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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty. Find your

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Speaker 2: Kind on the Huddle with us this evening. Tim Wilson

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Speaker 2: Maximu Institute Mark Sainsbury broadcast highlights Hi here that tem okay,

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Speaker 2: how exercise are you buy? The ads?

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Speaker 3: Boy? Boy? That was there was a good exchange. Ever,

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Speaker 3: I look, I'm inclining towards the first position, and since

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Speaker 3: that the medium is the message, right, So taking Facebook

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Speaker 3: ads out it does escalate what the Public Public Service

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Speaker 3: Commission's role is. I think they can that they can,

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Speaker 3: you know, stating the facts about the about the strikes

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Speaker 3: and how they've been off offered the stuff, et cetera,

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Speaker 3: et cetera, saying that that that's sort of on the borderline,

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Speaker 3: saying that the unions have to get around the table.

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Speaker 3: I recoon that's pushing pushing things about. I don't like

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Speaker 3: to see institution's politicize. So I'm not I'm not that

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Speaker 3: comfortable with the.

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Speaker 4: Well Tim and irons somewhat agreement. I've got some I've

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Speaker 4: got no issue. There's no problem putting their position out there,

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Speaker 4: which we should be entired to know. What does it

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Speaker 4: mean in the impact of the strikes and that sort

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Speaker 4: of thing. It comes back to this, this whole issue

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Speaker 4: of this that the political neutrality. And I'm interested to

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Speaker 4: see that the Public Service Commission are saying that they

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Speaker 4: followed all the rules. I haven't seen the details of

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Speaker 4: the rules enough to judge on that, but I think

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Speaker 4: it is it's a pretty tricky sort of area. It

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Speaker 4: doesn't seem to be much heather, but it's that if

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Speaker 4: you are going to politicize the Public Service or the Commission,

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Speaker 4: that is a real worry.

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Speaker 2: Say, and can I make this, Ah, I'll start with

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Speaker 2: you on this, Tim. Can I make the argument that

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Speaker 2: the Public Service Commission is not politicized here, because look

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Speaker 2: at what they're saying. All they're saying is, hey, we've

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Speaker 2: tried to negotiate with these guys. This is the outcome

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Speaker 2: of the strike. You know, the offer remains of whatever whatever.

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Speaker 2: They haven't come out and said anything nasty about the work,

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Speaker 2: is anything nasty about the unions. They've actually walked a

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Speaker 2: fire line here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw I saw one of the ads which

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Speaker 3: is like, you know, I can't recall if it was

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Speaker 3: senior torches, but we've offered them eleven percent. They're going

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Speaker 3: to get eight more k, you know, eight or nine

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Speaker 3: grand more. And when I saw that, I was like, h.

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Speaker 3: And when I did that, I thought, is that right

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Speaker 3: in the Public Service Commissions getting me to do? But

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Speaker 3: and I'm not sure it is. I don't mind a

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Speaker 3: minister doing it. That's great, get into it, but I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure about that.

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Speaker 2: Saying so, what do you think of Mark Mitchell getting

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Speaker 2: involved in the Dame Noles situation?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: I know, and he isn't interesting that. He was quite

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Speaker 4: right when he talked to you that he doesn't have

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Speaker 4: any official skin in the game. He's not a party

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Speaker 4: or anything like that. But any sporting body that relies

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Speaker 4: on government funds is going to be sensitive. The issue

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Speaker 4: then escalates around the corridors the power, and that's going

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Speaker 4: to be I mean, that's what an absolute ministher wiser.

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Speaker 3: Well, what they have to do is take out a

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Speaker 3: series of ads on Facebook and then to a Facebook

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Speaker 3: hole and we can work it out. Well.

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Speaker 4: Listen, maybe when Sir Brian's back from holiday he could

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Speaker 3: Him, because her front. Yeah, he could do some h else.

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Speaker 2: When he is finished dealing with this mega strike, he

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Speaker 2: can come and deal with the Dame Knowles Tim, I

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Speaker 2: think I don't know about you, but Mark Mitchell saying

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Speaker 2: that he wants Day that he said he didn't want

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Speaker 2: to influence the outcome, but he would like her back.

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Speaker 2: I think that it's very hard to ignore that if

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Speaker 2: your netball New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, it is, and it was you know,

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Speaker 3: it was interesting that you know that Willie Jackson's brought

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Speaker 3: this into the political sphere and you know, exercising some

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Speaker 3: strong talkback muscles while he's doing it. But it sounds

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Speaker 3: like Mike Mitchell's paying attention and and this is this

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Speaker 3: knowles that it is actually a national issue?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think probably a little bit. And also we

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Speaker 2: can see unfairness I suspect a mile away. We'll take

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Speaker 2: a break, come back to you guys shortly to the

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Southeby's Internet the global leader in luxury real estate?

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Speaker 2: Are you back with the huddle? Mark Sainsbury, Tim Wilson

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Speaker 2: sains So, can you explain something to me? How is

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Speaker 2: it that you have four people who see a four

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Speaker 2: pull her out? How did that happen?

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Speaker 4: I wish I could explain it to you that that's

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Speaker 4: really disturbed me.

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Speaker 3: That story. It just what have we come to?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I just I cannot actually get my head

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Speaker 4: around it. How someone could see a child lying face down,

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Speaker 4: even if it was you know, there was too late

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Speaker 4: in whatever. From what the current is saying, it probably

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Speaker 4: wouldn't have made any difference. But you walk back a

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Speaker 4: child lying face down in a pool, yeah, because.

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Speaker 2: Things don't, don't we all know, even just from the movies.

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Speaker 2: You pull them out and you start doing a CPR

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Speaker 2: while somebody is calling the emergency services, like you start

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Speaker 2: trying to get that water out immediately. So what happened?

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Speaker 4: And well people said that somehow suggesting oh people frightened,

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Speaker 4: They may think that sort of you know, who are

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Speaker 4: interfering with a child. Come on, you know you see

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Speaker 4: that you pull that child out, immediately, try and help them.

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Speaker 3: That's what anyone would do, that, would you not? Tim?

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Speaker 3: I think I think the messages, you know, if something

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Speaker 3: doesn't look right, intervene and may be prepared to be

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Speaker 3: prepared to be embarrassed or caskt're castigated later. But if

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Speaker 3: it doesn't look right. You've just got to jump in,

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Speaker 3: do you think so.

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Speaker 2: Tim, I've been, it's been. I've been going from one

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Speaker 2: theory to the other all afternoon, trying to figure it out. Now,

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Speaker 2: one of the things that I worry is going on

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Speaker 2: is that we are worried about intervening with another person's

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Speaker 2: child for fear of what the parent make. Like let's

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Speaker 2: say you go over the kids just playing, you pull

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Speaker 2: the child out there, just having a joke, but then

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Speaker 2: the parent comes and you're in huge trouble. Is that

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Speaker 2: what we're afraid of?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's that. That's part of it, that

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Speaker 3: sense of oh, you know, this is you get away

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Speaker 3: from my kid. Having said that, I think being able

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Speaker 3: to assess the situation. Being able to assess the situation,

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Speaker 3: and if you think it goes over across as a

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Speaker 3: certain line, you step over that line. Because because this story,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to socially, sociologically overcock it.

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Speaker 3: There are lots of things happening on that I felt

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Speaker 3: so sorry for the grandfather who didn't speak English, who

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Speaker 2: It is really really sad.

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Speaker 4: And hither there's a difference between say, you intervene your

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Speaker 4: kids might be in a scrap or something where we

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Speaker 4: go and pull them out or interfere and kids having

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Speaker 4: a fight. This is a young child face down in water.

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Speaker 4: There was no you know, am I reading this ride

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Speaker 4: or have I got this wrong? I mean, it's it's

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Speaker 4: it's one of the most disturbing stories I've come across

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Speaker 4: that happened.

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Speaker 2: Is it possible that the community has this is my

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Speaker 2: other fare. Is it possible the community has broken down

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Speaker 2: to such an extent that we just don't kind of

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Speaker 2: other people.

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Speaker 4: I don't even want to accept that, Heather.

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Speaker 3: No, you know, I don't think so. I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: some ways, you know, we don't want the things were

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Speaker 3: just literally just like easy doesn't easy go, easy goes

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Speaker 3: and and you know, I guess I guess the sense

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Speaker 3: and that's that's a poor decision, but that that personal

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Speaker 3: you know, they'll have to wrestle with that decision all

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Speaker 3: their life. It's not it's not easy. And who of

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Speaker 3: us haven't made dumb decisions in the past. Whether we're

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Speaker 3: fear pulsing through our veins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I suppose so okay, hey, yeah word or yeah?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, mine wasn't affected.

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Speaker 4: And my key word is scare.

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Speaker 3: Scare.

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Speaker 4: You've only there, I know, but the R and the yes.

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Speaker 4: In fact, I'm going to change it to stare actually.

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Speaker 2: In some Yeah, no, that's a good one year stare

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Speaker 2: as in like st a.

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Speaker 3: You started speaking in the language looks going on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well no, what happened yesterday, Tim? Is that because

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Speaker 2: of the A W S outage? I lost my streak

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Speaker 2: and I was on six hundred and thirty three and

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Speaker 2: now it started again. Yeah okay, so I I think

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Speaker 2: that what's happened here sane? So is that it's the

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Speaker 2: time of day you did it? I did my wordle

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Speaker 2: when when A W S was down in the evening?

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Speaker 4: When did you do yours at very morning?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So have you still got your streak?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What is that?

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Speaker 3: But I know I'd broken the streak a couple of

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Speaker 3: weeks ago. So it's sorry to hear. What's this? What's

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Speaker 3: this thing about? You know, Tim Wilson with the Bee Kids.

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Speaker 3: I heard you at five twenty, don't think thinking.

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Speaker 2: I was looking at the idea.

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Speaker 3: Here my wife and I trying to prevent a demographic

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Speaker 3: collapse single handedly, and all you can do is roots Well,

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you, well, I'll take the test drive and

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Speaker 3: the b y D if you can jack it up, though.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what actually, but i'll tell you what, Tim. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So I used to think that you having four children

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Speaker 2: was mental, but jeez, I could go a third, Like,

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Speaker 2: aren't they just graduated away?

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Speaker 3: That's the way?

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Speaker 2: Aren't they just lovely? I want how many?

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Speaker 3: What's that?

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Speaker 2: How many have you got?

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Speaker 4: Just the two?

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Speaker 3: You?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 3: So at once? Start right? Thank you? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I am so sorely tempted. And then

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Speaker 2: I'm going to need that gigantic car as well.

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Speaker 3: Tim.

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Speaker 2: Listen, Thanks guys, go and have a lovely evening. Tim Wilson,

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Speaker 2: Mark Sainsbury The Huddles.

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