1 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Kyoto and welcome along to the Mad Monday Podcast live 2 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: from the Export Beer Guard and Studio. Even though podcasts 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: can't be live because they pre recorded and then released 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: at later data, it is, of course all brought to 5 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: you by our mates at four and twenty piles, the 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: perfect at home snack for watching rugby league. And watch 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: some rugby league. I certainly did this weekend, So too 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: did Ben Hurley, who is joining me from beautiful Bay 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: of Plenty. Ben, how are you today? 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 2: Right? Listen? I was actually down very much in your 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: nick of the words on Saturday before the game I 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: was hosting. This is true the sixty fifth anniversary of 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: the changing of the name from Chinese Goosebury to Kiwi 14 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: Fruit Wow? 15 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: Is that in too poky? 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: It was into pookey Wow? I mean that's not That's 17 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: not the surprising part. 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: Is that an actual thing? The seller? Because I knew 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: that it did come from Chin originally. 20 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it grew particularly well. And yeah, sort of 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: central Bay of Plenty I would call that, even though 22 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: it's technically the West, but I would call it more 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: central Bay of Plenty. Yeah. And so sixty five years 24 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 2: ago somebody who went, let's just call it kievy fruit 25 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: because there would go grove heaps of it here. 26 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: And apparently because the green ones there now obviously being 27 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: you'd know this, they prefer the gold and the varieties 28 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: that are more immune to PSA. But the first variety 29 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: of the green one looked like a kiwi as well, 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: and it grew really well here. 31 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked like a fuzzy bollock, but they the 32 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: new ones aren't so fuzzy. No, no, no, they've had 33 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: a wax. 34 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: They've definitely had a wax. Beautiful though, sweet. It's kind 35 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: of yellowy colored. But that's We'll just park kiwi fruit 36 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: chat there. Just because one of the greatest all time 37 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: Warriors played his final game for the Warriors, Ben, if 38 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: you don't mind, we just moving over to the Warriors 39 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: getting a win, getting a wind over the Sharks thirty 40 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: point to twenty eight. What do we still play commentary bits? 41 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: We don't? Okay? I went pause there then, Ben, this 42 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: game I got home from a mate's thirtieth sort of 43 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: halfway through it. The Warriors were down. I think we 44 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: had four points. I think the Sharks had twenty odd points, 45 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: and I was just like, oh man, don't let Shawney J. 46 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: Go out like this. We let them score a couple 47 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: of tries right before halftime. They then scored just after halftime, 48 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: and it was a nice little demoralizing chunk right in 49 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: the middle. After a great sort of opening twenty of 50 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: US keeping them effectively scoreless, Shawney J. Ponty Metcalf threw 51 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: to open things up. Familiar pattern. Start strong, they score 52 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: a whole heap of tries, We get sad, except for 53 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: this time we massively rallied and we came back for 54 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: one of the most exciting finishes for the Wars in 55 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: recent history. 56 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's nice that another team has US as 57 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: their bogey team. And it must be the Sharks, right, yea, 58 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: because they lose in the last minute of the last 59 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: couple of minutes to US a lot of times throughout 60 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: NERL history, and it's usually Sean Johnson that that does it. 61 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: And yeah, it's incredible that he was able to turn 62 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: it on for his last game. And when I say 63 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 2: turned it on, he turned it on for about fifteen 64 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: to twenty minutes. It was good throughout the game, but 65 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: then he just turned into well he tended to Sean 66 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: Johnson from twenty twenty three for the last fifteen minutes. 67 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: That's right, that right side really just elevated itself. I 68 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: can't help but like, and that's what was so crucial 69 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: to Sean's success last season is it wasn't just him 70 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: getting the ball in us being like, Sean, please fix 71 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: things for us. It was him getting the ball in 72 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: space with plenty of runners around him, plenty of options 73 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: around him, and that was starting to happen last night 74 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: towards the end of the game. One thing we mentioned, 75 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: man iron I mentioned at the end of last week 76 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: was we're be sort of reluctance to put Charms anywhere 77 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: other than fullback, But then for this final game, he 78 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: puts Charms at right center and tame to a Picky 79 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: who had an absolute blinder a full back again, and 80 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: Chars is just so good at, you know, making sure 81 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: the ball goes through the hands and slotting in that 82 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: right side just instantly came back to life again. 83 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really like it. I like Chans and center, 84 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: and I think that's what should happen next year. And 85 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 2: we've got a couple of options at fallback, including a 86 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 2: Roger to be vasa shit. 87 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: Well, that's honestly chance at right center, Roger at left center, 88 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: or maybe on the wing, and we've got it. We've 89 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 1: got to let tur Perkey play fullback in my opinion, 90 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: because he's almost like he's almost like keano' Kenney for 91 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: the Titans. He's like a small like Defensively, he's pretty plucky, 92 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: but he can get smoked by someone massive. But he's 93 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: so small and electric that if we've got these dynamic 94 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: players that people are thinking twice about, like Metcalf, and 95 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you've got tur Pekey with even 96 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: an inch of space, he can make you pay. 97 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 2: Man. 98 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: I absolutely love this kid. 99 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, it was just it was a wonderful win, 100 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: and I don't want to take anything away from it 101 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: because it was. It was one hell of a game 102 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: to watch, but it was frustrating that did just seem 103 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 2: like a game from last season where you know, backs 104 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: against the World wore the wall rather and the Warriors 105 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 2: come up with a clutch play and ice a game, 106 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 2: which is just the thing that's been missing all year, 107 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: just so many you know, two and four point losses 108 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: all year and this this week didn't happen. 109 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: I know, right, if we could flip the switch on 110 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: all those like close games games we lost with in 111 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: about six points would have been a very different position 112 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: on the on the table. Look a lot of people. 113 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: I gotta say it was probably Delan Way Tennis Alesniak. 114 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: When we talk about the twenty twenty three season, he 115 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: had just an absolute blind to set the club record 116 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: for tries scored. This season, he hasn't been that level 117 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: and it hasn't just been his fault, but his form 118 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: hasn't been to that high standard. I would actually say 119 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: even though he scored a butler to tries in general, 120 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,559 Speaker 1: like he's running the ball back, his contesting and stuff. 121 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: I would say Dellan saved his almost his best game 122 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: of the season until the very last game. 123 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: Well yeah, another key component of what made last year 124 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: successful was was him scoring in the corner, and he 125 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: did it three times in this game. 126 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: Just mean and like he could have even had four. 127 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: Like he was chasing hard for a great grabber from 128 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: Shawn Johnson early on in the game as well. So 129 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: it's just tenacity and bringing the ball out of our 130 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: own end as well. I think Dyllan he really stepped 131 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: things up. I loved Ali Layer Tow I had one 132 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: of the most exciting runs. I've seen it a long time, 133 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: bringing it out of our own half as well, smoking 134 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: Niko Hines, putting him on his back and then running 135 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: and bumping off a few more dudes, eventually getting rid 136 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: of Will Kennedy as well. I think he to be honest, 137 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: I think he will be in left center next season. 138 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: He's head and Pompey as well. And we do need 139 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: a kicker. 140 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: Remember lay Tower can kick, sorry not la taint toe pick. 141 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: You can kick. He's he's a really good kicker. I 142 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: reckon he's almost he's pretty clutch too. 143 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 2: Okay, well you put your chips on on tour, Picky. 144 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: I like it. 145 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: A big fan, a two pekeasy, you know. And I'm 146 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: probably going to crow bar my name into his next 147 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: season when he's leading the Warriors in. 148 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: Adam, when he doesn't play for the Wars anymore. 149 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: Surely, well that's the thing he's going to be leaving, 150 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: so I have to crow bar my name it to 151 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 1: someone Else's a lot, a lot, a lot to like. Obviously. 152 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: At the end of this game, Sean Johnson just every 153 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: time anything happened, whether it was good or it was bad, 154 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: he had a giant grin on his face, and I 155 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: think one of the keys to him actually playing so 156 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: well in that final sort of twenty minutes was he 157 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: was actually, this is my last game. I'm just going 158 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: to have fun, and everything's fun. We're playing a game, 159 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: and it almost led to the team playing a far 160 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: more I don't know, laid back but fun style of footy, 161 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. 162 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we're going to talk about the Stonker of 163 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: the Round in a minute. It had a very similar 164 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: feel to that, not quite as dramatic, and it was 165 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: a successful comeback as opposed to that one. But yeah, 166 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: both those games it just looked like touch footage towards 167 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: the end. 168 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: It did, especially the Stokers over eighty points scored. It 169 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: was absolutely ridiculous. One of the things I'm so Sean's 170 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: final pass right throws that massive pass, skips new Cordeck, 171 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: throws it right out to the wing, Dallan steps and 172 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: then scores right on the buzz are very exciting. I 173 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: swear that's the first time he's throwing that pass all season. 174 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: Why the hell haven't we been doing that more often? 175 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: Actually, that's another player who I thought had the best 176 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: game of the season was Manada neiir Courdy, he's had 177 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: a quiet year. It hasn't been terrible, it just hasn't 178 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: been great. And I thought he had a real, real 179 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: staunch game. 180 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. He's having a staunch game, and 181 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: he's there for that short ball that Shawn Johnson loves doing, 182 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: and he goes, nah, I'm gonna skip through a harbor 183 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: bridge right out to Dellan and now he's going to 184 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: retire just as he's gone. I've actually got this in 185 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: my arsenal. We could be doing this more often if 186 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: you guys want it right. So I was a bit 187 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: frustrated by that. You're right, new Cardy had a great game. 188 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: He went off for an haa, clearly got knocked out, 189 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: but he managed to dribe his way back onto the field, 190 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: which was great. Another thing I'm a bit sad about 191 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: is seeing how cool that the dynamic between Sean Johnson 192 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: and Luke Metcalf. With Metcalf's running game on the left, 193 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: he's got a great passing game. Skip pass out to 194 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: Marcella to score a try. Very exciting. I just wish 195 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: that both of them hadn't been so injury played. That 196 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: could have been just such a dynamic halves pairing for 197 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: two seasons. 198 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: Now. Yeah, A really good point actually, because as much 199 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: as I love to Mardy Martin and you know, let's 200 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: be fair, he probably had a better game a year 201 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: at seven than J did. Yeah, but him and ESJ 202 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: just didn't seem to gel but as a as a 203 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: halves pairing, so they had to split them up. And 204 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 2: it was so nice to see him and Metcalfe together 205 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: that first try, the first wards try the lovely little 206 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: inside boarded Luke metcalf and he's got some gas. 207 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 1: He's super fast man. His support play is excellent. I 208 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: love how dangerous he is going to be next year 209 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: out on the left side. It's just going to be 210 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: about who we've got at half back to pair with 211 00:09:55,559 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: him with mighty right to do we give the keys 212 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: to seven year old Jet Cleary. I mean, like I've 213 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: been saying it on the Thursday Pod for a while now, 214 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: just give them the keys, man, Like these young players 215 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: are stepping up, they aren't afraid, they are gutsy and 216 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: we need a half. His last name is Clary. What 217 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: more do I need to I don't want to sit 218 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: see his CV. I just need to see his last 219 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: name on paper. 220 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: You're very focused on the young players coming through, Chris, 221 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,599 Speaker 2: There's some there's some great experienced heads that need that 222 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: need to play the proper positions. Yeah, need to play. 223 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: I think it's been a whole season of we'll be 224 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: like holding the experienced heads and letting them hold their positions, 225 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: and we've just been losing and it's not their fault 226 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: at all. But I think I'm just like I need 227 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: to see these young people. And every time a young 228 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: player comes through, they always have a blinder for us, 229 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: like Zyomo who comes on and like you know, smashes 230 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: people and runs it off the back fence and things 231 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: like that and taint too a picky. For example, it 232 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: was it roach Ow Hooker that came on for one 233 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: or two games. Was excellent, Like, these young guys are 234 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: so talented, exactly DEMITRICSI for Cooler when he had a shocker, 235 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: but he also had a couple of really good games 236 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: for us and Laban Laban, Oh yeah, see these guys he. 237 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 2: Went, they didn't give him another run. I thought he 238 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: had two great games. 239 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: He was the guy that got punched in the face 240 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago from old mate from the Raiders. 241 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: That's right, and then he's kind of horse Horsebury. 242 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 243 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, so maybe he's got facial issues. I don't think so, 244 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: maybe it's Yeah, it sounds like. 245 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: That, sounds like someone spoiling for a fight. Have you 246 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 2: got facial issues? Bro? 247 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: And if someone does, it's definitely Corey Hawsebrough. 248 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: Uh. 249 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: Mitcalf snapped off a droppy late in the game, a 250 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: two point attempt. He's got a great kick on him. 251 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: So that's good to keep in mind because we need 252 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: to clutch player. We've been giving it to c HT 253 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: Harris Tavina and he's just not that clutch guy. He's 254 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: a great player, solid defensively, but he just can't see 255 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: all those clutch moments. I reckon, Mitcalf's the guy. And 256 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: as as mentioned earlier by me, tay to a Picky 257 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: is also gutsy enough to you know, one of those 258 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: two being our go drop goal kickers moving forward, I 259 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: think would be smart. 260 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: Have you heard my plan for Cht by the way? 261 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: Oh no, what was this? 262 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: I think he needs to put on ten kgs of 263 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: muscle and play a ball playing thirteen because he's such 264 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 2: a good defensive player, and I reckon he could go 265 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: into the back row and if. 266 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: He bomped up a bit, that's a that's a great 267 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: shout actually, like a Dylan Walker type role because he 268 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: loves going to the dark places. Can we lose Walker 269 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: or he's going Well, there was rumors around him leaving 270 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: because we haven't resigned for next year and he was 271 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: one part of the crew of people who are leaving. 272 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: But it hasn't been announced where he's going yet. 273 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: I don't think in same with Jazz, we don't know 274 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 2: where he's going yet. Talk about Jams. By the way, 275 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: j Jas had a great game. 276 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was nice for him to finish on a 277 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: high as well. Saw Johnson's last game ever. But also like, 278 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: let's not forget Jazz Tevanga, who's just been at the 279 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: club for over a decade, through various teams and come 280 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: up to the ranks. I am going to miss him, 281 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: Like there's things about him I'm not going to miss. 282 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: But you can't, you know, you can't deny the fact 283 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: that he's always come off the bench and really added 284 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: some spark for us. 285 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: Well, ironically, he's been much more disciplined this year, so 286 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 2: that was the thing that always got in the way. 287 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: But he's been way out this year. 288 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's too late. Like it's when you're in trouble. 289 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: You know, you've got detention at lunchtime. You're trying to 290 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: be a good boy now to make up for it. 291 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's like, unfortunately, it's just yeah. 292 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 2: Doing all your homework for the first time ever of 293 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: the year and it's parent teacher night. 294 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, so you've got to do it for the 295 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: whole year a couple of let me know what you 296 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: think about this. For some reason, right, Shawn Johnson last 297 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: season pretty much the dali m this season. Injury issues, 298 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: you know, plaguing him the whole season, worries not clicking. 299 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: Something in my brain is saying, Sean Johnson isn't done 300 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: playing NRL yet? 301 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: What is that? Weird? 302 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: Do do you get that vibe? 303 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 2: Like what would he do? 304 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: Stacy Jones? Did he or did he not return to 305 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: the Warriors? 306 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 2: Yeah? Horribly, Yeah, this is the way he needs to 307 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: go out. If he takes a short term, one year 308 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: contract with the Titans or something like that, I will 309 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: absolutely lose my shit. 310 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: But I could just see like next season, right picture 311 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: of this, we rebuild. Things are looking really great. He 312 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: spends that year like just chill and recover and doing 313 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: podcasts that out as good as this one. And then 314 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: a year lad he goes you know what stuff it 315 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: They could really use me to come back because he won't. 316 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: How old is how old was Shawn John's He won't 317 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: be that old. Let me just google here or thirty four? 318 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: Has he thirty four? He's thirty three? Yes, he's in 319 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: our flag that that's not happening. 320 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: I mean he's not Karen Forrence having quite a good year. 321 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: By the way, he's in his early forties. 322 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: Well exactly, he's got some of the best ball playing 323 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: in the in the entire competition. Still old old fozz. 324 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: So I mean something that tells me that how good 325 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: he was last year, the injury nigols this year. If 326 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: he spends a year like getting into great shape and 327 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: the Warriors really like look like they're going to do something, 328 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: something tells me he might come back. I don't know why, 329 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: like not straight into the starting side, but just something. 330 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. It's just a little hunch. 331 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: And before we move on, one of my favorite things 332 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: about this game, obviously Seawn Johnson final game, where's winning 333 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: all that was great. Very start of the game. The 334 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: whistle hasn't even gone yet. There's a big guard of 335 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: honor for Cam McInnis. It's playing his two hundredth game, 336 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: and it like it zooms in and it's like he's 337 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: adorable little children, and then it pans up to his 338 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: beautiful wife and then it comes across to him and 339 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: he's got teeth missing, kid tape on, a cutover his 340 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: eye already in the game hasn't even started. I was like, yes, 341 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: that's a footy player, that kid right there, and I 342 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: just absolutely loved it. 343 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: And speaking of wives, shout out to Kayla Collen, Seawan 344 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: Johnson's wife with the best crowd sign of the year, 345 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: saying I still get to play with Sean Johnson. If 346 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: you've ever met Kayla, she's a delightful, quite funny in 347 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: her own right. 348 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's very very bubbly. Indeed, do you reckon? She 349 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: sort of stopped herself from saying I still get to 350 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: play with his Seawn Johnson. 351 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: I think there was probably there was definitely a discussion 352 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: about that. 353 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she found the right spot, so she did 354 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: bloody well. But huge shout to Sean Johnson. Thank you 355 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: so much for you know, he's almost of that BEINGI 356 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: Marshal Mold where kids are going to be looking at 357 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: highlights of hers for years to come. And if you 358 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: ever need to show someone the game of NRL and 359 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: whit's excellent, you look up Seann johnson highlights and you 360 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: show them and you go, this is the best game 361 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: in the world. So big shout to Sean Johnson, shout 362 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: to the Warriors for ending the season on a big win. 363 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: We're just going to go to an ad. When we 364 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: come back, though, we will take a look at the 365 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: stonker of the round, which, believe it or not, was 366 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: between the Eels and the Dragons. Welcome back to the 367 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: Mad Monday Podcast from the Export Beer Garden Studio. Got 368 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: a four and twenty pie in one hand, a pint 369 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: of water on the other hand. That it's time to 370 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: rip into the Stalker of the Round. It was the 371 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: Eels getting a surprise victory over the Dragons forty four 372 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: points to forty been. This was the Stalker of the round, 373 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: which is, you know, the most exciting game of the 374 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: round non Warriors of course. However, it was also if 375 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: you lined up all the games and I had to 376 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: point at one that I was going to not watch 377 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: it would have been this one. 378 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're two teams that I don't necessarily click with. 379 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: I know you're a bit of an Eels fan. Yeah, 380 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: but the Eels have had a very similar season to 381 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: the Warriors, I mean even worse. But you know, they've 382 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: got talent across the park. They had, you know, the 383 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: Grand finalists two years ago. They should really, they should 384 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: really been doing a lot better than they are, but 385 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 2: they've just they've lost a lot of games, by not 386 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: a lot they they've they've they've had some wins against 387 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: some pretty good teams as well, but just haven't seemed 388 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: to win the easy ones. 389 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, they're annoying the Eels because they've been 390 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: shocking all season and like Mitch Moses hasn't been there 391 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: for a large portion of the season as well. They're 392 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: like Jermaine Hopgood for example, there's a few players like 393 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: this who they've been lacking. Mike a. Cibo has been 394 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: out of the team. But as you say, across the park, 395 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: they are still on paper a freaking excellent team and 396 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: for some reason they've decided to start winning games late 397 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: in the season now that it doesn't actually matter, which 398 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: is quite interesting. But I will put them in a 399 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: group of four teams and I want to see if 400 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 1: you agree with me. Here you've got the Eels, the Titans, 401 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: You're oh sorry, you're Titans, the Cowboys, and the Roosters 402 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: are the fourth team. Teams that rely on outscoring their opponents, 403 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: but a terrible on defense. What do you reckon? 404 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think that's a pretty good assessment. My Cowboys, 405 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: thank you very much. Definitely did that against the Storm 406 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: B team. I know, right in this in this round, 407 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: but we should probably recap the game. So it was 408 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 2: it was forty four points to forty in the end, 409 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: but with ten minutes to go it was forty four 410 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: points to twelve. 411 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: So they scored. The Dragons scored twenty eight points in 412 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: the final ten, so twenty eight and ten minutes, it 413 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: was essentially and they just started doing stuff like running 414 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: it on the fifth and try and Ben putting in 415 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: these great kicks and things like that, and just playing 416 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: with absolute disregard. Tyrrel Sloane actually had a really good game. 417 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: And I don't like him really as a bloke. 418 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 2: I don't know him neither to be fair well as 419 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 2: well as you would by the sound of things. But 420 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 2: he is one of those players that looks incredible and 421 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: he's running in full flight. Yeah, you know, like like 422 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 2: Billy Slater did or something like that. You know he 423 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 2: I mean his name sounds like a female porn star. 424 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 2: We all know that Tyrrell Sloane. Like you, if you're 425 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 2: missus the knowing him at rugby League and saw Tyrrel 426 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: Sloan was in your history, you'd be in trouble. 427 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: You'd be in huge trouble. 