1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business. Murray old Ossie corresponders with US hems, 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: very good afternoon, Heathers. Still not track this guy down, No, 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: and look, conditions are dreadful. It's raining, absolutely bucketing down 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: down there. It's very very cold. There's a cold front 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: whipping through wins, you know, strong enough to blow a 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: dog off a chain. And it really is very tough going. 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: And the follow they're looking for. I mean, you've got 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: literally hundreds of police, you got dogs, you've got helicopters, 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 1: you've got coppers on motorcycles. I dare say police on 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: horseback as well. It's that sort of country if you 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: can imagine the toughest part of the West Coast, in 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: the down South or maybe the Coramandel, and it's that dense. 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: And here's the thing. The guy they're looking for, he's 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: des philby You also known as Desi Freeman. We get 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: it because he is a man who was He's not 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: a fan of the law. He says he got sovereigns, 18 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: does not obey police, does not recognize governments. He knows 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: this country very very well. He's been living in a bus, 20 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,919 Speaker 1: very primitive, off the grid with his wife and two children. 21 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: They are accounted for. They went to see police I 22 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: think Tuesday, not a Wednesday morning. So he's been on 23 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: the run, of course ever since he shot well, the 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: allegation is that he shot dead the two police officers 25 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: and wounded a third. And he knows the area very 26 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: very well. He's a good bushman, knows the country, can 27 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: live out in the in the rough, in the field, 28 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: so that you know, this hunt will go on until 29 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: they find him. Do we know yet what the police 30 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: were turning up to talk to him about. Yes, it 31 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 1: was in relation to allegations of some sort of underage 32 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: child sexual activity. That the allegation is he was involved 33 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: with this in these sexual offenses against at least one 34 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: child under the age of sixteen. So we don't know 35 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: anything further beyond that. That's what was released, right, you know, 36 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: in the immediate aftermath of this, of this tragedy down there. 37 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it really is a hell of a shock wave, 38 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: not just through Victoria. I mean, you know, it doesn't 39 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: happen every day and day, right, the two police officers 40 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: doing their jobs get shot dead and they don't go home. 41 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: It is very, very shocking, and people have responded accordingly. 42 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: You know, to be down there in Victoria, you basically 43 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: you just can't believe what's happened. I mean, you heard 44 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: just Center Allen there. She's absolutely shocked the call. Yeah 45 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: too right now, See Britney Higgins has lost her defamationation. 46 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: She has You know, this is just a slow motion 47 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: drama that's played out of the men. She was attacked 48 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: six years ago in the office of Linda Reynolds, who 49 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: was a minister in the Morrison government. She was attacked 50 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: by Bruce Lherman, her colleague. They were both staffers for 51 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: miss Reynolds, and that was definitely proven. It was found 52 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: to the satisfaction of the Federal Court last year that yes, 53 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: she was raped by Lherman. But the the thing here 54 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: is that Britney Higgins and Brittney Higgins then alleged in 55 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: a series of social media posts that basically her boss 56 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: and the boss's chief of staff, both women, basically tried 57 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: to persuade her to play it down. The suggestion was that, 58 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: you know, look, let's not take this too far. Okay, 59 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: we've got the federal election coming up and so on. Well, 60 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: Forlinda Reyndolds, who was the Minister of the Morrison. That 61 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: was absolutely intolerable. She said, under no circumstances would I 62 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: walk away from what happened to that young woman. Never 63 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: and the same for a female chief of staff. You're kidding. 64 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: Neither of us did anything of the sword, and that's 65 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: now been proven. She sued Higgins for defamation and has 66 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: been and has been vindicated in the Supreme Court in 67 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: Western Australia. Basically, what happened, I mean Higgins was raped, yes, 68 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: and the Federal government in a one day hearing paid 69 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: her two point four million dollars is without getting any 70 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: evidence whatsoever from Senator Reynolds. And so she's now going 71 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: after the Commonwealth saying, well, hang on a second. All 72 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: that did, all that did was reinforcing the public eye, Heather, 73 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: that I'd done wrong. And what now is going to happen. 74 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: It's a minimum three hundred and thirty five thousand Australian 75 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: dollars and damages that they have to be paid by 76 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: Higgins toward too rentals, but her legal bill, Heather could 77 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: be in the order of one and a half to 78 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: two million dollars. They have to have sold their house 79 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: in France that they bought with that payout, and you know, 80 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: the saga just drags on and on and on. But 81 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: a comprehensive victory for Linda Rendols and her chief of 82 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: staff is going through a separate avenue. But she also 83 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: is going to be claiming some sort of compensation. That's 84 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: the apparently what's going to happen. Thanks for talking us 85 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: through that. It's Murray Old's Australia correspondent. For more from 86 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to news Talks. It'd 87 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on 88 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio