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Speaker 1: We have another look this morning at the state of

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Speaker 1: our kid's health. This is the Cure Kids Annual Child

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Speaker 1: Healthcare in New Zealand report. Hospitalizations are up, inequities are growing.

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Speaker 1: Are the CEO is Francisuda, who is with US France

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Speaker 1: this morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you, Enna, let me ask you the

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Speaker 1: controversial question. Take Maria and Pacific Islanders out of it.

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Speaker 1: What's the state of New Zealand kids health.

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Speaker 2: It's still challenging. We still have sixty thousand kids a

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Speaker 2: year being admitted to hospital for completely preventable illness. As yes,

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Speaker 2: Maria and Pacific contribute a lot to that number, but

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Speaker 2: we're talking about children who are facing inequity. The material

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Speaker 2: of race.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So when I look at the it's the usual stuff, respiratory, rheumatic, heart,

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Speaker 1: all of that. It's this crappy damp housing people on

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Speaker 1: benefits in certain socioeconomic areas that are the issue. Is

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Speaker 1: that fair or not?

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Speaker 2: No? That is fair, you know, And what we need

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Speaker 2: is national actions to reduce tild poverty with deliverable you know,

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Speaker 2: delivering equityble access to all of those things that you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: healthy and nutrition and appropriate housing. These are the most

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Speaker 2: important ways to positively impact the health and reduce the

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Speaker 2: risk factors across these five areas of health.

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Speaker 1: Here's my concern, I love them or not. The labor

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Speaker 1: government of the last three probably six years through an

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Speaker 1: astonishing amount of money at people in trouble. It didn't help, clearly,

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Speaker 1: did it, if your reports accurate.

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Speaker 2: Look, the thing is what we need is a national,

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Speaker 2: a New Zealand approach to these things.

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Speaker 1: And you know.

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Speaker 2: It means it doesn't matter what government's in. We've got

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Speaker 2: to look to the future of our tamariki and say

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Speaker 2: what do they need? Irrespective award, what.

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Speaker 1: They needed was, according to the last government, more money,

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Speaker 1: and so they got lots more money and it didn't

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Speaker 1: buy our way out of it. I just can't see.

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Speaker 1: But all I mean, I'm not attacking you, France. It's

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Speaker 1: all I'm saying is this problem is not new. We've

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Speaker 1: had different, different approaches to it. It doesn't seem to

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Speaker 1: be getting any better. And all we can come up

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Speaker 1: with now is, oh, we need a sort of a

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Speaker 1: holistic comeboy, our whole hands and we might fix the

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Speaker 1: problem kind of solutions.

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Speaker 2: Look, I think what we really need is a targeted

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Speaker 2: investment into the health of children which will generate long

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Speaker 2: term population health benefits. So, you know, one of the

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Speaker 2: one of the things that I love about this report

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Speaker 2: is that you know, it answers some of the big

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Speaker 2: research questions and if the questions aren't answered, then where

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Speaker 2: then the research will help us develop an evidence based

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Speaker 2: approach to solving these problems for children. I mean, YOKID

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Speaker 2: has tapped into some incredible researchers, you know, the brains

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Speaker 2: trusts of pediatric care, and it's a collaboration with that

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Speaker 2: group of people who understand and who know where the

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Speaker 2: health problems lie. But also taking it taking a leaf

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Speaker 2: out of lessons from the past. We saw how slow

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Speaker 2: our COVID immunization program was. You know, it took a

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Speaker 2: long time for some of those most at risk communities

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Speaker 2: to pick it up. And it wasn't till we took

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Speaker 2: a culturally appropriate community based program of immunization that we

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Speaker 2: really moved the dial on getting everybody immunised for COVID.

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Speaker 2: That's the approach that we need to take with childhood

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Speaker 2: immunization generally, and just you know, achieving those targets, reducing

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Speaker 2: the barriers, like increasing pharmacy providers those community based based solution.

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Speaker 2: Now we learned a lot from that co exact thing

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Speaker 2: roll out, so you know, so let's you know, let's

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Speaker 2: let if we want to make a real change, even

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Speaker 2: next winter, we need to be providing this immunization to

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Speaker 2: all children age five and under.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, I look forward to the time when

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Speaker 1: you write a report, Francis, and you can come on

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Speaker 1: and tell us that things are improving. Appreciate your times always,

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Speaker 1: France as suitor cured Kids. For more from the Mic

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