1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:00,360 Speaker 1: Hither. 2 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 2: You're right, Rugby does need to change, but it needs 3 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 2: to change back to how it was before it was 4 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 2: taken over by the non rugby minded people. Seventeen passed 5 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 2: for Jason Pine sports talkhosters with USA Piney, Hello, Heather, 6 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: before we get into that, how about that Ryan Fox 7 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: so good? 8 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: I absolutely loved that this morning. I think it's really 9 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: easy to like Ryan Fox and to want success for 10 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: him because I think we can all see in him 11 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: some of the qualities we like to think we have 12 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: in ourselves, you know, as key We's humility, just a 13 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: down to earth nature, ability to get on with people, 14 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: not take yourself too seriously. It's clearly working because having 15 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: not won any PGA Tour titles up until a month ago, 16 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: he's now won two and less than a month. He's 17 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: got the US Open to come in the weak ahead, 18 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: and it's twenty years since Michael Campbell, another great KEI 19 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: we won that tournament. So yeah, it's all trending upwards 20 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: for Ryan Fox and you'll love to see it. 21 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: I saw him say that one of the shots was 22 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: the best shot of his life. Which one was that? 23 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a skin shot on the fourth playoff hole. 24 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: He said it from the fairway to within about I 25 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: don't know, four or five meters of the pen. So 26 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: he's got an, he's got an. That's the one. 27 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: He was using the three wood fall. 28 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: That's it. That's the one. And everyone's going, what are 29 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: you doing? Man? But he's a you know. I loved it, 30 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: and it forced Sam Burns to have a go at 31 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: his part, which was much further away. Couldn't get it done. 32 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: A couple of parts for Ryan, and he's sold in the. 33 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: Trump those parts, didn't they what was going on? Yeah? 34 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, they could have. I think one or both of 35 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: them could have probably won before we got to the 36 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: fourth My off hold of just started to get a 37 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: bit dark in Toronto. But yeah, no they I guess 38 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: it's pressure, right, and and it just added to the drama. 39 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: I reckon. They kept on, kept on making the same score, 40 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: kept on getting in the cart, going back to the 41 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: eighteenth tee and having another go. 42 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: Okay, now let's talk about Mark Robinson. This was not 43 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: a shock at all, was it. I Mean, this was 44 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: the moment that David Kirk came on. You knew it 45 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: was going to end like this, didn't you. 46 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, And look I've been listening to parts of 47 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: the press conference, which is which is I think maybe 48 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: still going certainly ongoing. And look, he's living away from 49 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: his family, that's one thing, so that's clearly what you know, 50 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: what is it heart of this? But it just seems 51 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: as though there has been a bit of an agitating 52 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: for change. And you know, I think any CEO in 53 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: any business, you know, you come in, you make your 54 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: mark whatever that is, and then you go. You don't 55 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: hang around for more than six, seven, eight years. Normally 56 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: that's the corporate rule, isn't it hither that you come 57 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: in for sort of that that six or seven years 58 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: and then they give somebody else a crack. 59 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I mean, 60 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: there are so many factors Piney, I think that you'd 61 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: have to take into consideration, but surely being good at 62 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: it as one of them. And you know, as much 63 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 2: as I like quite enjoyed spending time with Mark Robinson 64 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: when I did, he wasn't very good at it. 65 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: Was he well, and he inherited you know, New Zealand 66 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: Rugby just before COVID. He couldn't possibly foreseen. 67 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: That cod I'm not COVID to not make him and 68 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 2: all fozzy the way he did. 69 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: No, No, that No, that's another good point. That's a 70 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: good point. I'm just all I'm saying. I'm from a 71 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: wide lens. He did take it over in a time 72 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: of trouble and navigate it through. 73 00:02:58,880 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: What is he done to change? 74 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and well he's I mean, we probably don't have 75 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: enough time to go through what he has and hasn't done. 76 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: But what I will say is that the books haven't 77 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: balanced for the last three years, so that's never going 78 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: to be a good place to start. Look, I think 79 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: it's time for change. I'll be very interested to see 80 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: who comes into that role. 81 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 2: Somebody said to me on the text railing castle, what 82 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: do you reckon. 83 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: Well, very very highly experienced administrator to do well? Well, yeah, 84 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: there'll be all sorts of people with their hand up 85 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: for it. Heather. It's a plum. It's the plum sporting 86 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: role in New Zealand. So that we any number of 87 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: people getting their CV ready. 88 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: Now, Piney. Actual shock is Stu Wilson dying, isn't it? 89 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: Because the guy's only seventy, yes, as young as in 90 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: it seventy is young man, and we don't know the circumstances, 91 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: but what a full life he led. Wonderful all black 92 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: in a time where you know, all blacks were pretty 93 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: gruff and didn't say a lot. He was a character, 94 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: you know, wonderful after dinner speaker in recent times. Had 95 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: the opportunity I did a Q and A with him once. 96 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: Heather asked one question and he spoke for fourteen minutes 97 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: and didn't even answer the question. It was the easiest 98 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: MC job I ever did. 99 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: It was a yeah, yeah, not always good. Eh. 100 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: He was great. He had he had the room in 101 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: the palm of his hand. 102 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: He will be missed finey, thank you as always, I 103 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: appreciate it. Jason Pine Sports Talk Post. He'll be back 104 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 2: at seven o'clock to night here on news Stalk ZEDB. 105 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 106 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: News Talks dB from four pm weekdays, or follow the 107 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio.