1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,453 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,453 --> 00:00:14,653 Speaker 2: That'd be it was such sad news. A twelve year 4 00:00:14,693 --> 00:00:19,053 Speaker 2: old Sarmon boy died in Auckland Starship Hospital last week 5 00:00:19,093 --> 00:00:22,093 Speaker 2: after contracting dingy fever. So he'd been really sick in 6 00:00:22,173 --> 00:00:25,453 Speaker 2: some more and then was transferred to New Zealand. But yeah, 7 00:00:25,453 --> 00:00:28,013 Speaker 2: someone media confirmed I think a day after he was 8 00:00:28,013 --> 00:00:30,653 Speaker 2: flown to New Zealand that he had died. So we 9 00:00:30,693 --> 00:00:32,853 Speaker 2: want to know a bit more about dingy fever and 10 00:00:32,893 --> 00:00:34,653 Speaker 2: the kind of risk that it can present in this 11 00:00:34,773 --> 00:00:36,973 Speaker 2: part of the world. Doctor Brian Betty is here with 12 00:00:37,053 --> 00:00:39,293 Speaker 2: us this morning. Kilder Brian, thank you for being with us. 13 00:00:40,373 --> 00:00:40,453 Speaker 3: Ja. 14 00:00:40,653 --> 00:00:42,453 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean obviously this is a really you know, 15 00:00:42,693 --> 00:00:45,533 Speaker 2: really sad case, just just twelve years old. But for 16 00:00:45,933 --> 00:00:48,813 Speaker 2: those who don't know anything about dingy fever, what actually 17 00:00:48,853 --> 00:00:49,093 Speaker 2: is it? 18 00:00:50,573 --> 00:00:52,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, look at something we do need to be 19 00:00:52,333 --> 00:00:55,093 Speaker 3: aware of because we often travel to the Pacific Islands 20 00:00:55,213 --> 00:00:58,853 Speaker 3: and so it's a mosquito spread virus, so you get 21 00:00:58,893 --> 00:01:02,493 Speaker 3: it from mosquito bites. So when you get bitten, dingy 22 00:01:02,493 --> 00:01:05,573 Speaker 3: fever can happen if that mosquito is infected with dingy fever. 23 00:01:06,373 --> 00:01:10,133 Speaker 3: Now it occurs with the small mosquitos that occur during 24 00:01:10,213 --> 00:01:12,773 Speaker 3: daylight or fly around during the day. Now, this is 25 00:01:13,093 --> 00:01:17,093 Speaker 3: very different from mosquitos that cause malaria, which occur early 26 00:01:17,213 --> 00:01:20,253 Speaker 3: morning or early evening, So it's a daytime mosquito that 27 00:01:20,373 --> 00:01:23,573 Speaker 3: actually causes the problem. Now we know it's endemic in 28 00:01:23,613 --> 00:01:26,093 Speaker 3: the Pacific Islands, so it tends to float around the 29 00:01:26,133 --> 00:01:28,773 Speaker 3: Pacific Islands and every two to five years it tends 30 00:01:28,813 --> 00:01:30,773 Speaker 3: to be a major outbreak of it, and that's actually 31 00:01:30,813 --> 00:01:34,613 Speaker 3: happening at the moment. It's Samoa tolerant Fiji in particular. 32 00:01:35,373 --> 00:01:37,773 Speaker 3: Now it is becoming more common around the world with 33 00:01:37,853 --> 00:01:40,733 Speaker 3: climate change. This is what's really interesting and not talked 34 00:01:40,733 --> 00:01:43,453 Speaker 3: about at the moment. So we've seen it in more 35 00:01:43,573 --> 00:01:45,533 Speaker 3: parts of the world. In fact, you can actually get 36 00:01:45,573 --> 00:01:52,093 Speaker 3: to North Queensland now and as temperatures become warmer, more humid, 37 00:01:52,173 --> 00:01:54,893 Speaker 3: mosquitos tend to spread. Dingy fever tends to spread, and 38 00:01:54,933 --> 00:01:56,853 Speaker 3: there's about four and a half million cases a year 39 00:01:56,853 --> 00:01:59,373 Speaker 3: around the world at the moment. Now the question has 40 00:01:59,373 --> 00:02:01,933 Speaker 3: could have reached New Zealand one day with climate change? 41 00:02:01,973 --> 00:02:04,413 Speaker 3: The answer is actually yes, and it's probably one of 42 00:02:04,413 --> 00:02:06,173 Speaker 3: the things we don't talk about enough in terms of 43 00:02:06,173 --> 00:02:09,173 Speaker 3: the spread of these types of diseases. So, yeah, endemic 44 00:02:09,213 --> 00:02:12,573 Speaker 3: in the Pacific. It's certainly an issue at the moment 45 00:02:12,813 --> 00:02:15,173 Speaker 3: which has led to this very tragic outcome. 46 00:02:15,373 --> 00:02:17,773 Speaker 2: So what happens if you've bitten by a mosquito that 47 00:02:17,853 --> 00:02:19,453 Speaker 2: has FEV? Do you automatically? 48 00:02:20,813 --> 00:02:23,693 Speaker 3: Well, not always. Now, it can be asymptomatic and some 49 00:02:23,693 --> 00:02:27,333 Speaker 3: people can get very mild illness. But what can happen 50 00:02:27,453 --> 00:02:30,173 Speaker 3: is is generally the infectional start to show itself four 51 00:02:30,213 --> 00:02:34,053 Speaker 3: to ten days after the mosquito bite. Now, the typical 52 00:02:34,173 --> 00:02:39,333 Speaker 3: symptoms are very high fever, severe headache, often pain between 53 00:02:39,333 --> 00:02:42,053 Speaker 3: the eyes, and very severe muscle or joint pain. And 54 00:02:42,093 --> 00:02:45,533 Speaker 3: colloquially it's been referred to as break bone fever. Some 55 00:02:45,613 --> 00:02:47,693 Speaker 3: of your listers may have heard of that phrase before, 56 00:02:48,413 --> 00:02:51,133 Speaker 3: and it can cause nausea and vomiting, the skin rash. Now, 57 00:02:51,213 --> 00:02:54,333 Speaker 3: typically it will get to better, get improved, and get 58 00:02:54,373 --> 00:02:58,013 Speaker 3: better after one to two weeks. Now, however, there is 59 00:02:58,053 --> 00:03:02,333 Speaker 3: a very severe form of it called dingy hemorrhagic fever. Now, 60 00:03:02,373 --> 00:03:06,093 Speaker 3: this typically occurs after the second infection, so you've been 61 00:03:06,133 --> 00:03:10,053 Speaker 3: acted once. What happens the immune system gets very primed 62 00:03:10,173 --> 00:03:12,933 Speaker 3: to the dingy fever. You get a second bite in 63 00:03:12,973 --> 00:03:16,133 Speaker 3: the second infection, and the immune system overreacts to it 64 00:03:16,173 --> 00:03:19,253 Speaker 3: and you get this very dangerous condition called hemorrhagic dingy fever, 65 00:03:19,853 --> 00:03:24,733 Speaker 3: and that can lead to very severe complications and in 66 00:03:24,733 --> 00:03:27,893 Speaker 3: some cases death. So yes, the second one that can 67 00:03:27,933 --> 00:03:30,533 Speaker 3: often be a real real problem if you get bitten. 68 00:03:30,773 --> 00:03:35,333 Speaker 2: So there's no vaccine to prevent the disease. What do 69 00:03:35,373 --> 00:03:36,413 Speaker 2: you do? How do you treat it? 70 00:03:36,733 --> 00:03:39,493 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, so this is really important. So no, there 71 00:03:39,533 --> 00:03:41,453 Speaker 3: is no vaccine that you can prevent it, So you 72 00:03:41,493 --> 00:03:43,293 Speaker 3: can't go and see your doctor and get a vaccine 73 00:03:43,333 --> 00:03:46,813 Speaker 3: to prevent it. Bengy fever, there's no treatment, so there's 74 00:03:46,813 --> 00:03:50,053 Speaker 3: no antiviral treatment. So the only treatment that's available is 75 00:03:50,093 --> 00:03:53,653 Speaker 3: really supportive. So in mild cases, it's things like paracetamol, 76 00:03:53,813 --> 00:03:57,933 Speaker 3: plenty of fluids, and bed rest, and the majority will 77 00:03:57,933 --> 00:04:02,973 Speaker 3: slowly get better. However, if the symptoms get very severe, 78 00:04:03,093 --> 00:04:05,773 Speaker 3: you end up seeing a doctor, and in severe cases 79 00:04:05,813 --> 00:04:08,373 Speaker 3: you'll end up in hospital for supportive treatment things like 80 00:04:08,533 --> 00:04:12,053 Speaker 3: fluids and oxygen and sometimes I see you and things. 81 00:04:12,093 --> 00:04:14,813 Speaker 3: So yeah, no treatment, and that's actually a very very 82 00:04:14,813 --> 00:04:17,093 Speaker 3: important thing to realize about. Dingky fever. 83 00:04:17,333 --> 00:04:18,813 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you've just got to prevent it. How do 84 00:04:18,853 --> 00:04:19,333 Speaker 2: you do that? 85 00:04:20,133 --> 00:04:23,053 Speaker 3: Prevention is actually the way to go. So so look, 86 00:04:23,053 --> 00:04:24,653 Speaker 3: I mean, look, if you are traveling to the sub 87 00:04:24,733 --> 00:04:26,973 Speaker 3: islands and you're going to one of the resorts and things, 88 00:04:27,173 --> 00:04:30,213 Speaker 3: the rual resorts are very good at sort of keeping 89 00:04:30,213 --> 00:04:33,413 Speaker 3: mosquitos away. So they treat the grass, the areas, no 90 00:04:33,493 --> 00:04:35,213 Speaker 3: stagnant water, They do a whole lot of things to 91 00:04:35,213 --> 00:04:38,373 Speaker 3: prevent mosquitos. So it doesn't tend to be a problem. 92 00:04:38,853 --> 00:04:42,693 Speaker 3: It's going outside of the resorts into two areas where 93 00:04:42,733 --> 00:04:44,813 Speaker 3: mosquitos could be about that there is an issue. So 94 00:04:44,853 --> 00:04:48,493 Speaker 3: you have to protect yourself. So that's things like insect repellents, 95 00:04:48,933 --> 00:04:52,373 Speaker 3: especially repellents with something called deep in them, which which 96 00:04:52,413 --> 00:04:57,733 Speaker 3: stops the mosquitos. Long sleeve you know, tops or pants 97 00:04:57,733 --> 00:05:00,653 Speaker 3: are really really important, and during the day actually mosquito 98 00:05:00,773 --> 00:05:03,853 Speaker 3: yets if you're in those areas. So it's prevention and 99 00:05:03,893 --> 00:05:06,093 Speaker 3: mosquito bites are the only thing you can do, and 100 00:05:06,173 --> 00:05:07,373 Speaker 3: that's you need to be aware of. 101 00:05:07,573 --> 00:05:10,173 Speaker 2: Hey, thanks, Brian, I appreciate your time here. Yeah, it's 102 00:05:10,173 --> 00:05:12,493 Speaker 2: some that is fascinating and you know, it could become 103 00:05:12,653 --> 00:05:14,813 Speaker 2: even more of an issue in years to come in 104 00:05:14,853 --> 00:05:17,453 Speaker 2: New Zealand of all places, which is yeah, I concerned. 105 00:05:17,733 --> 00:05:19,973 Speaker 2: I am. There's doctor Brian Betty with us this morning. 106 00:05:20,533 --> 00:05:23,613 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, Listen live 107 00:05:23,733 --> 00:05:26,533 Speaker 1: to News Talks ed b from nine am Saturday, or 108 00:05:26,613 --> 00:05:28,533 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio