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Speaker 1: It was civil. That's the word that keeps popping up.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty thoughtful. Actually, it was focused

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Speaker 1: for the most part on policy. It was frankly a

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Speaker 1: novel experience to be watching a modern US political debate

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Speaker 1: that didn't immediately descend into petty name calling, insults, conspiracy theories, hyperbole, lies, etc.

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Speaker 1: I thought jd Vance was much better than Tim Waltz.

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Speaker 1: If these things are to be scored, I know everyone

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Speaker 1: always wants a winner and a loser. It was simple

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Speaker 1: for me then jd Vance was the winner. He didn't

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Speaker 1: throw around insults in the same way that he has

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Speaker 1: on the campaign trail, which I thought was an interesting

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Speaker 1: strategic approach, and I just thought he did a really

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Speaker 1: good job of presenting as smart and reasonable and as

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Speaker 1: a steady partner of a more chaotic running mate. I

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Speaker 1: also thought there were moments in the vice presidential debate

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Speaker 1: in which he was humane or came across as humane

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Speaker 1: in a way that Donald Trump never really does. Tim

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Speaker 1: Waltz at one point was talking about how his seventeen

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Speaker 1: year old had witnessed a shooting, and JD. Vance looked

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Speaker 1: at him, let him speak, and immediately responded in a

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Speaker 1: really decent way. He said, I didn't know. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know about this. I'm really sorry that your child had

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Speaker 1: to experience that. You know, for the most part, I

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Speaker 1: don't reckon Tim Watz was terrible. You know. He made

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Speaker 1: a bit of a weird gaff where it sounded as

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Speaker 1: though he kind of said something about becoming friends with

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Speaker 1: school shooters, like he obviously just got his words confused.

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Speaker 1: But that was a bit weird. And then there was

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Speaker 1: some stuff around some comments he'd made suggesting he'd been

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Speaker 1: living in Hong Kong at the same time as Tieneman

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Speaker 1: Square that turned out not to be true. And I

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Speaker 1: just didn't think he looked as fresh. He certainly wasn't

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Speaker 1: hisself as sured, and he certainly wasn't as slick as

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Speaker 1: Jade Vance. His best moment was directly turning to Vance

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Speaker 1: and asking if Vance believed Donald Trump won the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty election, and of course Jads immediately did that classic

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Speaker 1: politician answer and said, you know, I'm focused on the future,

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Speaker 1: So what does it mean for the race? Are not heaps?

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Speaker 1: I think there was probably more to lose tonight for

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Speaker 1: the respective campaigns than there was to win. You know,

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Speaker 1: it might translate to a we we bump and support

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Speaker 1: maybe a few more voters suring up their decisions. But

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Speaker 1: more than anything I reckon for Team Trump. It is

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Speaker 1: probably the first bit of momentum in the right direction

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Speaker 1: that that campaign has enjoyed for the best part of

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