1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from news Talk ZEDB. 3 00:00:12,907 --> 00:00:16,547 Speaker 2: Thursday, Australia wrapped up a four to one Ashes series 4 00:00:16,627 --> 00:00:19,347 Speaker 2: victory over England, winning the final Test in Sydney by 5 00:00:19,387 --> 00:00:24,467 Speaker 2: five wikets and true the winning runs. It's in the 6 00:00:24,467 --> 00:00:29,107 Speaker 2: Battle of Alex Kerry. Fine series by the Australian widgit 7 00:00:29,227 --> 00:00:34,907 Speaker 2: keeper Fine all round series by the entire Australian squad. 8 00:00:35,227 --> 00:00:37,867 Speaker 2: So let's wrap the series with our Australian correspondent to 9 00:00:37,867 --> 00:00:40,547 Speaker 2: Adam Peacock, who joins us in his regular slot. You've 10 00:00:40,547 --> 00:00:43,387 Speaker 2: been covering the Ashes brilliantly both here with us but 11 00:00:43,467 --> 00:00:46,747 Speaker 2: also on your Willow Talk podcast. Adam, I want to 12 00:00:46,747 --> 00:00:50,267 Speaker 2: ask you about a few different features of the Ashes. 13 00:00:50,627 --> 00:00:54,387 Speaker 2: Let's start with Travis Head. Incredible series from him, six 14 00:00:54,547 --> 00:00:57,787 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty nine runs and ten innings, three centuries. 15 00:00:57,867 --> 00:01:00,147 Speaker 2: Nine of those ten innings opening the batting, which is 16 00:01:00,187 --> 00:01:03,027 Speaker 2: not his regular slot. You normally find them batting at 17 00:01:03,067 --> 00:01:08,067 Speaker 2: number five in Test matches. Given his success, will travish'd 18 00:01:08,067 --> 00:01:10,787 Speaker 2: continue to open the batting for Australia in teest matches? 19 00:01:11,147 --> 00:01:14,907 Speaker 3: Yeah? Great, plenty, I reckon he will actually looking at 20 00:01:14,947 --> 00:01:18,587 Speaker 3: the schedule coming up. I think of the subcontinent he 21 00:01:18,667 --> 00:01:23,827 Speaker 3: was always going to open. When they last went to India, 22 00:01:23,867 --> 00:01:25,987 Speaker 3: he started opening the batting. I think he'll do the 23 00:01:26,027 --> 00:01:27,747 Speaker 3: same in twelve months time when we're over there at 24 00:01:27,787 --> 00:01:30,507 Speaker 3: the five Tests, and before then we're playing Bangladesh, We're 25 00:01:30,507 --> 00:01:33,507 Speaker 3: playing new guys over here. So I can't see any 26 00:01:33,547 --> 00:01:36,827 Speaker 3: reason why he wouldn't. The way he plays the white 27 00:01:36,867 --> 00:01:40,747 Speaker 3: ball game translates now to the red ball game. Like 28 00:01:40,947 --> 00:01:43,307 Speaker 3: David Warner was an attacking player, I think Travis Head 29 00:01:43,347 --> 00:01:47,787 Speaker 3: he is an even more attacking player, unconventional, more unconventional 30 00:01:47,867 --> 00:01:49,827 Speaker 3: than David Warner, but you get the same results. I 31 00:01:49,827 --> 00:01:54,667 Speaker 3: think with our batting stocks in three, four five, we've 32 00:01:54,667 --> 00:01:57,347 Speaker 3: got options there that we can use. If Travis does 33 00:01:57,347 --> 00:01:58,747 Speaker 3: go up the audio, I reckon he will. 34 00:01:58,987 --> 00:02:01,107 Speaker 2: Was it any surprise that he did so well, because 35 00:02:01,147 --> 00:02:03,867 Speaker 2: he's hardly ever opened in test matches and this was 36 00:02:03,947 --> 00:02:07,867 Speaker 2: really it wasn't by design, more by necessity, wasn't it. 37 00:02:07,907 --> 00:02:11,147 Speaker 2: But were you surprised at all at the way he 38 00:02:11,227 --> 00:02:13,067 Speaker 2: equipped himself to opening the betting? 39 00:02:13,747 --> 00:02:13,987 Speaker 1: Yeah? 40 00:02:14,307 --> 00:02:18,187 Speaker 3: I was like, it certainly wasn't on anyone's prediction card 41 00:02:18,227 --> 00:02:19,987 Speaker 3: that he was going to open the batting at any 42 00:02:20,067 --> 00:02:23,467 Speaker 3: stage during the Ashes, regardless of what happened with Usmam Kwaishor, 43 00:02:23,507 --> 00:02:25,987 Speaker 3: I think we would have found another opener, but just 44 00:02:26,067 --> 00:02:29,987 Speaker 3: him flippantly saying yaol opened when Usam Kaisher wasn't ready 45 00:02:29,987 --> 00:02:32,387 Speaker 3: to open the batting in the second innings in Perth, 46 00:02:32,747 --> 00:02:34,667 Speaker 3: it was certainly a better option than the first innings 47 00:02:34,667 --> 00:02:37,107 Speaker 3: when mar mclabashet got chunted up and then Steve Smith 48 00:02:37,187 --> 00:02:40,147 Speaker 3: went up and kind of disjointed the whole order. It 49 00:02:40,187 --> 00:02:43,427 Speaker 3: was just one placement now that we had to we 50 00:02:43,507 --> 00:02:48,307 Speaker 3: had to figure out. So yeah, I think definitely it's 51 00:02:48,347 --> 00:02:51,907 Speaker 3: his place, and yeah it's exciting to watch when he's 52 00:02:51,947 --> 00:02:54,067 Speaker 3: upt the top of the order. And yeah, it was 53 00:02:54,067 --> 00:02:56,387 Speaker 3: a weird old theory point because we didn't have these 54 00:02:58,267 --> 00:03:03,347 Speaker 3: absolute breakout stars. Apart from Travor's head Alex Cary Mitt Stark, 55 00:03:03,827 --> 00:03:07,907 Speaker 3: every other player that played set the world on fire. 56 00:03:07,947 --> 00:03:10,827 Speaker 3: But the difference was that the Australians who played, they 57 00:03:10,867 --> 00:03:15,387 Speaker 3: all made some kind of meaningful difference with one moment 58 00:03:15,747 --> 00:03:19,867 Speaker 3: or more, whereas the English didn't have that. They didn't 59 00:03:19,987 --> 00:03:23,147 Speaker 3: have these players popping up with big moments here and there. 60 00:03:23,387 --> 00:03:26,107 Speaker 3: You had Joe Route, you had Jacob Bethel scot in 61 00:03:26,187 --> 00:03:29,067 Speaker 3: centries that they didn't have enough friends and that was 62 00:03:29,107 --> 00:03:30,307 Speaker 3: the key in. 63 00:03:30,307 --> 00:03:32,827 Speaker 2: Terms of the Australian batting order. We know Osmond Kawhaja 64 00:03:32,867 --> 00:03:35,587 Speaker 2: now steps away from Test matches, so we know Travis 65 00:03:35,667 --> 00:03:38,267 Speaker 2: Head's going to be there in some way, shape or form. 66 00:03:38,307 --> 00:03:40,787 Speaker 2: But what about the others, Jack Weather or only a 67 00:03:40,827 --> 00:03:43,667 Speaker 2: couple of hundred runs in the series, Manus Labashane averaging 68 00:03:43,747 --> 00:03:47,467 Speaker 2: under thirty, Cam Green averaging under twenty five. I mean, 69 00:03:47,627 --> 00:03:52,067 Speaker 2: we know Steve Smith's magnificent player. Are there questions about 70 00:03:52,107 --> 00:03:55,147 Speaker 2: the Test batting order over the next twelve to eighteen 71 00:03:55,147 --> 00:03:55,627 Speaker 2: months or so. 72 00:03:56,387 --> 00:03:59,827 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's still not settled. You're right about Jake 73 00:03:59,867 --> 00:04:05,227 Speaker 3: whether or he doesn't have the you know, the backing 74 00:04:05,267 --> 00:04:08,627 Speaker 3: of a h huge kind of body of work, especially 75 00:04:08,627 --> 00:04:12,747 Speaker 3: at the international level. Cameron Green they just like because 76 00:04:12,747 --> 00:04:14,627 Speaker 3: he can bowl over one forty and he can bat 77 00:04:14,667 --> 00:04:17,547 Speaker 3: well and when he puts his head to it and 78 00:04:17,627 --> 00:04:21,267 Speaker 3: he peeks it out, he's going to be immensely, immensely 79 00:04:21,307 --> 00:04:24,187 Speaker 3: difficult to stop. But at the moment everyone's frustrated that 80 00:04:24,227 --> 00:04:26,227 Speaker 3: he keeps on throwing his wicket away and not providing 81 00:04:26,347 --> 00:04:28,867 Speaker 3: much with the ball. I think that's a little harsh 82 00:04:28,907 --> 00:04:30,547 Speaker 3: to the ladder one. I think he provides a lot 83 00:04:30,547 --> 00:04:34,107 Speaker 3: with the ball, he plays a role, but with the bat, yeah, definitely, 84 00:04:34,107 --> 00:04:36,747 Speaker 3: he's been disappointing, so he'll be given chances. And Marnus 85 00:04:36,787 --> 00:04:40,467 Speaker 3: I think as well. He showed signs during this ashes 86 00:04:40,467 --> 00:04:42,187 Speaker 3: that he's working out, and then he showed signs of 87 00:04:42,267 --> 00:04:46,027 Speaker 3: his old self when he became really confused. So yeah, 88 00:04:46,187 --> 00:04:49,747 Speaker 3: you're right, there's questions, but I think there's there's more. 89 00:04:50,067 --> 00:04:52,387 Speaker 3: There's a more settled feel to the team out of 90 00:04:52,427 --> 00:04:55,227 Speaker 3: the Test series and then before going in, and I 91 00:04:55,307 --> 00:04:58,067 Speaker 3: think that's down to a number of factors. Namely some 92 00:04:58,147 --> 00:05:01,187 Speaker 3: of them made him up, and secondly England just didn't 93 00:05:01,227 --> 00:05:03,147 Speaker 3: throw enough at us on a consistent base. 94 00:05:03,467 --> 00:05:05,587 Speaker 2: What about bo Webster comes in and gets seventy or 95 00:05:05,667 --> 00:05:07,747 Speaker 2: not out, picks up three for and the second innings 96 00:05:07,747 --> 00:05:10,387 Speaker 2: of the fiftiest where was he in the first four? 97 00:05:11,027 --> 00:05:13,027 Speaker 3: Yeah, well there was not a spot for him. And 98 00:05:13,627 --> 00:05:15,827 Speaker 3: it's a hard one because on paper it looks like 99 00:05:15,827 --> 00:05:18,067 Speaker 3: they've made a horrible mistake, but I don't think they did. 100 00:05:18,147 --> 00:05:19,787 Speaker 3: They were three one up in the series when he 101 00:05:19,827 --> 00:05:23,667 Speaker 3: came into the team, so they were still winning games. 102 00:05:25,147 --> 00:05:27,947 Speaker 3: I get the feeling that bow is judged on the 103 00:05:27,947 --> 00:05:30,387 Speaker 3: fact that, yes, he's a very good all rounder, but 104 00:05:30,867 --> 00:05:34,507 Speaker 3: Cameron Green has more upside. So now that you look 105 00:05:34,547 --> 00:05:37,227 Speaker 3: at his figures now and people say, well you can't 106 00:05:37,267 --> 00:05:41,027 Speaker 3: lie against that, well you can't, but they have to 107 00:05:41,027 --> 00:05:42,787 Speaker 3: make a judgment call if they're only going to one 108 00:05:42,787 --> 00:05:45,467 Speaker 3: all round her and at the moment, Cameron Green, I think, 109 00:05:45,507 --> 00:05:48,627 Speaker 3: because of his air speed with the ball, gets the 110 00:05:48,787 --> 00:05:51,827 Speaker 3: not so yeah, it'll be a big discussion point out 111 00:05:51,827 --> 00:05:53,547 Speaker 3: of the next day a month they when Australia start 112 00:05:53,587 --> 00:05:57,027 Speaker 3: playing chest cricket aloft from about August. 113 00:05:57,347 --> 00:06:02,227 Speaker 2: Which English players adam leave with an enhanced reputation or 114 00:06:02,267 --> 00:06:05,147 Speaker 2: even with their reputation intact. 115 00:06:06,427 --> 00:06:11,667 Speaker 3: Enhance. Josh Tungue, Jacob Bethel and therein lies the problem 116 00:06:11,707 --> 00:06:14,627 Speaker 3: because they didn't they weren't. They weren't then good enough 117 00:06:14,627 --> 00:06:18,707 Speaker 3: to play in the first two Tests, which seems ridiculous. 118 00:06:19,547 --> 00:06:21,187 Speaker 3: Josh Tungu would have done really well in Perth, he 119 00:06:21,187 --> 00:06:24,387 Speaker 3: would have done exceptionally well in Brisbane, I reckon, but 120 00:06:24,947 --> 00:06:27,347 Speaker 3: he was judged to not not be ahead of the 121 00:06:27,387 --> 00:06:30,947 Speaker 3: other guys and their plans just didn't come off. Their 122 00:06:31,107 --> 00:06:34,547 Speaker 3: mentality wasn't quite there. But apart from that, I don't 123 00:06:34,547 --> 00:06:38,147 Speaker 3: think anyone anyone walks away with oh Joe Root can 124 00:06:38,187 --> 00:06:41,587 Speaker 3: walk away now saying oh, I'll kicked that. But really 125 00:06:41,627 --> 00:06:44,907 Speaker 3: Australia had had a bit of a strainer wanting for 126 00:06:44,907 --> 00:06:46,707 Speaker 3: the rest of the time when he wasn't scoring centuries, 127 00:06:46,787 --> 00:06:48,907 Speaker 3: especially in Adelaide when I really needed him and the 128 00:06:48,907 --> 00:06:50,707 Speaker 3: game could have been different with a big score from 129 00:06:50,747 --> 00:06:54,627 Speaker 3: Joe Rout and Pat Cummers just has his number. So yeah, 130 00:06:54,747 --> 00:06:56,667 Speaker 3: it goes two Bethel and time. 131 00:06:56,507 --> 00:06:58,467 Speaker 2: I reckon all right, and I want to talk about 132 00:06:58,467 --> 00:07:01,747 Speaker 2: Mitchell Stark. I mean, we talk about enhanced reputations cheap 133 00:07:01,747 --> 00:07:04,787 Speaker 2: as it's a high bar anyway, but thirty one wickets 134 00:07:05,347 --> 00:07:07,507 Speaker 2: in this series, all this great chat you had with 135 00:07:07,547 --> 00:07:09,827 Speaker 2: he and Alyssa Heally on Willow Talk and he talked 136 00:07:09,827 --> 00:07:12,507 Speaker 2: about keeping receipts. Can you can you give us a 137 00:07:12,547 --> 00:07:13,747 Speaker 2: quick summary of that chat? 138 00:07:14,427 --> 00:07:18,427 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, Mitch, Mitch is a guy that likes being motivated, 139 00:07:18,467 --> 00:07:20,947 Speaker 3: and he finds ways of getting motive like all supports 140 00:07:20,987 --> 00:07:23,467 Speaker 3: people do, and he doesn't mind talking about it. But yeah, 141 00:07:23,987 --> 00:07:26,147 Speaker 3: if someone's going to tell him he can't do something, 142 00:07:26,187 --> 00:07:28,267 Speaker 3: he's going to try and find a way to do it, 143 00:07:28,347 --> 00:07:30,187 Speaker 3: especially at this stage in his career. He knows his 144 00:07:30,307 --> 00:07:33,107 Speaker 3: game so well, he knows what he has to prepare 145 00:07:33,147 --> 00:07:35,187 Speaker 3: and that with Keith and Mit, he's got a great preparation. 146 00:07:35,387 --> 00:07:39,827 Speaker 3: He kind of didn't play he's retired from T twenty 147 00:07:39,867 --> 00:07:41,747 Speaker 3: so he didn't have to play that series against India, 148 00:07:41,947 --> 00:07:44,107 Speaker 3: played a couple of one dayers, but built up slowly, 149 00:07:44,187 --> 00:07:46,187 Speaker 3: played a couple of shield games. I think he did 150 00:07:46,707 --> 00:07:52,147 Speaker 3: and just got himself physically in absolute mint condition and 151 00:07:52,267 --> 00:07:53,867 Speaker 3: I think he went off to drink as well, which 152 00:07:54,307 --> 00:07:56,027 Speaker 3: maybe he's a good idea for all of us after 153 00:07:56,027 --> 00:07:59,507 Speaker 3: the Christmas period. So yeah, he just he just precked 154 00:07:59,547 --> 00:08:03,787 Speaker 3: himself so well and he got everything out of himself. 155 00:08:03,867 --> 00:08:06,147 Speaker 3: And yeah, absolutely pup for him. He's a great guy. 156 00:08:06,467 --> 00:08:10,027 Speaker 3: And yeah, with the fact that he had no pack comings, 157 00:08:10,067 --> 00:08:12,307 Speaker 3: no Josh Hazelwood, the other the other two and the 158 00:08:12,307 --> 00:08:15,627 Speaker 3: three man pace gang that we've got, and he had 159 00:08:15,667 --> 00:08:18,467 Speaker 3: to really carry the way. If he doesn't bowl well, 160 00:08:18,827 --> 00:08:21,267 Speaker 3: things are a lot harder for Australia. And time and 161 00:08:21,307 --> 00:08:23,427 Speaker 3: time again, I'll go to go back and check it, 162 00:08:23,507 --> 00:08:25,667 Speaker 3: but time and time again he took a wicket with 163 00:08:25,707 --> 00:08:28,827 Speaker 3: his first bell in an innings. I don't know how 164 00:08:28,867 --> 00:08:31,027 Speaker 3: many times he did it, but just felt like every 165 00:08:31,107 --> 00:08:34,387 Speaker 3: single time even about it. They were one for after 166 00:08:34,467 --> 00:08:39,747 Speaker 3: MITx finished his first bell. So yeah, incredible, incredible summer. 167 00:08:40,187 --> 00:08:42,667 Speaker 2: And his wife Alissa Healy. I mean, she's a terrific 168 00:08:42,667 --> 00:08:47,787 Speaker 2: cricketer as well, but her her incisive analysis both on 169 00:08:47,827 --> 00:08:52,107 Speaker 2: your podcast but also on the television broadcast. She's almost 170 00:08:52,147 --> 00:08:54,427 Speaker 2: like a player of the series off the field, doesn't. 171 00:08:54,227 --> 00:09:00,467 Speaker 3: She Yeah, yeah, that's pod On on day five, I said, 172 00:09:01,307 --> 00:09:03,347 Speaker 3: the two people are the series standing with me right 173 00:09:03,387 --> 00:09:07,387 Speaker 3: here that she like, it's no surprise to me what 174 00:09:07,387 --> 00:09:10,227 Speaker 3: she's doing on TV because we talk a lot on 175 00:09:10,667 --> 00:09:13,427 Speaker 3: the podcast obviously, but she's just she's just such a 176 00:09:13,507 --> 00:09:18,427 Speaker 3: natural human being, Like there's no bars about her. She's 177 00:09:18,707 --> 00:09:20,667 Speaker 3: one of the most competitive people I've ever met in 178 00:09:20,707 --> 00:09:23,627 Speaker 3: my life when you've thrown a sporting context a bit 179 00:09:23,707 --> 00:09:25,707 Speaker 3: with a golf club or a cricket bat or whatever. 180 00:09:25,787 --> 00:09:30,467 Speaker 3: But away from that, she's just you know, fun. I'll 181 00:09:30,547 --> 00:09:33,187 Speaker 3: sum it up by the fact that when this is 182 00:09:33,187 --> 00:09:36,427 Speaker 3: on the podcast, they're not giving away any secrets. Her 183 00:09:36,427 --> 00:09:40,227 Speaker 3: family know, well, they got her a NERF gun for Christmas, 184 00:09:40,267 --> 00:09:43,827 Speaker 3: so that kind of points to the type of mentality 185 00:09:44,027 --> 00:09:47,427 Speaker 3: she has in downtimes, she's just she just likes being 186 00:09:47,427 --> 00:09:50,227 Speaker 3: a kid. So no, she's good fun and a great 187 00:09:50,227 --> 00:09:54,267 Speaker 3: commentator and obviously got the cricket IQ in the in 188 00:09:54,307 --> 00:09:57,467 Speaker 3: the highest percentile. So yeah, look forward to hearing plenty 189 00:09:57,467 --> 00:09:59,427 Speaker 3: more of her over the next couple of decades. 190 00:09:59,427 --> 00:10:01,787 Speaker 2: I'd say absolutely, have loved your coverage of the Ashes 191 00:10:01,827 --> 00:10:03,827 Speaker 2: over the last of the last sort of five or 192 00:10:03,867 --> 00:10:06,067 Speaker 2: six weeks or so, Adam, and great to get your 193 00:10:06,067 --> 00:10:08,107 Speaker 2: Andelle Us here on the radio too. So I guess 194 00:10:08,107 --> 00:10:10,667 Speaker 2: it's the Aussie Open nixt for you. Is that your 195 00:10:10,747 --> 00:10:11,507 Speaker 2: next point of call? 196 00:10:12,267 --> 00:10:16,067 Speaker 3: Yes, heading down there on when it's Thursday, So yeah, 197 00:10:16,107 --> 00:10:17,867 Speaker 3: looking forward to that. Keeping rong on the tennis at 198 00:10:17,907 --> 00:10:20,427 Speaker 3: the moment, showing that Nick Krios but's probably the right 199 00:10:20,467 --> 00:10:22,667 Speaker 3: thing to do. He's not ready to play five five 200 00:10:22,667 --> 00:10:25,027 Speaker 3: set tennis, so just play the doubles. He'll become a 201 00:10:25,027 --> 00:10:26,867 Speaker 3: focal point every second day when he's playing with his 202 00:10:26,987 --> 00:10:29,707 Speaker 3: mate Donati, And yeah, the rest of it, it's senner 203 00:10:29,747 --> 00:10:32,827 Speaker 3: Olcaraz and men and then yeah, take your pick in 204 00:10:32,867 --> 00:10:33,747 Speaker 3: the women's again. 205 00:10:34,107 --> 00:10:36,827 Speaker 2: Look forward to catching up with you from Melbourne next week. 206 00:10:36,867 --> 00:10:38,667 Speaker 2: Always appreciate you your time on z B. 207 00:10:38,747 --> 00:10:40,427 Speaker 3: Adam, Here's funny have everyone. 208 00:10:40,227 --> 00:10:41,747 Speaker 2: You have a good one too, mate, Thanks indeed, Adam 209 00:10:41,787 --> 00:10:45,707 Speaker 2: Peacock with his wrap of the ashes Australia for England one. 210 00:10:46,467 --> 00:10:49,667 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 211 00:10:49,747 --> 00:10:53,067 Speaker 1: to News Talk zed B weekends from midday or follow 212 00:10:53,107 --> 00:10:54,707 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio