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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at.

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Speaker 2: Be The Naked Sarmons have been instrumental in pushing pacifica

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Speaker 2: humor into the mainstream in New Zealand. You know, they

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Speaker 2: launched a new era of sort of popular culture in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand with bro Town and the smash Its on

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Speaker 2: his wedding. And after three decades of being in the business,

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Speaker 2: the lads are still not done. The Naked Salmons are

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Speaker 2: getting back together and returning to the stage for the

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Speaker 2: International Comedy Festival, and this morning we have piled as

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Speaker 2: many of them as we possibly could into the studio.

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Speaker 2: David Chimpale, Robbie and Mario Caldokoto, welcome to the show

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Speaker 2: to see you. I reckon, I reckon, I should say

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Speaker 2: is it? What did I say? I almost said, instead

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Speaker 2: of how you doing? I think this is We've set

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Speaker 2: a record for the most number of people squeezing into

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Speaker 2: the studio, so very impressive start. It is twenty seven

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Speaker 2: years since the Naked Salmon's first show. Twenty seven years,

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Speaker 2: so who has aged the best?

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Speaker 3: I put my money on date today.

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. I think I think it's simpells right,

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Speaker 4: because New LANs have this unique ability to always look

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Speaker 4: the same as sixteen as they will when they're sixty,

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Speaker 4: and Shampelle hasn't changed one iota.

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Speaker 2: What is that about new.

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Speaker 3: Every morning, especially on these cold mornings. Oh yeah, put

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Speaker 3: to shine on.

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Speaker 2: So when I say twenty seven years, do you does

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Speaker 2: anyone have like a physical reaction where you go, that's

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Speaker 2: like that's a fair amount of time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, I suppose you don't think about it,

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Speaker 5: you know, in the twenty year one up to twenty

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Speaker 5: but looking back now, you go, holy cow, I've been

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Speaker 5: off these guys. I know these guys more than I

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Speaker 5: know my family. You know, my older brothers growing up.

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Speaker 5: I know these guys more. I've spent more time with

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Speaker 5: these guys than the eight brothers and sisters I have.

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Speaker 2: So it is that a good thing, Maria?

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Speaker 5: I actually think so.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just to.

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Speaker 2: Be there when we all thoughts the long answer.

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Speaker 6: But also one of those things like twenty seven Yes,

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Speaker 6: we only get reminded when we do things like this,

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Speaker 6: like we haven't been on stage for a very long time.

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Speaker 6: But it's just when we reconnect, it's just you know,

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Speaker 6: it's like, you know, old habits.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and you kind of fall into ye fall

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Speaker 2: into See that's interesting because I wondered over that period

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Speaker 2: of time, like the world changes, people's lives change, you

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Speaker 2: sort of go off in disparate directions. Right, Have you

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Speaker 2: noticed that your respective senses of humor have changed?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Very much.

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Speaker 4: So we're more low brown now than we ever have

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Speaker 4: been where we You know, those those kid jokes and

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Speaker 4: the ordering. You know, while I get the funnier they

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Speaker 4: seem to me, you know, there's a real depth to them.

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Speaker 2: Now, explain that. So, so you mean like just like

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Speaker 2: just kind of knocking around immature jokes that you make

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Speaker 2: and as kids, all of a sudden, actually there's kind

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's something profound and their makeup and then

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Speaker 4: you go, wow, so that's what it's about. And then

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Speaker 4: then I started laughing. But le's only because you know,

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Speaker 3: Really, sometimes it sort of depends on context. Like you think,

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Speaker 3: when you're in other circles with other people and stuff,

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Speaker 3: you think you're you know, you've developed or you've evolved,

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Speaker 2: See you think I'm all intellectual, I'm well rid it

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Speaker 2: comes down yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll.

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Speaker 3: Walk into the same room together two minutes later.

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Speaker 2: So why what why do you why why do you

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Speaker 2: want to get together on stage again? Because you've had

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Speaker 2: so many different things that you have created and performed

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Speaker 2: in over the years as a group, but actually getting

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think it's more a case of, like sometimes the

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Speaker 4: to laugh and it's okay to own that laugh. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: coping with you know, like issues. They're finding the world

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Speaker 4: and we're just adding a little reminder. Yeah, yeah, it's

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Speaker 4: okay to laugh, It's okay to be you. It's okay

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Speaker 4: to have those silly thoughts and and break out on

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Plus, we got sick of Robbie hesling. About twice a

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Speaker 3: year Robbie put this message after seven years. We thought,

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Speaker 3: oh yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: It's getting.

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Speaker 6: To my shock. To my shock, about two months ago

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Speaker 6: they I got a tics well on the group text,

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Speaker 6: I said, we're putting on a show. Seriously, we're putting

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: That made me laugh because normally yeah, man, I'm me

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Speaker 4: and I'm in Well, when are we doing it? When

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Speaker 4: we're doing it? Yeah, we're doing it?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 2: Is there a group chat?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Ah, how good? Oh my gosh, to be a fly

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Speaker 2: on the wall on that group chat. Who's who's who?

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Speaker 2: Who posts the best content in the in the group chat?

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Speaker 5: I think it's pretty much even, is it? Like?

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Speaker 2: Is it you know the world can be a bit

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Speaker 2: sensitive about certain things these days. Is it one of

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Speaker 2: those group chats that you really don't want to be

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Speaker 2: questions that you have to answer.

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Speaker 5: Or yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: It's all in the secret language of the naked. If

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Speaker 4: you can decode that, then then you were in.

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Speaker 6: Let's just say, I'm glad only theseus get to see what. Yeah, Rob,

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Speaker 6: we all have kids now, and our kids are always

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Speaker 6: kids now. Yeah, give me an.

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Speaker 2: Example of your kids telling you off.

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Speaker 6: No, it's it's example would be I would be stressing

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Speaker 6: Just think about it, like they are the adults now.

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Speaker 4: And my daughter, she's helping work on this thing by

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Speaker 4: the scenes, and we did this little segment for for

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Speaker 4: the social media and I did it and then she

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Speaker 4: this is in front of everyone, and I'm going and

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Speaker 6: Just serve some grow up muster?

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Speaker 2: So is that is that because you think that the

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Speaker 4: I don't think they're precious. I think that they're I mean,

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Speaker 4: God bless them that they're navigating a world that goes

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Speaker 4: are understanding faster the context in which things can you know,

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Speaker 4: you know, it's it's brilliant.

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Speaker 5: But then why is the room always dirty? That's what

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Speaker 5: I don't get. Yes, but the room's always doing you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. So Robbie White, why have you been why

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Speaker 2: have you been editating on the group chat? Is this

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Speaker 2: like a tax thing because you live in America? You

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Speaker 2: just you needed to get back to New Zealand something.

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Speaker 6: I was doing it, I was doing it when I

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Speaker 6: was living Yeah, okay, yeah, but it's it's just the

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Speaker 6: fun I've had, you know since I joined. I forgot

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Speaker 6: what year I came. What year did I join the oh.

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Speaker 5: Early?

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Speaker 4: About twenty four years?

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Speaker 6: Twenty four years, four years right? And I remember my

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Speaker 6: first time rehearsal with these guys. I couldn't It was

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Speaker 6: my mind was go Home had a Ball. We had

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Speaker 6: was just like I just want to hang around with

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Speaker 2: Is there any better feeling in the world than when

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Speaker 6: It was it was it bats and bats that's done

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Speaker 2: It's remarkable. So talk to us about the shaping of

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Speaker 2: the show. So, Dave, you said that your daughter has

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Speaker 2: been helping out a little bit, But how do you

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Speaker 2: you've been living overseas but you're alsort in different areas

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Speaker 4: Well, all we do is we we get together and

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Speaker 2: Who do you normally.

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Speaker 4: Myself, myself, myself, yeah, gibus myself. Why lord am I here?

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Speaker 4: Why these guys trying?

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Speaker 5: Because it always ends up the same twenty seven years

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Speaker 5: and we've always had the same or a similar workflow.

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Speaker 5: And just to circle back to your question before, why

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Speaker 5: do we do this? The it has always been a

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Speaker 5: safe place for us, a happy place for us. And yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know, we've got to you know, we do different

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Speaker 5: things in our everyday lives, but when we get a

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Speaker 5: chance to come back together and play, we've we've loved

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Speaker 5: it every time. So we just dropped. We just dropped again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I feel like one of the real pleasures of having

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Speaker 2: that the audience is going to be a mix of

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Speaker 2: people who remember twenty seven years ago, but also yeah,

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Speaker 2: but like, yeah, the kids all you know, they're going

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Speaker 2: to be this whole kind of new generation who will

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Speaker 2: be familiar with your work in different places, but but

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Speaker 2: probably you know, might not have seen you on stage

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Speaker 2: together before, which is like, that's so nice to think

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Speaker 2: that you've gotten kind of new minds to you.

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Speaker 1: To corrupt.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, new minds corrupted.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so sorry, I was going to say, it's

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Speaker 5: and I feel like I've got I've got a bit

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Speaker 5: was this guy does that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Another one? Did you do your kids find you funny?

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Speaker 5: Man? This is that kids are a tough audience, These teens,

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Speaker 5: I actually think our humans. You know, he thinks, oh man,

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Speaker 5: you guys are so dry. But you know when I

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Speaker 5: Half of them do. So it's sort of like a

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Speaker 5: But you know, sometimes he finds me funny, but a

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Speaker 5: lot of times he finds me Dad, that's so dry man,

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Speaker 5: you and your mates?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the stage.

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Speaker 6: What's what is the GenZ for? It's dry? Is it dry?

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Speaker 6: Is it is.

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Speaker 5: Just cr cringe? Cringe?

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Speaker 2: Is it cringe?

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Speaker 2: I'm told. Okay, so give us the pitch what can

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Speaker 4: Absolute rubbish? There you go, Oh what did I just say?

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Speaker 4: And what did I just experience? But what you'll get

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Speaker 4: some real community.

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Speaker 5: Jack.

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Speaker 6: Once we finished the script, it'll be magical, nice.

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Speaker 3: And it'll be it'll be it'll be six or six

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Speaker 3: to play, to play together again on stage.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that'll be.

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Speaker 4: You know, this is that sense of play, really, that

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Speaker 4: that keeps us there for twenty seven years. It's like

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Speaker 4: too often you're so caught up with being serious said

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Speaker 4: or it's not that much play, you know, come play

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Speaker 4: with us. Yeah, but in a good way. Yeah, not

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Speaker 4: on a bad way. I don't we played with in

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Speaker 5: There will be many shows and audiences will be looking

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Speaker 5: for this, especially in these trying times, So be looking

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Speaker 5: for confident security. We're all we can offer is danger.

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Speaker 2: And mystery. Well, yeah, that you guys are back on

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Speaker 2: stage together, it is fantastic news. And I know, I

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Speaker 2: know so many naked Salmon fans, whether they be fans

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Speaker 2: will be thrilled to see you guys on stage. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for coming in, Thanks for having us

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Speaker 2: David Champa, Robbie and Mario or the naked salm Owens there.

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Speaker 2: They've actually completely get this. They've completely sold out at

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Speaker 2: the Herald Theater this week is part of the New

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Speaker 2: Zealand International Comedy Festival, but they have added a special

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Speaker 2: show at Q Theater, Auckland on Wednesday, May twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: If you missed outs, you can go to Comedy Festival

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Speaker 2: dot co dot NZED for all of the details.

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