428 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 2: But no, you're right. They just they came alive. And 429 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: I'm never seen a game. I don't think I've ever 430 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 2: seen a game this high, scoring eighty four points unless 431 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: it's a blowout. I've never seen that many tries in 432 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: a game. 433 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: Well, how about like the Dragons, for example, Shane Flanagan, 434 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: Who's they've really stepped up their defense right. They are 435 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: a bit more of a gutsy, gritty team this season. 436 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: And this is a team who are in eighth position. 437 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: We're in eighth position on the ladder and we're fighting 438 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: to be back in the finals again for the first 439 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: time in bloody ages. And they led in forty four 440 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: points to one of the worst teams in the entire competition. 441 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: So I don't know, having watched that game, I don't 442 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 2: know if the Dragons do make the eight, if they 443 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: will be absolutely embarrassed now you know, blow it away 444 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: the top teams in the in the first week, or 445 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: because of that comeback. Does that mean that there's something there, 446 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 2: There's a spark, there's if they can harness that. 447 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's I always noticed this that there are teams 448 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: in the top eight, right Melbourne Penrith, those are probably 449 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: the only two after the Roosters lost to the Raiders. 450 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: There are teams in the top eight. When they play 451 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: a bad team, you know they are going to put 452 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: forty or fifty on them. You know it's going to 453 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: be an ass kicking. Then there are teams in the 454 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: top eight, like the Sharks and the Dragons, who if 455 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: they play a bottom team, you're not that confident that 456 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: they are actually going to win it. They just they 457 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: drop their level down to match whatever team they're playing. 458 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: And I feel that the Dragons are like that. 459 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good point. Let's actually look at 460 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: that ladder now. Now, even though the Warriors are done, 461 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 2: there is another round, so. 462 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: You're gonna say there's a chance we can get in. 463 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: No, No, there is a chance. We just need about 464 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: six teams to have massive salary cap breaches and lose 465 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 2: all their points by the Bulldogs did that year and 466 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 2: then and then we might sneak under the eighth. 467 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: Well, because you've got the Dolphins, the Knights, the Dragons 468 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: and the Raiders are all on twenty eight right now. Yes, 469 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: so they're on twenty eight points and they're all vying 470 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: for that eighth position. How we're but this weekend you've 471 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: got two of those teams going head to head, the 472 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: Knights and the Dolphins. Two of those four are playing 473 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: one another, right, so one of them is going to 474 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: go to thirty and the other one's going to go 475 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: to I was going to stay on twenty eight unless 476 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: there's a draw and then they're both on twenty nine, 477 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: and which case the Raiders could win and jump up 478 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: or the Dragons could win and jump up. 479 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 2: But the Dolphins, if there is a you know, a 480 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 2: tie of points. The Dolphins have easily the best. 481 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: Points differential, that's right. 482 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, they are positive seven and the next best is 483 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 2: the Knights currently at negative forty eight miles away. 484 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've all just had horrific defeats throughout the season, 485 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: which is when it comes back to bite you. But 486 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: if you had to pick one of those four sides Dolphins, Knights, 487 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: Dragons or Raiders to actually do damage in the postseason, 488 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: who would be. 489 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: Well based on the other game this round that was 490 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 2: really interesting, which was Dolphins Broncos, I'd say the Dollies. 491 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: How like Wayne Bennett leaving the Dolphins, comes in, has 492 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: two great seasons, punching above average and then above what 493 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: we were expecting of them, and then goes to Sun Court. 494 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: The Broncos, who were playing to try and keep some 495 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: sort of glimmer of hope alive this year, goes there 496 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: and puts forty on them, where the Dolphins side was 497 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: so many intes, like it's just it's just ridiculous. So 498 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: you go Dolphins. I'd probably go nights just because of 499 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: the Klan Pong effector that's the only reason. And last 500 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: season how they went on that hot run. 501 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just remember who ended that hot run, and 502 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: you know it was the Warriors by thirty odd points. 503 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. 504 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: I feel like if they sneak in the same thing's 505 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 2: going to happen this year. 506 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, and to be honest, any of those four teams, 507 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: it's likely going to be one and done in terms 508 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 1: of going into the next round. They'll play a top two, 509 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: they'll get knocked out, likely, but still exciting to get 510 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: up there, and I wish we're in the same position. 511 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: Let's just have a quick look at a few other 512 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: things that happened in the Nral' just quickly been Melbourne. 513 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: They gave your Queensland Cowboys a bit of trouble with 514 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: eleven of their players out and you guys had to 515 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: square I think thirty eight to thirty was it in 516 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: order to beat a Melbourne B side. 517 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I mean the Cowboys have been running very 518 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: hot and cold. They had a wonderful start of the 519 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: season and I think that's the only reason they're kind 520 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: of still in the eighth after I think they won 521 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: their first five or six games and then you know, 522 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: having a hot start loa that really helps. Then you 523 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 2: can kind of cruise along at fifty to fifty after 524 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 2: that and still end up with the eight. So look, 525 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 2: Vale Holmes is leaving the Cows at the end of 526 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 2: this at the end of this season, so maybe there's 527 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 2: some sense of there. 528 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's been a gun for them for for 529 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: a few years. Now he's going to the Dragons. Of course, 530 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: your guys, team is just once again, it's like the Eels, 531 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: like full of guns, and on any given day they 532 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: could go on a ten game losing streak or they 533 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: could go on a ten game, teen game blow every 534 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: and out of the water streak. It's so bizarre. But 535 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: do you know what the concerning thing is. I think 536 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: if the Warriors played the Cowboys this week we would 537 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: have lost as well. And that's fielding like a healthy team, 538 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: whereas Melbourne gets sort of eleven of them starters and 539 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: they still like that. They're guys like Tyrone Wishart, who 540 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: is a genuine superstar. You know, he's like the almost 541 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: the Nico Heines of a couple of years ago. There's 542 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: this diamond they've unearthed from off the bench of the 543 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: Melbourne Storm of who was in any other team he'd 544 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: be starting and one of their best players, you know, 545 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: and these guys are balling me brings through. They're just ridiculous. 546 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 2: What's the who's the other fullback that played well? Peppinhouse 547 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 2: far long, far long o. 548 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: Now so, where the hell did he come from exactly 549 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: as a. 550 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 2: Backup full back that you have the luxury of not 551 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: playing well. 552 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: That's the thing. He wouldn't even be there if Nicko 553 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: Hines was still the backup pheelback. 554 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 555 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous. It's just the Yeah, the the convey 556 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: about of talent through Melbourne. Another big talking point. Manly 557 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: absolutely put the cleaners through the Dogs. I was actually 558 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: picking the Dogs their defense to out muscle Manly because 559 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: the offense focused and the Dogs are defense focused. But 560 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: they didn't. 561 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 2: He might be peaking at the right time. This don't 562 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 2: look like a pretty good football team. 563 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: But but you give the news a huge but Tom Traboyevich, 564 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: a Grade three AC joint injury, won't play next round, 565 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: but apparently is aiming to return and Week one of 566 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: the finals. Unfortunately, for Manly, so much of their offense 567 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: a lot it just runs through him, not as much 568 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: as it used to, like over the last few years, 569 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: because they've got so many new guns like Lehipo Hopowarti 570 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: and like Cooler Tommy to low these guys, but it's 571 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: still pivots around Tom Turbo and also Daily Cherry Evans. 572 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: That's a huge loss I think going into these finals, 573 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: if he can't come back in time. 574 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think many are a chance without him. 575 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 2: To be honest, he's been the difference. He came back 576 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 2: and they started winning games. I mean, that's that's right. 577 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: It's one plus one eres two. 578 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 1: Really yeah, it really is. So Unfortunately, unless he can 579 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,719 Speaker 1: pull up and you don't want to rush tom back 580 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: just because of injury history, and if he can't pull up, Manly, 581 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm putting a line through them as well. Huge news 582 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: for the Roosters. So not as impactful as Tommy to Manly, 583 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: but Sam Walker he's done his acl and he is 584 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: expected to miss six to nine months and probably won't 585 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: be back till about round ten of next season. After 586 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: having a season I'd say second to only Jerome Hughes. 587 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: He's probably been the next best halfback, the most consistent, 588 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: and the Roosters are very potent and they've got a 589 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: lot of talent around him. But that is huge for 590 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: the Roosters going into the finals. I think that takes 591 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 1: a big chunk out of their chances too. 592 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 2: So here's my real question, and I've sort of been 593 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 2: mentioning this every time I've been on the pod, but 594 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 2: are there really only two teams that can win this? 595 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: Like an actuality, Let's just be honest. Are there two teams? 596 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: Look, I don't want to at the start of the season, 597 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: I'm going, nah man, this thing's wide open. Halfway through 598 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: the season, nah man. As soon as the worries are 599 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: out of contention, that's when I come to grips with 600 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: the reality and say, no one is beating I think 601 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: Melbourne's going to win it. I don't know. 602 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: I've been saying that for weeks. It's been really, really 603 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 2: even and Melbourn's been hiad and shoulders above really the 604 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 2: rest of the pack other than Penrith, you know, even 605 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 2: Penlanths had some weird losses, including to us. 606 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: Well exactly, and Melbourne beat Penrith in that matchup a 607 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: few weeks back. They just, you know, they showed they 608 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: could go there, not only win, but go to Penrith 609 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: and win as well, which is gutsy. They also are 610 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: the Roosters also have lost Brandon Smith who's ruptured his 611 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: acl as well, so he's the same as he is 612 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: the same as Sam Walker, and they also lost Victor 613 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: Radley four to eight weeks with a shelter to shoulder 614 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: direct contact mechanism. He fractured his scapula, which is a 615 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: shoulder blade hang on. 616 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: So Victor Radley is out of the team and it's 617 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 2: not a suspension. 618 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: That's right. Usually he's the one causing the injury. He's 619 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: out four to eight weeks with a fractioned shoulder, So 620 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: losing him in thirty or I think he's been playing 621 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: on the in the back row, but him, Sam Walker 622 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: and Brandon Smith, that is a huge chunky or almost 623 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: almost just buying in your engine room of how the 624 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: Roosters attack as well. 625 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been They've been nice team to watch this year. Actually, 626 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,479 Speaker 2: I thought I fell out of love with the Roosters 627 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: a few years ago because I thought they've been going 628 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: quite a grubby team. Yeah, they seem to have cleaned 629 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,719 Speaker 2: a lot of that up and just playing quite nice football. 630 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: And I think i'd rate seam Walker massively. 631 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 1: Same, he's a gun. I think they've cleaned it up. 632 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: They particularly clean this week because Jared Way Hargreaves is 633 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: serving a band Oh yeah, and it. 634 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 2: Doesn't it doesn't help when he's Jared Hargraves and Victor 635 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 2: Radley in you. 636 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: So that's right. You just need Heatherington on your side, 637 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: and you've got the Big Three of giving away massive 638 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: penalties for head highs. 639 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Kane Evans coming off the bench. 640 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: Kan Evans. Oh, he I'd kill to him back. All right, 641 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: let's wrap things up for the final Mad Monday Monday 642 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: episode for twenty twenty four. And what an eventful season 643 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: it has been. It has been a roller coaster. It's 644 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: something we need to really now, like we've got to 645 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: buy this week the Warriors do we can just watch 646 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: some footy with no stakes on the line. Obviously Hurley 647 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: will be watching the Titans pretty closely still and still 648 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: getting pretty rived up for them. But what we're going 649 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: to do, Ben, I see if you know, actually, I'm 650 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: not even gonna lie. This was your idea and I'm 651 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: now pretending like I'm just pitching it to you. We 652 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: should all get in one room and just talk out 653 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: the season at some stage soon. 654 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to do our Teams of the Year 655 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 2: compete from anywhere. If there's any you know, any Warriors 656 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: on that side, it's probably Mitch Bonnett and that's it. 657 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: But I'll picking of course, Oh yeah, of course, yeah. 658 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll get room and sort of wrap up 659 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 2: the season now that the Warriors done. I believe we 660 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 2: are commentating the Grand Final. That's rightday in October. 661 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: The first Sunday in October, which is bloody exciting, the 662 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: Panthers taking on the Store, I mean the winner. Who 663 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: it could be anyone. It could still be the Knights 664 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: or the Dragons or the Raiders. We just don't know. 665 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: Bulldogs Dragons final. 666 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: What an absolute vintage slog is that would be be 667 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: massively into that though. So we are doing the Grand Final. 668 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: Keep an ear out a little likely beyond Skysport nine, 669 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: but we will be commentating that one and we will 670 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: over the next couple of weeks figure out a day 671 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: to all get together in one room myself, Mania, Diehindred 672 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: and Ben Hurley as well and just talk over the season. 673 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: I love the idea of your favorite team of the 674 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: year with all your best players and a few other 675 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: things like that's keep an eye out on socials for that. Otherwise, 676 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: thanks heeps for listening to the Mad Monday Podcast for 677 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: another year, and we will be back ready to go 678 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: next season as well. Thank you very much, Ben Hurley. 679 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 2: God bless Jay and God bless you Kiz. 680 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks mate, and jazz and jazz. 681 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: Australia without league and Australia without rugby league is not Australia.