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Speaker 1: Richard Arnold, good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Now we got a deal, but who's agreed to?

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Speaker 1: What were why win and have?

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Speaker 3: Well let me start with the military side, so we

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Speaker 3: can you call it a peace process when Putin has

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Speaker 3: just blitzed the Ukrainian capital of Kiev with more than

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Speaker 3: five hundred missiles and drones through the night in a

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Speaker 3: barrow that went on for more than six hours.

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Speaker 1: That certainly caught people's attention. There.

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Speaker 3: Two residential towers have been hit, along with power stations.

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Speaker 3: At least seven people have been killed and the damage

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Speaker 3: to buildings and systems extensive. Seven of Kiev's main districts

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Speaker 3: now are having power disruptions, so it is brutal. What

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Speaker 3: is happening on the diplomatic side is that the US

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Speaker 3: Army Secretary Dan Driscoll, who was part of the talks

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Speaker 3: earlier this week in Geneva with the Europeans and Ukrainians,

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Speaker 3: now has gone off to Abadhabi and the UAE, the

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Speaker 3: head of Ukrainian intel also is there, and there was

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Speaker 3: a chance they say that they could meet with Russian

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Speaker 3: officials as well, and that Lensky might turn up in

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Speaker 3: Washington soon. So how is this to be assessed? Have

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Speaker 3: the Russian shifted in any aspect. Here's what their foreign

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Speaker 3: minister Lavov is saying.

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Speaker 2: We have tunnels of communication with American colleagues and they

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Speaker 2: are being used, and we are awaiting their version, which

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Speaker 2: they consider an interim version, in terms of completing the

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Speaker 2: phase of coordinating this text with the Europeans and Ukrainians.

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Speaker 2: Then we will see, because if the spirit and letter

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Speaker 2: of anchorage are lost in the key understandings we have documented,

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Speaker 2: then of course the situation will be fundamentally different.

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Speaker 3: Well, the so called spirit of anchorage is that Putin

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Speaker 3: wasn't giving an inch, and it appears that several of

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Speaker 3: the key issues still have been set aside, including the

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Speaker 3: new territorial boundaries as signement, ongoing Ukrainian military and the

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Speaker 3: most ban on NATO troops inside Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: So that's a number of it, really, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Meantime, Marco Rubio, the U Eberseecutive State, has been pretty active.

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Speaker 3: Trump deadline of Ukrainian deal by this Friday or else

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Speaker 3: has been set aside. The initial negotiating program of twenty

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Speaker 3: eight points, mostly laid out by Russia, has been trimmed

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Speaker 3: back to nineteen points. What they are they're not spelling

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Speaker 3: out while Ukraine is trying to keep in favor with

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Speaker 3: Trump by saying they are ready to deal with Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: Zelenski says as well, un legal recognition for what he

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Speaker 1: has solid.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not clear that has changed, right, And then we

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Speaker 3: come to the Pentagon, who were it's a formal reviewer,

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Speaker 3: I think is the official term into Mark Kelly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we'll see.

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Speaker 3: It is ongoing the Trump revenge campaign against his political foes.

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Speaker 3: The latest target, yes, is the military hero, former astronaut

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Speaker 3: now Senator Mark Kelly. He is responding to trump assertions

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Speaker 3: that he should be executed for saying in a video.

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Speaker 1: That US troops should refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 3: Well, the White House begets that word illegal when they're responding,

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Speaker 3: but that is simply the law. Why the senator thought

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Speaker 3: it was a brilliant idea to put it in a

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Speaker 3: video as a bort of speculation. But the Pentagon now

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Speaker 3: is investigating Kelly for possible military breaches, Senator Kelly saying,

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Speaker 3: this is just intimidation.

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Speaker 4: I said something that was pretty simple and non controversial,

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Speaker 4: and that was that members of the military should follow

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Speaker 4: the law. And in response to that, Donald Trump said

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Speaker 4: I should be executed. I should be hanged.

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Speaker 3: All this seems to be just diversions. As Killy says.

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Speaker 4: Also, I've had a missile blow up next to my airplane.

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Speaker 4: I've been shot down, nearly shot down multiple times. I've

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Speaker 4: flown a rocket ship into space four times, built by

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Speaker 4: the lowest bidder. And my wife, Gabby Gifford's meeting with

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Speaker 4: their constituents shot in the head, six people killed around her,

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Speaker 4: a horrific thing. She spent six months in the hospital.

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Speaker 4: We know what political violence is and we know what

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Speaker 4: causes it too. You know, the statements that Donald Trump

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Speaker 4: made is insightful, incites others. He's got millions of supporters.

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Speaker 4: People listen to what he says more so than anybody

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Speaker 4: else in the country, and he should be careful with

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Speaker 4: his words.

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Speaker 1: So turn it down. Good luck with that.

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