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Speaker 2: Hello, great New Zealander, and welcome to mattin title Full

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Speaker 2: show podcast number two eight six for the twelfth of February,

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Speaker 2: the year of our twenty twenty six. We didn't do

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Speaker 2: our story on barking that we'll probably tease during this

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Speaker 2: this podcast, you listen do We didn't get to the

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Speaker 2: barking because the hitchhiking stories were just two good, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: two good. The hitch shiking stories and the love for

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Speaker 2: the small business people in the stress they go through

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Speaker 2: was a very uplifting show.

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Speaker 3: And listen out for a story from Maddie about his

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Speaker 3: hitch hiking days that involves gang members drinking copious amounts

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Speaker 3: of piss and a little bit extra stuff as well.

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Speaker 2: Seen monsters Yeah or was I seeing them? Or was

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Speaker 2: I actually in the backseat of a holden with monsters?

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Speaker 3: Listen to find out it's a doozy. So download, subscribe

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Speaker 2: Them a day to gear.

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Speaker 4: You are right?

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Speaker 2: You seen busy? Will you listen to the pod?

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Speaker 1: Love you love Big Stories, The leak issues, Living trends

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Speaker 1: and everything in between them kids Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 1: Afternoon squid s gooda news talk said they how you doing,

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Speaker 1: Welcome in to Thursday show. Hope you're having a great

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Speaker 1: day so far, really good. Every company as always for.

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Speaker 2: You lucky people that get us from twelve o'clock and

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Speaker 2: the main centers. You might have heard us talking about

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Speaker 2: Valentine's Day before, Yes, and whether you've booked something because

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Speaker 2: you've got to get in there quickly, all right, or

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Speaker 2: as you miss out you've been late. And so you

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Speaker 2: are having dinner on Valentine's at three thirty in the afternoon?

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Speaker 5: Correct?

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Speaker 6: Yep?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so is that even dinner?

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Speaker 3: Afternoon tea, some croissant.

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Speaker 2: I got a question for you on Valentine's Day? What

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Speaker 2: about chocolates? Because with a with like say my partner

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Speaker 2: she's getting up at bloody crack of ars every morning

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Speaker 2: to go to the gym. If I just pile chocolates

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Speaker 2: on her, she'll get angry at me because she'll be like,

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Speaker 2: now you're tempting me with chocolates.

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Speaker 3: So what what a protein bar instead? I guess so

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Speaker 3: it's a nice MASSACHEI protein.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, A tofu scramble.

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Speaker 3: That's a good question. I mean, chocolates went out of

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Speaker 3: Vogel a long time ago. You know that cliche of

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Speaker 3: buying the heart shaped box of chocolates and then handing

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Speaker 3: it to your beloved. I don't think I've ever done that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not a beacon of romantic behavior by

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Speaker 3: any stretch of the imagination.

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Speaker 2: But you get them, yeah, and you eat them yourself.

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Speaker 3: What about a box of favorites? Nothing says I love

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Speaker 3: you like a box of favorites.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean by a box of favorites?

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Speaker 3: Ye know, just a box of chocolates?

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Speaker 2: Ah right? Yeah, yeah, you mean something else?

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Speaker 3: You could have some of that as well. Right, If

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Speaker 3: you have Miss Valentine's Day, you better get onto it

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Speaker 3: quick and you might be lucky enough to get a

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Speaker 3: three thirty booking like I did to today's show After

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Speaker 3: three o'clock, won't you talk about barking dogs? This is

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Speaker 3: after the Hastings District Council. They've agreed to stop phone

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Speaker 3: in a homeowner every time there's another complaint about her

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Speaker 3: two dogs barking. Her name is Sam Hall and she's

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Speaker 3: got a couple of Jack Russell's There are Percy and

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Speaker 3: Frank of their names, but they go absolutely crazy and

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Speaker 3: she's had more than fifty complaints to her.

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Speaker 2: Percy, you reckon, it's Percy. Yeah, it'll be Percy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, it's always the Percys and persists. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: they've been going absolutely crazy. But he seeing cecil Council

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Speaker 3: feel sorry for Sam Hall, so they've decided to stop

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Speaker 3: telling her every time there's a complaint. But the question

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Speaker 3: we've got for you is what do you do when

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Speaker 3: you've got a massively pain in the ass barking dog

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Speaker 3: next door or your dog itself is the chronic barker.

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Speaker 2: When I got a dog, When I got a dog,

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Speaker 2: I've got several dogs in my life, but when I

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Speaker 2: got the current dog, Colin, who's listening at home on iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 2: that's one thing I checked as are they barkers? Are

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Speaker 2: they yappers? Because very very annoying to have a yeppie dog,

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Speaker 2: and you know, you could be. I've had friends that

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Speaker 2: had yepy dogs. I didn't even know, yes, because they

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Speaker 2: yap all day when you're at work, and then you

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Speaker 2: come home you think everything's fine and then later on

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Speaker 3: It happens a lot. That is after three o'clock, looking

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Speaker 3: forward to that after two o'clock. We didn't get to

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Speaker 3: hit Shi King. So it was a story about an

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Speaker 3: American tourist. He's in the country right now. He's hitchhike

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Speaker 3: all over the world, Old Europe, Vietnam, Asia, America, and

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Speaker 3: he says, out of every country's hitchhike, New Zealand is

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Speaker 3: like a fairy tale. The quote was, I've never had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it hasn't been a fairytale for some historically

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand. I used to hitch a lot back

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Speaker 2: in the day. I used to hitch from denied In

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Speaker 2: all the way up to Auckland sometimes. A big fan

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Speaker 2: of it. But I feel like it's gone out of

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Speaker 2: scared to do it, and I think people are less

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Speaker 2: likely to pick you up these days, But I could

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Speaker 2: be wrong. Is anyone out there is still sticking their

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Speaker 2: thumb out as anyone, anyone picking people up, anyone got

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Speaker 2: any good hitching stories from back in the day. Boy,

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Speaker 2: I got into some hairy situations back in the nineties

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Speaker 2: when I was hitching all over the shop. I'll beat

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's going to be some great stories on that

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Speaker 3: after talk cloub But right now, let's have a chat

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Speaker 3: about the stress seems to be stealing small business owners

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Speaker 3: productivity and also sleep. Zero data shows nearly half of

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Speaker 3: New Zealand small business owner's surveyed head considered giving up

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Speaker 3: their business due to that stress. Joining us now is

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Speaker 3: Bridget Snelling, Country manager for Zero New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Bridge. It very good afternoon to you, Bridget is sme stress,

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Speaker 2: I guess materially worse now than it was in previous downturns.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 8: On our survey shows that three quarters of key we

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Speaker 8: business owners have said that this financial year has been

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Speaker 8: more stressful than previous years. I think the past few years,

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Speaker 8: which have been pretty tough for our small business economy,

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Speaker 8: I'd say they're probably a bit fatigued, and so this

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Speaker 2: What's the biggest cause of stress is it financial uncertainty,

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean it's financial pressure is sort of the

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Speaker 8: unpredictable demands the other king contributors to stress for small

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Speaker 8: business owners. You know, we have seen that sales data

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Speaker 8: past few years. So small businesses have been really kind

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Speaker 8: they are coming to that front of year whenever one's

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Speaker 2: Do we know how many businesses failed you to stress

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Speaker 8: We know that you know about heart and said that

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Speaker 8: they've considered giving up their business altogether due to stress.

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Speaker 8: And I think that just shows that, you know, business

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Speaker 8: owners are pretty close to breaking point at some point

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Speaker 8: in their business journey. And so what we're you know,

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Speaker 8: we're talking about and acknowledging is that there is a

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Speaker 8: lot of tax that get called as we come to

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Speaker 8: a sect as much, but really what we don't see

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Speaker 8: kind of goes beyond the balance sheet where small businesses are,

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Speaker 8: you know, miss out on those family moments, they have

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Speaker 8: their sleep effected, they lose personal time and it takes

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Speaker 8: a real toll on them. And we want to acknowledge it, this,

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Speaker 8: this and the financial Yet it's coming up a.

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Speaker 2: Tax returns sort of end of year burdens disproportionately high

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't think that there's sort of any more

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Speaker 8: certainly things that can make it easier, which are things

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Speaker 8: like having an advisor to work with who can do

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Speaker 8: the heavy lifting for you. Obviously, using an accountant stuff

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Speaker 8: so you understand what's going on in your business, you

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Speaker 8: understand what your obligations are, obviously, and key ways to

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Speaker 8: reduce the truths. But it's a really busy time of

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Speaker 3: Is it equital across the board with the businesses because

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Speaker 3: Do you see any difference between maybe the guys who

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Speaker 8: Yeah, look, I think absolutely there's larger the business, the

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Speaker 8: And I think the smaller the business. Now, often you

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Speaker 8: they're the finance person, are at customer service, so they

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Speaker 8: which again is another reason why it's super important to

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Speaker 8: in things like financial management and that can really help

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Speaker 2: Did your research come up with any businesses that are

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Speaker 8: Dive into particular industries or types of businesses, and so

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Speaker 8: I think, you know, really, this is something that we

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Speaker 8: does take a real personal toll on them, and I

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Speaker 8: think if you talk to any businesses, you know, I

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Speaker 8: heard it's been really tough. And obviously that comes down

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Speaker 8: largely to the performance of the economy, and things have

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Speaker 8: been tough, and in certain industries it's been tougher than

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Speaker 8: in others. But I think just across the board, businesses

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Speaker 8: have felt the toil and it's hard work. You know,

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Speaker 8: my husband runs his own business and you never get

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Speaker 8: to forget.

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Speaker 10: Thinking about it.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's always on your mind. It's always there,

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Speaker 8: night and day. You know, you have to make sacrifices

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Speaker 8: because it's your baby and you want it to succeed, obviously,

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Speaker 8: and so I think that's just part and pastl of

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Speaker 8: being business and is so rewarding, but equally a lot

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Speaker 8: to manage and a lot to navigate, and particularly with finances.

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Speaker 8: You know, there are so many digital tools available that

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Speaker 8: to be leveraging those as much as possible.

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Speaker 3: Great stuff, Bridget, Thank you very much for joining us.

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Speaker 3: That'd be afternoon twenty past one. So when new survey

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Speaker 2: Yes, seventy five percent of KVY small business owners say

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Speaker 2: Welcome the show, Gordon. You're a business owner.

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Speaker 2: Well, it makes a good point there, Gordon. Sometimes you

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

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Speaker 17: I was actually quite shocked by what a huge reaction

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Speaker 3: Almost said that without laughing, but you gave yourself awake.

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Speaker 2: Come on, this is love.

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Speaker 17: We should be asking these questions.

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Speaker 3: Nine past one. We're talking about the zero report that

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Speaker 2: Where are they stressed at the batch and their boat?

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Speaker 2: to medium businesses. And then you work barbecues, you meet

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00:20:50,333 --> 00:20:53,413
Speaker 2: their kids, and suddenly this business isn't just about you.

437
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Speaker 2: It's about going such that these families can send their

438
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Speaker 2: kids to school and do all the things that they

439
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Speaker 2: want to do. So you know that sort of cartoon

440
00:21:02,773 --> 00:21:04,532
Speaker 2: view of just a business owner making a whole lot

441
00:21:04,573 --> 00:21:06,933
Speaker 2: of money and going to you, going off to their

442
00:21:06,973 --> 00:21:11,293
Speaker 2: batch and their boat as I know it's probably true

443
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Speaker 2: for some, but not the majority.

444
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

445
00:21:13,053 --> 00:21:15,533
Speaker 3: I couldn't think of anything more. Well, very few things

446
00:21:15,533 --> 00:21:18,133
Speaker 3: more awful than being a boss someone that you like

447
00:21:18,253 --> 00:21:19,773
Speaker 3: and as you say, you know their family and having

448
00:21:19,813 --> 00:21:21,533
Speaker 3: to sit them down in tough times and say, look,

449
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Speaker 3: I'm really sorry, mate, we're just not bringing in the business.

450
00:21:24,613 --> 00:21:27,773
Speaker 3: I can't afford to keep you anymore. That would be devastating.

451
00:21:27,813 --> 00:21:30,133
Speaker 3: Like clearly it's devastating for the employee, of course it is.

452
00:21:30,333 --> 00:21:32,453
Speaker 3: But for that business owner they have to sit down

453
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Speaker 3: and do that and make that call. That is huge.

454
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Speaker 19: Yeah.

455
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I mean a friend of mine that

456
00:21:39,573 --> 00:21:43,133
Speaker 2: had to do that, he ended up. I mean, I'm

457
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Speaker 2: not going to give any details, but but a friend

458
00:21:44,613 --> 00:21:47,532
Speaker 2: of mine that rand businesses and had to fire some

459
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Speaker 2: people to let them go, he ended up taking his

460
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Speaker 2: own life. Oh jeeus. Yeah, I mean, there was just

461
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Speaker 2: some stuff going on, but that failure of his business

462
00:21:55,293 --> 00:21:57,613
Speaker 2: was a big part of it, and having to let

463
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Speaker 2: people go was a big part of what. You know,

464
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Speaker 2: he couldn't take it anymore.

465
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Speaker 3: Society, so many people miss love to hear from you. Oh,

466
00:22:02,973 --> 00:22:05,613
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you are in

467
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Speaker 3: your own business, have you ever thought about in the

468
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Speaker 3: towel because of the stress levels, we love to.

469
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Speaker 2: Hear from you.

470
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Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text as well with

471
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Speaker 3: that number. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. How

472
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Speaker 3: tough is it out there? It is twenty eight to

473
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Speaker 3: two headlines coming up?

474
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Speaker 2: Or do you think it's sweet airs and all business

475
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Speaker 2: owners are just spending most of the time on the boat.

476
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Speaker 2: Come on through drinking champagne and guzzlin caviat.

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485
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylan. We're talking about small business stresses.

497
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Speaker 3: There's a report out by Zero that shows from the

498
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Speaker 3: people they surveyed, almost fifty percent of business owners thought

499
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Speaker 3: seriously about throwing in the tail giving up the business

500
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Speaker 3: because the stress levels was so high. They're losing out

501
00:23:56,973 --> 00:24:00,173
Speaker 3: on sleep. Many are losing five hours of sleep at night.

502
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Speaker 3: And you add all that up for the worst effected,

503
00:24:02,653 --> 00:24:05,893
Speaker 3: which was twenty percent, that's thirty lost days a year.

504
00:24:06,293 --> 00:24:08,133
Speaker 3: So are you one of those people that is running

505
00:24:08,133 --> 00:24:10,333
Speaker 3: a bat business and you seriously thought about giving it

506
00:24:10,333 --> 00:24:11,893
Speaker 3: all up because of the stress levels. Love to hear

507
00:24:11,893 --> 00:24:13,493
Speaker 3: from you, Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

508
00:24:13,653 --> 00:24:17,413
Speaker 2: The six is most owners bleed their business dry taking

509
00:24:17,453 --> 00:24:21,653
Speaker 2: money out. Just look at the utes they drive. Okay,

510
00:24:22,253 --> 00:24:24,413
Speaker 2: well that's a very sort of small view of the

511
00:24:24,413 --> 00:24:26,133
Speaker 2: world that one, isn't it. Yeah, just look at the

512
00:24:26,253 --> 00:24:27,013
Speaker 2: utes they drive.

513
00:24:27,453 --> 00:24:29,493
Speaker 3: These a lot of employees drive utes as well.

514
00:24:29,533 --> 00:24:32,093
Speaker 2: For these billionaires driving their driving their utes.

515
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Speaker 3: How you, Philippa, Hi.

516
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Speaker 11: About that person who talked about the utes. You know,

517
00:24:38,813 --> 00:24:41,173
Speaker 11: you can get lots of things on finance. Anyone can

518
00:24:41,213 --> 00:24:44,533
Speaker 11: get a car on finance, So don't be so mean spirited.

519
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Speaker 2: Envy is a terrible thing, Philippa. If you if you

520
00:24:47,933 --> 00:24:50,213
Speaker 2: see a ute and you get angry about that, not

521
00:24:50,253 --> 00:24:53,333
Speaker 2: knowing any of the details, or then you know you're

522
00:24:53,333 --> 00:24:54,733
Speaker 2: going to get angry about a lot of stuff.

523
00:24:55,453 --> 00:24:58,253
Speaker 11: Exactly, I have a van, and I'm sure people are

524
00:24:58,253 --> 00:25:02,333
Speaker 11: really envious about me driving around in my LVD van

525
00:25:02,533 --> 00:25:03,813
Speaker 11: whatever it is lovely.

526
00:25:03,933 --> 00:25:06,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, lots of storage on those Hi has I got

527
00:25:06,573 --> 00:25:09,293
Speaker 2: a high, high high ceiling in the back.

528
00:25:10,333 --> 00:25:12,133
Speaker 11: Yes, Oh no, No'm just a normal feeling.

529
00:25:12,253 --> 00:25:13,613
Speaker 7: I couldn't afford the high ceiling.

530
00:25:15,813 --> 00:25:19,173
Speaker 2: So in the business you're in, you're in hospitality, is

531
00:25:19,173 --> 00:25:21,532
Speaker 2: that right, Philippa's that's correct.

532
00:25:21,853 --> 00:25:24,253
Speaker 11: I've got a cafe. I've been doing this, not this

533
00:25:24,293 --> 00:25:28,413
Speaker 11: particular business, but I've been working my own business since

534
00:25:28,493 --> 00:25:34,813
Speaker 11: ninety three. You know, it's nineteen ninety three. And this

535
00:25:34,933 --> 00:25:37,613
Speaker 11: is another one that I've got. That is what's at

536
00:25:37,893 --> 00:25:42,813
Speaker 11: thirteen years old now, and things are just getting tougher

537
00:25:42,853 --> 00:25:46,693
Speaker 11: and tougher. I used to be able to have nights off,

538
00:25:46,853 --> 00:25:50,173
Speaker 11: but now I'm working, you know, whether I'm cooking or

539
00:25:50,373 --> 00:25:52,573
Speaker 11: getting things ready for the next day, or doing the

540
00:25:52,613 --> 00:25:55,613
Speaker 11: books or you know, wages and all that sort of thing.

541
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Speaker 11: And may I say that also since we've got things

542
00:26:00,933 --> 00:26:07,053
Speaker 11: like zero like payroll companies, life has gotten a lot better.

543
00:26:07,333 --> 00:26:08,853
Speaker 11: I mean it used to be pretty hitt He is

544
00:26:08,893 --> 00:26:11,613
Speaker 11: sitting trying to do GST with a check book and

545
00:26:12,013 --> 00:26:14,532
Speaker 11: or my receipts spread out around me, and locked myself

546
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Speaker 11: from the room for two days, and once I finally

547
00:26:17,773 --> 00:26:21,653
Speaker 11: got the same figure twice, I've just decided I was done.

548
00:26:22,533 --> 00:26:26,093
Speaker 11: But that part of it's getting better. But everything else, my.

549
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Speaker 1: God, is the end of the year.

550
00:26:28,173 --> 00:26:30,453
Speaker 2: You do have that help? Is the end of year

551
00:26:31,093 --> 00:26:35,453
Speaker 2: still the most stressful time of the year for you? Philippa, No, no.

552
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Speaker 11: I just give it to make accounts and let them

553
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Speaker 11: feel the stress. I'm fine.

554
00:26:41,733 --> 00:26:43,453
Speaker 2: And why do you think it's? Why is it getting

555
00:26:43,733 --> 00:26:47,533
Speaker 2: getting worse? Is there is you know, business coming through

556
00:26:47,573 --> 00:26:51,333
Speaker 2: the door. The main problem expenses, you know, cost of things.

557
00:26:52,373 --> 00:26:54,773
Speaker 11: I think it's the expense of just keep on going up.

558
00:26:54,813 --> 00:26:58,812
Speaker 11: And my suppliers have no problem whatsoever just saying oh

559
00:26:58,853 --> 00:27:01,573
Speaker 11: there's been a price increase, or they don't mention it

560
00:27:01,773 --> 00:27:04,053
Speaker 11: or whatever, and then suddenly you realize that actually you're

561
00:27:04,053 --> 00:27:09,773
Speaker 11: not actually making any money on these things expect I

562
00:27:09,813 --> 00:27:13,293
Speaker 11: think perhaps because it's the food business, people think that

563
00:27:13,333 --> 00:27:15,293
Speaker 11: they could do it at home, so why should why

564
00:27:15,293 --> 00:27:17,933
Speaker 11: should they pay me to do it? I'm not really sure.

565
00:27:17,933 --> 00:27:21,013
Speaker 11: But most of my customers are lovely. Yeah, they're all great.

566
00:27:21,093 --> 00:27:27,373
Speaker 11: But it's just ongoing. Now we're going to lose the

567
00:27:27,413 --> 00:27:31,653
Speaker 11: ability to charge customers the percentage on their credit cards.

568
00:27:32,013 --> 00:27:35,453
Speaker 11: For me, that's anything upwards of fourteen hundred dollars a

569
00:27:35,453 --> 00:27:39,173
Speaker 11: month just so that they can get airpoints. You know,

570
00:27:39,333 --> 00:27:42,293
Speaker 11: it's I don't think it's fair. I don't think that

571
00:27:42,933 --> 00:27:44,613
Speaker 11: I should have to subsidize them.

572
00:27:46,693 --> 00:27:49,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, a loss of months for a small business, it's

573
00:27:49,573 --> 00:27:50,533
Speaker 3: a huge I'm sure.

574
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Speaker 11: Do you do you no return on that?

575
00:27:53,573 --> 00:27:56,493
Speaker 2: Do you just put that in your prices across the

576
00:27:56,533 --> 00:27:57,413
Speaker 2: board to cover that?

577
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Speaker 18: No?

578
00:27:58,693 --> 00:28:02,173
Speaker 11: No, it's really hard. I haven't put my prices of

579
00:28:02,293 --> 00:28:08,213
Speaker 11: coffee up for just about probably three years because milk.

580
00:28:09,213 --> 00:28:09,853
Speaker 11: I just can't.

581
00:28:09,933 --> 00:28:10,133
Speaker 10: You know.

582
00:28:10,253 --> 00:28:12,933
Speaker 11: It's just first of all, I have to take the

583
00:28:12,933 --> 00:28:15,013
Speaker 11: boards off the wall and get take me to the panet,

584
00:28:15,293 --> 00:28:18,093
Speaker 11: to the sign writers and get them redone. So it's

585
00:28:18,133 --> 00:28:19,133
Speaker 11: a mission in itself.

586
00:28:20,413 --> 00:28:23,133
Speaker 2: Those are the little bits of it that you forget about. Yeah, yeah,

587
00:28:24,093 --> 00:28:26,333
Speaker 2: you say that, you say that. You you know you

588
00:28:26,653 --> 00:28:30,293
Speaker 2: love your customers. What about your employee ease? Do you

589
00:28:30,413 --> 00:28:33,333
Speaker 2: feel the pressure to keep them employed?

590
00:28:34,453 --> 00:28:38,293
Speaker 11: Absolutely? Everybody's got to eat, and I need them when

591
00:28:38,333 --> 00:28:40,133
Speaker 11: it gets busy, you know. But there is a lot

592
00:28:40,133 --> 00:28:43,493
Speaker 11: of a lot of time that is spent wandering around

593
00:28:43,613 --> 00:28:47,293
Speaker 11: looking for something to do, or averting one's eyes from

594
00:28:47,333 --> 00:28:48,333
Speaker 11: things they could be doing.

595
00:28:48,333 --> 00:28:49,013
Speaker 12: The hips on it.

596
00:28:50,493 --> 00:28:52,773
Speaker 2: As. One of the reasons why you're having to come

597
00:28:52,813 --> 00:28:55,493
Speaker 2: in most nights is because employees are flaky and don't

598
00:28:55,493 --> 00:28:56,333
Speaker 2: turn up when they should.

599
00:28:56,413 --> 00:29:01,613
Speaker 11: No, no, no, no, I just do certain things there

600
00:29:01,653 --> 00:29:04,813
Speaker 11: and they don't. But but you know, if I didn't

601
00:29:04,893 --> 00:29:07,693
Speaker 11: like them, they wouldn't be there, so they've got that

602
00:29:07,813 --> 00:29:11,573
Speaker 11: on there. This morning, you know, I had two people

603
00:29:12,013 --> 00:29:14,373
Speaker 11: text it and say, oh, I won't be in today,

604
00:29:15,493 --> 00:29:15,813
Speaker 11: you know.

605
00:29:17,733 --> 00:29:17,853
Speaker 20: Who.

606
00:29:18,013 --> 00:29:21,173
Speaker 11: No Oh one's child was looking like it might be

607
00:29:21,253 --> 00:29:23,733
Speaker 11: sick the day before, so she didn't think she'd be in,

608
00:29:23,773 --> 00:29:25,853
Speaker 11: and the other one thought that she might have a sniffle.

609
00:29:26,373 --> 00:29:28,813
Speaker 11: COVID's done a lot for our a gumption. I think

610
00:29:28,853 --> 00:29:33,013
Speaker 11: it's it's made us tender sinto wimpy little bosses who

611
00:29:33,053 --> 00:29:33,693
Speaker 11: just wanted to sit.

612
00:29:34,173 --> 00:29:36,573
Speaker 3: Couldrill and get to work for goodness sake, Do you

613
00:29:36,573 --> 00:29:37,293
Speaker 3: want money or not?

614
00:29:38,573 --> 00:29:40,973
Speaker 11: I'll provide the cold coundrel. Don't you worry about that?

615
00:29:41,093 --> 00:29:43,453
Speaker 2: Yeah? Good on you. Have you ever heard immunity get

616
00:29:43,453 --> 00:29:45,653
Speaker 2: it out there in the community exactly?

617
00:29:45,693 --> 00:29:48,333
Speaker 3: What will be stronger? Have you ever thought, ever thought

618
00:29:48,333 --> 00:29:50,293
Speaker 3: about giving it up Philippa and just going back to,

619
00:29:50,413 --> 00:29:54,573
Speaker 3: you know, being an employee.

620
00:29:56,773 --> 00:30:01,493
Speaker 11: I'd love to, yeah sometimes, Yeah, No, I don't think

621
00:30:01,493 --> 00:30:03,613
Speaker 11: I'd take too well to being told what to do.

622
00:30:04,613 --> 00:30:06,093
Speaker 11: It's the problem when you've had.

623
00:30:05,973 --> 00:30:06,613
Speaker 12: Your own business.

624
00:30:07,053 --> 00:30:10,293
Speaker 2: So thirty two years is for my maths, right since

625
00:30:10,453 --> 00:30:16,013
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three, maybe thirty three something like that, So

626
00:30:16,493 --> 00:30:18,413
Speaker 2: you know, has it been worth it? Looking back? Has

627
00:30:18,453 --> 00:30:21,053
Speaker 2: it been a good decision in life to go through

628
00:30:21,093 --> 00:30:23,373
Speaker 2: all the stresses up and down to be a businessman,

629
00:30:23,693 --> 00:30:25,693
Speaker 2: business woman, business person.

630
00:30:25,973 --> 00:30:30,133
Speaker 11: It's not, I don't think so. It's given me a

631
00:30:30,253 --> 00:30:32,933
Speaker 11: job in job security. And as much as the harder

632
00:30:32,973 --> 00:30:35,053
Speaker 11: I worked, that more likely I am to hang on

633
00:30:35,173 --> 00:30:39,293
Speaker 11: by my fingernails. But I don't know if I'd like

634
00:30:39,373 --> 00:30:41,573
Speaker 11: working for someone else. It's really nice to get the

635
00:30:41,613 --> 00:30:44,093
Speaker 11: money that they get. The last time I got paid

636
00:30:44,093 --> 00:30:47,973
Speaker 11: a wage was got twelve dollars an hour I think

637
00:30:49,253 --> 00:30:50,933
Speaker 11: so that was as a cook.

638
00:30:51,133 --> 00:30:54,413
Speaker 2: So yeah, so I mean you must be paying yourself

639
00:30:54,453 --> 00:30:55,053
Speaker 2: something though.

640
00:30:58,133 --> 00:30:58,333
Speaker 7: No.

641
00:30:58,413 --> 00:31:01,013
Speaker 11: I pay myself back from all the money that I

642
00:31:01,053 --> 00:31:05,853
Speaker 11: took of my house that I sold luckily just before,

643
00:31:06,293 --> 00:31:07,093
Speaker 11: just before COVID.

644
00:31:07,133 --> 00:31:07,733
Speaker 18: I think.

645
00:31:09,093 --> 00:31:11,013
Speaker 11: That's the only reason I was able to keep going

646
00:31:11,093 --> 00:31:14,293
Speaker 11: during COVID. And then of course the Auckland shut down

647
00:31:14,373 --> 00:31:19,933
Speaker 11: that just killed everybody down our range going towards towards Coramandeltown.

648
00:31:20,333 --> 00:31:24,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, that last Workland shutdown is unforgivable and what they.

649
00:31:23,893 --> 00:31:27,693
Speaker 11: Had absolutely we love Aucklanders.

650
00:31:28,613 --> 00:31:29,373
Speaker 12: Down everybody.

651
00:31:29,653 --> 00:31:31,893
Speaker 2: Well, do you want to give a plug for your cafe?

652
00:31:33,053 --> 00:31:35,573
Speaker 11: Are we the cornerstone cafe? We're on the corner of

653
00:31:35,773 --> 00:31:39,093
Speaker 11: Highway two and twenty five. And at the moment we've

654
00:31:39,093 --> 00:31:40,613
Speaker 11: got roadworks.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, nodes.

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Speaker 2: Well, Philippa, you keep fighting the good fight.

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Speaker 7: I will.

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Speaker 11: I keep on feeding those people.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you there soon.

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Speaker 2: All the best we can get a coffee or phillipper.

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Speaker 2: What a great call.

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

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Speaker 3: if you are a business owner, have you ever thought

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Speaker 3: about throwing it all in because the stress was too high?

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Speaker 3: Love to hear from you. Nineteen nine two is that text.

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Speaker 3: There's a quarter to two.

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Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, to the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adam's Afternoons with Skoda.

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Speaker 1: Please go to codes every day at scoter dot co

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Speaker 3: Afternoon, Jude is thirteen to two, and we are talking

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Speaker 3: about the stress levels of small business owners. According to

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Speaker 3: a report from zero, almost fifty percent said they seriously

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Speaker 3: considered throwing in the towel, ending the business because the

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Speaker 3: stress was too much. So that you love to hear

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Speaker 3: from your nine two nine two, that's the text.

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Speaker 2: Number.

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Speaker 3: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 2: Some are forty two percent find the end of the

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Speaker 2: financial year more stressful than the rest of the year. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean it's in the Financiers have become a lot

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Speaker 2: easier than they used to be with the with the

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Speaker 2: help of things like zero and such. Yeah, but still

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Speaker 2: a massive stress right, Oh I bet yeah. And then

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Speaker 2: you're adding it all up and you go, oh my goodness, yep,

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Speaker 2: have I got it right? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Look how much I've lost?

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Speaker 21: One more?

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Speaker 2: How much do I have to pay? And was I

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Speaker 2: expecting that? Have I got put away? Am I going

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Speaker 2: to have to borrow money to pay tax? Yeah? Things

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 3: Terrifying time, Tony, How are.

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Speaker 21: You good afternoon? Thanks for your tome. The end of

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Speaker 21: the year one is an interesting one. And we have

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Speaker 21: a philosophy in our business that if it's hard work,

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Speaker 21: you must be doing it wrong. And then the second

699
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Speaker 21: thing is that I heard a while ago there was

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Speaker 21: a definition of insanity that if you keep doing the

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Speaker 21: same thing over and over again but expect a different result,

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Speaker 21: that that possibly is insanity. And so with the end

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Speaker 21: of the year, what's changed for us as we hired

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Speaker 21: a decent accountant, and with the accountant, they did forward

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Speaker 21: forecasts and future planning, and then we have a catch

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Speaker 21: up once a month to see if we're on track,

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Speaker 21: so that when we get to the end of the year,

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Speaker 21: we have either stayed on track and achieved our goal

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Speaker 21: or not. But the accountant tells you that if you

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Speaker 21: do achieve your goal, what your taxes are going to be,

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Speaker 21: and so therefore supposedly there's no surprises along the way.

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Speaker 2: And has there been no surprises along the way.

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Speaker 21: There's been little surprises, But because we're doing it monthly,

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Speaker 21: were or even even more frequently than that, we're able

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Speaker 21: to see that we're not tracking in the right direction,

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Speaker 21: which is why we've made some changes, because at the

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Speaker 21: moment we're.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, no, sorry, you go, you finished.

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Speaker 12: Sorry.

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Speaker 21: We've got a static turnover five hundred thousand dollars a year,

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Speaker 21: and we spend five hundred thousand dollars a year performing

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Speaker 21: and so therefore we end up with zero profit. We've

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Speaker 21: and we've done that year after year, and so hence

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Speaker 21: hence the insanity definition, because obviously something needs to change

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Speaker 21: if we want to either increase our increase our turnover

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Speaker 21: to get a profit, or to work smarter and decrease

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Speaker 21: our expenses to get a profit.

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Speaker 2: So, if you don't mind me asking, how is it

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Speaker 2: that you have a static.

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Speaker 21: Income Because we're in the food truck business, and we

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Speaker 21: go to events each year, each each month, and each week,

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Speaker 21: and there appears to be five hundred thousand dollars of

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Speaker 21: work available. And so they talk about glass ceilings in business.

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Speaker 21: And so if you've got a cafe, you can only

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Speaker 21: make so many coffees per hour, you can only feed

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Speaker 21: so many people, so many people walk past your door,

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Speaker 21: but there'll be a natural limitation, a natural ceiling that

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Speaker 21: is causing your turnover to cap at that natural amount.

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Speaker 21: So we're doing our very best, but our ceiling appears

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Speaker 21: to be five hundred thousand.

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Speaker 2: So you can't add another you kin add another truck.

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Speaker 21: Well, no, that's the question. Are you peaked out because

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Speaker 21: you don't have enough trucks, or are you peaked out

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Speaker 21: because you don't have enough staff to operate the trucks,

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Speaker 21: or are you peaked out because there isn't enough events?

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Speaker 21: So you peaked out because you're operating in a very

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Speaker 21: small geographical area. But the issue is that there is

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Speaker 21: an issue there. We're aware that we have an issue.

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Speaker 21: So therefore we can therefore address it, and you do

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Speaker 21: that through consultation and contractors and doing things smarter.

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Speaker 7: Is there?

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Speaker 2: You know? Do you have an appetite for risk?

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Speaker 21: And that's another question. And they talk about how hot

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Speaker 21: do you like your bath? Some people like a really

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Speaker 21: hot bath, some tip it and some cold. And that's

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Speaker 21: the appetite for risk. And so I am I am

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Speaker 21: very risky, I'm crazy risky. But the business partner is

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Speaker 21: risk adverse, and so therefore we balance each other out.

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Speaker 21: But there's a thing risk versus reward, and so are

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Speaker 21: you willing to risk and therefore get the reward or

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Speaker 21: are you willing to risk and it not come through

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Speaker 21: and therefore have a small failure And does that small

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Speaker 21: failure tip you over? Does it make the stress too great?

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Speaker 21: And so we have weekends where we work particularly hard,

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Speaker 21: risk a lot of things and the reward is not

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Speaker 21: equal to the risk that we've done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot that goes into it. Thanks for sharing, Tony,

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Speaker 2: I really really appreciate and good luck in that tepid

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Speaker 2: bath you're sitting in with your partner.

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Speaker 3: Exactly what an analogy, right, We're going to play some

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Speaker 3: messages back very shortly, but keen on all View small

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Speaker 3: business owner, how your stress levels nine two nine two

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Speaker 3: set text number it is eight to two.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 6: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons.

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Speaker 2: News dogs Envy it is five to two. Julie says, men,

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Speaker 2: we are small business owners. We have done well. No

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Speaker 2: batch or boat, but we have a good lifestyle. Over

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Speaker 2: nearly twenty five years, we've worked eighty hours a week.

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Speaker 2: Phone calls can come at three point thirty am and

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Speaker 2: Sunday night. We've had employees die of natural causes, had

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Speaker 2: their funo die. We work late nights and early mornings.

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Speaker 2: The weather events impacked us. We've supported staff into homes,

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Speaker 2: resolved serious issues with them, and helped them get bank

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Speaker 2: accounts and passports. Our own three kids have a strong

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Speaker 2: work ethic and probably wish mom and dad were a

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Speaker 2: bit more chill and importantly present, more present. This is

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Speaker 2: a quick list, the full one is extens extensive. I

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Speaker 2: wish every employee could be an employer for a week.

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Speaker 2: We have enjoyed the spoils, but has come at a

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Speaker 2: large and tangible cost. There are several occasions I wish

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Speaker 2: we worked an honest forty hours for someone else.

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Speaker 3: Great texts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know, good on those that take it

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Speaker 2: on and build something and create something in New Zealand. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: small business owners, you're great New Zealanders. Yeah, we love

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Speaker 2: and appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: We need you a great discussion, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: Coming up after two o'clock. When was the last time

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Speaker 3: you picked up a hitchhiker? We'll tell you more about

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Speaker 3: why you need to answer that very surely because New

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Speaker 3: Sport and Weather is on the way. You're listening to

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Speaker 3: Matt and Tylight. You're having a good afternoon, you.

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Speaker 1: Said, my heart talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt

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Speaker 1: Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons with Skoda News Talk.

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Speaker 14: Sa'd be.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. Welcome back into the show.

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Speaker 3: Six past two. And just a reminder, our mates at

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Speaker 3: Scoda could be sending you and a friend to the

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Speaker 3: Tour de France when you play scoder Co. If you

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Speaker 3: need some help with today's clue, keep listening. We'll have

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Speaker 3: a clue for you in about fifty minutes time.

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Speaker 7: Yep.

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Speaker 3: I'll just keep working on that. I'm want to crack

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Speaker 3: it before the end of this.

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Speaker 2: No, you're doing You're doing very well, Tyler.

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Speaker 3: That's the support I needed to hear.

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Speaker 2: Mate, thank you.

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Speaker 3: That has coming up at about forty five minutes. But

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Speaker 3: let's get into this topic. So it's a story earlier

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Speaker 3: this week about an American tourist. His name is Django Levon,

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Speaker 3: so he's twenty years old. He's hitchhiking around the country.

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Speaker 3: This is what he does. He's a social media influencer.

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Speaker 3: He's got twenty two hundred and twenty eight thousand people

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Speaker 3: that follow him and that's kind of his stick that

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Speaker 3: he goes hitchhiking around different places in the world. So

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Speaker 3: he's done Norway's done lots of Europe, he's done lots

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Speaker 3: of Southeast Asia, America's when it comes to New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: he said, it almost feels like a fairy tale. I

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Speaker 3: think there are only two times when I had to

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Speaker 3: wait more than forty five minutes, and usually I was

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Speaker 3: picked up within ten cars, which is quite crazy.

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Speaker 2: Within ten cars. Ten cars, Wow, he must look very unthreatening.

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Speaker 2: I mean I've done a lot of hitchhiking in my

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Speaker 2: time back in the in the nineties, with hitch all

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Speaker 2: the way to Auckland from Dunedin, often hitching to christ

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Speaker 2: Church and back. I mean, I was so broke. I

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Speaker 2: didn't have the money for a bus even in the city.

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Speaker 2: Was too much with that out of my league. You're

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Speaker 2: a brave man. Didn't have a car, but ten cars,

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Speaker 2: that's that's phenomenal. I mean I'd often end up standing

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Speaker 2: on you know, top Pine Hill for you know, you

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Speaker 2: hadn't even left town and you'd been there for two hours. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I didn't think hitchhiking was really a thing anymore.

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Speaker 2: I just don't see that many hitchhikers on the road.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you see idiot hitchhikers that are like standing on

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Speaker 2: the entrance to a motorway or something where there's absolutely

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Speaker 2: no way you could pull over. Yep, you see a

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Speaker 2: for you those. But I just didn't think I thought

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Speaker 2: it had, you know, the sort of cultural zygeist had

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Speaker 2: moved into who you know, there have been so many

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Speaker 2: movies about serial killers and so many horror stories in

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Speaker 2: the news that I just didn't think people were hitchhiking,

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Speaker 2: and I certainly haven't heard someone saying it's easy before.

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Speaker 2: I mean, do you pick up hitchhikers Tyler? No?

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Speaker 3: No, I mean the last time I picked up a

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Speaker 3: hitchhiker would have been fifteen years ago, and it was

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Speaker 3: a young guy. As I was driving from Nelson to Blenheim,

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Speaker 3: saw him on the side of the road. He had dreadlogs,

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Speaker 3: had the big backpack on, and I was kind of bored,

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Speaker 3: and I thought, yeah, yeah, I'll pull over and pick

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Speaker 3: this guy up. He was a Canadian guy, lovely, great

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Speaker 3: shed all the way to Blendham. He was on a

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Speaker 3: weed trip. Here he was walking the length of the country. Actually,

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Speaker 3: so fascinating guy. But why wouldn't I do it now?

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Speaker 3: Quite often it's the vibe of the hitchhikers that you see,

871
00:41:50,573 --> 00:41:53,013
Speaker 3: so the last couple when I don't see many hitchhikers.

872
00:41:53,053 --> 00:41:55,293
Speaker 3: But if you see a hitchhiker without a backpack on

873
00:41:55,813 --> 00:41:58,053
Speaker 3: and they've got nothing but a sign, I don't know.

874
00:41:58,093 --> 00:41:59,573
Speaker 3: That says to me, I don't know if I want

875
00:41:59,573 --> 00:42:01,453
Speaker 3: to pick you up, where have you come from? It's

876
00:42:01,453 --> 00:42:03,533
Speaker 3: almost like you've run away from a bad situation, You've

877
00:42:03,533 --> 00:42:04,693
Speaker 3: got nothing on you.

878
00:42:04,693 --> 00:42:08,773
Speaker 2: You're clearly not a tourist. Well, what so you don

879
00:42:08,773 --> 00:42:11,773
Speaker 2: only pick up a tourist? Yeah, so you're not interested

880
00:42:11,773 --> 00:42:13,893
Speaker 2: in picking up someone that's going between cities, that's in

881
00:42:13,973 --> 00:42:16,093
Speaker 2: just a New zealand're trying to get around to their business.

882
00:42:16,133 --> 00:42:17,973
Speaker 3: Just feels like the serial kill effector would be a

883
00:42:18,013 --> 00:42:19,013
Speaker 3: lot higher if they don't have a.

884
00:42:19,013 --> 00:42:21,613
Speaker 2: Big backpack on. What about? What about that situation where

885
00:42:21,853 --> 00:42:24,413
Speaker 2: you seeing your girlfriend out stand on the road because

886
00:42:24,413 --> 00:42:27,573
Speaker 2: she looks unthreatening, and then when the car pulls over

887
00:42:27,653 --> 00:42:29,893
Speaker 2: and she's getting you run out with your messive backpack.

888
00:42:29,613 --> 00:42:31,053
Speaker 3: And all up out of the bushes and say don't

889
00:42:31,053 --> 00:42:31,652
Speaker 3: forget about me.

890
00:42:31,973 --> 00:42:33,813
Speaker 2: Yes, So are you picking up hitchhikers?

891
00:42:33,813 --> 00:42:33,893
Speaker 7: Oh?

892
00:42:33,933 --> 00:42:36,773
Speaker 2: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty? Are you hitch hiking

893
00:42:37,013 --> 00:42:41,013
Speaker 2: around the country? Is it still a thing? I don't

894
00:42:41,053 --> 00:42:44,253
Speaker 2: know if it's I feel selfish, but the Edmond are

895
00:42:44,253 --> 00:42:46,373
Speaker 2: picking up a hitchhiker just seems like a lot as well.

896
00:42:46,893 --> 00:42:49,253
Speaker 2: You pull over and if you are hitchhiking, you know

897
00:42:49,293 --> 00:42:52,213
Speaker 2: what are the tips? What are the safety tips? You know?

898
00:42:52,733 --> 00:42:54,692
Speaker 2: And you know what are you looking for when you're

899
00:42:54,693 --> 00:42:56,893
Speaker 2: picking up a hitchhiker. Yeah, in a car. Who won't

900
00:42:56,893 --> 00:42:57,333
Speaker 2: you pick up?

901
00:42:57,453 --> 00:42:59,093
Speaker 3: Love to hear from you? Oh, eight hundred and eighty

902
00:42:59,133 --> 00:43:01,172
Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number to call? Nine two ninety

903
00:43:01,173 --> 00:43:05,893
Speaker 3: two is the text? For surely? It is elever Pass two.

904
00:43:05,653 --> 00:43:10,252
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk man Heathen Adams. Afternoons call

905
00:43:10,573 --> 00:43:13,133
Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk said, be.

906
00:43:14,853 --> 00:43:17,013
Speaker 3: Very good afternoons you It is thirteen pars too. So

907
00:43:17,013 --> 00:43:19,453
Speaker 3: we're talking about hitchhiking in New Zealand. A story about

908
00:43:19,453 --> 00:43:22,173
Speaker 3: a young a US tourist here who said it is

909
00:43:22,213 --> 00:43:24,333
Speaker 3: a dream to hitchhike in New Zealand. He's never had

910
00:43:24,373 --> 00:43:26,733
Speaker 3: to wait more than forty five minutes. Is that really true?

911
00:43:27,053 --> 00:43:29,333
Speaker 3: Have you hitchhiked yourself in recent times or even in

912
00:43:29,373 --> 00:43:31,493
Speaker 3: the past. Love to hear your stories about hitchhiking and

913
00:43:31,533 --> 00:43:32,293
Speaker 3: do you pick them up?

914
00:43:32,453 --> 00:43:32,652
Speaker 12: Well?

915
00:43:32,693 --> 00:43:36,293
Speaker 2: I had some dody situations when I used to hitchhike around.

916
00:43:36,453 --> 00:43:38,493
Speaker 2: We ended up at a gang headquarters at one point.

917
00:43:38,813 --> 00:43:39,533
Speaker 2: That was pretty terrifle.

918
00:43:39,613 --> 00:43:40,773
Speaker 3: You've got to tell that story later on.

919
00:43:40,813 --> 00:43:42,773
Speaker 2: I'm used to hitchhike home to Pamas the North from

920
00:43:42,813 --> 00:43:45,413
Speaker 2: a tiger Uni every holiday, says this text and never

921
00:43:45,453 --> 00:43:48,573
Speaker 2: waited more than ten minutes. Only two dodgy occasions, once

922
00:43:48,653 --> 00:43:50,773
Speaker 2: picked up in a stolen car and they asked me

923
00:43:50,813 --> 00:43:53,253
Speaker 2: to drive it. The other time an old dude asked

924
00:43:53,333 --> 00:43:55,613
Speaker 2: me how far i'd go for a box of bears?

925
00:43:56,293 --> 00:44:00,013
Speaker 3: How far did you go? Well, it's a hell of

926
00:44:00,053 --> 00:44:00,693
Speaker 3: a proposition.

927
00:44:01,533 --> 00:44:06,093
Speaker 2: Personally, I wouldn't go very far for a box of bears. Hitchhiking, Matt,

928
00:44:06,133 --> 00:44:09,692
Speaker 2: Are you a hobo? Have you seen Wolf Creek? Not

929
00:44:09,733 --> 00:44:13,853
Speaker 2: a hobo and haven't seen Well, I have seen Wolf Creek,

930
00:44:13,893 --> 00:44:18,453
Speaker 2: which is horrible, absolutely horrible situation. But yeah, I mean

931
00:44:18,493 --> 00:44:20,493
Speaker 2: I think I was more hobo adjacent in my twenties.

932
00:44:20,533 --> 00:44:23,613
Speaker 2: It's sure that I am. Now, what is the difference

933
00:44:23,653 --> 00:44:26,053
Speaker 2: between a hobo? This I always forget. There's a hobo,

934
00:44:26,253 --> 00:44:31,373
Speaker 2: a bum a, and a there's hobo, abum, a whino.

935
00:44:31,573 --> 00:44:36,493
Speaker 2: They're all different things, Yeah, bum a, wino, homeless, they're

936
00:44:36,493 --> 00:44:40,652
Speaker 2: different things. So hope, I think travels between towns looking

937
00:44:40,653 --> 00:44:42,773
Speaker 2: for work. Oh yeah, there's nothing wrong with being a hobo.

938
00:44:43,253 --> 00:44:44,413
Speaker 3: Is that the same as a vagrant?

939
00:44:45,693 --> 00:44:50,013
Speaker 2: A hobo is a worker who travels to find work.

940
00:44:50,053 --> 00:44:52,333
Speaker 2: They are generally willing to work, often for short durations.

941
00:44:52,373 --> 00:44:54,533
Speaker 2: To find that journey. A tramp a person who travels

942
00:44:54,573 --> 00:44:57,893
Speaker 2: but avoids work whenever possible. Bum a person who never

943
00:44:57,933 --> 00:45:02,693
Speaker 2: travels nor works. A whino for someone who is addicted

944
00:45:02,733 --> 00:45:05,813
Speaker 2: to alcohol, often synonymous with an alcoholic or a vagrant.

945
00:45:06,053 --> 00:45:11,493
Speaker 2: Homeless for someone without permanent housing. Okay, yeah, so there

946
00:45:11,533 --> 00:45:14,493
Speaker 2: you go. So yeah I was. I guess I was

947
00:45:14,533 --> 00:45:17,533
Speaker 2: a hobo because I was traveling for work. So that

948
00:45:17,613 --> 00:45:19,773
Speaker 2: sums you up pretty well. Yeah, he good takes that one.

949
00:45:20,373 --> 00:45:23,533
Speaker 2: It was closer to a hobo than a tramp. I

950
00:45:23,573 --> 00:45:24,893
Speaker 2: was a bum. What am I talking about?

951
00:45:25,413 --> 00:45:25,613
Speaker 17: Rob?

952
00:45:25,653 --> 00:45:26,453
Speaker 3: How are you Vatee?

953
00:45:27,253 --> 00:45:27,493
Speaker 7: Yeah?

954
00:45:27,533 --> 00:45:28,172
Speaker 14: Good, thank you?

955
00:45:28,293 --> 00:45:29,093
Speaker 15: How are you guys?

956
00:45:29,093 --> 00:45:29,333
Speaker 2: Good?

957
00:45:29,373 --> 00:45:29,613
Speaker 5: God?

958
00:45:29,693 --> 00:45:32,293
Speaker 3: So hed shiking? Do you pick pick those guys up?

959
00:45:33,333 --> 00:45:33,812
Speaker 13: I do.

960
00:45:34,693 --> 00:45:36,573
Speaker 4: I still picked them up on the track every now

961
00:45:36,613 --> 00:45:38,453
Speaker 4: and then. I only worked a few days a week,

962
00:45:38,493 --> 00:45:41,453
Speaker 4: but I've owned a backpeppers and picked them for years

963
00:45:41,773 --> 00:45:45,853
Speaker 4: since nineteen ninety three. So a small business person, good

964
00:45:45,853 --> 00:45:49,533
Speaker 4: on you. I'm still hemmer, but I've got staff too.

965
00:45:50,133 --> 00:45:55,133
Speaker 4: I think I'm probably driving trucks to pay them. But anyway,

966
00:45:55,373 --> 00:45:57,893
Speaker 4: we used to have loads and loads of hitchhikers that

967
00:45:57,973 --> 00:46:00,213
Speaker 4: we used to do. A town man which had the

968
00:46:00,293 --> 00:46:05,573
Speaker 4: hitch hiking spot on spot X, but we don't get

969
00:46:05,653 --> 00:46:09,252
Speaker 4: so many anymore, but they're still there's still a few,

970
00:46:09,333 --> 00:46:12,213
Speaker 4: and there's still some interesting characters you meet, Like that

971
00:46:12,333 --> 00:46:14,573
Speaker 4: American guy. I've met him before on the road.

972
00:46:16,133 --> 00:46:19,053
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, nice guy.

973
00:46:19,333 --> 00:46:23,053
Speaker 4: Yeah it's the same one. But this guy's just as

974
00:46:23,053 --> 00:46:27,333
Speaker 4: you said, wash jiking around the world and recording his

975
00:46:27,333 --> 00:46:30,933
Speaker 4: his travels. Yeah, so I think it's the same one.

976
00:46:31,413 --> 00:46:33,973
Speaker 4: I've met some great people, I've met some not so

977
00:46:34,093 --> 00:46:38,172
Speaker 4: good ones. I think if they're standing on the side

978
00:46:38,173 --> 00:46:40,692
Speaker 4: of the road with a cigarette hanging out of their mouth,

979
00:46:41,933 --> 00:46:46,213
Speaker 4: then I'm sort of not so keen. But if there

980
00:46:46,253 --> 00:46:48,453
Speaker 4: with a peck and they look like visitors or.

981
00:46:48,853 --> 00:46:51,053
Speaker 14: You know, a key we student trying to get home from.

982
00:46:50,973 --> 00:46:55,093
Speaker 4: Varsity, well then I'm I'm happy to pick them up

983
00:46:55,133 --> 00:46:55,692
Speaker 4: for a chat.

984
00:46:57,093 --> 00:47:00,413
Speaker 2: Would you pick up more than one, you know, like

985
00:47:00,573 --> 00:47:04,293
Speaker 2: twos threes or is it just a single? Single single?

986
00:47:06,413 --> 00:47:10,773
Speaker 4: I've picked up a couple, usually a boy and girl,

987
00:47:12,333 --> 00:47:16,933
Speaker 4: but I don't think i'd be picking up a whole gang,

988
00:47:19,093 --> 00:47:22,373
Speaker 4: depending on who they were and what they looked like

989
00:47:22,533 --> 00:47:24,333
Speaker 4: and what sort of vehicle I was.

990
00:47:24,293 --> 00:47:26,493
Speaker 2: In, well speak of, like if there was five gang

991
00:47:26,533 --> 00:47:27,853
Speaker 2: members on the side of the road. Probably not going

992
00:47:27,893 --> 00:47:28,893
Speaker 2: to pick them up, rob.

993
00:47:30,693 --> 00:47:31,573
Speaker 14: Probably not.

994
00:47:32,133 --> 00:47:35,053
Speaker 4: But there again, I've had gang members stay at our place.

995
00:47:35,133 --> 00:47:37,733
Speaker 14: I had twenty four of them once and.

996
00:47:39,653 --> 00:47:43,533
Speaker 4: Their marker to motorcycle club I think it was back

997
00:47:43,573 --> 00:47:47,093
Speaker 4: in the day, and they asked if we could block

998
00:47:47,133 --> 00:47:51,333
Speaker 4: off the driveway so their bikes were secure, and they

999
00:47:51,453 --> 00:47:53,773
Speaker 4: got all the sofas out of the main lounge and

1000
00:47:54,093 --> 00:47:57,133
Speaker 4: had a sing along with all the little German girl backpackers.

1001
00:47:57,173 --> 00:48:01,453
Speaker 4: And it was very quiet and a pleasant summer's night,

1002
00:48:01,613 --> 00:48:05,173
Speaker 4: and they weren't any trouble and it was one of

1003
00:48:05,173 --> 00:48:10,893
Speaker 4: those I opening that you know, turns there to be

1004
00:48:11,053 --> 00:48:11,773
Speaker 4: quite pleasant.

1005
00:48:12,573 --> 00:48:14,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, never judge a book by its cover. But what

1006
00:48:15,213 --> 00:48:17,413
Speaker 2: is your backpackers called impacting?

1007
00:48:18,413 --> 00:48:19,293
Speaker 14: It's called the villa.

1008
00:48:19,653 --> 00:48:23,213
Speaker 2: The villa, Okay, I'll look that up. Llah, there we go,

1009
00:48:23,293 --> 00:48:25,413
Speaker 2: the lovely blue villa.

1010
00:48:25,653 --> 00:48:25,853
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1011
00:48:26,893 --> 00:48:28,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, part outside of that. When I was jumping on

1012
00:48:28,973 --> 00:48:31,093
Speaker 3: the ferry the last time I drove from christ it's

1013
00:48:31,173 --> 00:48:32,733
Speaker 3: to Auckland's beautiful.

1014
00:48:33,733 --> 00:48:40,853
Speaker 4: Very I've had such loom Mariscan stay there with his dog,

1015
00:48:42,093 --> 00:48:45,653
Speaker 4: and he's always been quite good for a flag. But

1016
00:48:46,053 --> 00:48:50,613
Speaker 4: I've got a fabulous Spanish manager from Barcelona, so I

1017
00:48:50,733 --> 00:48:53,373
Speaker 4: made her watch every episode of Faulty Towers which she

1018
00:48:53,453 --> 00:48:54,013
Speaker 4: got the job.

1019
00:48:56,613 --> 00:49:00,133
Speaker 2: You're not treating her like men? Well, Manuel, are you?

1020
00:49:00,133 --> 00:49:01,773
Speaker 14: No? No, she's a bit too fierce.

1021
00:49:02,573 --> 00:49:05,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rob, Why do you think people aren't? I mean,

1022
00:49:05,093 --> 00:49:07,013
Speaker 2: it's kind of sounds like an obvious I'm sure the

1023
00:49:07,613 --> 00:49:09,133
Speaker 2: answer might be quite obvious. But what do you think

1024
00:49:09,133 --> 00:49:11,213
Speaker 2: people are hit shriking less these days?

1025
00:49:13,293 --> 00:49:17,133
Speaker 4: I think that people can afford to put them on

1026
00:49:16,893 --> 00:49:24,013
Speaker 4: a plane. Their parents say they're not so people are

1027
00:49:24,013 --> 00:49:27,973
Speaker 4: more risk adverse these days, and there's probably more the

1028
00:49:27,973 --> 00:49:32,573
Speaker 4: perception of risk. I mean I left home at sixteen

1029
00:49:32,733 --> 00:49:36,093
Speaker 4: hitchhike to Taranaki and a few months later I was

1030
00:49:36,093 --> 00:49:39,573
Speaker 4: in Australia and I hitchhiked up and down, you know,

1031
00:49:39,733 --> 00:49:45,413
Speaker 4: sometimes with a surfboard, sometimes not. And nowadays I think

1032
00:49:45,533 --> 00:49:51,053
Speaker 4: kids are a lot softer, and they're a lot risk

1033
00:49:51,373 --> 00:49:56,053
Speaker 4: and risk adverse, and the appearents certainly are What.

1034
00:49:56,333 --> 00:49:58,493
Speaker 3: Are you You mentioned before that you've had the good

1035
00:49:58,533 --> 00:50:01,293
Speaker 3: hitchhikers and the bad hitchhikers. What makes a good hitchhiker?

1036
00:50:01,453 --> 00:50:03,933
Speaker 3: Is it that do you expect them to have good conversation,

1037
00:50:04,053 --> 00:50:05,933
Speaker 3: good chat while you're taking them where they need to be?

1038
00:50:07,293 --> 00:50:07,573
Speaker 5: Well?

1039
00:50:07,693 --> 00:50:10,653
Speaker 4: Half the time. Yes, yes, half the time I'm picking

1040
00:50:10,693 --> 00:50:15,453
Speaker 4: them up because it keeps me awake, depending on how

1041
00:50:16,093 --> 00:50:19,212
Speaker 4: far I'm driving, you know, nowadays it's usually just picked

1042
00:50:19,253 --> 00:50:23,373
Speaker 4: into Christier to back, but or if I go to

1043
00:50:23,413 --> 00:50:25,613
Speaker 4: Kai Kora for a surf, I'll pick pick one or

1044
00:50:25,613 --> 00:50:30,613
Speaker 4: two up and drop them off. But yeah, I expect

1045
00:50:30,653 --> 00:50:34,453
Speaker 4: a bit of conversation. I expect them not to be smelly.

1046
00:50:34,853 --> 00:50:35,093
Speaker 19: And I.

1047
00:50:37,613 --> 00:50:39,933
Speaker 4: Gave up cigarettes when I was twenty two.

1048
00:50:39,893 --> 00:50:41,173
Speaker 1: So I.

1049
00:50:42,653 --> 00:50:45,653
Speaker 4: Don't like the smell of nicotine in the car and

1050
00:50:45,733 --> 00:50:48,093
Speaker 4: close confinements to be fair, now.

1051
00:50:48,053 --> 00:50:50,533
Speaker 2: Rob, you said you had a couple of dodgy experiences,

1052
00:50:50,573 --> 00:50:51,493
Speaker 2: can you share those?

1053
00:50:54,733 --> 00:50:58,653
Speaker 4: Probably the same as most. You know, somebody changing gear

1054
00:50:58,693 --> 00:51:03,413
Speaker 4: and reaching over for another apparent lever that they thought

1055
00:51:03,453 --> 00:51:06,693
Speaker 4: they might be entitled to, and you know, the next

1056
00:51:07,373 --> 00:51:10,133
Speaker 4: time there was a availability of your stop.

1057
00:51:09,853 --> 00:51:14,253
Speaker 14: I was at the car and gone yeah. And I got.

1058
00:51:14,093 --> 00:51:16,652
Speaker 4: Picked up by a guy at North Island once who

1059
00:51:16,733 --> 00:51:18,973
Speaker 4: was telling me about his race car we were in

1060
00:51:19,533 --> 00:51:22,093
Speaker 4: and I was in a passenger's seat with no seat belt,

1061
00:51:22,213 --> 00:51:24,853
Speaker 4: the seat wasn't the heck, and I was surrounded by

1062
00:51:24,893 --> 00:51:28,813
Speaker 4: physic rods and he was tail gate at eighty mile

1063
00:51:28,853 --> 00:51:32,493
Speaker 4: an hour and telling me how good a race drive

1064
00:51:32,533 --> 00:51:33,453
Speaker 4: that he was going to be.

1065
00:51:33,893 --> 00:51:37,692
Speaker 7: That's zat that was terrifying, could be fun.

1066
00:51:37,813 --> 00:51:39,853
Speaker 2: Well, we're glad you survived that. You sound like a

1067
00:51:39,853 --> 00:51:42,293
Speaker 2: good man. And then good on you for running your

1068
00:51:42,293 --> 00:51:44,413
Speaker 2: small business with the villa and picked in. And then

1069
00:51:44,453 --> 00:51:46,652
Speaker 2: good on you for still picking up hitchhikers. You sound

1070
00:51:46,693 --> 00:51:48,652
Speaker 2: like a top blanke Rob, and thanks for bringing.

1071
00:51:48,373 --> 00:51:50,093
Speaker 4: Up all right.

1072
00:51:50,173 --> 00:51:51,973
Speaker 2: Cheers, cheers mate for a good man.

1073
00:51:52,053 --> 00:51:54,172
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty loved you from

1074
00:51:54,213 --> 00:51:56,613
Speaker 3: you your head shiking stories. Do you still do that today?

1075
00:51:56,773 --> 00:51:58,493
Speaker 3: And are you one of those people like Rob that

1076
00:51:58,573 --> 00:51:59,853
Speaker 3: continues to pick up the headshikers?

1077
00:51:59,853 --> 00:52:03,772
Speaker 2: So Texas is stop encouraging people to text to hadshike. No,

1078
00:52:03,853 --> 00:52:05,573
Speaker 2: I will not. You can't tell me what to do.

1079
00:52:06,373 --> 00:52:10,893
Speaker 2: Hatchshike everyone yeping, give up the terrolan, give up your

1080
00:52:11,013 --> 00:52:14,013
Speaker 2: ear points. Hit shike everyone, yep, everywhere, all the time.

1081
00:52:15,253 --> 00:52:17,053
Speaker 3: Come on through. I eatee hundred eighty ten eighty. It's

1082
00:52:17,053 --> 00:52:17,893
Speaker 3: twenty two past.

1083
00:52:17,733 --> 00:52:24,853
Speaker 1: Too, Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons. Call oh eight

1084
00:52:24,973 --> 00:52:28,133
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZEDD afternoon.

1085
00:52:28,213 --> 00:52:30,212
Speaker 3: It is twenty five past two we're talking about hitch

1086
00:52:30,333 --> 00:52:32,573
Speaker 3: high king, do you still do it? And have you

1087
00:52:32,573 --> 00:52:34,853
Speaker 3: picked up at shiker recently? And also your hitch hiking

1088
00:52:35,053 --> 00:52:38,093
Speaker 3: stories ide hundred eighty ten eighty as a number to

1089
00:52:38,093 --> 00:52:38,653
Speaker 3: call a couple.

1090
00:52:38,493 --> 00:52:39,333
Speaker 2: Of texts here.

1091
00:52:39,413 --> 00:52:41,253
Speaker 3: Gooday, guys, My brother picked up a guy with a

1092
00:52:41,253 --> 00:52:44,773
Speaker 3: guitar on his back once driving from Dunedin to christ Church.

1093
00:52:44,973 --> 00:52:46,853
Speaker 3: They cheted it for a bit, then asked him to

1094
00:52:46,853 --> 00:52:49,773
Speaker 3: play something on said guitar as the stereo was broken.

1095
00:52:49,933 --> 00:52:51,613
Speaker 3: The guy laughed and said he didn't know how to play,

1096
00:52:51,653 --> 00:52:52,693
Speaker 3: but it helped him get rights.

1097
00:52:53,733 --> 00:52:55,692
Speaker 2: What's that so he didn't he couldn't play the guitar.

1098
00:52:55,813 --> 00:52:59,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just had it because arguably it got more rights.

1099
00:53:00,053 --> 00:53:01,893
Speaker 2: I don't want someone of my guitar, my car playing

1100
00:53:01,893 --> 00:53:04,693
Speaker 2: the guitar. I wouldn't pick him up. Yeah, be anty

1101
00:53:04,693 --> 00:53:06,652
Speaker 2: If anything, you got some one of the backseats singing

1102
00:53:06,693 --> 00:53:10,212
Speaker 2: comboy an, that's not my vi any Welcome the show.

1103
00:53:11,093 --> 00:53:14,933
Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, hi Kean on your story.

1104
00:53:15,613 --> 00:53:18,373
Speaker 8: Yes, well, I was just thinking about the person beforehand

1105
00:53:18,413 --> 00:53:21,253
Speaker 8: who mentioned that he wouldn't pick up people that didn't

1106
00:53:21,293 --> 00:53:25,213
Speaker 8: have a backpack on or anything. Now I probably wouldn't

1107
00:53:25,213 --> 00:53:25,893
Speaker 8: do the same either.

1108
00:53:25,973 --> 00:53:26,653
Speaker 12: These days.

1109
00:53:26,693 --> 00:53:30,853
Speaker 8: But I came across a situation where I live in

1110
00:53:30,933 --> 00:53:33,333
Speaker 8: Napier and I've gone to the river for the night

1111
00:53:33,453 --> 00:53:35,973
Speaker 8: to camp, and in my camp a m and I

1112
00:53:36,053 --> 00:53:40,413
Speaker 8: see this elderly well, this kind of guy struggling to

1113
00:53:40,453 --> 00:53:42,692
Speaker 8: clean himself on the river, and I'm like, oh, that's

1114
00:53:42,693 --> 00:53:45,333
Speaker 8: pretty out there, you know, And he's behind the bushes.

1115
00:53:45,893 --> 00:53:47,733
Speaker 8: He puts on some clean clothes and he comes out

1116
00:53:47,733 --> 00:53:50,212
Speaker 8: of the bushes with a high's jacket and some nice

1117
00:53:50,213 --> 00:53:53,613
Speaker 8: clean pants, and he was so frail and fragile, he

1118
00:53:53,733 --> 00:53:56,293
Speaker 8: stumbling across this paddock of uneven ground to try and

1119
00:53:56,293 --> 00:53:58,893
Speaker 8: get back up onto the main road, obviously to carry

1120
00:53:58,893 --> 00:54:02,413
Speaker 8: on with his journey. Well, I can't stand this. So

1121
00:54:02,493 --> 00:54:05,652
Speaker 8: I pulled up and I said, hey, are you right?

1122
00:54:05,773 --> 00:54:06,453
Speaker 12: Did you a ride?

1123
00:54:06,973 --> 00:54:09,773
Speaker 8: Because yeah, I just want to get to you know,

1124
00:54:09,853 --> 00:54:12,053
Speaker 8: you're find this from Central Hawk, Spain, and I just

1125
00:54:12,133 --> 00:54:14,253
Speaker 8: need to get back to my family in change of

1126
00:54:14,293 --> 00:54:19,533
Speaker 8: space and then let me jumping. Come on. So I

1127
00:54:19,693 --> 00:54:21,933
Speaker 8: was on the other side of Napier, and I knew

1128
00:54:22,253 --> 00:54:26,013
Speaker 8: the safest place for him was at Eskdale Way towards Topork,

1129
00:54:27,813 --> 00:54:30,973
Speaker 8: so I just we went along. We went through the

1130
00:54:30,973 --> 00:54:33,573
Speaker 8: city and I took him out to Eskdale, tried to

1131
00:54:33,573 --> 00:54:35,773
Speaker 8: find him the longest stretch of road where the traffic

1132
00:54:35,773 --> 00:54:39,413
Speaker 8: could see him safe and safety pull over, made sure

1133
00:54:39,453 --> 00:54:41,853
Speaker 8: he was under a tree because it was a really

1134
00:54:41,893 --> 00:54:44,333
Speaker 8: really hot day. He didn't have any luggage.

1135
00:54:44,333 --> 00:54:44,973
Speaker 12: He had a little bit.

1136
00:54:44,893 --> 00:54:48,533
Speaker 8: Small pat with a change of clothes. I guessnt it

1137
00:54:49,093 --> 00:54:53,253
Speaker 8: he was? He was struggling. And yet what I'm so

1138
00:54:53,533 --> 00:54:56,173
Speaker 8: pleased I did that. And if i'd had money on me,

1139
00:54:56,373 --> 00:54:58,253
Speaker 8: I would have given him some money as well. But

1140
00:54:58,333 --> 00:55:00,373
Speaker 8: at least I knew in my heart i'd given him

1141
00:55:00,373 --> 00:55:04,853
Speaker 8: some safe to pack up seecause missus Jimney to see

1142
00:55:04,893 --> 00:55:05,413
Speaker 8: his family.

1143
00:55:06,333 --> 00:55:08,133
Speaker 3: Well, good on, yeah, I mean got on you for

1144
00:55:08,173 --> 00:55:10,853
Speaker 3: doing had any Clearly he needed someone to give him

1145
00:55:10,853 --> 00:55:12,893
Speaker 3: a bit of a shot. But did you, I mean,

1146
00:55:12,973 --> 00:55:14,693
Speaker 3: was there any part of you that thought, man, is

1147
00:55:14,733 --> 00:55:17,693
Speaker 3: this you know, potentially dangerous?

1148
00:55:18,493 --> 00:55:21,373
Speaker 8: No, he was so fragile and he could hardly walk.

1149
00:55:21,413 --> 00:55:23,573
Speaker 8: I don't know with the bad artriders or something or other.

1150
00:55:23,813 --> 00:55:24,172
Speaker 9: He was.

1151
00:55:24,373 --> 00:55:27,253
Speaker 8: He was in trouble physically and he was on a

1152
00:55:27,333 --> 00:55:29,213
Speaker 8: journey and that was all that I could see.

1153
00:55:29,493 --> 00:55:31,493
Speaker 2: Is that what it takes for you to pick someone

1154
00:55:31,573 --> 00:55:33,853
Speaker 2: up any they have to be in that state. What

1155
00:55:33,893 --> 00:55:36,172
Speaker 2: about a full nable body person with their thumb out.

1156
00:55:37,173 --> 00:55:38,773
Speaker 8: That's no, that's a really good question.

1157
00:55:39,853 --> 00:55:40,333
Speaker 22: I don't know.

1158
00:55:40,453 --> 00:55:42,213
Speaker 8: It was just a situation that I was in and

1159
00:55:42,253 --> 00:55:44,893
Speaker 8: I couldn't drive past it. I mean I've seen other

1160
00:55:44,933 --> 00:55:47,973
Speaker 8: people on the road without luggage beforehand and just thought,

1161
00:55:48,013 --> 00:55:54,293
Speaker 8: oh yeah, I mean, yeah, he's got to be careful

1162
00:55:54,333 --> 00:55:58,293
Speaker 8: these days. I guess you're right. I do remember, like

1163
00:55:58,653 --> 00:56:01,453
Speaker 8: as a young person myself, I put myself into lots

1164
00:56:01,453 --> 00:56:06,013
Speaker 8: of crazy situations, sits iking, and it's pretty frecking stupid

1165
00:56:06,013 --> 00:56:09,053
Speaker 8: ones sometimes, But what's the good ones as well? Lots

1166
00:56:09,053 --> 00:56:11,573
Speaker 8: of good stories. But you know, I just wanted to

1167
00:56:11,573 --> 00:56:14,133
Speaker 8: say that, you know, sometimes people just want to get

1168
00:56:14,773 --> 00:56:17,733
Speaker 8: yeah a bit and if they're on the benefit or whatever,

1169
00:56:17,853 --> 00:56:19,933
Speaker 8: and that they don't have anything, but they still have

1170
00:56:19,933 --> 00:56:22,613
Speaker 8: a thumb and they still have the announce to get

1171
00:56:22,613 --> 00:56:25,093
Speaker 8: out there and try to have a bit of a

1172
00:56:25,133 --> 00:56:28,453
Speaker 8: change of scenery or whatever. I mean, I don't even

1173
00:56:28,453 --> 00:56:31,133
Speaker 8: know how the oldest guy was. He looked he looked

1174
00:56:31,773 --> 00:56:35,093
Speaker 8: older than he probably was, just really worn out.

1175
00:56:36,253 --> 00:56:39,493
Speaker 12: And as you know, yeah, yeah it's my story.

1176
00:56:39,653 --> 00:56:41,293
Speaker 2: Oh good on you, Annie. It is a good thing

1177
00:56:41,333 --> 00:56:43,172
Speaker 2: to do, and you're quite right as song.

1178
00:56:43,173 --> 00:56:45,373
Speaker 3: As you got a thumb, you can hitchhike, and you

1179
00:56:45,373 --> 00:56:47,013
Speaker 3: should pick up people who need it. Oh, e one

1180
00:56:47,053 --> 00:56:49,053
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1181
00:56:49,133 --> 00:56:51,692
Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text as well. Love

1182
00:56:51,733 --> 00:56:53,813
Speaker 3: to hear from you if you still pick up hitchhikeers

1183
00:56:53,933 --> 00:56:56,173
Speaker 3: or if you hitchhike in the past, love your stories.

