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Speaker 2: Hello you great you Zillis. Welcome to Men Tyler Full

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Speaker 2: Show Podcast number two one seven four Wednesday, the eighth

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Speaker 2: of October twenty twenty five. Fantastic show today.

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Speaker 3: We didn't huge. We didn't get to the topic on.

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Speaker 4: Skills, reading a compass, reading a map, your handwriting.

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Speaker 2: You know, because the other two topics went off, went.

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Speaker 3: Off huge, hundreds and hundreds of text.

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Speaker 2: The last topics might be a new low. But apparently

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Speaker 2: you make up your own mind. Yeah yeah, look.

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Speaker 3: Forward to that.

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Speaker 1: Stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything in between.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk said.

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Speaker 3: Bekdad to you. Welcome into Wednesday show.

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Speaker 4: I hope you haven't a great afternoon, and thank you

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Speaker 4: very much so for listening to us.

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Speaker 2: As always, get a map, get a Tyler. Hey, this

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Speaker 2: morning I was walking up Mount Eden with my lovely partner.

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Speaker 2: We went for a very early morning walk to watch.

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Speaker 3: The sunrise romantic.

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Speaker 2: It was beautiful, Yeah, fantastic. But I was punishing her

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Speaker 2: with facts on the way up. Fun facts, yep, and

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Speaker 2: she pretended that they were interesting, so I thought I'd

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Speaker 2: share them with everyone.

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Speaker 3: Please. Who doesn't like a fun fact? Yeah, there's better

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Speaker 3: be fun.

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Speaker 2: So that was sort of historical facts and time time

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Speaker 2: based facts.

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Speaker 3: Okay, time based facts. I like this, So you're ready

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Speaker 3: for the ones? Ready for it?

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Speaker 2: Is what I regaled her as we walked up Mount Eden. Ok,

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Speaker 2: sharks have existed longer than trees.

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Speaker 3: It's a good fact.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sharks are four hundred and fifty million years old

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Speaker 2: according to the Fossil Wrestle record, but trees only came

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Speaker 2: around four hundred million years ago.

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Speaker 3: That is a great fact. How about that one? Yeap?

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Speaker 3: What about this one?

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Speaker 2: The guillotine executions were still happening when Star Wars was released. Yeap,

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Speaker 2: there was still galantining happening in nineteen seventy seven.

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Speaker 3: This one's a good one, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Clear Petra was closer to having an iPhone than seeing

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Speaker 2: the construction of the Great Pyramids of geezer.

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Speaker 3: See that is fascinating.

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Speaker 2: So the Pyramids were made around two one hundred and

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Speaker 2: two thousand, five hundred and eighty nine to two five

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty six pc yep, around that area, whereas

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Speaker 2: the iPhone was out in two thousand and six. So

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Speaker 2: when Cleopatra was around, she was closer to the iPhone

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Speaker 2: than she was to the Pyramids.

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Speaker 3: That is fascinating. But it's a great fat What else

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Speaker 3: have I got?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a good one.

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Speaker 2: The t rex exists closer in time to us than

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Speaker 2: it did to the stegosaurus.

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Speaker 3: Is that right? Yeah, that's long dinosaurs are around for

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Speaker 3: how old stigo?

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Speaker 2: And today's oldest living tree in the world, which is

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Speaker 2: a Bristol cone pine, was already one thousand years old

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Speaker 2: when the last Woolli memith died.

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Speaker 4: Again, that is a fantastic fac thank you. See that

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Speaker 4: puts things into BESPEAKTIF, doesn't it.

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Speaker 4: I think I think we should start each show with

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Speaker 4: some of your fun facts. I doesn't have to be

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Speaker 4: time based. I really enjoyed those.

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Speaker 3: Used them all up. I don't have anymore. I should

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Speaker 3: have actually sprinkled them over.

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Speaker 4: You should have saved some, Yes, because a I just

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Speaker 4: throughout seven. Yeah, we could have gone for a week's worth.

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Speaker 4: We're going for a week and a half.

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Speaker 3: Damn it. Love it all right, we'll work on that one,

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Speaker 4: Fantastic facts after three o'clock today, this is going to

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Speaker 4: be a great discussion. The UK startup has designed a

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Speaker 4: new toilet with a thirteen degree forward tilt, so it

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Speaker 4: makes it so uncomfortable to sit on the workers won't

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Speaker 4: the startup, of course, is to discourage extended bathroom breaks

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Speaker 4: and boost productivity. Critics, aren't you it is? Aren't healthy

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Speaker 4: and inhumane? Placing profit above basic comfort?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you could solve the problem with the brick.

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Speaker 3: Would you run one of these at home?

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Speaker 2: It's just to stop yourself sitting on their all day

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Speaker 2: This tech that came in before I find interesting. I

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Speaker 2: Five hours a year, or just over three weeks of

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Speaker 2: I'm a dirt bag for working that out. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: three weeks of consistent potty time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred and twenty five hours a year.

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Speaker 2: You put that on a slope, and that guy's getting

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, so what's that?

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Speaker 2: But a bathroom at work should be get in, do

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what I've just realized. There is a

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Speaker 3: Toilets, other lights turn off. Yeah, and that's kind of embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: That's humiliating. That has happened to me once, and I

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Speaker 2: forward to that after two o'clock. So handwriting, How to

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Speaker 2: use a compass, printed maps, dictionaries, they were essential life skill,

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Speaker 2: AI note takers are coming into doctor's offices. Now we

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Speaker 4: Google Maps, etc. In your back pocket. Do we really

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Speaker 2: you know, research is showing that we're getting dumber and

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Speaker 3: It just tells you where to go.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that makes you dumber because you don't learn the directions,

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Speaker 2: so I think, and you know, math is another one.

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Speaker 2: People don't do basic sums anymore. But I think all

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Speaker 2: those things that you do, they weaken your brain and

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Speaker 2: If brain aren't working. You know, then they just shut down.

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Speaker 2: Your brain just starts shutting its functions down that you

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Speaker 2: don't use. Yeah, so we may not need these things

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Speaker 2: but we may need them to keep our brains active.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's going to be an interesting chat after two o'clock.

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Speaker 4: But right now, let's have a chat about young people

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Speaker 4: in jobs. So starting next year, the government will tighten

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Speaker 4: access to jobs that can benefits for young people, expecting

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Speaker 4: parents to support them if they can. And Christopher lux

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Speaker 4: And our Prime minister, said we can't let young people

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Speaker 4: drift into wealthfare. He also said young people should do

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Speaker 4: whatever it takes to get a job, even if that

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Speaker 7: I wasn't argable recently, you know, talking to the camera

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Speaker 7: that young people show up for work for a little

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 7: And actually that's what we're trying to get. We're trying

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Speaker 7: can actually learn to show up on time, have a

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Speaker 7: work ethic, join a team, work hard, you know, and

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Speaker 1: That's really important.

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Speaker 4: So that comment there, I got a bit of pushback

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Speaker 3: Here's what she said.

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Speaker 9: You've got a prime minister who's telling them to go

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Speaker 9: You know, they need some real.

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Speaker 8: And that's the problem with your view of the world

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Speaker 8: is that when I know, when I was a young

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Speaker 9: I saved And I wasn't pooping that I was saying.

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Speaker 9: Available in the regions these areas are not saying they don't.

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Speaker 8: You just use the example of the Prome minister to

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Speaker 9: Because there's no jobs they mark that's the point there.

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Speaker 2: Are He did seem to be prepared, but your first

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Speaker 2: you more money than you can imagine. I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: not what your first job's about, right. Your first job

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Speaker 2: is rubbish because you don't have any qualifications yet. Generally speaking,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there are some people that worked and walked

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Speaker 2: I'm reading this book now by Sam Gibson, a fantastic

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Speaker 2: book by a Kiwi hunter called Sam the Trapman, and

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Speaker 2: though I lived way up north. It's fantastic book. But

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Speaker 2: you know, he worked into his dream job. But his

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Speaker 2: dream job was pretty punishing. It was incredibly hard work

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Speaker 4: I've got to say the first job that I had,

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Speaker 4: first full time job out of high school, it was

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Speaker 3: There you go, success story.

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Speaker 2: So the potentially terrible job and horrible job, that's that's,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yeah, puts it into perspective.

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Speaker 4: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty So keen to have a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, what was your first first job? What

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Speaker 4: I eight hundred eighty ten eighties. The number to call

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues to the big trends

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Speaker 3: Be twenty one past one.

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Speaker 2: So Jenny Anderson's saying that it's ridiculous to suggest that

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Speaker 2: don't know, pick potato.

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Speaker 3: What would we call dig up the kuma? I was

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Speaker 3: going to say, pit kumera, yeah, pit kumra. Off the trees,

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Speaker 2: So but we're talking about your first job. This six says,

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Speaker 2: But so the minimum wage now is is it twenty

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Speaker 3: I believe you're right. Yeah, I think you're right.

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Speaker 2: So that would be close to nine hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: There's some good mass, so twenty three twenty three.

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Speaker 2: plenty of money to do other stuff peak here. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how. I mean, there's rent

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Speaker 4: We are renting in Auckland right now, and we were

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Speaker 3: And that's a pretty nice place. Yeah, it was, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And when you're young, like when I first moved

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Speaker 3: You were so good. It was the best place I've

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Speaker 2: I was paying very little for a week. I think

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Speaker 2: I was just contributing to the food in the flax.

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Speaker 2: There was like, no one wants to live out side

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Speaker 2: It was on a Riki Street. Actually, I wonder if

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Speaker 2: that shed's still there. Hi, guys, you're absolutely right. There's

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Speaker 2: no greater motivation to getting a job than have a

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Speaker 3: It makes you wonder.

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Speaker 2: What so called career advisors are filling our kids head's worth.

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Speaker 2: That's from Dave Glenn.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show Yday boys.

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Speaker 5: Listen.

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Speaker 11: I don't know what Jenny's on about. I started work

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Speaker 11: for thirteen years. These kids have got to understand that

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Speaker 11: You learn to grow up. Work, as the Prime Minister said,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not going to be your best job

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Speaker 2: be broke, because you're supposed to be broke when you're young.

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Speaker 3: That's the way it works.

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Speaker 11: Well, well that's the crazy thing you just talked about.

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Speaker 11: The minimum age. Somebody earning the minimum wage is nearly

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Speaker 11: So the reality is you can't say if you're seventeen

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Speaker 11: that's just ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've got to take the tax off that wage,

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Speaker 2: as a lot of people are saying, I've just done that.

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Speaker 4: So that leaves you worth on average seven hundred and

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Speaker 4: ninety dollars a week, you know, so then again still

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Speaker 4: chunk over for food, for fuel, for other expenses.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you have to drink constantly when you're at

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Speaker 11: Yeah, met to be fair, you're not drinking Steinlager or

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Speaker 11: or stellar Artois or Heinecken at that stage, you're drinking

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Speaker 11: stag or or you know something absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Good country box mine.

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Speaker 2: You're not getting on the espresso Martinez at twenty five

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Speaker 11: No, that's exactly right. So you know, it's horses for courses.

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Speaker 11: And the problem with the world is when people expect

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Speaker 11: to walk into an executive job and now one hundred

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Speaker 11: and city thousand dollars a year with a cell phone

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Speaker 11: and a car and a personal assistant, that just doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: That also fulfills all their dreams, you know, financially and spiritually. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for your call, Glynn.

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Speaker 4: It is twenty six past one, back and of MO

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Speaker 4: taking your calls on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking breakfast,

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Speaker 1: do you.

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Speaker 3: I have a training troubled?

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Speaker 13: Over three hundred and twenty two of us have to

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Speaker 13: reset the license after officers allegi to accepted cash bribes

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Speaker 13: to pass practical test. Mark Rebel Johnson's the president of

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Speaker 13: the New Zealand Institute of Driver Educators.

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Speaker 3: Is this do you think a one off?

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Speaker 14: We don't know an awful lot about it. However, when

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Speaker 14: you consider the number of driving tests that's happened well

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Speaker 14: into the thousands weekly, three hundred and twenty two over

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Speaker 14: a couple of year period is actually quite a small.

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Speaker 1: Number, and it doesn't make it right.

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Speaker 14: Mark, No, no, absolutely not. I quite agree, And we

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Speaker 14: to be look of thought.

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Speaker 13: This all strikes me as being unbelievably third world.

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Speaker 14: It certainly has that impression, doesn't it.

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Speaker 13: Back tomorrow at six am the Mike Asking Breakfast with Maybe's.

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Speaker 3: Real Estate News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, good afternoon, due twenty nine past one. So Ginny

448
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Speaker 4: Anderson said on my show this morning that it's crazy

449
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Speaker 4: to expect young people to move to dargavill for a

450
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Speaker 4: job digging up kumitter. What do you say to that

451
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Speaker 4: sort of opinion? And also, what was your first job,

452
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Speaker 4: your first full time job when you left school? Yeah,

453
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Speaker 4: says hey team listening along and just abouit confused? How

454
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Speaker 4: many Kumera picking jobs you and this government think there are.

455
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Speaker 4: The issue at the moment is not wanting to work,

456
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Speaker 4: it's the lack of work. Recently seeing jobs at tank

457
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Speaker 4: and thousands of applicants, Automation has been taken over, as

458
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Speaker 4: has unique education, making it almost impossible to get a

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Speaker 4: foot in the door. Even in the trades, people can't

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Speaker 4: afford to take on apprentic apprentices. No disrespect, but I

461
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Speaker 4: think this spoils down to an ignorant, retrospective view of

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Speaker 4: a complex issue.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your text. But there is jobs in

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Speaker 2: different places around the country, and we we keet to

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Speaker 2: hearing about that. And I think the point with people

466
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Speaker 2: are trying to make, and I think you're trying to make, Tyler,

467
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Speaker 2: is that it's not about finding that perfect job and

468
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Speaker 2: that tank in the city that you're in. Yeah, the

469
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Speaker 2: idea of your first job is the craptness and the

470
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Speaker 2: hardness of it is kind of the point. And the

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Speaker 2: fact that you go to a place you don't want

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Speaker 2: to be and work in a job and spend time

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Speaker 2: with you with people that you wouldn't ever meet, that's

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Speaker 2: kind of that's kind of a great start to life.

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Speaker 4: It's massive motivation. It is a massive motivation if you

476
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Speaker 4: don't want to go to Dargaville and pit permitter, but

477
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Speaker 4: you need to because that's where the job are and

478
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Speaker 4: there are jobs in Dargaball picking committer.

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Speaker 3: Then that is going to give you motivation for upskilling.

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Speaker 3: And it's not all ye good, it's not all year yaheem.

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Speaker 3: Nice to go and pick cherries and bleham yep, that

482
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Speaker 3: was that's that's hard. Some people are very good at

483
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Speaker 3: picking cherries. Alan welcome to show.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, Hi, only about a Dargabill.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 15: A few months ago, I was lived at a loose

487
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Speaker 15: end on the Saturday night, so I decided I'd go

488
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Speaker 15: into Dargaville and to see what was happening there, and

489
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Speaker 15: only way I came home feeling completely depressed. Now, Dargaball

490
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Speaker 15: is a great little town and people there are absolutely lovely,

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Speaker 15: and I'm not complast about that, but I'm just wondering

492
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Speaker 15: what incentive there is for a young person to move there. Now,

493
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Speaker 15: this particular night, there was now there was two a

494
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Speaker 15: couple of families wandering around down by the river, but

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Speaker 15: there was nothing else happening. As I said, there's a

496
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Speaker 15: door nail. So I was talking to something. Later, I

497
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Speaker 15: said what what what happening in Dargable in the nights,

498
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Speaker 15: and she got a bit defensive and said, oh, well

499
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Speaker 15: there was a play on with an English theme and

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Speaker 15: there's also a cinema. I don't know what was happening

501
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Speaker 15: that time, but you know, I was wondering what appeal

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Speaker 15: it would be for say, a young person to move

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Speaker 15: somewhere like that. So what what appeals to young people

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Speaker 15: there people in terms of entertainment, because I think we

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Speaker 15: need to look at that.

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Speaker 2: But Helen, isn't Isn't that not on the point? Not

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Speaker 2: The point is that the places has got everything they

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Speaker 2: need that that the point is that you're supposed to

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Speaker 2: go and get a job.

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Speaker 3: If you're not an.

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Speaker 2: Education, you're supposed to get a job. And if there's

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Speaker 2: a jog and job and Dargable then you might just

513
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Speaker 2: have to suck up that there's not everything that you

514
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Speaker 2: want to do there.

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Speaker 15: I just don't thing that's good enough. I mean, the

516
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Speaker 15: needs of shot in the arm as bar is giving

517
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Speaker 15: them some incentive to stay here. Would a disc go help?

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Speaker 14: You know?

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Speaker 15: What what would appeal to to a young person to

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Speaker 15: move to dargaball where they knew nobody, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, Helen, and that's that's definitely

523
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Speaker 2: a question for Dargavill needs to you know, in small

524
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Speaker 2: towns need to work out what they can do to

525
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Speaker 2: keep young people there and entertain. Absolutely, Allen, that's a

526
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Speaker 2: good point. But I guess the Dargaball part of it

527
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Speaker 2: and the Kumera picking part of it is kind of

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Speaker 2: just an example if there is if there's a job,

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Speaker 2: and I just look up here, there's a bunch just

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Speaker 2: on the site that I'm looking up of Koumera jobs

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Speaker 2: and Dargavill and so really just the point is it's

532
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Speaker 2: not the most glamorous job in the world, and it

533
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Speaker 2: might not be exactly where you want to be. But

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Speaker 2: it's just an example of if there's a job, then

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Speaker 2: are you should you go and get it? If you're young,

536
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Speaker 2: is it better for you to go and get that

537
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Speaker 2: job and the place you don't want to be doing

538
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Speaker 2: the job you don't want to don't want to do,

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Speaker 2: as opposed to sitting around and doing nothing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And to Helen's point, I actually think there is

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Speaker 4: a benefit to being in a place where you're earning

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Speaker 4: pretty good money or earning money at least, and you

543
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Speaker 4: don't actually have a lot of things to spend it on.

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Speaker 4: That is a good couple of years that you can

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Speaker 4: put away some decent cash. And that happens all over

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Speaker 4: the worlds. You know, you can't tell me there's too

547
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Speaker 4: much going on around minds in Perth, but people go

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Speaker 4: there because they can put good money away. That's kind

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Speaker 4: of the point. Yeah, hard yacker, good money, nothing to

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Speaker 4: spend it on, happy days.

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Speaker 2: And with the minimum wage as it is, you know,

552
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Speaker 2: if you if you're eighteen or nineteen and you can

553
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Speaker 2: earn as much as you do in the minimum's wage,

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Speaker 2: that's not too bad.

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Speaker 3: Wherever you are.

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Speaker 2: Farming comes with a house. I'm in Topaua, live in

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Speaker 2: a warm three bed house for free, hunt my own meat,

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Speaker 2: and save sixty percent of my wage after tax.

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Speaker 3: Cheers JB. That is a good situation to be in.

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Speaker 3: Old dream in topaul, Oh.

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Speaker 4: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 4: What was the first job, full time job you did

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Speaker 4: outside of school? Did you have to leave your town

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Speaker 4: to get that job? Love to hear from you, and was.

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Speaker 2: The crapness of the job the problem a problem? Or

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Speaker 2: was it the crapness of the job that actually set

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Speaker 2: you up for life.

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Speaker 3: It's a great question. Yeah, it is twenty six to

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Speaker 3: two headlines with railing coming up.

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Speaker 16: US talk sa'd be headlives with blue bubble taxies. It's

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Speaker 16: no trouble with a blue bubble. The death of two

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Speaker 16: people in a house fire in Auckland's Buckland's Beach is

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Speaker 16: being treated as a homicide, with indications the fire was

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Speaker 16: deliberately lit and signs of an accelerant polis A. Post

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Speaker 16: Mortems indicate one victim is a thirty six year old

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Speaker 16: father of two and the seconds believed to be an

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Speaker 16: eleven year old boy. A poll has support for nationals

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Speaker 16: sinking below thirty percent on twenty nine point six. It's

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Speaker 16: alongside New Zealand first, rising to ten point six Labour's

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Speaker 16: on thirty one point two, despite falling two point six

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Speaker 16: points since last month. Aerospace n Z says the reality

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Speaker 16: of modern life is technology crossover between civilian and defense use.

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Speaker 16: Protesters rallied outside of christ Church Space Summit today, highlighting

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Speaker 16: industry links to the US military, Israel's defense force, and

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Speaker 16: weapons companies departing. Wellington Mayor Tory Farno has delivered a

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Speaker 16: valedictory speech. Same council is particularly tough on women, Mary

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Speaker 16: and diverse communities. The Lioness says, do the hunting the

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Speaker 16: NP and the thick of Mary party troubles. You can

589
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Speaker 16: see the full analysis from Audrey Young at Enzaid Herald Premium.

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Speaker 16: Back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, ray Lean and we are talking

592
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Speaker 4: about young people moving two regions where the jobs are.

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Speaker 4: That was a comment made by our Prime Minister, Christopher

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Speaker 4: lux and he says young people should do whatever it

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Speaker 4: takes to get a job, even if it means moving

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Speaker 4: the Blazers like Dargavill. Ginny Anderson on Mike Show this

597
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Speaker 4: morning pushback then and she said it was crazy telling

598
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Speaker 4: young people to go to Dargavill to dig up Kumita.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think I think we're getting bogged down

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Speaker 2: in the Dargaville and Kumera. That's just an example that

601
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Speaker 2: people should go to another town for a job. That

602
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Speaker 2: is an ideal, rather than sitting around and rotting. It's

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Speaker 2: a I've been trying to think the way to describe

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Speaker 2: it as the what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

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Speaker 2: It's the crackedness of the first job that hardens you

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Speaker 2: to find something better. The struggle is the point, not

607
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Speaker 2: the problem. Resilience is born from struggle. Making people do

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Speaker 2: something instead of nothing is arguably kinder then letting allowing

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Speaker 2: them to just rot. Yeah, I mean that's that's the

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Speaker 2: counter argument to what Jenny Anderson is saying, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Here's Here's Davidson, Rural Reporter, High Team. It's just Davidson here.

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Speaker 2: My first job was cleaning toilets at Radio White Tucky

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Speaker 2: and Oamaru. Now I talk crap on radio for a job.

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Speaker 4: Well, that is a tough first job, the toilets at

615
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Speaker 4: Radio White Tucky.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the dios, the diet down there. In a more,

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Speaker 3: a lot goes through a lot of protein, a lot

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Speaker 3: goes through the system. Megan, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Here what I saw.

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Speaker 17: I'm just laughing about that comments around the toilet, So

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Speaker 17: thank you for that.

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Speaker 3: That's right, he apologies.

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Speaker 17: My first job was probably quite a nice job. That

624
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Speaker 17: was working a post office. What I probably am thinking

625
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Speaker 17: around is the support that's for say these younger people

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Speaker 17: eighteen nineteen, say, if you are going to a different

627
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Speaker 17: part of the country and you don't have any support.

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Speaker 17: You don't have any friends or any family, but you

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Speaker 17: are going out there. You know, what can people do?

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Speaker 17: So they are supporting there. They're still children, you know,

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Speaker 17: they're young adults, but they've still got a lot of

632
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Speaker 17: maturity to go through. I'm putting it in if it

633
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Speaker 17: were my child, and I'm saying right, you know, these

634
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Speaker 17: are where the jobs are. It's all the way different

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Speaker 17: part of the country. You know, who are people that

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Speaker 17: you're going to be able to surround yourself with if

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Speaker 17: we can't be there with you, you know, all part

638
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Speaker 17: of that village sort of mentality of you know, you

639
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Speaker 17: start at the bottom, you work your way up. We

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Speaker 17: all have to do that. You know, what are your

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Speaker 17: expectations for jobs? Is it more that younger people needing

642
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Speaker 17: to know? You know, a first job may not be

643
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Speaker 17: your best job, but it's going to give you somewhere

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Speaker 17: to start from and there you build up. You know,

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Speaker 17: just looking around that support where you know it is

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Speaker 17: mental Health Awareness week after all. So just that's where

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Speaker 17: I'm coming from, is that I don't disagree with what

648
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Speaker 17: you're saying. I've had the rubbish jobs, but if we're

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Speaker 17: sending these young people out to go and set themselves.

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Speaker 18: Up with their first job.

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Speaker 17: What are we putting in place so that they aren't

652
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Speaker 17: becoming depressed or they're not having mental health issues? You know,

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Speaker 17: if these are children sending them out, what are we

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Speaker 17: as parents as a community doing to support them?

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Speaker 2: So that yeah, that's I think that's a very good point, Megan.

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Speaker 2: But I would also say leaving school and not going

657
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Speaker 2: into employment or education isn't great for mental health either,

658
00:28:58,093 --> 00:28:58,853
Speaker 2: And oh.

659
00:28:58,773 --> 00:29:00,773
Speaker 17: No, and that's exactly right. That's so I say, I'm

660
00:29:00,813 --> 00:29:03,533
Speaker 17: not disagreeing with you. I am agreeing with you that

661
00:29:03,573 --> 00:29:06,053
Speaker 17: we you know, we're all better as a society when

662
00:29:06,053 --> 00:29:09,853
Speaker 17: everyone's working and contributing. If we're in the village sort

663
00:29:09,853 --> 00:29:14,333
Speaker 17: of mentality. It takes the village, right, Yeah, But what

664
00:29:14,373 --> 00:29:17,413
Speaker 17: can we do to support these children before they go

665
00:29:17,733 --> 00:29:20,893
Speaker 17: out and they're going to be isolated from family and friends.

666
00:29:21,133 --> 00:29:23,773
Speaker 17: They might not have anyone. They're just going to this

667
00:29:23,933 --> 00:29:26,253
Speaker 17: job and that's all they've got, So what can we

668
00:29:26,293 --> 00:29:27,173
Speaker 17: do to support them?

669
00:29:27,293 --> 00:29:29,973
Speaker 4: Makes a good point, And you talk about their community

670
00:29:29,973 --> 00:29:33,773
Speaker 4: support obviously, Meghan, but I generally think financial support for

671
00:29:33,813 --> 00:29:36,013
Speaker 4: these young people to take up these jobs and regions

672
00:29:36,053 --> 00:29:39,053
Speaker 4: outside where they live is not a silly idea, because

673
00:29:39,093 --> 00:29:41,333
Speaker 4: you get them into employment and say they get a

674
00:29:41,333 --> 00:29:43,853
Speaker 4: two thousand dollars bonus for doing that, That is not

675
00:29:44,013 --> 00:29:46,413
Speaker 4: silly in the long run, because you get them into employment,

676
00:29:46,413 --> 00:29:48,533
Speaker 4: they're contributing to the economy and they get a nice

677
00:29:48,533 --> 00:29:50,453
Speaker 4: wee boost there to try and set them up. And

678
00:29:50,493 --> 00:29:51,813
Speaker 4: I know they can go to WINS and they can

679
00:29:51,813 --> 00:29:54,893
Speaker 4: get some benefit and some subsidies there, but that to

680
00:29:54,973 --> 00:29:58,133
Speaker 4: me is worthwhile spend of taxpayer money to give them

681
00:29:58,173 --> 00:30:00,173
Speaker 4: a wee incentive, a wee bonus to go and get

682
00:30:00,173 --> 00:30:00,733
Speaker 4: those jobs.

683
00:30:01,333 --> 00:30:03,933
Speaker 2: John says, I agree with the woman caller before saying

684
00:30:04,013 --> 00:30:06,533
Speaker 2: Dargaville has a poor night life and therefore the taxpayer

685
00:30:06,533 --> 00:30:07,853
Speaker 2: should pay young people of benefit.

686
00:30:08,453 --> 00:30:11,293
Speaker 3: Thank you, John. There's eighteen to two back in the month.

687
00:30:12,213 --> 00:30:15,693
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

688
00:30:15,933 --> 00:30:20,013
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used.

689
00:30:19,773 --> 00:30:21,933
Speaker 3: Talks that'd be very good afternoon cheer.

690
00:30:21,933 --> 00:30:23,933
Speaker 4: We're talking about first jobs and whether you had to

691
00:30:23,933 --> 00:30:26,093
Speaker 4: move out of your town to take on that job.

692
00:30:26,093 --> 00:30:27,373
Speaker 3: I wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

693
00:30:27,573 --> 00:30:29,773
Speaker 2: The sexy says, there are jobs about For two years

694
00:30:29,813 --> 00:30:32,493
Speaker 2: we've had different South Americans staying in one of our rentals.

695
00:30:32,533 --> 00:30:35,533
Speaker 2: They have continuous work and work for minimum wages. This

696
00:30:35,733 --> 00:30:37,773
Speaker 2: is work in the fields, et cetera, that any young

697
00:30:37,773 --> 00:30:40,573
Speaker 2: person could do. They are stoundard that our youth get

698
00:30:40,613 --> 00:30:44,453
Speaker 2: benefits for nothing. Hey, guys, suggesting the town should have

699
00:30:44,493 --> 00:30:47,613
Speaker 2: a disco to attract workers is ridiculous. The world owes

700
00:30:47,653 --> 00:30:49,893
Speaker 2: you nothing. Grow up here and do the hard thing

701
00:30:49,933 --> 00:30:52,493
Speaker 2: you need to do to move forward. Cessus texture, My

702
00:30:52,573 --> 00:30:55,293
Speaker 2: four siblings and I all moved away from our hometown,

703
00:30:55,613 --> 00:30:56,733
Speaker 2: good old dunners.

704
00:30:56,613 --> 00:30:57,693
Speaker 3: Ah, the garden city.

705
00:30:57,693 --> 00:31:01,293
Speaker 2: Beautiful to find, the pretty city. Christ Church is the

706
00:31:01,293 --> 00:31:03,213
Speaker 2: garden city. It's the pretty city, denied.

707
00:31:03,373 --> 00:31:05,893
Speaker 3: You got some good gardens down there though, to be Yeah, yeah, yeah.

708
00:31:05,813 --> 00:31:08,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had some good time in the botanical gardens.

709
00:31:08,493 --> 00:31:11,693
Speaker 2: Have to find work and move forward. I knew three

710
00:31:11,733 --> 00:31:14,133
Speaker 2: people when I came to Auckland. I got a job

711
00:31:14,213 --> 00:31:17,213
Speaker 2: three days after I got here. Tough few years, but

712
00:31:17,413 --> 00:31:19,253
Speaker 2: you do know, you do what you got to do.

713
00:31:19,493 --> 00:31:20,893
Speaker 2: Great show team, cheers Dino.

714
00:31:21,133 --> 00:31:22,133
Speaker 3: Yeah. When I moved to.

715
00:31:22,293 --> 00:31:23,973
Speaker 2: Auckland to work, when I got out of Duned and

716
00:31:23,973 --> 00:31:27,213
Speaker 2: I didn't know only one person here. Yep, it's quite lonely,

717
00:31:28,053 --> 00:31:30,733
Speaker 2: But then I've been here ever since, and I've met

718
00:31:30,773 --> 00:31:32,453
Speaker 2: a lot of fantastic people. I think this is a

719
00:31:32,453 --> 00:31:34,373
Speaker 2: really good point here. Hey, guys, you're missing out there.

720
00:31:34,413 --> 00:31:36,053
Speaker 2: You're missing the elephant in the room, which is that

721
00:31:36,093 --> 00:31:37,973
Speaker 2: the younger generation have grown up in an era of

722
00:31:38,013 --> 00:31:41,653
Speaker 2: influences in crypto trading and then seeing people make hundreds

723
00:31:41,693 --> 00:31:44,413
Speaker 2: of thousands from doing nothing. It's a completely different era.

724
00:31:44,853 --> 00:31:47,573
Speaker 2: I think there is some truth in that. I think

725
00:31:47,693 --> 00:31:52,133
Speaker 2: just being bombarded on social media with just opulence and

726
00:31:52,373 --> 00:31:57,293
Speaker 2: success and and a lot of it faked. Yeah, it's

727
00:31:57,693 --> 00:31:58,653
Speaker 2: in that comparison.

728
00:31:59,773 --> 00:32:00,573
Speaker 3: Why aren't I.

729
00:32:00,733 --> 00:32:03,813
Speaker 2: At this resort, Why aren't I on this private jet?

730
00:32:03,893 --> 00:32:07,813
Speaker 2: You know, this YouTube makers, this YouTube content creator is

731
00:32:07,813 --> 00:32:12,533
Speaker 2: making millions. You know, they're just bombarded with examples of piquette,

732
00:32:12,533 --> 00:32:15,573
Speaker 2: people making a lot of money doing glamorous things and

733
00:32:15,693 --> 00:32:19,333
Speaker 2: experience incredible things, and not seeing a lot of people

734
00:32:19,653 --> 00:32:21,653
Speaker 2: who are doing the hard grind.

735
00:32:22,213 --> 00:32:25,333
Speaker 4: Rich Creick schemes. Absolutely bombarded. Very alluring to see that

736
00:32:25,453 --> 00:32:26,413
Speaker 4: on on social media.

737
00:32:26,573 --> 00:32:29,973
Speaker 2: That's a very good point. The Noora, welcome to the show.

738
00:32:29,973 --> 00:32:35,733
Speaker 2: If I said your name right, you have oh brilliant, Yeah, I've.

739
00:32:35,533 --> 00:32:38,453
Speaker 19: Got some of the callers of its wing was a

740
00:32:38,493 --> 00:32:42,133
Speaker 19: lot of the problem with some of these young people

741
00:32:42,373 --> 00:32:45,413
Speaker 19: is they have mental health. They haven't had fathers, so

742
00:32:45,493 --> 00:32:50,533
Speaker 19: they need someone to guide them. So, you know, rather

743
00:32:50,573 --> 00:32:52,253
Speaker 19: than just say here's the job, they won't do it.

744
00:32:52,293 --> 00:32:56,293
Speaker 19: They won't have the they won't have the there was

745
00:32:56,373 --> 00:32:58,773
Speaker 19: all of itin themselves to do that. So they'll need

746
00:32:58,893 --> 00:33:01,133
Speaker 19: ones to say, right, here's a job. I mean, not

747
00:33:01,173 --> 00:33:03,613
Speaker 19: to hold their hands, but basically just to get them there.

748
00:33:03,853 --> 00:33:07,413
Speaker 19: And once they've got a job, that should be okay.

749
00:33:08,373 --> 00:33:10,573
Speaker 19: If the thought of it sets them out so they

750
00:33:10,613 --> 00:33:14,213
Speaker 19: can't think ahead of oh I can't do it. But

751
00:33:14,773 --> 00:33:17,013
Speaker 19: if they could only just do it, then no, hey,

752
00:33:17,173 --> 00:33:19,693
Speaker 19: this don't tell me. And it's good having money, but

753
00:33:19,773 --> 00:33:21,413
Speaker 19: it's just getting them there, you know what I mean.

754
00:33:21,453 --> 00:33:24,533
Speaker 19: There's a lot of mental health and they're getting them

755
00:33:24,613 --> 00:33:29,053
Speaker 19: up to pertectuma. Of those parts of children things might

756
00:33:29,133 --> 00:33:33,493
Speaker 19: be able to do it, yeah, have help and parents.

757
00:33:33,573 --> 00:33:36,773
Speaker 19: Then they've got to call it. Yes, and it would

758
00:33:36,813 --> 00:33:38,973
Speaker 19: be good if they could do these things. But also

759
00:33:38,973 --> 00:33:42,653
Speaker 19: if they could provide accommodation and have like hostels or something.

760
00:33:42,813 --> 00:33:47,613
Speaker 19: They said the buy in say buying thea's and for teenagers,

761
00:33:47,653 --> 00:33:50,893
Speaker 19: then they move to another city, you know, things like that.

762
00:33:51,173 --> 00:33:53,133
Speaker 19: So it's easy for the Prime Minister the same. And

763
00:33:53,253 --> 00:33:55,653
Speaker 19: he's got a point, you know, you get them into work,

764
00:33:55,733 --> 00:33:59,453
Speaker 19: but also have something there to buoy them up.

765
00:34:00,533 --> 00:34:03,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. But in the

766
00:34:03,533 --> 00:34:07,213
Speaker 2: best circumstances, Lenora, you would get into a job and

767
00:34:07,293 --> 00:34:10,093
Speaker 2: then there's a boss that comes a mentor and kind

768
00:34:10,133 --> 00:34:13,253
Speaker 2: of beats you into shape. I think I think the

769
00:34:14,013 --> 00:34:16,413
Speaker 2: what's this this is saying right now? It's couch rotting

770
00:34:16,573 --> 00:34:19,293
Speaker 2: or yeah, there's there's a there's a word this is.

771
00:34:19,373 --> 00:34:20,973
Speaker 2: This is a thing that's happening in China. It made

772
00:34:21,013 --> 00:34:23,613
Speaker 2: it which is called the translates as the great lie Down,

773
00:34:24,013 --> 00:34:27,693
Speaker 2: where people are just lying down and doing doing doing nothing.

774
00:34:27,773 --> 00:34:29,373
Speaker 3: So I think I think you're quite right.

775
00:34:29,453 --> 00:34:33,493
Speaker 2: It's quote Tyler Diurdon, our great wars are spiritual war,

776
00:34:34,133 --> 00:34:39,053
Speaker 2: and so it's all, you know, if you're broken spiritually,

777
00:34:39,533 --> 00:34:42,853
Speaker 2: it's quite hard, you know, And it can be very

778
00:34:42,933 --> 00:34:45,533
Speaker 2: easy just to say go and put Kumra and Dargaville,

779
00:34:46,013 --> 00:34:48,493
Speaker 2: but if they physically can't do it. Some kids can't

780
00:34:48,493 --> 00:34:50,652
Speaker 2: even get out of their bedrooms. Some kids have been

781
00:34:50,733 --> 00:34:55,173
Speaker 2: so twisted by by you know, the internet, and social

782
00:34:55,293 --> 00:34:58,213
Speaker 2: media and and the current ideology of the day to

783
00:34:58,293 --> 00:35:03,013
Speaker 2: the point where their their anxiety has been amplified, to

784
00:35:03,133 --> 00:35:08,652
Speaker 2: the point that little one going into a workplaces as well,

785
00:35:08,653 --> 00:35:11,613
Speaker 2: remember that first that first job, the first day on

786
00:35:11,733 --> 00:35:14,733
Speaker 2: your first job, you're absolutely terrified.

787
00:35:14,973 --> 00:35:19,933
Speaker 4: Yeah here, it's scary, yep. And but you talk about

788
00:35:19,973 --> 00:35:21,813
Speaker 4: mentors as well, and I think that's a massive part

789
00:35:21,853 --> 00:35:25,133
Speaker 4: of it. Is every job that I had, there was

790
00:35:25,173 --> 00:35:27,253
Speaker 4: always someone and whether they wanted to be a mentor

791
00:35:27,373 --> 00:35:29,772
Speaker 4: or not, they were. And sometimes they kicked my butt

792
00:35:29,853 --> 00:35:32,692
Speaker 4: and told me to do better. And all of those

793
00:35:32,813 --> 00:35:36,493
Speaker 4: things made me more resilient and appreciate the job more

794
00:35:36,693 --> 00:35:39,732
Speaker 4: and realize the value of hard work because I wasn't

795
00:35:39,733 --> 00:35:41,693
Speaker 4: always like that. I was a real ship when I

796
00:35:41,773 --> 00:35:45,853
Speaker 4: was younger and gradually improved those skills to better myself.

797
00:35:46,173 --> 00:35:48,453
Speaker 4: And there were always people in any job I did

798
00:35:48,533 --> 00:35:50,733
Speaker 4: that that played that role. They probably don't know that

799
00:35:50,773 --> 00:35:53,333
Speaker 4: they played that role, but they did. And to your point, Vanora,

800
00:35:53,413 --> 00:35:56,453
Speaker 4: if there's people out there in Kumera fields, if that's

801
00:35:56,493 --> 00:35:58,373
Speaker 4: what you call them, and I'm sure there are, then

802
00:35:58,413 --> 00:36:00,212
Speaker 4: that can be beneficial to some of these kids.

803
00:36:02,013 --> 00:36:08,893
Speaker 19: It's just giving them to be and someone just side them.

804
00:36:09,373 --> 00:36:12,573
Speaker 19: They're putting that first job even now that mind could go,

805
00:36:12,733 --> 00:36:14,533
Speaker 19: oh I can't, I can't, and then to get more

806
00:36:14,533 --> 00:36:15,413
Speaker 19: deference than hide.

807
00:36:15,293 --> 00:36:16,573
Speaker 20: And way more so.

808
00:36:16,773 --> 00:36:20,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, and these these by the time you're seventeen and eighteen,

809
00:36:20,413 --> 00:36:23,013
Speaker 2: you're eighteen and nineteen. You're a big unit. You're an adult.

810
00:36:23,053 --> 00:36:24,973
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't just be forced to do things

811
00:36:25,013 --> 00:36:28,093
Speaker 2: like a parent. I mean anyone that's tried to wrangle

812
00:36:28,133 --> 00:36:30,893
Speaker 2: a teenager. Yeah, I mean it's you know, it is

813
00:36:30,973 --> 00:36:34,573
Speaker 2: more complicated than we're saying. But I think about, like, say,

814
00:36:34,733 --> 00:36:38,732
Speaker 2: your first job being terrifying. My first job, first full

815
00:36:38,773 --> 00:36:41,013
Speaker 2: time job. My first job was shoveling gravel down at

816
00:36:41,013 --> 00:36:44,133
Speaker 2: Donaldson's dairy and chopping down Christmas trees. But my first

817
00:36:44,413 --> 00:36:46,053
Speaker 2: that's where I worked on the holidays. My first full

818
00:36:46,093 --> 00:36:48,573
Speaker 2: time job was at Echo Records, and I remember I

819
00:36:48,693 --> 00:36:50,453
Speaker 2: arrived there and they said, you're in the back room.

820
00:36:51,253 --> 00:36:53,013
Speaker 2: There is a bunch of orders that have come in

821
00:36:53,133 --> 00:36:55,053
Speaker 2: from imports. People used to import.

822
00:36:55,453 --> 00:36:56,893
Speaker 3: Music back then.

823
00:36:56,973 --> 00:36:58,693
Speaker 2: You couldn't just get it on Spotify yet to import

824
00:36:58,733 --> 00:37:01,373
Speaker 2: the CDs, right, And they said, okay, bring these people

825
00:37:01,413 --> 00:37:04,253
Speaker 2: and tell them that their orders arrived. And I was petrified.

826
00:37:04,293 --> 00:37:07,173
Speaker 2: To ring these strangers, like petrified. I had fifty strangers

827
00:37:07,613 --> 00:37:10,773
Speaker 2: numbers and tell them that their pure CD had arrived.

828
00:37:10,853 --> 00:37:14,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was petrified to do it. Yeah, like scared. Yeah,

829
00:37:14,573 --> 00:37:15,093
Speaker 3: I don't know why.

830
00:37:15,213 --> 00:37:17,333
Speaker 2: It seems ridiculous now. I mean, I talk for a

831
00:37:17,373 --> 00:37:19,212
Speaker 2: living on the radio one hundred thousands of people.

832
00:37:19,213 --> 00:37:21,573
Speaker 4: But that would be quite daunting as a seventeen year

833
00:37:21,573 --> 00:37:23,253
Speaker 4: old or however the old you were. That's a very

834
00:37:23,373 --> 00:37:25,773
Speaker 4: daunting thing. But then you do it and you think, hey,

835
00:37:25,893 --> 00:37:26,652
Speaker 4: it's not so bad.

836
00:37:26,893 --> 00:37:28,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, I look at you. You go from the good

837
00:37:28,333 --> 00:37:30,173
Speaker 3: to the very good. You move, you move up the

838
00:37:31,093 --> 00:37:33,533
Speaker 3: latter if you possibly can. Yeah, it is eight to two.

839
00:37:33,653 --> 00:37:34,573
Speaker 3: Back very shortly.

840
00:37:35,933 --> 00:37:39,493
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

841
00:37:39,533 --> 00:37:42,053
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams

842
00:37:42,213 --> 00:37:43,893
Speaker 1: afternoons news talk said, be.

843
00:37:45,853 --> 00:37:48,172
Speaker 3: Very good. Afternoons. It is five to two.

844
00:37:48,933 --> 00:37:52,133
Speaker 4: We're getting hundreds hundreds of techs coming through on this

845
00:37:52,373 --> 00:37:55,613
Speaker 4: topic about the value of hard work and weather. For

846
00:37:55,693 --> 00:37:57,693
Speaker 4: your first job, your first full time job, you had

847
00:37:57,733 --> 00:37:59,333
Speaker 4: to leave town to move to a region because that's

848
00:37:59,373 --> 00:38:01,933
Speaker 4: where the job was. Nine two ninety two is the

849
00:38:02,213 --> 00:38:03,093
Speaker 4: text number.

850
00:38:04,133 --> 00:38:06,493
Speaker 2: The government is getting rid of the first hurdle. The

851
00:38:06,613 --> 00:38:08,173
Speaker 2: hurdle is that it is too easy to get on

852
00:38:08,213 --> 00:38:10,613
Speaker 2: the benefit. Take that away and there's an incentive work

853
00:38:10,653 --> 00:38:13,173
Speaker 2: to work. Yeah, I mean if the if, as we

854
00:38:13,253 --> 00:38:15,573
Speaker 2: were saying before, it's quite terrifying to do your first job,

855
00:38:15,893 --> 00:38:18,333
Speaker 2: then you probably need to be pushed into it in

856
00:38:18,413 --> 00:38:19,252
Speaker 2: some in some way.

857
00:38:19,453 --> 00:38:21,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. And if the difference is.

858
00:38:21,813 --> 00:38:25,333
Speaker 2: Having absolutely no money at all and being really annoying

859
00:38:25,333 --> 00:38:28,453
Speaker 2: to your parents, then maybe that that'll push you into it.

860
00:38:28,733 --> 00:38:31,093
Speaker 2: This text said works work. If it was fun, it

861
00:38:31,133 --> 00:38:32,893
Speaker 2: would be called fun, but it's called work.

862
00:38:33,693 --> 00:38:35,613
Speaker 3: Nicely said, very true.

863
00:38:36,133 --> 00:38:38,813
Speaker 2: Great conversation. There's so much full time labor requirements out

864
00:38:38,813 --> 00:38:40,853
Speaker 2: there for entry level jobs. Just look at the amount

865
00:38:40,853 --> 00:38:43,172
Speaker 2: of imported staff. There are a New Zealand job doing

866
00:38:43,293 --> 00:38:46,733
Speaker 2: jobs across sectors on and dairy farming, and there are

867
00:38:46,733 --> 00:38:48,773
Speaker 2: a lot of overseas farm staff for the New Zealand.

868
00:38:48,813 --> 00:38:51,253
Speaker 2: We need more young local staff coming through, even if

869
00:38:51,293 --> 00:38:53,493
Speaker 2: they start at the bottom. There is so many opportunities

870
00:38:53,613 --> 00:38:54,893
Speaker 2: within the EG sector.

871
00:38:54,773 --> 00:38:56,293
Speaker 3: And you can do a lot if you get started

872
00:38:56,333 --> 00:38:57,853
Speaker 3: in the exit. So we keep this going.

873
00:38:58,093 --> 00:39:00,413
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've got full boards at the moment. And so

874
00:39:00,533 --> 00:39:02,893
Speaker 4: many texts coming through. If you can't get through, keep trying. Oh,

875
00:39:02,893 --> 00:39:04,733
Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty. But we're going to

876
00:39:04,813 --> 00:39:09,013
Speaker 4: carry this over New Sport and Weather is fast approaching.

877
00:39:09,253 --> 00:39:11,333
Speaker 4: But'd love to hear your thoughts. What was your first

878
00:39:11,413 --> 00:39:13,253
Speaker 4: full time job? Did you have to move out of

879
00:39:13,333 --> 00:39:16,613
Speaker 4: your town for that job? And how crap was it?

880
00:39:16,773 --> 00:39:17,933
Speaker 3: What did that build in you?

881
00:39:18,293 --> 00:39:20,652
Speaker 4: And what was the crap job that made you who

882
00:39:20,773 --> 00:39:23,853
Speaker 4: you are today? New Sport on Weather fast approaching. Thank

883
00:39:23,933 --> 00:39:26,252
Speaker 4: you very much for your company. As always, you're listening

884
00:39:26,333 --> 00:39:29,253
Speaker 4: to Matt and Tyler. Hope you're having a great afternoon.

885
00:39:39,173 --> 00:39:42,893
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathan Taylor Adams

886
00:39:43,013 --> 00:39:44,813
Speaker 1: Afternoons news Talks.

887
00:39:44,853 --> 00:39:45,133
Speaker 17: It'd be.

888
00:39:47,693 --> 00:39:50,573
Speaker 4: Very good afternoon. Cheer, Welcome back into the show. Six

889
00:39:50,693 --> 00:39:53,493
Speaker 4: past two. Just before we get back into our discussions

890
00:39:53,533 --> 00:39:57,373
Speaker 4: about jobs, just repeating the news in ray Lean's bullet

891
00:39:57,413 --> 00:39:59,453
Speaker 4: and the Reserve Bank has cut the official cash rate

892
00:39:59,613 --> 00:40:02,933
Speaker 4: fifty basis points, taking it from three percent to two

893
00:40:02,973 --> 00:40:03,573
Speaker 4: point five.

894
00:40:04,173 --> 00:40:06,373
Speaker 2: You know what I know, it's a blunt tool and

895
00:40:06,373 --> 00:40:08,133
Speaker 2: there's a lot going on, and there was risks on

896
00:40:08,133 --> 00:40:10,453
Speaker 2: to twenty five and risks on fifty but that actually

897
00:40:10,573 --> 00:40:12,493
Speaker 2: fills me full of a little bit of hope. I

898
00:40:12,653 --> 00:40:16,653
Speaker 2: just feel like maybe and like these kind of changes

899
00:40:16,693 --> 00:40:19,933
Speaker 2: take a while to filter down into the system. They do,

900
00:40:20,333 --> 00:40:23,453
Speaker 2: but I think in terms of just something to make

901
00:40:23,573 --> 00:40:26,173
Speaker 2: people feel like there's been a little bit of fuel

902
00:40:26,213 --> 00:40:27,133
Speaker 2: poured on the economy.

903
00:40:27,253 --> 00:40:29,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's that's great. I mean I was

904
00:40:29,693 --> 00:40:29,933
Speaker 3: thinking it.

905
00:40:29,933 --> 00:40:33,053
Speaker 2: Should be fifty points last time you did. Yeah, but

906
00:40:33,813 --> 00:40:35,213
Speaker 2: I think I think this is a good thing.

907
00:40:35,333 --> 00:40:37,573
Speaker 4: It's the green shoots we need right now. So I'm

908
00:40:37,653 --> 00:40:39,573
Speaker 4: very happy. There'll be a lot of people very happy.

909
00:40:40,213 --> 00:40:42,613
Speaker 4: I think I'm due to refix part of our mortgage

910
00:40:42,653 --> 00:40:46,333
Speaker 4: in about a month's time, so that's good timing. But yeah,

911
00:40:46,693 --> 00:40:47,212
Speaker 4: happy days.

912
00:40:47,373 --> 00:40:52,733
Speaker 2: We just need the boardrooms, the CFOs and the CEOs

913
00:40:53,173 --> 00:40:56,093
Speaker 2: around this country to you know, they're talking about their

914
00:40:56,173 --> 00:40:56,813
Speaker 2: lack of confidence.

915
00:40:56,853 --> 00:41:00,013
Speaker 3: They need to manufacture the confidence. Start taking some risks. Yes,

916
00:41:00,573 --> 00:41:02,133
Speaker 3: get amongst it. Love this door.

917
00:41:02,373 --> 00:41:05,493
Speaker 2: Fifty basis points, let's go ye is that if that's

918
00:41:05,533 --> 00:41:09,413
Speaker 2: not enough to stop you, you know, complaining and winging

919
00:41:09,453 --> 00:41:11,613
Speaker 2: at the very tops of our companies, and.

920
00:41:13,133 --> 00:41:15,053
Speaker 3: Then what is get on with it? Bit of confidence,

921
00:41:15,133 --> 00:41:16,573
Speaker 3: but of optimism, love that talk.

922
00:41:16,973 --> 00:41:19,253
Speaker 4: We are going to catch up with Business editor at

923
00:41:19,373 --> 00:41:22,652
Speaker 4: Large for The Herald, Liam Dan very shortly and get

924
00:41:22,733 --> 00:41:25,053
Speaker 4: some analysis on that. But that will be very exciting

925
00:41:25,053 --> 00:41:26,253
Speaker 4: for a lot of people. Needs you to say, Matt

926
00:41:26,493 --> 00:41:29,173
Speaker 4: a better hope, a bit of green shoots hopefully at last.

927
00:41:29,453 --> 00:41:32,093
Speaker 4: But back to our discussion we have been having over

928
00:41:32,133 --> 00:41:34,773
Speaker 4: the last hour about first jobs and did you have

929
00:41:34,973 --> 00:41:37,933
Speaker 4: to leave your town to go to another region for

930
00:41:38,173 --> 00:41:42,213
Speaker 4: that job and how hard was that first job? So

931
00:41:42,613 --> 00:41:46,133
Speaker 4: here Prime Minister Christopher Luckson when announcing some changes to

932
00:41:46,613 --> 00:41:50,573
Speaker 4: youth benefits, he made this point about young people should

933
00:41:50,613 --> 00:41:52,212
Speaker 4: do whatever it takes to get a job.

934
00:41:52,533 --> 00:41:55,053
Speaker 7: Few I was and Dargavill recently talking to the coumera

935
00:41:55,213 --> 00:41:58,293
Speaker 7: industry desperate to get young people into find out that

936
00:41:58,373 --> 00:42:00,093
Speaker 7: young people show up for work for a little bit

937
00:42:00,253 --> 00:42:01,813
Speaker 7: and then then bugger off and don't shot up for

938
00:42:01,813 --> 00:42:04,533
Speaker 7: the rest of the week. And actually that's what we're

939
00:42:04,533 --> 00:42:06,133
Speaker 7: trying to get. We're trying to get those young people

940
00:42:06,533 --> 00:42:08,853
Speaker 7: connected with work so they can actually to show up

941
00:42:08,893 --> 00:42:12,093
Speaker 7: on time, have a work ethic, join the team, work hard,

942
00:42:12,893 --> 00:42:15,173
Speaker 7: you know, and and get and get self worth from it.

943
00:42:15,253 --> 00:42:16,093
Speaker 7: That's really important.

944
00:42:16,493 --> 00:42:19,173
Speaker 4: Now they got quite a bit of pushback from Ginny Anderson.

945
00:42:19,253 --> 00:42:22,333
Speaker 4: She was on the Politics Wednesday this morning with Mikey

946
00:42:22,493 --> 00:42:25,493
Speaker 4: she always is and Mark Mitchell as well, and she

947
00:42:25,693 --> 00:42:27,853
Speaker 4: pushed back on that idea of young people going to

948
00:42:27,893 --> 00:42:28,773
Speaker 4: places like Dargaball.

949
00:42:28,853 --> 00:42:30,493
Speaker 9: You've got a prime minister who's telling them to go

950
00:42:30,573 --> 00:42:34,413
Speaker 9: to Dargaville and dig up a kumra and that's crazy.

951
00:42:34,573 --> 00:42:35,893
Speaker 9: You know, they need some real.

952
00:42:37,533 --> 00:42:40,253
Speaker 3: Problem and that's the problem with your view of the

953
00:42:40,293 --> 00:42:41,613
Speaker 3: world is that we're.

954
00:42:42,973 --> 00:42:43,013
Speaker 5: No.

955
00:42:43,333 --> 00:42:46,253
Speaker 8: When I was a young guy shippeting, I would take

956
00:42:46,293 --> 00:42:47,413
Speaker 8: a job wherever it was.

957
00:42:47,653 --> 00:42:49,453
Speaker 9: I got my first job when I when I was

958
00:42:49,493 --> 00:42:51,533
Speaker 9: as soon as I could. You're just you're just poop

959
00:42:52,933 --> 00:42:54,813
Speaker 9: And I saved And I wasn't pooping that. I was

960
00:42:54,853 --> 00:42:57,853
Speaker 9: saying these no shops available in the regions these areas,

961
00:42:57,973 --> 00:42:59,573
Speaker 9: are not saying they don't.

962
00:42:59,613 --> 00:43:00,213
Speaker 5: You just use that.

963
00:43:00,453 --> 00:43:02,373
Speaker 8: You just use the example the Prome mins to use

964
00:43:02,413 --> 00:43:04,293
Speaker 8: and you're poop pulling it. And so why would a

965
00:43:04,333 --> 00:43:05,893
Speaker 8: young person go to Targool to go and with.

966
00:43:05,973 --> 00:43:08,013
Speaker 9: It because there's no jobs they mark that's the point.

967
00:43:08,653 --> 00:43:09,172
Speaker 3: That's not true.

968
00:43:09,213 --> 00:43:11,333
Speaker 2: There are I mean the point was that there was

969
00:43:11,493 --> 00:43:13,733
Speaker 2: jobs there. But yeah, I mean that is a difference

970
00:43:13,733 --> 00:43:14,293
Speaker 2: of opinion.

971
00:43:14,373 --> 00:43:14,653
Speaker 3: Isn't it.

972
00:43:14,693 --> 00:43:16,093
Speaker 2: And that's where it comes down to the crux of

973
00:43:16,133 --> 00:43:18,373
Speaker 2: this discussion today. On eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

974
00:43:19,053 --> 00:43:23,533
Speaker 2: so one camp says that there is value in moving

975
00:43:23,613 --> 00:43:26,213
Speaker 2: somewhere there to do a crap job in terms of

976
00:43:26,413 --> 00:43:30,172
Speaker 2: joining a team and getting some self worth, but also

977
00:43:30,333 --> 00:43:32,013
Speaker 2: realizing what a crap job is.

978
00:43:32,253 --> 00:43:36,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, as opposed to the other option.

979
00:43:36,293 --> 00:43:39,173
Speaker 2: Which is being eighteen and nineteen and being on a

980
00:43:39,213 --> 00:43:43,413
Speaker 2: benefit and not being part of a team, sitting at

981
00:43:43,453 --> 00:43:46,853
Speaker 2: home potentially, you know, and we all know the mental

982
00:43:46,893 --> 00:43:50,173
Speaker 2: health outcomes of that kind of behavior.

983
00:43:50,373 --> 00:43:54,453
Speaker 3: Definitely. So it's not that the picking kumeras.

984
00:43:54,333 --> 00:43:58,853
Speaker 2: In digging up Kumeras in Dargaville is the dream job

985
00:43:59,493 --> 00:44:03,493
Speaker 2: or necessarily and look, I haven't got anything against Dargable fantastic,

986
00:44:03,893 --> 00:44:06,173
Speaker 2: but maybe not the dream location for everyone. That's not

987
00:44:06,213 --> 00:44:08,613
Speaker 2: really the point. The point is that the best thing

988
00:44:08,973 --> 00:44:13,293
Speaker 2: that can happen for you is to get amongst some

989
00:44:13,533 --> 00:44:15,973
Speaker 2: kind of product of activity, a purpose in life, earning

990
00:44:16,053 --> 00:44:17,933
Speaker 2: minimum wage which is actually decent.

991
00:44:18,133 --> 00:44:19,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that it'll bring you nine hundred and

992
00:44:19,613 --> 00:44:21,373
Speaker 3: thirty six dollars a week before.

993
00:44:21,253 --> 00:44:24,533
Speaker 4: Tax, good money. I wait, hundred for young person anyway,

994
00:44:24,533 --> 00:44:26,893
Speaker 4: I wait, hundred eighty ten eighty can you hear your

995
00:44:26,973 --> 00:44:28,933
Speaker 4: views on this? How important is it for young people

996
00:44:28,973 --> 00:44:31,853
Speaker 4: to take on those tough, potentially lower paid jobs or

997
00:44:32,093 --> 00:44:33,133
Speaker 4: inconvenient first.

998
00:44:33,013 --> 00:44:34,653
Speaker 3: Jobs to build that resilience and work with it.

999
00:44:35,133 --> 00:44:37,093
Speaker 2: This six says, hey, guys, A very interesting topic and

1000
00:44:37,173 --> 00:44:40,053
Speaker 2: not without its complexities. Many of those jobs have numerous challenges.

1001
00:44:40,133 --> 00:44:43,053
Speaker 2: Many already mentioned some additional things to consider. It's a

1002
00:44:43,173 --> 00:44:48,853
Speaker 2: lack of family, friend support, it's a remote isolation, recreation, etcetera. Also,

1003
00:44:48,973 --> 00:44:51,373
Speaker 2: suicide is very high in many of these areas well.

1004
00:44:51,573 --> 00:44:54,813
Speaker 2: D I don't know if you've looked into the mental

1005
00:44:54,853 --> 00:45:00,333
Speaker 2: health outcomes of being on benefits and the temptations and

1006
00:45:00,413 --> 00:45:05,053
Speaker 2: problems that come with people that aren't working. And you

1007
00:45:05,133 --> 00:45:06,933
Speaker 2: know the fact that if you go on a benefit

1008
00:45:06,933 --> 00:45:10,853
Speaker 2: straight after school, then across your life you're on average

1009
00:45:10,893 --> 00:45:12,533
Speaker 2: going to spend eighteen years on that benefit.

1010
00:45:12,613 --> 00:45:17,213
Speaker 4: There's a big mental imping. So you absolutely be absolutely complicated. Yes, right,

1011
00:45:17,293 --> 00:45:18,853
Speaker 4: we have got full boards at the moment. If you

1012
00:45:18,893 --> 00:45:20,813
Speaker 4: can't get through, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty,

1013
00:45:20,973 --> 00:45:23,213
Speaker 4: keep trying. It is twelve past two.

1014
00:45:23,253 --> 00:45:23,813
Speaker 3: Back in a month.

1015
00:45:24,173 --> 00:45:28,613
Speaker 1: Wow, your home of afternoon talk mad Heathen Taylor Adams

1016
00:45:28,733 --> 00:45:32,693
Speaker 1: afternoons call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty news Talk said, be.

1017
00:45:34,293 --> 00:45:36,813
Speaker 4: Very good afternoon, tub it is a quarter past too.

1018
00:45:37,213 --> 00:45:38,933
Speaker 4: Is it fair to expect young people and move to

1019
00:45:39,013 --> 00:45:41,773
Speaker 4: places like Dargaball for jobs that are available?

1020
00:45:41,893 --> 00:45:43,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the text of Scott says, how long is

1021
00:45:43,533 --> 00:45:45,613
Speaker 3: Kumera a season? A couple of months? Then what they

1022
00:45:45,733 --> 00:45:46,093
Speaker 3: got to do?

1023
00:45:46,333 --> 00:45:49,453
Speaker 2: Move to the next short time job. That's why agriculture

1024
00:45:49,453 --> 00:45:50,172
Speaker 2: loves seasonal workers.

1025
00:45:50,293 --> 00:45:50,453
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1026
00:45:50,453 --> 00:45:52,733
Speaker 2: I don't think I think we're we're really fixating on

1027
00:45:52,813 --> 00:45:55,172
Speaker 2: the whole actually, as the text that that's just come

1028
00:45:55,253 --> 00:45:57,533
Speaker 2: through says, it's not about Dargaball or Kumera, it's about

1029
00:45:57,613 --> 00:45:59,613
Speaker 2: other things. Luxon was mentioning, like work.

1030
00:46:00,093 --> 00:46:00,732
Speaker 3: If they are.

1031
00:46:00,813 --> 00:46:03,933
Speaker 2: Joining a team and getting some south work. Yeah, I

1032
00:46:03,973 --> 00:46:06,013
Speaker 2: mean you're not gonna be picking, You're not gonna be

1033
00:46:06,053 --> 00:46:07,133
Speaker 2: digging up kuma all year.

1034
00:46:07,333 --> 00:46:07,373
Speaker 5: No.

1035
00:46:07,773 --> 00:46:11,693
Speaker 2: No, but if you can get off the benefit to

1036
00:46:11,773 --> 00:46:14,853
Speaker 2: go and do that for that time, yep. Or you

1037
00:46:14,933 --> 00:46:16,573
Speaker 2: know in this case, well you won't be anything at

1038
00:46:16,613 --> 00:46:19,212
Speaker 2: all if you're eighteen and nineteen now and your parents

1039
00:46:19,213 --> 00:46:21,333
Speaker 2: are in over sixty five thousand dollars a year. So

1040
00:46:22,133 --> 00:46:24,453
Speaker 2: if it's sitting at home and not earn anything, or

1041
00:46:24,533 --> 00:46:27,933
Speaker 2: going to dargafall to earn something. Even if it's just seasonal,

1042
00:46:28,293 --> 00:46:30,893
Speaker 2: it's still better. And then sure you travel around and

1043
00:46:30,973 --> 00:46:32,253
Speaker 2: go other jobs.

1044
00:46:32,093 --> 00:46:34,613
Speaker 4: Yep, building some skills and if you work hard then

1045
00:46:34,653 --> 00:46:36,813
Speaker 4: I'm sure once Kumita season is over, and we are

1046
00:46:36,933 --> 00:46:39,493
Speaker 4: focusing a bit much on Dargable and Kumberna, but once

1047
00:46:39,893 --> 00:46:42,293
Speaker 4: the season's over, then you can pick up another job.

1048
00:46:42,333 --> 00:46:44,293
Speaker 3: Ouch, that's not very nice calling it a crap job.

1049
00:46:44,613 --> 00:46:45,773
Speaker 3: I'm not calling it a crap job.

1050
00:46:45,853 --> 00:46:49,933
Speaker 2: I think Jenny Anderson was suggesting it was a crap

1051
00:46:50,013 --> 00:46:51,893
Speaker 2: job and saying it was dradiculous that the Prime Minister

1052
00:46:51,933 --> 00:46:55,893
Speaker 2: would suggest that young people go to Dargaval. She seemed

1053
00:46:55,893 --> 00:46:57,973
Speaker 2: to be suggesting Dargable was a terrible place and that

1054
00:46:58,333 --> 00:47:02,172
Speaker 2: it was and that wasn't a realistic idea that someone

1055
00:47:02,213 --> 00:47:04,613
Speaker 2: would pick Kumera. But the thing is someone has to

1056
00:47:04,653 --> 00:47:05,253
Speaker 2: pick the Kumra.

1057
00:47:05,453 --> 00:47:06,093
Speaker 3: Yeah that's right.

1058
00:47:06,173 --> 00:47:10,133
Speaker 4: I love Kumita beautiful, but someone has to pay Okay, right, yeah,

1059
00:47:10,613 --> 00:47:12,013
Speaker 4: I mean it's where we all.

1060
00:47:13,213 --> 00:47:16,213
Speaker 2: You may think that that's not a worthwhile job for

1061
00:47:16,293 --> 00:47:18,413
Speaker 2: people to do, but people can't start at the very

1062
00:47:18,493 --> 00:47:21,453
Speaker 2: top of an organization. They can't go they can't even

1063
00:47:21,493 --> 00:47:24,732
Speaker 2: walk into middle management. You know, if you say, let's

1064
00:47:24,733 --> 00:47:26,853
Speaker 2: say you're working in the film and television industry, is

1065
00:47:26,893 --> 00:47:29,213
Speaker 2: something that you know, I still work in. You start

1066
00:47:29,253 --> 00:47:31,533
Speaker 2: as a runner, and then you become a production assistant,

1067
00:47:31,773 --> 00:47:34,213
Speaker 2: and then you become a production coordinator, and then you

1068
00:47:34,293 --> 00:47:36,813
Speaker 2: become a production manager, and then you become a producer.

1069
00:47:37,453 --> 00:47:39,493
Speaker 3: It's not controversial, but you go. You always start at

1070
00:47:39,493 --> 00:47:41,813
Speaker 3: the bottom. Of course, you can't. You can't walk in

1071
00:47:41,813 --> 00:47:46,013
Speaker 3: and be a producer. No, exactly right. Uh, pret you

1072
00:47:46,093 --> 00:47:47,573
Speaker 3: want to have a chat about moving for jobs.

1073
00:47:49,373 --> 00:47:52,133
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I just made two cents on it. I

1074
00:47:52,293 --> 00:47:55,613
Speaker 6: moved actually countries, not towns a couple of decades ago,

1075
00:47:55,773 --> 00:47:59,493
Speaker 6: coming from very small village from India to beautiful town

1076
00:47:59,693 --> 00:48:01,172
Speaker 6: Temoru and Sultailand.

1077
00:48:01,733 --> 00:48:01,933
Speaker 21: Love.

1078
00:48:02,693 --> 00:48:07,933
Speaker 6: Yeah, just saying please, young people, just things will start appeating.

1079
00:48:08,013 --> 00:48:11,493
Speaker 6: Once you take the first step, things will start falling

1080
00:48:11,533 --> 00:48:14,613
Speaker 6: in place, like you'll start making friends and you'll you

1081
00:48:14,693 --> 00:48:18,013
Speaker 6: don't you'll start building a network and it builds. Chtector.

1082
00:48:18,093 --> 00:48:21,533
Speaker 6: I worked in onion factory and timrou and from there

1083
00:48:21,613 --> 00:48:24,732
Speaker 6: I made few friends. I've worked in kV orchards, kV

1084
00:48:25,093 --> 00:48:28,253
Speaker 6: orchards yeah, so just yeah, get out of the house

1085
00:48:28,853 --> 00:48:31,173
Speaker 6: and definitely things will start happening.

1086
00:48:31,533 --> 00:48:31,933
Speaker 21: That's all.

1087
00:48:32,013 --> 00:48:33,653
Speaker 3: I just wanted to say thank you for that.

1088
00:48:33,773 --> 00:48:37,212
Speaker 2: Cool Now, pray when you grew up. If you hadn't worked,

1089
00:48:37,293 --> 00:48:39,613
Speaker 2: what was what would have happened? What were the options?

1090
00:48:39,933 --> 00:48:42,133
Speaker 2: Was there was there if you didn't work? What was

1091
00:48:42,173 --> 00:48:42,692
Speaker 2: the other option?

1092
00:48:44,853 --> 00:48:44,893
Speaker 8: No?

1093
00:48:45,173 --> 00:48:48,333
Speaker 6: Because uh, back home, like I never worked for anything.

1094
00:48:48,453 --> 00:48:51,373
Speaker 6: My dad worked in government jobs, so everything was soon fed.

1095
00:48:51,933 --> 00:48:54,533
Speaker 6: So he was asking me to become a lawyer. So

1096
00:48:54,613 --> 00:48:57,853
Speaker 6: that's what I would have opted. But in that case

1097
00:48:57,933 --> 00:49:00,333
Speaker 6: I would have had support from my parents.

1098
00:49:00,533 --> 00:49:03,373
Speaker 3: So your options become a lawyer or moved to Timorrow

1099
00:49:03,413 --> 00:49:05,053
Speaker 3: and work in an onion factory, And you chose the

1100
00:49:05,093 --> 00:49:06,413
Speaker 3: young infectory and Tomorrow.

1101
00:49:08,413 --> 00:49:12,093
Speaker 6: Know, because I always had this thing and me, I

1102
00:49:12,213 --> 00:49:15,133
Speaker 6: wanted to settle down overseas. I wanted to experience the world,

1103
00:49:15,213 --> 00:49:17,333
Speaker 6: what the world had to offer. Plus I was the

1104
00:49:17,413 --> 00:49:22,093
Speaker 6: youngest in my family, so I had that leverage that time. Yeah,

1105
00:49:22,613 --> 00:49:25,293
Speaker 6: so I went for it, and I don't regret any

1106
00:49:25,333 --> 00:49:25,773
Speaker 6: part of it.

1107
00:49:26,053 --> 00:49:29,013
Speaker 2: So when you moved to Tomorrow, did you know anyone

1108
00:49:29,173 --> 00:49:29,893
Speaker 2: there for it?

