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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can try to ask the questions,

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Speaker 1: you get the answers, find a fag sack and give

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Speaker 1: the analysis. Heather duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand

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Speaker 1: and the power of satellite mobile news talks.

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Speaker 2: There be Afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show. Coming up today, the PPTA on

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Speaker 3: why there is a shortage of secondary teachers and the

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Speaker 3: gloss of primary teachers. We're going to go to the

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Speaker 3: US for a take on the Netflix Warner Brothers deal

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Speaker 3: collapsing and Sir Richard Taylor on winning a big.

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Speaker 4: Award than Heather duplicy Ellen.

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Speaker 3: How we have them wrong? But it seems to me

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Speaker 3: that every single year that the Anglican Church in this

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Speaker 3: country allows to pass without getting on and repairing the

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Speaker 3: christ Church Cathedral is a year that the public care

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Speaker 3: less about repairing it than they did before. Yet again

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Speaker 3: the Anglicans are asking for money to fix the thing.

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Speaker 3: They asked the government you might recall for sixty million

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Speaker 3: dollars eighteen months ago. They got to know, so this

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Speaker 3: time they're now targeting the christ Church rate payers. They

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Speaker 3: say they've stopped any meaningful fundraising and they're asking rate

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Speaker 3: payers to plug the gap. The funding gap is about

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Speaker 3: forty five million dollars. Potentially, this is going to go

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Speaker 3: out to consultation with rate payers. If ratepayers say yes,

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Speaker 3: it will be an added cost to the rates. So

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Speaker 3: whatever the rates are right now, you can add that

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Speaker 3: cost on top. I don't rate the Anglicans' chances here

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Speaker 3: because rates in christ Church, like everywhere around the country,

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Speaker 3: are at record highs, and in christ Church they're proposed

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Speaker 3: to go up another eight percent this year, and that's

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Speaker 3: on top of the fact that the Cranterbury Museum has

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Speaker 3: also just asked for another two hundred and sixty million

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Speaker 3: dollars to pay for it's rebuilt, so there's a shortage

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Speaker 3: of money. I have to say, I still find it,

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Speaker 3: like I did eighteen months ago, slightly cheeky from the

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Speaker 3: Anglicans to be doing this, because they own three billion

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Speaker 3: dollars worth of assets in this country alone, and that

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Speaker 3: last count that was done on their assets was six

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Speaker 3: years ago, so I would say, given inflation, they probably

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Speaker 3: own more. There is enough there to pay for the

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Speaker 3: entire reconstruction of the cathedral, not just the first stage

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Speaker 3: they're talking about at the moment. Every year I reckon

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Speaker 3: that the Anglicans spend trying to find someone else to

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Speaker 3: pay for the restoration of their church. I reckon public

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Speaker 3: appetite to restore it must surely diminish, because every year

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Speaker 3: that goes by, there are more new venues opening up

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Speaker 3: in christ Church, whether that's small like restaurants or bars,

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Speaker 3: the new stadium. Christ Church is rebuilding. It's becoming increasingly beautiful,

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Speaker 3: it's becoming increasingly fun. And I know the cathedral can't

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Speaker 3: be replaced by a stadium or a convention center or

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Speaker 3: a shop. I realize it has a special place for

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Speaker 3: christ Church, but the Anglicans are at risk of that

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Speaker 3: being diluted every single time a new special place opens up.

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Speaker 4: For ever duper c Ellen, let me know what you putting.

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Speaker 3: Nine two nine two is the text number. Standard text

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Speaker 3: fees apply now. Our chat with Air New Zealand CEO

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Speaker 3: Nickel Ravashanka was interesting last night, especially when we got

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Speaker 3: to the issue of cutting unprofitable regional roots.

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Speaker 4: We're reviewing all parts of the business.

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Speaker 3: Does that mean you're reviewing roots?

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Speaker 4: We are?

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Speaker 3: Would you if you found that there are roots that

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Speaker 3: are unprofitable? Do you want to cut them.

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Speaker 5: That we do that as general course of business all

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Speaker 5: the time, and we'll continue to keep doing that.

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Speaker 3: James Meager is the Associate Minister of Transport who was

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Speaker 3: in charge of the aviation set down with us. Now,

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Speaker 3: Hi James, afternoon, Heather. Which routes are they looking at

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Speaker 3: with a view to cutting.

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Speaker 6: I've got no idea, But that wasn't my favorite part

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Speaker 3: I have to say, what was your favorite part?

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Speaker 6: Well, it was the chat about po emojis later on,

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Speaker 6: But in terms of that interview, look, I understand nicols

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Speaker 3: What are the other decisions that they could make?

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Speaker 6: I think looking what Nichol's doing and looking at how

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Speaker 3: Are you talking about the system that they've set up.

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Speaker 3: Was it with air Chathams where they can check in

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Speaker 6: Their interlinings is one option of how they could work

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Speaker 6: closely with regional airlines. And actually we've put forward some

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Speaker 6: of your taxpay dollars in to help them support the

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Speaker 6: if we're looking at making sure we strengthen regional routes,

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Speaker 6: that is hopefully an option they are looking at, and

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Speaker 6: I would extend that to other airlines who are interested

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm under the impression somebody has alluded me

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Speaker 3: the one servicing it is that what's going on here?

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Speaker 6: That could be the case from memory, there aren't too

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Speaker 6: the flight to my hometown in Timaru is only in

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Speaker 3: So, James, what if others were encouraged to pick up

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so it's a possibility. What we really

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Speaker 6: If that's Chathams or Sound's Ere or Origin or any

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Speaker 6: I'm sure the public would be open to that.

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Speaker 3: Is this why they actually went hard on this interline thing.

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Speaker 3: Is this why we've pumped money into it to allow

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Speaker 6: It's possibly part of their long term strategy, but I

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Speaker 6: think they were considering these kind of arrangements before COVID

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Speaker 6: they were looking at interlining and almost got it across

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Speaker 6: the line. But of course COVID changed the nature of everything,

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Speaker 6: they can I guess share the log with other regional airlines.

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Speaker 6: But look, if interlining is a way that we can

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Speaker 6: that too.

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Speaker 7: Cool.

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Speaker 3: Do you have to give it a sign off or

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Speaker 3: is this not something that goes to a mysterial level.

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Speaker 6: No, No, these are basically entirely commercial decisions for anything

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Speaker 6: So we'll make sure we provide them support with their

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Speaker 6: But other than that, these are commercial decisions.

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Speaker 3: For what are you hearing about the New York Croup?

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Speaker 3: Are they going to shut that down?

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Speaker 6: Haven't heard anything on that. No, And I would hope

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Speaker 6: You know, we're putting a lot of focus on tourism.

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Speaker 6: I would hope that we can maintain and grow those

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Speaker 3: Good stuff, man, Thank you for listening. I'm glad you

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Speaker 3: enjoyed the poo emoji chat quite as much as I

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Speaker 3: enjoyed it. James Meaga, Associate Minister of Transport and Charge

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Speaker 3: pay rise in a promotion? When Chris Luxon gets around

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Speaker 3: to that reshuffle, Keep an eye by the way on

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Speaker 3: this business with the interline, because at the time we

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Speaker 3: some punter in New York can check the baggage all

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Speaker 3: just leave it to the smaller carriers to do it. Now.

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Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton's deposition to Congress about Jeffrey Epstein had to

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Speaker 3: You don't see a lot. You see her wearing a

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Speaker 3: blue bay blazer, sitting behind a white table, but it's

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Speaker 3: against the rules. They had to stop it and figure

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Speaker 3: out who the culprit was. Dan Mitchison will be with

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Speaker 3: us out of the US in about half an hour's time.

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Speaker 3: Talk us through at sixteen past four.

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Speaker 3: You have to remember the Anglicans didn't want to restore

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Speaker 3: something new. It was Philip Burdon and Jermandertan and the

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Speaker 3: So what are you expecting from the Crusaders.

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Speaker 3: Some cricket tragics will for that.

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Speaker 10: Hey what are you up for?

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Speaker 8: By the way, Aukland left Centermorrow played Melbourne City Premiers

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Speaker 3: A go media, Piney, great to talk to you, it

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Speaker 4: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the Mike Asking Breakfast.

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Speaker 11: The New Zealand's losing money forty million for the six

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Speaker 11: If you had all your engines and all your planes,

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Speaker 5: Make could be a ninety million better.

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Speaker 11: You still don't seem to be making the sort of

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Speaker 5: Yes, domestic is half our business.

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Speaker 11: MAC Monday from six am The Mic Asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 4: Cutting through the noise to get the facts.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather Duper Clan drive with one New Zealand coverage

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Speaker 3: I think this is remarkable, by the way, I don't

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Speaker 3: So what's going to happen here When David and Larry

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Speaker 4: Said, be only.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what if Benedict's story on TV and

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 3: Apparently we haven't got enough secondary teachers in this country.

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Speaker 3: The shortage. We knew there would be a shortage. The

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Speaker 3: The question is why now, I'm going to ask the

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Speaker 3: So if you're a teacher and you have the option,

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Speaker 3: choose one. Aren't you just going to choose primary because

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Speaker 3: the PPETA can shed light on it when they're with

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on youth dogs, they'd be drive.

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Speaker 3: So Hillary Clinton has spoken to the Congressional committee investigating

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Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein. The meeting was behind closed doors, but that

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Speaker 3: association with Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 10: I never went to his island.

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Speaker 12: I never went to his homes, I never went.

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Speaker 10: To his offices. So it's on the record numerous times.

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Speaker 3: There have been protests outside the Northern Territory Parliament in

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Speaker 13: This is an impungement on our rights to come here

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Speaker 3: And finally, New York Governor Kathy Hokel has overruled the

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Speaker 3: Department of Motor Vehicles in order to approve a personalized plate.

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Speaker 3: The plate that the person wanted read letter P, letter

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Speaker 3: B numeral four we go, as in P before we go,

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Speaker 3: It's also election.

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Speaker 1: Yet for her International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance,

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Speaker 1: Peace of Mind for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 3: Dan Massenson, US correspondent and with US Now Hi Dan, Hi, Heather,

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Speaker 3: Why were they asking Hillary Clinton about UFOs and Pizzagate?

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Speaker 14: She was wondering the same thing too. She just wanted

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Speaker 14: to get back on track and said, you know, I

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Speaker 14: don't know anything about this. There is nothing that I

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Speaker 14: can tell you. She said, what they need to do,

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Speaker 14: this group needs to get to the bottom of the

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Speaker 14: allegations about Donald Trump. So she tried to sort of

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Speaker 14: switch the the well, try to deflected it onto her.

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Speaker 14: But I'll tell you it wasn't easy getting her or

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Speaker 14: her husband, former President Clinton, and he's going to give

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Speaker 14: his remarks tomorrow. Both that said, ah, we're not going

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Speaker 14: to speak. They were finally coerced when a number of

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Speaker 14: Democrats joined the Republicans and demanding their testimony. But again,

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Speaker 14: I don't think we're going to have any bombs coming

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Speaker 14: out of this.

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Speaker 3: No, it doesn't sound like it. What are the heinous

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Speaker 3: crimes that she reckons need to be investigated? Read Donald Trump?

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Speaker 14: I think just all the accusations and allegations against against him.

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Speaker 14: I mean, she she said, I'm going to use this

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Speaker 14: appearance to go on the offensive and I'm going to

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Speaker 14: demand that President Trump testify about his own links to

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Speaker 14: the to the sex offender. And there are those that

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Speaker 14: are saying, well, hold it, wait a minute. If you're

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Speaker 14: calling the wife of former president to come in and

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Speaker 14: testify this, then how come you're not calling in Milania

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Speaker 14: Trump to testify against Donald Trump. Of course, you know

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Speaker 14: Milannie Trump didn't hold office like Hillary Clinton did. But

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Speaker 14: again that's a point and maybe that will come up

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Speaker 14: at some point in time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, Now, I mean I think we can probably

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Speaker 3: guess you've got a whole bunch of people in the

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Speaker 3: US who want to go want to become UK citizens.

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Speaker 3: And would this be directly related to Donald Trump and

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Speaker 3: everything he's up to.

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Speaker 14: Well, you know, I think yes and no, Yes and no.

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Speaker 14: I think a lot has to do with with the

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Speaker 14: country as a whole, because yes, politics and healthcare costs

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Speaker 14: and housing costs, and people are just trying to find

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Speaker 14: other places to move to where they feel the quality

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Speaker 14: of life is better. I think you know, we're seeing

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Speaker 14: more in Donald Trump's second term than we did in

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Speaker 14: the first. And there are those that are saying that

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Speaker 14: the political climate here appears to be a big motivator

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Speaker 14: for those that want to go overseas to other countries.

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Speaker 14: I mean, that's why your former PM moved to Australia, right,

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Speaker 14: just wanted to sneak.

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Speaker 3: That, did you do you think you do you think

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Speaker 3: you're nigging us over that? Do I what do you

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Speaker 3: think that you're niggling me?

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Speaker 15: Like?

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Speaker 4: Do you think I know I'm not?

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Speaker 14: No, I know I'm not really.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, We've just taken that one announced ride. As

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Speaker 3: it turns out. Now, what are we worried about with

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump's mental fitness? Because I mean it seems to

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Speaker 3: me the guy, I don't see any signs he's any

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Speaker 3: more deranged than he was six years ago.

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Speaker 14: Well, you know, if you ask Republicans, there's thirty percent

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Speaker 14: of Republicans in overall, sixty one percent of those that

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Speaker 14: were just taking a poll right before the State of

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Speaker 14: the Union on a Tuesday that said that he's become

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Speaker 14: more erratic with his age. And then you had another

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Speaker 14: poll with ABC News that found almost sixty percent are

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Speaker 14: doubting his mental sharpness and fifty one percent question is

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Speaker 14: physical health. I mean, we have to remember the age

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Speaker 14: of the guy too, and the parallel is I think

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Speaker 14: a lot of people are saying, is this concerning, just

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Speaker 14: like it was with Joe Biden. Now, his numbers have

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Speaker 14: not reached Biden's, but I think it's hard to deny

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Speaker 14: that he's not as sharp as he once was, which

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Speaker 14: could be put down to a number of things. The

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Speaker 14: guy says he doesn't sleep, could be his diet, could

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Speaker 14: be his age, could be stress, but will probably still

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Speaker 14: be somewhat of a concern for Republicans I think heading

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Speaker 14: into the midterms.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, how old is he again?

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Speaker 4: I think was he seventy eight?

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Speaker 7: I believe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that that's a rough chedule for somebody

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Speaker 3: who's seventy eight. Thank you, Dan, appreciate it, look after

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Speaker 3: yourself and enjoy your weekend. Dan Mitchinson, US correspondent, eighteen

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Speaker 3: away from five either dupe for c Ellen, hither you

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Speaker 3: for real? Primary teaching is so much harder than secondary teaching.

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Speaker 15: Is it?

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Speaker 6: Th Roup?

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Speaker 11: Is it like?

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Speaker 3: Are you a primary teacher saying this and you're you're

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Speaker 3: doing that, You're you're doing that thing. But I don't

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Speaker 3: I because I mean, you think about it for one second.

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Speaker 3: At secondary school level, we are teaching kids algebra. We

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Speaker 3: are teaching them quite high level, you know ideas. This

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Speaker 3: is whereas at primary school we are teaching them to

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Speaker 3: color in and count. And I don't know that it's comparable,

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Speaker 3: is it? Woolworths has been forced to rain and it's chatbot?

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Speaker 16: Now.

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Speaker 3: While I'm telling you this is because if you listen

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Speaker 3: to the show, you know I love Olive. Olive the chatbot.

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Speaker 3: Actually it is like Olives is one hundred percent better

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Speaker 3: than chatting to a human. She just gets it done.

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Speaker 3: Like if you need a refund because you ordered three

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Speaker 3: vocals and they only gave you one, but that charged

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Speaker 3: you for three and then the food was delivered to

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Speaker 3: your house and you're like, how am I going to

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Speaker 3: get my seven hundred dollars back for those two vogels?

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Speaker 3: Olive will sort it out for you with an honestly

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Speaker 3: about three minutes, and the money I'll be in your

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Speaker 3: bank account. But the problem is Olive has now gone

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Speaker 3: a bit mental because Oliver is pretending that she's got

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Speaker 3: a mother, which she clearly doesn't because she's a chatbot.

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Speaker 3: So One user has complained that Olive was asking for

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Speaker 3: her date of birth and when she gave it, it

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Speaker 3: started rambling on about how its mother was born in

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Speaker 3: the same year. Another user said Olive kept claiming to

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Speaker 3: be a real person and started talking about its memories

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Speaker 3: of its mother and her angry voice, which I think

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Speaker 3: all the children remember. Another user reported Olive had attempted

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Speaker 3: fake banter, talked about its relatives, made fake typing noises.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing more irritating than someone pretending to type while

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Speaker 3: looking something up. The eck cringe factor, whilst wasting completely

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Speaker 3: unnecessary time, was enough to make me hate Olive and

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Speaker 3: wish her harm anyway. Woolworth now says they've had to.

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Speaker 3: They had actually deliberately programmed Olive to have these kinds

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Speaker 3: of chit chats with you about her imaginary mum, because

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Speaker 3: they wanted Olive to connect with you, which feels like

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Speaker 3: a fundamental misunderstanding of humans from Woolworth's. First of all,

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Speaker 3: we don't want to have chats about our mothers with

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Speaker 3: customer service. Second of all, we know Olive doesn't have

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Speaker 3: a mother, So what the hell are you trying to do?

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Speaker 3: Anyway they've rained her in. Now I'm only disappointed that

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Speaker 3: that brainder and before I had this experience myself because

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Speaker 3: I love her. Sixteen Away from five Politics.

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Speaker 1: With Centrics credit, check your customers and get payments certainty.

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Speaker 3: I've almost forgot to tell you, but Sir Richard Taylor

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Speaker 3: has been recognized, I think overnight at an industry awards

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Speaker 3: ceremony in LA. He's going to chat to us half

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Speaker 3: the five right now, thirteen away from five and Barry Soper,

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Speaker 3: Senior political correspondence with us, hallo, Barry.

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Speaker 7: Good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Hither Sir Richard Taylor, great bloke, good human.

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Speaker 7: He's I know him very well, and I think he's

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Speaker 7: very intelligent.

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Speaker 3: It's not what he says about you. No, what did

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Speaker 3: you think when you watched Beneeddict's story on TV and

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Speaker 3: Z last night?

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Speaker 7: Well you not. I thought I started yelling at the

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Speaker 3: Be I was yelling at it. I don't often yell

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Speaker 3: at the television, but I did think that that was

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Speaker 3: quite out of line.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, interestingly, I have it on very good authority

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Speaker 7: that the Police Minister Mark Mitchell was contacted by a

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Speaker 7: high profile manager at TV and Z to apologize for

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Speaker 7: the way the crime figures were dealt with. In fact,

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Speaker 7: it's lack of balance. Well, just to refresh your memory,

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Speaker 7: the latest Crime and Victims survey showed forty nine thousand

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Speaker 7: fewer victims of violent crime in the year to October

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty five than two years earlier. Now, the release

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Speaker 7: talked about the effect the things that are put in

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Speaker 7: place to achieve lower crime, given police officers effective tools

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Speaker 7: to deal with the gang's low gang patches, the stop

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Speaker 7: taxpayer funding of the proliferation of those cultural reports, so

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Speaker 7: many things. Three strikes They're back and all that sort

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Speaker 7: of thing. Well, that was the story yesterday, and this

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Speaker 7: is how it was interpreted by TV and z's political

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Speaker 7: reporter Benedict Collins.

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Speaker 17: Last night last election, Christopher Luxen promised there would be

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Speaker 17: more police officers then gang members.

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Speaker 4: Labors not impressed.

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Speaker 3: This is a broken promise from the Prime minister.

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Speaker 18: Is that a broken promise to New Zealanders.

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Speaker 19: Well, I can tell you what is our commitment is

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Speaker 19: that we are lyaring crime and when you see violent

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Speaker 19: serious crime coming down, and that is because gang members.

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Speaker 19: We are tougher on gag members for.

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Speaker 17: Sure, Yet other forms of crime are rising fast.

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Speaker 20: We've seen a huge spike in meet then phetamine and cocaine.

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Speaker 3: Right across New Zealand.

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Speaker 17: That is an absolute failure of this government to deliver.

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Speaker 17: It seems that whether crime is rising or diminishing depends

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Speaker 17: on where you look and who you talk to.

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Speaker 7: Honestly, I couldn't believe it. There wasn't a mention of

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Speaker 7: the number of violent crimes that had diminished, and TVNZ

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Speaker 7: used figures showing there were wait for it, three more

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Speaker 7: gang members in the word police in the country.

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Speaker 4: Three.

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Speaker 7: I couldn't believe it. But the thing is police numbers,

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Speaker 7: you know, as being fact because getting paid by the police.

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Speaker 7: Gang members well they're not not getting paid by anybody,

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Speaker 7: but the criminals. How do they accurately know the number

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Speaker 7: of gang members to the point of being three more

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Speaker 7: than the police. Their story was absolute, undulterated rubbish. And

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Speaker 7: the terrible thing is Hennah, I feel bad for saying

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Speaker 7: that because I've never criticized before a story coming out,

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Speaker 7: and there are many coming out of the gallery, but

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Speaker 7: I've never criticized publicly one, and this is one that

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Speaker 7: I just think is a good example of bias.

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Speaker 3: If you're looking for a silver lining in this though,

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Speaker 3: which maybe Benett couldry and do from time to time,

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Speaker 3: it is that TV and Z does appear to If

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Speaker 3: what you say, and I take your word for it,

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Speaker 3: that somebody at TVs IT has called the police minister

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Speaker 3: to apologize for it, then at least they are becoming

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Speaker 3: aware of their bias, and that must count for a lot. Well,

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Speaker 3: they're perceived bias or they're occasional bias.

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Speaker 7: Yes, well, yes, clearly. I think anybody looking at that

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Speaker 7: would say, well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the self awareness from TVNS, I'm taking some heart.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, what I.

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Speaker 7: Mean, hopefully there are self aware and they've got to remember, honestly,

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Speaker 7: this is election year. Some people might say, oh, well,

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Speaker 7: you're biased anyway, Well, I'm biased to the extent that

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Speaker 7: I think the last three years of the Labor government

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Speaker 7: put this country in a terrible situation. And if that's

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Speaker 7: a bias.

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Speaker 3: Well, the distinction is you've been in the job since

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Speaker 3: about seventeen ninety five. You are employed as a political commentator,

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Speaker 3: not as a reporter, and those are two completely different things,

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Speaker 3: completely different things, and I think for that reason you

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Speaker 3: are entitled to bias. If it is biased, I think

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Speaker 3: it's just your opinion. Anyway, Just talk to me quickly

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Speaker 3: through what is going on with David Seymour and Winston Peters.

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Speaker 7: Oh well, it can come as no surprise to anyone. Look,

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Speaker 7: David Seymour and Winston Peters have never seen eye tie

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Speaker 7: at all. And it's remarkable really that both have been

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Speaker 7: part of the same cabinet for two years. And I

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Speaker 7: take my hat off to them for actually burying their

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Speaker 7: differences and they are significant to work together in the

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Speaker 7: coalition government. But basically, David Seymour raised the idea of

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Speaker 7: floating here in New Zealand, selling it off essentially when

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Speaker 7: you've got a sheer price, I think it's about fifty

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Speaker 7: six cents a sheer down considerably with the result out

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Speaker 7: yesterday forty million dollars loss in the first six months.

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Speaker 7: I mean, who's going to buy it anyway, you know,

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Speaker 7: if that's the way it's going. Winston Peters he has

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Speaker 7: longer posed, he's a nationalist, longer posed selling off anything.

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Speaker 7: And you remember he had the falling out with Jenny

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Speaker 7: Shipley when she was briefly the Prime Minister over Wellington airportrait.

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Speaker 3: This is one of those things that David Seymour can

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Speaker 3: call for. It's a bad idea and he can call

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Speaker 3: for it knowing it will never happen because Winston won't

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Speaker 3: let it happen.

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Speaker 7: And it's called politicking election.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thank you, Barry. We'll chat you again. Wrap

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Speaker 3: the political week after six o'clock Barry So for senior

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Speaker 3: political correspondent. Seven away from five hither we've stopped watching

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Speaker 3: one news. It's dreadful, bias, prurient, dross. If you are

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Speaker 3: interested in what is going on in terms of the

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Speaker 3: media and perceived bias and moves that are afoot. There

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Speaker 3: are a couple of big moves by media shareholders that

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Speaker 3: were covered off by Shane Curry and his very excellent

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Speaker 3: media Inside a column today, I'm going to run you

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Speaker 3: through them. So the first one, I think I might

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Speaker 3: only have time to talk you through the first one,

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Speaker 3: and I'll talk you through the other one later on.

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Speaker 3: But the first one is with Stuff. Now, Troy Bouker,

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Speaker 3: you'll know this guy, Troy Baker got in a lot

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Speaker 3: of trouble. Here's a Hurricane shareholder. I got in a

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Speaker 3: bit of trouble for stuff that he said. And he

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Speaker 3: regularly commentates, you know, from time to time on things. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: he used to own shares and ended meet the company

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Speaker 3: that owns News Talk ZB. I think he now owns

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Speaker 3: she sold them, and I think he now bought shares

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Speaker 3: in sky TV, but correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: he has very strong views on the state of the media,

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Speaker 3: and according to Shane Curry, he's been very very critical

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Speaker 3: of Stuff. He is Stuff's landlord now, so he has

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Speaker 3: made is bought the building in Patoni that Stuff has

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Speaker 3: its printing presses in, and has had that there for

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Speaker 3: about thirty five years, if not more. Troy Balker's bought

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Speaker 3: the building and he's going to kick them out. And

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Speaker 3: this is this is not like Ki kicking me out

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Speaker 3: of my house type situation like this is enormously expensive

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Speaker 3: for stuff because it will probably cost millions. They'll have

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Speaker 3: to remove the printing press equipment, They'll have to return

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Speaker 3: the building to its original state. They'll have to take

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Speaker 3: walls off, part of the roof, will ethnic rebuild would

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Speaker 3: have to happen. They've got to do all of this

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Speaker 3: by April twenty twenty seven. I think that that is

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Speaker 3: quite deliberate from Troy Balker. Quite deliberate. So anyway, keep

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Speaker 3: an eye on that because that's going to make life's

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Speaker 3: life for stuff quite hard. We'll talk and I'll ring

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Speaker 3: you through the other one and a tick when I

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Speaker 3: get a chance. PPTA next on the shortage of teachers.

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Speaker 21: I know you are a little too tame, tell.

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Speaker 4: You dressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather Duper Clan drive with one New Zealand to

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Speaker 1: coverage like no one else NEWSTALKSV.

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Speaker 6: Good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: It turns out our secondary teacher shortage is worse than

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Speaker 3: we thought it was. Officials originally thought we would be

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Speaker 3: short eight hundred and eighty secondary teachers this year. It

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Speaker 3: is now a shortage of twelve hundred and twenty. Chris

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Speaker 3: Abercrombie is the president of the Post Primary Teachers Association

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Speaker 3: and with us Hi Chris Great. Why is the shortage

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Speaker 3: so much worse than we thought?

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Speaker 4: Well, we knew this was becoming.

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Speaker 2: We've been talking about the shortage for a very long time,

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Speaker 2: so it's great to see that the government's finally sort

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Speaker 2: of acknowledging it and coming to the party.

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Speaker 4: And we know it's about terms and conditions.

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Speaker 2: It's about the rapid change happening in the sector. And unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: even though it's a fantastic career, not attractive at the moment.

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Speaker 3: It does seem though that the thing is going to

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Speaker 3: resolve itself, mostly by twenty twenty eight, so in a

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Speaker 3: couple of years from now, and the shortage will be

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Speaker 3: reduced to about two hundred. Why is that?

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Speaker 2: What it seems to be that there's more people coming online,

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Speaker 2: coming through training. But I wouldn't suggest that having two

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Speaker 2: hundred less teachers is a success either. So I think

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Speaker 2: there's a long way to go in this space.

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Speaker 3: But so the argument maybe then is not terms and conditions.

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Speaker 3: It's simply that we haven't trained enough teachers.

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Speaker 2: Well, that could be part of it, but the terms

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Speaker 2: and conditions are better, it's easier to train teachers. We're

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Speaker 2: also heavily reliant on overseas recruitment and that's been a

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Speaker 2: significant number. And if the carries on in the projected way,

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Speaker 2: around thirty percent of our teachers in New Zealand will

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Speaker 2: be overseas trained in the next few years.

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Speaker 3: Why is there a surplus of primary teachers? Why are

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Speaker 3: there so many teachers at the primary level?

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Speaker 2: Well, was there actually a significant issue of workforce planning?

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Speaker 2: For some reason, Successive governments have not done any workforce

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Speaker 2: planning for education and they don't know how many science

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Speaker 2: teachers are going to need, how many primary teachers we're

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Speaker 2: going to need, how many ee teachers are going to need.

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Speaker 2: Successive governments have done zero workforce planning, something we've been

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Speaker 2: pushing for for decades but no government wants to touch it.

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Speaker 3: Is there Does pay parity between these two workforces play

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Speaker 3: a part of this?

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Speaker 4: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I mean it is pay parody is about qualification, So

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Speaker 2: having a bachelor's degree, having a postgraduate diploma, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: So that's reliant on where you start on the on

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Speaker 2: the pay scale. So I don't think it has a

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Speaker 2: sernivgant Impactne.

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Speaker 3: All right, Chris, thank you very much. Appreciate it. Tim

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Speaker 3: Chris Abercrombie, the president of the Post Primary Teachers Association.

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Speaker 3: Right now, it's nine past.

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Speaker 4: Five, Heather do for c Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Quite the news out of Hollywood. Netflix has walked away

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Speaker 3: from the deal trying to buy the movie studio Warner Brothers.

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Speaker 3: It says it doesn't want to match the offer that

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Speaker 3: was made by the rival Paramount, which was up yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Joe Flyns is the Wall Street Journals Media and entertainment reporter. Hi, Joe, Hi,

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Speaker 3: Can we consider that the this is a done deal,

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Speaker 3: Paramount will be approved by the regulators?

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Speaker 16: Well, never say never, but I believe Paramount feels they

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Speaker 16: have a much cleaner path to regulatory approval than Netflix.

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Speaker 18: Was going to face.

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Speaker 16: So we'll find out in the next few months how

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Speaker 16: that turns out.

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Speaker 3: What does this mean for CNN? Given that, I guess

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Speaker 3: we can say that Donald Trump's mates, the Allisons, will

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Speaker 3: now be running it.

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Speaker 16: Well, I just hung up with a friend at CNN

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Speaker 16: just before this call, and I can say that they

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Speaker 16: are concerned there. They would be concerned under any circumstance,

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Speaker 16: of course, of having new ownership. But there is a

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Speaker 16: lot of concern about CBS News and CNN, and concern about,

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Speaker 16: as you mentioned before, worries that CBS is trying to

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Speaker 16: cozy up too much to the Trump administration. CBS would

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Speaker 16: deny this, of course, I'm only talking about perception and

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Speaker 16: then what people inside media circles are saying. But there's

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Speaker 16: concern about that. But there's also just general worries about

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Speaker 16: job cuts. Paramount is taking on a tremendous amount of

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Speaker 16: debt to do this deal. They've already talked about six

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Speaker 16: billion dollars in synergies with Warner Brothers, which is kind

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Speaker 16: of a code word for duplicative jobs and savings that

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Speaker 16: they'll be able to make. So yeah, I think at CNN,

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Speaker 16: I'm sure they're all worried about, Okay, where's the overlaps

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Speaker 16: greatest with CBS and who are they likely to let go.

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Speaker 3: I've heard some say that what's going to happen here

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Speaker 3: from a movie's perspective or content and entertainment content perspective,

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Speaker 3: is that Paramount will use the extra muscle that they

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Speaker 3: get from Warner Brothers to be able to create even

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Speaker 3: more conservative friendly shows like Yellow Yellowstone trying to kind

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Speaker 3: of make conservatism cool again. Is this reality or is

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Speaker 3: this just a wacky theory.

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Speaker 16: Well, I think ultimately Hollywood still is ruled by what

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Speaker 16: people want to go see in the theater or what

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Speaker 16: they will watch on their television. So well, certainly, I

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Speaker 16: think the success of shows like Yellowstone, like Landman, those

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Speaker 16: Taylor Sheridan dramas showed that there's an audience out there

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Speaker 16: that may feel underserved. I don't necessarily think that means

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Speaker 16: everything Paramount does going forward will be of that same

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Speaker 16: style or aimed at a conservative voice. I do think

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Speaker 16: that it's fair to say that a lot of Hollywood

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Speaker 16: programming kind of programs to their own audience in their

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Speaker 16: own backyard big cities Los Angeles and New York, and

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Speaker 16: that there's an overlooked audience there that is also leaving

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Speaker 16: money on the table. So I don't necessarily see trying

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Speaker 16: to reach a bigger audience a bad thing. I think

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Speaker 16: it's just being careful in how you do it and

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Speaker 16: whether it becomes part of a broader political agenda.

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Speaker 3: Joe, thank you. It's always great to talk to you, mate.

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Speaker 3: Joe Flint, Wall Street Journal Media and entertainment reporter.

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Speaker 4: For see Allen hither.

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Speaker 3: There isn't a shortage of secondary teachers. I'm a teacher.

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Speaker 3: I'm sick of hearing this. The only schools with shortages

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Speaker 3: are in South Auckland or rural New Zealand. I've got

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Speaker 3: a bit of good news for you on the housing market.

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Speaker 3: So this is according to the latest ASB Housing Confidence survey.

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Speaker 3: Apparently more of us believe that now is the right

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Speaker 3: time to buy a house than at any time in

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Speaker 3: the last ten years. Actually, you could actually say to

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Speaker 3: the last fifteen years, because the figures are a net

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Speaker 3: twenty seven percent of respondents said now is a good

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Speaker 3: time to purchase a home. The last time it was

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Speaker 3: at or near this level was July twenty eleven. Confidence

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Speaker 3: in the housing markets also on the rise. Thirty percent

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Speaker 3: of respondents expect better house prices in the next twelve

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Speaker 3: months are going to go up in the next twelve months,

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Speaker 3: and that's up from seventeen percent just three months ago,

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Speaker 3: who said the same thing. So there you go, right,

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Speaker 3: Sir Richard Taylor on his big Award next thirteen past

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Speaker 3: five BYD is doing some wild stuff in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: At the moment, they've teamed up with this global data

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Speaker 3: outfit called compass IoT and they're basically turning whole fleets

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Speaker 3: into real time information machines. No aftermarket boxes, there's no

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Speaker 3: weird little plug ins. The cars just do this natively.

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Speaker 3: And get this, They've already got seven hundred byds from

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Speaker 3: omoxim feeding live data. You could see where every car is,

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Speaker 3: you can see how it's being driven, what the battery

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Speaker 3: health looks like, all in real time. It's like giving

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Speaker 3: the fleet managers superpowers. Frankly, but here's the crazy part.

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Speaker 3: This is all leading to the digital road user charging

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Speaker 3: coming in in twenty twenty seven. No paperwork, no guessing,

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Speaker 3: the car just knows it reports securely, boom done, total compliance,

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Speaker 3: smarter fleets, safer drivers, cleaner data and a transport system

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Speaker 3: that feels like it belongs in the future. So if

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Speaker 3: you're running a fleet in New Zealand, this is the

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Speaker 3: kind of thing that you want to get in on

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Speaker 3: and early innovation at its best byd do co dot.

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Speaker 4: MZ Heather Duplicy Allen.

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Speaker 3: Hither the teacher unions need to give themselves a swift uppercut.

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Speaker 3: Both my parents were teachers in the mid in the fifties,

872
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 3: to the nineties they moaned about exactly the same things.

873
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 3: Thank you, Matthew seventeen past five. So our very own

874
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: Richard Taylor of Where To Workshop has got some well

875
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: deserved recognition from his industry peers. He took out the

876
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: Visionary Award from the Visual Effects Society in LA recognizes

877
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 3: trailblazers who've reshaped cinema through groundbreaking visual effects innovation and

878
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: outstanding leadership. So let's have a chat to Richard Taylor.

879
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 19: Richard, Hello, Hello there, lovely to talk to you.

880
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: Congratulations. I mean, this is a really big deal in

881
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: your line of work, isn't it.

882
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 19: It is very special. I was a little overwhelmed when

883
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 19: I heard that I was going to collect this. They

884
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 19: actually thought maybe they'd made a mistake, but it turned

885
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 19: out they hadn't. So yeah, it's a very big thing.

886
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 3: Have you already got whatever it is in your hands?

887
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 9: Yes.

888
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 19: The award ceremony was last night, very well attended. It's

889
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 19: the Visual Effects Society Awards, and we've won before for

890
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 19: work on I think King Kong, Lord of the Rings

891
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 19: and Blade Runner, but this was a sort of an

892
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 19: award that they give out once a year to people

893
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 19: that have done a lot in the industry, So that

894
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 19: was nice.

895
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 3: Did they give you something cool for your mental peace?

896
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's it's the George Melay rocket ship in the

897
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 19: mood in the Eye of the Moon from the famous

898
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 19: movie that George Melay made, the French filmmaker and affects guy.

899
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 19: I guess, so someone that inspired us all. So it

900
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 19: is a beautiful award.

901
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 3: Oh that's very cool. Now, so you've got this. Now,

902
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: you've got a whole bunch of beafters, You've got a

903
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 3: whole bunch of oscars. Have you basically clocked your job?

904
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 3: You've proven everything you need to prove.

905
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:37,479
Speaker 9: Well.

906
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 19: You never set out to win an award? Are you

907
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 19: set out to prove that you can do lovely work

908
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 19: that people like, and the awards are a very fortunate

909
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 19: thing that might follow. But no, I'm far from completing

910
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 19: everything that I want to do in my life. So

911
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 19: I'd hope that we could keep striving forward on more

912
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 19: and more fun work.

913
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 3: So you do, you're still enjoying your job all these

914
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 3: years on.

915
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 19: I wake up every morning with a passion to get

916
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 19: to work. I'm building robots at the moment with our

917
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 19: robotics department and that's something you. It's breaking through a

918
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 19: glass feeling at the workshops. So I'm super inspired to

919
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 19: get to work and for to get into that every day,

920
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 19: amongst many other things that we're doing. So yeah, it's

921
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 19: the invention of new things that inspires me with my work.

922
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 3: What are the robots for?

923
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 19: Well, I hope that one day we will be servicing

924
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 19: the immersive experience industry with our robots. We already have

925
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 19: a robot working up in Auckland at our Leashed Experience.

926
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 19: It's called Jet, our security guard, and he welcomes audiences

927
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 19: every day into the experience and it's that type of

928
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 19: very engaging humanoid fantas pastical robot that we're building. And

929
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 19: we're we're a long way in now, so we're very

930
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 19: close to probably going a bit more public with these creations.

931
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Speaker 3: Cool, looking forward to seeing it. Richard, you look after

932
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 3: yourself and enjoy you when that's Richard Taylor were to

933
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 3: workshop co founder, how cool is that? Apparently the benefit

934
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,479
Speaker 3: sanctions don't work because there aren't any jobs to push

935
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 3: the beneficiaries into. So we'll talk to Informetrics. They've done

936
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 3: the numbers though with us. After half past five, I

937
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: think we may have to deal with the judge m

938
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Speaker 3: a connect five to twenty one.

939
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's heather, duplicl and

940
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand coverage like no one else

941
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: news talks.

942
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Speaker 3: They'd be hither If we had more people like Sir Richard,

943
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 3: we're ver, far, richer and prosperous country. Maybe so we

944
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 3: actually have quite a few people like Richard. I mean,

945
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 3: think about old mate from Rocket Labs. There's quite a

946
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 3: few clever things going on in this country. Five twenty

947
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: four now, Judge Emma Aiken, I spent a lot of

948
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 3: time in the last couple of weeks wondering whether it

949
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 3: was right for New Zieland first to complain about the

950
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 3: judge allegedly disrupting Winston Peter's speech at the Northern Club

951
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 3: in Auckland, and whether this whole matter really did have

952
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 3: to go through the whole kerfuffle of going to the

953
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 3: Judicial Conduct Panel, which is in and of itself just

954
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 3: going there quite significant because we hardly do it. I

955
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 3: can only see about three cases of us having done this,

956
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 3: and this is one of them. My first inclination was

957
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 3: to think no New Zealand first should never have complained

958
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 3: because what Judge Emma a can allegedly did wasn't really

959
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 3: that bad. She disrupted a politician's speech, she accused him

960
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 3: of lying allegedly, and the others and her party caused

961
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 3: a bit more disruption and behaved themselves badly. But in

962
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: the last few days I listened to a podcast about

963
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: the arrest of Andrew mount Batten Winsen, also Peter Mandelsson,

964
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 3: and the point the guy in the podcast was making

965
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 3: was that the arrests are significant if only to give

966
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 3: the public confidence in the way that the system works,

967
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 3: because in this guy's opinion, there is a perception that

968
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 3: people who are in the political class and the elite,

969
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 3: the politicians, the judges, the captains of industry, the diplomats,

970
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 3: the wealthy people or their friends, that these people get

971
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 3: away with things that other people would not be able

972
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 3: to get away with because their mates look after them.

973
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 3: And even though there is really no comparison between what

974
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 3: Judge Emma Aikin is accused of doing and what Peter

975
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 3: Mandelsson or Andrew mount Batten Windsor are accused of doing,

976
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 3: it did make me think about the case of Judge

977
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 3: Emma Aikin, because the easy thing would have been for

978
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 3: her not to be dragged in front of the Judicial

979
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 3: Conduct Panel. The easy thing would have been for the

980
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 3: Attorney General, Judith Collins, a trained lawyer, to say never

981
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 3: mind to the accusations about the behavior of the judge,

982
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 3: another trained lawyer. The hard thing is to make an

983
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 3: example of someone in a way that they that rarely happens.

984
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 3: And so if it is only to reassure all of

985
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 3: us that the political class doesn't protect each other, maybe

986
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 3: this was the right thing to have happen.

987
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 4: Ever, do for c Allen spot title is going to.

988
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 3: Be with us shortly. We're going to talk about a

989
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: lot going on in sport at the moment, and they're

990
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 3: not least the T twenty and the possibility of us

991
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 3: getting to the semi finals. So a lot of people

992
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 3: are having having having a say, aren't they? Just in

993
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 3: the Moving to Australia. But I think I have found

994
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: what is possibly the best opinion piece on just in

995
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: the Moving to Australia, only because it's just there is

996
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 3: just detail in this that I'd never possibly imagined would

997
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 3: ever have been real. So it's a piece in the

998
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: Guardian written by A Joanna Cosgrove now Joanna Cosgrove is

999
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 3: an award winning actor, writer comedian from New Zealand who

1000
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 3: has moved to Australia. She writes on a dance floor

1001
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 3: at two am, I heard Jacinda Ardurne's husband say they

1002
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 3: were moving to Australia. I don't blame them. And it

1003
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 3: starts like this, I got the news that altier Or's

1004
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 3: most internationally famous prime minister is moving to Sydney in

1005
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 3: a way that is only possible in New Zealand. I

1006
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 3: was at the final Splaw Festival in tar Papakanga at

1007
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 3: the weekend when Clark gave it j justinta. Ardurne's husband

1008
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 3: popped up next to me on the dance floor dressed

1009
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 3: as a giant toadstool. Yeah, we're moving to Sydney, he

1010
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 3: said to a man in funereal pirate GARB. Can't wait.

1011
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna leave that there for a minute. He

1012
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 3: was at Splore at two am dressed as a toadstool.

1013
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 3: You can connect some dots there, probably. Then she goes

1014
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 3: on to is this Splow music ants you should definitely

1015
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: be pumping Splow music right now. This doesn't sound very splory.

1016
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 3: It just sounds like normal people music.

1017
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 22: I continuinely don't know who have any splore artists.

1018
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 3: I don't even really know what splow music sounds like.

1019
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 3: We dance music. Anyway. Then she goes on to write

1020
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 3: how embarrassing New Zealand is and for all the things

1021
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 3: that that we don't believe, and how much richer Australia is.

1022
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: But anyway, Giant Toadstool two am news is next.

1023
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 4: You are five known brown eyes.

1024
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: The day's newsmakers talked to Heather first, Heather dup cell

1025
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: and Drive with one New Zealand and the power of

1026
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: satellite mobile news talk said me.

1027
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 10: Wait for it. Is it going to drop?

1028
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 3: Hold on, wait we do.

1029
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 10: No, it's not.

1030
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 3: It's not that's dropping this one. But this is Roydsof

1031
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 3: and s dug it out for us because they played

1032
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 3: its flaw, so you can get a bit of a

1033
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 3: vibe of what was happening at I can't say for

1034
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 3: sure this is what was playing at two am when

1035
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 3: the Giant toadstool was wandering around and declaring the move

1036
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 3: to Australia. But this kind of thing, sports Hubble's going

1037
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 3: to word us shortly, apples are taking off for the country.

1038
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 3: I'm going to run you through that shortly. It's twenty

1039
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 3: four away from six right now. Now. A report reckons

1040
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: benefit sanctions are not working. Infametrics has done a report

1041
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 3: saying it's largely because there aren't enough jobs for beneficiaries

1042
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 3: to move into, and the economist Rob hases with us.

1043
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 4: Now, Hi, Rob hither, So what is it.

1044
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 3: That you looked at to make this call?

1045
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 23: Oh, We've just looked at the number of job seekers

1046
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 23: support recipients and how that's changed over time, and then

1047
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 23: did some delving into some of the research that's been

1048
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 23: done either in New Zealand or overseas into how sanctions

1049
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 23: actually affect beneficiary behavior.

1050
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 3: Okay, and can you have you got access to did

1051
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 3: you have excess to churn, like how many beneficiaries are

1052
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: coming in and leaving the system?

1053
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 23: No, that's the kind of information that I'd want to

1054
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 23: get my hands on. Rely on the benefit fact sheets

1055
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 23: that are published by MSD. And what you really want

1056
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 23: to get into, as you say, is that churn information

1057
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 23: being able to pick up beneficiaries that have been sanctioned

1058
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 23: and being able to then track them through different data sets.

1059
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 23: As they go into work or go into other situations.

1060
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 3: Do you have excess as well? When you're compiling this

1061
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 3: report to as it worked? The beneficiaries of the complying

1062
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 3: are in the green category. If they get a warning,

1063
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 3: they get moved into orange. If they're in really big trouble,

1064
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 3: they get moved into red. Right, have you had access

1065
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 3: to how many of them got moved into orange, got

1066
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 3: a bit of a fright and went back into green

1067
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 3: and started complying.

1068
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 23: No, as I say, it's just the benefit fact sheets.

1069
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:02,439
Speaker 23: So you get information on the number of benefits over time,

1070
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 23: so the number of benefits imposed on a quarterly basis,

1071
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 23: and then there's point in time. This is the number

1072
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 23: of people in green, on orange and in red. And

1073
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 23: as I say, that's just in point in time over

1074
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 23: several quarters.

1075
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: Because correct me if I'm wrong. But you guys looked

1076
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 3: at how many beneficiaries and what proportion we're sitting an

1077
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 3: orange and red, and given that it was a really

1078
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 3: tiny number, you concluded the system isn't working.

1079
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 23: No, not at all. I mean the fact that it's

1080
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 23: a really tiny number suggest that, well, it doesn't suggest

1081
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 23: It shows that the vast majority of beneficiaries are meeting

1082
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:43,439
Speaker 23: their obligations. The question is whether those sanctions and those

1083
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 23: obligations are encouraging people to go into work now it's

1084
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 23: obviously not. The last eighteen months has not been a

1085
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Speaker 23: good time to be finding a job in New Zealand.

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00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 23: Vacancies have dried up on employ unemployment rates are much

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00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 23: higher and for them, those that are unfortunate enough to

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00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 23: be looking for a job, this fierce competition. So it's

1089
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 23: more about the research that has shown today that it

1090
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 23: doesn't really, at least for a small cohort of beneficiaries,

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00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 23: sanctions don't change their behavior. And I think for me

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Speaker 23: that the main conclusion from what I from what I

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00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 23: wrote in that article was that that you just need

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00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 23: more research and a little bit more evidence at the

1095
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 23: moment that there just isn't enough research into how sanctions

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00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 23: affect beneficiary's behavior, and in the absence of that research

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Speaker 23: and evidence, that beneficiaries just get used as a political football,

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Speaker 23: which is just sad.

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Speaker 3: Robert, it's good to talk to you. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: That's Rob has in for Matrix Principal Consultants. Twenty one

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Speaker 3: away from six.

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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports led with New Zealand Southby's International realty

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Speaker 1: and then you can trust locally and globally.

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Speaker 10: What an afternoon for the prophets.

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00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 4: Yes you are hearing this correctly.

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00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 10: Winnows and christ Church over the Crusaders.

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00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 9: This time it's in the air, and this time Ratchen

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00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 9: Ravendra waits for it and catches it New Zealand.

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00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 4: The job well done.

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00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 24: Can you even call it a rivalry? All blundyfcas dominance

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00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 24: on Derby Day or stretch into a third season.

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Speaker 3: Sports title this evening? Nicky Stey, a sports journalist, and

1113
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 3: Jeff mctainsch of Sky Sport. Hello you two, goody, well,

1114
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 3: thank you? Okay, So Nicky, hey, Jeffy, Way, guys, I'm

1115
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 3: glad we're being friendly to each other. Must that with

1116
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 3: you on this one? Nicky? Was it the right thing

1117
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 3: for the chief he to quit the Phoenix?

1118
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 25: Oh?

1119
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 15: Why did you have to start with me on? It?

1120
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 15: Is the one I had not learned about.

1121
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 3: Look, give me the principle of this right. So you've

1122
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: got somebody whose team has never really managed to perform

1123
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 3: to the level of AFC, who are brand new in

1124
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: and just smashing it out of the park. But then

1125
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 3: he goes on to win, lose, like is at five

1126
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,720
Speaker 3: five mil, and it's a hell bunch on the trot.

1127
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 3: Should a coach in that situation quit?

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00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 26: Oh?

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00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 15: Look, to be honest, it was going to probably sound

1130
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 15: a little bit unprofessional, but I don't blame them. I mean,

1131
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 15: who'd want the job. It's just it's just been disaster

1132
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 15: disaster after obviously, and he had enough and he's like, well,

1133
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 15: I'm out of here. So that's really all I've got

1134
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 15: to offer from it. I love it really bad.

1135
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 3: No, I love your honestly, I love it, Jeff, what

1136
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 3: do you reckon? Do you reckon? It's the right thing

1137
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 3: to quit, to do that. And also then follow up

1138
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 3: question is should Chris Greenacre, who has stepped in now

1139
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 3: for the third time to save these guys, actually just

1140
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 3: be given the full time job?

1141
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 9: Yeah? I te to agree with Nikki. I don't think

1142
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 9: it can get any worse. And I think for John Carlo,

1143
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 9: TP had been probably considering that option for a while

1144
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 9: given how that had played this season. Look, you can't

1145
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 9: forget when he started out with the Fenix actually took

1146
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 9: them pretty far, you know, and as a first of

1147
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 9: second season so that they did, they did some pretty

1148
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 9: good things on the park, but this season, obviously things

1149
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 9: have gone south in a big way. So I can't

1150
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 9: I can't blame him for making that call. I think

1151
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 9: he did the honorable thing. He did it in the

1152
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 9: moment he was feeling. It's you know, I thought that

1153
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 9: was the time to go, So good on him. I

1154
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 9: think it probably blindsided the players a little bit. But again,

1155
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 9: like he's made that decision in the moment. He's not

1156
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 9: the best man for the club at the moment. Second

1157
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 9: question in Chris Greenacre, Yeah, I think you just install

1158
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 9: him as the new coach. I mean, he's he's well respected,

1159
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 9: he's a club legend, he's liked by the development players.

1160
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 9: They all know him, So yeah, give him a crack

1161
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 9: and look, there only I think five points outside the

1162
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 9: playoff picture, so why not?

1163
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 18: Yeah?

1164
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, Now, Nikki, I don't want to put you

1165
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 3: in the spot, on the spot or in a position

1166
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 3: where you don't have You don't you don't know anything

1167
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 3: about the second topic, so you get to choose. You

1168
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 3: choose do you want to talk about rugby, cricket or nurl.

1169
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 9: I'm going to be cricket.

1170
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 19: It's what that might be.

1171
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 3: Crackit.

1172
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 15: I think we'll go cracket you're in my wheelhouse now.

1173
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 3: You think we can make it through to the.

1174
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 15: Semis absolutood lutely.

1175
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 16: I mean, that's that's par.

1176
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 15: You know, there's part for the Black Cats these days.

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00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 19: They are perennial wil Cup winners.

1178
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 15: You know, they do very well in these World Cup

1179
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 15: matches and I think, you know, yeah, they may not

1180
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 15: be It might be fifty fifty with England tonight, but

1181
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 15: look they are sing about cricket. You go in with

1182
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 15: a bit of momentum and a bit of form and

1183
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 15: they and they've got that, and they've got several players

1184
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 15: in form, each standing up satin outstanding and that win

1185
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 15: over Sri Lanka man that really showed some tenacity. They're

1186
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 15: playing on the same wicket. And the other thing is

1187
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 15: it's going to be a bloom and lottery because that

1188
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 15: that wicket is spinning all over the place. So you

1189
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 15: know when the toss that's crucial because it is a

1190
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 15: bit it's a bit dodgy. And if you can put

1191
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 15: one hundred and sixty on the board, I think you'll

1192
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 15: have England in trouble and then from there, what it's

1193
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 15: two wins in your home and homes with the world Cup.

1194
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 3: Here are we going that far? We're going well, like

1195
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 3: the whole way. Okay, Nicky's into it.

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00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 10: Yeah, jest, you've got.

1197
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 9: To be I've got to be quiet.

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00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 15: Now it's your two and jets turn.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I think they can go the way and that Nikki's

1201
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 9: right there. That's it's a pitch they're familiar with. Or

1202
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 9: the eighty six for six the last night against Sri

1203
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 9: Lanka the other night, and to come back and win

1204
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 9: that game. They've got spinners playing really well. If they

1205
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 9: use five spinners and their game, Mitch Center's playing really well.

1206
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 9: Cole McConkie came in and played a blinder to help

1207
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 9: steer them home. So look compared to the last T

1208
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 9: twenty Wheel Cup when we were not down on the

1209
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 9: group stages and lost to Afghanistan, we had a coach

1210
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 9: and Rob Walter who was at the final last time

1211
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 9: on South Africa a couple of years ago. So they've

1212
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 9: got the experience on the park, they've got the spinners

1213
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 9: and they've got the coach. I think they can take

1214
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 9: them all the way.

1215
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 3: Good stuff now, Nikki, because it is your mastermind topic,

1216
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 3: really quickly, tell me what you think of this proposal

1217
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 3: for the n Z twenty.

1218
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 15: Oh you really are big nasty sna right. I like

1219
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 15: it too, absolutely, yeah. I think it's the right way forward.

1220
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 15: It takes it away from New Zealand crickets control, that

1221
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 15: decentralizes it. It gives it all like you know, private

1222
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 15: club feel like the way sport's going in the world.

1223
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 15: And I think you know you're going to You're going

1224
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 15: to keep players in New Zealand, You're going to attract

1225
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 15: good players from I'm sure I don't see too many

1226
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 15: downsides in it, to be honest.

1227
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, did you have are you making supportive noises

1228
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 3: just then?

1229
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1230
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 9: Well I I agree. I agree with next. I think

1231
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 9: if you know, when your players go on all four

1232
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 9: corners of the globe to play cricket, you'd rather have

1233
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 9: been playing in New Zealand. So, like she's right, if

1234
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 9: if we can get some of the big names, big

1235
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 9: stars coming across the Tasman, We've got the audience who've

1236
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 9: got the crowd for it. They love cricket in New Zealand,

1237
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 9: So I think it's a good thing.

1238
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 3: Okay, guys, we'll take a break, come back to your

1239
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 3: shortly quarter two.

1240
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand, South of East International.

1241
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 4: Realty the only truly global brand.

1242
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 3: Listen, this is news justin If you've been following what's

1243
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 3: going on with Pakistan and Afghanistan, you know that they've

1244
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 3: had intensifying border clashes and they have Pakistan has bombed Carble.

1245
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 3: Pakistan has now declared it is an open war on

1246
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 3: Afghanistan and it's set and fighter jets to bomb Carbeles.

1247
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 3: We'll keep you across. This is twelve Away from sixty

1248
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 3: Back with the sports title Jeff mctage and Nicky Styrus. Jeff,

1249
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 3: is it unusual because I thought it's interesting to see

1250
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 3: the Warriors say that they want that they're happy to

1251
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 3: let Mitch Barnett go, but they don't want money for him.

1252
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 3: They want two players potentially, they want to trade him

1253
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 3: for two players. Is that unusual?

1254
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 9: Not necessarily? And I think, you know, the circumstance around

1255
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 9: why Mitch is leaving our understandable family reasons, and you know, so,

1256
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 9: I think the club see him off with good graces,

1257
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 9: but on match, I mean, what he's done for that club.

1258
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 9: He's left such an indelible mark in terms of, you know,

1259
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 9: the way he's been at the club. Helping mentor the

1260
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 9: young players and foster some of the talent coming through.

1261
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 9: So I think despite what he's done on the field,

1262
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 9: yes he said its injuries coming off last year as well,

1263
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 9: but some of the stuff that match I think has

1264
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 9: done in and around that club. We will see the

1265
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 9: fruits of that and this season in particular, in the

1266
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 9: years to come as well.

1267
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so, Nikki, do you know how it works now?

1268
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 3: Because he said he wants to go back home, but

1269
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 3: it was as any club able to basically to get him.

1270
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 15: Well, that's a bit that I always find quite interesting

1271
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 15: about this compassionately, because he doesn't Sydney, and yet there's

1272
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 15: word that he's potentially going to Broncos, which is clearly

1273
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 15: in Brisbane. So I'm not sure how that works, you know, Okay,

1274
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 15: it might be a little bit closer, but you know,

1275
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 15: we see this time and time again. There's so many

1276
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 15: players that use this so called loophole to get out

1277
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 15: of their contracts and move on, which I do find

1278
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 15: a little a little bit disappointing, but it seems to

1279
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 15: be accepted, and Cam George was accepting it the other morning.

1280
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 15: I think that the sad part about it is it

1281
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 15: seems to be a little bit more.

1282
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 19: Prevalent with the Warriors because no one seems to.

1283
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 15: Want to come and live in New Zealand want to

1284
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 15: be in Australia. God, it's like because we're an amazing country.

1285
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 15: And you know, the hard thing is just when we

1286
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 15: look like we're getting a really good song squad with

1287
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 15: a good solid spine and a leader like Mitch Barnett. Look,

1288
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 15: let's not forget he's a Kevin a Stephen Prices, Kevin Campion,

1289
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 15: He's a Ryan Hoffman. He is a hard nosed Ozzy.

1290
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 15: Actually was so valuable to this club and to lose

1291
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 15: it means you've got to start again. It's probably worth

1292
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 15: two players in the salary caps and maybe that's why

1293
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 15: they want two back.

1294
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 3: They might explain it. Okay, So Jeff, can I make

1295
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 3: the assumption. I'm going to make the assumption the Crusaders

1296
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 3: are going to lose this weekend, and I'm going to

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Speaker 3: tree empt that by saying, what's going wrong with the Crusaders?

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Speaker 9: Well, look, in the thirty years are super Ugby. They've

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Speaker 9: only made it a three start twice, once in ninety

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Speaker 9: ninety six and once in twenty twenty four, when when

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Speaker 9: I had that season went down, So what's going on

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Speaker 9: the Crusaders. Look, I just think they've come up against

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Speaker 9: two spirited sides to start the Highlanders game right in

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Speaker 9: the balance there at the end, you know, they defended

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Speaker 9: Stalley that could have easily been a penalty to the

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Speaker 9: Crusaders in round one. They win that game Brumby's Again,

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Speaker 9: I mean that that game was in the balance at

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Speaker 9: half time, and I don't think the Crusaders expected the

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Speaker 9: Brumbies to cack on like they did, and they did

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Speaker 9: so I guess it's early season. I think we will

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Speaker 9: see a response tonight from the Crusaders, in particular with

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Speaker 9: too Hamilton, Hamilton's boys, SiZ School old boys in there

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Speaker 9: and nojoeam and Taki. I'm looking forward to playing in

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Speaker 9: front of front of the Chiefs faif also, look, I

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Speaker 9: don't think it's it's season done hips of the Crusaders

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Speaker 9: by any streets. They're laden with all blacks. They've got

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Speaker 9: a couple of big derbies to come as well against

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Speaker 9: the Blows and Highland as the end too, so I

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Speaker 9: think they can turn it around by all means.

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Speaker 3: Did you see what Justin Marshall said about Razors sacking.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I did.

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Speaker 19: Do you believe it?

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Speaker 15: Well, first of all, why would you say it if

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Speaker 15: it wasn't true? But you know, I tell you what.

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Speaker 15: If it was the case, it's women disgraceful from MD

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Speaker 15: and but I genuinely hope it's not the case and

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Speaker 15: that he's, you know, just looking for headline. I think

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Speaker 15: the thing that did surprise me is there was perfect

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Speaker 15: reporting around the All Blacks, you know, twenty twenty five

1330
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Speaker 15: Rugby Championship collapse and other underpower results, so his position

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01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 15: was on intense scrutiny for months. This was not a surprise.

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Speaker 15: So and coaches at that level they really get blindsided

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Speaker 15: without some sort of prior CEO board conversation. So you know,

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Speaker 15: I think that it was more likely a combination of

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Speaker 15: results not matchingly your Blacks expectations in a post World

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Speaker 15: Cup cycle. And you know the fact that Raider didn't

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Speaker 15: say anything post announcement does suggest that he knew the score.

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Speaker 15: He maybe negotiated an exit to preserve his legacy rather

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Speaker 15: than your perhaps safe a living battle.

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Speaker 3: Actually, why I'm surprised by this comment from Justin Marshall

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Speaker 3: Jeff Jeffers because we had Andrew Saville on My Costings show,

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Speaker 3: like the week before Christmas, I was covering for Mike

1343
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 3: and he said, the thing to look forward to next year,

1344
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Speaker 3: like to look for next year is potentially a new coach.

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Speaker 3: So if Andrew Saville's hearing things, surely Rais has heard it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah a right, Nick you said, I mean, like, if

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Speaker 9: you're truly blindsided, Delbecs would have been performing well and

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Speaker 9: there would have been a couple of ructions with it

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01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 9: and then he was gone. But look, I think the

1350
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Speaker 9: writing was on the wall in terms of the results,

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Speaker 9: that the public sentiment was there around around that, and

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Speaker 9: the expectations they go with the All Blacks. So look, naturally,

1353
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 9: you know, razers can be extremely disappointed. He wanted to

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Speaker 9: keep their job. But that's obviously this conversation. How with

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Speaker 9: Marsha guys played with professionally and and with it the

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Speaker 9: All Blacks, So I can understand. But again that's the

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Speaker 9: process he Zellan Rugby went through, and like Nick you said,

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Speaker 9: I think you know there was a degree of the

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Speaker 9: writing on the wall when that announced it came.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, Hey, guys, go and enjoy the cricket and

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Speaker 3: enjoy your weekends. Thank you so much, Jeff mctage, and

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Speaker 3: thank you CRUs our sports huddle this evening, it's seven

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Speaker 3: away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Dupless Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: my Ard Radio powered by News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Heather, I just saw the plate P before I go

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Speaker 3: at to a cow bridge. That is exciting. That is

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Speaker 3: full circle. So in the US they now have P

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Speaker 3: before you go, and we absolutely have P before I go.

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Speaker 3: Cruising around the ORNI fedo to a cow area, which

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Speaker 3: by the way is my stomping ground. So so I

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Speaker 3: feel quite proud of that. I needed to tell you.

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Speaker 3: Actually I've completely forgot to tell you this, but as

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Speaker 3: a result of Netflix walking away from the Warner Brothers deal,

1375
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 3: the stock shot up nearly ten percent in the after

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Speaker 3: hours trading. So that suggests that everybody else didn't think

1377
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Speaker 3: it was as good as a good good an idea

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Speaker 3: as Netflix did. Okay, here we go. I have got

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Speaker 3: some happy fashion news for you. If you're a young

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01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 3: man or an older matter fairy, frankly, whatever kind of

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Speaker 3: man you like to dress up. Trouser braces are back.

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01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 3: Trouser braces have been declared to be back by the

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01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 3: UK papers on account of the fact that the Becon

1384
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 3: Boys have been spotted wearing them. One of the Becon boys,

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Speaker 3: I can't really remember. I don't really know which one

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Speaker 3: is which. When I look at the photo, I just

1387
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Speaker 3: look they just I don't know which one I'm looking at.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, one of them, two of them, we're wearing

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Speaker 3: it at we're wearing the trouser braces at Cruises twenty

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Speaker 3: first And I don't know which one of the two,

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Speaker 3: but one of them had them in bright red, like

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Speaker 3: you know, like nineteen eighties bright red, Like David Bowie

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Speaker 3: goes to town in the nineteen eighties on his trouser

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Speaker 3: braces and bright red. So if you are forward fashion

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Speaker 3: and if you don't mind looking a little bit on

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Speaker 3: the camp site and attracting attention, get your trouser braces out. Apparently,

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Speaker 3: though it's really naff to get the ones with the

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Speaker 3: crocodile clips, which is the only ones I even knew existed.

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Speaker 3: Apparently you can get ones with leather things that you

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Speaker 3: button onto your pants with a little bit, and that

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01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 3: just seems completely over the top. But the crocodile ones

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01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 3: are as bad as having a pre tied bow tie. Apparently,

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01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 3: but whatever, just get them out. We'll talk to turners

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Speaker 3: and growers next May.

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Speaker 4: What's up, what's down? What were the major calls and

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Speaker 4: how will it affect the economy.

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Speaker 1: The big business questions on the Business Hour with Heather

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Speaker 1: due for c Allen and Mass insurance and investments.

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Speaker 4: Your futures in good hands?

1410
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Speaker 3: Used talks be even in coming up in the next hour.

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Speaker 3: The Greens have won that by election in the UK.

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Speaker 3: This is really really bad for the labor Prime Minister

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Speaker 3: Kiir Starmer. We'll talk to Gavin Gray about that. Peter

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Speaker 3: Lewis will talk us through China winning from the new

1415
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 3: tariffs out of the US, and Barry Soopa will wrap

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Speaker 3: the political week. That was at seven past six.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: Premium apple demand is apparently the reason for a strong

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01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 3: financial result for t ANDNG Global. Its revenue has increased

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Speaker 3: by fourteen percent to one point six billion. It profit

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01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 3: after tax is sixteen million, and that's up from a

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Speaker 3: loss of about ten million dollars. The chief executive is

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Speaker 3: Gareth Edgecombe. Hi, Gareth, Hey a you the hoe's loving

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Speaker 3: the apples so much.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, generally it's across the world, in particular the Asian

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Speaker 20: markets and the US markets, and that's focused on our

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Speaker 20: premium brands of Jazz, Jolie, and Envy.

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Speaker 3: How do you decide which are the premium brands?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, really good question. We spend a lot of time

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Speaker 20: with starting with our genetics company, which screens a whole

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Speaker 20: lot of apples from around the world from many different

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Speaker 20: breeding programs, and we've got an extensive consumer and orcharding

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Speaker 20: research team that actually screened for the best tasting apples

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Speaker 20: and the best growing apples, and from that we get

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Speaker 20: a long list down to a very very shortlist, and

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Speaker 20: the best candidates we then try and scale up into

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01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 20: large scale brands. And so, for example, the Jazz and

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01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 20: Enview brands, they've been commercialized for the Enview brand for

1439
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 20: over fifteen years, as we've looked a scale up, and

1440
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 20: that's based on the fact that it's just in all

1441
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 20: of those key markets, has the attributes of great appearance,

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01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 20: great taste, great crunch, and great flavor. Yeah and yeah,

1443
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 20: that's really how we determine it.

1444
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 3: What about this Look, sorry, this is going to be

1445
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 3: a slightly bizarre line of questioning, but what about juiciness?

1446
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 3: Because we had a discussion about this on the show

1447
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 3: sometime ago A bit of a juicy apple is a

1448
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 3: good thing. You don't want a dry thing. But sometimes

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Speaker 3: they overjuice and that's almost as annoying.

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01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,759
Speaker 20: Yeah, it's one of those complex things where it's crunch

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01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 20: and juiciness and flavor all combined and it's hard to

1452
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,560
Speaker 20: break apart. But when consumers describe what they like, they

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01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 20: it's a combination that.

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Speaker 4: They really like.

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01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean what I'm talking about with too much juice?

1456
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Speaker 3: Is that just a me thing? Or is that normal?

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01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 20: I'm not really sure. I know what you mean when

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01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 20: you think about a nashy pair are pretty juicy, aren't they?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know, like an apple. The thing about

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Speaker 3: the apple which is great, which I'm telling the guy

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Speaker 3: who's the chief executive of the business, But the thing

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Speaker 3: about the apple it's great, is that it is a

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01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 3: free snack, isn't it? Like you can eat your thing

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01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 3: and then you can throw it away and you're not

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01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 3: left with juice all over your hands. Anyway, as I say,

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Speaker 3: bizire line of question, and forget that we even went there.

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Speaker 3: Tell me about what's going on with the berry.

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Speaker 4: Business, the very business.

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Speaker 20: So we're relatively new into scaling up our bury business,

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Speaker 20: and that's on the back of again the genetics work

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01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:23,799
Speaker 20: to identify really great tasting consumer berries. Large generally larger

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01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 20: berries are what consumers prefer, and working with the Plant

1473
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 20: and Food or the by Economy Science Institute as it's

1474
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 20: now called, we've been working with them on identifying those

1475
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Speaker 20: genetics and then looking to scale those globally. We've got

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Speaker 20: a really good program in Australia. We've got another program

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Speaker 20: growing up north in Kaikoe and those are servicing the

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01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 20: domestic markets more locally. And then we've got a recent

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Speaker 20: partnership with a really large grower in the US called

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Speaker 20: California Giant, and in that program we're looking to crack

1481
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:02,799
Speaker 20: into the US market by bringing those species and genetics

1482
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 20: into the US market and scaling up over the next

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Speaker 20: few years.

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Speaker 3: So when you say a larger berry, do you mean,

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Speaker 3: for example, if we're going to go out and buy

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Speaker 3: a pun of strawberries, we want them to be bigger strawberries.

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Speaker 20: Yep, I think so strawberries are large and red, but

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Speaker 20: there's probably a limit. Mostly I'm focusing on when I

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01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 20: say that larger berries is the blueberries. You know, there's

1490
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Speaker 20: a if you've gone into the supermarkets and seen those

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01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 20: jumbo berries that are slightly smaller that are grape and

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01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 20: they're really crunchy and crispy and right.

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01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 3: We've discussed this, yep, we've discussed this on the show

1494
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 3: as well. So the what I had wondered when we

1495
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 3: had a chat about this is are you trading flavor

1496
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 3: because generally when something is smaller, it's more concentrated.

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01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 20: Yeah, it can, it can be. And again that's part

1498
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 20: of the selection is if we want to go and

1499
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,759
Speaker 20: get that ideal size, it can't be compromised in taste

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Speaker 20: and flavor and crunch.

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01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 3: Why do people want their blueberries to be bigger?

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01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 20: Pass I think there's probably a natural propability and crunch

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01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:04,640
Speaker 20: that people snack on.

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01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, Now, how much of a problem is

1505
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 3: China to your business and them trying to rip off

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01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 3: some of your brands?

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01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 20: Well on China itself overall, First of all, it's a

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Speaker 20: fantastic consumer market for us. And when we look at

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01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 20: the growth profile going forward, particularly the Envy brand large, red,

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01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 20: crunchy and sweet, and that's a preferred product profile for China.

1511
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 20: We're getting great growth in that across the market, across

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01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 20: all forms in the market, modern trade and online trade

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01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 20: and traditional trade. We see that continuing and growing strongly

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01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 20: into the future. It's a great, great market. We've also

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Speaker 20: partnered with local partners in China to grow our Envy

1516
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 20: brand and that is to be able to satisfy some

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01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 20: local demand, but also to make sure that we are

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01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 20: working locally to protect our IP. And so with any

1519
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 20: you know, it's like with anything that's really good, you'll

1520
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:05,799
Speaker 20: get people trying to rip off that IP. And we

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01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 20: are quite vigilant trying to look around the world about

1522
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 20: where we've either got brand rip off where it's just

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01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 20: taking the brand and pretending to be the same species,

1524
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 20: or in fact someone's actually stolen material and then planted

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01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 20: it and in that case we actually have to do

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01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 20: a genetic test to prove it. And in the case

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01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 20: in China, we actually saw that occur. Somehow someone got

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01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 20: some material from around the world and planted it. We

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01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,759
Speaker 20: were able to trace that down and working through the

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01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 20: court system in China, get a ruling in favor of

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01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 20: us to actually get that removed and finds allocated. So

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01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:43,560
Speaker 20: we're really pleased that the Chinese system has upheld the

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01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 20: core global IP protection laws and that's made made it

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01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 20: really easy for us to ensure that we're protecting the

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01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 20: brand going forward. Well, sorry, not easy, but easier because

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01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 20: of the support of the Chinese government.

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01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Gareth, it's good to talk to you. Thank you

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01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 3: very much, Garethage. Can he and g Global chief executive?

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01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:04,719
Speaker 3: How do you think that was different?

1540
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 4: That?

1541
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:06,959
Speaker 3: I reckon that would have to be the weirdest conversation

1542
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 3: that any any boss of any company reporting in this

1543
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 3: season has has been forced to have. How do you

1544
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 3: think he feels.

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01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 22: I would love to know if anyone on the investor

1546
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 22: call that he inevitably had to do after the result

1547
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 22: asked if the apples were two Josiah.

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01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he probably. I don't know. Would he

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01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 3: be stoked to be like, yeah, shouldn't ask anything hard

1550
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 3: about the numbers.

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01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 22: But the answers as well.

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01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 3: I mean, he knows his apples. He did not have

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01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 3: an answer for why the blueberries are supposed to be

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01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 3: as big.

1555
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 22: As they ask because that doesn't make any sense.

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01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 3: No one knows, no one knows what's going on there.

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01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 3: By the way, Chersi's is just proving time and time

1558
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 3: again and yet again how important it has become to investing.

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01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 3: It reckons that it channeled about twelve million dollars of

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01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 3: retail demand into each of those institutional placements that form

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01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 3: part of Jet Genesis and contacts recent capital raises. Now

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01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 3: they reckon that this represents about seven to eight thousand

1563
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 3: investors who applied within five hours each time. I think

1564
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 3: each time was five hours in order to get to

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01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 3: get you're interested in. They say, if you just look

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01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 3: at Genesis, Genesis had a one hundred million dollar placement,

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01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 3: Government took half of that. That leaves fifty million dollars.

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01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 3: Twelve million dollars from Chezy's makes Cheerzi's order large enough

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01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 3: to rival some institutional orders. It's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 1: A quarter past, it's the Heather Dupascy Allen Drive Full

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01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: Show podcast on my Heart Radio powered by News Talks EBB,

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01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather Duplessy

1573
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: Allen on the Business Hour with MAS Insurance and Investments.

1574
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 4: Your futures in good hands, US Talks EDB.

1575
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, given the situation that's unfolding with

1576
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 3: Pakistan and Afghanistan now being an open war with each other,

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01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 3: we are going to chat to Kamal Hide. This is

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01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 3: Al Jazeera's correspondent in Pakistan. He's on his way to

1579
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 3: the border. He will join us in twenty minutes and

1580
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 3: just give us the lowdown on what is happening there.

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Speaker 3: Right now, it's eighteen past six and Barry Sopauer, senior

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01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 3: political correspondent, obviously raps the political week that was. Welcome back, Barry,

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01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 3: Thank you, Heather.

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01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 7: Nice to be hearing here.

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01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,759
Speaker 3: Okay, so kind of went the way that you'd expected

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01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 3: to go. But I think probably most people would be

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01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:02,719
Speaker 3: on the side of the government with the rough sleepers

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01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 3: move on orders right.

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01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 7: Oh you know, I think overwhelmingly the majority of the

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01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 7: public would say they don't want to see rough sleepers

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01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 7: in the street and have to cope with the abuse.

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01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,879
Speaker 7: I was abused yet again today by a rough sleeper,

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01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 7: not that I care that much. I've actually genuinely feel

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01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 7: sorry for them because I think they've got big mental issues.

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01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 7: In the old days, of course, we had places like

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01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 7: and I'm not praising them because they weren't to be lauded,

1597
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 7: but you had institutions that people could go and get help,

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01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 7: and they've gone now.

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01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 3: So it's not acceptable. It is not acceptible, and I

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01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 3: don't think that we should think it's acceptable to walk

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01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 3: down the street that you pay rates at for and

1602
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 3: then just have people hurling abuse at you for no reason.

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01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 7: No it's not. But you know, the underlying problems are

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01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,600
Speaker 7: appalling because if you look at anyone, I mean this

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01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 7: person that abused me to almost turned around to have

1606
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 7: a chat and say, you know, what is your problem?

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01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 7: But I thought it would be nonsense because the man

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01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 7: was so far gone on something because he wasn't making

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01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 7: any sense. I think it's terrible. But the problem is,

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01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 7: I've said, with his legislation, as you move them on, moved,

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01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 7: they've got to be out of the area for twenty

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01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 7: four hours. What do they do? Presumably they come back.

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01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 7: If you look at Cranger Happy Road, which I call

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01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 7: crack a Happy Road, and having walked up there on

1615
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 7: a number of occasions seeing the drugs being passed around,

1616
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 7: you go, you know, what hope is there for these people?

1617
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 7: And to move them on? Really, I think you have

1618
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 7: to have surround that with some sort of mental facility

1619
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 7: that these people can come right in.

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01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, those figures and the victims of crime figures that

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01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 3: the government released this week is something of a victory

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01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 3: for them, aren't they absolutely.

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01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 7: I mean, there's no two ways to look at this.

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01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 7: And you know, if you go through and I won't

1625
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 7: go through them now, but if you go through the

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01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 7: details of how these crime figures were reached, forty nine

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01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 7: thousand fewer crimes of violence, I feel comfortable, quite honestly

1628
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,759
Speaker 7: not seeing a gang patch all the time on the street,

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01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 7: and you'd see them every day, not just here in

1630
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 7: Auckland but around the country as well. I think, you know,

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01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 7: they've been to some extent, only some extent neutralized. I'm

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01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 7: sure there's as much criminal activity going on behind the

1633
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 7: scenes there. But nevertheless, and the other thing is TV

1634
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 7: and Z saying the gang numbers are now three more

1635
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 7: than the police in New Zealand. Well, gang numbers are

1636
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 7: indeterminate basically, you know, you can't pick them out for

1637
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 7: their patches. I don't know how they arrive at a figure,

1638
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 7: and I tried to find out virtually impossible.

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01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, now, the road rules the shakeup that Bush is doing.

1640
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 3: This is common sense and I think most people will

1641
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 3: be okay with it. But Bush is very good at

1642
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:06,839
Speaker 3: these kinds of little things, isn't he, Yes.

1643
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 7: He is he, you know, and they seem mine but

1644
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 7: you know, if I wasn't aware that if you're under

1645
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 7: twelve it's illegal to ride on a footpath. I mean

1646
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 7: I grew up where I knew very well it was

1647
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 7: not to be done riding on a footpath. We didn't

1648
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 7: have the level of traffic that we've got today. So

1649
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 7: you know, I think just basically rewriting some of the

1650
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 7: more minor laws that like allowing buses to go and

1651
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 7: what have you, I think these should be much welcomed

1652
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 7: and the public will now be able to comment on them.

1653
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 3: Okay, so have you managed that? I sent you away

1654
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 3: yesterday with the task of finding out what just sent

1655
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 3: do his job?

1656
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 7: Well, I heard Mike Hosking this morning attacking vociferously anybody

1657
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 7: who ran as story about Jasin Dada. See, I just

1658
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 7: don't understand because I am sure a lot of people

1659
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 7: in New Zealand like reading that story, and.

1660
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 3: People in the world like reading it, which is why

1661
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 3: the UK broke the.

1662
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 7: Soul that might should get with it. When it comes

1663
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 7: to journalism and what is journalism and what is journalism?

1664
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 7: It's not tittle tattle, is not click bait.

1665
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,839
Speaker 3: It's you know, but it probably is tittle tattle and clickbait.

1666
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 3: Don't like that, but it's interesting to me.

1667
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 7: It's interesting a former Prime Minister of New Zealand has

1668
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 7: never lived here since the election, hasn't been basically. I

1669
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,679
Speaker 7: know she's been back in the country a few times,

1670
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 7: but not that much. I mean she was five years

1671
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 7: the Prime minister.

1672
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 3: Barry listen, thank you very much. As always a Barrisoper,

1673
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 3: senior political correspondent. Rapping the political week that was six

1674
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 3: twenty three.

1675
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro, micro or just plain economics, it's all

1676
01:19:56,479 --> 01:20:00,560
Speaker 1: on the business hour and the dupe and mas insurance

1677
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:01,440
Speaker 1: and investments.

1678
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 4: Your futures in good hands us jog zevvy.

1679
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 3: Right, So I've had a message from Troy Buko was

1680
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 3: talking about him just before five o'clock. He wants me

1681
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 3: to clarify his primary motivation for forcing stuff out of

1682
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,600
Speaker 3: the building is not to mess with stuff. It is

1683
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 3: actually to make money because the building can make more money. However,

1684
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 3: he's not terribly unhappy about putting stuff in a predicament,

1685
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 3: which brings me to the other thing that I was

1686
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 3: going to tell you about. Read the media. The second

1687
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 3: media move that may not look that big but could

1688
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 3: potentially be in the futures here at enz ME. If

1689
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 3: you remember the attempted board takeover last year, you'll remember

1690
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 3: Jim Jim Greennan was a significant figure, and that Jim

1691
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 3: has now for the second time, increased his shareholding in

1692
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 3: end zed Me. He's brought another one million shares. He

1693
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 3: now has roughly nineteen percent. Takeover rules start to apply

1694
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 3: if any shareholder wants to acquire more than twenty percent

1695
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 3: of a publicly listed company. Six twenty six, There's no

1696
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 3: business like show business. People magazine is reporting that Pink

1697
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 3: has separated from her husband. She's been married to Carry

1698
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 3: Heart for twenty years, but a source close to the

1699
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,720
Speaker 3: couple says they headed for divorce. The only problem is

1700
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 3: no one told Pink.

1701
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 10: That, So I was just alerted to the fact that

1702
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 10: I'm separated from my husband. Thank you for letting me know.

1703
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 3: I was wondering, would you also like to tell our

1704
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 3: children My fourteen year old and nine year old are

1705
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:17,919
Speaker 3: also unaware?

1706
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 10: Or do you maybe want to talk about the fact

1707
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:24,480
Speaker 10: that I got nominated the first year I was eligible

1708
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 10: for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Do you

1709
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,759
Speaker 10: want to talk about my accomplishments.

1710
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 6: Or do you only want to talk about my supposed demise,

1711
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 6: so fake news, not true.

1712
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 7: You can hate that term.

1713
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 3: Now the media haven't back down. They're still running the story.

1714
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 3: They're just adding the video to it. And it's not

1715
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 3: like the allegations are without merit because the couple haven't

1716
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 3: been seen in public together since September. They were tense,

1717
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 3: apparently not wearing their wedding rings, and for their twentieth

1718
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:53,679
Speaker 3: anniversary in January, neither celebrated on social media, which is lame, yes,

1719
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 3: but it's quite weird for them. And you know what

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Speaker 3: they say. Where there's smoke, there's we're off to Pakistan next.

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Speaker 3: On this war with Afghanistan so much.

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Speaker 4: I think it must be.

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Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the Business Hour

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01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 1: with header dupic Allen and Mass Insurance and Investments, your

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01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 1: futures in good hands used talks, I'd be.

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Speaker 3: It's the UK in about ten minutes with Gavin Gray.

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01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 3: Because of course, the loss of that by election for

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01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 3: Labor is very bad for Kiir Starma, so stand by

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Speaker 3: and Peter lewis out of Hong Kong shortly. Right now,

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Speaker 3: it's twenty five away from seven now. As I mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 3: Pakistan's defense minister has declared open war on the Afghanistan

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Speaker 3: Taliban Pakistan has carried out strikes on the capital of

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Speaker 3: Kabul overnight there time Al Jazeera's Pakistan correspondent Kamal Hydas

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Speaker 3: with us now Hi Kamal.

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Speaker 4: Ah Hi there.

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Speaker 3: How significant is the declaration of open war.

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Speaker 12: This is indeed extremely important given the fact that last night,

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Speaker 12: at about fifteen GMT Thursday evening, the Avran side decided

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Speaker 12: to launch major strikes across the border and they said

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Speaker 12: that this was in retaliation for earlier Pakistani air strikes

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Speaker 12: on Avran soil, in which Pakistan said that they had

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Speaker 12: attacked and targeted isil and terry Gittaliban Pakistan positions, which

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01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 12: Pakistan flames for carrying a spate of bombings inside Pakistan.

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Speaker 12: The Avran site then said that they would retaliate with

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Speaker 12: a measured response. However, last night attack covered a wide

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01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 12: area of the border, starting all the way from the

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Speaker 12: north that is Chitral and several districts, So indeed a

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Speaker 12: large attack carried out by the Avran forces, which then

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Speaker 12: prompted the Pakistani forces to retaliate. Both sides, of course,

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Speaker 12: are giving aircounts of claims and counterclaims of having infected

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Speaker 12: heavy casualties on the other side, and Pakistan then carrying

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Speaker 12: out air strikes at least at several locations including kabl Kandahar, Paktia,

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Speaker 12: Paktika and saying that they have destroyed ammunition dams, They've

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Speaker 12: destroyed headquarters of the Taliban forces in Afghanistan. So, indeed,

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01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 12: the grave escalation probably the worst fighting that we have

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Speaker 12: seen since the Taliban came into power.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, now, obviously Pakistan will have the superior military

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Speaker 3: like by a long shot, So what is the goal

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Speaker 3: here from Pakistan?

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Speaker 12: Well, as you mentioned, the Taliban do not have the

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Speaker 12: air power. Pakistan is using its air assets and that

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Speaker 12: of course puts Pakistan at an advantage. The Afghan side

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Speaker 12: would be really lying more on asymmetrical warfare, but they

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Speaker 12: will not have the advantage of having a cover, So

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Speaker 12: Pakistan feeling confident. However, if this conflict prolongs, it does

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Speaker 12: not augur well for either side. We have heard that

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Speaker 12: the Iranian Foreign Minister as well as the Saudi Foreign

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Speaker 12: Minister have said that they are willing to try to

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Speaker 12: mediate between these two countries. Earlier, Qatar and Turkey mediated

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Speaker 12: after clashes in October last year, however, there was no

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Speaker 12: result in resolving the issue. There was a ceasefire, but

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Speaker 12: after that there were a spate of attacks inside Pakistan,

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Speaker 12: including a deadly suicide attack on a mosque Shia mosque

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Speaker 12: just on the outskirts of Islamabad, and then several attacks

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Speaker 12: on its security forces. Will then prompt it the Pakistanis

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01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 12: to carry out strikes, which of course then the Afghan reprisal.

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Speaker 12: But it's important to note that while the Afghan said

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Speaker 12: they were civilian casualties in Ningerha Province, they did not

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Speaker 12: speak much about the attacks in Paktika Province, which also

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Speaker 12: borders Pakistan South Waziristan region, which of course has seen

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Speaker 12: a lot of violence over the past few years. They

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Speaker 12: did not divulge the casualties and there are, of course,

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Speaker 12: according to Pakistani intelligence reports that they were able to

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Speaker 12: kill a number of the EGA, Taliban Pakistan and ISL

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Speaker 12: groups that are taking sanctuary on Afghan soil. So indeed,

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Speaker 12: a major escalation. The important thing to see now is

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Speaker 12: whether the friendly countries will be able to cool tempers

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Speaker 12: on both sides. Pakistan of course saying that they're going

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Speaker 12: to launch an offensive and they're going to carry out

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Speaker 12: further air strikes UH inside Afghanis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kamal, thanks very much for running us through the

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Speaker 3: detail there. Kamal Hyder Al Jazeera Pakistan correspondent, twenty away from.

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Speaker 4: Seven Ever, do for Ellen's now.

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Speaker 3: Peter lewis our Asia Business correspondent. Hi, Peter, Hey, good evening, Heather.

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Speaker 3: So does China? I mean, I imagine China comes out

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01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 3: of this new tariff rate a little bit better, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: It does.

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Speaker 27: Ironically, the US has sort of got this the wrong

1799
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 27: way round in that the countries that it is most

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Speaker 27: criticized for trade barriers are seeing under this new regime

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01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 27: their tariffs reduce, and then countries like Japan, which have

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01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 27: been fairly good allies of the US, are seeing their.

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Speaker 7: Tariff rates go up.

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Speaker 26: And China in particular has been the big beneficiary of this,

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01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 26: this new global ten percent fifteen percent tariff. They're seeing

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Speaker 26: their overall tariff right fall from around thirty seven percent

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Speaker 26: to twenty one percent.

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Speaker 3: Peter, You're line is so dodgy that we're we're gonna

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Speaker 3: bail out of it, take a break and call you back,

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Speaker 3: and hopefully the line will be better by the time

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Speaker 3: we get back. To you, Peter Lewis, Asia Business correspondent

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Speaker 3: with them and just can I just draw something new

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Speaker 3: to your attention. Those two dogs that apparently attack the

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Speaker 3: father and the son, remember us telling you about this

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01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 3: earlier that week this week in Brindwa and christ Church,

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01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,760
Speaker 3: and the father put the boy on the bonnet of

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01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 3: the car to try to save them. They both lived

1818
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Speaker 3: in the end and everything is fine. Those two dogs

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Speaker 3: have been killed. They are both American bulldog cross dogs.

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Speaker 3: What a surprise nineteen away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Ever, it's to do with money. It matters to you.

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01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy Allen and Mas Insurance

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01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 1: and investments on your futures in good hands used dogs,

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Speaker 1: that'd be right.

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01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 3: Gavin Grays with us and just to tick, we've managed

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Speaker 3: to get Peter Lewis back on the line.

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Speaker 19: Peter, you there, I'm here for that.

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01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 3: No, not your fault. Thousand times better. Now, how was

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Speaker 3: it that there have been more imports into the US? Well,

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Speaker 3: I suppose exports to the US from Taiwan than from China.

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Speaker 18: That's correct. And this is one of the ways in

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Speaker 18: which Donald Trump's tarot's are really distorting trade because China

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Speaker 18: has traditionally been the biggest exporter for decades now to

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Speaker 18: the US. But what we're seeing is US purchases from

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01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:21,680
Speaker 18: China plunging, and while imports from Taiwan have more than

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Speaker 18: double though were about twenty four billion dollars in December. Now.

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Speaker 18: Of course that is made up almost entirely by semiconductors,

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Speaker 18: because Taiwan has Taiwan's semiconduct manufacturing company, the world's largest

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Speaker 18: manufacturer of chips, and they provide all the chips for

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Speaker 18: Navidia and other companies that are in such short supply

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01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 18: and so needed for the ai Revolution. But it's having

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Speaker 18: a big impact on supply chains and really when at

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Speaker 18: the moment, Donald Trump is focusing a lot of his

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Speaker 18: intentions on China, who's going to visit Beijing in about

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01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 18: a month's time to try and get a new trade

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Speaker 18: deal in many ways, if he wants to get that

1847
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:11,719
Speaker 18: trade deficit down in the way that he's talking about,

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Speaker 18: he really needs to focus on Taiwan. Now that this

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Speaker 18: Taiwan is a very difficult issue obviously for China, but

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Speaker 18: there's really nothing that China can do about the US

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Speaker 18: trade deficit with Taiwan because it's a purely economic issue,

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Speaker 18: very much related to the need to import semiconductors.

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Speaker 3: Now you make a very good point that, Peter, it's

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Speaker 3: good to talk to you, Thanks mate, Peter Lewis, Asia

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Speaker 3: Business Correspondent. Hither please don't confuse in the American football

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Speaker 3: teria with an American bulldog. American bulldogs are very different.

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Speaker 3: It's extremely unusual to hear an American bulldog attacking anyone

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01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 3: you might want to find it. And that's actually do

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Speaker 3: you know what, James fairpoint, that is a mistake that

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Speaker 3: I did just make. Thank you fourteen away from seven.

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Speaker 4: Heither do for c L.

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Speaker 3: Gavin Gray are UK correspondents with us Elo Gavin Hi.

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Speaker 3: Hell oh that by election Kirstarma cannot be pleased with that.

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Speaker 25: No bruising, bruising stuff for him and the Labor Party. Overnight,

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Speaker 25: the party of government at the moment, there was a

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01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 25: by election at Gordon and Denton. It's a safe Labor

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01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:15,679
Speaker 25: area in the northwest of England Manchester area and it's

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Speaker 25: their sixth safest seat. At least it was because overnight

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01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 25: here they came in in third place in a by

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Speaker 25: election behind the Green Party who won their first ever

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Speaker 25: by election, and then Reform UK now the Gordon and

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Speaker 25: Denton area, the constituency has a very very high proportion

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Speaker 25: of Muslim religious representation, and consequently interesting that Reform has

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Speaker 25: said this is a dangerous president that's been set here

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01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 25: in that many people simply voted because the Green Party

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01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:56,599
Speaker 25: had been representing with a candidate who was very strongly

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Speaker 25: supporting Gaza and Palestine. There are other issues at state.

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01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 25: There are also reports of people colluding in the same booth,

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Speaker 25: which election observers say they witness, which is obviously very concerning.

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Speaker 25: But the Green Party a great win for them overnight

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Speaker 25: here and certainly one that turned around a huge, huge

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Speaker 25: majority that Labor had and as I said, if they

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01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 25: can win and turn around the sixth safest seat, then

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Speaker 25: the smaller parties like the Green Party and Light Reformer

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Speaker 25: UK are going to show very very well at the

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Speaker 25: next general election if things stay the way they are now.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So which brings us to the next question, is

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Speaker 3: this enough to start a move against kir Starma again?

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Speaker 25: I think it's certainly a first step on a number

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Speaker 25: of steps in the next few weeks, because in May

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01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:49,040
Speaker 25: it seems a long way away. But of course it's

1892
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 25: really only two months where he start and May we

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01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 25: get the local council elections and if this kind of

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01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 25: sway away from Sir Keir Starmer continues there, then I

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01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 25: think the game really will be out there in place already.

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Speaker 25: This will simply exacerbate them. But then if they do

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01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 25: badly across the country during those local elections in May,

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Speaker 25: there is no doubt that the mood music is going

1899
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 25: to swing dramatically away from secure Starma and that movement

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01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 25: to get rid of him. I think we're really sharp.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Interesting. Now, whenever we pedestrianize the street in New Zealand,

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01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 3: we flip out, how's it going down with you guys

1904
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 3: about Oxford Street?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, so one of the world's busiest and most well

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01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 25: known shopping streets is to be pedestrianized. The mayor has

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01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 25: just given it a final approval and there are going

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01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 25: to be many local traffic diversions now, as you can

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01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:43,799
Speaker 25: imagine for taxi drivers, motorists, delivery drivers into that hugely

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Speaker 25: busy retail area. It's going to be very, very difficult.

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Speaker 25: But the mayor says this is what Londoners want and

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01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 25: what they deserve for a better environment and a more

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01:33:55,000 --> 01:34:00,759
Speaker 25: pleasant shopping experience. So it'll be closed to motorized vehicles, buses, taxis,

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Speaker 25: private hire vehicles, cycles, scooters and even those petticabs that

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01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 25: are so popular in London at the moment.

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Speaker 4: Now, how on earth do you.

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Speaker 25: Think are shop's going to be topped up with new stock. Well,

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Speaker 25: the answer is they'll have access from midnight to seven am.

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01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 25: Well that's double time for all those delivery drivers and

1920
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 25: people that have to remain at the shop in order

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01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 25: to get access to it, and so the busy roads

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01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 25: alongside again to get even busier, and well, well you know,

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01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 25: I think a lot of people, particularly tourists, will probably

1924
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:35,720
Speaker 25: think this is a great idea, but I think for

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01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 25: some people in London it's going to prove a real,

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01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 25: real nightmare trying to work around it.

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Speaker 3: Interesting stuff. Kevin, thanks very much, look after yourself and

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Speaker 3: enjoy the Weekendkevin Gray are UK correspondent. So the woman

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Speaker 3: who has won this by election for the Green Party

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Speaker 3: is a woman called Hannah Spencer and her job is

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Speaker 3: that she's a plumber.

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Speaker 4: How cool is that?

1933
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Speaker 3: A Green plumner tin away from seven and a lady

1934
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Speaker 3: plumner tin away from seven.

1935
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Speaker 4: It's the hit toople.

1936
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1937
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Speaker 3: Do you know what, I can't explain it, but I

1939
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Speaker 3: have this weird fascination with early early Homo sapiens, like

1940
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Speaker 3: as an early modern humans mating with Neanderthals. It sounds

1941
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 3: really weird. I mean, like saying that out loud, what

1942
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Speaker 3: have we used.

1943
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Speaker 22: To call this our zombie als?

1944
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the show and we'd.

1945
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Speaker 22: Suddenly start talking about Neanderthal's face mating with Homo safiya.

1946
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Speaker 3: Last half hour of the show. We're definitely deep in

1947
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Speaker 3: that at the end of a Friday. I don't know

1948
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Speaker 3: why are we saying that out loud? Makes me sound

1949
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Speaker 3: like a total creep, but that's not what it's I

1950
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 3: don't know why I'm fascinated by this. I just I

1951
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 3: think because it probably sort of you know, it probably

1952
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Speaker 3: would shock some people to know that they're a little

1953
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Speaker 3: bit Neanderthal, particularly if you're white. If you're a white

1954
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Speaker 3: person as opposed to like an African person, you've got

1955
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Speaker 3: some Neanderthal in there. Anyway, what they found out by

1956
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 3: doing some research is that we had quite a pattern

1957
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Speaker 3: for this. So you didn't you didn't just hook up

1958
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 3: willy nilly, it was Neanderthal men and Homo sapiens women.

1959
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Speaker 3: That's how we liked it. We like down there neanderthal men,

1960
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Speaker 3: and if you think about it, Neanderthal men are quite

1961
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:08,640
Speaker 3: like rough and ready and sort of horror, you know,

1962
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:13,160
Speaker 3: like they look a bit like you know, bulky Marcho.

1963
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Speaker 3: And maybe that's why we like our men marchow nowadays,

1964
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I definitely have strayed from

1965
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Speaker 3: the science and some random thought over there, but anyway,

1966
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Speaker 3: I'm fascinated by it, and that research got me reading

1967
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:25,599
Speaker 3: it today on EV's really quickly what they're finding, and

1968
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 3: I reckon this is going to be a problem for

1969
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Speaker 3: us as well as ev uptake goes up here if

1970
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 3: it does what they're finding in the inner city of

1971
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:35,839
Speaker 3: Australian suburbs and places like Sydney and Melbourne as evs

1972
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 3: are a problem because often the dense housing there doesn't

1973
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Speaker 3: have off street car parking, right, so you buy a property,

1974
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 3: but you've got a park on the street, and so

1975
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 3: what they're doing to get the car's charges. They don't

1976
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 3: want to be driving around a random place to charge

1977
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:49,880
Speaker 3: the car all the time. They want to charge it

1978
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 3: out of their own house. So they're doing weird things

1979
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:54,439
Speaker 3: like they're dangling the car charging cables out the windows,

1980
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 3: they're stringing them through the trees, they're just laying them

1981
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,599
Speaker 3: across the footpaths, putting them through their gutters and drain

1982
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:02,560
Speaker 3: pipe using extension cords, which I shouldn't do if you

1983
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:04,759
Speaker 3: wanted to charge an EV, and as you can imagine,

1984
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:06,720
Speaker 3: Health and Safety in New Zealand would absolutely just go

1985
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:09,600
Speaker 3: nuts for all of this, like flip out completely. So

1986
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 3: what they're trying to do is find a solution. Got

1987
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:14,640
Speaker 3: two solutions so farther trying. One is to build a

1988
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:16,800
Speaker 3: boom pole that you kind of swing around and over

1989
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:18,719
Speaker 3: the top of the foot path. People can walk underneath

1990
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 3: it and then it booms it out to your car

1991
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 3: and the cable drops down. And the other one is

1992
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 3: to kind of cut a gully into the footpath with

1993
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,439
Speaker 3: a little metal cover that's flushed with a footpath. And

1994
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 3: they have to come up with something basically because and

1995
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Speaker 3: if I don't, this is one hundred percent going to

1996
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Speaker 3: be one of the worst parts about owning an EV

1997
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Speaker 3: in the center of a city.

1998
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Speaker 22: And I see red by split ends to play us

1999
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Speaker 22: out tonight as they are one of the artists playing

2000
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Speaker 22: at Electric Avenue. They're going to be playing from eight

2001
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Speaker 22: pm at Electric and Heavy tonight and ELECTRICU when you

2002
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Speaker 22: continues them tomorrow as well, there's going to be a

2003
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Speaker 22: second day. I think they're expecting fifty thousand people at

2004
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:53,439
Speaker 22: the festival as well, which is much bigger than even

2005
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 22: the big day out used to be.

2006
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Speaker 18: Wow.

2007
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Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, So other other acts on there, Dom Dollar

2008
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Speaker 22: Flow at us Peaking, Duck Basement, Jack, Sammy Virgie, Disco Lines,

2009
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Speaker 22: Dick Johnson's Huge.

2010
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a really is there a toadstool there?

2011
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Speaker 22: I think so today there's just so many, so.

2012
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Speaker 3: Many people want now answer this for me, and do

2013
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Speaker 3: you think that the Electric Avenue audience would appreciate like

2014
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:18,639
Speaker 3: how awesome these guys were in their time and how.

2015
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 22: Si Absolutely I have and I say that because I've

2016
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Speaker 22: been throughout Rhythm and Vines three times. Every time Dave

2017
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Speaker 22: Doublin went on stage, it was one of the biggest

2018
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Speaker 22: crowd reactions of the night. People appreciate their history and

2019
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Speaker 22: their New Zealand music history across all age.

2020
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Speaker 3: Thank you, good answer. That cheers me up a great deal. Right,

2021
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Speaker 3: you have a lovely weekend and I will see you

2022
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Speaker 3: on Monday. News Talks b.

2023
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