1184
00:56:56,253 --> 00:56:58,333
Speaker 2: This is an interesting point because wondering why there'sn't so

1185
00:56:58,333 --> 00:57:00,812
Speaker 2: many hitchhikers out there, someone's saying that, you know, there's

1186
00:57:00,853 --> 00:57:05,093
Speaker 2: now online methods of meeting up, so you can get

1187
00:57:05,093 --> 00:57:08,973
Speaker 2: a lift between cities if you can't afford it, and

1188
00:57:09,013 --> 00:57:10,973
Speaker 2: people can you know someone's driving between the city, they

1189
00:57:11,413 --> 00:57:15,053
Speaker 2: can link up over social media. And this person is saying,

1190
00:57:15,133 --> 00:57:18,253
Speaker 2: used to hitchoke, but now most truckies aren't allowed passengers.

1191
00:57:18,813 --> 00:57:22,853
Speaker 2: Companies and a security policies in h and R, so

1192
00:57:22,973 --> 00:57:25,693
Speaker 2: that source of rides, which were the best is largely

1193
00:57:25,733 --> 00:57:28,893
Speaker 2: not available anymore. Makes a lot of sense. That's interesting, yeah,

1194
00:57:28,933 --> 00:57:33,373
Speaker 2: because you know, truckies were probably your best bet a

1195
00:57:33,413 --> 00:57:35,053
Speaker 2: lot of the time for getting a ride.

1196
00:57:35,053 --> 00:57:36,893
Speaker 3: They needed a bit of company, But now the companies

1197
00:57:36,893 --> 00:57:37,973
Speaker 3: are saying, na, you can't do that.

1198
00:57:38,173 --> 00:57:41,613
Speaker 2: Once I was hitchoking out of Auckland to Wellington and

1199
00:57:42,373 --> 00:57:44,213
Speaker 2: trucky pulls me up and goes, there's a bed in

1200
00:57:44,213 --> 00:57:46,453
Speaker 2: the back, and I just jumped in the back and

1201
00:57:46,653 --> 00:57:48,653
Speaker 2: slept all the way. How good? Yeah? Yeah?

1202
00:57:49,013 --> 00:57:51,013
Speaker 3: Was it comfy? No, it was bouncing around all over

1203
00:57:51,013 --> 00:57:53,333
Speaker 3: the place. But you know, so thought the accounts our

1204
00:57:53,333 --> 00:57:55,613
Speaker 3: biggest can't be choosing. Yeah, all right, headlines coming up

1205
00:57:55,613 --> 00:57:57,493
Speaker 3: there and taking more of your calls. Oh eight hundred

1206
00:57:57,613 --> 00:58:00,373
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty and very short, We're gona have a

1207
00:58:00,413 --> 00:58:02,133
Speaker 3: chat to Ross. He was in the Rvy Army and

1208
00:58:02,213 --> 00:58:04,893
Speaker 3: used to always hitch home. That's coming up next. It

1209
00:58:05,013 --> 00:58:06,173
Speaker 3: is twenty nine to three.

1210
00:58:07,453 --> 00:58:11,493
Speaker 20: You've talked, said headlines with your ride, New Zealand's number

1211
00:58:11,493 --> 00:58:15,933
Speaker 20: one taxi ab Download your ride today. The Moss terrorist's

1212
00:58:15,973 --> 00:58:19,973
Speaker 20: appeal caught bed to vacate as guilty pleas continues. His

1213
00:58:20,093 --> 00:58:25,173
Speaker 20: defenses reiterated his claim his confinement was inhumane and effectively

1214
00:58:25,253 --> 00:58:28,453
Speaker 20: forced his pleas, saying he was entitled to the same

1215
00:58:28,493 --> 00:58:32,893
Speaker 20: treatment standards as all prisoners, and said First is renewing

1216
00:58:32,933 --> 00:58:36,093
Speaker 20: its call to do away with mardy seats, saying now's

1217
00:58:36,173 --> 00:58:39,613
Speaker 20: the time. With twenty seven percent of all MPs having

1218
00:58:39,653 --> 00:58:43,773
Speaker 20: a mardy background. Parliament Speaker Jerry Brownly has had to

1219
00:58:43,813 --> 00:58:47,413
Speaker 20: amend his asset registers back to two thousand and five

1220
00:58:47,813 --> 00:58:51,933
Speaker 20: after unused room spotted decades of errors. Some years he

1221
00:58:52,053 --> 00:58:56,013
Speaker 20: declared only some properties and one year declared one he

1222
00:58:56,133 --> 00:59:00,293
Speaker 20: didn't own. The government's multiplying New Zealand's rocket launch cap

1223
00:59:00,413 --> 00:59:05,173
Speaker 20: tenfold to one thousand. The tafa Qui National Aerospace Center

1224
00:59:05,253 --> 00:59:09,893
Speaker 20: says there's lots of international interest. Wellington's transmission gully is

1225
00:59:09,933 --> 00:59:11,973
Speaker 20: moving up a gear with a one hundred and ten

1226
00:59:12,053 --> 00:59:16,413
Speaker 20: kilometer in our limit enforce from Monday. Wellington, meyor Andrew

1227
00:59:16,453 --> 00:59:20,053
Speaker 20: Little commits to lowering commercial rates differential. You can find

1228
00:59:20,093 --> 00:59:22,693
Speaker 20: out more at Inzaid Herald Premium. Now back to matt

1229
00:59:22,733 --> 00:59:24,013
Speaker 20: Ethan Tyler Adam.

1230
00:59:23,733 --> 00:59:25,853
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Railean. We're talking about hitchhiking on

1231
00:59:25,893 --> 00:59:29,533
Speaker 3: the back of this American social media influencer. He's in

1232
00:59:29,573 --> 00:59:31,733
Speaker 3: the country, He's hitchhiked all over the world and he

1233
00:59:31,733 --> 00:59:34,533
Speaker 3: sees New Zealand is the best place to hitchhike.

1234
00:59:34,773 --> 00:59:36,293
Speaker 2: Never had to wait more than forty five minutes. He

1235
00:59:36,293 --> 00:59:38,413
Speaker 2: has another text on a similar vein to one we

1236
00:59:38,533 --> 00:59:41,453
Speaker 2: got just before the break stop talking about hitchhiking. It's

1237
00:59:41,493 --> 00:59:44,453
Speaker 2: not safe. You have a responsibility not to promote dangerous things.

1238
00:59:44,973 --> 00:59:48,533
Speaker 2: We're talking about hitchhiking. Later on, I got I'll share

1239
00:59:48,533 --> 00:59:49,933
Speaker 2: the story if we have time. With so many calls

1240
00:59:49,973 --> 00:59:54,253
Speaker 2: coming through about a very excitingly godgy time I had hitchhiking.

1241
00:59:54,253 --> 00:59:56,693
Speaker 3: Oh it's a doozy ross. How are you mate?

1242
00:59:57,093 --> 00:59:58,853
Speaker 5: Good day, guys, get a kendy.

1243
00:59:59,093 --> 01:00:02,893
Speaker 12: Sorry, hopefully we've got a couple of seconds afterwards for

1244
01:00:02,973 --> 01:00:07,213
Speaker 12: the fuel tank of pickup. That was interesting anyway. I

1245
01:00:07,453 --> 01:00:11,773
Speaker 12: just Burnham and the one was going home for the weekend.

1246
01:00:11,813 --> 01:00:14,613
Speaker 12: I just stay in uniform out on side of the

1247
01:00:14,653 --> 01:00:17,373
Speaker 12: main road and just stand there, no thumb, just stand

1248
01:00:17,413 --> 01:00:21,173
Speaker 12: there in uniform and get back with me, and invariably

1249
01:00:21,173 --> 01:00:24,773
Speaker 12: someone stops saying you're on a right soldier pretty much

1250
01:00:24,813 --> 01:00:29,013
Speaker 12: within a few minutes. Now, if by chance someone didn't,

1251
01:00:29,053 --> 01:00:32,573
Speaker 12: which I think happened once, maybe twice once anyway, and

1252
01:00:32,613 --> 01:00:35,333
Speaker 12: this is how far back it's going, I just walk

1253
01:00:35,373 --> 01:00:38,093
Speaker 12: across the road, because everywhere had a station. I just

1254
01:00:38,093 --> 01:00:40,013
Speaker 12: walk across the road and buy a ticket on the

1255
01:00:40,053 --> 01:00:43,693
Speaker 12: rail car right and heads south on that. So that

1256
01:00:43,773 --> 01:00:46,813
Speaker 12: was at six o'clock. But I did that, I think once,

1257
01:00:46,893 --> 01:00:49,293
Speaker 12: but I got picked up by a fuel tanket driver

1258
01:00:49,413 --> 01:00:53,613
Speaker 12: stopped and he's climbing, mate, So I climbed up in

1259
01:00:53,653 --> 01:00:56,893
Speaker 12: the cabin. I settled down and side, oh that's the song. Sorry.

1260
01:00:57,173 --> 01:01:01,973
Speaker 12: And anyway, we're heading down the main south road and

1261
01:01:02,013 --> 01:01:03,773
Speaker 12: he pulls out of smoke and puts in his mouth

1262
01:01:03,773 --> 01:01:07,653
Speaker 12: and lights it. And I said, excuse me, mate, and

1263
01:01:07,653 --> 01:01:10,693
Speaker 12: he said, well, fellow, you said, I said, you got

1264
01:01:10,693 --> 01:01:13,413
Speaker 12: a smoking me. I said, yeah, I smoked, and I

1265
01:01:13,493 --> 01:01:16,653
Speaker 12: pointed back to his body, see me his trailer, which

1266
01:01:16,733 --> 01:01:19,333
Speaker 12: was a fuel tank. I pointed about this. He said, oh,

1267
01:01:19,373 --> 01:01:20,973
Speaker 12: there's no problem here. He said, that's out there, not

1268
01:01:21,053 --> 01:01:27,013
Speaker 12: in here. But that's interesting, I said, didn't have to

1269
01:01:27,013 --> 01:01:29,253
Speaker 12: put my thumb out, just stood there in the uniform.

1270
01:01:29,573 --> 01:01:29,853
Speaker 7: Wow.

1271
01:01:30,133 --> 01:01:33,253
Speaker 12: Pretty much every time someone would voluntarily stop.

1272
01:01:33,613 --> 01:01:35,453
Speaker 2: Wow. So you know, they're like, thank you for your

1273
01:01:35,453 --> 01:01:37,773
Speaker 2: service type situation. So did you kind of test it?

1274
01:01:37,853 --> 01:01:39,413
Speaker 2: You're like, I'm not going to put my thumb out here,

1275
01:01:39,493 --> 01:01:40,573
Speaker 2: I'm just going to stand here.

1276
01:01:40,693 --> 01:01:41,693
Speaker 12: I didn't, you know.

1277
01:01:41,733 --> 01:01:44,093
Speaker 5: I just stood there and to see what happened.

1278
01:01:45,053 --> 01:01:47,773
Speaker 12: And then if I was going home another time or

1279
01:01:47,813 --> 01:01:50,093
Speaker 12: another week into whatever, I was doing the same and

1280
01:01:50,253 --> 01:01:53,213
Speaker 12: I said maybe once I was on the I think

1281
01:01:53,213 --> 01:01:57,653
Speaker 12: I was there for about two years at that Camp Burnham.

1282
01:01:58,893 --> 01:02:04,293
Speaker 12: And oh well I didn't have a car. I was

1283
01:02:04,333 --> 01:02:07,133
Speaker 12: only a young fellow. I'd like to think I still was.

1284
01:02:08,173 --> 01:02:11,933
Speaker 12: And so I just did that.

1285
01:02:13,733 --> 01:02:15,653
Speaker 3: Good on you're thinking for your call, I'd pick up

1286
01:02:15,653 --> 01:02:17,493
Speaker 3: a man in uniform. Makes a lot of sense that

1287
01:02:17,533 --> 01:02:18,973
Speaker 3: if you see someone on the side of the road

1288
01:02:19,013 --> 01:02:21,213
Speaker 3: they're in military fatigue, you're going to pick them. You

1289
01:02:21,213 --> 01:02:25,333
Speaker 3: can trust a military personnel, surely, Yeah, but you.

1290
01:02:25,293 --> 01:02:27,493
Speaker 2: Know they could always it could always be a serial

1291
01:02:27,573 --> 01:02:31,093
Speaker 2: killer that's been down to the latest, you know, down

1292
01:02:31,093 --> 01:02:35,013
Speaker 2: to a knop shop. There's always that army surpus store. Catherine,

1293
01:02:35,133 --> 01:02:36,493
Speaker 2: You're always picking up pitchhikers.

1294
01:02:37,413 --> 01:02:40,253
Speaker 23: Yeah, I am, I am. It was actually the comment

1295
01:02:40,253 --> 01:02:43,853
Speaker 23: about people being more risk adverse that made me call,

1296
01:02:43,933 --> 01:02:48,093
Speaker 23: because I had a young young guy recently who went

1297
01:02:48,133 --> 01:02:49,933
Speaker 23: round the front of my car, took a photo of

1298
01:02:49,933 --> 01:02:51,853
Speaker 23: my number plate and by the time he got in

1299
01:02:51,933 --> 01:02:53,173
Speaker 23: he said, I've just sent that to my mum.

1300
01:02:54,533 --> 01:02:54,933
Speaker 3: Weird.

1301
01:02:55,893 --> 01:02:58,533
Speaker 23: No, I thought that was really clever. There's a time stamp.

1302
01:02:59,173 --> 01:03:01,853
Speaker 23: His mum knows where he is, she's got my registration.

1303
01:03:02,013 --> 01:03:05,013
Speaker 23: If he goes missing. This is a starting point. Probably

1304
01:03:05,013 --> 01:03:06,093
Speaker 23: one of the fartest things.

1305
01:03:05,973 --> 01:03:09,053
Speaker 2: I've ever heard that didn't offend you. That's saying, yes,

1306
01:03:09,093 --> 01:03:10,093
Speaker 2: I've got a serial killer.

1307
01:03:10,613 --> 01:03:12,893
Speaker 23: No, No, I think he was going He was hiking

1308
01:03:12,893 --> 01:03:16,053
Speaker 23: the entire South Island. He was from up North and

1309
01:03:16,133 --> 01:03:18,213
Speaker 23: that's just what he was doing. And I thought, I

1310
01:03:18,213 --> 01:03:19,093
Speaker 23: thought that was brilliant.

1311
01:03:19,533 --> 01:03:21,253
Speaker 3: Oh they're smart, and good on you. You're a better

1312
01:03:21,293 --> 01:03:22,933
Speaker 3: person than me. But if I picked someone up and

1313
01:03:22,933 --> 01:03:24,813
Speaker 3: they did that, I'd be like, you know what, the

1314
01:03:24,853 --> 01:03:28,733
Speaker 3: office rescinded, you can't trust me now, then this ain't

1315
01:03:28,733 --> 01:03:29,093
Speaker 3: going to work.

1316
01:03:29,773 --> 01:03:31,933
Speaker 2: You, Catherine, You've taken a leap of trust for him

1317
01:03:32,293 --> 01:03:35,013
Speaker 2: by by pulling over, but he's not willing to take

1318
01:03:35,053 --> 01:03:37,053
Speaker 2: that leap of trust for you.

1319
01:03:37,053 --> 01:03:38,853
Speaker 23: No, it works to raze. I've got a system in

1320
01:03:38,893 --> 01:03:41,413
Speaker 23: place as well, where whenever I picked somebody up, I

1321
01:03:41,453 --> 01:03:43,933
Speaker 23: wrang my husband or my mother on the Blue Roos

1322
01:03:43,973 --> 01:03:45,973
Speaker 23: in the car so they can hear the conversation and say, hey,

1323
01:03:46,013 --> 01:03:48,093
Speaker 23: I've just picked someone up and we're hitting to you know,

1324
01:03:48,413 --> 01:03:50,333
Speaker 23: Amberly or wherever, so I'll give you a call when

1325
01:03:50,373 --> 01:03:53,373
Speaker 23: I get there. So if they are potentially planning to

1326
01:03:53,493 --> 01:03:56,293
Speaker 23: hijack the car, and you know, God on there as

1327
01:03:56,333 --> 01:03:58,853
Speaker 23: what else at least to my family, and someone's going

1328
01:03:58,853 --> 01:04:01,053
Speaker 23: to know and look for me within ten minute time frame.

1329
01:04:01,173 --> 01:04:03,533
Speaker 23: Kind of thing might put them off. No, I guarantee,

1330
01:04:03,613 --> 01:04:04,973
Speaker 23: but you know it has his work so far.

1331
01:04:05,573 --> 01:04:07,773
Speaker 2: Is there anything you look for in someone that you're

1332
01:04:07,773 --> 01:04:09,493
Speaker 2: going to go pick up Catherine?

1333
01:04:09,773 --> 01:04:11,213
Speaker 23: Yeah, I've got I've got her shoes on.

1334
01:04:12,653 --> 01:04:15,573
Speaker 2: I think that's a good one. Yeah, yeah, that's number one.

1335
01:04:16,333 --> 01:04:19,733
Speaker 23: And probably was never My husband would never pick up

1336
01:04:19,733 --> 01:04:21,653
Speaker 23: a hitchhiker. But there was one time that he draw

1337
01:04:21,733 --> 01:04:24,173
Speaker 23: the line. And it was just out of Queenstown and

1338
01:04:24,213 --> 01:04:26,533
Speaker 23: there was this young teenage girl while she was fifteen,

1339
01:04:26,653 --> 01:04:29,613
Speaker 23: and she had very minimalist clothing on, and she was

1340
01:04:29,653 --> 01:04:33,573
Speaker 23: walking down between ourtown and Queenstown by herself. And I deceived,

1341
01:04:33,613 --> 01:04:36,453
Speaker 23: my paint. You cannot let her continue to walk and

1342
01:04:36,613 --> 01:04:37,373
Speaker 23: get into god.

1343
01:04:37,293 --> 01:04:38,573
Speaker 15: Knows whose cart.

1344
01:04:38,653 --> 01:04:40,813
Speaker 23: We have to go back and get her, and so

1345
01:04:40,893 --> 01:04:42,213
Speaker 23: we did, and then we gave her the big pep

1346
01:04:42,213 --> 01:04:44,133
Speaker 23: talk all the bloody way into Queenstown and this is

1347
01:04:44,173 --> 01:04:46,493
Speaker 23: stupid and should be doing this. She probably did it

1348
01:04:46,573 --> 01:04:49,653
Speaker 23: to get back, but people like that, you can't I couldn't.

1349
01:04:49,373 --> 01:04:49,893
Speaker 15: Drive past it.

1350
01:04:50,053 --> 01:04:53,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, good on you. I feel like around that

1351
01:04:53,173 --> 01:04:58,413
Speaker 2: area and generally around ski towns in places that that

1352
01:04:58,493 --> 01:05:00,853
Speaker 2: there is more hitchhiking. And for some reason I think

1353
01:05:00,893 --> 01:05:02,573
Speaker 2: about when not when you know? I mean, obviously, if

1354
01:05:02,613 --> 01:05:05,093
Speaker 2: you're at the bottom of the someone's on the Crown Range,

1355
01:05:05,173 --> 01:05:07,053
Speaker 2: or you know, someone's at the bottom of the road

1356
01:05:07,133 --> 01:05:09,733
Speaker 2: up to the skifield or something, it's clear where they're going.

1357
01:05:10,493 --> 01:05:13,053
Speaker 2: But do you think there is I think there is, right,

1358
01:05:13,093 --> 01:05:15,533
Speaker 2: there's more likely to be tourists. It's just more of

1359
01:05:15,533 --> 01:05:18,813
Speaker 2: a thing. In Central Target I pick up a lot more.

1360
01:05:18,853 --> 01:05:21,213
Speaker 23: I don't go down there so much anymore. I go

1361
01:05:21,413 --> 01:05:24,013
Speaker 23: up and so, you know, towards Nelson and Leam, et cetera.

1362
01:05:24,133 --> 01:05:26,893
Speaker 23: And I've found in the last twenty years there're a

1363
01:05:26,893 --> 01:05:31,293
Speaker 23: lot less. There's a lot less sums out to be honest,

1364
01:05:31,493 --> 01:05:32,253
Speaker 23: I'm guessing it's.

1365
01:05:32,133 --> 01:05:33,173
Speaker 15: The risk of birth thing.

1366
01:05:33,573 --> 01:05:36,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, interesting. Catherine, thank you very much for giving

1367
01:05:36,973 --> 01:05:38,733
Speaker 3: us a buzz. What a great caller. Oh one hundred

1368
01:05:38,733 --> 01:05:41,213
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is that number to call? Kenny

1369
01:05:41,213 --> 01:05:43,493
Speaker 3: here your hitchhiking stories. Is New Zealand a good place

1370
01:05:43,533 --> 01:05:44,133
Speaker 3: to hitchhike.

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01:05:44,573 --> 01:05:47,053
Speaker 2: Hey guys, great show. Thank you as always, Thank you

1372
01:05:47,133 --> 01:05:49,053
Speaker 2: hitchhike is as long as the person is making an

1373
01:05:49,053 --> 01:05:51,533
Speaker 2: effort to get to where they are going, i e. Walking,

1374
01:05:51,573 --> 01:05:53,613
Speaker 2: I will pick them up. If they're just standing there

1375
01:05:53,613 --> 01:05:56,093
Speaker 2: with a sign, well bad luck. Make an effort. See

1376
01:05:56,253 --> 01:05:58,373
Speaker 2: when I used to hitchhike back when I was, you know,

1377
01:05:58,453 --> 01:06:01,013
Speaker 2: in my early twenties and late teens, that was a

1378
01:06:01,053 --> 01:06:03,173
Speaker 2: big thing. People would say. So you'd make it so

1379
01:06:03,213 --> 01:06:06,133
Speaker 2: you're just at least walking along the road. Yeah, right,

1380
01:06:06,293 --> 01:06:09,133
Speaker 2: even if you're walking slowly, because the area is there's

1381
01:06:09,133 --> 01:06:11,413
Speaker 2: only some areas you can be whether people can pull over,

1382
01:06:12,213 --> 01:06:14,333
Speaker 2: So you'd end up walking along a bit and then

1383
01:06:14,413 --> 01:06:16,653
Speaker 2: going back and walking along it again, just because it

1384
01:06:16,933 --> 01:06:18,573
Speaker 2: meant a lot to people that you were trying to

1385
01:06:18,573 --> 01:06:19,813
Speaker 2: walk down the road as if you were going to

1386
01:06:19,853 --> 01:06:22,653
Speaker 2: be able to walk from I don't know, Tomruda, Christ Jewish.

1387
01:06:23,053 --> 01:06:24,813
Speaker 3: You know, at least you look like you're making an

1388
01:06:24,853 --> 01:06:26,213
Speaker 3: effort to get to where you're going to go.

1389
01:06:26,533 --> 01:06:28,773
Speaker 2: You're out by Washdike and you're just walking along a

1390
01:06:28,813 --> 01:06:30,253
Speaker 2: little bit, and then you go back and you walk

1391
01:06:30,253 --> 01:06:31,173
Speaker 2: along a little bit further.

1392
01:06:31,333 --> 01:06:34,573
Speaker 3: Great strategy, right, it is eighteen to three. Taking more

1393
01:06:34,573 --> 01:06:36,293
Speaker 3: of your calls. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1394
01:06:36,373 --> 01:06:36,933
Speaker 3: is that number?

1395
01:06:38,013 --> 01:06:41,613
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons taking your calls on

1396
01:06:41,933 --> 01:06:44,613
Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty with Skoda. Can you

1397
01:06:44,653 --> 01:06:47,973
Speaker 1: crack the code? Please go toa codes every Day news talks.

1398
01:06:47,973 --> 01:06:50,293
Speaker 3: They'd be afternoon. It is sixteen to three.

1399
01:06:50,733 --> 01:06:52,533
Speaker 2: I had an old maid who hitched with a small

1400
01:06:52,613 --> 01:06:55,133
Speaker 2: bike wheel up in Bay of Plenty. They thought he

1401
01:06:55,173 --> 01:06:57,173
Speaker 2: was heading to the local garage for a punch repair.

1402
01:06:57,413 --> 01:07:00,053
Speaker 2: Always just going to the local pub. That's smart. Seeing

1403
01:07:00,053 --> 01:07:02,893
Speaker 2: your similar story here, hey, boys, I picked up a

1404
01:07:02,973 --> 01:07:07,413
Speaker 2: hitchhiker State Highway sixteen between Welsford and Co Kappa Papa.

1405
01:07:07,653 --> 01:07:10,573
Speaker 2: He was in there with a bag and a gas can.

1406
01:07:10,813 --> 01:07:12,573
Speaker 2: Of course, I assumed he'd run out of gas. No,

1407
01:07:12,733 --> 01:07:14,653
Speaker 2: he proceeded to tell me how he just carries the

1408
01:07:14,693 --> 01:07:17,253
Speaker 2: gas can because it gets him a ride much quicker

1409
01:07:17,293 --> 01:07:21,293
Speaker 2: than just a lone dude standing in the middle of nowhere. Unsurprisingly,

1410
01:07:21,413 --> 01:07:24,333
Speaker 2: goes on to tell me about his massive glass barbecue

1411
01:07:24,333 --> 01:07:27,573
Speaker 2: habit and all the craziness that went with it. Just

1412
01:07:27,613 --> 01:07:29,333
Speaker 2: the other day, my mate started to tell me the

1413
01:07:29,373 --> 01:07:34,733
Speaker 2: exact same story. He was also sucking. Oh that's great, fantastic,

1414
01:07:35,333 --> 01:07:39,453
Speaker 2: Wayne says, when a hitchhuker gets in my car and

1415
01:07:39,493 --> 01:07:42,693
Speaker 2: says he's not a serial killer, I always say, of course,

1416
01:07:42,693 --> 01:07:45,533
Speaker 2: you know all of the chances of two serial killers

1417
01:07:45,533 --> 01:07:48,453
Speaker 2: being a car at the same time. Classic brilliantly brilliant

1418
01:07:48,453 --> 01:07:49,693
Speaker 2: from you Dean.

1419
01:07:51,133 --> 01:07:53,573
Speaker 13: Yeah, good a guys. I used to have a really

1420
01:07:53,573 --> 01:07:56,773
Speaker 13: cool job when I was younger as his territory sales

1421
01:07:56,853 --> 01:07:59,573
Speaker 13: rep and from walk from my I had slung an

1422
01:07:59,613 --> 01:08:04,133
Speaker 13: a down to suck down to topol and you know,

1423
01:08:04,373 --> 01:08:07,853
Speaker 13: I used to love picking up the shikers because I

1424
01:08:07,893 --> 01:08:11,693
Speaker 13: was kind of the same age as them and it

1425
01:08:11,733 --> 01:08:15,373
Speaker 13: was really enjoyable. They're all in the main international hitchhikers,

1426
01:08:16,133 --> 01:08:19,452
Speaker 13: and it was just a lot of fun and just

1427
01:08:19,532 --> 01:08:23,173
Speaker 13: learning about them and me about as achieving with you

1428
01:08:23,213 --> 01:08:26,452
Speaker 13: know where I lived, and so that was really cool.

1429
01:08:26,452 --> 01:08:29,132
Speaker 13: And I think the reason I used to do it

1430
01:08:29,293 --> 01:08:31,652
Speaker 13: was that when I was younger, I was a said

1431
01:08:32,452 --> 01:08:35,933
Speaker 13: at high school and up to my early twenties, I

1432
01:08:36,053 --> 01:08:38,412
Speaker 13: used to hit chrike myself and it was a bit

1433
01:08:38,452 --> 01:08:42,812
Speaker 13: of a quick pro quoe I and yeah, and because

1434
01:08:42,893 --> 01:08:47,093
Speaker 13: I loved it as a young teenager early twenty never

1435
01:08:47,173 --> 01:08:49,213
Speaker 13: any issues. A lot of trick you used to pick

1436
01:08:49,293 --> 01:08:53,213
Speaker 13: me up, and I carried on that as a sales rep.

1437
01:08:54,333 --> 01:08:56,772
Speaker 13: And look, the reason I don't do it now, well,

1438
01:08:57,333 --> 01:09:01,092
Speaker 13: you know, those hitchhikers are now, you know, probably younger

1439
01:09:01,093 --> 01:09:03,932
Speaker 13: than my own kids. And there's I suppose I've moved

1440
01:09:03,933 --> 01:09:07,013
Speaker 13: on from that. But it was a great time at

1441
01:09:07,053 --> 01:09:10,093
Speaker 13: that in those years. So I think New Zealand in

1442
01:09:10,133 --> 01:09:14,772
Speaker 13: those days in the eighties, late eighties, early nineties, it's

1443
01:09:14,812 --> 01:09:17,892
Speaker 13: a pretty cool time to both pit choke and pick

1444
01:09:17,973 --> 01:09:22,013
Speaker 13: up the trikers. So it's good to see from an

1445
01:09:22,053 --> 01:09:26,253
Speaker 13: American guy that it's continuing, because I'm not one of

1446
01:09:26,333 --> 01:09:29,093
Speaker 13: those people, as an old fellow, that picks up pitt

1447
01:09:29,093 --> 01:09:29,892
Speaker 13: strikers anymore.

1448
01:09:31,053 --> 01:09:33,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if a lot of the people not

1449
01:09:33,412 --> 01:09:35,173
Speaker 2: picking up hat trick beers, although this guy said he

1450
01:09:35,213 --> 01:09:38,532
Speaker 2: was sometimes getting picked up in ten cars. So just

1451
01:09:38,652 --> 01:09:40,972
Speaker 2: my feeling is that people pick up pat strikers less.

1452
01:09:41,213 --> 01:09:44,572
Speaker 2: It's just the amount of movies we've seen now, amount

1453
01:09:44,612 --> 01:09:48,692
Speaker 2: of stories we've heard. It'd be interesting to know it's

1454
01:09:48,692 --> 01:09:51,892
Speaker 2: probably no more dangerous now than it ever was. I mean,

1455
01:09:51,933 --> 01:09:54,293
Speaker 2: you're going down mainly in New Zealand, there's only one road.

1456
01:09:54,532 --> 01:09:58,692
Speaker 2: You're just going State Highway one, right, Yes, right, yeah,

1457
01:09:59,492 --> 01:10:01,253
Speaker 2: I mean there's there are much of a Wolf Creek

1458
01:10:01,293 --> 01:10:04,293
Speaker 2: type situation in New Zealand. I don't know, but it'd

1459
01:10:04,293 --> 01:10:07,732
Speaker 2: be interesting to know if the amount of incidents happened

1460
01:10:07,732 --> 01:10:09,452
Speaker 2: with hit shok. It'd be hard to say. If there's

1461
01:10:09,492 --> 01:10:12,932
Speaker 2: less hitchhikers, then there's that'd be very hard dated to get,

1462
01:10:12,933 --> 01:10:14,892
Speaker 2: wouldn't it. If no one's doing it, then you don't

1463
01:10:14,893 --> 01:10:18,213
Speaker 2: have as much data. But I don't know. I wonder

1464
01:10:18,213 --> 01:10:20,093
Speaker 2: if it's just a perception that it's more dangerous now

1465
01:10:20,133 --> 01:10:22,092
Speaker 2: and that New Zealand has become a more dangerous place,

1466
01:10:22,372 --> 01:10:23,972
Speaker 2: it might have become a less dangerous place. A lot

1467
01:10:23,973 --> 01:10:27,933
Speaker 2: of crime statistics have gone down in New Zealand. Very true. Yeah,

1468
01:10:27,973 --> 01:10:29,812
Speaker 2: but good on you, Dean, thank you for calling one.

1469
01:10:29,853 --> 01:10:31,892
Speaker 3: If it's a generational thing as well, that you know,

1470
01:10:31,933 --> 01:10:34,492
Speaker 3: if you were a hitchhiker in your youth, as Dean said,

1471
01:10:34,612 --> 01:10:36,732
Speaker 3: you feel more of an onus and you feel more

1472
01:10:36,772 --> 01:10:40,492
Speaker 3: comfortable picking those guys up. But with millennials, you know

1473
01:10:40,532 --> 01:10:43,772
Speaker 3: whether they actually hitchhiked in their youth. I didn't hitchhike much,

1474
01:10:43,772 --> 01:10:46,173
Speaker 3: so maybe it's a generational thing as well. A few

1475
01:10:46,173 --> 01:10:48,692
Speaker 3: texts coming through on nine two nine to two.

1476
01:10:50,812 --> 01:10:53,333
Speaker 2: Well, okay, I was in the Territorials with a guy.

1477
01:10:53,612 --> 01:10:56,253
Speaker 2: He turned out to be a serial pedophile with multiple

1478
01:10:56,293 --> 01:10:59,133
Speaker 2: convictions over thirty years. So you can't trust everyone in

1479
01:10:59,133 --> 01:11:02,492
Speaker 2: a military uniform. Okay, Well that's the territorials, isn't it

1480
01:11:03,293 --> 01:11:03,932
Speaker 2: very true?

1481
01:11:04,133 --> 01:11:06,213
Speaker 3: All right, we've got to play some messages, but we'll

1482
01:11:06,253 --> 01:11:08,333
Speaker 3: be back very shortly. Oh, eight hundred and eighty two.

1483
01:11:08,372 --> 01:11:09,532
Speaker 3: In eighty is another to.

1484
01:11:09,452 --> 01:11:13,053
Speaker 1: Call the issues that affect you and a bit of

1485
01:11:13,093 --> 01:11:16,372
Speaker 1: fun along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons

1486
01:11:16,572 --> 01:11:18,173
Speaker 1: News TALKS'B.

1487
01:11:18,973 --> 01:11:20,492
Speaker 3: News talks THEREB it is eight to three.

1488
01:11:20,853 --> 01:11:23,532
Speaker 6: Are you ready to crack the Scoda code?

1489
01:11:24,013 --> 01:11:26,052
Speaker 3: There we go. If you've been to the Scoda website

1490
01:11:26,093 --> 01:11:29,333
Speaker 3: for today's scoter code but needs some help, here is

1491
01:11:29,412 --> 01:11:30,092
Speaker 3: your clue.

1492
01:11:30,412 --> 01:11:34,972
Speaker 2: You'll find it where the ocean meets adrenaline. That clue again,

1493
01:11:35,173 --> 01:11:37,653
Speaker 2: you'll find it where the ocean meets adrenaline.

1494
01:11:37,893 --> 01:11:41,652
Speaker 3: Interesting, slightly cryptic clue today, but we're confident you'll crack

1495
01:11:41,692 --> 01:11:43,852
Speaker 3: the code. So make sure you're in to win a

1496
01:11:43,893 --> 01:11:47,092
Speaker 3: trip for two to the Tour de France at Skoda

1497
01:11:47,293 --> 01:11:50,972
Speaker 3: dot co dot in Z. That is a fantastic prize,

1498
01:11:51,013 --> 01:11:53,572
Speaker 3: so that website against Coda dot co dot in z.

1499
01:11:53,692 --> 01:11:57,372
Speaker 3: I'll keep practicing the Tour de France, but get in now.

1500
01:11:57,412 --> 01:11:59,612
Speaker 3: That is a fantastic price. Right back to our discussion

1501
01:11:59,973 --> 01:12:04,173
Speaker 3: about hitchhiking, don how are you yeah?

1502
01:12:04,253 --> 01:12:04,492
Speaker 7: Good?

1503
01:12:04,492 --> 01:12:07,093
Speaker 15: Thank you yeah. I used to hitchhike quite a bit

1504
01:12:07,213 --> 01:12:11,492
Speaker 15: in the early set for the benefit of the benefit

1505
01:12:11,532 --> 01:12:15,452
Speaker 15: of younger listens. At that time, very few students could

1506
01:12:15,572 --> 01:12:20,573
Speaker 15: afford cars. If you're a panel beater or an apprenticeship,

1507
01:12:20,812 --> 01:12:23,093
Speaker 15: probably had one something that blew out a lot of

1508
01:12:23,133 --> 01:12:27,213
Speaker 15: smoke though. Anyway, I used to hitchhike from Auckland, where

1509
01:12:27,213 --> 01:12:31,972
Speaker 15: I was a student, back to Dargaball and on one

1510
01:12:31,973 --> 01:12:35,652
Speaker 15: occasion I caught the bus over to take a pin

1511
01:12:35,692 --> 01:12:38,812
Speaker 15: in it where they made the way ended and I

1512
01:12:38,853 --> 01:12:42,293
Speaker 15: started hitchhiking. Got picked up very quickly by a guy

1513
01:12:42,893 --> 01:12:46,412
Speaker 15: in a very nice car, and hitchhikers usually don't get

1514
01:12:46,452 --> 01:12:48,852
Speaker 15: picked up by nice cars, so they didn't then. And

1515
01:12:48,893 --> 01:12:50,333
Speaker 15: this one was a Krasler Valiance.

1516
01:12:50,372 --> 01:12:51,892
Speaker 2: It was a new one, beautiful night.

1517
01:12:52,973 --> 01:12:55,372
Speaker 15: The guy said to me he was the captain of

1518
01:12:55,412 --> 01:12:58,452
Speaker 15: the ship up at Marston Point. He just picked up

1519
01:12:58,452 --> 01:13:00,972
Speaker 15: his brand new car and he was going up there

1520
01:13:01,053 --> 01:13:05,532
Speaker 15: to meet his ship. All went well until we got

1521
01:13:05,572 --> 01:13:09,972
Speaker 15: to build. We headed for Albany, and after a while

1522
01:13:10,093 --> 01:13:13,852
Speaker 15: I noticed that the registration sticker on his car was

1523
01:13:13,893 --> 01:13:17,972
Speaker 15: a bit different. It was a rental car. I thought,

1524
01:13:18,372 --> 01:13:23,052
Speaker 15: this guy isn't quite up front, you know, not quite straight. Anyway,

1525
01:13:23,133 --> 01:13:28,092
Speaker 15: arrived at Albany and he wanted to stop for a beer,

1526
01:13:28,612 --> 01:13:31,013
Speaker 15: asked me everyone to come in, and I was too

1527
01:13:31,093 --> 01:13:33,173
Speaker 15: young to drunk anyway, We twenty won to drink on

1528
01:13:33,173 --> 01:13:38,572
Speaker 15: those days. He didn't always obey and I said, no things,

1529
01:13:38,973 --> 01:13:41,333
Speaker 15: I'll get out and keep head shaking at things. Thanks

1530
01:13:41,412 --> 01:13:45,293
Speaker 15: very much. So there was something very strange about that character.

1531
01:13:46,053 --> 01:13:49,213
Speaker 15: Usually the rides I got the good days right.

1532
01:13:49,333 --> 01:13:51,772
Speaker 2: So he said he owned the car, but he but

1533
01:13:51,893 --> 01:13:53,733
Speaker 2: he didn't.

1534
01:13:53,732 --> 01:13:54,532
Speaker 7: It was a rental car.

1535
01:13:55,293 --> 01:13:57,973
Speaker 3: What do you suspect he was gonna do if you

1536
01:13:58,013 --> 01:14:00,293
Speaker 3: went in for that beer? What was going through your head?

1537
01:14:02,173 --> 01:14:04,412
Speaker 15: I don't know. I wasn't there to find out.

1538
01:14:04,973 --> 01:14:07,092
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, good on you don Thanks for calling.

1539
01:14:07,372 --> 01:14:09,372
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Peter.

1540
01:14:11,053 --> 01:14:11,293
Speaker 24: Kba.

1541
01:14:12,213 --> 01:14:12,772
Speaker 25: I'm all right.

1542
01:14:12,812 --> 01:14:14,852
Speaker 21: Things, I'm going.

1543
01:14:14,732 --> 01:14:20,412
Speaker 25: Back sixty odd years I was. I'm the seventies now,

1544
01:14:20,492 --> 01:14:23,892
Speaker 25: and I was a young fellow around Wanaka working on

1545
01:14:23,933 --> 01:14:29,052
Speaker 25: a high country station and driving along. Back then, everybody

1546
01:14:29,133 --> 01:14:32,612
Speaker 25: had long hair and happie type stuff. And here's a

1547
01:14:32,652 --> 01:14:35,612
Speaker 25: guy wandering along the road, and I picked him up

1548
01:14:36,372 --> 01:14:39,732
Speaker 25: and took him to Wantaka, and I took him off

1549
01:14:39,853 --> 01:14:42,972
Speaker 25: probably twenty five k out of my way, because oh

1550
01:14:43,053 --> 01:14:46,092
Speaker 25: we got on all right. And anyway, went to stop

1551
01:14:46,213 --> 01:14:48,733
Speaker 25: to let him out, and he said, oh, thiets Man,

1552
01:14:49,133 --> 01:14:51,892
Speaker 25: he didn't have one of these. And he gave me

1553
01:14:51,973 --> 01:14:56,372
Speaker 25: this silver paper wrapped little tube that what the hell

1554
01:14:56,452 --> 01:14:59,372
Speaker 25: is this here? And as I say, I was as

1555
01:14:59,412 --> 01:15:03,093
Speaker 25: green as grass, and I had a vague idea what

1556
01:15:03,133 --> 01:15:03,532
Speaker 25: it was.

1557
01:15:03,612 --> 01:15:06,212
Speaker 7: Anyway, I went home, and back in those.

1558
01:15:06,053 --> 01:15:08,093
Speaker 25: Days, all the old musters and that all used to

1559
01:15:08,133 --> 01:15:13,652
Speaker 25: s pipes. And I'll give this thing a bit of

1560
01:15:13,652 --> 01:15:18,612
Speaker 25: a go, and so so we old me. I put

1561
01:15:18,652 --> 01:15:21,412
Speaker 25: the whole bloody thing in it and smoked.

1562
01:15:21,013 --> 01:15:21,852
Speaker 12: It all in one go.

1563
01:15:23,893 --> 01:15:24,372
Speaker 2: Great night.

1564
01:15:25,652 --> 01:15:27,852
Speaker 25: Well, I was lying on my bed reading a book,

1565
01:15:27,893 --> 01:15:31,492
Speaker 25: and next minute my toes started to tangle, and then

1566
01:15:31,812 --> 01:15:33,772
Speaker 25: what I thought the top of my head was going.

1567
01:15:33,732 --> 01:15:34,293
Speaker 6: To come off.

1568
01:15:35,133 --> 01:15:37,093
Speaker 25: It scared the hell out of me.

1569
01:15:37,173 --> 01:15:38,333
Speaker 15: I thought I was going to die.

1570
01:15:39,013 --> 01:15:42,532
Speaker 25: My heart was just about thumping out of my chest.

1571
01:15:42,572 --> 01:15:45,412
Speaker 25: And I lay there for about two or three hours

1572
01:15:45,492 --> 01:15:49,412
Speaker 25: just fighting this, and then I finally went to sleep.

1573
01:15:49,492 --> 01:15:53,572
Speaker 25: And so I've never touched drugs since it's probably did

1574
01:15:53,732 --> 01:15:54,333
Speaker 25: me a favor.

1575
01:15:54,372 --> 01:15:56,772
Speaker 2: At what point did at what point you said you're

1576
01:15:56,772 --> 01:15:58,732
Speaker 2: green as grass, but you've obviously been handed some grass.

1577
01:15:58,732 --> 01:16:03,173
Speaker 2: At what point did you realize that you'd been smoking cannabis?

1578
01:16:03,213 --> 01:16:07,133
Speaker 25: Well, I wasn't quite that green. I knew vaguely what

1579
01:16:07,173 --> 01:16:09,532
Speaker 25: it was, and I knew what to do with it

1580
01:16:09,572 --> 01:16:12,572
Speaker 25: because I've seen others, but I wasn't really around on

1581
01:16:12,652 --> 01:16:16,052
Speaker 25: those days. Yeah, my circle of friends, Peter.

1582
01:16:16,053 --> 01:16:16,932
Speaker 2: What do you call Peter.

1583
01:16:17,093 --> 01:16:19,013
Speaker 3: Great story. We're going to carry this on O eight

1584
01:16:19,133 --> 01:16:21,812
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty keen on your hitch hiking stories.

1585
01:16:21,893 --> 01:16:23,492
Speaker 2: News is next.

1586
01:16:25,452 --> 01:16:29,133
Speaker 1: Your home for instateful and entertaining talk. It's Matt Heath

1587
01:16:29,133 --> 01:16:33,132
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams Afternoons with Skoda on News Talk ZB.

1588
01:16:33,412 --> 01:16:36,293
Speaker 3: Six PAS three. We're talking about hitchhiking in New Zealand.

1589
01:16:36,293 --> 01:16:37,732
Speaker 3: This is on the back of a story about an

1590
01:16:37,732 --> 01:16:40,052
Speaker 3: American feller. He's here in New Zealand and he reckons

1591
01:16:40,053 --> 01:16:42,772
Speaker 3: New Zealand is the best place to hitchhikes. We are

1592
01:16:42,893 --> 01:16:45,452
Speaker 3: taking your stories on O eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1593
01:16:46,053 --> 01:16:48,293
Speaker 3: Very soon we're going to hear from you, Matt about

1594
01:16:48,333 --> 01:16:50,892
Speaker 3: quite a hairy situation you got involved in.

1595
01:16:51,133 --> 01:16:54,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, things got out of control when I finally got

1596
01:16:54,133 --> 01:17:00,253
Speaker 2: picked up in Washdike North, just outside of Timaru. Yeah,

1597
01:17:00,372 --> 01:17:02,133
Speaker 2: you want to put your hand down quite quickly when

1598
01:17:02,133 --> 01:17:05,093
Speaker 2: you see that it's a gang vehicle and there's like

1599
01:17:05,133 --> 01:17:07,532
Speaker 2: about four dudes in it. But then you get in

1600
01:17:07,532 --> 01:17:09,452
Speaker 2: that situation where you want to bring your hand down,

1601
01:17:09,492 --> 01:17:11,173
Speaker 2: but you haven't and you don't want to be seen

1602
01:17:11,173 --> 01:17:12,532
Speaker 2: to bring in your hand to how to say it,

1603
01:17:12,732 --> 01:17:15,492
Speaker 2: you know, it gets complicated. I may or may not

1604
01:17:15,492 --> 01:17:18,452
Speaker 2: see that story. Stephen, welcome to the show. So you've

1605
01:17:18,452 --> 01:17:20,532
Speaker 2: got a headshiking story.

1606
01:17:22,013 --> 01:17:24,413
Speaker 7: I wouldn't call it fantastic. It's probably unusual.

1607
01:17:24,612 --> 01:17:28,893
Speaker 3: I married my hitchhiker, well played, well played Stephen.

1608
01:17:29,772 --> 01:17:31,773
Speaker 7: Picked her up when it was back in the seventies

1609
01:17:31,812 --> 01:17:33,812
Speaker 7: when it was a bit more safer on the roads

1610
01:17:33,812 --> 01:17:37,413
Speaker 7: and what it is now. But she was actually hitchhiking

1611
01:17:37,452 --> 01:17:40,772
Speaker 7: with her being boyfriend, and I just moved up to

1612
01:17:40,853 --> 01:17:45,612
Speaker 7: the area and I usually never had a problem with

1613
01:17:45,772 --> 01:17:48,892
Speaker 7: picking up hatch shikers. I was just in my very

1614
01:17:48,893 --> 01:17:53,372
Speaker 7: early twenties and picked her up. Anyway, long story short,

1615
01:17:53,452 --> 01:17:55,412
Speaker 7: she must have liked to cut of my jib, because

1616
01:17:55,732 --> 01:17:58,053
Speaker 7: three years later we were married and went on to

1617
01:17:58,093 --> 01:18:01,812
Speaker 7: have three kids. Not together anymore. We made twenty five years,

1618
01:18:01,812 --> 01:18:03,853
Speaker 7: but I think I exhorted an the patient.

1619
01:18:05,412 --> 01:18:07,333
Speaker 2: So Han just to go back a little bit. So

1620
01:18:07,492 --> 01:18:09,773
Speaker 2: she was with her boy friend. How did you reconnect

1621
01:18:10,333 --> 01:18:11,612
Speaker 2: after the hit shaking situation?

1622
01:18:12,013 --> 01:18:15,492
Speaker 7: Oh, we would just see each other in passing effect.

1623
01:18:16,213 --> 01:18:17,612
Speaker 7: There was a bit of a break and then I

1624
01:18:17,652 --> 01:18:20,452
Speaker 7: started a new job and I was walking down Lampton

1625
01:18:20,532 --> 01:18:23,652
Speaker 7: Key and Wonnington. I heard this voice calling out Steve. Steve,

1626
01:18:24,173 --> 01:18:26,093
Speaker 7: and I looked around and sure enough it was here,

1627
01:18:26,133 --> 01:18:28,892
Speaker 7: and so we sort of had a chat to catch up,

1628
01:18:28,893 --> 01:18:32,293
Speaker 7: and then just started seeing more of each other. And yeah,

1629
01:18:32,412 --> 01:18:34,452
Speaker 7: it just became a regular thing.

1630
01:18:34,652 --> 01:18:37,892
Speaker 2: See that's the thing about hatchhiking and the golden age

1631
01:18:37,893 --> 01:18:40,892
Speaker 2: of it. It was, you know, you opened yourself up

1632
01:18:40,893 --> 01:18:44,972
Speaker 2: to opportunities and meeting new people and adventures and such.

1633
01:18:45,213 --> 01:18:47,412
Speaker 2: In your case, twenty five years married and three.

1634
01:18:47,372 --> 01:18:50,772
Speaker 7: Kids exactly exactly. And I had been on the other side.

1635
01:18:50,812 --> 01:18:53,492
Speaker 7: I've done a bit of hitchhiking, not a lot, because

1636
01:18:53,492 --> 01:18:55,692
Speaker 7: I always I had a car basically as soon as

1637
01:18:55,732 --> 01:18:57,372
Speaker 7: I could drive, I got a car, so I was

1638
01:18:57,532 --> 01:19:01,652
Speaker 7: usually mobile. But one particular time I was away with

1639
01:19:01,692 --> 01:19:03,812
Speaker 7: a mate of mine on holiday and it sat a

1640
01:19:03,812 --> 01:19:06,973
Speaker 7: couple of mates and up and rode a tapo and

1641
01:19:07,053 --> 01:19:11,053
Speaker 7: on the way back my car up at Mochoapa, just

1642
01:19:11,133 --> 01:19:14,652
Speaker 7: between Talpo and Touring place you'd never remember unless she

1643
01:19:14,692 --> 01:19:16,852
Speaker 7: had a reason to, and that was my reason. The

1644
01:19:16,933 --> 01:19:20,452
Speaker 7: car broke down there, so we're hitchhiked. Actually got picked

1645
01:19:20,492 --> 01:19:22,772
Speaker 7: up by you. Probably wouldn't know the guy but young,

1646
01:19:22,853 --> 01:19:26,532
Speaker 7: but his name was you and Scarrow and he was

1647
01:19:26,572 --> 01:19:31,213
Speaker 7: a really well known New Zealand gardening personality at the

1648
01:19:31,293 --> 01:19:33,692
Speaker 7: time up there, like with Maggie Barry and that sort

1649
01:19:33,732 --> 01:19:36,253
Speaker 7: of again Kargie. He was such an interesting guy to

1650
01:19:36,333 --> 01:19:38,732
Speaker 7: talk to. He brought us all the way back from

1651
01:19:38,732 --> 01:19:42,092
Speaker 7: from Touring e or Taupo, right the way to Wellington,

1652
01:19:42,173 --> 01:19:44,133
Speaker 7: and boy, we had a good old natur on the way.

1653
01:19:44,213 --> 01:19:46,532
Speaker 7: So you just never know who you're going to encounter.

1654
01:19:46,652 --> 01:19:51,612
Speaker 2: You know, did you once your marriage from the first

1655
01:19:51,652 --> 01:19:53,532
Speaker 2: that Shoker ended? Did you hit out in the roads

1656
01:19:53,532 --> 01:19:55,013
Speaker 2: to try and find another wife.

1657
01:19:56,093 --> 01:19:58,293
Speaker 7: It's a bit dangerous now I'm trying to think of

1658
01:19:58,333 --> 01:20:00,492
Speaker 7: the last time I actually picked up a hit it

1659
01:20:00,532 --> 01:20:03,572
Speaker 7: would be it'd be many, many years. And I think,

1660
01:20:03,893 --> 01:20:05,772
Speaker 7: if I remember, it may have been someone carrying a

1661
01:20:05,853 --> 01:20:08,253
Speaker 7: jerry can. I thought, oh, you're a friend in need

1662
01:20:08,452 --> 01:20:11,973
Speaker 7: to a friend indeed, so I probably would now be

1663
01:20:12,333 --> 01:20:16,013
Speaker 7: much more hesitant about picking people up just because of

1664
01:20:16,253 --> 01:20:18,852
Speaker 7: things that have happened. And it's unfortunate because it's a

1665
01:20:18,893 --> 01:20:21,052
Speaker 7: great thing to actually do. It's so much fun.

1666
01:20:21,412 --> 01:20:24,132
Speaker 3: Yeah, Zeland, look how it ended up for you, Steven,

1667
01:20:24,333 --> 01:20:26,772
Speaker 3: exactly what a great story. Oh eight, one hundred eighty

1668
01:20:26,812 --> 01:20:28,973
Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number to call love to hear

1669
01:20:29,013 --> 01:20:31,773
Speaker 3: your hitchhiking stories, or if you still pick up hitchhikers.

1670
01:20:31,812 --> 01:20:35,253
Speaker 2: In New Zealand, guys loved hitchings. His Graham picked up

1671
01:20:35,253 --> 01:20:37,333
Speaker 2: a yank and his girlfriend going to care to kitty,

1672
01:20:37,452 --> 01:20:39,852
Speaker 2: so had to joint with them going over the Harbor Bridge.

1673
01:20:39,973 --> 01:20:42,133
Speaker 2: They got so wasted I had to babysit them for

1674
01:20:42,133 --> 01:20:44,012
Speaker 2: the rest of the day in my home in Albany

1675
01:20:44,253 --> 01:20:47,133
Speaker 2: and took them north the next day. Still keep in touch.

1676
01:20:47,612 --> 01:20:51,212
Speaker 2: That was in nineteen seventy eight. Good times, Good times.

1677
01:20:51,372 --> 01:20:56,452
Speaker 2: What were some of these hit shuking stories evolve drug taking?

1678
01:20:56,612 --> 01:20:56,972
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1679
01:20:57,173 --> 01:20:59,972
Speaker 3: Min hit shriking story does involve drug taking it? Oh okay,

1680
01:20:59,973 --> 01:21:02,372
Speaker 3: why one does? All right, that might maybe coming up.

1681
01:21:02,572 --> 01:21:04,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you have had it.

1682
01:21:04,293 --> 01:21:05,053
Speaker 3: I'll just think about it.

1683
01:21:05,053 --> 01:21:06,293
Speaker 2: I'll just check with legal.

1684
01:21:06,372 --> 01:21:08,293
Speaker 3: Okay, right, that is covered up soon. It is a

1685
01:21:08,333 --> 01:21:11,932
Speaker 3: eleven past three US talks'd be fourteen past three. Were

1686
01:21:11,933 --> 01:21:12,973
Speaker 3: talking about hitchhiking.

1687
01:21:13,372 --> 01:21:16,733
Speaker 2: Marian, welcome to the show. You've had an interesting hitchhiking experience.

1688
01:21:17,612 --> 01:21:21,213
Speaker 18: Yes, yes, yes, all my parents did, but I think

1689
01:21:21,253 --> 01:21:25,612
Speaker 18: that I probably was one of the youngest hitchhikers prior

1690
01:21:25,652 --> 01:21:29,852
Speaker 18: to my parents' episode. My father was born and raised

1691
01:21:30,652 --> 01:21:35,452
Speaker 18: on Banks Peninsula and ended up building us a three

1692
01:21:35,452 --> 01:21:38,013
Speaker 18: bedroom house with a carriage underneath that it's blas called

1693
01:21:38,053 --> 01:21:42,052
Speaker 18: kik al Bay, and we as kids in the bay

1694
01:21:42,412 --> 01:21:45,133
Speaker 18: used to get together and decide that we were a

1695
01:21:45,213 --> 01:21:49,252
Speaker 18: hitchhike around to Wainui and for a picnic, lunch and things,

1696
01:21:49,372 --> 01:21:52,692
Speaker 18: and or around to Akaroa. So we'd grown in groups

1697
01:21:52,732 --> 01:21:56,092
Speaker 18: of three, and I used to like to be the

1698
01:21:56,213 --> 01:22:01,572
Speaker 18: last group because if you were the last group, you

1699
01:22:01,732 --> 01:22:05,213
Speaker 18: used to get picked up first if you were going

1700
01:22:05,253 --> 01:22:07,852
Speaker 18: to Wainui. But you'd like to be the first first

1701
01:22:07,853 --> 01:22:12,732
Speaker 18: group girl if you were heading to Acadawa and I

1702
01:22:12,772 --> 01:22:16,613
Speaker 18: would probably we would go in groups three as kids.

1703
01:22:17,053 --> 01:22:20,852
Speaker 18: So kids that were eight, nine and ten years of age, wow,

1704
01:22:21,093 --> 01:22:26,012
Speaker 18: and inevitably yeah, you know, they knew dad had gone

1705
01:22:26,053 --> 01:22:29,372
Speaker 18: to school with dad at Yi or you know, he

1706
01:22:29,492 --> 01:22:32,293
Speaker 18: was a Peninsula boy and he was a right and

1707
01:22:32,652 --> 01:22:39,613
Speaker 18: they bunnies over there. And but my father used to

1708
01:22:39,612 --> 01:22:44,933
Speaker 18: pick up hatchhikers. And when my father retired, he and

1709
01:22:45,013 --> 01:22:47,333
Speaker 18: my mother decided to go up to the North Island

1710
01:22:47,452 --> 01:22:52,812
Speaker 18: to visit his two brothers. And they visited one brother

1711
01:22:53,013 --> 01:22:56,093
Speaker 18: and we're making their way down to the other and

1712
01:22:57,093 --> 01:23:01,133
Speaker 18: we're traveling along and saw this young lad and they

1713
01:23:01,173 --> 01:23:04,772
Speaker 18: picked him up. And further along the road there was

1714
01:23:04,812 --> 01:23:08,812
Speaker 18: a policeman that stopped them and said, lot, you know,

1715
01:23:08,893 --> 01:23:12,213
Speaker 18: they're very short. In those days of Ministry of Transport

1716
01:23:12,372 --> 01:23:17,652
Speaker 18: used to act as people that would check your warranty

1717
01:23:17,652 --> 01:23:22,372
Speaker 18: fitness and your registration and your driver's license. They had

1718
01:23:22,572 --> 01:23:25,293
Speaker 18: black and white cars, and he said, you know, we're

1719
01:23:25,372 --> 01:23:28,133
Speaker 18: very they're very short on the ground here in this area.

1720
01:23:28,213 --> 01:23:31,452
Speaker 18: So they've asked us to cover this area at the moment.

1721
01:23:31,652 --> 01:23:34,892
Speaker 18: So I'm just checking your registration, your warranty fitness, and

1722
01:23:34,933 --> 01:23:38,053
Speaker 18: your driver's license. So Dad said, oh, yes, okay, and

1723
01:23:38,093 --> 01:23:40,053
Speaker 18: he had a you know, look in the car and

1724
01:23:40,812 --> 01:23:43,493
Speaker 18: where you're off to? You know what, what's your destination?

1725
01:23:43,853 --> 01:23:46,253
Speaker 18: And Dad told them, you know, his offices at the

1726
01:23:46,293 --> 01:23:49,452
Speaker 18: brother in such and such place, and he said, well,

1727
01:23:49,532 --> 01:23:51,932
Speaker 18: you know, if you go, have a good day. Anyway,

1728
01:23:51,933 --> 01:23:55,372
Speaker 18: they traveled along a few miles miles in those days,

1729
01:23:55,853 --> 01:23:58,652
Speaker 18: hit it around a bend and there was a massive

1730
01:23:58,692 --> 01:24:03,133
Speaker 18: police cordon. The person that they had picked up was

1731
01:24:03,173 --> 01:24:04,333
Speaker 18: an escape convict.

1732
01:24:04,812 --> 01:24:10,692
Speaker 2: Wow, so the.

1733
01:24:12,772 --> 01:24:16,773
Speaker 18: Cop wasn't actually just pulling into the Ministry of Transport,

1734
01:24:19,053 --> 01:24:22,492
Speaker 18: he was during his due diligence and then radioed ahead

1735
01:24:22,812 --> 01:24:27,892
Speaker 18: and they got them around the bend. Mom and Dad

1736
01:24:27,893 --> 01:24:30,812
Speaker 18: never picked up a hitchhiker after that, they didn't.

1737
01:24:30,973 --> 01:24:32,852
Speaker 3: Was he a nice guy in the interim before they

1738
01:24:32,933 --> 01:24:33,852
Speaker 3: knew he was a criminal?

1739
01:24:33,973 --> 01:24:36,372
Speaker 18: Yeah, they said he was a really nice young Yeah,

1740
01:24:36,492 --> 01:24:38,812
Speaker 18: they liked him. Think that he was a nice young man.

1741
01:24:39,053 --> 01:24:43,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is great.

1742
01:24:43,612 --> 01:24:48,092
Speaker 18: And I moved to Sejig And when I came back,

1743
01:24:48,333 --> 01:24:52,452
Speaker 18: I was living in summer in christ Church and it

1744
01:24:52,492 --> 01:24:54,572
Speaker 18: was a Saturday at about six o'clock and I was

1745
01:24:54,652 --> 01:24:58,772
Speaker 18: driving to my parents in Kashmir, and I had a

1746
01:24:58,812 --> 01:25:01,013
Speaker 18: baby in a baby seat and a little six year

1747
01:25:01,013 --> 01:25:02,852
Speaker 18: old in the front seat. And I saw this kid

1748
01:25:03,213 --> 01:25:05,492
Speaker 18: who was about sixteen years of age at the bus

1749
01:25:05,532 --> 01:25:08,053
Speaker 18: stop hitching and I thought he pulled them bug at

1750
01:25:08,053 --> 01:25:11,372
Speaker 18: the bus to only go once once an hour. And

1751
01:25:11,452 --> 01:25:13,133
Speaker 18: I picked him up and I said where you're going?

1752
01:25:13,173 --> 01:25:15,293
Speaker 18: He said, I'm heading off to town. I said it popping,

1753
01:25:15,333 --> 01:25:18,213
Speaker 18: I'll take you anyway. So I took a man to

1754
01:25:18,213 --> 01:25:25,173
Speaker 18: town and lo and behold. I ended up working with

1755
01:25:25,173 --> 01:25:28,173
Speaker 18: his mother at was Ready in New Zealand and then

1756
01:25:28,213 --> 01:25:31,532
Speaker 18: became the Ready Network now into me. And that was

1757
01:25:31,612 --> 01:25:36,293
Speaker 18: long before Jason when Stanley started work. So I work

1758
01:25:36,372 --> 01:25:39,093
Speaker 18: with Jason. When Jason started working at the z M,

1759
01:25:39,372 --> 01:25:43,253
Speaker 18: Yeah villain and so I ended up working with his mother.

1760
01:25:43,532 --> 01:25:46,572
Speaker 18: And I was talking to this young hit striker. He

1761
01:25:46,652 --> 01:25:48,412
Speaker 18: came in to see his mom and I was talking

1762
01:25:48,412 --> 01:25:50,173
Speaker 18: to him, and the mother came out and said, he

1763
01:25:50,253 --> 01:25:50,812
Speaker 18: do you know her?

1764
01:25:50,853 --> 01:25:51,532
Speaker 7: How do you hear her?

1765
01:25:51,612 --> 01:25:54,572
Speaker 18: And I he said, oh, it's a hit striker from Fiji.

1766
01:25:55,013 --> 01:25:58,293
Speaker 18: I thought when he said a lady from Fiji, she

1767
01:25:58,412 --> 01:26:01,452
Speaker 18: would be you know, and describe what a Fijian would, right,

1768
01:26:01,772 --> 01:26:03,652
Speaker 18: And he said, no, this is the lady that picked

1769
01:26:03,652 --> 01:26:07,412
Speaker 18: me up. But I don't I don't. Now I'm nearly seventy,

1770
01:26:07,612 --> 01:26:10,772
Speaker 18: so I'm I just I don't. I don't pickp my

1771
01:26:10,812 --> 01:26:13,293
Speaker 18: hat shrikers. Now that that was a woozie for Tad.

1772
01:26:14,133 --> 01:26:14,452
Speaker 2: There you go.

1773
01:26:14,532 --> 01:26:17,173
Speaker 3: Well we'll say a loodstano from you, certainly. WHOA Yeah, Mary,

1774
01:26:17,253 --> 01:26:18,973
Speaker 3: thank you very much for your phone call. Oh one

1775
01:26:19,053 --> 01:26:21,572
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number. Loved you hitch

1776
01:26:21,612 --> 01:26:23,612
Speaker 3: hiking stories too, and I do if you want to

1777
01:26:23,652 --> 01:26:29,492
Speaker 3: send a text, it is nineteen past three.

1778
01:26:30,333 --> 01:26:33,732
Speaker 1: Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and

1779
01:26:33,772 --> 01:26:35,933
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

1780
01:26:35,893 --> 01:26:38,773
Speaker 3: Twenty two past three. We've been talking about hitchhiking.

1781
01:26:39,133 --> 01:26:41,772
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, young ones not hitchhiking these days, as most

1782
01:26:41,772 --> 01:26:45,253
Speaker 2: have cars, Gail. Yeah, I think more people have cars

1783
01:26:45,812 --> 01:26:47,732
Speaker 2: because you can get a car really cheap compared to

1784
01:26:47,772 --> 01:26:48,692
Speaker 2: what you used to be able to do in the

1785
01:26:48,732 --> 01:26:51,333
Speaker 2: nineties and early two thousands. Right, very true. Yeah, pick

1786
01:26:51,372 --> 01:26:53,093
Speaker 2: one up for a thousand bucks. Yeah, you can have

1787
01:26:53,133 --> 01:26:55,612
Speaker 2: a rubbish starlet you know. Yeah, a lot of those

1788
01:26:55,612 --> 01:26:58,333
Speaker 2: going around pack pack five of you mates in there. Yeah.

1789
01:26:58,372 --> 01:27:03,892
Speaker 2: So this is my story, okay about hitchhiking. Yep, interesting story. Okay,

1790
01:27:04,053 --> 01:27:06,013
Speaker 2: I believe. Tell me if you think it's interesting or not.

1791
01:27:06,612 --> 01:27:09,572
Speaker 2: But it's back in the nineties, I was hitchhiking to

1792
01:27:10,572 --> 01:27:13,093
Speaker 2: Nelson Way nice to go to a go to a

1793
01:27:13,853 --> 01:27:16,852
Speaker 2: New Year's festival. How good? I think it was cooled.

1794
01:27:16,933 --> 01:27:18,612
Speaker 2: What was it called, I'll try and remember. It was

1795
01:27:18,692 --> 01:27:20,732
Speaker 2: up Takakaway on Taker Hill. Yeah.

1796
01:27:20,812 --> 01:27:22,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were great festivals over a few years.

1797
01:27:22,692 --> 01:27:25,572
Speaker 2: Yeah. So anyways, I was hitching up and ended up

1798
01:27:25,612 --> 01:27:30,133
Speaker 2: just outside of Timaru and Washdyke yep. And anyone that's

1799
01:27:30,173 --> 01:27:32,732
Speaker 2: hitched up from Dunedin to christ Church will know that

1800
01:27:32,973 --> 01:27:36,612
Speaker 2: Timaru is a big problem because it's long and it's narrow,

1801
01:27:37,133 --> 01:27:39,173
Speaker 2: and you know, if you get if you get dropped off,

1802
01:27:39,213 --> 01:27:40,892
Speaker 2: you often get dropped off at the start of Timaru,

1803
01:27:40,973 --> 01:27:42,372
Speaker 2: which had happened to me. So I did to make

1804
01:27:42,372 --> 01:27:43,652
Speaker 2: my way through Tomorrow and I was going to pick

1805
01:27:43,732 --> 01:27:46,053
Speaker 2: up in town yep. So I made my way through

1806
01:27:46,093 --> 01:27:48,772
Speaker 2: Timorrow and ended up and washed Ike. Interesting wrote the

1807
01:27:48,812 --> 01:27:51,532
Speaker 2: song Today Tomorrow to Maru, the hit song Today Tomorrow

1808
01:27:51,612 --> 01:27:54,692
Speaker 2: to Moru in this very place and spow on the

1809
01:27:54,692 --> 01:27:56,293
Speaker 2: side of the road. This was that was on a

1810
01:27:56,293 --> 01:27:59,372
Speaker 2: different hitching trip with my mate Chris. But anyway, and

1811
01:27:59,612 --> 01:28:02,452
Speaker 2: washed ike. This car is coming towards me, and I've

1812
01:28:02,492 --> 01:28:05,692
Speaker 2: been waiting for freaking ages. I think it was by

1813
01:28:05,732 --> 01:28:09,173
Speaker 2: the washed Dike tavern, which isn't there anymore. I've waiting

1814
01:28:09,173 --> 01:28:11,412
Speaker 2: there for ages and ages and ages and ages and

1815
01:28:11,452 --> 01:28:14,133
Speaker 2: age of days and getting no luck at all, like

1816
01:28:14,253 --> 01:28:18,173
Speaker 2: horrible sniffly kid. No one wanted to pick up. And

1817
01:28:18,213 --> 01:28:20,532
Speaker 2: then and then I see this car coming and it

1818
01:28:20,612 --> 01:28:24,333
Speaker 2: was a big muscle car, big old car. And I

1819
01:28:24,333 --> 01:28:26,412
Speaker 2: looked at it and it was painted Matt black, and

1820
01:28:26,452 --> 01:28:29,333
Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, this looks like a terrifying car.

1821
01:28:29,772 --> 01:28:31,572
Speaker 2: So I kind of went to put my hand down,

1822
01:28:31,652 --> 01:28:33,333
Speaker 2: but then I thought, hanging on, if I put my

1823
01:28:33,372 --> 01:28:35,492
Speaker 2: hand down, that's like saying screw you to these guys.

1824
01:28:36,253 --> 01:28:39,013
Speaker 2: So I left it up. And they pulled over and

1825
01:28:39,053 --> 01:28:43,852
Speaker 2: there was the big dudes, right, seriously, big dudes and

1826
01:28:44,173 --> 01:28:44,812
Speaker 2: gang members.

1827
01:28:44,893 --> 01:28:46,293
Speaker 3: Oh no, And so.

1828
01:28:47,093 --> 01:28:50,612
Speaker 2: Little me gets in the back seat but terrified, and

1829
01:28:50,652 --> 01:28:53,933
Speaker 2: they say where you're going? And I'm going. I say Christchurch,

1830
01:28:53,973 --> 01:28:56,492
Speaker 2: even though I was going further, and they go, oh,

1831
01:28:56,532 --> 01:28:58,612
Speaker 2: you will take you, don't, don't worry, no worry, mate,

1832
01:28:58,652 --> 01:29:00,253
Speaker 2: don't we'll take it, will take you. And then we

1833
01:29:00,333 --> 01:29:02,133
Speaker 2: drive not very far down the road and then they

1834
01:29:02,173 --> 01:29:06,173
Speaker 2: pull into this gang headquarters behind like the corrugated iron

1835
01:29:06,372 --> 01:29:09,892
Speaker 2: oh man, and I'm going on, I'll just get out

1836
01:29:09,893 --> 01:29:11,293
Speaker 2: and go No, nah, come in for a drink.

1837
01:29:11,333 --> 01:29:15,013
Speaker 3: And I was like, uh, I'll probably be all right.

1838
01:29:15,053 --> 01:29:16,652
Speaker 3: They got to come in for a drink. Four big

1839
01:29:16,732 --> 01:29:18,092
Speaker 3: dudes stand going for a drink.

1840
01:29:18,412 --> 01:29:22,893
Speaker 2: Three at that point went into the into the headquarters

1841
01:29:23,213 --> 01:29:24,612
Speaker 2: and it was kind of a nice It was kind

1842
01:29:24,652 --> 01:29:26,892
Speaker 2: of actually pretty. It was sort of like a bar.

1843
01:29:27,412 --> 01:29:29,652
Speaker 2: It was a bar type situation. What nicely set up

1844
01:29:29,812 --> 01:29:32,812
Speaker 2: pol table, yeah, pool table, some darts and there you know,

1845
01:29:32,973 --> 01:29:35,652
Speaker 2: swasticker on the wall. It was it was sort of

1846
01:29:35,853 --> 01:29:39,612
Speaker 2: apart from that, it was comfany. Yeah. And then one

1847
01:29:39,612 --> 01:29:41,213
Speaker 2: of them goes, do you want a drink? And I

1848
01:29:41,253 --> 01:29:43,173
Speaker 2: said I probably should go, and he goes have a

1849
01:29:43,213 --> 01:29:48,492
Speaker 2: drink and so I had had the drink, drank a

1850
01:29:48,492 --> 01:29:52,372
Speaker 2: big massive stein of beer, and then it was like

1851
01:29:52,452 --> 01:29:55,852
Speaker 2: have another one, have another one, and then I was

1852
01:29:56,013 --> 01:29:59,973
Speaker 2: absolutely freaking steamed. And then they're like, okay, let's go.

1853
01:30:00,772 --> 01:30:04,213
Speaker 2: Well what like everyone's massively steamed, let's go. And I

1854
01:30:04,253 --> 01:30:07,452
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know. They get in the car

1855
01:30:07,652 --> 01:30:09,892
Speaker 2: and so again in the car hit the road by

1856
01:30:09,973 --> 01:30:13,173
Speaker 2: Now they're very friendly they go, but you know, I'm

1857
01:30:13,173 --> 01:30:15,293
Speaker 2: a naive little guy from Duned, and so I'm kind

1858
01:30:15,293 --> 01:30:18,213
Speaker 2: of scared. Then we get in the car and one

1859
01:30:18,213 --> 01:30:21,012
Speaker 2: of them goes, smoke this, and I'm like, oh, it's

1860
01:30:21,053 --> 01:30:23,972
Speaker 2: still going on, and I smoke this. So I smoke

1861
01:30:24,133 --> 01:30:26,732
Speaker 2: what he hands me. And then we're in the car

1862
01:30:26,853 --> 01:30:29,213
Speaker 2: driving and now it's dark and we're driving down the

1863
01:30:29,213 --> 01:30:34,133
Speaker 2: motorway and I start massively hallucinating, and I start I

1864
01:30:34,173 --> 01:30:37,133
Speaker 2: hallucinate that the car is full of like monsters. So

1865
01:30:37,173 --> 01:30:39,532
Speaker 2: I'm sitting in the middle with my arms together and

1866
01:30:39,572 --> 01:30:42,572
Speaker 2: there's giant monsters either side of me, and I'm going like,

1867
01:30:42,652 --> 01:30:44,972
Speaker 2: I just need to be very quiet here because these monsters.

1868
01:30:45,013 --> 01:30:46,732
Speaker 2: And I'm sure really what kind of monsters they were,

1869
01:30:46,772 --> 01:30:48,173
Speaker 2: but I'll have to be quiet because I don't want

1870
01:30:48,173 --> 01:30:52,573
Speaker 2: to annoy these monsters. I'm freaking out as she absolutely

1871
01:30:52,612 --> 01:30:54,732
Speaker 2: freaking out, And then I realized we've gone right through

1872
01:30:54,812 --> 01:30:58,053
Speaker 2: christ Church and out the other side. Eventually time was

1873
01:30:58,093 --> 01:31:00,892
Speaker 2: going in a very very strange way. And then we're

1874
01:31:00,973 --> 01:31:03,692
Speaker 2: driving and driving and driving, and then one and eventually

1875
01:31:03,692 --> 01:31:06,093
Speaker 2: I have this sort of moment of clarity, and there's

1876
01:31:06,133 --> 01:31:08,972
Speaker 2: no monsters in the car. In fact, there's only one

1877
01:31:09,013 --> 01:31:10,772
Speaker 2: guy driving and me in the back seat.

1878
01:31:10,933 --> 01:31:12,532
Speaker 3: So the other two jumped out at some point.

1879
01:31:12,532 --> 01:31:14,052
Speaker 2: I don't know when. I don't know what. I haven't

1880
01:31:14,412 --> 01:31:17,213
Speaker 2: they were there at all, And then and then ended

1881
01:31:17,253 --> 01:31:21,652
Speaker 2: up going oh my god, and really really confused. And

1882
01:31:21,652 --> 01:31:26,892
Speaker 2: then I say, oh, hey, man, I was just where

1883
01:31:26,933 --> 01:31:28,253
Speaker 2: are we? And he goes, what do you get in

1884
01:31:28,333 --> 01:31:31,012
Speaker 2: the front seat, and then getting the front seat with him,

1885
01:31:31,093 --> 01:31:33,532
Speaker 2: and then this dude drove me all the wayd to Nelson.

1886
01:31:36,013 --> 01:31:38,333
Speaker 3: That is Harry when you said that was hery, that

1887
01:31:38,492 --> 01:31:39,612
Speaker 3: is a terrifying experience.

1888
01:31:39,732 --> 01:31:40,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was got terrified.

1889
01:31:40,692 --> 01:31:42,532
Speaker 3: Whill they try to talk to you during this this

1890
01:31:42,532 --> 01:31:45,253
Speaker 3: this you know, you were buzzed out, you were seeing monsters.

1891
01:31:45,293 --> 01:31:46,652
Speaker 3: Do you know if there was check going on?

1892
01:31:46,692 --> 01:31:46,933
Speaker 12: Were you?

1893
01:31:47,253 --> 01:31:51,652
Speaker 2: I know, I wasn't saying anything, but yeah, I ended

1894
01:31:51,692 --> 01:31:53,452
Speaker 2: up in the front seat. We're driving at about one

1895
01:31:53,492 --> 01:31:56,012
Speaker 2: hundred and as fast as you possibly could go. Yeah,

1896
01:31:56,333 --> 01:31:59,293
Speaker 2: no seat belts, going around the corners, sliding and when

1897
01:31:59,293 --> 01:32:00,492
Speaker 2: I was in the front seat on the on the

1898
01:32:00,492 --> 01:32:03,213
Speaker 2: bucket seat, after everything was getting a bit better, I

1899
01:32:03,253 --> 01:32:06,013
Speaker 2: was still sliding over towards him and hold on it

1900
01:32:06,093 --> 01:32:08,093
Speaker 2: and bang into them on the other side, but then

1901
01:32:08,372 --> 01:32:09,772
Speaker 2: drop me off when I went and had a fantastic

1902
01:32:09,812 --> 01:32:11,892
Speaker 2: time at the festival.

1903
01:32:12,173 --> 01:32:14,812
Speaker 3: You had to say terrifying, But they were very generous

1904
01:32:14,853 --> 01:32:16,772
Speaker 3: people by the sounds of it. They look at you up,

1905
01:32:17,053 --> 01:32:19,293
Speaker 3: they gave you some of the gunga and whatever else

1906
01:32:19,372 --> 01:32:20,293
Speaker 3: was in that bloody joint.

1907
01:32:20,333 --> 01:32:22,253
Speaker 2: There's a potential they had no idea what I was

1908
01:32:22,253 --> 01:32:24,852
Speaker 2: going through. They probably I have no idea that I

1909
01:32:24,853 --> 01:32:26,412
Speaker 2: was terrified. They're like, oh, we picked this guy up.

1910
01:32:26,492 --> 01:32:28,933
Speaker 2: You're t tooking for some beers. Gave him something to smoke.

1911
01:32:28,732 --> 01:32:30,852
Speaker 3: Yep, just trying to look after this young fella, give

1912
01:32:30,933 --> 01:32:31,852
Speaker 3: him a time of his life.

1913
01:32:31,933 --> 01:32:35,173
Speaker 2: He was very quiet. Dropped him off from Nelson. Oh

1914
01:32:35,253 --> 01:32:36,412
Speaker 2: that is a great story mate.

1915
01:32:36,412 --> 01:32:38,293
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that

1916
01:32:38,372 --> 01:32:38,932
Speaker 3: number to call?

1917
01:32:39,213 --> 01:32:40,772
Speaker 2: It is twenty eight past three.

1918
01:32:42,253 --> 01:32:44,572
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1919
01:32:44,692 --> 01:32:48,372
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1921
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1922
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1923
01:33:01,652 --> 01:33:05,172
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1924
01:33:05,452 --> 01:33:08,252
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1925
01:33:08,812 --> 01:33:13,293
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1926
01:33:13,612 --> 01:33:17,732
Speaker 20: is appointing retired High Court Judge Paul Davison KC to

1927
01:33:17,812 --> 01:33:21,452
Speaker 20: lead its review into last month's fatal landslide at Mount

1928
01:33:21,492 --> 01:33:25,452
Speaker 20: Manganui Holiday Park. A christ church man's due in court

1929
01:33:25,772 --> 01:33:28,852
Speaker 20: accused of dragging drivers from their cars and a string

1930
01:33:28,893 --> 01:33:33,532
Speaker 20: of attempted vehicle thefts. The Maritime Unions raising a warning

1931
01:33:33,612 --> 01:33:36,932
Speaker 20: flag over the well being of crew stuck on a

1932
01:33:36,933 --> 01:33:39,892
Speaker 20: former inter island a ferry for more than fifty days

1933
01:33:40,253 --> 01:33:43,892
Speaker 20: anchored and Tasman Bay by waiting for permission to sail

1934
01:33:43,973 --> 01:33:47,612
Speaker 20: out to Teddy to India for dismantling. A new one

1935
01:33:47,732 --> 01:33:50,092
Speaker 20: hundred and ten k in our limit comes into force

1936
01:33:50,133 --> 01:33:54,772
Speaker 20: for Wellington's transmission Gully from Monday. She bought a farm

1937
01:33:54,853 --> 01:33:58,333
Speaker 20: for her twelve dogs to run around. Now she's inviting

1938
01:33:58,372 --> 01:34:01,573
Speaker 20: other pootures. You can see the story at endzed Herald Premium,

1939
01:34:01,732 --> 01:34:03,733
Speaker 20: mack Nata, Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

1940
01:34:03,732 --> 01:34:06,293
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Railey we are talking about headsharking stories.

1941
01:34:06,293 --> 01:34:07,852
Speaker 3: We've got to say, Matte, there's quite a few techs

1942
01:34:07,853 --> 01:34:11,532
Speaker 3: coming through after your crazy hairy story about the gang members,

1943
01:34:12,053 --> 01:34:14,532
Speaker 3: this one great story. I just had to pull over

1944
01:34:14,652 --> 01:34:16,812
Speaker 3: and text Low you don't mess with the gang members.

1945
01:34:17,492 --> 01:34:19,412
Speaker 3: Gunja happens, and I love this one.

1946
01:34:19,692 --> 01:34:22,772
Speaker 2: You drink what I give you. It was that kind

1947
01:34:22,772 --> 01:34:25,012
Speaker 2: of situation, but now now I'm thinking about it from

1948
01:34:25,013 --> 01:34:27,532
Speaker 2: my perspective as a you know, a small naive guy

1949
01:34:27,572 --> 01:34:32,333
Speaker 2: from Dunedin traveling up the country. They probably just they

1950
01:34:32,333 --> 01:34:33,613
Speaker 2: were just offering hospitality.

1951
01:34:33,652 --> 01:34:35,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were just looking after you all the so

1952
01:34:35,492 --> 01:34:36,253
Speaker 3: this boy out.

1953
01:34:36,133 --> 01:34:38,572
Speaker 2: All the fear was in my head and also you

1954
01:34:38,572 --> 01:34:42,372
Speaker 2: know whatever that was in the in that strange cigarette

1955
01:34:42,372 --> 01:34:43,053
Speaker 2: they gave me to smoke.

1956
01:34:43,133 --> 01:34:45,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, that doesn't help when you've see monsters. Oh one

1957
01:34:45,372 --> 01:34:47,133
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1958
01:34:47,173 --> 01:34:47,812
Speaker 3: Get a val.

1959
01:34:49,213 --> 01:34:49,412
Speaker 7: Hi.

1960
01:34:50,612 --> 01:34:52,492
Speaker 26: I just rang to say we had a great time

1961
01:34:52,532 --> 01:34:58,132
Speaker 26: taking up people. We lived in Chiana and my houseland

1962
01:34:58,133 --> 01:35:02,933
Speaker 26: was a fisherman on Melford and I would well, we

1963
01:35:02,973 --> 01:35:05,932
Speaker 26: would both pick them up and sometimes I've take them

1964
01:35:05,933 --> 01:35:08,093
Speaker 26: home and show them our deer farm and then take

1965
01:35:08,133 --> 01:35:10,572
Speaker 26: them you know, they would go into Milford, or we'd

1966
01:35:10,612 --> 01:35:12,012
Speaker 26: dropped them on the road so they were a bit

1967
01:35:12,053 --> 01:35:14,892
Speaker 26: closer to going there, and my husband had take them

1968
01:35:14,893 --> 01:35:17,852
Speaker 26: out fishing. They'd come back Stavins and on the farm.

1969
01:35:18,333 --> 01:35:20,412
Speaker 26: They'd have a great time, and we had a great

1970
01:35:20,452 --> 01:35:23,253
Speaker 26: time too, because we got to hear what parts of

1971
01:35:23,253 --> 01:35:26,053
Speaker 26: the world they lived in, and you know, just what

1972
01:35:26,333 --> 01:35:29,892
Speaker 26: foreigners were like. Plus everybody in Tiana. So they were

1973
01:35:29,933 --> 01:35:33,532
Speaker 26: going to Milford Found and they had room for a

1974
01:35:33,572 --> 01:35:37,173
Speaker 26: person or two or in room for their care. They

1975
01:35:37,173 --> 01:35:38,852
Speaker 26: would just pick them up. It was just the thing

1976
01:35:38,933 --> 01:35:40,812
Speaker 26: you did. You know, you were nice to people, you

1977
01:35:40,853 --> 01:35:45,572
Speaker 26: were more thoughtful, and over the years we had many stories,

1978
01:35:46,652 --> 01:35:49,053
Speaker 26: you know, to tell people about people we'd met from

1979
01:35:49,093 --> 01:35:51,892
Speaker 26: all over the world. And now my two boys, they

1980
01:35:51,973 --> 01:35:54,532
Speaker 26: learned a lot from that and they both they both

1981
01:35:55,612 --> 01:35:57,932
Speaker 26: go over seas, where one lives overseas and the other

1982
01:35:57,973 --> 01:35:59,572
Speaker 26: one travels overseas all the time.

1983
01:36:00,812 --> 01:36:03,293
Speaker 2: You got sand flies the size of hitchhikers in tianaw

1984
01:36:03,372 --> 01:36:04,213
Speaker 2: haven't you a val.

1985
01:36:04,893 --> 01:36:06,732
Speaker 26: Do you want to hear a little story about that?

1986
01:36:07,133 --> 01:36:08,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, go for it.

1987
01:36:09,372 --> 01:36:14,053
Speaker 26: Okay, Okay. So there's a big, huge travel center in

1988
01:36:14,173 --> 01:36:16,932
Speaker 26: Milford Sound and one of my friends used to work

1989
01:36:16,973 --> 01:36:19,412
Speaker 26: on it. They're very high counters where people go and

1990
01:36:19,452 --> 01:36:24,452
Speaker 26: get their boat tickets and anyway, up on the wall

1991
01:36:24,532 --> 01:36:28,412
Speaker 26: and there it is a huge, big metal sandfly. And

1992
01:36:28,492 --> 01:36:31,213
Speaker 26: this guy came up to the counter at a very

1993
01:36:31,253 --> 01:36:34,812
Speaker 26: busy time and unbeknown to my friend at the counter,

1994
01:36:35,692 --> 01:36:39,812
Speaker 26: he was actually he was on crutches. Anyway, he stood

1995
01:36:39,812 --> 01:36:41,772
Speaker 26: at the counter patiently and she said, yes, can I

1996
01:36:41,853 --> 01:36:44,452
Speaker 26: help you, sir? And he said, I don't need a ticket,

1997
01:36:44,492 --> 01:36:46,412
Speaker 26: I just want to know if the sand flies are

1998
01:36:46,452 --> 01:36:49,133
Speaker 26: really that big as that one on the wall. And

1999
01:36:49,213 --> 01:36:52,852
Speaker 26: she turned around and said, oh, yes it is. She says,

2000
01:36:52,973 --> 01:36:56,532
Speaker 26: my god, you must be careful. They'll take your leg off. Anyway,

2001
01:36:56,532 --> 01:36:59,093
Speaker 26: she turned around to serve another customer and out of

2002
01:36:59,133 --> 01:37:01,892
Speaker 26: the corner of her eye she saw him getting across

2003
01:37:01,893 --> 01:37:04,093
Speaker 26: on his crutches and he only had one leg.

2004
01:37:05,652 --> 01:37:10,452
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'll take you. I'll take you last weak. Yeah,

2005
01:37:10,452 --> 01:37:12,973
Speaker 2: he was like, I can't afford to leave the other one. Yeah,

2006
01:37:13,013 --> 01:37:15,133
Speaker 2: I'm leaving. Thanks for cool.

2007
01:37:15,213 --> 01:37:17,852
Speaker 3: Well, great story. One hundred and eighty ten eighty is

2008
01:37:17,893 --> 01:37:18,692
Speaker 3: that number to call?

2009
01:37:19,133 --> 01:37:19,452
Speaker 2: Keith?

2010
01:37:20,093 --> 01:37:20,612
Speaker 3: How are you?

2011
01:37:21,812 --> 01:37:22,253
Speaker 7: Yeah? Good?

2012
01:37:22,293 --> 01:37:22,532
Speaker 14: Thanks?

2013
01:37:22,572 --> 01:37:22,732
Speaker 7: Good?

2014
01:37:22,732 --> 01:37:25,492
Speaker 3: How is very good making your story?

2015
01:37:26,333 --> 01:37:26,532
Speaker 12: Yeah?

2016
01:37:26,572 --> 01:37:29,253
Speaker 10: I just got a quick story. I traveled to christ

2017
01:37:29,333 --> 01:37:32,173
Speaker 10: Chitch and Graymouth a lot back and forth, and one

2018
01:37:32,253 --> 01:37:36,812
Speaker 10: day I was traveling back to Graymouth and Kamara Junction actually,

2019
01:37:36,853 --> 01:37:40,372
Speaker 10: and these two young girls were hitchhiking, and I thought, oh,

2020
01:37:40,492 --> 01:37:43,732
Speaker 10: pick them up, pick them up, and so dropped them

2021
01:37:43,772 --> 01:37:46,372
Speaker 10: in the car and said, are we hidden? We're heading

2022
01:37:46,372 --> 01:37:49,133
Speaker 10: to Graymouth. I said, okay, what street? You know? I

2023
01:37:49,452 --> 01:37:53,173
Speaker 10: find out where they're going and I said, are We're

2024
01:37:53,173 --> 01:37:56,333
Speaker 10: going to sixty seven Shakespeare Street. I thought that's bloody

2025
01:37:56,372 --> 01:38:02,492
Speaker 10: interesting because that's where I live. What and yeah, yeah,

2026
01:38:02,612 --> 01:38:05,053
Speaker 10: that's where I live. I didn't know these girls, but

2027
01:38:06,173 --> 01:38:08,492
Speaker 10: and I didn't tell them straight away that they were

2028
01:38:08,532 --> 01:38:12,732
Speaker 10: heading into my house. But so what actually happened? I

2029
01:38:12,772 --> 01:38:16,852
Speaker 10: found out I figured out when I was driving the

2030
01:38:17,133 --> 01:38:19,372
Speaker 10: family home was across the road. And then a little

2031
01:38:19,372 --> 01:38:21,492
Speaker 10: bit noun to me that bolted from the family home

2032
01:38:21,532 --> 01:38:23,573
Speaker 10: and we're trying to find their way back.

2033
01:38:23,772 --> 01:38:28,973
Speaker 2: Right, So I'm just a little bit confused. So and

2034
01:38:29,812 --> 01:38:31,572
Speaker 2: why were they trying to get back to your house?

2035
01:38:33,093 --> 01:38:37,773
Speaker 10: Well, they gave me my address of sixty seven Shakespeare,

2036
01:38:38,133 --> 01:38:40,933
Speaker 10: but they actually lived across the road five.

2037
01:38:41,093 --> 01:38:45,612
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, So it sounds like the sort of

2038
01:38:45,652 --> 01:38:47,772
Speaker 2: a sort of Twilight Zone kind of horror movie thing.

2039
01:38:47,812 --> 01:38:49,372
Speaker 2: You pick up some hit shrikers and they say where

2040
01:38:49,372 --> 01:38:52,572
Speaker 2: they're going, and then they give your house. Yeah, I

2041
01:38:52,652 --> 01:38:55,812
Speaker 2: know that. If that's a horror movie, it's going somewhere weird.

2042
01:38:55,853 --> 01:38:55,973
Speaker 19: Ok.

2043
01:38:57,492 --> 01:38:59,932
Speaker 10: Yeah, Well I thought I thought it was pretty strange,

2044
01:38:59,933 --> 01:39:02,253
Speaker 10: and I thought I won't tell them, and I dropped

2045
01:39:02,293 --> 01:39:06,732
Speaker 10: them across the road, not at my house, but and

2046
01:39:06,772 --> 01:39:10,213
Speaker 10: then I drove into the drive. But I thought, yeah, yeah,

2047
01:39:10,293 --> 01:39:13,133
Speaker 10: so it's pretty unusual to pick a hitchhiker up.

2048
01:39:13,133 --> 01:39:15,333
Speaker 2: Who is going to your head certainly is Yeah, that

2049
01:39:15,492 --> 01:39:18,013
Speaker 2: is very rare. Thanks for your call. Okaythistics says, is

2050
01:39:18,053 --> 01:39:20,932
Speaker 2: that only South Island is that hitch That's a good question.

2051
01:39:21,293 --> 01:39:23,253
Speaker 2: All these stories are from the South Island. And I

2052
01:39:23,253 --> 01:39:26,173
Speaker 2: know definitely around you know, snowboarding circles, and if you're

2053
01:39:26,173 --> 01:39:30,013
Speaker 2: around you know, anywhere there is skiing, there's a lot

2054
01:39:30,053 --> 01:39:31,013
Speaker 2: more hitchhiking going on.

2055
01:39:31,213 --> 01:39:33,012
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot easier to do in those situations.

2056
01:39:33,013 --> 01:39:34,692
Speaker 2: And if you if you're near Arrowtown in the corner

2057
01:39:34,732 --> 01:39:36,973
Speaker 2: of the Crown Range, then you know, people know that

2058
01:39:36,973 --> 01:39:38,372
Speaker 2: you're going up to the mountain, they'll give you a lift.

2059
01:39:38,372 --> 01:39:40,852
Speaker 3: Did you find that because you you know sometimes hitchhiked

2060
01:39:40,853 --> 01:39:42,652
Speaker 3: from Duneda up to Auckland. Did you find it was

2061
01:39:42,692 --> 01:39:45,132
Speaker 3: easier in the South Island apart from the gang members

2062
01:39:45,173 --> 01:39:47,652
Speaker 3: and the terrifying story that you just told? But what

2063
01:39:47,732 --> 01:39:49,492
Speaker 3: did it get harder north of Wellington?

2064
01:39:49,572 --> 01:39:52,452
Speaker 2: I think something happened terrifying happened in Tokuoa that I

2065
01:39:52,452 --> 01:39:56,213
Speaker 2: can't quite remember. Something involved me sleeping holding a pocket

2066
01:39:56,293 --> 01:39:59,052
Speaker 2: knife on my chest. I just have to remember that one. Okay,

2067
01:39:59,213 --> 01:40:00,093
Speaker 2: you've met a life man.

2068
01:40:01,532 --> 01:40:03,452
Speaker 3: Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

2069
01:40:03,492 --> 01:40:06,772
Speaker 3: to call. Get a Catherine Good A guys, how are

2070
01:40:06,812 --> 01:40:07,652
Speaker 3: you very good?

2071
01:40:08,492 --> 01:40:11,012
Speaker 9: Okay, Well, I've got a hitch hiking story, but it's

2072
01:40:11,053 --> 01:40:14,812
Speaker 9: not in New Zealand. In the early eighties, when three

2073
01:40:14,853 --> 01:40:17,812
Speaker 9: of my friends and I went to Europe to do

2074
01:40:17,933 --> 01:40:21,532
Speaker 9: our oe, we were newbuild twenty year olds and we

2075
01:40:21,652 --> 01:40:25,692
Speaker 9: bought a uril pass to travel around Europe, and the

2076
01:40:26,133 --> 01:40:28,652
Speaker 9: trains went on strike and we happened to be in

2077
01:40:28,692 --> 01:40:31,293
Speaker 9: Portugal at the time, so the trains had a strike

2078
01:40:31,372 --> 01:40:34,932
Speaker 9: so we couldn't use our eurl pass, so we decided

2079
01:40:34,933 --> 01:40:37,333
Speaker 9: to hitch hike. So there we were without sticking our

2080
01:40:37,333 --> 01:40:40,972
Speaker 9: thumbs out, with our backpacks on and this guy pulled over.

2081
01:40:41,053 --> 01:40:43,612
Speaker 9: He had an open air ute, you know, with a

2082
01:40:43,652 --> 01:40:44,692
Speaker 9: tray at the back.

2083
01:40:45,133 --> 01:40:46,133
Speaker 12: So we leapt in.

2084
01:40:46,412 --> 01:40:49,333
Speaker 9: And he drove along. We were going to a hostel,

2085
01:40:49,812 --> 01:40:51,852
Speaker 9: and so he was driving along, driving along on the

2086
01:40:51,853 --> 01:40:52,372
Speaker 9: main road.

2087
01:40:52,452 --> 01:40:53,173
Speaker 12: That was all good.

2088
01:40:53,853 --> 01:40:57,492
Speaker 9: Next minute he turns left up this gravel driveway, this

2089
01:40:57,692 --> 01:41:00,532
Speaker 9: really long driveway, and we drove for ages and we

2090
01:41:00,532 --> 01:41:03,692
Speaker 9: were freaking out and looking at each other, thinking, where

2091
01:41:03,732 --> 01:41:07,652
Speaker 9: the hell is he taking us. Anyway, at the end

2092
01:41:07,692 --> 01:41:11,013
Speaker 9: of the day, he took us to his house and

2093
01:41:11,133 --> 01:41:13,852
Speaker 9: all these kids came running out to greet us. They

2094
01:41:13,853 --> 01:41:18,013
Speaker 9: were quite fascinated by these tourists, and he wanted us

2095
01:41:18,053 --> 01:41:21,093
Speaker 9: to taste their local fruit, which is nespre were like

2096
01:41:21,173 --> 01:41:24,253
Speaker 9: a low quot, and so he sent us on our

2097
01:41:24,293 --> 01:41:29,133
Speaker 9: way with a whole bag of low quots, took us

2098
01:41:29,173 --> 01:41:31,732
Speaker 9: back to the main road and took us to the hostel.

2099
01:41:31,853 --> 01:41:35,133
Speaker 9: But you know, for a while there we were really worried.

2100
01:41:35,013 --> 01:41:36,452
Speaker 3: It would have been a hostage situation.

2101
01:41:37,853 --> 01:41:40,572
Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing, Catherine, Matt Your story just reminded

2102
01:41:40,572 --> 01:41:43,892
Speaker 2: me of an unintentional hitchhiking incident. Had taken my moped

2103
01:41:43,893 --> 01:41:46,772
Speaker 2: for a run and it broke down. Was walking at home,

2104
01:41:46,812 --> 01:41:49,252
Speaker 2: which was about five kilimnars way, when a small hatchback

2105
01:41:49,293 --> 01:41:52,532
Speaker 2: pulled up beside me. There were four large gang gentlemen

2106
01:41:52,532 --> 01:41:54,333
Speaker 2: in it. They asked if I wanted a lyft, which

2107
01:41:54,372 --> 01:41:56,772
Speaker 2: I declined. They didn't take no for an answer, and

2108
01:41:56,812 --> 01:41:58,732
Speaker 2: before I knew it, the moped was bundled into the

2109
01:41:58,732 --> 01:42:00,732
Speaker 2: boot and I was encouraged into the back seat between

2110
01:42:00,772 --> 01:42:02,932
Speaker 2: two of them, and off we went. Offered me a

2111
01:42:02,973 --> 01:42:05,452
Speaker 2: share of the McDonald's, but I had dinner waiting at home.

2112
01:42:05,492 --> 01:42:07,412
Speaker 2: Ten minutes later, I was back in my driveway waving

2113
01:42:07,452 --> 01:42:10,133
Speaker 2: goodbye to the Kenyan gentleen laugh about it now, but

2114
01:42:10,173 --> 01:42:12,253
Speaker 2: I was sweating the whole way home. You see. That's

2115
01:42:12,333 --> 01:42:13,532
Speaker 2: just just judgment, isn't it.

2116
01:42:13,572 --> 01:42:14,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, misconceptions.

2117
01:42:14,692 --> 01:42:16,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know these people were that, they were just

2118
01:42:16,732 --> 01:42:18,452
Speaker 2: they were just looking to help you out, yeap, just

2119
01:42:18,492 --> 01:42:20,612
Speaker 2: being good buggers. Yep, they're taking no for an answer.

2120
01:42:20,732 --> 01:42:23,133
Speaker 2: Wasn't a kidnapping thing. It was like no, no, no, no, no, we.

2121
01:42:23,093 --> 01:42:25,253
Speaker 3: Insist, Yeah, we insist. We're going to help you out.

2122
01:42:25,253 --> 01:42:27,213
Speaker 3: We're going to make you drink some booze and give

2123
01:42:27,213 --> 01:42:29,412
Speaker 3: you some of our goods, whether it's McDonald's or other.

2124
01:42:30,013 --> 01:42:32,253
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number of cool.

2125
01:42:32,293 --> 01:42:34,333
Speaker 3: Nineteen nine two is the text. It is twenty to four.

2126
01:42:35,412 --> 01:42:39,052
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon Talk Matt Heath and Tyner Adams

2127
01:42:39,093 --> 01:42:42,892
Speaker 1: Afternoons with Skoda. Can you crack the Scoda code News

2128
01:42:42,973 --> 01:42:43,813
Speaker 1: Talk sai'd.

2129
01:42:43,572 --> 01:42:46,892
Speaker 3: Be seventeen two four. We're talking about hit Shi King.

2130
01:42:47,093 --> 01:42:49,892
Speaker 2: This is a good text from Paul around my story

2131
01:42:49,893 --> 01:42:53,253
Speaker 2: about being picked out. But some gang members taken back

2132
01:42:53,293 --> 01:42:58,293
Speaker 2: to their headquarters de corrugated iron fencing. They got me drunk,

2133
01:42:59,293 --> 01:43:02,812
Speaker 2: got me hallucinating, give me in the car. The six says,

2134
01:43:03,093 --> 01:43:05,652
Speaker 2: they're probably laughing, picked up this young fella who wanted

2135
01:43:05,652 --> 01:43:07,333
Speaker 2: to go to christ Church, got them stoned and dropped

2136
01:43:07,372 --> 01:43:11,133
Speaker 2: them off in Nelson. Yeah, very true. It probably was

2137
01:43:11,133 --> 01:43:12,692
Speaker 2: a certain element of practical joke.

2138
01:43:13,053 --> 01:43:16,012
Speaker 3: But entertainment for that. Yeah, Bronnie, how are you?

2139
01:43:16,853 --> 01:43:20,012
Speaker 27: Oh? Yeah, hi guys, Yeah, thanks for taking my call.

2140
01:43:20,853 --> 01:43:22,453
Speaker 27: I'm but never never spoken.

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Speaker 6: On the radio before.

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01:43:23,013 --> 01:43:24,852
Speaker 2: But so much for ringing Bronnie.

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01:43:25,173 --> 01:43:27,732
Speaker 27: Oh, I just have a pretty cool story. It was

2144
01:43:27,772 --> 01:43:29,372
Speaker 27: actually my brother in law. Even tho I've done it

2145
01:43:29,412 --> 01:43:31,652
Speaker 27: a hitch shiking myself over the years when I was younger,

2146
01:43:31,652 --> 01:43:34,533
Speaker 27: but my brother in all this time He was hitchhiking

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01:43:34,612 --> 01:43:39,213
Speaker 27: from Fokatarney to Tarana and he got picked up by

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01:43:39,372 --> 01:43:41,612
Speaker 27: three guys and they said, oh, do you want to fly?

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01:43:41,973 --> 01:43:43,572
Speaker 27: And he thought, oh, this is going to be a

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01:43:43,572 --> 01:43:46,213
Speaker 27: fast trip. So they put a stick belt on and thought,

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01:43:46,213 --> 01:43:49,093
Speaker 27: oh yeah, okay, we're flying. Yeah, and they turned off

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01:43:49,213 --> 01:43:52,093
Speaker 27: into Fokatani Airport and jumped in a plane. One of

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01:43:52,133 --> 01:43:55,612
Speaker 27: them was a pilot and they were flying to song Array,

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01:43:55,692 --> 01:43:57,213
Speaker 27: but he only wanted to go to tarran on so

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01:43:57,253 --> 01:43:59,452
Speaker 27: they just stopped off at Taran and put him out

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01:43:59,772 --> 01:44:00,652
Speaker 27: and took off again.

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01:44:01,253 --> 01:44:02,892
Speaker 2: What a cool story, that's amazing.

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01:44:02,973 --> 01:44:03,213
Speaker 22: Yeah.

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01:44:03,293 --> 01:44:05,613
Speaker 27: I thought it was pretty cool and thought, yeah, i'ring

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01:44:05,692 --> 01:44:06,452
Speaker 27: and tell you that one.

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01:44:06,652 --> 01:44:08,173
Speaker 3: It's a jackpot for her, isn't it.

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01:44:08,612 --> 01:44:12,012
Speaker 27: So he got there a bit faster than driving, so you'd.

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01:44:11,812 --> 01:44:12,973
Speaker 2: Be a bit worried when they say do you want

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01:44:12,973 --> 01:44:15,133
Speaker 2: to fly? Do you want to fly?

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01:44:15,253 --> 01:44:18,572
Speaker 20: Boy a fast trip.

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01:44:18,372 --> 01:44:22,212
Speaker 27: In the car, embracing himself for it, but not expecting

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01:44:22,253 --> 01:44:23,293
Speaker 27: to go to the airport.

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01:44:23,492 --> 01:44:25,133
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much for bringing up and sharing

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01:44:25,133 --> 01:44:27,253
Speaker 2: that with us, Bronnie. I think I've always went that

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01:44:27,372 --> 01:44:30,133
Speaker 2: amazing with people that you know flying small aircraft in

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01:44:30,133 --> 01:44:32,372
Speaker 2: New Zealand. How much freedom have you got? Yeah, because

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01:44:32,412 --> 01:44:34,013
Speaker 2: you know, you get used to if you if you

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01:44:34,093 --> 01:44:36,492
Speaker 2: just fly commercially, you get used to just you get

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01:44:36,492 --> 01:44:38,452
Speaker 2: in the plane at this time and fly there. But

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01:44:38,492 --> 01:44:40,452
Speaker 2: I like the idea that you could be a pilot,

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01:44:40,973 --> 01:44:42,732
Speaker 2: pick someone up in a plane and go I'll fly

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01:44:42,732 --> 01:44:43,452
Speaker 2: over there and drop you off.

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01:44:43,492 --> 01:44:45,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just we're just stop in it, tight on it.

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Speaker 3: No problem there, Darryl. How are you Yeah?

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Speaker 18: Good?

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01:44:49,213 --> 01:44:50,892
Speaker 2: How are you very good? Mates?

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01:44:51,652 --> 01:44:52,213
Speaker 5: Good? Yes.

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01:44:52,372 --> 01:44:56,132
Speaker 24: I used to work in the bab Islands and I

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01:44:56,173 --> 01:44:58,772
Speaker 24: met a backpacker there, an English backpacker, and I thought, well,

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01:44:58,772 --> 01:45:00,852
Speaker 24: I'm going to follow her around the country. So she

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01:45:00,933 --> 01:45:03,612
Speaker 24: was in Queenstown, so I made my way to Wellington.

2187
01:45:03,652 --> 01:45:06,452
Speaker 24: I didn't had chokes Wellington to Queenstown, met her there,

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01:45:06,933 --> 01:45:10,852
Speaker 24: convinced her to come back to Wellington with me. Pitch

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01:45:10,853 --> 01:45:13,492
Speaker 24: shike back, so we hit tried. From Queenstown. We got

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01:45:13,532 --> 01:45:18,333
Speaker 24: picked up by a really strange chap who, on reflection,

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01:45:18,372 --> 01:45:19,973
Speaker 24: we probably shouldn't have gotten his car because when we

2192
01:45:20,013 --> 01:45:22,172
Speaker 24: looked in the back of his duty had all these guns.

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01:45:23,173 --> 01:45:26,013
Speaker 24: He dropped us off in the middle of nowhere. We

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01:45:26,133 --> 01:45:27,612
Speaker 24: then put our thumb out to get a ride and

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01:45:27,652 --> 01:45:29,572
Speaker 24: we were supposed to be going to christ it's just

2196
01:45:29,652 --> 01:45:33,572
Speaker 24: over my sister's boyfriend and his bloke picked us up,

2197
01:45:33,612 --> 01:45:36,013
Speaker 24: put our put our bags in his boot and then

2198
01:45:36,053 --> 01:45:37,772
Speaker 24: said what would you do if I took off now,

2199
01:45:38,452 --> 01:45:41,333
Speaker 24: which freaked us out, but he didn't and happened to

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01:45:41,372 --> 01:45:44,133
Speaker 24: live on the same street as my sister's boyfriend, so

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01:45:44,333 --> 01:45:48,372
Speaker 24: dropped us off there. And yeah, and that backpack is

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01:45:48,412 --> 01:45:50,452
Speaker 24: now my wife who married twenty five years.

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01:45:50,973 --> 01:45:53,692
Speaker 2: So yeah, that had a great story. That's what a

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01:45:53,732 --> 01:45:57,053
Speaker 2: fantastic story, and what a what a great you know

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01:45:57,093 --> 01:46:00,892
Speaker 2: how I met story to share with people? Fantastic. So

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01:46:00,973 --> 01:46:03,972
Speaker 2: that's the second that's the second marriage we've heard from hitchhiking.

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01:46:04,013 --> 01:46:06,173
Speaker 3: I think it's more successful than tonight. So if you're

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01:46:06,173 --> 01:46:09,492
Speaker 3: looking for love, stick your thumb. Yep, it's the best

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01:46:09,532 --> 01:46:12,372
Speaker 3: way exactly. If you need someone in your life, go ahead.

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01:46:12,412 --> 01:46:17,333
Speaker 3: Shiking is the number to call.

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01:46:17,732 --> 01:46:18,052
Speaker 7: Joe.

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01:46:18,652 --> 01:46:19,772
Speaker 3: You got a story about Jack?

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01:46:21,253 --> 01:46:21,732
Speaker 26: Yes I have.

2214
01:46:22,053 --> 01:46:22,932
Speaker 12: I've got sea ball.

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01:46:23,013 --> 01:46:26,173
Speaker 22: Actually, it's made me think back to the nineteen sixties.

2216
01:46:26,772 --> 01:46:29,172
Speaker 22: I was teaching just north of Partier.

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01:46:31,093 --> 01:46:32,572
Speaker 3: Are you there, Yeah, yep, we're listening.

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01:46:32,893 --> 01:46:37,892
Speaker 22: Oh good, sorry, And to get home to rata Heab,

2219
01:46:38,053 --> 01:46:42,093
Speaker 22: which is where my parents were. You had to catch

2220
01:46:42,093 --> 01:46:45,092
Speaker 22: a bus to Martin and a train to Ora Kearney,

2221
01:46:45,133 --> 01:46:48,173
Speaker 22: and you know it was hopeless. So I put my

2222
01:46:48,213 --> 01:46:51,173
Speaker 22: thumb out and I had my high heeled shoes on.

2223
01:46:51,333 --> 01:46:53,253
Speaker 22: I was carrying a hat. I wanted to look as

2224
01:46:53,333 --> 01:46:55,732
Speaker 22: though my car had broken down down the road.

2225
01:46:58,093 --> 01:47:03,253
Speaker 19: This old old man stopped the car and off we

2226
01:47:03,333 --> 01:47:08,333
Speaker 19: went to Monganuit and that was fine.

2227
01:47:08,492 --> 01:47:13,372
Speaker 22: Years later, I come home from England. I'm sent part

2228
01:47:13,412 --> 01:47:17,293
Speaker 22: here District High School to relieve once again. I'm going

2229
01:47:17,293 --> 01:47:20,253
Speaker 22: home to rati heat and this is an old man

2230
01:47:20,973 --> 01:47:23,732
Speaker 22: stops his car and I get him and he said,

2231
01:47:24,853 --> 01:47:29,092
Speaker 22: I've only ever picked up one hitchhiker before, And I said,

2232
01:47:29,133 --> 01:47:33,412
Speaker 22: oh really, Yes, she was a young girl. She was

2233
01:47:33,452 --> 01:47:38,652
Speaker 22: going to England and she had to get home to

2234
01:47:38,853 --> 01:47:42,532
Speaker 22: rah And I said that was.

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01:47:42,492 --> 01:47:44,652
Speaker 2: Me to see where does this going? There was you.

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01:47:44,692 --> 01:47:47,173
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. So the only hitchhiker he ever

2237
01:47:47,213 --> 01:47:49,692
Speaker 2: picked up was you. Twice. He must have really liked

2238
01:47:49,692 --> 01:47:54,452
Speaker 2: the look of you. Were you trying I've broken down

2239
01:47:55,093 --> 01:47:56,013
Speaker 2: trick the second dime?

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01:47:58,612 --> 01:48:01,013
Speaker 22: No, probably not, because I had had a lot of

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01:48:01,053 --> 01:48:03,852
Speaker 22: experience hitch hiking in Europe.

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01:48:04,253 --> 01:48:06,532
Speaker 12: So I do that scene.

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01:48:07,532 --> 01:48:10,852
Speaker 22: But the same thing happened in Norway. Hei girlfriend and

2244
01:48:10,893 --> 01:48:14,972
Speaker 22: I we're hitching up to nord Tarp and it was

2245
01:48:15,452 --> 01:48:19,572
Speaker 22: in the southern part at this stage, and this man

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01:48:19,692 --> 01:48:23,053
Speaker 22: picked us up three times. He was a businessman and

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01:48:23,093 --> 01:48:27,133
Speaker 22: he had business to do in various places.

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01:48:27,173 --> 01:48:29,572
Speaker 12: It was very hard to get a ride in Norway.

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01:48:30,093 --> 01:48:33,612
Speaker 22: I think I heard somebody talking about it before who

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01:48:33,652 --> 01:48:34,692
Speaker 22: said it still is.

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01:48:35,372 --> 01:48:39,133
Speaker 2: Right, well, very few cars. There's something about you, Joe

2252
01:48:39,133 --> 01:48:40,412
Speaker 2: that makes people want to pick you up.

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01:48:40,492 --> 01:48:42,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, three times for the businessman. You've got to be

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01:48:42,612 --> 01:48:43,053
Speaker 3: proud of that.

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01:48:43,372 --> 01:48:47,812
Speaker 2: Repeat. Business is your hitchhiking thing. Thanks to you, cool Joe.

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01:48:48,133 --> 01:48:50,652
Speaker 2: The Sex has always had the best sessions with gangs

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01:48:51,013 --> 01:48:53,253
Speaker 2: that picked me up when hitchhiking. I'm sure their mission

2258
01:48:53,333 --> 01:48:55,532
Speaker 2: was to get hitchhikers as smashed as they could before

2259
01:48:55,612 --> 01:48:58,372
Speaker 2: dropping us off. Never had an issue with any of

2260
01:48:58,412 --> 01:49:01,572
Speaker 2: the rides with gangs, just finding my final destination was

2261
01:49:01,612 --> 01:49:02,693
Speaker 2: off in the problem.

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01:49:03,412 --> 01:49:07,133
Speaker 3: That tracks for you man, great text. Yeah all right,

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01:49:07,173 --> 01:49:10,253
Speaker 3: it is eleven two four. We'll get to a few

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01:49:10,253 --> 01:49:12,852
Speaker 3: more texts before we wrap this up bag very shortly.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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01:49:17,492 --> 01:49:18,452
Speaker 1: everything in between.

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01:49:18,652 --> 01:49:21,492
Speaker 6: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons.

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01:49:21,093 --> 01:49:21,692
Speaker 7: Used talk.

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Speaker 3: News talks there b it is eight to four. Get

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01:49:25,853 --> 01:49:29,013
Speaker 3: a tony good here. You are very good, mate, ken

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01:49:29,093 --> 01:49:29,652
Speaker 3: on your story.

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01:49:31,013 --> 01:49:33,492
Speaker 5: I used to do a bit of driving for her

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01:49:33,612 --> 01:49:35,933
Speaker 5: to the student hitch down to the need and to

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01:49:35,933 --> 01:49:38,772
Speaker 5: see some mates pitching out of their back up to

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01:49:38,853 --> 01:49:41,612
Speaker 5: christ and this sales rep picked me up in his

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01:49:41,692 --> 01:49:43,213
Speaker 5: car and the ouse wanted it and I said, I'm

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01:49:43,213 --> 01:49:46,452
Speaker 5: a student but driving, said you want to drive me home,

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01:49:46,612 --> 01:49:50,293
Speaker 5: so jump in his car. I don't want the driving.

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01:49:50,372 --> 01:49:50,652
Speaker 18: He was.

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01:49:51,093 --> 01:49:53,772
Speaker 5: I think still how pissed from the night before. We

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01:49:53,853 --> 01:49:55,772
Speaker 5: got a star has done stand on and he said,

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01:49:55,772 --> 01:49:58,173
Speaker 5: I'm thirsty. You want to stop from Berenice you love

2283
01:49:58,213 --> 01:50:00,852
Speaker 5: to He stopped for beer, he paid for them nice

2284
01:50:00,973 --> 01:50:04,173
Speaker 5: that I'm not driving now you can, so he gave

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01:50:04,213 --> 01:50:08,293
Speaker 5: me a lift rist away. I was doing some good

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01:50:08,333 --> 01:50:10,452
Speaker 5: yours a ride and they were a couple of over

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01:50:10,893 --> 01:50:14,253
Speaker 5: people and bringing them back up the east coast and

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01:50:14,412 --> 01:50:16,213
Speaker 5: ask them what they'll be doing. They said, we were

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01:50:16,253 --> 01:50:20,132
Speaker 5: hitching hitching down the west coast. Got a lift from Graymouth,

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01:50:20,253 --> 01:50:23,133
Speaker 5: Hoka ticker and guys said, that's the proze ongoing, but

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01:50:23,173 --> 01:50:25,412
Speaker 5: I'll drop you. The mate's place a little farm out

2292
01:50:25,412 --> 01:50:27,812
Speaker 5: of town. Shaid, if you wait here, they'll pick out.

2293
01:50:28,253 --> 01:50:30,572
Speaker 5: So they waited an hour or so, wondering if this

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01:50:30,692 --> 01:50:33,213
Speaker 5: mate was going to come. Next thing, this helicopter comes

2295
01:50:33,213 --> 01:50:36,932
Speaker 5: over and lands, say you the girls wanting to lift

2296
01:50:36,933 --> 01:50:40,253
Speaker 5: down to Fox or Fans. They said, yeah, so jump in.

2297
01:50:40,412 --> 01:50:42,213
Speaker 5: So the girls in their packs jumping in. Well, there's

2298
01:50:42,253 --> 01:50:45,213
Speaker 5: these guys are flying south. They said, look, this could

2299
01:50:45,213 --> 01:50:47,093
Speaker 5: be a bit of a roller coaster ride. We're actually

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01:50:47,133 --> 01:50:49,253
Speaker 5: going to try and find the deer to shoot on

2301
01:50:49,253 --> 01:50:53,253
Speaker 5: the way down. But sure enough, suddenly they're flying all

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01:50:53,293 --> 01:50:56,612
Speaker 5: over the sky in the seat, the shooter shoots the deer.

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01:50:57,853 --> 01:50:59,892
Speaker 5: The pilot suits the girls. Right, girls, you've got to

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01:50:59,893 --> 01:51:01,492
Speaker 5: get out there. So they dropped them in a bit

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01:51:01,532 --> 01:51:03,492
Speaker 5: of a clear in the middle of nowhere. These girls

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01:51:03,492 --> 01:51:07,412
Speaker 5: are saying, ow packs from that helicopter. Are they never

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01:51:07,452 --> 01:51:09,452
Speaker 5: going to come back and fry? Well, I came back

2308
01:51:09,492 --> 01:51:13,253
Speaker 5: with the dear slang under these guys said jumpin, so

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01:51:13,492 --> 01:51:16,412
Speaker 5: away they go. Took them down to their farment, Fox

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01:51:16,452 --> 01:51:18,572
Speaker 5: of Frans going to bed, and it feeds the night

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01:51:18,893 --> 01:51:19,452
Speaker 5: on their way.

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01:51:19,572 --> 01:51:25,052
Speaker 2: So absolutely yeah. Yeah, Well that's impressive and it's always

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01:51:25,053 --> 01:51:26,852
Speaker 2: good any story that involves done sandal.

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01:51:26,933 --> 01:51:31,932
Speaker 3: Yep, great place, great place, dunsandal. Fantastic discussion. Thank you

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01:51:32,133 --> 01:51:35,253
Speaker 3: very much to everyone who called antext on that one

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01:51:35,532 --> 01:51:35,892
Speaker 3: loved it.

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01:51:36,173 --> 01:51:38,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a great show it's been today. But that

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01:51:38,333 --> 01:51:41,412
Speaker 2: brings us to an end. Thank you so much for listening.

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01:51:41,412 --> 01:51:44,812
Speaker 2: We'll be back live tomorrow Tyler and I for another

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01:51:44,933 --> 01:51:47,892
Speaker 2: edition of Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Live from

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01:51:47,893 --> 01:51:48,813
Speaker 2: a midday.

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01:51:49,572 --> 01:51:50,532
Speaker 3: Looking forward to that.

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01:51:51,652 --> 01:51:55,572
Speaker 2: The legendary Heather Duplessy Allen is up next with your

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01:51:56,173 --> 01:52:00,053
Speaker 2: your zbe Drive. But right now, Tyler, why would I

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01:52:00,093 --> 01:52:02,532
Speaker 2: be Why would I be playing this song?

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01:52:02,732 --> 01:52:03,372
Speaker 20: Shune?

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01:52:04,893 --> 01:52:06,652
Speaker 2: Oh mate? This is an absolute banger.

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01:52:06,812 --> 01:52:11,372
Speaker 3: Good choice today, my row silver rope. Cause through your

2329
01:52:11,412 --> 01:52:14,652
Speaker 3: hitchhiking days and the craziness of your youth, this is

2330
01:52:14,652 --> 01:52:15,853
Speaker 3: where you got the inspiration.

2331
01:52:16,253 --> 01:52:19,053
Speaker 2: I wrote the song on the side of the road. Yeah,

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01:52:19,492 --> 01:52:25,253
Speaker 2: washdke how Chris fantastic journey. Crank it all right, he

2333
01:52:25,333 --> 01:52:29,012
Speaker 2: seemed as he will. Let you go, give a tasting,

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01:52:29,772 --> 01:52:34,972
Speaker 2: all right, Bang in the car.

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01:52:35,093 --> 01:52:39,253
Speaker 1: Back a bun leaving you.

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01:52:38,452 --> 01:52:51,093
Speaker 2: Say goodbye to Timmu current met.

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01:52:58,093 --> 01:53:26,052
Speaker 3: Wash stand. I cannot leave in this town thing good bye?

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01:53:28,532 --> 01:53:29,532
Speaker 2: Since you love me?

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01:53:29,933 --> 01:53:31,573
Speaker 5: How can of it Happy.

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01:53:31,452 --> 01:53:53,612
Speaker 6: Here, it's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

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01:53:54,572 --> 01:53:57,133
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01:53:57,293 --> 01:54:00,253
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