1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from news Talks at b. 3 00:00:13,373 --> 00:00:26,733 Speaker 2: Quenqua. Thank you for your messages this morning. Calder Jack 4 00:00:26,773 --> 00:00:30,933 Speaker 2: not only was moo and absolute beats maestrone all round 5 00:00:31,013 --> 00:00:34,453 Speaker 2: nice guy, he also played great golf in tennis, says 6 00:00:34,533 --> 00:00:37,293 Speaker 2: John from Middemar. Thanks John ninety two ninety two if 7 00:00:37,333 --> 00:00:39,173 Speaker 2: you want to send us a message this morning, It's 8 00:00:39,173 --> 00:00:41,213 Speaker 2: time to get your film picks for this weekend. Francesca 9 00:00:41,293 --> 00:00:44,333 Speaker 2: Rudkin is our movie reviewers. She's here with us now Kilda. 10 00:00:45,853 --> 00:00:47,613 Speaker 2: We're going to start off with one of the top 11 00:00:47,733 --> 00:00:51,213 Speaker 2: hits at the New Zealand International Film Festival this year. 12 00:00:51,453 --> 00:00:53,893 Speaker 2: Have a listen to this. This is Grace a Prayer 13 00:00:53,973 --> 00:00:54,533 Speaker 2: for Peace. 14 00:00:55,413 --> 00:00:58,133 Speaker 3: I think the paintings are a bit like us human beings. 15 00:00:58,333 --> 00:01:00,493 Speaker 3: We're born with what we have and we have to 16 00:01:00,533 --> 00:01:03,373 Speaker 3: head out into the world with it and make the 17 00:01:03,413 --> 00:01:10,253 Speaker 3: most of it, you know, and that's our life. 18 00:01:12,173 --> 00:01:15,693 Speaker 2: This is a documentary about New Zealand artist Robin White, 19 00:01:15,853 --> 00:01:17,573 Speaker 2: So tell us about Grace A Prayer for Peace. 20 00:01:18,453 --> 00:01:22,093 Speaker 4: Yes, one of our greatest living artists, printmaker and beautiful 21 00:01:22,133 --> 00:01:25,053 Speaker 4: painter as well. This documentary is always a bit like 22 00:01:25,093 --> 00:01:28,933 Speaker 4: a collaboration. You could stay between Dame Robin White and 23 00:01:29,213 --> 00:01:33,253 Speaker 4: one of our greatest documentary makers, Dame Gayleen Preston, and 24 00:01:33,333 --> 00:01:36,333 Speaker 4: Gailien follows Robin for a couple of years shooting this film, 25 00:01:36,373 --> 00:01:40,533 Speaker 4: and she's created something I think that's really special. Robin 26 00:01:40,573 --> 00:01:45,733 Speaker 4: White has an expansive body of work and an incredible career, 27 00:01:45,813 --> 00:01:49,213 Speaker 4: but I think this isn't a biopical trying to put 28 00:01:49,253 --> 00:01:53,013 Speaker 4: it all into place. It's a real glimpse of the 29 00:01:53,093 --> 00:01:55,533 Speaker 4: artist at work. So there's a couple of things happening 30 00:01:55,573 --> 00:01:59,173 Speaker 4: in this documentary. First of all, Robin White takes us 31 00:01:59,173 --> 00:02:03,373 Speaker 4: around the Something is Happening retrospective exhibition of hers and 32 00:02:03,453 --> 00:02:05,493 Speaker 4: she talks to us about the works, and it's a 33 00:02:05,533 --> 00:02:08,933 Speaker 4: real treat to hear hear her talk about the relationship 34 00:02:08,973 --> 00:02:12,813 Speaker 4: between art and audience. We get this personal tour and 35 00:02:12,933 --> 00:02:15,933 Speaker 4: insight into her work. So there's this and she's and 36 00:02:15,973 --> 00:02:19,813 Speaker 4: at times Gayleen is also sort of heard and on screen, 37 00:02:19,973 --> 00:02:22,453 Speaker 4: and it feels like you're having this very personal tour 38 00:02:22,533 --> 00:02:26,653 Speaker 4: yourself with the artists learning about her work. But for 39 00:02:26,733 --> 00:02:30,493 Speaker 4: the majority of this film, Robin, we follow Robin going 40 00:02:30,533 --> 00:02:33,853 Speaker 4: about her work, and this too is such a great 41 00:02:33,893 --> 00:02:39,493 Speaker 4: treat with Gallen sort of focused on two aspects of 42 00:02:39,533 --> 00:02:41,973 Speaker 4: her recent career, when she's been in Japan where she 43 00:02:42,013 --> 00:02:45,093 Speaker 4: did a residency, and also when she went to Cure 44 00:02:45,133 --> 00:02:47,613 Speaker 4: of Us and she lived there a long time ago, 45 00:02:47,653 --> 00:02:51,533 Speaker 4: and twenty years later, she finally decides to execute this 46 00:02:51,653 --> 00:02:53,613 Speaker 4: work which has been in her mind for all this time. 47 00:02:53,693 --> 00:02:55,933 Speaker 4: So we watch her going about this process, we watch 48 00:02:55,933 --> 00:02:59,973 Speaker 4: her create these works, and it's really wonderful to hear 49 00:03:00,013 --> 00:03:04,573 Speaker 4: what inspires her work, what she wants to convey, her motives, 50 00:03:04,893 --> 00:03:07,853 Speaker 4: the methods and the material girls she uses, how she 51 00:03:07,933 --> 00:03:12,453 Speaker 4: conceives the work then composes it. I found it absolutely 52 00:03:12,493 --> 00:03:17,453 Speaker 4: fascinating and I I, you know, Robin White has this 53 00:03:17,733 --> 00:03:21,933 Speaker 4: created this incredible legacy, and I think this film reminds 54 00:03:21,973 --> 00:03:26,013 Speaker 4: us about the importance of capturing the meaning behind her 55 00:03:26,013 --> 00:03:30,813 Speaker 4: significant works and learning from them from the artists themselves. 56 00:03:30,893 --> 00:03:33,213 Speaker 4: You know, it's I think, I think Gailen's just given 57 00:03:33,293 --> 00:03:38,453 Speaker 4: us this u this very special, moving, thought provoking film 58 00:03:38,453 --> 00:03:45,613 Speaker 4: here that elevates the experience of you know, seeing her 59 00:03:45,693 --> 00:03:48,453 Speaker 4: works and understanding the way she does it. And she's 60 00:03:48,453 --> 00:03:50,653 Speaker 4: done a really great job of filming the works as well, 61 00:03:50,693 --> 00:03:54,413 Speaker 4: because nothing beats seeing a piece of art in front 62 00:03:54,453 --> 00:03:56,933 Speaker 4: of you in person, right, But she comes very very 63 00:03:56,933 --> 00:03:59,573 Speaker 4: close here. She's done a really great job of filming 64 00:03:59,613 --> 00:04:04,053 Speaker 4: some especially some of Robin massive canvases, like you know, 65 00:04:04,373 --> 00:04:07,293 Speaker 4: I almost I felt the power of them through the screen. 66 00:04:07,573 --> 00:04:09,573 Speaker 4: I think this is going to be stunning to see 67 00:04:09,893 --> 00:04:12,533 Speaker 4: on the big screen. It really is a very special film. 68 00:04:12,773 --> 00:04:15,733 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see it. I love Robin White's work. 69 00:04:15,853 --> 00:04:17,733 Speaker 2: Did you see a couple of years ago, it was 70 00:04:17,733 --> 00:04:20,773 Speaker 2: probably eighteen months or so ago the Auckland Ark Gallery 71 00:04:20,813 --> 00:04:22,613 Speaker 2: had that incredible Robin White. 72 00:04:23,333 --> 00:04:25,733 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's what she yes, that's what she takes 73 00:04:25,773 --> 00:04:28,133 Speaker 4: us around, right, So that's part of it, and I 74 00:04:28,213 --> 00:04:30,613 Speaker 4: love that it is likely in your own little to it. 75 00:04:30,693 --> 00:04:33,413 Speaker 4: But what I really loved was seeing her working and action. 76 00:04:33,533 --> 00:04:33,653 Speaker 2: Thing. 77 00:04:33,773 --> 00:04:36,373 Speaker 4: So this is screening at the New Zealand International Film Festival. 78 00:04:36,613 --> 00:04:38,893 Speaker 4: It's getting off on the thirty first of July. It's 79 00:04:38,973 --> 00:04:41,653 Speaker 4: running through the tenth of September around the whole country, 80 00:04:41,693 --> 00:04:45,733 Speaker 4: one hundred plus films, lots to choose from. What is 81 00:04:45,773 --> 00:04:49,253 Speaker 4: quite lovely though, is that this year they're also screaming 82 00:04:49,373 --> 00:04:52,693 Speaker 4: war stories our mother's never told us. And this is 83 00:04:53,493 --> 00:04:55,493 Speaker 4: a treasure. This is in the treasure section because this 84 00:04:55,493 --> 00:04:57,933 Speaker 4: is I think about thirty years old. This was also 85 00:04:58,453 --> 00:05:01,173 Speaker 4: directed and producers by Gaining Preston, so it's quite lovely. Yes, 86 00:05:01,213 --> 00:05:03,533 Speaker 4: it was released in nineteen ninety five, so it's quite lovely. 87 00:05:03,613 --> 00:05:06,893 Speaker 4: We have one of her classic treasures in the film festival, 88 00:05:06,893 --> 00:05:08,573 Speaker 4: and we also have one of her most recent works 89 00:05:08,613 --> 00:05:10,333 Speaker 4: in the film, which kind of special. 90 00:05:10,653 --> 00:05:12,573 Speaker 2: They are so good, Okay, cool, So the film is 91 00:05:12,693 --> 00:05:16,173 Speaker 2: Grace A Prayer for Peace. Next up, this is a 92 00:05:16,173 --> 00:05:19,013 Speaker 2: film showing in Cinema. Cinema is not at the International 93 00:05:19,013 --> 00:05:22,733 Speaker 2: Film Festival. It is a universal language. 94 00:05:23,653 --> 00:05:25,093 Speaker 4: So I thought that maybe if you don't want to 95 00:05:25,093 --> 00:05:27,093 Speaker 4: wait for the film Festival, you would like to see 96 00:05:27,373 --> 00:05:31,453 Speaker 4: a nutty, sweet, little absurdist art house film. This might 97 00:05:31,533 --> 00:05:35,773 Speaker 4: want to about this is It's absolutely delightful. It's a 98 00:05:35,773 --> 00:05:38,213 Speaker 4: Canadian film, but it's in French and Farcy. It's kind 99 00:05:38,213 --> 00:05:42,693 Speaker 4: of like this cross cultural absurdist comedy comedy. It's written 100 00:05:42,733 --> 00:05:46,853 Speaker 4: and directed by Matthew Rankin, so it's inspired by Iranian 101 00:05:46,933 --> 00:05:49,893 Speaker 4: films and lassie seems to be very very common in 102 00:05:49,893 --> 00:05:52,773 Speaker 4: the setting of Winnipeg, and it's got a touch of 103 00:05:52,893 --> 00:05:55,933 Speaker 4: Wiz Anderson styling to it and we meet a range 104 00:05:55,933 --> 00:06:00,493 Speaker 4: of seemingly random people going about their lives. Two school 105 00:06:00,573 --> 00:06:02,733 Speaker 4: kids trying to get a large bill out of some 106 00:06:02,813 --> 00:06:06,613 Speaker 4: frozen ice, this insane teacher who's struggling with his students, 107 00:06:06,653 --> 00:06:08,893 Speaker 4: the civil servant from Quebec come to see his mother. 108 00:06:09,173 --> 00:06:11,453 Speaker 4: A tour guy that takes people on the tour of 109 00:06:11,453 --> 00:06:14,413 Speaker 4: the most sort of underrated things you could ever imagine, 110 00:06:14,413 --> 00:06:16,133 Speaker 4: like a briefcase that has been sitting on a seat 111 00:06:16,213 --> 00:06:20,613 Speaker 4: since nineteen eighty seven. It is really quirky and weird 112 00:06:21,013 --> 00:06:24,413 Speaker 4: and strangely compelling, and all these people kind of come 113 00:06:24,453 --> 00:06:27,373 Speaker 4: together at the end. The styling's great. It's there's sort 114 00:06:27,373 --> 00:06:30,853 Speaker 4: of these gray, beige brown districts. There's lots of concrete 115 00:06:30,933 --> 00:06:33,613 Speaker 4: and brick, and then there's just these crazy bursts of 116 00:06:33,693 --> 00:06:37,613 Speaker 4: sort of color and quirky kind of eighties costumes, and 117 00:06:38,053 --> 00:06:41,973 Speaker 4: it's just it's you're sitting going this shouldn't make sense, 118 00:06:42,053 --> 00:06:46,173 Speaker 4: and this shouldn't pull me in, but it absolutely does. 119 00:06:46,373 --> 00:06:49,853 Speaker 4: It's the sort of surreal realm, and it's funny and odd, 120 00:06:50,293 --> 00:06:52,373 Speaker 4: and you do need to be a discerning film goer. 121 00:06:52,413 --> 00:06:54,293 Speaker 4: It is not for everybody, but take a look at 122 00:06:54,293 --> 00:06:57,453 Speaker 4: the trainers and see if it's for you. I really 123 00:06:57,493 --> 00:06:58,293 Speaker 4: enjoyed its good. 124 00:06:58,453 --> 00:07:01,093 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, cool. So that's universal language that's showing in 125 00:07:01,133 --> 00:07:04,933 Speaker 2: cinemas now. Grace A Prayer for Peace. The documentary about 126 00:07:05,013 --> 00:07:08,733 Speaker 2: artist Robin White is showing at the International Film Festival. 127 00:07:08,773 --> 00:07:10,573 Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Francesca. You have a great weekend and 128 00:07:10,573 --> 00:07:12,093 Speaker 2: we will catch you so we'll make sure those films 129 00:07:12,133 --> 00:07:13,933 Speaker 2: are up on the news talks. He'd be website as well. 130 00:07:13,933 --> 00:07:17,253 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what Robert like I say, we're big 131 00:07:17,293 --> 00:07:19,653 Speaker 2: fans of Robin White in our household, and I'll let 132 00:07:19,693 --> 00:07:22,453 Speaker 2: you in on a little bit of a romantic story. 133 00:07:23,493 --> 00:07:26,933 Speaker 2: When my wife and I were engaged, I was looking 134 00:07:26,933 --> 00:07:30,133 Speaker 2: for something kind of special along with the along with 135 00:07:30,173 --> 00:07:33,293 Speaker 2: the ring, of course, to ask for her hand in marriage. 136 00:07:33,333 --> 00:07:36,893 Speaker 2: And I end up getting a little Robin White original, 137 00:07:37,013 --> 00:07:39,333 Speaker 2: just a small one, just a little humble one, very 138 00:07:39,373 --> 00:07:42,933 Speaker 2: small to put on our walls. So we are very 139 00:07:43,013 --> 00:07:46,293 Speaker 2: lucky to have. It's like it's like, you know, like 140 00:07:46,373 --> 00:07:49,573 Speaker 2: the size of a postcard and is like far and 141 00:07:49,613 --> 00:07:52,933 Speaker 2: away our most kind of treasured artwork at home. So 142 00:07:52,933 --> 00:07:56,293 Speaker 2: I know what you're thinking, Yes, missus, Tame is very lucky. Indeed. 143 00:07:56,893 --> 00:08:00,013 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning, with Jack Tame. Listen live 144 00:08:00,093 --> 00:08:02,893 Speaker 1: to news talks he'd be from nine am Saturday, or 145 00:08:02,973 --> 00:08:04,893 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio