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Speaker 2: Hello, great news Inland. Met and Tyler Full Show Podcast

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Speaker 2: number two forty one for the twelfth of November. It's

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Speaker 2: a wednesdy and a big show today. Tell me what

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Speaker 3: We went deep into driving on drugs.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was great. There was a great chair,

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Speaker 2: And then we went into camping at the India and

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Speaker 2: that went off piece. But I think you'll enjoy that

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Speaker 1: The leak issues, the big trends and everything in between.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons.

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Speaker 3: News Talk sed B very good afternoons. You welcome into Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Have you having a good day where ever? You are

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Speaker 3: great to every companies always get a METS.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks tuning in. You've got in New Zealanders.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday I was talking about how I'm running a marathon

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Speaker 2: on the weekend on Saturday in Queenstown, and how I

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Speaker 3: You've had a lot going on.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to run a thirty five k a week

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Speaker 2: think you can't run long distances too close to the race.

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Speaker 2: And so I went to do that. But then, but

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Speaker 2: then I forgot that my mate from Regency Pimbing was coming.

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Speaker 3: Around right of course, so re Important.

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Speaker 2: Reagan was coming around to look at some stuff at

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Speaker 2: So then and so I was all of my running

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Speaker 3: And then we're getting close, the windows fast closing.

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Speaker 2: I've got no training, so so do I pull out?

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Speaker 3: Oh, you definitely don't pull out. No, you cannot pull out.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what do you do at this point? So

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Speaker 2: But there's a lot of runners out there. I know

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Speaker 2: high level runners, and they always have really good advice.

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Speaker 2: This is what I'm bringing this up. Actually just use

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Speaker 2: my radio show for my own personal ends. But advice

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Speaker 2: around nutrition leading up to the race would be really

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Speaker 3: Carbo load, carbo load, past to crazy pizza.

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Speaker 2: So if I can't get my training in an advance

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Speaker 3: hear your thoughts. If you've ever done a marathorn and

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Speaker 2: No, but that's great because if people go to the

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Speaker 3: thirty three years ago. That was for a position of cannabis,

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Speaker 3: a cannabis pipe, burglary, and unlawfully having a firearm. And

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Speaker 3: he says he's long since turned his life around, yet

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Speaker 2: And so we'd like to know if you've been given

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Speaker 2: And look, we're giving this topic a second chance because

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Speaker 3: Jant beautifully said that's after two. But right now, let's

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Speaker 3: Mid next year, it's going to start and willing to

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Speaker 3: next month, drivers will be tested on these four main drugs,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I find it quite interesting and because the

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Speaker 2: As drunk driving. I'd be interested to know how many

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Speaker 2: and the impairment that you have from alcohol is it

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Speaker 2: there's no deny, absolutely, yeah, but i'd be interested to

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Speaker 2: those are also alcohol? So you've got alcohol and something else.

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Speaker 3: That's where the nuance comes in, right, Because you're quite right,

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Speaker 3: quite often you'd think that someone who's on drugs arguably

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So if this is enforcement, that's that's one thing.

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Speaker 3: Yep. Nice, that is coming up next. It is fourteen

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons used talks.

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Speaker 5: That'd be.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon, Jue. So we are talking about the

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Speaker 3: new roadside drug testing that will be rolled out nationwide

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Speaker 3: next month as a trial. So to chat about this further,

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Speaker 2: Get it now, Sarah. Drugs are often lumped in together,

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Speaker 6: but what is really different is how long they say

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Speaker 6: those things are quite important when it comes to roadside

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Speaker 6: and you know, so for example, with cannabis, you might

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Speaker 6: be impaired for a few hours, and it stays in

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Speaker 6: saliva test for as many as seventy two hours. So

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Speaker 6: there's quite a big gap there.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying that cocaine, which is an upper and

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Speaker 6: I actually wouldn't hazard to guess that they would impair

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Speaker 6: the same, but they would cause impairment.

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Speaker 6: Another thing, just i'd love to just chip in here.

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Speaker 6: And I might also New Zealanders thinking about actually am

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Speaker 3: We are talking about the new roadside drug testing regime

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Speaker 2: The sexer says, you're not impaired if you smoke a

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Speaker 8: seeking adult jail sentences for fourteen year olds and older

434
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Speaker 8: who commit serious violent crimes, with a new bill dubbed

435
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Speaker 8: Adult Time for Violent Crime going before Parliament this year.

436
00:21:55,293 --> 00:21:59,573
Speaker 8: The Medicine's Amendment Bill has passed, allowing medications already approved

437
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Speaker 8: and too recognized overseas jurisdictions to get the all clear

438
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Speaker 8: here within thirty days. Big box US retail chain Costco

439
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Speaker 8: is opening a second Auckland branch at Drury, It's first

440
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Speaker 8: store launched at Westgate three years ago. Rocket Lamb is

441
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Speaker 8: delayed the first flight of its crew capable Neutron rocket

442
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Speaker 8: until next year. Seemore at ins and here all premium

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Speaker 8: back to matt Ethan Tyner Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Ray Lean. So we are talking

445
00:22:25,813 --> 00:22:27,853
Speaker 3: about this new drugard. I was going to say, drug

446
00:22:27,933 --> 00:22:30,773
Speaker 3: side roadside drug testing that is going to be rolled

447
00:22:30,773 --> 00:22:32,733
Speaker 3: out everywhere from next year. Are you a little bit

448
00:22:32,773 --> 00:22:35,053
Speaker 3: worried if you are someone that uses cannabis for medicinal

449
00:22:35,133 --> 00:22:38,253
Speaker 3: or other or prescription medicines. Love to get your thoughts.

450
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Speaker 2: Sam, Welcome to the show. Thank you for holding on

451
00:22:39,973 --> 00:22:43,013
Speaker 2: there for us to take your call. Appreciate that your

452
00:22:43,013 --> 00:22:45,573
Speaker 2: thoughts on this buddy, No drums.

453
00:22:45,693 --> 00:22:47,933
Speaker 4: Hey day lads, Thanks for having me on. First time

454
00:22:47,973 --> 00:22:50,573
Speaker 4: calling you guys up. But listen, listen to you every day.

455
00:22:50,613 --> 00:22:51,173
Speaker 3: Oh good man.

456
00:22:52,453 --> 00:22:52,693
Speaker 2: Yeah.

457
00:22:52,813 --> 00:22:55,293
Speaker 4: So, so for me, probably a little bit different to

458
00:22:55,853 --> 00:22:57,933
Speaker 4: a lot of people out there. And I'll be the

459
00:22:57,933 --> 00:23:01,613
Speaker 4: first to say if someone who uses medtal marijuana that

460
00:23:02,173 --> 00:23:03,693
Speaker 4: there are a lot of people out there just taking

461
00:23:03,733 --> 00:23:08,653
Speaker 4: a person who just use it to obtain cannabis, but

462
00:23:08,693 --> 00:23:10,813
Speaker 4: there are also a lot of us that that do

463
00:23:10,973 --> 00:23:15,133
Speaker 4: require it. So I got diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis last year,

464
00:23:15,373 --> 00:23:18,893
Speaker 4: just an autoimmune disease, and it has basically mutated both

465
00:23:18,893 --> 00:23:22,573
Speaker 4: of my hands, my knee, my ankles, and my elbows.

466
00:23:23,773 --> 00:23:26,533
Speaker 4: And to treat that, they put me on cancer treat

467
00:23:26,573 --> 00:23:30,613
Speaker 4: my drugs to the choice my immune system, and those

468
00:23:30,653 --> 00:23:33,813
Speaker 4: have a massive impact on my liver. So obviously, you

469
00:23:33,813 --> 00:23:36,253
Speaker 4: know alcohol to be very careful what I'm consuming, going

470
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Speaker 4: to look after my body and.

471
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Speaker 2: The rest of it.

472
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Speaker 4: But I also it comes with a lot of pain,

473
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Speaker 4: and I can handle that pain during the day it's uncomfortable,

474
00:23:43,773 --> 00:23:45,653
Speaker 4: but at night, when you're lying in bed, it's just,

475
00:23:45,933 --> 00:23:48,493
Speaker 4: you know, it's so much and I can't sleep. And

476
00:23:48,533 --> 00:23:50,973
Speaker 4: that's where the medical cannabis comes in. It's the only

477
00:23:51,013 --> 00:23:55,213
Speaker 4: medication that trolled me on that doesn't have any notifiable

478
00:23:55,293 --> 00:23:58,373
Speaker 4: or effect on my liver from the blood tested doing.

479
00:23:59,493 --> 00:24:02,013
Speaker 4: And it doesn't fix the pain, but that helps with

480
00:24:02,053 --> 00:24:05,493
Speaker 4: it at night. So I've been on that for a

481
00:24:05,533 --> 00:24:10,693
Speaker 4: while now and it's been working really well. This the

482
00:24:10,773 --> 00:24:15,053
Speaker 4: newsicles come out about the testaments can be happening my

483
00:24:15,253 --> 00:24:19,532
Speaker 4: doctor Cannabis Clinic and several other organizations that we've got

484
00:24:19,573 --> 00:24:24,093
Speaker 4: procos they've basically said with the patient they've got that

485
00:24:24,173 --> 00:24:29,373
Speaker 4: I will definitely fail a daytime test. So the specifications

486
00:24:29,373 --> 00:24:32,173
Speaker 4: I've got from the doctor is to wait more than

487
00:24:32,453 --> 00:24:36,853
Speaker 4: six hours after inhaling flour and wait more than ten

488
00:24:36,893 --> 00:24:42,013
Speaker 4: hours after consuming pure oil, which is like the second

489
00:24:42,093 --> 00:24:44,733
Speaker 4: level of pain relief. So the first level is to

490
00:24:44,773 --> 00:24:46,893
Speaker 4: have a small smoke and the second level is to

491
00:24:46,933 --> 00:24:49,493
Speaker 4: have up to zero point six of a mill of

492
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Speaker 4: basically pureity actually, which lasted their system for four As

493
00:24:54,013 --> 00:24:57,373
Speaker 4: I was saying between six and ten hours. But and

494
00:24:57,493 --> 00:24:59,813
Speaker 4: so the next day I have absolutely no effect for whatsoever.

495
00:25:01,533 --> 00:25:06,013
Speaker 4: And yet I will definitely test positive with the three

496
00:25:06,413 --> 00:25:09,213
Speaker 4: m g per mel test that can be done on

497
00:25:09,213 --> 00:25:16,213
Speaker 4: the roadside, and none of the doctors, none professionals really know,

498
00:25:16,413 --> 00:25:18,733
Speaker 4: like they've come back, and I've got an email here,

499
00:25:19,053 --> 00:25:22,813
Speaker 4: an official email here stating that there will be exemptions,

500
00:25:23,973 --> 00:25:27,973
Speaker 4: that it will require two positive roadside slider tests. At

501
00:25:27,973 --> 00:25:31,453
Speaker 4: that point I will be stood down for twelve hours. However,

502
00:25:32,813 --> 00:25:36,413
Speaker 4: that we are able to apply if we have an

503
00:25:36,453 --> 00:25:40,013
Speaker 4: active prescription and a letter of support that is no

504
00:25:40,133 --> 00:25:43,253
Speaker 4: more than six months old, that we can then apply

505
00:25:43,373 --> 00:25:50,133
Speaker 4: to have the conviction diverted, at which point we will

506
00:25:50,173 --> 00:25:52,973
Speaker 4: probably I will possibly be allowed to then just return

507
00:25:53,053 --> 00:25:57,052
Speaker 4: to normal data on activities after losing twelve hours. And

508
00:25:57,213 --> 00:26:00,613
Speaker 4: if I, for any reason don't get the exemption, it's

509
00:26:00,773 --> 00:26:04,493
Speaker 4: a turner dollar fine an fifty demerit points. And they

510
00:26:04,933 --> 00:26:09,253
Speaker 4: also put on here important legal implications. As a patient,

511
00:26:09,293 --> 00:26:12,653
Speaker 4: we recommend you do not consider the blood test option

512
00:26:13,893 --> 00:26:18,773
Speaker 4: that says, as the legal limit for THHC is low

513
00:26:18,973 --> 00:26:22,293
Speaker 4: at three ng per mil, opting for a blood test

514
00:26:22,413 --> 00:26:26,253
Speaker 4: would lead to a more serious consequence for example, conviction,

515
00:26:27,093 --> 00:26:31,933
Speaker 4: and then it goes on to say, as a first consiction.

516
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Speaker 2: So there's so you've got you've got prescribed medical marijuana,

517
00:26:35,453 --> 00:26:39,893
Speaker 2: but there can be a level of you know, what's

518
00:26:39,893 --> 00:26:44,893
Speaker 2: in your system that becomes illegal even though the drug

519
00:26:44,973 --> 00:26:46,413
Speaker 2: that you're taking is legal.

520
00:26:47,653 --> 00:26:49,173
Speaker 4: So that this is the part that we have not

521
00:26:49,253 --> 00:26:53,613
Speaker 4: had clarified. So that the letter I have got from

522
00:26:53,813 --> 00:26:58,213
Speaker 4: the from the doctor states important legal implications because they

523
00:26:58,253 --> 00:27:01,653
Speaker 4: don't quite understand themselves. It says, quote, patients should be

524
00:27:01,853 --> 00:27:05,413
Speaker 4: cautious when considering blood tests because you can do a

525
00:27:05,613 --> 00:27:07,813
Speaker 4: blood test instead of a SLAVI test if you choose.

526
00:27:09,573 --> 00:27:14,373
Speaker 4: As the legal limit for THHC in serum is low

527
00:27:14,533 --> 00:27:18,053
Speaker 4: at three m g, permel opting for a blood test

528
00:27:18,333 --> 00:27:21,653
Speaker 4: could lead to more serious consequences. It then goes on

529
00:27:21,733 --> 00:27:26,613
Speaker 4: to state section fifty seven. A DASH one carries a

530
00:27:26,693 --> 00:27:29,133
Speaker 4: maximum penalty of three months imprisonment or four and a

531
00:27:29,133 --> 00:27:32,653
Speaker 4: half thousand dollars fine, along with a minimum six month

532
00:27:32,773 --> 00:27:37,213
Speaker 4: driving disqualification if you have caught exceeding three mg per

533
00:27:37,293 --> 00:27:39,373
Speaker 4: mill on your bloods while driving.

534
00:27:39,573 --> 00:27:42,693
Speaker 2: Wow, that's interesting, But first of all, Sam, I'm all

535
00:27:42,693 --> 00:27:45,253
Speaker 2: the best with that that diagnosis made. That can't be easy.

536
00:27:45,293 --> 00:27:49,013
Speaker 2: So your thoughts with you, you're on that one, and

537
00:27:49,453 --> 00:27:53,292
Speaker 2: I'm pleased that that the medical marijuana is offering you,

538
00:27:53,213 --> 00:27:56,373
Speaker 2: you know, the ability to sleep, because obviously that is

539
00:27:56,413 --> 00:27:58,013
Speaker 2: one of the most important things, especially when it comes

540
00:27:58,053 --> 00:28:01,573
Speaker 2: to impairment, because if people can't sleep, being tired behind

541
00:28:01,573 --> 00:28:02,213
Speaker 2: the wheel.

542
00:28:01,973 --> 00:28:03,653
Speaker 4: Is the worst of the more.

543
00:28:03,733 --> 00:28:04,053
Speaker 9: Mate.

544
00:28:04,293 --> 00:28:06,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you're asleep behind the wheel, then

545
00:28:06,413 --> 00:28:10,053
Speaker 2: you can't you're not at driving. Yeah, but when you

546
00:28:10,093 --> 00:28:13,973
Speaker 2: say that you take this, you know, the marijuana stays

547
00:28:13,973 --> 00:28:15,493
Speaker 2: in the system for you know what do they say,

548
00:28:15,813 --> 00:28:18,013
Speaker 2: probably not drive for ten hours? How long would you

549
00:28:18,053 --> 00:28:22,533
Speaker 2: say that you would be impaired? So that's really the

550
00:28:23,253 --> 00:28:24,893
Speaker 2: thrust of us has to be to try and stop

551
00:28:24,893 --> 00:28:29,573
Speaker 2: compared drivers. Right, so you've taken the midal of marijuana,

552
00:28:29,573 --> 00:28:30,693
Speaker 2: how long would you be impaired?

553
00:28:31,693 --> 00:28:33,453
Speaker 10: Okay, so basically when when?

554
00:28:34,053 --> 00:28:36,613
Speaker 4: Because I wasn't a smoker before this, So when when

555
00:28:36,653 --> 00:28:39,333
Speaker 4: I first started consuming it would take very little what

556
00:28:39,373 --> 00:28:42,573
Speaker 4: they call flower, which is a smoke to have a

557
00:28:42,733 --> 00:28:47,253
Speaker 4: very intense I was definitely impaired. And at first that

558
00:28:47,253 --> 00:28:49,853
Speaker 4: would last for a good three or four hours, which

559
00:28:49,853 --> 00:28:51,773
Speaker 4: people laugh and they got sha't stay stone for that long.

560
00:28:51,813 --> 00:28:54,573
Speaker 4: But That's how I would feel it. But after a while,

561
00:28:54,573 --> 00:28:56,653
Speaker 4: as I bought an immunity in a torrance to it,

562
00:28:57,533 --> 00:28:59,893
Speaker 4: you know, I would get less off that same amount,

563
00:28:59,973 --> 00:29:03,813
Speaker 4: and it would I would feel the impuedment for much less. Now,

564
00:29:03,973 --> 00:29:09,013
Speaker 4: when I have my medical flower, which I can zero

565
00:29:09,093 --> 00:29:11,853
Speaker 4: clint one of a gram per evening, it's weighed out

566
00:29:12,373 --> 00:29:16,973
Speaker 4: and it's sun Draymatically, I feel impaired for about half

567
00:29:16,973 --> 00:29:19,773
Speaker 4: an hour, and I feel as if I would be

568
00:29:19,813 --> 00:29:22,613
Speaker 4: able to function quite well after about an hour. However,

569
00:29:23,573 --> 00:29:26,733
Speaker 4: I'd never ever ever go below the six hour mark,

570
00:29:26,773 --> 00:29:29,493
Speaker 4: which is what is recommended. But because I only consume

571
00:29:29,493 --> 00:29:32,053
Speaker 4: it at nighttime, at about ten o'clock at night, and

572
00:29:32,093 --> 00:29:34,493
Speaker 4: I'm not up until sort of seven o'clock the next day,

573
00:29:35,053 --> 00:29:37,893
Speaker 4: it's often nine or ten hours before I do drive,

574
00:29:38,013 --> 00:29:41,293
Speaker 4: even though I do feel that there's steps has gone away,

575
00:29:41,333 --> 00:29:42,693
Speaker 4: but I just I'd never cross that line.

576
00:29:43,093 --> 00:29:45,253
Speaker 3: I mean, you've showing the fishoks and you know when

577
00:29:45,253 --> 00:29:46,973
Speaker 3: it comes to someone like yourself, you've got a chronic

578
00:29:47,053 --> 00:29:50,293
Speaker 3: disease and you need medicinal cannabis to leave the pain.

579
00:29:50,653 --> 00:29:53,133
Speaker 3: So with the troll happening in well into next month, Sam,

580
00:29:53,213 --> 00:29:54,773
Speaker 3: I mean, what do you think needs to happen here.

581
00:29:54,973 --> 00:29:57,333
Speaker 3: It's incredibly complex with cannabis.

582
00:29:57,533 --> 00:29:59,373
Speaker 4: Just needs to be transparent. It just needs to be

583
00:29:59,453 --> 00:30:03,133
Speaker 4: transparent what we can and can't do, because right now

584
00:30:03,493 --> 00:30:05,733
Speaker 4: this whole thing was being pushed. It is not about

585
00:30:06,133 --> 00:30:09,293
Speaker 4: getting impaired people off the road. It's getting people with

586
00:30:09,373 --> 00:30:11,933
Speaker 4: traces of drug in their system off the road. And

587
00:30:11,973 --> 00:30:13,213
Speaker 4: there are two very different things.

588
00:30:13,333 --> 00:30:17,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, when it comes to cannabis, because you need to.

589
00:30:18,453 --> 00:30:20,853
Speaker 4: If they said, right, you need a license that you

590
00:30:20,933 --> 00:30:23,093
Speaker 4: carry on you, which I mean I believe at the

591
00:30:23,093 --> 00:30:26,533
Speaker 4: moment they are clarifying that as an active prescription and

592
00:30:26,613 --> 00:30:29,573
Speaker 4: a supporting LEVET letter no longer than six months old.

593
00:30:29,933 --> 00:30:31,693
Speaker 4: So if we carried that on us, and then they said,

594
00:30:31,733 --> 00:30:36,773
Speaker 4: because you're you have a license where you need to

595
00:30:36,813 --> 00:30:39,933
Speaker 4: test below this and reading and perhaps there's like a

596
00:30:39,973 --> 00:30:41,973
Speaker 4: home test kit that we can go and purchase ourselves too,

597
00:30:42,093 --> 00:30:44,133
Speaker 4: to travel it to find out where that actual legal

598
00:30:44,133 --> 00:30:48,093
Speaker 4: wine is. Yeah, because i feel like one one hundred

599
00:30:48,133 --> 00:30:51,253
Speaker 4: and ten percent candle of driving after more than six

600
00:30:51,333 --> 00:30:55,653
Speaker 4: to ten hours of consuming marijuana, and yet I've got

601
00:30:55,653 --> 00:30:56,493
Speaker 4: no idea if it's legal.

602
00:30:56,653 --> 00:30:58,373
Speaker 3: Sam, let us know if you get an answer on there.

603
00:30:58,373 --> 00:30:59,893
Speaker 3: But thank you very much for giving us buzz. Oh,

604
00:30:59,893 --> 00:31:01,973
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to

605
00:31:02,053 --> 00:31:04,573
Speaker 3: cool love to get your thoughts on the roadside drug teasing?

606
00:31:04,933 --> 00:31:08,093
Speaker 3: Thank you mate. It is sixteen to two.

607
00:31:08,573 --> 00:31:12,053
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

608
00:31:12,293 --> 00:31:16,733
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons used talks, it'd.

609
00:31:16,653 --> 00:31:18,893
Speaker 3: Be thirteen to two. So we are talking about the

610
00:31:18,973 --> 00:31:21,733
Speaker 3: roadside drug testing that will come into play next year

611
00:31:21,893 --> 00:31:24,613
Speaker 3: for the whole of New Zealand. Do you worry how

612
00:31:24,613 --> 00:31:27,573
Speaker 3: this will feature if you're on medicinal cannabis prescription drugs?

613
00:31:27,573 --> 00:31:29,173
Speaker 3: So eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that

614
00:31:29,253 --> 00:31:29,733
Speaker 3: number to call.

615
00:31:30,253 --> 00:31:32,653
Speaker 2: Let's text to ccs. So what about tramadol or they

616
00:31:32,653 --> 00:31:34,933
Speaker 2: test for that? So we don't know. So there's the

617
00:31:35,013 --> 00:31:37,173
Speaker 2: four main ones that they test when they pull you

618
00:31:37,293 --> 00:31:39,293
Speaker 2: over with the saliva. That's the instant ones. But then

619
00:31:39,333 --> 00:31:40,773
Speaker 2: it gets sent to a lab and they test for

620
00:31:40,813 --> 00:31:45,973
Speaker 2: another twenty five. So I believe there's was it marijuana, cocaine?

621
00:31:45,973 --> 00:31:47,773
Speaker 2: What I'm just looking men?

622
00:31:47,813 --> 00:31:49,973
Speaker 3: Fitamine in THHC.

623
00:31:49,493 --> 00:31:52,573
Speaker 2: And THCHC the big animeter. No two of them were

624
00:31:52,573 --> 00:31:54,853
Speaker 2: the same of those four that we seed.

625
00:31:54,693 --> 00:31:55,773
Speaker 3: Right, what one did I miss out?

626
00:31:55,813 --> 00:31:55,893
Speaker 11: Oh?

627
00:31:56,093 --> 00:31:59,173
Speaker 2: DMA yeah dat yeah yeah yeah, So and then they

628
00:31:59,213 --> 00:32:01,133
Speaker 2: take it. Then that goes to the lab and they

629
00:32:01,173 --> 00:32:04,053
Speaker 2: test for another twenty five. I don't know if that's tramadol.

630
00:32:04,333 --> 00:32:07,213
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're also testing for prescription drugs.

631
00:32:07,053 --> 00:32:08,853
Speaker 3: Or like pseudo, right, Efford?

632
00:32:09,093 --> 00:32:10,653
Speaker 2: Is there twenty five I legal drugs?

633
00:32:10,933 --> 00:32:11,213
Speaker 11: Yeah?

634
00:32:11,213 --> 00:32:13,493
Speaker 3: Well I don't know. I messing there is. But what

635
00:32:13,493 --> 00:32:15,613
Speaker 3: do you do you know now that that pseudo was legal?

636
00:32:15,653 --> 00:32:17,493
Speaker 3: Again with your suda fed if you've got a cold

637
00:32:17,653 --> 00:32:20,413
Speaker 3: and it's pretty kick our stuff, you think that would

638
00:32:20,453 --> 00:32:22,893
Speaker 3: probably get picked up under amphetam. It's must do because

639
00:32:22,893 --> 00:32:24,653
Speaker 3: it is, it's effectively speed.

640
00:32:25,293 --> 00:32:28,613
Speaker 2: This is someone that doesn't necessarily get their head around statistics.

641
00:32:28,693 --> 00:32:31,933
Speaker 2: I'm against drunk driving, but sober people kill more people

642
00:32:31,933 --> 00:32:33,973
Speaker 2: on the roads. Yeah, well you hope we're in a

643
00:32:34,053 --> 00:32:37,773
Speaker 2: situation where the vast majority of people on the roads

644
00:32:38,053 --> 00:32:39,093
Speaker 2: are sober.

645
00:32:39,333 --> 00:32:42,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Bruce, how are you mate?

646
00:32:42,973 --> 00:32:45,533
Speaker 10: Yeah? Yeah, good things. Guys just listening listening to this.

647
00:32:45,813 --> 00:32:48,413
Speaker 10: I just want to give the street view and sort

648
00:32:48,413 --> 00:32:53,733
Speaker 10: of drill down a little bit further and just take

649
00:32:53,773 --> 00:32:58,733
Speaker 10: a different view. Now, the police, the men and women

650
00:32:58,813 --> 00:33:01,653
Speaker 10: in the blue and the teachers and nurses are all

651
00:33:01,693 --> 00:33:01,973
Speaker 10: the same.

652
00:33:02,013 --> 00:33:02,693
Speaker 12: They work for a.

653
00:33:02,653 --> 00:33:06,493
Speaker 10: Government that is really under stress, under pressure, and everyone's

654
00:33:06,573 --> 00:33:09,293
Speaker 10: workload is great. You don't hear much from the police

655
00:33:09,333 --> 00:33:14,093
Speaker 10: and all, you know, good on them. But this announcement,

656
00:33:14,893 --> 00:33:17,773
Speaker 10: I think from the people I know, is just going

657
00:33:17,813 --> 00:33:23,133
Speaker 10: to be looking at increasing their workload. That the politicians

658
00:33:23,213 --> 00:33:26,733
Speaker 10: or the executive have they been known since this latest

659
00:33:26,973 --> 00:33:32,053
Speaker 10: shimozzle like to get the publicity of saying they're sort

660
00:33:32,053 --> 00:33:34,773
Speaker 10: of cleaning up the drugs on the street, et cetera, cetera,

661
00:33:34,813 --> 00:33:38,213
Speaker 10: and they're going to test drug drivers and they've come

662
00:33:38,293 --> 00:33:40,893
Speaker 10: up with the statistics that thirty percent of people are

663
00:33:40,933 --> 00:33:45,013
Speaker 10: drug affected. Now now I've heard that that also includes

664
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Speaker 10: prescription drugs. Will goodness me everything or one of us

665
00:33:48,053 --> 00:33:52,653
Speaker 10: has got a prescription drug in our system. If you

666
00:33:52,733 --> 00:33:55,053
Speaker 10: if you use the standard they use in the mining

667
00:33:55,173 --> 00:33:57,893
Speaker 10: in Australia where I've been involved with this drug testing,

668
00:33:59,733 --> 00:34:03,053
Speaker 10: that'll even pick up panidole. It's so sensitive that that

669
00:34:03,173 --> 00:34:07,293
Speaker 10: when you're going out seven days, seven off and you've

670
00:34:07,333 --> 00:34:09,772
Speaker 10: had a panidole in the morning, it'll pick that up

671
00:34:09,773 --> 00:34:11,692
Speaker 10: and you'll fail that drug test. And you've got to

672
00:34:11,733 --> 00:34:15,333
Speaker 10: wait four hours before you can go to the before

673
00:34:15,373 --> 00:34:18,093
Speaker 10: you can go to your your DOGA.

674
00:34:17,613 --> 00:34:21,493
Speaker 2: So that's those a private drug tests. Are those both

675
00:34:21,653 --> 00:34:23,573
Speaker 2: apposed to police ones?

676
00:34:24,493 --> 00:34:26,693
Speaker 10: Yeah, well these are what the mining come is used.

677
00:34:26,773 --> 00:34:31,693
Speaker 10: And you've got all sorts of levels of of drug detection.

678
00:34:31,853 --> 00:34:35,093
Speaker 10: Now I'm looking at the dynamics. I know a lot

679
00:34:35,093 --> 00:34:37,093
Speaker 10: of people in the forest. I've been in the force

680
00:34:37,093 --> 00:34:40,413
Speaker 10: in Australia and on the road. You're doing your breath tests.

681
00:34:40,453 --> 00:34:44,333
Speaker 10: You've got your device, you've got a driver, you wind

682
00:34:44,373 --> 00:34:47,652
Speaker 10: down the window. You know almost automatically whether they've been

683
00:34:47,773 --> 00:34:50,652
Speaker 10: drinking or what's been going on in that vehicle. As

684
00:34:50,653 --> 00:34:53,453
Speaker 10: soon as they open that window, they count.

685
00:34:53,253 --> 00:34:53,933
Speaker 5: To the device.

686
00:34:54,213 --> 00:34:59,573
Speaker 10: You've got to yes, no, okay, off your go drug

687
00:34:59,653 --> 00:35:05,013
Speaker 10: testing to get evidential information. It's it's just a whole

688
00:35:05,053 --> 00:35:09,133
Speaker 10: new area. It's you know, there's a lot of we're involved.

689
00:35:09,133 --> 00:35:12,333
Speaker 10: They've they've got to start now. Instead of its dealing

690
00:35:12,413 --> 00:35:15,133
Speaker 10: with breath through our device where they can give automatic

691
00:35:15,173 --> 00:35:18,773
Speaker 10: digital reading, they've now got to move into the realm

692
00:35:18,813 --> 00:35:24,933
Speaker 10: of gathering fluid samples. And our boys and girls in

693
00:35:25,013 --> 00:35:30,253
Speaker 10: Blue are really stressed and that the actual dynamic involved

694
00:35:30,293 --> 00:35:34,253
Speaker 10: in this. On the ground, there's a lot of involvement

695
00:35:34,293 --> 00:35:36,933
Speaker 10: in it and being able to get enough evidence from

696
00:35:36,933 --> 00:35:40,973
Speaker 10: someone that smoked the joint, taking that to court, presenting

697
00:35:40,973 --> 00:35:45,293
Speaker 10: that to a magistrate, having a smart lawyer for the defendant.

698
00:35:45,333 --> 00:35:47,413
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's why in this case, Bruce, that

699
00:35:48,173 --> 00:35:51,172
Speaker 2: it's more of a fine situation. So if one qualifying drug,

700
00:35:51,213 --> 00:35:53,413
Speaker 2: If one qualifying drug is confirmed, the fine is two

701
00:35:53,453 --> 00:35:56,573
Speaker 2: hundred dollars plus fifty demerit points. Two or more qualifying

702
00:35:56,613 --> 00:35:59,133
Speaker 2: drugs four hundred dollars plus seventy demerit points. So to

703
00:35:59,173 --> 00:36:02,172
Speaker 2: take out the part of it, as you rightly point out,

704
00:36:02,173 --> 00:36:06,093
Speaker 2: clogging the courts and although around that, that's why I

705
00:36:06,093 --> 00:36:09,652
Speaker 2: think they've gone for the fine as opposed to the

706
00:36:09,653 --> 00:36:11,893
Speaker 2: criminal charge.

707
00:36:12,053 --> 00:36:16,813
Speaker 10: The assumption being, of course, and my experiences, you're assuming

708
00:36:16,853 --> 00:36:21,253
Speaker 10: that this person is driving a registered vehicle, has a license,

709
00:36:22,333 --> 00:36:25,853
Speaker 10: has a warrant of fitness, is registered. A lot of

710
00:36:25,893 --> 00:36:29,853
Speaker 10: these people are quite anonymous. They're driving unregistered vehicles, they

711
00:36:29,893 --> 00:36:33,893
Speaker 10: don't have licenses, they get pulled over, they give a

712
00:36:33,933 --> 00:36:36,693
Speaker 10: false address, they're virtually impossible to track.

713
00:36:37,333 --> 00:36:39,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean there'll be all those problems yep.

714
00:36:39,973 --> 00:36:43,213
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Hence the trill period in Wellington next month. But

715
00:36:43,373 --> 00:36:44,813
Speaker 3: can you get your views. So e one hundred and

716
00:36:44,813 --> 00:36:47,133
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number. Call eight tow too.

717
00:36:47,373 --> 00:36:48,493
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for your call.

718
00:36:48,373 --> 00:36:52,813
Speaker 1: Bruce, Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on Oh,

719
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Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heathen Tylor Adams

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Speaker 1: Afternoons News Talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be very good afternoon to you. A few texts

722
00:37:00,653 --> 00:37:04,093
Speaker 3: going into the news on this roadside drug testing operation

723
00:37:04,093 --> 00:37:05,333
Speaker 3: they're going to bring in next year.

724
00:37:06,293 --> 00:37:08,933
Speaker 2: So some people asking whether it is going to be

725
00:37:09,013 --> 00:37:11,573
Speaker 2: prescription drugs in the So there's four that is tested

726
00:37:11,573 --> 00:37:13,533
Speaker 2: immediately in the saliva and then it can be sent

727
00:37:13,573 --> 00:37:15,373
Speaker 2: off to a lab and another twenty five are looked at.

728
00:37:15,373 --> 00:37:17,933
Speaker 2: This text is saying yes, tramadol, codin, benzos and other

729
00:37:17,933 --> 00:37:21,933
Speaker 2: preciption MUDs, meds that are known to cause impairment will

730
00:37:21,933 --> 00:37:22,453
Speaker 2: be looked for.

731
00:37:22,813 --> 00:37:24,652
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean that's a biggie. I know a lot

732
00:37:24,693 --> 00:37:28,013
Speaker 3: of people use Benzo's for anxiety, so that's going to

733
00:37:28,053 --> 00:37:29,053
Speaker 3: pick up a lot more people.

734
00:37:31,693 --> 00:37:34,333
Speaker 2: Love how some people will try very hard to defend

735
00:37:34,333 --> 00:37:37,013
Speaker 2: a legal drug use. Sorry, it does affect brain function.

736
00:37:37,133 --> 00:37:39,613
Speaker 2: As that guest said, we should have a mind change

737
00:37:39,613 --> 00:37:42,133
Speaker 2: from I think I'm impaired, so I shouldn't drive versus

738
00:37:42,133 --> 00:37:44,973
Speaker 2: when did I have my last joint slash drength. Yeah,

739
00:37:44,973 --> 00:37:46,213
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of ways you can be

740
00:37:46,253 --> 00:37:49,453
Speaker 2: impaired that don't involve drugs and alcohol. Yep, yeah, lack

741
00:37:49,493 --> 00:37:49,853
Speaker 2: of sleep.

742
00:37:49,973 --> 00:37:53,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a biggie, but that just massive.

743
00:37:52,973 --> 00:37:53,973
Speaker 2: Barney with the missus.

744
00:37:54,253 --> 00:37:54,493
Speaker 3: Yep.

745
00:37:55,333 --> 00:37:56,893
Speaker 2: You head out on the road because of it, a

746
00:37:56,933 --> 00:37:58,213
Speaker 2: road rate, screaming rage.

747
00:37:58,253 --> 00:38:00,652
Speaker 3: Exactly right. We're going to keep this going because we've

748
00:38:00,693 --> 00:38:02,453
Speaker 3: got full boards at the moment. If you can't get through,

749
00:38:02,533 --> 00:38:05,013
Speaker 3: keep trying. Oh, eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty. If

750
00:38:05,013 --> 00:38:07,653
Speaker 3: you prefer to send a teacher more than welcome, of course,

751
00:38:07,933 --> 00:38:10,573
Speaker 3: nine to two is that number. But really, can you

752
00:38:10,573 --> 00:38:13,213
Speaker 3: get your thoughts about the roadside drug testing? Are you

753
00:38:13,333 --> 00:38:15,652
Speaker 3: worried you may get caught up in it even if

754
00:38:15,653 --> 00:38:19,573
Speaker 3: you are using drugs for pure legitimate purposes? A new

755
00:38:19,613 --> 00:38:21,812
Speaker 3: sport and we're the fast approaching great have your company

756
00:38:21,933 --> 00:38:24,212
Speaker 3: is always hope you're having a great Wednesday afternoon. You're

757
00:38:24,213 --> 00:38:26,573
Speaker 3: listening to Matt and Tyler. Stay right here. We will

758
00:38:26,573 --> 00:38:27,853
Speaker 3: be back very shortly.

759
00:38:34,173 --> 00:38:37,973
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathan Taylor Adams

760
00:38:38,013 --> 00:38:40,172
Speaker 1: Afternoons News Talk zid Bey.

761
00:38:41,413 --> 00:38:44,172
Speaker 3: Very good afternoons. You welcome back into the program. It

762
00:38:44,253 --> 00:38:47,613
Speaker 3: is six pass two. Great to have your company as

763
00:38:47,733 --> 00:38:50,893
Speaker 3: always this afternoon. All right. We're carrying on with the

764
00:38:50,933 --> 00:38:54,533
Speaker 3: discussion we're having about this new roadside drug testing regime

765
00:38:54,533 --> 00:38:56,013
Speaker 3: that will be rolled out. So to bring you back

766
00:38:56,093 --> 00:38:58,573
Speaker 3: up to speed police we'll be able to stop any

767
00:38:58,973 --> 00:39:01,133
Speaker 3: vehicle at any time to screen the driver for the

768
00:39:01,133 --> 00:39:04,333
Speaker 3: presence of drugs. The first roadside screening test will be

769
00:39:04,373 --> 00:39:07,093
Speaker 3: a quick tongue swipe, taking just a few minutes. The

770
00:39:07,133 --> 00:39:09,493
Speaker 3: government says. If the test is positive, officers will take

771
00:39:09,573 --> 00:39:12,653
Speaker 3: us a live example for the lab where while the

772
00:39:12,733 --> 00:39:15,853
Speaker 3: roadside device to text the four key drugs that we mentioned,

773
00:39:16,053 --> 00:39:20,413
Speaker 3: that is meth and phetamine, THHC, cocaine and ecstasy. The

774
00:39:20,493 --> 00:39:23,213
Speaker 3: lab can test for up to twenty five substances listed

775
00:39:23,333 --> 00:39:25,933
Speaker 3: in the Drugs Act. So do you feel that you

776
00:39:26,013 --> 00:39:27,573
Speaker 3: may be caught up in this if you are on

777
00:39:27,653 --> 00:39:30,732
Speaker 3: prescription medicines or medicinal cannabis. So eight hundred and eighty

778
00:39:30,733 --> 00:39:32,453
Speaker 3: ten eighty Craig, welcome to the show.

779
00:39:33,533 --> 00:39:37,253
Speaker 13: Hey, yeah, look I've learned a lot. Actually, it's been

780
00:39:37,293 --> 00:39:41,293
Speaker 13: really interesting. I kind of came into this with a

781
00:39:41,493 --> 00:39:44,813
Speaker 13: view of this shouldn't be anybody appeared on the road,

782
00:39:46,253 --> 00:39:48,933
Speaker 13: and then you sort of listen to it and it's like, Okay,

783
00:39:49,453 --> 00:39:53,172
Speaker 13: I can sort of understand how peven could get caught

784
00:39:53,253 --> 00:39:55,253
Speaker 13: up in this, but are pretty innocent.

785
00:39:57,853 --> 00:40:01,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yes, what particular people do you think fall into

786
00:40:01,413 --> 00:40:02,252
Speaker 2: that category.

787
00:40:01,973 --> 00:40:06,413
Speaker 13: Craig, Probably people that are taken prescription drugs, But also,

788
00:40:06,853 --> 00:40:11,973
Speaker 13: like I, we can construc I've got a lots of

789
00:40:12,013 --> 00:40:14,493
Speaker 13: guys who live with smoke. I have a joint occasion

790
00:40:14,533 --> 00:40:16,333
Speaker 13: for myself, so I'm not going to put my hand

791
00:40:16,373 --> 00:40:20,933
Speaker 13: up and go I'm a purist, but those guys tend

792
00:40:20,893 --> 00:40:24,013
Speaker 13: to have a smoke after work, whereas the next day,

793
00:40:24,093 --> 00:40:29,613
Speaker 13: if a drug tested, they will fail. But we allow

794
00:40:29,693 --> 00:40:32,732
Speaker 13: alcohol where a guy can drink all bloody night and

795
00:40:33,773 --> 00:40:37,013
Speaker 13: stagger on a building site with a massive hangover. And

796
00:40:37,053 --> 00:40:41,093
Speaker 13: it's the same kind of thinking that you just transferred

797
00:40:41,093 --> 00:40:43,813
Speaker 13: to the road. So you know, you've got guys that

798
00:40:44,333 --> 00:40:46,613
Speaker 13: had a joint the night before, You've got guys that

799
00:40:46,653 --> 00:40:49,333
Speaker 13: were drinking night before. I'd rather have people on the

800
00:40:49,413 --> 00:40:54,373
Speaker 13: road that smoke weed the night before than we're drinking

801
00:40:54,373 --> 00:40:55,373
Speaker 13: heavily the night before.

802
00:40:56,773 --> 00:40:59,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that is where it falls over though,

803
00:40:59,173 --> 00:41:01,813
Speaker 3: isn't it, Craig. It seems to come back to medicinal

804
00:41:01,813 --> 00:41:03,733
Speaker 3: cannabis that, as we know it stays in the system

805
00:41:03,733 --> 00:41:06,653
Speaker 3: a lot longer because of all how the drug operates,

806
00:41:07,213 --> 00:41:09,772
Speaker 3: whereas alcohol is usually out of your system within twenty

807
00:41:09,773 --> 00:41:12,133
Speaker 3: four hours, depending on how big a night you've had,

808
00:41:12,173 --> 00:41:15,973
Speaker 3: of course. But yeah, for someone who has a joint

809
00:41:16,213 --> 00:41:19,973
Speaker 3: or has some medicinal cannabis for pain, that's still going

810
00:41:20,053 --> 00:41:21,093
Speaker 3: to be in their system even.

811
00:41:20,973 --> 00:41:23,973
Speaker 2: Though I can stay in your saliva for up to

812
00:41:23,973 --> 00:41:24,973
Speaker 2: seventy two hours.

813
00:41:25,573 --> 00:41:27,813
Speaker 3: Alcohol again, no marijuana, Yeah, yeah.

814
00:41:27,813 --> 00:41:31,732
Speaker 2: But I guess if someone has a smoke after work, right,

815
00:41:31,853 --> 00:41:36,692
Speaker 2: and then they've gone to bed, they've slept, and then

816
00:41:36,733 --> 00:41:39,652
Speaker 2: there's still they're still found to be over whatever limit

817
00:41:39,653 --> 00:41:43,173
Speaker 2: in the saliva test. But someone that's found to be

818
00:41:43,253 --> 00:41:45,093
Speaker 2: over the alcohol limit when they're driving to work. And

819
00:41:45,133 --> 00:41:47,692
Speaker 2: I've had a friend who stayed the night and then

820
00:41:47,773 --> 00:41:52,773
Speaker 2: on the way home she was she was found she

821
00:41:52,813 --> 00:41:55,172
Speaker 2: got busted on the way home. Yep, So she'd done

822
00:41:55,173 --> 00:41:57,933
Speaker 2: the right thing and stayed the night. Not like that tyler.

823
00:41:58,373 --> 00:42:02,093
Speaker 2: She was she was everyone was over for a barbecue, Okay, Yeah, okay, right,

824
00:42:02,093 --> 00:42:04,373
Speaker 2: she didn't stay over the night with me, Okay, fair enough,

825
00:42:04,693 --> 00:42:06,493
Speaker 2: She just stayed over there just to do it, to clarify,

826
00:42:06,693 --> 00:42:08,692
Speaker 2: just to just do the right thing. And then when

827
00:42:08,733 --> 00:42:10,613
Speaker 2: she was driving home, she got she got pulled over

828
00:42:10,653 --> 00:42:12,652
Speaker 2: and she had drank for hours and hours and hours

829
00:42:12,693 --> 00:42:16,252
Speaker 2: and hours how and ouns but was well over the limit. Yeah,

830
00:42:16,733 --> 00:42:18,893
Speaker 2: but I think that she would have been if she

831
00:42:18,933 --> 00:42:21,173
Speaker 2: had that much alcohol system, she would have been impaired,

832
00:42:21,733 --> 00:42:26,812
Speaker 2: whereas someone that's smoked marijuana ten hours ago or whatever

833
00:42:26,853 --> 00:42:28,893
Speaker 2: would not be impaired. If you even if you found

834
00:42:28,933 --> 00:42:29,692
Speaker 2: it in the system, if.

835
00:42:29,613 --> 00:42:30,973
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying, Yeah, the high's out of

836
00:42:30,973 --> 00:42:33,053
Speaker 3: your system. You're no longer feeling that high in the

837
00:42:33,093 --> 00:42:36,053
Speaker 3: buzz and that the what what cannabis does to you.

838
00:42:36,213 --> 00:42:39,652
Speaker 2: So that's that's what the Drug Foundation is saying, isn't it.

839
00:42:39,653 --> 00:42:44,013
Speaker 2: It's it's testing not for impairment, just for presents the

840
00:42:44,053 --> 00:42:48,213
Speaker 2: presence of cannabis and your system, not the impairment from it.

841
00:42:48,773 --> 00:42:50,893
Speaker 2: So that is that that is a potential problem. But

842
00:42:51,013 --> 00:42:53,293
Speaker 2: would you agree, Craig that you don't want impaired people

843
00:42:53,333 --> 00:42:53,732
Speaker 2: on the road.

844
00:42:54,693 --> 00:42:54,893
Speaker 5: Yeah.

845
00:42:54,933 --> 00:42:57,933
Speaker 13: Absolutely, And look, I'd actually like to put my hand

846
00:42:57,973 --> 00:42:59,613
Speaker 13: up a little bit here. I was sort of a

847
00:42:59,653 --> 00:43:05,533
Speaker 13: string driver. Yeah, so I'm not putting out a lily

848
00:43:05,573 --> 00:43:10,933
Speaker 13: white deal myself. It took me a long time to

849
00:43:11,013 --> 00:43:13,373
Speaker 13: wake up for the fact that, dude, you just can't

850
00:43:13,413 --> 00:43:17,453
Speaker 13: be It's not it's not about how you feel. It's like,

851
00:43:17,653 --> 00:43:19,613
Speaker 13: you know, okay, yeah, I feel like I can drive.

852
00:43:20,333 --> 00:43:24,333
Speaker 13: It's about you when you start really getting hit around things.

853
00:43:24,613 --> 00:43:28,893
Speaker 13: It's much deeper than that. And I like to have

854
00:43:28,973 --> 00:43:32,733
Speaker 13: a smoke, you know, As I've said occasionally with the boys,

855
00:43:32,733 --> 00:43:36,133
Speaker 13: it's like, yeah, yeah, I'll say what I will not drive,

856
00:43:36,973 --> 00:43:41,053
Speaker 13: absolutely not, And I think that's different for different people.

857
00:43:41,773 --> 00:43:44,813
Speaker 13: You know, this is where things get a bit sort

858
00:43:44,813 --> 00:43:49,173
Speaker 13: of cross. Like if I have a joint, I definitely

859
00:43:49,213 --> 00:43:52,533
Speaker 13: feel very stone because I don't smoke very often. And

860
00:43:52,573 --> 00:43:54,853
Speaker 13: then I'm just really happy to just chill out wherever

861
00:43:54,893 --> 00:43:58,893
Speaker 13: I am, or you know, just have a relaxing time.

862
00:43:59,533 --> 00:44:03,133
Speaker 13: But I have brothers who like in there, you know,

863
00:44:03,453 --> 00:44:07,813
Speaker 13: we're all gen Xes, and they'll have a smoke and

864
00:44:07,853 --> 00:44:09,973
Speaker 13: go for a and drive and no problem at all

865
00:44:09,973 --> 00:44:14,053
Speaker 13: that they don't feel concerned about what they're doing and

866
00:44:14,413 --> 00:44:18,533
Speaker 13: both very good drivers, like they don't have a that yeah,

867
00:44:18,813 --> 00:44:21,893
Speaker 13: they have zero history of bad driving.

868
00:44:22,773 --> 00:44:25,732
Speaker 2: So hey, when you say, when you say, Craig that

869
00:44:25,973 --> 00:44:28,493
Speaker 2: you were a sit of aus drink driver, did you

870
00:44:28,573 --> 00:44:31,652
Speaker 2: get pinged a lot? We were sort of a string driver,

871
00:44:31,733 --> 00:44:34,253
Speaker 2: that you were drinking and driving a lot, or and

872
00:44:34,253 --> 00:44:38,373
Speaker 2: that you had been pulled over and charged multiple times.

873
00:44:38,973 --> 00:44:42,813
Speaker 13: Probably for the first twenty years, like you know, being Eugene,

874
00:44:43,293 --> 00:44:46,933
Speaker 13: we were. I was working driving at fifteen, you know,

875
00:44:48,013 --> 00:44:50,093
Speaker 13: having beers with the boys at fifteen years old on

876
00:44:50,133 --> 00:44:53,732
Speaker 13: building site. So I probably drove for twenty years before

877
00:44:53,733 --> 00:44:58,413
Speaker 13: I got the d C. Yeah, but that was just

878
00:44:58,613 --> 00:45:03,172
Speaker 13: that was our era. That was nobody You didn't look

879
00:45:03,173 --> 00:45:06,053
Speaker 13: at people that were drink driving and sort of thinking

880
00:45:06,053 --> 00:45:07,493
Speaker 13: about taking their keys off them.

881
00:45:08,373 --> 00:45:08,533
Speaker 14: Yeah.

882
00:45:08,533 --> 00:45:10,053
Speaker 2: It was a different time, wasn't it.

883
00:45:10,773 --> 00:45:12,013
Speaker 13: It was a very different time.

884
00:45:12,093 --> 00:45:13,453
Speaker 2: And do you think do you think it's good that

885
00:45:13,453 --> 00:45:16,573
Speaker 2: that message has got through? And because because I see

886
00:45:16,573 --> 00:45:19,053
Speaker 2: it now, that day I could not see, I could

887
00:45:19,093 --> 00:45:22,813
Speaker 2: not see my kids would never even consider drink driving.

888
00:45:23,253 --> 00:45:26,812
Speaker 2: But when when I was their age, it was quite

889
00:45:26,813 --> 00:45:27,373
Speaker 2: it was common.

890
00:45:28,413 --> 00:45:32,253
Speaker 13: It was very common. And that's so my son's studying

891
00:45:32,253 --> 00:45:38,533
Speaker 13: to be a doctor made they're really clue to young people,

892
00:45:38,573 --> 00:45:42,573
Speaker 13: you know, Yeah, and all their mates like, yeah, absolutely,

893
00:45:42,693 --> 00:45:44,693
Speaker 13: they'll have a joint with me, they'll have a couple

894
00:45:44,693 --> 00:45:51,293
Speaker 13: of years, but nobody drives, and absolutely adamant about that.

895
00:45:51,773 --> 00:45:54,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good thing that's changed. But you know,

896
00:45:54,293 --> 00:45:56,933
Speaker 3: it wasn't that long ago, Craig that the limit got

897
00:45:56,973 --> 00:46:00,493
Speaker 3: reduced from four hundred to two fifty. And hopefully that's

898
00:46:00,533 --> 00:46:02,652
Speaker 3: had some somewhat of an impact. But you look back

899
00:46:02,653 --> 00:46:04,973
Speaker 3: at those days of four hundred, that's a fear whack

900
00:46:05,013 --> 00:46:07,333
Speaker 3: of alcohol in your system. And then if you're going

901
00:46:07,333 --> 00:46:09,013
Speaker 3: a little bit higher than that because you've had one

902
00:46:09,013 --> 00:46:11,493
Speaker 3: too many beers. As you say, it was a different time,

903
00:46:11,533 --> 00:46:12,253
Speaker 3: different era.

904
00:46:13,413 --> 00:46:16,533
Speaker 13: Absolutely, but you know we were all brought up with that.

905
00:46:16,773 --> 00:46:18,893
Speaker 13: Like you know, you'd go down to the Workmen's Club

906
00:46:18,893 --> 00:46:23,772
Speaker 13: all the rs A with your grandparents. That'd be big

907
00:46:23,853 --> 00:46:27,453
Speaker 13: five six ye v eight my CDs drink drinking a

908
00:46:27,453 --> 00:46:31,533
Speaker 13: few beers and then the crew with their mate that was.

909
00:46:33,133 --> 00:46:36,413
Speaker 2: I. I was talking to mate's grandfather once and he

910
00:46:36,573 --> 00:46:39,933
Speaker 2: said he was drunk driving and he rolled his car

911
00:46:40,013 --> 00:46:42,253
Speaker 2: on the roof and this was on the way out

912
00:46:42,293 --> 00:46:45,613
Speaker 2: to Ravensbourne and dun Eden and he rang the police

913
00:46:45,693 --> 00:46:48,053
Speaker 2: so they could come out and put it back up

914
00:46:48,093 --> 00:46:52,093
Speaker 2: for him to push it. There was no fear that

915
00:46:52,133 --> 00:46:54,973
Speaker 2: he was going to get dust done for driving. They

916
00:46:54,973 --> 00:46:57,773
Speaker 2: were like, can you you, guys, I'm pretty person have

917
00:46:57,893 --> 00:46:59,253
Speaker 2: rolled the car. Would you guys be able to come

918
00:46:59,253 --> 00:47:00,613
Speaker 2: out and help me ride it so I can drive

919
00:47:00,653 --> 00:47:02,413
Speaker 2: it home? And they did. They pushed it back up

920
00:47:02,453 --> 00:47:03,813
Speaker 2: from and then he drove it home.

921
00:47:03,893 --> 00:47:04,732
Speaker 3: What a crazy time.

922
00:47:05,213 --> 00:47:05,813
Speaker 13: Absolutely.

923
00:47:06,053 --> 00:47:06,212
Speaker 5: Hey.

924
00:47:06,253 --> 00:47:08,573
Speaker 13: Look, so back in the old days when you're can

925
00:47:08,573 --> 00:47:12,213
Speaker 13: Harbridge had a toll We came on a the Waterview

926
00:47:12,253 --> 00:47:17,732
Speaker 13: on ramps being at a party up and and ends

927
00:47:17,773 --> 00:47:19,853
Speaker 13: up on the western boat Away and oh, we're going

928
00:47:19,893 --> 00:47:23,493
Speaker 13: the wrong direction. Came onto the Waterview on ramp and

929
00:47:23,613 --> 00:47:28,053
Speaker 13: rolled in a little Anglia, little fort Anglia and then

930
00:47:28,133 --> 00:47:30,813
Speaker 13: had to go across the Harbor Bridge to get to

931
00:47:30,853 --> 00:47:33,573
Speaker 13: the north shore. And the guy at the Harvbridge up,

932
00:47:33,613 --> 00:47:37,453
Speaker 13: let's take the window out because we couldn't see properly. Yeah,

933
00:47:37,933 --> 00:47:40,773
Speaker 13: the guy, the toll operator at the Harvorbridge. And that

934
00:47:40,973 --> 00:47:46,013
Speaker 13: was just the mentality, like nobody was terrible. It was jock,

935
00:47:46,853 --> 00:47:48,773
Speaker 13: but there were very few cars on the road and

936
00:47:48,813 --> 00:47:52,493
Speaker 13: it was I guess that's how we managed to survive it.

937
00:47:52,573 --> 00:47:55,333
Speaker 2: But yeah, thank you so much for your call Greig.

938
00:47:55,413 --> 00:47:56,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much taking you in.

939
00:47:57,053 --> 00:48:00,253
Speaker 2: I guess because the thing is like whether there's laws

940
00:48:00,333 --> 00:48:04,373
Speaker 2: on impairment or not, right, what the level of alcohol

941
00:48:04,533 --> 00:48:07,933
Speaker 2: or the level of anything. It's shouldn't the message been

942
00:48:08,493 --> 00:48:12,413
Speaker 2: and never drive and peered in whatever way you are impaired.

943
00:48:12,773 --> 00:48:15,333
Speaker 2: You know, if you're in doubt, you don't. Don't drives

944
00:48:15,613 --> 00:48:18,373
Speaker 2: as opposed to the idea that the government sets a

945
00:48:18,413 --> 00:48:21,692
Speaker 2: liver level and you and you were pushed right up

946
00:48:21,733 --> 00:48:24,773
Speaker 2: to that. You know, if you're impaired, and that includes

947
00:48:25,093 --> 00:48:28,893
Speaker 2: if you haven't slept. Yeah, you know because teak definitely fatigue.

948
00:48:29,093 --> 00:48:31,093
Speaker 2: There's so many other ways you can get appeared that

949
00:48:31,133 --> 00:48:33,973
Speaker 2: the that the police can't pull you over and do

950
00:48:34,013 --> 00:48:36,413
Speaker 2: a saliva test to find out whether you're impaired or not.

951
00:48:36,493 --> 00:48:38,893
Speaker 3: Right, ye ondred percent eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

952
00:48:39,013 --> 00:48:41,253
Speaker 3: is that number to call Love to get your thoughts

953
00:48:41,253 --> 00:48:44,293
Speaker 3: about this new roadside drug testing regime that's getting rolled

954
00:48:44,333 --> 00:48:47,133
Speaker 3: out next year. It is seventeen to two back in.

955
00:48:47,133 --> 00:48:47,613
Speaker 9: A moment.

956
00:48:49,013 --> 00:48:53,373
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon Talk Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons

957
00:48:53,413 --> 00:48:56,613
Speaker 1: call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk said.

958
00:48:56,333 --> 00:48:56,493
Speaker 15: Be.

959
00:48:58,253 --> 00:49:01,293
Speaker 3: Very good afternoons. You it is nineteen past two. So

960
00:49:01,333 --> 00:49:04,292
Speaker 3: we are talking about the roadside drug testing. Of course

961
00:49:04,333 --> 00:49:06,453
Speaker 3: it's been announced that will be rolled out rolled out

962
00:49:06,533 --> 00:49:07,573
Speaker 3: nationwide from next year.

963
00:49:08,533 --> 00:49:11,773
Speaker 2: Asks if the drug test is just for presents of drugs,

964
00:49:11,773 --> 00:49:13,732
Speaker 2: then the alcohol test needs to be the same. Can't

965
00:49:13,733 --> 00:49:16,613
Speaker 2: have two different systems operating side by side, both impairment

966
00:49:16,693 --> 00:49:19,853
Speaker 2: or both just use So no for presents. Well, I

967
00:49:19,893 --> 00:49:24,133
Speaker 2: mean when you when you breath test, right, that just

968
00:49:24,173 --> 00:49:26,813
Speaker 2: gives you the percentage of alcohol the blood doesn't know

969
00:49:26,853 --> 00:49:29,173
Speaker 2: how impaired you are by alcohol, because that could be

970
00:49:29,213 --> 00:49:32,053
Speaker 2: a physiological thing. But we come up with a number, yes,

971
00:49:32,693 --> 00:49:35,253
Speaker 2: we think that, well, the government's come up with a

972
00:49:35,293 --> 00:49:38,573
Speaker 2: number legislator that if you're over that you're considered too

973
00:49:38,613 --> 00:49:40,533
Speaker 2: drunk to drive. Some people want it lower, some people

974
00:49:40,533 --> 00:49:44,013
Speaker 2: want it higher. Yeah, but there's definitely people that claim

975
00:49:44,053 --> 00:49:46,253
Speaker 2: that they are less appeered on more alcohol or more

976
00:49:46,293 --> 00:49:47,813
Speaker 2: impaired on less alcohol.

977
00:49:47,893 --> 00:49:49,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, And of other science is behind that, you know,

978
00:49:49,893 --> 00:49:53,773
Speaker 3: Like we're male and female. It's well recognized that males

979
00:49:53,813 --> 00:49:57,333
Speaker 3: process alcohol a lot quicker or slower whatever way it goes,

980
00:49:57,373 --> 00:50:00,093
Speaker 3: but they can process more alcohol than woman can. In

981
00:50:00,173 --> 00:50:02,573
Speaker 3: terms of your mobility skills. That is just the nature

982
00:50:02,613 --> 00:50:04,573
Speaker 3: of it. If you're bigger, a bigger person, then you

983
00:50:04,613 --> 00:50:06,973
Speaker 3: can have more alcohol as someone else. There's a lot

984
00:50:07,013 --> 00:50:07,613
Speaker 3: of size.

985
00:50:07,933 --> 00:50:10,773
Speaker 2: Is that a even a few of the same body mass?

986
00:50:11,293 --> 00:50:13,773
Speaker 3: I believe it is, really I will double check that,

987
00:50:13,893 --> 00:50:16,173
Speaker 3: but I believe there is a big difference between females

988
00:50:16,173 --> 00:50:19,533
Speaker 3: and males and how much alcohol you can consume compared

989
00:50:19,573 --> 00:50:23,813
Speaker 3: to how immobilized or how that affects your mobility motor skills.

990
00:50:23,973 --> 00:50:26,213
Speaker 2: I don't think it's the case with Tracy and I

991
00:50:26,253 --> 00:50:28,533
Speaker 2: will be out on a big night and she's absolutely

992
00:50:28,733 --> 00:50:32,373
Speaker 2: onto it and sweet airs and she's she's lots more.

993
00:50:32,253 --> 00:50:34,933
Speaker 3: Than you are. A cheap date. Thought, let's get to

994
00:50:34,973 --> 00:50:40,613
Speaker 3: Craig before we get to play some messages mates, I'd.

995
00:50:40,373 --> 00:50:42,333
Speaker 9: Be on the crap and the crap now did I'm

996
00:50:42,373 --> 00:50:46,853
Speaker 9: on that jew Amne for weight loss, and that's basically

997
00:50:47,013 --> 00:50:50,213
Speaker 9: speed from the doctors. Now. I've been on for six weeks,

998
00:50:50,773 --> 00:50:56,253
Speaker 9: driving the tuck every day, and if anything sort of

999
00:50:56,813 --> 00:51:01,853
Speaker 9: gives your energy, it makes you pay attention better. I

1000
00:51:01,853 --> 00:51:04,293
Speaker 9: think I'm auld probably a better driver on the Jewoman

1001
00:51:04,333 --> 00:51:04,933
Speaker 9: I am without.

1002
00:51:05,093 --> 00:51:07,573
Speaker 2: Well, that was interesting because I was asking that question

1003
00:51:07,973 --> 00:51:10,293
Speaker 2: of the executive director of the New Zealand Drug Foundation,

1004
00:51:10,373 --> 00:51:13,413
Speaker 2: Sarah helm Before where there is there is different levels

1005
00:51:13,413 --> 00:51:16,733
Speaker 2: of impairment from different drugs, right, So you say that

1006
00:51:16,733 --> 00:51:18,813
Speaker 2: what is it called jura mine? Is that right, Craig?

1007
00:51:19,773 --> 00:51:23,733
Speaker 9: Yeah, And it's basically speed They used to give it

1008
00:51:23,733 --> 00:51:25,333
Speaker 9: to the soldiers in the Vietnam War.

1009
00:51:26,613 --> 00:51:30,413
Speaker 2: Yes, So the same with the ADHD medicine, right, I

1010
00:51:30,413 --> 00:51:33,933
Speaker 2: mean that's that's basically an upper that's basically the equivalent

1011
00:51:34,053 --> 00:51:38,093
Speaker 2: of you know, rittling to people that I don't have.

1012
00:51:38,173 --> 00:51:43,253
Speaker 2: ADHD basically is similar to Class A drugs, like I

1013
00:51:43,293 --> 00:51:46,493
Speaker 2: don't know, some kind of some kind of speed.

1014
00:51:47,093 --> 00:51:53,053
Speaker 9: Another points on your cocaine. I despise me. But you know,

1015
00:51:53,133 --> 00:51:55,093
Speaker 9: there was that eye surgeon that was up on the

1016
00:51:55,173 --> 00:51:58,333
Speaker 9: murder charge that got off, which found not guilty, who

1017
00:51:58,493 --> 00:52:03,933
Speaker 9: had a message, who was using Hey, now he was

1018
00:52:03,973 --> 00:52:07,413
Speaker 9: still operating on people's eyes. He wanted up in court

1019
00:52:07,613 --> 00:52:15,453
Speaker 9: for stuffing up delicate eye surgery. So I think the

1020
00:52:15,493 --> 00:52:21,493
Speaker 9: impairment thing is important because you it's I'm in marijuana.

1021
00:52:21,573 --> 00:52:24,133
Speaker 9: I think slows you down and just chills your out,

1022
00:52:24,253 --> 00:52:27,373
Speaker 9: and nothing was a worry. You know, you probably don't focus,

1023
00:52:27,453 --> 00:52:32,373
Speaker 9: but there's drugs out there that, yeah, I just and

1024
00:52:32,373 --> 00:52:34,933
Speaker 9: then I also wonder who's going to test the test?

1025
00:52:34,733 --> 00:52:37,172
Speaker 9: And you know, we can get tested at any time

1026
00:52:37,293 --> 00:52:40,413
Speaker 9: during work, driving a truck round, the police can pull

1027
00:52:40,453 --> 00:52:42,853
Speaker 9: me over. You know, you can't tell me how the

1028
00:52:42,853 --> 00:52:45,813
Speaker 9: whole police force is not the the odd one that

1029
00:52:46,573 --> 00:52:47,933
Speaker 9: has a bit of fun on the weekend.

1030
00:52:48,853 --> 00:52:50,973
Speaker 2: You say, you're saying we should be allowed to pull up,

1031
00:52:51,333 --> 00:52:53,773
Speaker 2: pull up at a check point and go, okay, you

1032
00:52:53,933 --> 00:52:59,573
Speaker 2: count a team. Now they want to carry guns?

1033
00:52:59,693 --> 00:53:05,093
Speaker 9: Do we want to pay people carrying guns? All I'm

1034
00:53:05,133 --> 00:53:08,293
Speaker 9: saying is you know they're going to make a lot

1035
00:53:08,533 --> 00:53:10,813
Speaker 9: money from it. You know, park outside with them and

1036
00:53:10,933 --> 00:53:12,853
Speaker 9: hinds at the end, you're going to make a fortune.

1037
00:53:13,693 --> 00:53:13,933
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1038
00:53:14,013 --> 00:53:16,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now I think if you call Craig appreciate that.

1039
00:53:16,773 --> 00:53:18,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much. Fair points.

1040
00:53:19,413 --> 00:53:21,013
Speaker 2: Well, well I don't know about that.

1041
00:53:21,053 --> 00:53:23,853
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I don't want to disparage our police force

1042
00:53:23,893 --> 00:53:25,693
Speaker 3: and say that they're all, you know, smoking joints on

1043
00:53:25,693 --> 00:53:26,933
Speaker 3: the weekend. I don't think that's true.

1044
00:53:26,973 --> 00:53:30,933
Speaker 2: Well, no, just the idea that you who test the testers,

1045
00:53:31,613 --> 00:53:33,533
Speaker 2: I think you've got to assume that the police are

1046
00:53:33,533 --> 00:53:36,493
Speaker 2: probably running some kind of testing on on on themselves.

1047
00:53:36,493 --> 00:53:37,013
Speaker 3: I'd say so.

1048
00:53:37,133 --> 00:53:40,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, but look, I'm a bunch of text messages that

1049
00:53:41,013 --> 00:53:44,493
Speaker 2: hassling me. Now, I'm not saying that it's good to

1050
00:53:44,573 --> 00:53:48,292
Speaker 2: be driving on these uppers, you know, the the myth

1051
00:53:48,733 --> 00:53:51,252
Speaker 2: and the cocaine. I'm just saying it's a different thing. Yeah,

1052
00:53:51,253 --> 00:53:53,893
Speaker 2: it's a totally different thing. And we lump all drugs

1053
00:53:53,933 --> 00:53:57,293
Speaker 2: together and there's downers and uppers, and some people use

1054
00:53:57,373 --> 00:53:58,213
Speaker 2: uppers for focus.

1055
00:53:58,373 --> 00:53:58,573
Speaker 13: Right.

1056
00:53:59,253 --> 00:54:01,493
Speaker 2: But having said that, if someone's been up for three

1057
00:54:01,573 --> 00:54:03,853
Speaker 2: days on myth, I do not want them behind the wheel.

1058
00:54:04,093 --> 00:54:06,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's there's a lot of nuance in it.

1059
00:54:06,653 --> 00:54:06,813
Speaker 5: Right.

1060
00:54:06,853 --> 00:54:09,933
Speaker 3: Coming up next we are going to have a chat

1061
00:54:09,933 --> 00:54:13,453
Speaker 3: hopefully with someone who works in drug testing. So that's

1062
00:54:13,453 --> 00:54:16,652
Speaker 3: coming up next. It is twenty five past two. Back

1063
00:54:16,733 --> 00:54:18,853
Speaker 3: very shortly. You're listening to Matt and Tyler. Have you

1064
00:54:18,853 --> 00:54:19,693
Speaker 3: having a good afternoon?

1065
00:54:23,533 --> 00:54:26,893
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1066
00:54:26,893 --> 00:54:28,853
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZB.

1067
00:54:29,533 --> 00:54:32,013
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon you. So we're talking about roadside drug

1068
00:54:32,093 --> 00:54:35,253
Speaker 3: testing and on the line right now is Anne Louise Anderson,

1069
00:54:35,293 --> 00:54:39,133
Speaker 3: who works within the drug testing industry. Very good afternoon

1070
00:54:39,133 --> 00:54:41,693
Speaker 3: to you and Louise good afternoon.

1071
00:54:42,333 --> 00:54:43,493
Speaker 2: And I've got to say this to you, and I

1072
00:54:43,533 --> 00:54:45,013
Speaker 2: might have said this year before, because I think I've

1073
00:54:45,013 --> 00:54:48,293
Speaker 2: talked to you before. But my sister's called Anna Louise

1074
00:54:48,333 --> 00:54:50,053
Speaker 2: as well, and there can't be a lot of Na

1075
00:54:50,093 --> 00:54:50,813
Speaker 2: Luise's around.

1076
00:54:50,853 --> 00:54:53,413
Speaker 5: Beautiful name, she must be wonderful.

1077
00:54:54,013 --> 00:54:56,692
Speaker 2: She is a fantastic human being, my big sister. So

1078
00:54:57,013 --> 00:54:59,973
Speaker 2: I'm very warmly disposed towards all Anna Luises. So it's

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00:55:00,013 --> 00:55:01,493
Speaker 2: great that you've called us.

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00:55:02,013 --> 00:55:04,933
Speaker 3: Oh great, it's a good start at a Luise, right,

1081
00:55:05,573 --> 00:55:08,853
Speaker 3: So let's have a yeah, yeah, exactly. Hey, So there's

1082
00:55:08,853 --> 00:55:12,893
Speaker 3: obviously been a bit of confusional concern, primarily from cannabis

1083
00:55:13,013 --> 00:55:16,013
Speaker 3: users who are using it for medicinal purposes. So when

1084
00:55:16,013 --> 00:55:18,773
Speaker 3: it comes to what we know so far about this

1085
00:55:18,973 --> 00:55:22,453
Speaker 3: roadside drug testing regime, I take it you've you've had

1086
00:55:22,453 --> 00:55:25,013
Speaker 3: a look over what they're proposing here, But is there

1087
00:55:25,453 --> 00:55:27,693
Speaker 3: a cause for concern for some of those people?

1088
00:55:30,053 --> 00:55:33,573
Speaker 16: No, because I don't I believe that the the that

1089
00:55:34,253 --> 00:55:36,813
Speaker 16: it's going to be relying upon the level that's in

1090
00:55:36,973 --> 00:55:40,813
Speaker 16: the secondary sample that they take as to whether someone

1091
00:55:40,893 --> 00:55:41,773
Speaker 16: is prosecuted.

1092
00:55:44,213 --> 00:55:48,053
Speaker 3: Oh, we might have just lost you there, Sorry, you

1093
00:55:48,053 --> 00:55:49,813
Speaker 3: pick up. We just lost you for a bit, and Luise,

1094
00:55:49,893 --> 00:55:52,613
Speaker 3: you just packed back up, carry on, okay.

1095
00:55:52,653 --> 00:55:55,933
Speaker 16: So yeah, it's going to be based upon the level

1096
00:55:55,933 --> 00:55:59,212
Speaker 16: and the secondary sample that they would get stood down

1097
00:55:59,253 --> 00:56:03,733
Speaker 16: from driving when they if they test positive on the

1098
00:56:03,813 --> 00:56:06,773
Speaker 16: road with the initials, with the initial slight or with

1099
00:56:06,853 --> 00:56:10,413
Speaker 16: the second first and the tertiary or the food sample

1100
00:56:10,453 --> 00:56:13,173
Speaker 16: that they give, they would be stood down from driving

1101
00:56:13,253 --> 00:56:17,293
Speaker 16: because it's identifying a risk. Because can I point out

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00:56:17,333 --> 00:56:20,573
Speaker 16: that a drug test is never an impairment test ever?

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00:56:21,293 --> 00:56:25,133
Speaker 2: M Why is that? Why is that? Exactly? Is that

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00:56:25,173 --> 00:56:29,693
Speaker 2: because the different effects you know, on people's physiology from drugs,

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00:56:29,693 --> 00:56:32,213
Speaker 2: so you would never be able to really know how impaired.

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00:56:32,213 --> 00:56:34,453
Speaker 2: Some are worse, Like what does I mean like the

1107
00:56:34,893 --> 00:56:37,813
Speaker 2: walking along, touching the nose and stuff, you know that,

1108
00:56:38,293 --> 00:56:41,293
Speaker 2: you know, walking ladybirdsteps? Whatever? Does that? Does that give

1109
00:56:41,333 --> 00:56:42,653
Speaker 2: you any ex idea?

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00:56:42,973 --> 00:56:46,533
Speaker 16: So that is that is not an impairment test either, walking?

1111
00:56:46,613 --> 00:56:49,453
Speaker 16: You know, like because I've seen some people quite intoxicated

1112
00:56:49,533 --> 00:56:52,653
Speaker 16: able to walk a line and do all sorts of

1113
00:56:52,733 --> 00:56:55,733
Speaker 16: things that would make someone think they're not intoxicated. But

1114
00:56:55,813 --> 00:56:57,813
Speaker 16: if they got put under pressure and had to make

1115
00:56:57,853 --> 00:57:01,213
Speaker 16: an immediate decision, they'd probably make a completely different one

1116
00:57:01,413 --> 00:57:05,013
Speaker 16: when they're under the influence of something or impacted by it.

1117
00:57:05,573 --> 00:57:08,293
Speaker 16: And I mean, I don't like to use the word impairment,

1118
00:57:08,373 --> 00:57:13,533
Speaker 16: but impairment is a quite a complex cognitive reaction time test,

1119
00:57:14,133 --> 00:57:16,733
Speaker 16: and you know a drug test can never be that.

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00:57:17,133 --> 00:57:18,973
Speaker 16: But then are you going to sit down with someone

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00:57:19,133 --> 00:57:20,973
Speaker 16: for an hour on the side of the road and

1122
00:57:21,293 --> 00:57:24,453
Speaker 16: test them to see whether they're cognitively impaired? No, you're not.

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00:57:25,733 --> 00:57:27,613
Speaker 2: Yes, very impredible, So we're really.

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00:57:27,533 --> 00:57:31,013
Speaker 16: Just so the drug test is just proving that risk

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00:57:32,013 --> 00:57:35,093
Speaker 16: to safety and driving and it's and it's well documented.

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00:57:35,133 --> 00:57:38,853
Speaker 16: I mean, everyone that gets prescribed medicinal cannabis is told

1127
00:57:38,933 --> 00:57:42,293
Speaker 16: that it's going to be impairing and that they shouldn't

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Speaker 16: be driving within a certain period of time. And I

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00:57:46,453 --> 00:57:49,213
Speaker 16: would add to that that, you know, if they've not

1130
00:57:49,253 --> 00:57:52,013
Speaker 16: got really good oral hygiene, then they should probably leave

1131
00:57:52,053 --> 00:57:53,373
Speaker 16: it a little bit longer.

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Speaker 3: Right, Okay, you have good to know. So I mean, look,

1133
00:57:57,133 --> 00:58:00,093
Speaker 3: it's quite a it's broad across across most of the

1134
00:58:00,093 --> 00:58:03,533
Speaker 3: illicit substances within the act once it gets to the lab.

1135
00:58:04,093 --> 00:58:06,653
Speaker 3: Is there some concern around that? An luise that it

1136
00:58:06,733 --> 00:58:08,813
Speaker 3: is a broad brush approach and you all know why

1137
00:58:08,853 --> 00:58:10,213
Speaker 3: they're trying to do it because you don't want tom

1138
00:58:10,213 --> 00:58:12,213
Speaker 3: pair drivers on the road, which I think we can

1139
00:58:12,253 --> 00:58:14,573
Speaker 3: all get behind. But when you treat all of those

1140
00:58:15,013 --> 00:58:19,093
Speaker 3: substances the same is that when it starts to get complex.

1141
00:58:21,533 --> 00:58:24,893
Speaker 16: You know, the confermatory process where they're looking at there

1142
00:58:24,933 --> 00:58:27,253
Speaker 16: I think it's fifteen other drugs or something where I'm

1143
00:58:27,293 --> 00:58:29,373
Speaker 16: not quite sure how many, but when they're looking at

1144
00:58:29,653 --> 00:58:33,773
Speaker 16: different other drug classes in the confirmation, I think we

1145
00:58:33,893 --> 00:58:37,333
Speaker 16: have to trust our science to actually be packing up

1146
00:58:37,773 --> 00:58:42,093
Speaker 16: when and at what level a substance is a risk

1147
00:58:42,213 --> 00:58:44,933
Speaker 16: and was a risk. So I think we have to

1148
00:58:44,973 --> 00:58:49,213
Speaker 16: trust it because it's what we've got to work with.

1149
00:58:49,333 --> 00:58:53,333
Speaker 16: And I do think it's it's really great that these

1150
00:58:53,373 --> 00:58:55,373
Speaker 16: are only going to be tested. These other ones are

1151
00:58:55,373 --> 00:58:57,293
Speaker 16: only going to be tested in someone that's giving an

1152
00:58:57,333 --> 00:59:00,533
Speaker 16: initial indication on the preliminary test.

1153
00:59:01,973 --> 00:59:05,253
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, but I don't get there's a

1154
00:59:05,253 --> 00:59:06,933
Speaker 2: text that's coming through. I'm not sure where you're going

1155
00:59:06,933 --> 00:59:09,493
Speaker 2: with this map because I've been discussing this before, but

1156
00:59:09,533 --> 00:59:11,933
Speaker 2: surely you're not happy with people using cocaine myth to

1157
00:59:11,973 --> 00:59:14,013
Speaker 2: be out driving. Goodness, Let's hope we are trying to

1158
00:59:14,093 --> 00:59:17,173
Speaker 2: keep our roads safe. Maybe you're just trying to be provocative,

1159
00:59:17,213 --> 00:59:19,693
Speaker 2: says Joe. No, but the question I'm trying to ask

1160
00:59:19,813 --> 00:59:23,493
Speaker 2: you to the bottom of this is you're treating everything

1161
00:59:23,533 --> 00:59:25,773
Speaker 2: the same. So I think we'd all agree that alcohol

1162
00:59:25,813 --> 00:59:28,733
Speaker 2: is very different from cannabis, but cannabis is quite different

1163
00:59:28,733 --> 00:59:34,973
Speaker 2: from cocaine. So the impairments level or the you know,

1164
00:59:35,413 --> 00:59:39,213
Speaker 2: do we have information on that whether because we understand

1165
00:59:39,213 --> 00:59:43,453
Speaker 2: that cocaine and meth and fetamin has terrible societal effects, right,

1166
00:59:44,173 --> 00:59:47,853
Speaker 2: But is the lumping all these drugs together as one

1167
00:59:47,973 --> 00:59:50,573
Speaker 2: thing when they have very different effects on the brain.

1168
00:59:51,053 --> 00:59:54,933
Speaker 2: Is that helpful or is that confusing? Or you know,

1169
00:59:55,253 --> 00:59:56,813
Speaker 2: you're trying to get what I'm what I'm trying to

1170
00:59:56,813 --> 00:59:59,773
Speaker 2: say handle is I've lost myself halfway through my question yet.

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Speaker 16: Well, actually, it's it's interesting that you say that, you know,

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Speaker 16: cannabis and alcohol are okay, they're you know, not okay,

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01:00:07,573 --> 01:00:10,413
Speaker 16: but you know they're less harmful. And yes, they're both

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01:00:10,453 --> 01:00:13,693
Speaker 16: type C drugs and they're both depressants. They both have

1175
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Speaker 16: the same sort of impact on a person's performance or

1176
01:00:17,613 --> 01:00:20,013
Speaker 16: the live the potential to have the same sort of

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01:00:20,813 --> 01:00:25,253
Speaker 16: impact and risk in someone driving Type A drugs or

1178
01:00:25,293 --> 01:00:29,293
Speaker 16: Class A drugs like your cocaine and your meth amphetamine

1179
01:00:29,613 --> 01:00:33,053
Speaker 16: and heroines for that matter. Yeah, they cause more harm

1180
01:00:33,133 --> 01:00:37,253
Speaker 16: to a person that's taking them, and you know, but

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01:00:37,333 --> 01:00:43,213
Speaker 16: they have the same sort of damaging effects on a

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01:00:43,253 --> 01:00:45,893
Speaker 16: person that can impact their ability to handle a motor

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01:00:45,933 --> 01:00:49,493
Speaker 16: vehicle safely. It's the difference between the met and petamine.

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Speaker 16: Person is probably going to be screaming down the road

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01:00:51,693 --> 01:00:55,933
Speaker 16: of one thousand miles an hour making very poor repecisions,

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Speaker 16: and the person and the cannabis on, the cannabis and

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01:00:58,773 --> 01:01:02,733
Speaker 16: the alcohol is probably going to be driving slowly and

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01:01:02,933 --> 01:01:06,973
Speaker 16: constant trying to concentrate because it does affect people's ability

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01:01:07,013 --> 01:01:11,373
Speaker 16: to concentrate. And you know, and is that as much

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01:01:11,413 --> 01:01:13,773
Speaker 16: of a danger, I would say it is. Have you

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01:01:13,813 --> 01:01:16,333
Speaker 16: ever come around a corner and come across someone that's

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01:01:16,373 --> 01:01:20,213
Speaker 16: just stopped in the middle of the road just as

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Speaker 16: much of a danger.

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01:01:22,213 --> 01:01:24,253
Speaker 2: Well, see, we also have to go back to.

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Speaker 16: What is in the in post mortem from fatalities on

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Speaker 16: our roadside, and I think cannabis does present itself quite

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Speaker 16: frequently in those.

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Speaker 3: And Louise, we're loving having a chat with you because

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Speaker 3: you've got a lot of expertise in this area. Are

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01:01:38,293 --> 01:01:40,173
Speaker 3: you a carenatis whole? We've got the headlines hot on

1201
01:01:40,213 --> 01:01:41,973
Speaker 3: our tail, but we've got a couple more questions for you.

1202
01:01:43,253 --> 01:01:47,213
Speaker 3: Certainly brilliant. We are speaking to Anne Louise Anderson, who

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01:01:47,293 --> 01:01:51,413
Speaker 3: works within the drug testing space. She does have a

1204
01:01:51,453 --> 01:01:54,533
Speaker 3: background in bioscience, business and corporate governance as well, so

1205
01:01:54,573 --> 01:01:56,613
Speaker 3: we're going to pick this pack up very shortly. It

1206
01:01:56,653 --> 01:01:58,253
Speaker 3: is twenty five to three.

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Speaker 1: US talks. There'd be headlines with.

1208
01:02:02,293 --> 01:02:05,413
Speaker 8: Blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble with a blue bubble.

1209
01:02:05,893 --> 01:02:09,733
Speaker 8: The Appeal Courts upheld a high call ruling that COVID

1210
01:02:09,813 --> 01:02:14,293
Speaker 8: face covering orders were lawful, but has slashed courts costs

1211
01:02:14,333 --> 01:02:17,893
Speaker 8: demanded of the person who took the case. An Otago

1212
01:02:18,013 --> 01:02:21,973
Speaker 8: University Public health professor says New Zealand's decline in ratings

1213
01:02:22,093 --> 01:02:28,613
Speaker 8: indexing safeguards against tobacco industry interference reflects factors including our

1214
01:02:28,653 --> 01:02:33,813
Speaker 8: repeal of world leading measures and excise tax reductions. A

1215
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Speaker 8: third man has been charged with murder over the death

1216
01:02:36,293 --> 01:02:39,493
Speaker 8: of Tapuque man Tristan Oaks last month. Are you and

1217
01:02:39,573 --> 01:02:43,333
Speaker 8: court in Todonga today alongside three people charged with burglary

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Speaker 8: State Highway twenty five remains closed south of Fathianga on

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Speaker 8: the Corimantel Peninsula after a crash about ten this morning.

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Speaker 8: Labor claims the government's steam rolling over educators' wishes with

1221
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Speaker 8: a bill passing yesterday that will remove school Board Treaty

1222
01:02:59,173 --> 01:03:03,093
Speaker 8: of Whitungi requirements and force schools to have attendance plans.

1223
01:03:04,173 --> 01:03:07,533
Speaker 8: World dairy production is running hot, which could lead to

1224
01:03:07,733 --> 01:03:11,453
Speaker 8: over supple and weaker prices. Some analysts say you can

1225
01:03:11,493 --> 01:03:14,253
Speaker 8: read more at end, said Herald Premium back to matt

1226
01:03:14,293 --> 01:03:15,333
Speaker 8: Ethan Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Adams, thank you very much, Rayleen. It is twenty one

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Speaker 3: to two three. So we have been discussing the roadside

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01:03:20,493 --> 01:03:22,813
Speaker 3: drug testing that is going to be rolled out nationwide

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Speaker 3: from next year. It's going to start in Wellington next month.

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01:03:25,493 --> 01:03:28,093
Speaker 3: And we were having a chat with Anne Luise Anderson.

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Speaker 3: She works within the drug testing space. She's got a

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Speaker 3: background in bioscience and she's back with us now. Thanks

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01:03:32,733 --> 01:03:34,053
Speaker 3: for hanging on a Louise.

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Speaker 16: That's okay.

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Speaker 3: So just in regards to they're going to effectively roll

1237
01:03:39,293 --> 01:03:41,973
Speaker 3: it out in Wellington first and the assumption there and

1238
01:03:42,013 --> 01:03:44,093
Speaker 3: I've just been having a look at the Minister's press

1239
01:03:44,133 --> 01:03:47,893
Speaker 3: release is effectively that's a chance to iron out any kinks.

1240
01:03:47,933 --> 01:03:51,133
Speaker 3: What do you expect may come out of that first

1241
01:03:51,213 --> 01:03:53,013
Speaker 3: run of it when it does start in Wellington? Are

1242
01:03:53,053 --> 01:03:55,453
Speaker 3: you expecting some fish hooks to pop up in that

1243
01:03:55,493 --> 01:03:56,053
Speaker 3: first round?

1244
01:03:58,933 --> 01:03:59,093
Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 16: I think it's just so they can get around the

1246
01:04:01,493 --> 01:04:06,053
Speaker 16: timing and how they cope with I mean, like anything,

1247
01:04:06,053 --> 01:04:08,133
Speaker 16: you need to have a test bed for it because

1248
01:04:08,773 --> 01:04:14,973
Speaker 16: drug testing is it's not complex, but it requires people

1249
01:04:14,973 --> 01:04:18,173
Speaker 16: to be trained in it and too. Yeah, so I

1250
01:04:18,173 --> 01:04:20,173
Speaker 16: think that's the main reason they were just wanting to

1251
01:04:20,493 --> 01:04:22,293
Speaker 16: have a bit of a test run. I think it's

1252
01:04:22,333 --> 01:04:23,213
Speaker 16: a good idea.

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Speaker 2: Do you know how well it's worked in australiax I've

1254
01:04:25,773 --> 01:04:27,333
Speaker 2: got this text from any boys. Why do we think

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01:04:27,333 --> 01:04:30,093
Speaker 2: New Zealand is different? Ossie? Drug detection works well? Just

1256
01:04:30,133 --> 01:04:32,493
Speaker 2: do as the aussis does. The complexities have all been sorted.

1257
01:04:32,733 --> 01:04:35,013
Speaker 2: Don't know why kiwis want to reinvent things that have

1258
01:04:35,173 --> 01:04:40,213
Speaker 2: been already done offshore. So has it worked well in Australia?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think it has worked well in Australia. I

1260
01:04:44,173 --> 01:04:49,893
Speaker 16: mean I think it's got a place in roads safety definitely,

1261
01:04:50,293 --> 01:04:53,173
Speaker 16: But yeah, New Zealand is a little bit out of

1262
01:04:53,173 --> 01:04:55,933
Speaker 16: the box because we're not testing for just the presence

1263
01:04:55,973 --> 01:04:58,773
Speaker 16: of the drug. We're actually testing for it at the

1264
01:04:58,813 --> 01:05:01,973
Speaker 16: same levels that we test for in the workplace, which

1265
01:05:02,013 --> 01:05:06,173
Speaker 16: is above a certain level, it will be considered positive

1266
01:05:07,293 --> 01:05:10,613
Speaker 16: rather than you know, any presence of it whatsoever. So

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01:05:10,733 --> 01:05:13,893
Speaker 16: I think they are making it more complicated for themselves,

1268
01:05:15,173 --> 01:05:18,253
Speaker 16: the New Zealand Police, and making it more complicated for themselves.

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01:05:18,453 --> 01:05:22,653
Speaker 16: But it's still the same way of reading a drug test.

1270
01:05:22,693 --> 01:05:25,173
Speaker 16: It's either going to be positive or it's going to

1271
01:05:25,173 --> 01:05:25,693
Speaker 16: be negative.

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Speaker 3: So just looking at some of the prescription drugs, and

1273
01:05:29,693 --> 01:05:33,213
Speaker 3: many people have mentioned pseudoethedrin, which is obviously you can

1274
01:05:33,253 --> 01:05:36,453
Speaker 3: buy over the counter now from pharmacies and correct me

1275
01:05:36,453 --> 01:05:39,253
Speaker 3: if I'm wrong, but that is is it effectively amphetamine

1276
01:05:39,293 --> 01:05:41,453
Speaker 3: or it's certainly in the class of amphetamine.

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01:05:42,253 --> 01:05:45,973
Speaker 16: It's in the mess amphetamine or amphetamine type substances yesterday,

1278
01:05:46,013 --> 01:05:48,093
Speaker 16: that's in that classification.

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Speaker 3: So that likely will be picked up and if it

1280
01:05:50,493 --> 01:05:52,573
Speaker 3: gets to the lab then that may be one of

1281
01:05:52,573 --> 01:05:53,453
Speaker 3: the drugs detected.

1282
01:05:55,293 --> 01:05:59,253
Speaker 16: No, it'll be detected on the road side and it

1283
01:05:59,293 --> 01:06:03,933
Speaker 16: will get detected in the confirmation which is done in

1284
01:06:03,973 --> 01:06:06,933
Speaker 16: the laboratory. But I don't know what significance they would

1285
01:06:06,973 --> 01:06:12,133
Speaker 16: give to a pseud a dream that was positive in

1286
01:06:12,173 --> 01:06:15,733
Speaker 16: that particular instance. I mean, in how it works in

1287
01:06:15,853 --> 01:06:18,493
Speaker 16: workplace drug testing, is that sous a dream if it

1288
01:06:18,533 --> 01:06:21,013
Speaker 16: came up, then the person would have to have proof

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Speaker 16: of having it legally dispensed. And if it was then

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Speaker 16: legally dispensed and that proof was given, then they would

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01:06:28,933 --> 01:06:31,653
Speaker 16: look at the level that was in the specimen that

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01:06:31,693 --> 01:06:34,173
Speaker 16: they the person gave at the time of testing, and

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01:06:34,213 --> 01:06:37,653
Speaker 16: they would compare it to what the person is supposed

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01:06:37,693 --> 01:06:40,253
Speaker 16: to be taking, because you know, we do know that

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Speaker 16: people do abuse those as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Louise, it's been great to chat with you.

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Speaker 3: So just a quick final question. Overall, you think this

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Speaker 3: is a good thing and by the looks of it,

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Speaker 3: it looks like it will work effectively.

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Speaker 16: I think I think drug testing or drugs driving testing

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01:06:59,053 --> 01:07:01,933
Speaker 16: is well over due for New Zealand. And Yeah, I

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01:07:01,973 --> 01:07:03,213
Speaker 16: think that it's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: Definitely, really good to get your expertise. Thank you very

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01:07:07,053 --> 01:07:10,453
Speaker 3: much for coming on the show. Great afternoon, it's pleasure.

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Speaker 16: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: That is Anne Louise Anderson, who works within the drug

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01:07:14,373 --> 01:07:16,573
Speaker 3: testing industry and has a background in bioscience.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because your name is Alouise. My elder sister's

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01:07:18,813 --> 01:07:21,293
Speaker 2: names Enloes. My other two sisters are called Imogen and Catherine,

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01:07:21,293 --> 01:07:23,213
Speaker 2: and I kept on wanting to call it Imagine or Catherine.

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01:07:23,253 --> 01:07:24,413
Speaker 3: You did, yeah, yeah.

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01:07:25,453 --> 01:07:27,773
Speaker 2: In the break, I said, what question are you're going

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01:07:27,853 --> 01:07:30,853
Speaker 2: to ask Imagen after the news? And you were like,

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01:07:30,853 --> 01:07:32,453
Speaker 2: who's Who's Imagen? My sister?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:07:33,093 --> 01:07:36,453
Speaker 2: Is your middle sister, but no, Imagine, it's my younger sister, right,

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01:07:36,573 --> 01:07:40,893
Speaker 2: Catherine's my middle sister, yeah, and Anoz is my eldest sister.

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Speaker 3: All beautiful names, great New Zealander. Yeah, great news.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic people. But that wasn't any of them?

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01:07:45,333 --> 01:07:47,373
Speaker 3: No, no, not a family member.

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01:07:47,173 --> 01:07:49,733
Speaker 2: No, but just not just strangely had the same name

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Speaker 2: and Luise, and you don't You don't meet a lot

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01:07:51,893 --> 01:07:53,413
Speaker 2: of en Luise's in your time, do you know?

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Speaker 3: You certainly don't.

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Speaker 11: Right?

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01:07:55,613 --> 01:07:57,733
Speaker 3: Can you get your thoughts on what Anne Louise had

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01:07:57,813 --> 01:07:58,253
Speaker 3: to say?

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Speaker 2: My husband is a long term cannabis user, says this text.

1329
01:08:01,253 --> 01:08:04,933
Speaker 2: He works hard, doesn't drink, and he is a great

1330
01:08:05,013 --> 01:08:08,293
Speaker 2: husband and father. My ex husband of twenty five years

1331
01:08:08,453 --> 01:08:10,893
Speaker 2: as a functioning alcoholic, I know which husband has given

1332
01:08:10,933 --> 01:08:14,013
Speaker 2: me a happiest, safer life. My concern is the time

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01:08:14,053 --> 01:08:16,773
Speaker 2: delay between smoking cannabis and testing positive. I read it

1334
01:08:16,813 --> 01:08:19,012
Speaker 2: was up to three days, which is a little ridiculous.

1335
01:08:19,053 --> 01:08:21,773
Speaker 2: Says within a twelve hours, depending on the amount of

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01:08:21,973 --> 01:08:24,893
Speaker 2: and length of time indulging, he would have no impairment.

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01:08:25,093 --> 01:08:27,452
Speaker 2: Although he's a long term regular user. He has no

1338
01:08:27,572 --> 01:08:31,972
Speaker 2: time for impaired drivers. That's from Wendy. Yeah, I mean

1339
01:08:32,412 --> 01:08:34,652
Speaker 2: up to seventy two days. The cannabis can stay in

1340
01:08:34,652 --> 01:08:37,333
Speaker 2: your system and be detected. Yeah, but you would assume

1341
01:08:37,372 --> 01:08:40,012
Speaker 2: that after three days, since you last had a PAT

1342
01:08:40,093 --> 01:08:42,572
Speaker 2: or two, you're probably not as not that impaired, Yeah,

1343
01:08:42,893 --> 01:08:43,692
Speaker 2: at all impeered.

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01:08:43,933 --> 01:08:46,333
Speaker 3: It is sixteen to three. But taking more of your

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01:08:46,333 --> 01:08:47,973
Speaker 3: calls on oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and

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01:08:47,973 --> 01:08:49,972
Speaker 3: the text number nine two nine to two.

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01:08:51,013 --> 01:08:54,572
Speaker 1: Matdeath Taylor Adams taking your calls on oh, eight hundred

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01:08:54,612 --> 01:08:57,212
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty it's mad Heath and Tyler Adams

1349
01:08:57,253 --> 01:08:58,652
Speaker 1: afternoons news talks.

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01:08:58,652 --> 01:09:01,253
Speaker 3: They'd be afternoons. So so many tikes have come through

1351
01:09:01,253 --> 01:09:04,012
Speaker 3: on nine two nine two about this roadside drug testing

1352
01:09:04,053 --> 01:09:05,572
Speaker 3: that's coming into effect from next.

1353
01:09:05,412 --> 01:09:08,053
Speaker 2: Year, Neil says, don't you just laugh? All the munters

1354
01:09:08,093 --> 01:09:10,092
Speaker 2: just to find their ability to drive under the influence

1355
01:09:10,133 --> 01:09:12,532
Speaker 2: of drugs based on whether they think they're impeered or not.

1356
01:09:13,053 --> 01:09:15,732
Speaker 2: As the same question of ask the same question of

1357
01:09:15,732 --> 01:09:18,372
Speaker 2: your airline pilot or surgeon. Happy for them to do

1358
01:09:18,412 --> 01:09:20,772
Speaker 2: their job with drugs in their system? I think, not

1359
01:09:20,893 --> 01:09:22,932
Speaker 2: happy to share the road with drug and peered drivers.

1360
01:09:23,093 --> 01:09:26,213
Speaker 2: It's about time we remove the drug munters from our roads.

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01:09:26,253 --> 01:09:29,333
Speaker 2: Regard as Neil, Yeah, I mean, you definitely don't want

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01:09:29,333 --> 01:09:31,612
Speaker 2: empeer drivers on the road. No, But I guess the

1363
01:09:31,812 --> 01:09:36,613
Speaker 2: complications around this are people that are taking legal marijuana

1364
01:09:37,572 --> 01:09:41,133
Speaker 2: medical marijuana but aren't impaired yep, because of when they

1365
01:09:41,173 --> 01:09:43,492
Speaker 2: took it, and that staying their system for up to

1366
01:09:43,532 --> 01:09:47,012
Speaker 2: three days and the fact that maybe they can find

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01:09:47,053 --> 01:09:49,732
Speaker 2: that out later, but they've already been pinged with by

1368
01:09:49,853 --> 01:09:53,333
Speaker 2: having their driving suspended for twelve hours while it gets tested.

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01:09:53,372 --> 01:09:54,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is a massive hassel.

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01:09:54,692 --> 01:09:57,452
Speaker 2: So it is complicated, but I think we'd all agree

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01:09:57,492 --> 01:10:00,213
Speaker 2: we don't want empeered drivers on the road. But as

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01:10:00,253 --> 01:10:02,973
Speaker 2: I was saying before, impeered drivers, there's all kinds of

1373
01:10:03,093 --> 01:10:06,772
Speaker 2: peered drivers. It's interesting that the messages and just don't

1374
01:10:07,572 --> 01:10:10,253
Speaker 2: as a blanket don't drive on your impaired you know,

1375
01:10:10,492 --> 01:10:13,173
Speaker 2: whatever way that may be, whether it's lack of sleep,

1376
01:10:13,812 --> 01:10:14,452
Speaker 2: whatever it is.

1377
01:10:15,093 --> 01:10:16,853
Speaker 3: Sure and how are you mate?

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01:10:17,173 --> 01:10:20,572
Speaker 17: I met in Tyler, Good afternoon. I agree with some

1379
01:10:20,612 --> 01:10:24,213
Speaker 17: of your early callers about the munters. I personally want

1380
01:10:24,213 --> 01:10:26,572
Speaker 17: to want to do any activity when you're impaired. I'm

1381
01:10:26,612 --> 01:10:28,892
Speaker 17: a hunter. I wouldn't care around a rifle when I've

1382
01:10:28,933 --> 01:10:31,572
Speaker 17: been drinking. I don't do drugs. I'm in the fitness

1383
01:10:31,652 --> 01:10:34,173
Speaker 17: quad a bit. I grew up in the eighties when

1384
01:10:34,412 --> 01:10:37,173
Speaker 17: they're wearing like six hundred road desks a year, drink

1385
01:10:37,253 --> 01:10:41,812
Speaker 17: driving and people classified as a public health risk, which

1386
01:10:41,853 --> 01:10:44,333
Speaker 17: it was, and a mass of campaign brought that down.

1387
01:10:44,973 --> 01:10:47,213
Speaker 17: But my sister's a physician and I'm not a I'm

1388
01:10:47,253 --> 01:10:50,012
Speaker 17: a chemicalion jae by trade. But I asked her she's helped.

1389
01:10:50,293 --> 01:10:54,492
Speaker 17: She's encountered youth and other people on both ends of spectrum. Obviously,

1390
01:10:54,492 --> 01:10:58,412
Speaker 17: with the marijuana and the downers, it affects reaction time,

1391
01:10:58,492 --> 01:11:00,612
Speaker 17: and the same thing the people who are on the uppers,

1392
01:11:01,013 --> 01:11:03,053
Speaker 17: they're tense. Imagine a fifteen year old who just got

1393
01:11:03,093 --> 01:11:04,932
Speaker 17: to lift the idea all tents behind the world of car.

1394
01:11:05,933 --> 01:11:07,973
Speaker 17: Same sort of thing. And a car traving at a

1395
01:11:08,093 --> 01:11:10,452
Speaker 17: hundred or fifty, one hundred ks or fifty ks. It's

1396
01:11:10,452 --> 01:11:14,253
Speaker 17: the reaction time and the amount of reaction. It doesn't

1397
01:11:14,293 --> 01:11:16,452
Speaker 17: matter how their body is impaired, as if they can

1398
01:11:16,772 --> 01:11:18,652
Speaker 17: if they're tense and they're traveling at high speed and

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01:11:18,692 --> 01:11:22,093
Speaker 17: they suddenly jerk the wheel. Someone on an upper or

1400
01:11:22,253 --> 01:11:26,452
Speaker 17: a metabolic stimulant can be as dangerous as a person

1401
01:11:26,492 --> 01:11:28,973
Speaker 17: on a downer. I agree it should be blanket. There

1402
01:11:28,973 --> 01:11:31,372
Speaker 17: should be no milligram limit. If you've got alcohol, you've

1403
01:11:31,372 --> 01:11:33,732
Speaker 17: got whatever it is. If you're any subtances, and there

1404
01:11:33,732 --> 01:11:38,052
Speaker 17: shouldn't be a demarketed line. They should, they should be banned.

1405
01:11:38,652 --> 01:11:40,133
Speaker 17: You wouldn't want to, like I said, a surgeon, or

1406
01:11:40,133 --> 01:11:44,973
Speaker 17: someone's offerating who's impaired, and yeah, it's just nuts. If

1407
01:11:45,013 --> 01:11:47,173
Speaker 17: you're traveling one hundred kg one hundred k thing of

1408
01:11:47,213 --> 01:11:50,133
Speaker 17: the reaction time, even if you're hyped up and you're

1409
01:11:50,173 --> 01:11:51,333
Speaker 17: going to make one little mistake.

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01:11:51,772 --> 01:11:52,293
Speaker 3: It's interesting.

1411
01:11:52,333 --> 01:11:54,173
Speaker 2: It's interesting to say that, Sean, because I was I

1412
01:11:54,253 --> 01:11:57,253
Speaker 2: was involved. About ten years ago, I hosted this documentary

1413
01:11:57,293 --> 01:12:02,613
Speaker 2: called Driving High, which was a documentary looking into impairment,

1414
01:12:02,732 --> 01:12:05,933
Speaker 2: and we flew over to Colorado and shot it in

1415
01:12:05,973 --> 01:12:08,293
Speaker 2: Denver and it was it was good, you know, as

1416
01:12:08,412 --> 01:12:12,412
Speaker 2: legalization of marijuana was coming into effect over there, and

1417
01:12:12,572 --> 01:12:15,093
Speaker 2: we hired a race track. Actually, when I say we,

1418
01:12:15,213 --> 01:12:17,293
Speaker 2: I was just a host. So the people that were

1419
01:12:17,333 --> 01:12:21,572
Speaker 2: running it hired a racetrack and we had people driving

1420
01:12:21,612 --> 01:12:25,052
Speaker 2: around it who were stoned and people that were drunk,

1421
01:12:25,612 --> 01:12:28,772
Speaker 2: and people that were drunk and stone and we were

1422
01:12:28,853 --> 01:12:32,732
Speaker 2: flashing red lights at them and testing different reaction times

1423
01:12:32,732 --> 01:12:36,532
Speaker 2: with things popping out from the side and such. And

1424
01:12:36,732 --> 01:12:40,932
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, the people that were absolutely terrible

1425
01:12:40,933 --> 01:12:43,412
Speaker 2: at driving were the people that were drunk and stoned.

1426
01:12:44,173 --> 01:12:49,012
Speaker 2: That that double impairment was just so very very bad.

1427
01:12:50,213 --> 01:12:51,933
Speaker 17: I think we've got a cultures country, a lot of

1428
01:12:52,412 --> 01:12:56,093
Speaker 17: I'm i'm a miarly fifties, but and the youth maybe

1429
01:12:56,093 --> 01:12:58,572
Speaker 17: say twenty to thirty, who it's not just a drug

1430
01:12:58,652 --> 01:13:01,813
Speaker 17: that is a drink, it's a it's a cocktail of entertainment,

1431
01:13:02,173 --> 01:13:05,572
Speaker 17: you know, pleasures, whatever there's when their evening is going out,

1432
01:13:05,853 --> 01:13:08,492
Speaker 17: and they tend to mix them and you can have

1433
01:13:08,652 --> 01:13:10,412
Speaker 17: doesn't have to be broken, it doesn't have to be

1434
01:13:10,492 --> 01:13:13,453
Speaker 17: raining that the road doesn't have to be poorly maintained

1435
01:13:13,853 --> 01:13:18,972
Speaker 17: someone jumps out. There's also in Colorado in California where

1436
01:13:18,973 --> 01:13:22,732
Speaker 17: they've got the legalized medical marijuana quite extensive. I've got

1437
01:13:22,732 --> 01:13:24,852
Speaker 17: marijuana farms and all the rest of it. There's a

1438
01:13:24,893 --> 01:13:28,013
Speaker 17: lot of people who aren't medicinally required they buy it

1439
01:13:28,093 --> 01:13:30,532
Speaker 17: a thh level is lower, but there's been an increasing

1440
01:13:30,572 --> 01:13:33,133
Speaker 17: amount of nose to tails. Not fatal, but you know,

1441
01:13:33,812 --> 01:13:38,093
Speaker 17: maiming accidents or accent through people who they say, we'sh

1442
01:13:38,093 --> 01:13:40,173
Speaker 17: your license to divide the minute and oh we just

1443
01:13:40,173 --> 01:13:42,972
Speaker 17: got into the store. Because they sell to anybody. But

1444
01:13:43,213 --> 01:13:45,013
Speaker 17: I'm just very very conscious. I think we should have

1445
01:13:45,013 --> 01:13:49,333
Speaker 17: no impairment either alcohol. It should be a blanket band.

1446
01:13:49,532 --> 01:13:52,452
Speaker 17: I appreciate it. It's a controversial subject, but it's going

1447
01:13:52,532 --> 01:13:55,812
Speaker 17: to take one person who's overly hyped up driving a

1448
01:13:55,893 --> 01:13:59,892
Speaker 17: high speed to cause a major accident. But yeah, Relivan

1449
01:13:59,973 --> 01:14:01,492
Speaker 17: VI would pick up a few.

1450
01:14:02,412 --> 01:14:03,372
Speaker 2: That's absolutely true.

1451
01:14:03,412 --> 01:14:04,372
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, good point.

1452
01:14:04,372 --> 01:14:06,093
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. When I was shooting that documentary

1453
01:14:06,173 --> 01:14:08,652
Speaker 2: driving high I had to drive around and on the

1454
01:14:08,692 --> 01:14:10,852
Speaker 2: right side of the road, and I was completely sober

1455
01:14:10,973 --> 01:14:13,692
Speaker 2: old time, But just the fact I was on the

1456
01:14:13,692 --> 01:14:15,732
Speaker 2: wrong side of the road I was driving compared especially

1457
01:14:16,492 --> 01:14:18,852
Speaker 2: especially a big left turn.

1458
01:14:19,053 --> 01:14:21,173
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that is freaky. When you're in the

1459
01:14:21,253 --> 01:14:23,732
Speaker 3: right right hand driving country, that is scary as all.

1460
01:14:23,772 --> 01:14:26,133
Speaker 2: Well, you feel like you're hanging out in the middle

1461
01:14:26,173 --> 01:14:27,973
Speaker 2: of nowhere when you're going around the corner in that

1462
01:14:28,013 --> 01:14:29,932
Speaker 2: kind of situation. Car parks will also get you as

1463
01:14:29,933 --> 01:14:31,253
Speaker 2: well when you're on the right side of the road.

1464
01:14:31,492 --> 01:14:35,293
Speaker 2: But just to finish off, my thoughts are on that drive. Actually,

1465
01:14:35,372 --> 01:14:37,372
Speaker 2: I'll come back in the break and I'll tell you

1466
01:14:37,572 --> 01:14:39,213
Speaker 2: a little bit more about that test that we did

1467
01:14:39,253 --> 01:14:40,412
Speaker 2: over in Colorado.

1468
01:14:40,492 --> 01:14:42,652
Speaker 3: Yeah. Great, it is eight to three. Back in a month,

1469
01:14:43,652 --> 01:14:46,093
Speaker 3: the issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

1470
01:14:46,133 --> 01:14:46,772
Speaker 3: along the way.

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01:14:46,973 --> 01:14:50,172
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk.

1472
01:14:50,013 --> 01:14:50,372
Speaker 11: Said, be.

1473
01:14:52,372 --> 01:14:54,452
Speaker 3: It is four to three.

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01:14:55,213 --> 01:14:57,772
Speaker 2: There's a great discussion this textas says Matt, you appear

1475
01:14:57,893 --> 01:15:00,372
Speaker 2: to be an apologist for druggies. Thirty percent of road

1476
01:15:00,372 --> 01:15:03,933
Speaker 2: death casualties have drugs in their system. A few I

1477
01:15:03,973 --> 01:15:05,452
Speaker 2: have not been at all, but I don't think. I

1478
01:15:05,492 --> 01:15:07,412
Speaker 2: think we can have a conversation where you ask if

1479
01:15:07,412 --> 01:15:10,012
Speaker 2: there's a difference between the impairments between ups and downers,

1480
01:15:10,013 --> 01:15:11,293
Speaker 2: and I think we've got the answer that there is

1481
01:15:11,333 --> 01:15:13,452
Speaker 2: a difference, but there are still impairments. So you know,

1482
01:15:13,652 --> 01:15:15,933
Speaker 2: we can have these discussions. What I will say is

1483
01:15:15,933 --> 01:15:18,572
Speaker 2: about these tests that we did over in Denver with

1484
01:15:18,612 --> 01:15:21,933
Speaker 2: this racetrack and putting lights on and drunk people and

1485
01:15:22,013 --> 01:15:24,772
Speaker 2: Stone people and drunken Stone people, I'd say I was

1486
01:15:24,853 --> 01:15:27,892
Speaker 2: disappointed with how good the sober drivers were as well. Right,

1487
01:15:27,973 --> 01:15:31,852
Speaker 2: the drunken Stone people couldn't basically not drive. Yeah, they

1488
01:15:31,893 --> 01:15:35,173
Speaker 2: were terrible. These Stone people were not great, and the

1489
01:15:35,853 --> 01:15:39,532
Speaker 2: sober people were the best, but still very poor drivers

1490
01:15:39,532 --> 01:15:40,372
Speaker 2: still mediocame.

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01:15:40,732 --> 01:15:43,052
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, fascinating. How you can go and watch that documentary.

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01:15:43,093 --> 01:15:45,492
Speaker 3: By the way, I'll be watching tonight. It's called Driving

1493
01:15:45,612 --> 01:15:48,812
Speaker 3: High and you can find that on YouTube. It's under

1494
01:15:48,812 --> 01:15:51,612
Speaker 3: the old TA doa science agency page. That looks like

1495
01:15:51,652 --> 01:15:54,333
Speaker 3: a great watch. Right, coming up after three o'clock, we

1496
01:15:54,333 --> 01:15:55,852
Speaker 3: want to have a chat about camping. Is it too

1497
01:15:55,973 --> 01:15:58,852
Speaker 3: late to get a spot in Some of those camping

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01:15:58,893 --> 01:16:01,772
Speaker 3: hot spots had hundred eighty ten eighty Is that number

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01:16:01,772 --> 01:16:03,253
Speaker 3: to call? Nine two nine two is a text?

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Speaker 2: Definitely don't drive on LSD.

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Speaker 1: You're a new home for insateful and entertaining talk. It's

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01:16:13,572 --> 01:16:18,093
Speaker 1: Matty and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk sebby.

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01:16:18,372 --> 01:16:21,093
Speaker 3: Seven past three. Welcome back into the show. Really good, Ever,

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01:16:21,093 --> 01:16:24,412
Speaker 3: your company is always on this Wednesday afternoon.

1505
01:16:24,812 --> 01:16:27,492
Speaker 2: Hey, so I've just I'm going to update something. So

1506
01:16:27,853 --> 01:16:30,372
Speaker 2: I was saying on a previous show, maybe because the

1507
01:16:30,372 --> 01:16:31,932
Speaker 2: show that you when you move into a new house,

1508
01:16:31,933 --> 01:16:34,213
Speaker 2: which I've just moved into, just moved into a new house,

1509
01:16:35,093 --> 01:16:37,692
Speaker 2: and I said on you once you set up your TV,

1510
01:16:38,173 --> 01:16:40,532
Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like it's home until you've plugged your TV.

1511
01:16:40,612 --> 01:16:44,412
Speaker 2: And that's going right now, I reckon it's until your

1512
01:16:44,452 --> 01:16:45,892
Speaker 2: internet's going. You don't feel like you're home.

1513
01:16:46,013 --> 01:16:46,652
Speaker 3: It's a good point.

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01:16:46,692 --> 01:16:47,812
Speaker 2: My internet's not going.

1515
01:16:47,893 --> 01:16:48,452
Speaker 3: What good is it?

1516
01:16:48,492 --> 01:16:50,093
Speaker 2: Tellly, if you don't have the internet, I know because

1517
01:16:50,133 --> 01:16:51,852
Speaker 2: it all comes through. It all comes through.

1518
01:16:51,853 --> 01:16:54,133
Speaker 3: It's a smart TV, so you need your apps going.

1519
01:16:54,572 --> 01:16:57,892
Speaker 2: It's terrible how dependent I am on the internet. But

1520
01:16:57,973 --> 01:17:00,652
Speaker 2: I'm just all at sea because I can't seem to

1521
01:17:00,652 --> 01:17:04,612
Speaker 2: work out my internet situation. And you know, I'm just

1522
01:17:04,652 --> 01:17:07,532
Speaker 2: wondering if our bosses are listening, we'll be able to

1523
01:17:07,933 --> 01:17:10,973
Speaker 2: take the the last hour off the show today so

1524
01:17:11,013 --> 01:17:13,973
Speaker 2: I can get on the phone to two degrees and

1525
01:17:14,253 --> 01:17:14,932
Speaker 2: get that sort.

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01:17:14,732 --> 01:17:16,333
Speaker 3: Of we all know how punishing that as well. If

1527
01:17:16,333 --> 01:17:18,532
Speaker 3: you're listening, you know we're only ten steps away. So

1528
01:17:18,572 --> 01:17:19,972
Speaker 3: we'll just see if he pops in here and gives

1529
01:17:19,973 --> 01:17:22,012
Speaker 3: the thumbs up or not. It is. That's a messive

1530
01:17:22,053 --> 01:17:24,372
Speaker 3: amount of Edmond. If you've got internet issues, and as

1531
01:17:24,372 --> 01:17:26,452
Speaker 3: I said before, it's a human right, that's effectively like

1532
01:17:26,532 --> 01:17:30,052
Speaker 3: depriving you of food and water, this company, this ISP,

1533
01:17:30,213 --> 01:17:31,972
Speaker 3: depriving you of your god given right.

1534
01:17:32,013 --> 01:17:33,412
Speaker 2: Look, I just want to say they. I don't think

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01:17:33,412 --> 01:17:36,892
Speaker 2: two Degrees have done anything wrong here it I probably

1536
01:17:36,893 --> 01:17:41,213
Speaker 2: shouldn't mention this situation them specifically. They just happened to be.

1537
01:17:41,893 --> 01:17:43,973
Speaker 2: I was on my republic right yep. And then my

1538
01:17:44,053 --> 01:17:47,412
Speaker 2: republic disappeared because my republic with the good gaming Internet

1539
01:17:47,612 --> 01:17:49,933
Speaker 2: people for a while there. Then they disappeared and they

1540
01:17:49,973 --> 01:17:52,932
Speaker 2: got enveloped into two degrees. And then because you never

1541
01:17:52,933 --> 01:17:55,253
Speaker 2: look at your internet, becausion again. It just blasts on

1542
01:17:55,293 --> 01:17:57,052
Speaker 2: and they charge you and it just keeps going and going.

1543
01:17:57,253 --> 01:17:59,692
Speaker 2: I never checked back in yep. And so when I

1544
01:17:59,973 --> 01:18:03,452
Speaker 2: move house, I'm like, go to talk to two degrees,

1545
01:18:03,532 --> 01:18:06,132
Speaker 2: iming to my republic, and they don't exist in colm Burger.

1546
01:18:06,253 --> 01:18:09,852
Speaker 2: So then I try and talk to two degrees, and

1547
01:18:09,893 --> 01:18:11,412
Speaker 2: then there's just confusion between the accounts.

1548
01:18:11,452 --> 01:18:11,612
Speaker 17: Right.

1549
01:18:11,812 --> 01:18:13,732
Speaker 2: But I just really want my Internet on because I'm

1550
01:18:13,732 --> 01:18:16,772
Speaker 2: just thinking, I just bought this new TV and I

1551
01:18:16,853 --> 01:18:17,532
Speaker 2: just want to set it.

1552
01:18:17,532 --> 01:18:18,333
Speaker 17: Up for you.

1553
01:18:18,412 --> 01:18:19,213
Speaker 3: Man, I really do.

1554
01:18:19,293 --> 01:18:19,932
Speaker 2: I'm all at sea.

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01:18:20,093 --> 01:18:22,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, you are all at sea without my internet. I

1556
01:18:22,173 --> 01:18:24,852
Speaker 3: mean it's pathetic. My internet's humming. I don't know why

1557
01:18:24,853 --> 01:18:26,492
Speaker 3: I said that, but you know, I feel for you.

1558
01:18:26,492 --> 01:18:27,732
Speaker 3: You need it. You need the Internet.

1559
01:18:27,933 --> 01:18:31,692
Speaker 2: For hundreds of thousands of years, Homo sapien sapiens have

1560
01:18:31,853 --> 01:18:37,852
Speaker 2: been able to live without houses, without electricity, and definitely

1561
01:18:37,853 --> 01:18:41,532
Speaker 2: without the Internet. But now we've become so soft, mody

1562
01:18:41,532 --> 01:18:44,692
Speaker 2: colored and weak that we almost can't exist without our

1563
01:18:44,772 --> 01:18:45,892
Speaker 2: Internet collection at our house.

1564
01:18:45,933 --> 01:18:48,253
Speaker 3: But once you have a taste, you know you need more.

1565
01:18:48,333 --> 01:18:49,452
Speaker 3: You need more. It's like a drug.

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01:18:49,692 --> 01:18:51,572
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean you get a luxury, you're excited

1567
01:18:51,572 --> 01:18:53,732
Speaker 2: about it, and then that becomes standard and then you

1568
01:18:53,732 --> 01:18:55,293
Speaker 2: can't live without it. That's the problem with luxuries.

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01:18:55,372 --> 01:18:55,452
Speaker 10: Right.

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01:18:55,853 --> 01:18:57,812
Speaker 3: Well, well gone speed man. Good luck to you. I

1571
01:18:57,853 --> 01:19:00,013
Speaker 3: really hope by the time you get home. Yeah, we

1572
01:19:00,053 --> 01:19:01,532
Speaker 3: haven't seen will yet, so I think that's to know.

1573
01:19:01,652 --> 01:19:03,172
Speaker 3: You've got to carry on. Four o'clock.

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01:19:03,173 --> 01:19:04,612
Speaker 2: Oh, look, I love the show. I loved it doing it.

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01:19:04,652 --> 01:19:04,852
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:19:04,893 --> 01:19:08,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know I'm under heavy heartship, not even one.

1577
01:19:08,772 --> 01:19:10,612
Speaker 3: There's a lot of pressure on you at the moment. Right,

1578
01:19:10,893 --> 01:19:11,892
Speaker 3: let's get into this one.

1579
01:19:12,013 --> 01:19:14,293
Speaker 2: So if you are two degrees and you want to

1580
01:19:14,333 --> 01:19:16,053
Speaker 2: ring through an eight hundred and eighty teen eighty on

1581
01:19:16,652 --> 01:19:18,412
Speaker 2: the topic we're about to talk about, we will take

1582
01:19:18,452 --> 01:19:20,612
Speaker 2: your call, and I'll also ask you to sort my

1583
01:19:20,652 --> 01:19:21,773
Speaker 2: intern that out.

1584
01:19:21,372 --> 01:19:23,852
Speaker 3: There we go. Invitation is there? Right, let's get into

1585
01:19:23,893 --> 01:19:26,572
Speaker 3: this one. So, according to an article, it is bad

1586
01:19:26,612 --> 01:19:28,893
Speaker 3: news if you're still looking to book a camping getaway

1587
01:19:28,933 --> 01:19:31,852
Speaker 3: over summer New Zealand's Many of New Zealand's most popular

1588
01:19:31,893 --> 01:19:35,532
Speaker 3: sites are already heavily or fully booked, according to many

1589
01:19:35,893 --> 01:19:38,933
Speaker 3: camp site owners and operator So David Ovandale, he's the

1590
01:19:38,933 --> 01:19:41,173
Speaker 3: CEEO of the Top ten Holiday Parks Group. I've got

1591
01:19:41,173 --> 01:21:08,253
Speaker 3: a rout forty nine properties around the country and he's

1592
01:21:08,532 --> 01:21:11,692
Speaker 3: is they all have slightly nuanced really true that you

1593
01:21:11,732 --> 01:21:15,732
Speaker 3: can't find anywhere to pop your tents up over the

1594
01:21:15,732 --> 01:21:16,452
Speaker 3: summer period?

1595
01:21:16,732 --> 01:21:19,372
Speaker 2: Yeah? Or is it's just people go into the big

1596
01:21:19,572 --> 01:21:24,133
Speaker 2: commercial hot spot camping places. Because I think that you look,

1597
01:21:24,253 --> 01:21:27,493
Speaker 2: it's only what is it the twelfth of twelfth of November.

1598
01:21:27,973 --> 01:21:33,492
Speaker 2: It's the it's surely surely you can you can get

1599
01:21:33,532 --> 01:21:36,173
Speaker 2: a camp site right now? Yeah, I mean, what's wrong

1600
01:21:36,173 --> 01:21:38,173
Speaker 2: with the world if you can't. Oh, if you have

1601
01:21:38,253 --> 01:21:40,412
Speaker 2: to be that organized, you have to book a year ago.

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01:21:40,532 --> 01:21:42,812
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty. If you're in

1603
01:21:42,853 --> 01:21:47,492
Speaker 3: this situation right now, or indeed you've recently picked up

1604
01:21:47,492 --> 01:21:49,213
Speaker 3: the phone over the past couple of weeks and managed

1605
01:21:49,253 --> 01:21:51,412
Speaker 3: to find a camping spot, love to hear from you,

1606
01:21:51,692 --> 01:21:54,933
Speaker 3: and where are the hidden camping spots? We can be

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01:21:55,372 --> 01:21:59,213
Speaker 3: slightly anonymous if you like, But were have you booked

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01:21:59,253 --> 01:22:01,612
Speaker 3: for the summer? And where are the hot spots now?

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01:22:01,652 --> 01:22:03,572
Speaker 3: And if you're a campsite operator, how are you going

1610
01:22:03,572 --> 01:22:05,013
Speaker 3: at the moment? Are you fully booked or do you

1611
01:22:05,053 --> 01:22:07,093
Speaker 3: have spaces left? Really keen to hear from you. Oh,

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01:22:07,173 --> 01:22:09,372
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

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01:22:09,452 --> 01:22:11,612
Speaker 3: Nine two nine two is the text number. Let's get

1614
01:22:11,612 --> 01:22:12,932
Speaker 3: into it. It is twelve past.

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01:22:12,772 --> 01:22:14,053
Speaker 1: Three US talk.

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01:22:14,133 --> 01:22:15,333
Speaker 4: Sa'd be very.

1617
01:22:15,173 --> 01:22:17,492
Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you. So if you've been listening around

1618
01:22:17,532 --> 01:22:19,772
Speaker 3: the country, it appears we did go off here for

1619
01:22:19,812 --> 01:22:21,412
Speaker 3: a short period of time.

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01:22:21,452 --> 01:22:21,692
Speaker 11: There.

1621
01:22:21,732 --> 01:22:23,772
Speaker 3: Clearly we're back on well at least I hope because

1622
01:22:23,772 --> 01:22:25,973
Speaker 3: I'm going to keep talking into this microphone. But we

1623
01:22:26,053 --> 01:22:29,012
Speaker 3: have been talking about camping hotspots. It seems like, according

1624
01:22:29,013 --> 01:22:31,692
Speaker 3: to this article, are that many of the camping hot spots,

1625
01:22:31,732 --> 01:22:34,253
Speaker 3: if you're trying to book them now in November, you're

1626
01:22:34,253 --> 01:22:36,572
Speaker 3: probably out of luck because they get booked up pretty fast.

1627
01:22:37,372 --> 01:22:41,212
Speaker 3: But if you've got a camping spot that you always

1628
01:22:41,253 --> 01:22:42,692
Speaker 3: go to and you kind of book it around this time,

1629
01:22:42,772 --> 01:22:44,093
Speaker 3: love to hear from you. Oh one hundred and eighty

1630
01:22:44,133 --> 01:22:45,852
Speaker 3: ten eighty did we go off here for a bit?

1631
01:22:46,053 --> 01:22:50,293
Speaker 3: Apparently we did, Yeah, where I don't know, everywhere. I

1632
01:22:50,293 --> 01:22:53,572
Speaker 3: think maybe just in Wellington, I don't know. Well, yeah, no,

1633
01:22:53,652 --> 01:22:56,892
Speaker 3: we're just getting the big definitely in Wellington, and whether

1634
01:22:56,933 --> 01:22:58,973
Speaker 3: we're off here and other places, I don't know. We

1635
01:22:59,053 --> 01:23:01,812
Speaker 3: were just speaking to nobody, just me and you, Matt.

1636
01:23:01,772 --> 01:23:03,092
Speaker 2: That it's just like a little play.

1637
01:23:03,213 --> 01:23:03,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just.

1638
01:23:03,812 --> 01:23:05,772
Speaker 2: Having a conversation, just sitting in a room, having a

1639
01:23:05,853 --> 01:23:06,732
Speaker 2: very odd conversation.

1640
01:23:06,893 --> 01:23:07,093
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1641
01:23:07,213 --> 01:23:10,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we are talking about the camping hotspots. Love

1642
01:23:10,732 --> 01:23:13,652
Speaker 3: to hear where you are booked to stay in over

1643
01:23:14,492 --> 01:23:16,852
Speaker 3: We've got the boss ring in it now you were

1644
01:23:16,893 --> 01:23:19,572
Speaker 3: staying in over over summer of one hight ten eighty

1645
01:23:19,853 --> 01:23:21,692
Speaker 3: A couple of ticks coming through A nine two ninety two.

1646
01:23:21,853 --> 01:23:25,532
Speaker 2: Try fitzroy Dot Grounds at Great Barrier. See, that's that's

1647
01:23:25,572 --> 01:23:28,012
Speaker 2: the thing, because say they're saying that all the campsites

1648
01:23:28,013 --> 01:23:29,892
Speaker 2: have gone, but that's only because people are trying to

1649
01:23:29,893 --> 01:23:35,133
Speaker 2: go to the big, commercial, obvious camp sites. If you're

1650
01:23:35,133 --> 01:23:37,213
Speaker 2: willing to, if you're willing to get on one of

1651
01:23:37,253 --> 01:23:41,012
Speaker 2: those you know, square planes and fly over to Great Barrier,

1652
01:23:41,333 --> 01:23:43,532
Speaker 2: absolutely you'll be able to get a bit of camping

1653
01:23:43,572 --> 01:23:46,532
Speaker 2: spot there. Yeah, to get to What area you wanted

1654
01:23:46,532 --> 01:23:48,933
Speaker 2: to go camping in? Mate, that's the question. See that

1655
01:23:49,093 --> 01:23:52,053
Speaker 2: that's that's these people that are saying that it's it's

1656
01:23:52,053 --> 01:23:54,732
Speaker 2: already too late to book camping sites. What area you

1657
01:23:54,812 --> 01:23:58,732
Speaker 2: wanted to go on? Yeah, I mean my family but

1658
01:23:59,293 --> 01:24:03,892
Speaker 2: often camp just outside Dunedin, right, and I mean on

1659
01:24:04,772 --> 01:24:06,492
Speaker 2: I think it was ne Year's Day a couple of

1660
01:24:06,532 --> 01:24:10,572
Speaker 2: years ago, did snow were camping, but there wasn't a

1661
01:24:10,572 --> 01:24:11,892
Speaker 2: lot of people around for that.

1662
01:24:11,893 --> 01:24:13,812
Speaker 3: That is good, you know, if you can brave some

1663
01:24:13,853 --> 01:24:16,492
Speaker 3: pretty horrendous weather and they're all good to go.

1664
01:24:16,933 --> 01:24:21,412
Speaker 2: My sister, she's a fantastic person, Catherine. But I went

1665
01:24:21,452 --> 01:24:23,732
Speaker 2: camping with her once and we arrived at the beach

1666
01:24:24,293 --> 01:24:27,973
Speaker 2: and we looked like I reckon two kilometers in the

1667
01:24:27,973 --> 01:24:29,812
Speaker 2: distance we could see another camper and she says, oh,

1668
01:24:29,853 --> 01:24:32,612
Speaker 2: we don't have the beach to ourself. Oh no, we

1669
01:24:32,612 --> 01:24:33,652
Speaker 2: don't have the beach to herself.

1670
01:24:34,253 --> 01:24:35,213
Speaker 3: So crowded down here.

1671
01:24:35,492 --> 01:24:38,333
Speaker 2: I think that's that's where you if you want to

1672
01:24:38,333 --> 01:24:40,532
Speaker 2: camp in Perkanuey Bay. I now I've given it away.

1673
01:24:40,973 --> 01:24:44,333
Speaker 2: There'll be more people there. What was it called Perakanoey Bay?

1674
01:24:44,412 --> 01:24:45,732
Speaker 2: Noted down in the Cantlands.

1675
01:24:45,772 --> 01:24:47,213
Speaker 3: Yep, Oh, beautiful spot.

1676
01:24:47,333 --> 01:24:52,253
Speaker 2: And then you'll you'll get you there's plenty of space. Yeah,

1677
01:24:52,293 --> 01:24:53,173
Speaker 2: but it might snow.

1678
01:24:53,812 --> 01:24:55,972
Speaker 3: There was a text here, Yeah, there we go. There

1679
01:24:56,013 --> 01:24:58,093
Speaker 3: was a text here about mar Poo a holiday park.

1680
01:24:58,093 --> 01:24:59,772
Speaker 3: Here it is mark Poo, a holiday park top of

1681
01:24:59,812 --> 01:25:02,892
Speaker 3: the South Island in the summer months. You are able

1682
01:25:02,973 --> 01:25:03,732
Speaker 3: to get your kid off.

1683
01:25:04,253 --> 01:25:05,492
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good.

1684
01:25:05,572 --> 01:25:07,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you didn't see anything about the booking situation.

1685
01:25:07,652 --> 01:25:09,253
Speaker 3: I imagine that's like it's fully booked.

1686
01:25:09,293 --> 01:25:11,213
Speaker 2: Okay. We went off in Mourronsville, we went off in

1687
01:25:11,293 --> 01:25:13,692
Speaker 2: christ Church. Does that mean we went off like we

1688
01:25:13,732 --> 01:25:15,452
Speaker 2: were amazing or we were off here.

1689
01:25:15,293 --> 01:25:16,013
Speaker 3: That's how I read it.

1690
01:25:16,572 --> 01:25:21,453
Speaker 2: Po poor christ Church and for Cargo Ashburden, Cambridge Hastings.

1691
01:25:21,692 --> 01:25:23,293
Speaker 2: What incredible content did people miss?

1692
01:25:24,893 --> 01:25:24,973
Speaker 8: You?

1693
01:25:25,093 --> 01:25:26,772
Speaker 3: Poor poor people? I mean that was some of the

1694
01:25:26,772 --> 01:25:29,412
Speaker 3: best stuff that we've ever done. So it appears we

1695
01:25:29,452 --> 01:25:32,932
Speaker 3: went off everywhere. So thank you very much. I mean,

1696
01:25:33,013 --> 01:25:35,093
Speaker 3: keep those techs coming in if you like. But keen

1697
01:25:35,133 --> 01:25:37,692
Speaker 3: to get your camping stories. O eight hundred and eighty

1698
01:25:37,812 --> 01:25:39,852
Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number to call? Where are you

1699
01:25:39,853 --> 01:25:42,293
Speaker 3: booked and to stay over summer? And as it really

1700
01:25:42,412 --> 01:25:44,132
Speaker 3: is booked out as you think it.

1701
01:25:43,933 --> 01:25:47,853
Speaker 2: Is, Oh my goodness, we went off in Tiadaha.

1702
01:25:48,372 --> 01:25:50,213
Speaker 3: That's a nice that's a nice place to camp.

1703
01:25:50,812 --> 01:25:54,133
Speaker 2: It's confusing because people because we've got two questions going

1704
01:25:54,133 --> 01:25:56,412
Speaker 2: at the same time. One is where can you still

1705
01:25:56,492 --> 01:25:57,412
Speaker 2: find a place to camp?

1706
01:25:57,532 --> 01:25:57,772
Speaker 5: Yep?

1707
01:25:58,213 --> 01:26:01,452
Speaker 2: And the other one over the Christmas holidays and the

1708
01:26:01,452 --> 01:26:04,173
Speaker 2: other one is where we went off here? So is

1709
01:26:04,293 --> 01:26:06,492
Speaker 2: this person saying that we went off here in Moronsville

1710
01:26:06,572 --> 01:26:09,012
Speaker 2: or Moronsville's a good place to camp over the summer break?

1711
01:26:09,093 --> 01:26:11,172
Speaker 3: Yeah? Look, I'll tell you what. Let's play some messages

1712
01:26:11,173 --> 01:26:15,293
Speaker 3: and we're going to reset this topic and get back

1713
01:26:15,293 --> 01:26:15,652
Speaker 3: on track.

1714
01:26:15,732 --> 01:26:18,253
Speaker 2: Here the wheels have come off. The wheels have come off.

1715
01:26:18,293 --> 01:26:20,053
Speaker 2: We'll take a break, we'll put the wheels back on,

1716
01:26:20,093 --> 01:26:22,612
Speaker 2: get those wing nuts back on, We'll get focused, and

1717
01:26:22,652 --> 01:26:23,932
Speaker 2: we'll get back on with the rest of the show.

1718
01:26:23,933 --> 01:26:30,572
Speaker 3: Look to it right nineteen Bass three. Back of the Month, Matt.

1719
01:26:30,412 --> 01:26:34,372
Speaker 1: Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty eighty

1720
01:26:34,452 --> 01:26:35,333
Speaker 1: on News Talk.

1721
01:26:35,213 --> 01:26:38,852
Speaker 3: ZV afternoon to you twenty two pass three. So let's

1722
01:26:38,853 --> 01:26:42,333
Speaker 3: reset this topic. We are talking about camping over summer.

1723
01:26:42,372 --> 01:26:44,133
Speaker 3: So according to this article, it's bad news if you're

1724
01:26:44,133 --> 01:26:46,452
Speaker 3: still looking for a camping get away. Many, they say,

1725
01:26:46,452 --> 01:26:49,372
Speaker 3: of New Zealand's most popular sites are already heavily or

1726
01:26:49,372 --> 01:26:53,452
Speaker 3: fully booked for the summer holidays. They quote to David Ovendale,

1727
01:26:53,452 --> 01:26:55,692
Speaker 3: he's the CEO of the top ten holiday Parks Great

1728
01:26:55,933 --> 01:26:58,412
Speaker 3: great camping spots. By the way, they've got forty nine

1729
01:26:58,452 --> 01:27:01,732
Speaker 3: properties around the country and they all have slightly new

1730
01:27:01,812 --> 01:27:04,692
Speaker 3: nuanced picks, he says. But from Boxing day till about

1731
01:27:04,692 --> 01:27:06,652
Speaker 3: the tenth or eleventh of jan you would either have

1732
01:27:06,732 --> 01:27:09,012
Speaker 3: to be very lucky or very flexible to get something

1733
01:27:09,093 --> 01:27:11,852
Speaker 3: at this point, says David. So we can you hear

1734
01:27:11,893 --> 01:27:15,692
Speaker 3: from you. Are you one of those procrastinators who leaves

1735
01:27:15,732 --> 01:27:18,693
Speaker 3: it to about now to try and book your campaign

1736
01:27:19,053 --> 01:27:22,093
Speaker 3: spot over summer O eight hundred eighty ten eighty And

1737
01:27:22,253 --> 01:27:25,053
Speaker 3: surely there must be some great spots, I mean, even

1738
01:27:25,093 --> 01:27:27,093
Speaker 3: if they are a little bit secret or a little

1739
01:27:27,133 --> 01:27:28,892
Speaker 3: bit off the beaten track. Love to hear from you.

1740
01:27:28,893 --> 01:27:29,492
Speaker 3: Where do you stay?

1741
01:27:29,572 --> 01:27:29,972
Speaker 11: Hi? Guys?

1742
01:27:30,013 --> 01:27:32,133
Speaker 2: You can stay at christ which means prison for free

1743
01:27:32,173 --> 01:27:35,013
Speaker 2: over Christmas and New Year's all meals, accommodation fully paid for.

1744
01:27:35,173 --> 01:27:39,532
Speaker 2: Thanks Matt. You know I appreciate that, Matt. I don't

1745
01:27:39,572 --> 01:27:40,892
Speaker 2: know what's it like? What are the views like?

1746
01:27:41,093 --> 01:27:44,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. If you get much sunshine, good swimming? Yeah,

1747
01:27:44,213 --> 01:27:46,692
Speaker 3: he's got a nice ball. Oh eight hundred eighty ten

1748
01:27:46,732 --> 01:27:50,133
Speaker 3: to eighty is the number to call? Can I just say, look,

1749
01:27:50,412 --> 01:27:52,333
Speaker 3: I'll get some pushback on this and bring it on.

1750
01:27:52,572 --> 01:27:56,093
Speaker 3: But the whole idea of priority booking for families who

1751
01:27:56,093 --> 01:27:58,372
Speaker 3: have booked a camping spot year in and year out,

1752
01:27:58,452 --> 01:28:02,053
Speaker 3: sometimes through generations, I don't know how I feel about that.

1753
01:28:02,093 --> 01:28:03,973
Speaker 3: Actually I do know how I feel about that. I

1754
01:28:04,013 --> 01:28:07,093
Speaker 3: hate it. KAITERII Terry is a prime example that if

1755
01:28:07,093 --> 01:28:10,253
Speaker 3: you're a family that's been there for fifty years, then

1756
01:28:10,692 --> 01:28:13,293
Speaker 3: you get the first chance to book that again A

1757
01:28:13,412 --> 01:28:14,452
Speaker 3: hit at anybody else?

1758
01:28:14,532 --> 01:28:15,133
Speaker 2: What's wrong with that?

1759
01:28:15,572 --> 01:28:17,692
Speaker 3: Because I want a shot. I'm not one of the

1760
01:28:17,692 --> 01:28:19,732
Speaker 3: elite families who have had the chance to stay there

1761
01:28:19,732 --> 01:28:21,492
Speaker 3: for fifty years. I kind of want to, you know,

1762
01:28:21,812 --> 01:28:24,533
Speaker 3: at least offer it to a lottery situation.

1763
01:28:25,293 --> 01:28:28,732
Speaker 2: Hang them. Someone owns it, runs a camp site, right,

1764
01:28:28,973 --> 01:28:32,492
Speaker 2: and they know that some people will a good campers yep,

1765
01:28:33,013 --> 01:28:35,812
Speaker 2: and they've got a relationship with them and they come

1766
01:28:35,893 --> 01:28:38,333
Speaker 2: back year after year. Do you know you say that, like,

1767
01:28:38,612 --> 01:28:40,692
Speaker 2: you know what, year forty nine you kick them out?

1768
01:28:42,053 --> 01:28:44,452
Speaker 2: What's your problem with that? That's just jealousy, that's just

1769
01:28:44,812 --> 01:28:46,933
Speaker 2: you don't have so you want what the haves have.

1770
01:28:47,173 --> 01:28:49,732
Speaker 3: That's exactly what it is. I'm not hiding away from

1771
01:28:49,732 --> 01:28:51,892
Speaker 3: that fact. But you know, I give them ten years.

1772
01:28:51,973 --> 01:28:54,452
Speaker 3: Ten years is plenty of time you want. Then after that,

1773
01:28:54,812 --> 01:28:58,013
Speaker 3: kick them out and let me in and you know

1774
01:28:58,293 --> 01:28:59,692
Speaker 3: I'll cause a lot of noise complaints.

1775
01:28:59,732 --> 01:29:01,253
Speaker 2: Did you read this text out? I book my Hamna

1776
01:29:01,253 --> 01:29:03,973
Speaker 2: Springs camp in June. Don't want to miss out. So

1777
01:29:04,093 --> 01:29:05,852
Speaker 2: that is that how far back you have to book

1778
01:29:05,853 --> 01:29:08,532
Speaker 2: at June? See? Because as I said, before you get

1779
01:29:08,532 --> 01:29:11,333
Speaker 2: these people that their book next year. As they're walking

1780
01:29:11,452 --> 01:29:13,812
Speaker 2: out on their way out from the holiday, they've got

1781
01:29:13,812 --> 01:29:15,173
Speaker 2: the car packed up. They pull up at the front

1782
01:29:15,213 --> 01:29:17,852
Speaker 2: desk and they book next year. And I'm such a

1783
01:29:17,853 --> 01:29:19,452
Speaker 2: commitment for I can't do that. I don't know where

1784
01:29:19,492 --> 01:29:20,492
Speaker 2: I'm going to be in a year from then.

1785
01:29:21,572 --> 01:29:22,213
Speaker 3: Pete, how are you?

1786
01:29:22,253 --> 01:29:22,532
Speaker 2: Mate?

1787
01:29:24,372 --> 01:29:28,053
Speaker 3: Get Pete? Hello? Pello?

1788
01:29:30,652 --> 01:29:30,972
Speaker 10: Gooday?

1789
01:29:31,853 --> 01:29:32,932
Speaker 9: Christ Oh?

1790
01:29:33,053 --> 01:29:33,372
Speaker 3: Chris?

1791
01:29:33,452 --> 01:29:34,732
Speaker 13: Is it? Well?

1792
01:29:34,732 --> 01:29:36,253
Speaker 3: There's Pete's not even close.

1793
01:29:36,692 --> 01:29:38,293
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1794
01:29:39,812 --> 01:29:43,053
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, mate, you just felt like a PiZZ to me.

1795
01:29:43,093 --> 01:29:43,812
Speaker 3: I'm sorry for that.

1796
01:29:45,772 --> 01:29:51,253
Speaker 12: Hey, here's a thought, am I just checked g BT

1797
01:29:51,612 --> 01:29:56,972
Speaker 12: to find me a campsite over Christmas from Auckland north

1798
01:29:57,093 --> 01:30:00,732
Speaker 12: or north of Aalkland that allowed for two people and

1799
01:30:00,772 --> 01:30:03,333
Speaker 12: a dog, and that gave.

1800
01:30:03,173 --> 01:30:03,732
Speaker 18: Me a list.

1801
01:30:04,173 --> 01:30:04,852
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go.

1802
01:30:04,973 --> 01:30:12,892
Speaker 18: And I mean, and then it seems to me, would

1803
01:30:12,933 --> 01:30:15,492
Speaker 18: you like those home numbers provided or would you like

1804
01:30:15,612 --> 01:30:19,412
Speaker 18: me to go online and check actual availability?

1805
01:30:19,652 --> 01:30:22,293
Speaker 12: So my suggestion is get on chat CBT.

1806
01:30:22,053 --> 01:30:26,572
Speaker 2: And yeah, but I mean, I've got to I've got

1807
01:30:26,572 --> 01:30:27,492
Speaker 2: a couple of problems with that.

1808
01:30:27,812 --> 01:30:27,972
Speaker 17: Yea.

1809
01:30:29,133 --> 01:30:30,932
Speaker 2: We've got to be better than just using chat TVT

1810
01:30:31,053 --> 01:30:31,852
Speaker 2: to do this kind of stuff.

1811
01:30:31,893 --> 01:30:32,412
Speaker 11: For us m C.

1812
01:30:32,652 --> 01:30:36,013
Speaker 2: You can't trust them. You can't trust hallucinations. Yeah, I mean,

1813
01:30:36,372 --> 01:30:39,572
Speaker 2: because numbers are going to go, it'll go through. Have

1814
01:30:39,692 --> 01:30:41,572
Speaker 2: you set up agents through that? Chris, So you've just

1815
01:30:41,572 --> 01:30:43,773
Speaker 2: gone straight raw into chet GBT.

1816
01:30:44,412 --> 01:30:46,372
Speaker 12: Straight raw into chat TBT.

1817
01:30:46,532 --> 01:30:50,412
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, yeah, I just I just, you know,

1818
01:30:50,572 --> 01:30:53,213
Speaker 2: like in the past with chet GVT, what's happened to

1819
01:30:53,253 --> 01:30:56,253
Speaker 2: me is it's so confident, it's so sure that that

1820
01:30:56,333 --> 01:31:00,013
Speaker 2: it feels you full of confidence and then you you

1821
01:31:00,173 --> 01:31:02,253
Speaker 2: ring that number and what it's done is it's read

1822
01:31:02,372 --> 01:31:05,452
Speaker 2: the site and the way the site is positive and

1823
01:31:05,772 --> 01:31:08,173
Speaker 2: it can be confusing. It's a good, good place.

1824
01:31:08,612 --> 01:31:12,412
Speaker 3: Chris, Thank you very much, mate. Chet cheap Eta might

1825
01:31:12,412 --> 01:31:15,173
Speaker 3: be the answer to some people, but tread carefully. Oh

1826
01:31:15,173 --> 01:31:17,173
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number of cool?

1827
01:31:17,213 --> 01:31:18,492
Speaker 3: Nine two nine two is the text?

1828
01:31:18,652 --> 01:31:20,973
Speaker 2: I live in Topo, have a good sized backyard you

1829
01:31:20,973 --> 01:31:21,973
Speaker 2: could park your tent on.

1830
01:31:22,772 --> 01:31:26,132
Speaker 3: That's a good offer. You've got a pretty solid tent.

1831
01:31:26,893 --> 01:31:31,133
Speaker 2: Big campground in gold Sand Bay. Ask confirmation for the

1832
01:31:31,173 --> 01:31:32,933
Speaker 2: following year by February.

1833
01:31:33,213 --> 01:31:37,492
Speaker 3: Yeah. See again. I mean, look, if you're heavy enough

1834
01:31:37,532 --> 01:31:39,572
Speaker 3: to book as soon as you're leaving that campground in

1835
01:31:39,652 --> 01:31:42,133
Speaker 3: January for the year ahead. Fair play to you, but

1836
01:31:42,213 --> 01:31:45,092
Speaker 3: I just think in the you know, in all fairness,

1837
01:31:45,173 --> 01:31:46,973
Speaker 3: should there not just be a stand down period for

1838
01:31:47,013 --> 01:31:49,653
Speaker 3: a couple of months, wait until March and let everybody

1839
01:31:50,492 --> 01:31:52,372
Speaker 3: go in at the same time like the Great Walks,

1840
01:31:52,492 --> 01:31:54,013
Speaker 3: you know, just open it up at the same time.

1841
01:31:54,093 --> 01:31:56,293
Speaker 3: Everyone go hell for leather and try and get in.

1842
01:31:56,492 --> 01:31:59,412
Speaker 2: Well, it's like trying to book Metallica tickets. Well you

1843
01:31:59,412 --> 01:32:01,812
Speaker 2: you just have to refresh and refresh and fresh until

1844
01:32:01,812 --> 01:32:04,412
Speaker 2: you get in in the site explodes, just go camping.

1845
01:32:04,213 --> 01:32:06,732
Speaker 3: Give it to ticket Master to solve, out to solve,

1846
01:32:06,893 --> 01:32:09,652
Speaker 3: and then people like you and me might actually get

1847
01:32:09,692 --> 01:32:11,852
Speaker 3: a chance. All right, all right? Oh e one hundred

1848
01:32:11,933 --> 01:32:14,133
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is that number to call headlines with

1849
01:32:14,213 --> 01:32:14,852
Speaker 3: railing coming on?

1850
01:32:15,173 --> 01:32:17,293
Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty ten eighty. Are there any campsites

1851
01:32:17,293 --> 01:32:20,452
Speaker 2: out there that are still available for our some holiday bookings.

1852
01:32:22,612 --> 01:32:26,053
Speaker 8: US talks it'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's

1853
01:32:26,133 --> 01:32:29,492
Speaker 8: no trouble with a blue bubble. The police minister says

1854
01:32:29,572 --> 01:32:34,412
Speaker 8: he's extremely disappointed by a report revealing senior police didn't

1855
01:32:34,452 --> 01:32:38,772
Speaker 8: investigate allegations when they were made against a former Deputy

1856
01:32:38,812 --> 01:32:41,933
Speaker 8: Police Commissioner, they weren't checked out at the time and

1857
01:32:42,013 --> 01:32:46,373
Speaker 8: the complainant was charged with harassment. A public health professor

1858
01:32:46,652 --> 01:32:51,092
Speaker 8: says New Zealand's decline in ratings indexing safeguards against tobacco

1859
01:32:51,213 --> 01:32:55,812
Speaker 8: industry interference is a damning indictment. Jan Hook says our

1860
01:32:55,853 --> 01:33:00,572
Speaker 8: country has been letting big companies infiltrate policy making. Labour's

1861
01:33:00,612 --> 01:33:03,652
Speaker 8: express support for the passing of the Medicine's Amendment Bill,

1862
01:33:04,053 --> 01:33:08,492
Speaker 8: saying speeding up approvals is laudable. I am hope found

1863
01:33:08,372 --> 01:33:11,372
Speaker 8: under Mike King is looking for a new chief executive

1864
01:33:11,372 --> 01:33:14,732
Speaker 8: for the youth mental health charity behind gun Boot Friday.

1865
01:33:15,732 --> 01:33:19,092
Speaker 8: A neighborhood group in Auckland's Freeman's Bay is urging locals

1866
01:33:19,093 --> 01:33:21,772
Speaker 8: to flood the council in Box, objecting to a planned

1867
01:33:21,853 --> 01:33:26,213
Speaker 8: nine story development, clad and vibrant purple and blue. It'll

1868
01:33:26,213 --> 01:33:30,932
Speaker 8: be named the Kubrick, after the US movie maker Big Bash,

1869
01:33:31,013 --> 01:33:34,572
Speaker 8: Super Smash, or something else. Alex Pale looks at the

1870
01:33:34,572 --> 01:33:37,093
Speaker 8: future of New Zealand's T twenty cricket League. You can

1871
01:33:37,133 --> 01:33:38,213
Speaker 8: read the full column at end.

1872
01:33:38,253 --> 01:33:38,612
Speaker 2: Said here.

1873
01:33:38,612 --> 01:33:41,693
Speaker 8: Ald Premium macnaw to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

1874
01:33:41,333 --> 01:33:43,412
Speaker 3: Thanks you very much, Raylan. We're talking about camp spots

1875
01:33:43,452 --> 01:33:46,772
Speaker 3: over some many operators are saying it's almost fully booked

1876
01:33:46,893 --> 01:33:50,812
Speaker 3: and many people even book and jen as soon as

1877
01:33:50,853 --> 01:33:52,532
Speaker 3: they leave in the summer, they book again for the

1878
01:33:52,572 --> 01:33:54,852
Speaker 3: next year. So love to hear where your campid spots are.

1879
01:33:55,093 --> 01:33:56,213
Speaker 2: Jay, Welcome to the show.

1880
01:33:57,053 --> 01:33:57,892
Speaker 5: How's it going, Lad?

1881
01:33:58,452 --> 01:33:59,972
Speaker 2: Very good. You've got a family of six.

1882
01:34:00,973 --> 01:34:04,012
Speaker 5: We've got a family of six, me and my wife,

1883
01:34:04,293 --> 01:34:06,133
Speaker 5: our three boys in our daughter.

1884
01:34:07,812 --> 01:34:09,853
Speaker 2: And we're you in your big campus.

1885
01:34:11,013 --> 01:34:11,372
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1886
01:34:11,452 --> 01:34:15,373
Speaker 5: Yeah, So every year we don't have a specific campsite

1887
01:34:15,372 --> 01:34:18,412
Speaker 5: we go to every year. Every year the wife will

1888
01:34:18,452 --> 01:34:22,412
Speaker 5: choose the choose the area. The following year, I'll choose

1889
01:34:22,452 --> 01:34:25,532
Speaker 5: one and then obviously go back to then back to me.

1890
01:34:26,893 --> 01:34:29,612
Speaker 5: So we've been camping the last six years and we've

1891
01:34:29,652 --> 01:34:33,213
Speaker 5: done uh, the last six years, we've done Top ten

1892
01:34:33,253 --> 01:34:37,572
Speaker 5: Holiday parks. This year we've decided to go up north

1893
01:34:37,612 --> 01:34:44,093
Speaker 5: to a private campsite out in rural Caracker. We we

1894
01:34:44,173 --> 01:34:48,452
Speaker 5: love the Top ten Holiday parks. They're amazing for families

1895
01:34:48,492 --> 01:34:52,492
Speaker 5: and stuff like that, and it goes them because of

1896
01:34:52,652 --> 01:34:57,293
Speaker 5: the swimming pools and facilities they they got there well

1897
01:34:57,412 --> 01:34:59,892
Speaker 5: for this year like we are. Yeah, going up north

1898
01:34:59,893 --> 01:35:02,852
Speaker 5: to rural car I've never been. There are great stories

1899
01:35:02,893 --> 01:35:08,412
Speaker 5: about it, but yeah, it's we tend to book, We

1900
01:35:09,013 --> 01:35:12,053
Speaker 5: find a place of interest and then we pray about it.

1901
01:35:12,732 --> 01:35:15,652
Speaker 5: Nine times out of ten day were arks would you

1902
01:35:15,692 --> 01:35:20,093
Speaker 5: like to stay powered or unpowered sites? And then make

1903
01:35:20,612 --> 01:35:23,972
Speaker 5: make the decision and then they'll give us you know. Yeah,

1904
01:35:24,293 --> 01:35:26,932
Speaker 5: these are the data available if you want to take it,

1905
01:35:27,013 --> 01:35:28,852
Speaker 5: put a deposit down and you can see the rest

1906
01:35:28,893 --> 01:35:29,772
Speaker 5: when you come through the gate.

1907
01:35:30,452 --> 01:35:34,052
Speaker 2: How long in advancewer you booking those? Those are you booking?

1908
01:35:34,133 --> 01:35:35,412
Speaker 3: Juh?

1909
01:35:36,053 --> 01:35:40,812
Speaker 5: We normally ten support by midwinter and then by then

1910
01:35:40,893 --> 01:35:43,772
Speaker 5: we can either you know, get some new camp stuff

1911
01:35:43,933 --> 01:35:48,133
Speaker 5: or be what we need and what not. But well,

1912
01:35:48,133 --> 01:35:50,372
Speaker 5: it also plays a big part when you're also camping,

1913
01:35:50,452 --> 01:35:50,692
Speaker 5: you know.

1914
01:35:52,372 --> 01:35:55,772
Speaker 3: And so I mean mid June, that's that's not too

1915
01:35:56,333 --> 01:35:59,173
Speaker 3: bad for most of us. So you always manage to

1916
01:35:59,173 --> 01:36:01,253
Speaker 3: find a pretty good spot. If your book six months

1917
01:36:01,253 --> 01:36:01,692
Speaker 3: a year.

1918
01:36:02,412 --> 01:36:06,973
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it does. It does help. I mean, obviously

1919
01:36:07,053 --> 01:36:10,533
Speaker 5: in the Christmas rush, everyone's you know, you go to Christmas,

1920
01:36:11,093 --> 01:36:15,852
Speaker 5: all sin of stuff works finished up and that all

1921
01:36:16,013 --> 01:36:19,532
Speaker 5: Christmas vibers happening and whatnot. When it does, it does

1922
01:36:20,372 --> 01:36:22,892
Speaker 5: pay to just balking at once.

1923
01:36:23,133 --> 01:36:25,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, got any pets with you? Do they allow pets?

1924
01:36:26,053 --> 01:36:26,213
Speaker 1: Oh?

1925
01:36:26,412 --> 01:36:31,812
Speaker 5: Nah, no, Yeah, we've like family of four kids, like

1926
01:36:32,053 --> 01:36:34,452
Speaker 5: lasting I want to do. We've got two dogs and

1927
01:36:35,253 --> 01:36:37,893
Speaker 5: we've always had someone to come in house for so

1928
01:36:39,013 --> 01:36:41,372
Speaker 5: I just want to We normally just want to go relax,

1929
01:36:42,173 --> 01:36:45,133
Speaker 5: explore the area that we've gone going to camp at

1930
01:36:45,213 --> 01:36:45,772
Speaker 5: and whatnot.

1931
01:36:45,893 --> 01:36:49,972
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah sounds awesome up and real karka beautiful

1932
01:36:50,013 --> 01:36:53,572
Speaker 3: place the Northland. Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is

1933
01:36:53,612 --> 01:36:55,572
Speaker 3: that number of cour Plenty of texts coming through on

1934
01:36:55,772 --> 01:36:57,452
Speaker 3: nine to nine to two.

1935
01:36:57,732 --> 01:36:59,532
Speaker 2: If I was that camping ground, and I would definitely

1936
01:36:59,572 --> 01:37:01,852
Speaker 2: look after my long term campers that I knew, rather

1937
01:37:01,893 --> 01:37:03,973
Speaker 2: than taking a gamble on some twitch turning up that

1938
01:37:04,093 --> 01:37:06,932
Speaker 2: doesn't fit. Take that however you want. That's from Clive.

1939
01:37:07,093 --> 01:37:08,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh look that's fair.

1940
01:37:08,492 --> 01:37:10,933
Speaker 2: I mean I think you're running a sort of a

1941
01:37:11,612 --> 01:37:14,492
Speaker 2: sort of a policy of envy there, Tyler. So you're saying,

1942
01:37:14,692 --> 01:37:17,692
Speaker 2: these people have been camping here for years and years

1943
01:37:17,732 --> 01:37:19,333
Speaker 2: and years, they get the good spots. I want the

1944
01:37:19,372 --> 01:37:21,852
Speaker 2: good spots. Therefore, it's morally wrong that they keep getting

1945
01:37:21,853 --> 01:37:22,333
Speaker 2: the good spots.

1946
01:37:22,372 --> 01:37:25,093
Speaker 3: You've summed that up very nicely. Thank you, Matt. How

1947
01:37:25,133 --> 01:37:25,652
Speaker 3: are you mate?

1948
01:37:27,572 --> 01:37:29,772
Speaker 14: Yeah, hey guys, Yeah, I just wanted to talk about

1949
01:37:29,812 --> 01:37:32,572
Speaker 14: a weekend that my family just said and Funganui. Actually

1950
01:37:33,412 --> 01:37:35,452
Speaker 14: we stayed at the Top ten holiday park there and

1951
01:37:35,612 --> 01:37:37,972
Speaker 14: I had an amazing experience. It was really really cool.

1952
01:37:38,093 --> 01:37:40,293
Speaker 14: So sort of following on from what the previous callers

1953
01:37:40,333 --> 01:37:43,132
Speaker 14: said about his experience of the Top Ten, couldn't recommend

1954
01:37:43,133 --> 01:37:48,412
Speaker 14: it super safe for families, well equipped. Yeah, everyone's seen

1955
01:37:48,452 --> 01:37:49,452
Speaker 14: to be on the same wavelengths.

1956
01:37:49,492 --> 01:37:50,253
Speaker 11: I've having a good time.

1957
01:37:50,293 --> 01:37:52,852
Speaker 14: There's no one racking up and causing trouble.

1958
01:37:52,853 --> 01:37:54,292
Speaker 18: It was a really cool experience.

1959
01:37:55,772 --> 01:37:55,932
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1960
01:37:55,973 --> 01:37:59,812
Speaker 2: I mean, I think camping is the you know, whenever

1961
01:37:59,853 --> 01:38:02,852
Speaker 2: I go camping and you're in the holiday park like

1962
01:38:02,933 --> 01:38:05,412
Speaker 2: that and you meet all the people around you. Last

1963
01:38:05,412 --> 01:38:06,492
Speaker 2: time I was doing it, last year, I was doing

1964
01:38:06,532 --> 01:38:08,812
Speaker 2: this and I was thinking billionaires would ever do this.

1965
01:38:09,452 --> 01:38:11,692
Speaker 2: But it's actually the best holiday, isn't it, Matt? Because

1966
01:38:11,732 --> 01:38:15,412
Speaker 2: you meet the people next door, You end up meeting

1967
01:38:15,492 --> 01:38:18,333
Speaker 2: people and walking around. It's a great communal experience.

1968
01:38:19,532 --> 01:38:21,333
Speaker 14: You meet people from all over the world, and it's

1969
01:38:21,412 --> 01:38:23,452
Speaker 14: really really cool, you know, because as a save runs

1970
01:38:23,452 --> 01:38:26,013
Speaker 14: on the same wavelengths of just enjoying the scenery and

1971
01:38:26,053 --> 01:38:28,492
Speaker 14: enjoying the surroundings. And yeah, the experience that we had

1972
01:38:28,532 --> 01:38:30,932
Speaker 14: and fung Annui was brilliant. The people there that around

1973
01:38:30,973 --> 01:38:33,333
Speaker 14: the place were great. We've got kids, and we're there

1974
01:38:33,372 --> 01:38:35,333
Speaker 14: with my sisters who have got kids, and they just

1975
01:38:35,492 --> 01:38:37,052
Speaker 14: basically rhams around free range.

1976
01:38:38,853 --> 01:38:39,652
Speaker 4: Yeah, a great time.

1977
01:38:39,732 --> 01:38:41,892
Speaker 3: Really sounds pretty good. I'm going to keep asking this, Matt,

1978
01:38:41,973 --> 01:38:45,133
Speaker 3: because I think it's important for me. Do they allow dogs?

1979
01:38:47,492 --> 01:38:48,973
Speaker 14: You know what, We don't have a dog, so it

1980
01:38:49,093 --> 01:38:51,053
Speaker 14: never came up. And I didn't see any dogs, so

1981
01:38:51,133 --> 01:38:53,012
Speaker 14: I couldn't say whether they do or they don't. Sorry,

1982
01:38:53,013 --> 01:38:53,692
Speaker 14: I'm not too sure.

1983
01:38:53,893 --> 01:38:56,092
Speaker 3: It's right, all right, I'll look into that. One family

1984
01:38:56,133 --> 01:38:58,532
Speaker 3: camping and wang Anui. Look, to me, that's a big thing.

1985
01:38:58,572 --> 01:39:00,532
Speaker 3: I like when you're at a camping spot and you

1986
01:39:00,612 --> 01:39:02,532
Speaker 3: get their communal experience. But if there's a couple of

1987
01:39:02,612 --> 01:39:05,772
Speaker 3: dogies running around at the same time, I freacking love that,

1988
01:39:05,893 --> 01:39:07,333
Speaker 3: it's amazing. Look, if you want to bring your cat

1989
01:39:07,372 --> 01:39:09,333
Speaker 3: as well, go for gold, but dogs and all.

1990
01:39:09,372 --> 01:39:11,093
Speaker 2: My style, I like sitting out the front of the

1991
01:39:11,173 --> 01:39:13,572
Speaker 2: tent watching people turn up, and then you watch them

1992
01:39:13,572 --> 01:39:15,013
Speaker 2: sitting up the tent. You just sit out there with

1993
01:39:15,053 --> 01:39:16,933
Speaker 2: the beer, you go, who's the neighbor is going to

1994
01:39:16,973 --> 01:39:19,972
Speaker 2: be for the next few days? These it's so interesting

1995
01:39:20,612 --> 01:39:22,013
Speaker 2: and then you go and have a chat and next

1996
01:39:22,053 --> 01:39:24,253
Speaker 2: thing you know, you're playing cricket with them. It's just

1997
01:39:24,333 --> 01:39:25,412
Speaker 2: the absolutely the best thing.

1998
01:39:25,572 --> 01:39:27,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, love it. Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty.

1999
01:39:28,053 --> 01:39:28,972
Speaker 3: Is that number two?

2000
01:39:29,173 --> 01:39:29,412
Speaker 1: Call?

2001
01:39:29,692 --> 01:39:31,452
Speaker 3: Have you left it too late to find a camping

2002
01:39:31,492 --> 01:39:34,412
Speaker 3: spot over summer? And if you've already booked one, where

2003
01:39:34,452 --> 01:39:36,013
Speaker 3: are you going? And what is it like? Love to

2004
01:39:36,053 --> 01:39:36,372
Speaker 3: hear from you.

2005
01:39:36,492 --> 01:39:39,492
Speaker 2: I've got a question. If you've got a farm saying

2006
01:39:39,532 --> 01:39:42,093
Speaker 2: you've got a paddock, can you just call that a

2007
01:39:42,173 --> 01:39:44,852
Speaker 2: campsite and people can come and camp there? Or do

2008
01:39:45,253 --> 01:39:46,333
Speaker 2: you have to get it registered?

2009
01:39:47,173 --> 01:39:48,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question.

2010
01:39:48,572 --> 01:39:50,973
Speaker 2: If you just say as is, we're as camping, so

2011
01:39:51,053 --> 01:39:53,972
Speaker 2: you're not providing any services? Can I mean might get

2012
01:39:53,973 --> 01:39:55,852
Speaker 2: a bit mucky, but can you do that?

2013
01:39:55,933 --> 01:39:56,732
Speaker 3: Who's going to stop you?

2014
01:39:56,893 --> 01:39:57,093
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2015
01:39:57,253 --> 01:39:57,452
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2016
01:39:57,732 --> 01:39:59,052
Speaker 2: What do you have to do to be a campsite?

2017
01:39:59,053 --> 01:40:00,973
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If that's you, it

2018
01:40:01,173 --> 01:40:02,333
Speaker 3: is twenty two to four.

2019
01:40:04,013 --> 01:40:08,133
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons

2020
01:40:08,492 --> 01:40:11,052
Speaker 1: Call eight hundred eighty ten eighty news talks.

2021
01:40:11,093 --> 01:40:13,452
Speaker 3: They'd be for a good afternoons. Sure, it is a

2022
01:40:13,652 --> 01:40:17,132
Speaker 3: nineteen to four and we're talking about camp spots over summer.

2023
01:40:17,412 --> 01:40:19,293
Speaker 3: If you yet to book, what do you think your

2024
01:40:19,372 --> 01:40:21,772
Speaker 3: chances are? And if you're already booked and ready to go,

2025
01:40:22,612 --> 01:40:24,973
Speaker 3: where is your camping hotspot? Love to hear from you. Oh,

2026
01:40:24,973 --> 01:40:27,732
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

2027
01:40:28,612 --> 01:40:28,812
Speaker 4: Cat?

2028
01:40:28,893 --> 01:40:29,213
Speaker 3: How are you?

2029
01:40:30,372 --> 01:40:30,572
Speaker 17: Yeah?

2030
01:40:30,652 --> 01:40:30,732
Speaker 11: Hi?

2031
01:40:30,893 --> 01:40:31,053
Speaker 18: Good?

2032
01:40:31,093 --> 01:40:31,372
Speaker 11: Thanks?

2033
01:40:31,692 --> 01:40:33,012
Speaker 3: And we're about to use Kaine.

2034
01:40:33,772 --> 01:40:38,892
Speaker 11: So Portway Keadow Holiday Park nice not too far from Auckland,

2035
01:40:39,372 --> 01:40:40,532
Speaker 11: like just out of pook.

2036
01:40:40,452 --> 01:40:44,452
Speaker 2: K And how how recently? How far out do you

2037
01:40:44,492 --> 01:40:44,973
Speaker 2: have to book that?

2038
01:40:45,093 --> 01:40:45,253
Speaker 17: Cat?

2039
01:40:47,253 --> 01:40:51,452
Speaker 11: They pretty much have space over Christmas, Like it never

2040
01:40:51,492 --> 01:40:54,412
Speaker 11: gets booked out. It's it's quite a big park and

2041
01:40:54,532 --> 01:40:57,972
Speaker 11: there always seems to be spare spots, so it might

2042
01:40:58,093 --> 01:40:59,253
Speaker 11: be one to get into.

2043
01:40:59,732 --> 01:41:03,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's got a good beach, good fishing.

2044
01:41:03,293 --> 01:41:06,772
Speaker 11: A great great surf, beach fishing, jump off the wall.

2045
01:41:07,253 --> 01:41:08,852
Speaker 5: Yeah, he hates to do how good?

2046
01:41:09,173 --> 01:41:11,253
Speaker 3: And does it get pretty full noise over summer? Is

2047
01:41:11,293 --> 01:41:12,093
Speaker 3: there a lot of people that.

2048
01:41:12,253 --> 01:41:17,452
Speaker 11: Start to you know, I mean yeah, I mean there's

2049
01:41:17,492 --> 01:41:20,452
Speaker 11: a lot of visitors over summer, but it's not a

2050
01:41:20,572 --> 01:41:26,772
Speaker 11: massive place, so it's still pretty a nice, little sleepy village.

2051
01:41:27,692 --> 01:41:30,372
Speaker 3: Nice and yeah, and you get a wea visit for

2052
01:41:30,412 --> 01:41:32,213
Speaker 3: your center as well or your lad dogs.

2053
01:41:32,572 --> 01:41:35,732
Speaker 11: Yeah and loud dogs. Yeah. Santa comes around on the

2054
01:41:35,772 --> 01:41:38,493
Speaker 11: fire truck and does a lolly scramble in the campground,

2055
01:41:38,572 --> 01:41:41,372
Speaker 11: but he goes around the whole port. He goes round

2056
01:41:41,412 --> 01:41:43,412
Speaker 11: all the streets. So it's not a very big place.

2057
01:41:43,732 --> 01:41:45,333
Speaker 2: And how long do you how long do you normally

2058
01:41:45,333 --> 01:41:46,652
Speaker 2: stay there over a break?

2059
01:41:48,253 --> 01:41:50,293
Speaker 11: I'm a teacher, so on there for the whole six weeks?

2060
01:41:50,853 --> 01:41:51,053
Speaker 9: Good?

2061
01:41:51,532 --> 01:41:52,012
Speaker 3: How good?

2062
01:41:52,732 --> 01:41:52,932
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2063
01:41:53,933 --> 01:41:56,012
Speaker 2: What's it like? Because I always find it's really weird

2064
01:41:56,013 --> 01:41:58,333
Speaker 2: when you return to back to normal civilization when you've

2065
01:41:58,492 --> 01:42:00,372
Speaker 2: been you've been camping and all you really do is

2066
01:42:00,452 --> 01:42:02,452
Speaker 2: get up, you do some stuff. You've really focused on

2067
01:42:02,492 --> 01:42:05,372
Speaker 2: the meals and sort of just living like humans are

2068
01:42:05,412 --> 01:42:07,452
Speaker 2: meant to do you find it? Do you find it

2069
01:42:07,572 --> 01:42:10,572
Speaker 2: really odd to returned to back to normal civilization after

2070
01:42:10,612 --> 01:42:11,133
Speaker 2: six weeks?

2071
01:42:11,772 --> 01:42:12,653
Speaker 11: Yeah? Absolutely?

2072
01:42:13,372 --> 01:42:15,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I'll get there is living the life though,

2073
01:42:16,053 --> 01:42:18,253
Speaker 3: six weeks in a beautiful spot like Port wait Keatto

2074
01:42:18,293 --> 01:42:18,972
Speaker 3: Holiday Park.

2075
01:42:19,532 --> 01:42:21,093
Speaker 11: Now we'll go to a little head and it's a

2076
01:42:21,133 --> 01:42:24,173
Speaker 11: little head and secret really like, I'm surprised that it

2077
01:42:24,253 --> 01:42:27,812
Speaker 11: doesn't get full up, but it doesn't seem to. So

2078
01:42:28,173 --> 01:42:31,133
Speaker 11: if someone's looking somewhere, it might be a good one

2079
01:42:31,213 --> 01:42:33,772
Speaker 11: to check out Nice because I'm pretty sure they'll still

2080
01:42:33,812 --> 01:42:34,853
Speaker 11: have bookings available.

2081
01:42:35,053 --> 01:42:36,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is great to.

2082
01:42:36,093 --> 01:42:37,732
Speaker 2: Okay port Way ketto Holiday Park.

2083
01:42:38,253 --> 01:42:41,333
Speaker 3: Nice one, Thank you very much. Kat nine two is

2084
01:42:41,412 --> 01:42:43,052
Speaker 3: the text number. But let's have a check to Darren

2085
01:42:43,053 --> 01:42:46,812
Speaker 3: get mate. How are you Darren?

2086
01:42:47,812 --> 01:42:47,972
Speaker 9: Oh?

2087
01:42:48,293 --> 01:42:48,812
Speaker 15: Good boys?

2088
01:42:48,853 --> 01:42:50,412
Speaker 3: How are you? Bloody goods?

2089
01:42:51,532 --> 01:42:55,093
Speaker 15: That's sorry, yeah, I just going up and that you've

2090
01:42:55,093 --> 01:42:58,892
Speaker 15: got abo. Our camping story. We used to camp at

2091
01:42:58,933 --> 01:43:01,653
Speaker 15: a place called Boddy Caho, which is in the curramand

2092
01:43:01,732 --> 01:43:05,253
Speaker 15: or just over there for the anger and we were

2093
01:43:05,293 --> 01:43:09,372
Speaker 15: on a farm but just jump over the internue, riding

2094
01:43:09,772 --> 01:43:14,093
Speaker 15: on the water, you know, and no facilities at all,

2095
01:43:15,293 --> 01:43:17,372
Speaker 15: so we had to take everything there.

2096
01:43:18,133 --> 01:43:19,772
Speaker 3: So how did you score that? So it's a farm

2097
01:43:19,933 --> 01:43:22,412
Speaker 3: right by the beach. Did you know the farm owner

2098
01:43:22,532 --> 01:43:24,293
Speaker 3: or what? You just knocked on a door and said, hey,

2099
01:43:24,333 --> 01:43:25,572
Speaker 3: do you mind if we park up here?

2100
01:43:27,213 --> 01:43:29,412
Speaker 15: I'm not too sure how it originally started that My

2101
01:43:29,612 --> 01:43:32,732
Speaker 15: wife's family had been camping there since she was about

2102
01:43:32,893 --> 01:43:36,572
Speaker 15: two years old, you know, so, and we're in our

2103
01:43:36,612 --> 01:43:37,572
Speaker 15: fifties now, so.

2104
01:43:39,492 --> 01:43:42,852
Speaker 3: It had been a wee while that they've been camping there,

2105
01:43:42,893 --> 01:43:45,213
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, yeah, how good. And how many of

2106
01:43:45,293 --> 01:43:47,612
Speaker 3: you set up set up shop there.

2107
01:43:49,173 --> 01:43:51,852
Speaker 15: So I've got three kids or we've got three kids,

2108
01:43:52,492 --> 01:43:57,372
Speaker 15: and we'd always have in laws and friends coming, so

2109
01:43:57,532 --> 01:44:01,732
Speaker 15: they generally be maybe eight or twelve of us have

2110
01:44:01,933 --> 01:44:05,852
Speaker 15: just depended on on her had time after, like the

2111
01:44:06,013 --> 01:44:09,293
Speaker 15: caller before. My wife's a teacher, so we would set

2112
01:44:09,412 --> 01:44:10,532
Speaker 15: up and she would.

2113
01:44:10,333 --> 01:44:14,092
Speaker 2: Be there for all of January, and there's we're finding

2114
01:44:14,133 --> 01:44:16,532
Speaker 2: out that if you're married to a teacher or your teacher,

2115
01:44:16,652 --> 01:44:18,933
Speaker 2: then you know, you can be at that campsite a

2116
01:44:19,053 --> 01:44:19,772
Speaker 2: very very long time.

2117
01:44:19,893 --> 01:44:23,932
Speaker 15: Yeah, oh, one hundred percent. I mean our three kids

2118
01:44:24,013 --> 01:44:27,693
Speaker 15: are born in October, November, and December, and our middlesn

2119
01:44:28,452 --> 01:44:32,412
Speaker 15: who was born in December, we went camping two weeks after.

2120
01:44:32,253 --> 01:44:32,973
Speaker 18: He was born, you know.

2121
01:44:33,772 --> 01:44:37,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, as your wife sitting there preparing marketing student papers

2122
01:44:37,572 --> 01:44:40,213
Speaker 2: and preparing for the next year's lessons. Well while you're

2123
01:44:40,253 --> 01:44:42,372
Speaker 2: at the campsite there, Darren.

2124
01:44:42,612 --> 01:44:44,732
Speaker 15: No, it's a holiday Maliday.

2125
01:44:45,652 --> 01:44:47,612
Speaker 3: Very honest of your mate, Thank you very much. It

2126
01:44:47,692 --> 01:44:50,732
Speaker 3: sounds blessed. What a good man O e. One hundred

2127
01:44:50,732 --> 01:44:52,253
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number of cool. Where

2128
01:44:52,253 --> 01:44:54,253
Speaker 3: are you staying over summer? Where have you booked your

2129
01:44:54,492 --> 01:44:57,093
Speaker 3: camping hotspot? Ethan? How are you?

2130
01:44:57,213 --> 01:44:57,372
Speaker 17: Man?

2131
01:44:58,173 --> 01:44:58,293
Speaker 8: Oh?

2132
01:44:58,372 --> 01:44:59,333
Speaker 19: Hey you guys, how's it going?

2133
01:44:59,652 --> 01:45:00,053
Speaker 3: Very good?

2134
01:45:00,812 --> 01:45:03,293
Speaker 19: That's good? So I thought I'd just share our favorite

2135
01:45:03,333 --> 01:45:06,093
Speaker 19: camping spot, which is foot Through Holiday Park.

2136
01:45:06,133 --> 01:45:07,412
Speaker 5: Can you put us right?

2137
01:45:08,372 --> 01:45:08,652
Speaker 11: Tell us?

2138
01:45:09,692 --> 01:45:12,372
Speaker 19: Each year the last four years we've stayed there in

2139
01:45:12,412 --> 01:45:17,932
Speaker 19: early January, have never booked in advance, probably the week before,

2140
01:45:19,652 --> 01:45:21,612
Speaker 19: and have always managed to get a good spot. It

2141
01:45:21,732 --> 01:45:25,852
Speaker 19: doesn't seem to ever completely full out, full up, and

2142
01:45:26,013 --> 01:45:28,933
Speaker 19: as a really great spot. The kids absolutely love at

2143
01:45:28,973 --> 01:45:32,692
Speaker 19: the beaches right across from the campground, massive bike track

2144
01:45:32,893 --> 01:45:36,732
Speaker 19: that goes from town up to a bridget.

2145
01:45:37,293 --> 01:45:39,093
Speaker 2: I've just looked it up. It's beautiful. Look at that.

2146
01:45:40,133 --> 01:45:42,973
Speaker 19: It's definitely our favorite spot. The kids always want to

2147
01:45:42,973 --> 01:45:44,492
Speaker 19: go about that. I wish we could stay there for

2148
01:45:44,532 --> 01:45:46,732
Speaker 19: as long as some of the teachers, for six weeks.

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01:45:47,812 --> 01:45:50,173
Speaker 19: Usually only a week for us before we get back

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01:45:50,213 --> 01:45:51,133
Speaker 19: into the are you.

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01:45:51,452 --> 01:45:53,692
Speaker 2: Are you camping or you one of in one of

2152
01:45:53,772 --> 01:45:55,972
Speaker 2: the cabins with an on suite.

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01:45:56,973 --> 01:45:59,692
Speaker 19: No, so we're camping. We've got we've got our camp

2154
01:45:59,853 --> 01:46:02,532
Speaker 19: camp set up with the inflatable tent and the warning

2155
01:46:02,612 --> 01:46:04,852
Speaker 19: on the route on the nap I reckon.

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01:46:04,732 --> 01:46:06,772
Speaker 2: One of the best parts of camping at a camping

2157
01:46:06,853 --> 01:46:10,372
Speaker 2: ground as going to you know, the shared facilities. You

2158
01:46:10,452 --> 01:46:12,772
Speaker 2: go in there, you cook, you meet people, I think

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01:46:12,812 --> 01:46:15,093
Speaker 2: all their Yeah, I think that's that's a big part

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01:46:15,133 --> 01:46:18,053
Speaker 2: of it. You know the shed, I mean the sheared shower.

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01:46:18,133 --> 01:46:20,452
Speaker 2: Is going to say that sounds sounds dodgy saying.

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01:46:20,293 --> 01:46:24,813
Speaker 3: The individual showers, but you know, it's just something.

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01:46:24,572 --> 01:46:27,452
Speaker 2: About it that your whole day becomes about, you know,

2164
01:46:27,612 --> 01:46:30,333
Speaker 2: trudging off to the showers with your stuff over your shoulder,

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01:46:30,372 --> 01:46:30,852
Speaker 2: all that kind of.

2166
01:46:30,853 --> 01:46:33,093
Speaker 3: Stuff, shared experience and back.

2167
01:46:33,572 --> 01:46:35,372
Speaker 2: Did you run a trolley to take all your stuff

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01:46:35,412 --> 01:46:36,133
Speaker 2: to the cooking area?

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01:46:36,492 --> 01:46:38,732
Speaker 19: Yes, well, well we've got a trolley for the beach,

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01:46:39,412 --> 01:46:40,372
Speaker 19: not for the cooking area.

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01:46:41,492 --> 01:46:42,732
Speaker 15: But it is helpful.

2172
01:46:43,692 --> 01:46:45,652
Speaker 2: It's going back to what it is to be a human.

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01:46:45,973 --> 01:46:48,612
Speaker 2: You know, you're around other people, you're you're you're cooking

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01:46:48,692 --> 01:46:51,732
Speaker 2: around strangers that become friends, all that kind of stuff.

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01:46:51,772 --> 01:46:52,932
Speaker 2: It's it's the best holiday.

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01:46:53,053 --> 01:46:56,053
Speaker 19: Yeah, we do feel that it just sets us up

2177
01:46:56,093 --> 01:46:58,652
Speaker 19: well for the beginning of the new year. Just kind

2178
01:46:58,692 --> 01:47:02,893
Speaker 19: of getting back to the basics with just mes and

2179
01:47:03,612 --> 01:47:05,293
Speaker 19: we come home quite rejuvenated.

2180
01:47:05,532 --> 01:47:08,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you check out the I've just seen they

2181
01:47:08,173 --> 01:47:10,333
Speaker 3: off for a glamping experience where they set up a

2182
01:47:10,372 --> 01:47:12,372
Speaker 3: canvas tent for you and have it cut it out

2183
01:47:12,412 --> 01:47:13,772
Speaker 3: ready to go. Did you look at that night?

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01:47:15,772 --> 01:47:17,013
Speaker 19: Yeah, have a too bougie for us.

2185
01:47:17,093 --> 01:47:18,452
Speaker 11: We like our little setup.

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01:47:18,692 --> 01:47:20,452
Speaker 13: Yep, yeah, we're happy with that.

2187
01:47:20,572 --> 01:47:22,972
Speaker 19: And another thing and just a new premise there at

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01:47:23,572 --> 01:47:27,173
Speaker 19: pooky Cutter Park. They do the festival lights and we

2189
01:47:27,532 --> 01:47:30,972
Speaker 19: highly recommend that for the kids each Night's on each

2190
01:47:31,093 --> 01:47:33,253
Speaker 19: night and it is quite amazing if you wanted to

2191
01:47:33,333 --> 01:47:33,772
Speaker 19: look into that.

2192
01:47:34,333 --> 01:47:37,412
Speaker 2: And there you go. There's still places at Fitzroy Beach

2193
01:47:37,492 --> 01:47:38,133
Speaker 2: Holiday Park.

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01:47:38,612 --> 01:47:41,812
Speaker 3: Get yeah, love it, Ethan, thank you, thank you very much.

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01:47:41,893 --> 01:47:44,093
Speaker 3: Man oh wait under it eighty ten eighty is that

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01:47:44,293 --> 01:47:46,253
Speaker 3: number to call if you've managed to book a camping

2197
01:47:46,333 --> 01:47:49,372
Speaker 3: spot over summer? Where are you staying and how booked

2198
01:47:49,452 --> 01:47:49,892
Speaker 3: does it get?

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01:47:50,412 --> 01:47:52,932
Speaker 2: And answering my own question because I've investigated after about

2200
01:47:52,933 --> 01:47:55,492
Speaker 2: thousand people text, you can't just set up a you

2201
01:47:55,572 --> 01:47:57,892
Speaker 2: can't just find a field and put up a sign

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01:47:57,933 --> 01:47:58,892
Speaker 2: and say it's a holiday park.

2203
01:47:59,013 --> 01:48:00,492
Speaker 3: Right, It's unfortunate, but makes sense.

2204
01:48:01,253 --> 01:48:03,372
Speaker 2: You have to have to register yourself as a holiday

2205
01:48:03,452 --> 01:48:07,852
Speaker 2: park and go through all kinds of Yeah, you need

2206
01:48:07,933 --> 01:48:09,572
Speaker 2: to you need to get We've got to get a

2207
01:48:09,612 --> 01:48:12,733
Speaker 2: certificate of registration from the local authority and comply with regulations.

2208
01:48:13,013 --> 01:48:15,452
Speaker 2: But it's a lot of Edmund having said that it's

2209
01:48:15,532 --> 01:48:16,092
Speaker 2: your field.

2210
01:48:16,452 --> 01:48:17,173
Speaker 3: He's going to stop you.

2211
01:48:17,293 --> 01:48:19,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to stop you. Yeah. Set it up,

2212
01:48:19,893 --> 01:48:23,053
Speaker 2: say Tyler's Holiday Park. Yeah, put up a sign yep,

2213
01:48:23,572 --> 01:48:28,812
Speaker 2: Tyler's Holiday Park. Gold coin on entry, no facilities, no complaints.

2214
01:48:29,053 --> 01:48:32,172
Speaker 2: If you hit yourself, you're on your own. Any problems

2215
01:48:32,213 --> 01:48:32,812
Speaker 2: called the costs.

2216
01:48:33,532 --> 01:48:35,133
Speaker 3: All right, We're going to take a few more calls

2217
01:48:35,133 --> 01:48:37,092
Speaker 3: on this one. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty

2218
01:48:37,213 --> 01:48:39,492
Speaker 3: Where are your book to stay over summer? And as

2219
01:48:39,532 --> 01:48:41,852
Speaker 3: it doesn't get fully booked out, it is eleven minutes

2220
01:48:41,893 --> 01:48:43,612
Speaker 3: before the big.

2221
01:48:43,532 --> 01:48:47,652
Speaker 1: Stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything in between.

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01:48:47,893 --> 01:48:50,852
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

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01:48:50,853 --> 01:48:54,133
Speaker 3: It'd be news talks. It'd be we have been talking

2224
01:48:54,173 --> 01:48:57,852
Speaker 3: about callin are camping hot spots over the summer. Many

2225
01:48:57,893 --> 01:48:59,452
Speaker 3: are saying that if you want to book you're out

2226
01:48:59,492 --> 01:49:01,772
Speaker 3: of luck. But a lot of ticks coming through saying

2227
01:49:01,812 --> 01:49:03,253
Speaker 3: there's plenty of spots around.

2228
01:49:03,612 --> 01:49:06,173
Speaker 2: You only have to register as a campground if you

2229
01:49:06,253 --> 01:49:09,013
Speaker 2: are charging people or saying you're providing for if you're

2230
01:49:09,013 --> 01:49:12,173
Speaker 2: allowing them to stay on your property, and or if

2231
01:49:12,213 --> 01:49:14,253
Speaker 2: they're on a fully contained caravan. That's a bit that's

2232
01:49:14,253 --> 01:49:17,293
Speaker 2: a bit different, isn't it so? But I mean, what's

2233
01:49:17,293 --> 01:49:19,173
Speaker 2: the point of starting a camp ground if you don't

2234
01:49:19,372 --> 01:49:20,932
Speaker 2: just just out of the goodness of your own heart?

2235
01:49:21,053 --> 01:49:22,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to charge money. I mean, there's no

2236
01:49:22,612 --> 01:49:24,212
Speaker 3: point just having all that plava.

2237
01:49:24,492 --> 01:49:26,532
Speaker 2: But you know, if you can't get a campground, surely

2238
01:49:26,532 --> 01:49:28,772
Speaker 2: everyone knows someone that lives really it has a bit

2239
01:49:28,812 --> 01:49:30,692
Speaker 2: of a bit of green grass that you can go

2240
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Speaker 2: and stay.

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01:49:31,412 --> 01:49:32,812
Speaker 3: Can you just suss for a gift though, if you

2242
01:49:32,893 --> 01:49:35,732
Speaker 3: just say, look, just gift what you can. But you know,

2243
01:49:36,532 --> 01:49:38,053
Speaker 3: it's kind of twenty bucks poop pop.

2244
01:49:38,293 --> 01:49:40,612
Speaker 2: Well, you just I mean, there's lots of illicit you know,

2245
01:49:41,492 --> 01:49:43,612
Speaker 2: you know, black market camping going on around the country

2246
01:49:44,013 --> 01:49:45,892
Speaker 2: where you just go up to a farmer and say,

2247
01:49:46,253 --> 01:49:47,852
Speaker 2: you know, you mind if I set up a tent

2248
01:49:47,933 --> 01:49:51,893
Speaker 2: down there, you know, and then you backhand them at fifty.

2249
01:49:51,812 --> 01:49:54,932
Speaker 3: Harveyr fish and catch with the farmer. Yeah, a couple

2250
01:49:55,013 --> 01:49:57,173
Speaker 3: of techs to before we got to wrap this up.

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01:49:57,253 --> 01:49:57,372
Speaker 9: Kid.

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01:49:57,412 --> 01:49:59,732
Speaker 3: Hey guys, I would say that Munga Foi heads north

2253
01:49:59,772 --> 01:50:03,253
Speaker 3: of Auckland. It is wonderful camping ground in front of you.

2254
01:50:03,333 --> 01:50:06,053
Speaker 3: The surf beach is around Winney. For twenty years the

2255
01:50:06,173 --> 01:50:09,253
Speaker 3: children started off our first I was three months old,

2256
01:50:09,372 --> 01:50:12,532
Speaker 3: met up with the same people every year, about twenty families. Yes,

2257
01:50:12,612 --> 01:50:13,893
Speaker 3: we booked as soon as we walked out of the

2258
01:50:13,893 --> 01:50:15,772
Speaker 3: place and jam wonderful can be ground. It's the best

2259
01:50:15,812 --> 01:50:16,253
Speaker 3: time ever.

2260
01:50:16,572 --> 01:50:19,612
Speaker 2: I love it. Groins Caravan Park. Am I saying that right?

2261
01:50:19,692 --> 01:50:23,492
Speaker 3: You are nailed it. Groin Groins, Yep, the groins well know.

2262
01:50:23,652 --> 01:50:25,973
Speaker 3: And then in christ Church we love our groins down there.

2263
01:50:26,053 --> 01:50:29,692
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right, get stuck into the groins. I

2264
01:50:29,772 --> 01:50:31,892
Speaker 2: love at Groins Caravan Park, just north of christ Church.

2265
01:50:32,133 --> 01:50:34,213
Speaker 2: Most sites of permanent sites, but there are about seven

2266
01:50:34,293 --> 01:50:37,333
Speaker 2: sites for casual campers. So many people and from around

2267
01:50:37,333 --> 01:50:39,772
Speaker 2: the world say how peaceful, clean and quiet it is

2268
01:50:39,812 --> 01:50:43,372
Speaker 2: here and a great setup, a kitchen, etcetera. Also allowed

2269
01:50:43,452 --> 01:50:46,892
Speaker 2: dogs if well controlled and on lead. No permanent children here,

2270
01:50:47,572 --> 01:50:50,492
Speaker 2: but casual campers of course can have children here. Plenty

2271
01:50:50,492 --> 01:50:54,492
Speaker 2: of walks as Groins Park and spot for children's fishing

2272
01:50:54,572 --> 01:50:58,253
Speaker 2: lakes across the road from AHS. So I mean it

2273
01:50:58,333 --> 01:51:00,772
Speaker 2: must be interesting to live permanently in a camping ground.

2274
01:51:01,772 --> 01:51:01,972
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2275
01:51:02,372 --> 01:51:04,612
Speaker 2: So if you're running a holiday park, you've got to

2276
01:51:04,652 --> 01:51:06,652
Speaker 2: make your money. You're gonna make You've got to make

2277
01:51:06,692 --> 01:51:10,012
Speaker 2: hay while the sun shines over that. I guess boxing

2278
01:51:10,133 --> 01:51:12,612
Speaker 2: day till what mid jen, that's when you're making all

2279
01:51:12,692 --> 01:51:13,052
Speaker 2: your money.

2280
01:51:13,133 --> 01:51:13,213
Speaker 10: Right.

2281
01:51:13,213 --> 01:51:14,812
Speaker 3: It's a good point though for the long stay is

2282
01:51:14,893 --> 01:51:18,893
Speaker 3: how do they feel about that massive summer influx? But

2283
01:51:19,013 --> 01:51:20,892
Speaker 3: I've got to say, mate, that's been a good discussion.

2284
01:51:20,973 --> 01:51:24,213
Speaker 3: But I'm looking forward to You've given me this canvas tent.

2285
01:51:24,572 --> 01:51:28,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I said to you, I've given you

2286
01:51:28,253 --> 01:51:31,052
Speaker 2: the I donated you the Kakapo ke We Camp.

2287
01:51:31,213 --> 01:51:33,213
Speaker 3: Beautiful tent and it's massive and it's going to be

2288
01:51:33,253 --> 01:51:34,932
Speaker 3: a mention when I set it up. But I keep

2289
01:51:35,013 --> 01:51:36,932
Speaker 3: saying to you on a nice day, and we've had

2290
01:51:36,933 --> 01:51:38,093
Speaker 3: a lot of those, I am going to sit it

2291
01:51:38,173 --> 01:51:40,412
Speaker 3: up and test it. And I haven't done that yet. Yeah,

2292
01:51:40,933 --> 01:51:42,732
Speaker 3: I trust that it's all there ready to go.

2293
01:51:42,933 --> 01:51:45,173
Speaker 2: Tyler. I've given you this tent, but I want you

2294
01:51:45,213 --> 01:51:46,772
Speaker 2: to check it before you go camping, because the last

2295
01:51:46,772 --> 01:51:48,293
Speaker 2: thing I want you you and may have to go

2296
01:51:48,372 --> 01:51:51,293
Speaker 2: away and then find out that this poll is missing

2297
01:51:51,412 --> 01:51:51,732
Speaker 2: or something.

2298
01:51:51,853 --> 01:51:53,852
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I all set it up. I mean part

2299
01:51:53,853 --> 01:51:55,532
Speaker 3: of me just wants to roll the dice and say, look,

2300
01:51:55,572 --> 01:51:57,213
Speaker 3: I think it's all there. It should be good enough.

2301
01:51:57,253 --> 01:51:59,333
Speaker 3: But rest assured, mate, I will get it up in

2302
01:51:59,372 --> 01:52:00,213
Speaker 3: the bet garden.

2303
01:52:00,253 --> 01:52:04,133
Speaker 2: Bigger pardon set up the tent, right, you pitch your tent.

2304
01:52:04,492 --> 01:52:06,692
Speaker 2: It's a huge tent though. It's a huge tent, and

2305
01:52:07,372 --> 01:52:09,213
Speaker 2: I just hope that you can book in somewhere to

2306
01:52:09,412 --> 01:52:10,452
Speaker 2: go camping with it, right.

2307
01:52:10,452 --> 01:52:11,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, thank you very much.

2308
01:52:11,812 --> 01:52:11,972
Speaker 17: Mate.

2309
01:52:12,053 --> 01:52:13,732
Speaker 3: Weighs a ton, by the way, it's going to be huge.

2310
01:52:13,812 --> 01:52:14,012
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2311
01:52:14,053 --> 01:52:15,852
Speaker 3: I don't think we can take the dog anymore because

2312
01:52:15,893 --> 01:52:17,893
Speaker 3: the tent's going to take up too much space. But

2313
01:52:17,973 --> 01:52:18,532
Speaker 3: that's fair enough.

2314
01:52:18,612 --> 01:52:21,053
Speaker 2: You book yourself, and I'd love to hear reports. I

2315
01:52:21,133 --> 01:52:22,652
Speaker 2: had a terrible black mold in it last time I

2316
01:52:22,652 --> 01:52:23,852
Speaker 2: put it up, but that don't worry about that.

2317
01:52:24,013 --> 01:52:25,612
Speaker 3: No, it's just a spray down. Let's fine.

2318
01:52:25,732 --> 01:52:28,973
Speaker 2: Just get yourself some SuDS, bit bleach, a bit of

2319
01:52:29,013 --> 01:52:31,253
Speaker 2: a couple of days scrubbing at the study holiday Friday.

2320
01:52:32,333 --> 01:52:34,012
Speaker 2: Enough of us Thank you so much for listening everyone,

2321
01:52:34,532 --> 01:52:36,293
Speaker 2: love the chat today. Thank you for all your calls

2322
01:52:36,333 --> 01:52:37,692
Speaker 2: on our eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty and

2323
01:52:37,812 --> 01:52:40,212
Speaker 2: nine two nine two. The Great and Powerful Hither Dupe

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01:52:40,333 --> 01:52:43,133
Speaker 2: Allen is up next. But right now, Tyler, why am

2325
01:52:43,173 --> 01:52:44,812
Speaker 2: I playing this song from the Big O?

2326
01:52:45,572 --> 01:52:51,932
Speaker 3: I got no idea, no idea, so Roy Orbison, Well,

2327
01:52:52,253 --> 01:52:52,572
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2328
01:52:52,772 --> 01:52:54,732
Speaker 2: It's as I drove all night.

2329
01:52:55,053 --> 01:52:55,293
Speaker 4: Ah.

2330
01:52:56,173 --> 01:52:58,213
Speaker 2: And it plays into my point that while we're looking

2331
01:52:58,253 --> 01:53:01,412
Speaker 2: into impairment by drugs and alcohol, when it comes to driving,

2332
01:53:02,013 --> 01:53:06,452
Speaker 2: also impairment due to tiredness. Yeah, I'm doing such things

2333
01:53:06,452 --> 01:53:07,293
Speaker 2: as driving all night.

2334
01:53:07,452 --> 01:53:09,612
Speaker 3: Well played, mate, something to look out for us. Well

2335
01:53:09,652 --> 01:53:10,492
Speaker 3: that is a good PSA.

2336
01:53:10,692 --> 01:53:12,933
Speaker 2: All right, you seem busy said, We'll let you go

2337
01:53:13,133 --> 01:53:15,532
Speaker 2: until tomorrow afternoon. Give them a taste of Kiwi from us,

2338
01:53:15,612 --> 01:53:16,772
Speaker 2: all right then, Love you.

2339
01:53:21,372 --> 01:53:23,933
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