more efficient and effective once it's 24 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: been brought in. Some of the things that they have 25 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: talked about is they're looking at who's captured by farm's 26 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: prohibition orders, They're looking at the well, they want to 27 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: decrease the number of eligible offenses, and they've got some 28 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: concerns around the warrantless searches. And I take on board 29 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: what they say. Some of it I agree with some 30 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: of it I don't. But at the end of the day, 31 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: we need to stop the drive by shootings of innocent 32 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: families that are being held to ransom by gangs in 33 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: their illegal use of these weapons. 34 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: So there will be changes made to the law. 35 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: Well, we need to actually go away and talk about 36 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: this as a government. What is the Select Committee looking 37 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: at changing and do we agree with this or not. 38 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: Once the government has agreed or not agreed on some 39 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: of the changes, we would then look to implement perhaps 40 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: supplementary order papers at the Committee of the whole stage 41 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: to make some changes ourselves. But that's still the discussion 42 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: as a government that we need to have. 43 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: And do you think that this law stood at contrary 44 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: to the position that actors had and you have had 45 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: and the government has had for a while in saying 46 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: that under labor gun laws became too prohibitive. 47 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: Under the previous government, the firearms legislation that they brought 48 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: in did not keep our communities safe. It demonstrably showed 49 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: a less safe community because of those changes, and part 50 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: of the reason why if they targeted the wrong group 51 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: of people, they went after the law abiding while the 52 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: criminals went about doing their drive by shootings. This government's 53 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: going to make sure that that stops. The best way 54 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 2: that we can is do that is through legislation and 55 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: empower police to be able to take those firearms away 56 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: from the criminals by giving them further search powers. 57 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: All right, Nicon the Key, I thank you so much 58 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: for your time, Nicole as the Associate Justice Minister. 59 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 2: For more from Hither duplessy Ellen Drive and Live to 60 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: news talks, it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 61 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.