1109
00:49:30,733 --> 00:49:30,773
Speaker 22: No?

1110
00:49:31,253 --> 00:49:33,573
Speaker 2: No, no one, not a single prad And what made

1111
00:49:33,613 --> 00:49:35,252
Speaker 2: you choose Tomorrow because I mean a lot of people

1112
00:49:35,253 --> 00:49:36,053
Speaker 2: fly into Auckland.

1113
00:49:37,253 --> 00:49:41,853
Speaker 6: But yeah, now, but my qualifications were not off the

1114
00:49:42,693 --> 00:49:46,533
Speaker 6: high level in neither my marks, so none of the

1115
00:49:46,693 --> 00:49:51,653
Speaker 6: university from Auckland that took me. So Tamoru in Iraqi Polytechnic.

1116
00:49:51,733 --> 00:49:54,413
Speaker 6: I was fortunate enough and they accepted my application and

1117
00:49:54,533 --> 00:49:55,133
Speaker 6: I went for it.

1118
00:49:55,973 --> 00:49:57,893
Speaker 3: Wow, what a great story. Are you still and you've

1119
00:49:57,973 --> 00:49:59,373
Speaker 3: remained there for twenty years? Did you say?

1120
00:50:00,493 --> 00:50:00,933
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.

1121
00:50:01,133 --> 00:50:02,933
Speaker 6: I was there for a couple of years and then

1122
00:50:03,053 --> 00:50:04,613
Speaker 6: I moved to Oakland.

1123
00:50:04,733 --> 00:50:06,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, right, I was going to say, I was

1124
00:50:06,173 --> 00:50:08,613
Speaker 3: going to start talking about Caroline Bay and it's been

1125
00:50:08,653 --> 00:50:11,333
Speaker 3: hotel and the yeah, the avery and all that kind

1126
00:50:11,333 --> 00:50:11,693
Speaker 3: of stuff.

1127
00:50:11,733 --> 00:50:15,853
Speaker 4: But yeah, Prey, thank you so much for you cool

1128
00:50:15,893 --> 00:50:18,093
Speaker 4: pret See what a great story. I mean, that puts

1129
00:50:18,173 --> 00:50:20,613
Speaker 4: things into perspective when someone like pret he decides to

1130
00:50:20,653 --> 00:50:22,373
Speaker 4: come to Tomorrow to work in an onion factory.

1131
00:50:22,933 --> 00:50:26,573
Speaker 3: Graham first jobs, your first job.

1132
00:50:27,453 --> 00:50:31,853
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'd spent my doldhoods in the back blocks of

1133
00:50:31,973 --> 00:50:39,653
Speaker 10: Gisbon on seven thousand acres and dogs and horses and everything.

1134
00:50:40,253 --> 00:50:43,253
Speaker 10: My first job was on the East Coast, an hour

1135
00:50:43,293 --> 00:50:48,613
Speaker 10: and a half from Gisbon working for forty dollars a

1136
00:50:48,653 --> 00:50:53,733
Speaker 10: week for sixty and seventy hours a week, five and

1137
00:50:53,773 --> 00:50:56,053
Speaker 10: a half days a week because we had work half

1138
00:50:56,173 --> 00:51:02,493
Speaker 10: day Saturday so and the other the other period of

1139
00:51:02,573 --> 00:51:08,573
Speaker 10: that week you'd spend breaking and horses and dogs. So

1140
00:51:09,693 --> 00:51:12,893
Speaker 10: really it was seven day week, Bob. But it was

1141
00:51:12,973 --> 00:51:17,573
Speaker 10: all done because there was a passion. So for forty

1142
00:51:17,653 --> 00:51:20,453
Speaker 10: hours a week, you you work seven.

1143
00:51:20,293 --> 00:51:20,813
Speaker 20: Days a week.

1144
00:51:21,573 --> 00:51:24,453
Speaker 3: So wow, when was this Graham.

1145
00:51:25,733 --> 00:51:26,732
Speaker 5: Ninety three six?

1146
00:51:27,853 --> 00:51:28,093
Speaker 3: Wow?

1147
00:51:28,653 --> 00:51:33,453
Speaker 2: So the minimum wage wasn't twenty three fifty back then.

1148
00:51:33,413 --> 00:51:33,893
Speaker 3: That's for sure.

1149
00:51:35,373 --> 00:51:38,333
Speaker 10: There was no wage. And the farm we're getting all

1150
00:51:38,413 --> 00:51:42,133
Speaker 10: the sdmps in Bythenian But I mean, yeah, but it

1151
00:51:43,093 --> 00:51:45,493
Speaker 10: wasn't about. It really wasn't about.

1152
00:51:47,213 --> 00:51:48,053
Speaker 5: It wasn't work.

1153
00:51:48,173 --> 00:51:54,933
Speaker 10: It's admission really, So that's what's that's what we've lost

1154
00:51:55,013 --> 00:51:57,973
Speaker 10: now because no one has a passion for work. It's work,

1155
00:51:58,133 --> 00:52:03,813
Speaker 10: isn't it. So you know, shepherd nowadays gets about sixty

1156
00:52:04,013 --> 00:52:07,973
Speaker 10: to seventy thousand dollars a year to do the same job.

1157
00:52:09,013 --> 00:52:12,053
Speaker 20: And I will say that, and.

1158
00:52:13,573 --> 00:52:15,573
Speaker 5: They get hold, they pay and they get this on

1159
00:52:15,693 --> 00:52:16,053
Speaker 5: that and.

1160
00:52:17,613 --> 00:52:22,093
Speaker 10: Huge, So see that change, That's what it's where I

1161
00:52:22,133 --> 00:52:23,413
Speaker 10: really rang up to say.

1162
00:52:23,453 --> 00:52:26,613
Speaker 2: Well, thank of you call Graham. So your phone line

1163
00:52:27,053 --> 00:52:27,613
Speaker 2: is messing up.

1164
00:52:28,333 --> 00:52:29,173
Speaker 3: This person's angry.

1165
00:52:29,333 --> 00:52:31,493
Speaker 2: So you're saying that give up your lease and friends,

1166
00:52:31,493 --> 00:52:33,613
Speaker 2: et cetera, to move to Dargable where there is very

1167
00:52:33,613 --> 00:52:36,173
Speaker 2: little accommodation to put Kuma for two months. It doesn't

1168
00:52:36,293 --> 00:52:39,692
Speaker 2: add up, then, what that's a misunderstanding because I've moved

1169
00:52:39,733 --> 00:52:41,333
Speaker 2: for Blenham for two months when I.

1170
00:52:41,453 --> 00:52:43,653
Speaker 3: Was young to pick cherries.

1171
00:52:43,813 --> 00:52:43,973
Speaker 5: Yep.

1172
00:52:44,013 --> 00:52:46,212
Speaker 2: I mean, so the option that's that's so the option

1173
00:52:46,373 --> 00:52:47,853
Speaker 2: is that you can't get the doll now if you're

1174
00:52:47,893 --> 00:52:51,573
Speaker 2: eighteen or nineteen, right, yeah, so you either sit at

1175
00:52:51,613 --> 00:52:54,133
Speaker 2: home and your parents have to look after you, or

1176
00:52:54,213 --> 00:52:56,533
Speaker 2: there's a job which you could go to Dargaville. And

1177
00:52:56,613 --> 00:53:00,093
Speaker 2: we're just really fixated on Daviagible because that's what the

1178
00:53:00,133 --> 00:53:02,493
Speaker 2: Prime Minister was suggesting that Jenny Anderson was running down.

1179
00:53:03,413 --> 00:53:06,173
Speaker 2: But even if it is just for two months, and

1180
00:53:06,253 --> 00:53:08,493
Speaker 2: that's two months is a long time. It's a long

1181
00:53:08,533 --> 00:53:10,853
Speaker 2: time sitting on a couch. Yeah, And so going to

1182
00:53:10,933 --> 00:53:14,293
Speaker 2: Dargavil for two months and earning minimum wage, I assume

1183
00:53:15,253 --> 00:53:17,573
Speaker 2: working with the Kumera building up skills, you know, and

1184
00:53:17,813 --> 00:53:20,733
Speaker 2: there is accommodation yeah, you know, if you earning nine

1185
00:53:20,773 --> 00:53:22,653
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty six dollars a week, there is accommodation.

1186
00:53:22,973 --> 00:53:25,093
Speaker 4: And it was never that controversially, just say you moved

1187
00:53:25,133 --> 00:53:28,933
Speaker 4: to Blenheim. I moved to Motaweka just outside of Nelson

1188
00:53:28,973 --> 00:53:30,653
Speaker 4: for a couple of months during apple season and that

1189
00:53:30,773 --> 00:53:33,173
Speaker 4: was hard graft. But nobody ever said why are you

1190
00:53:33,293 --> 00:53:35,333
Speaker 4: doing that? You know, what's what's the sense of moving

1191
00:53:35,373 --> 00:53:38,453
Speaker 4: to Modalweka and working on apple orchid? Of course that's

1192
00:53:38,533 --> 00:53:41,293
Speaker 4: what you did because I needed money over the holidays

1193
00:53:41,853 --> 00:53:44,373
Speaker 4: to be able to sort my life out during university.

1194
00:53:44,453 --> 00:53:47,733
Speaker 2: So I think the New Zealand is just a horrific

1195
00:53:47,893 --> 00:53:50,933
Speaker 2: place that if you're not exactly in the suburb that

1196
00:53:51,013 --> 00:53:52,853
Speaker 2: you grew up and then it was just a hell

1197
00:53:52,933 --> 00:53:55,853
Speaker 2: hole out there. It sounds like, I mean, there's beautiful

1198
00:53:55,893 --> 00:53:58,093
Speaker 2: places all around New Zealand that you can move to them.

1199
00:53:58,133 --> 00:54:00,293
Speaker 2: And the six says isn't forcing people to work somewhere

1200
00:54:00,333 --> 00:54:04,253
Speaker 2: they don't live, akin to force labor in North Korea. No, No,

1201
00:54:04,413 --> 00:54:06,813
Speaker 2: it's just saying that we that all the government saying

1202
00:54:06,853 --> 00:54:08,293
Speaker 2: is they're not going to pay you not to work

1203
00:54:08,773 --> 00:54:12,333
Speaker 2: when you're just for two years. Yeah, that you would

1204
00:54:12,333 --> 00:54:15,213
Speaker 2: the responsibility of appearance if they earn over sixty five thousand.

1205
00:54:15,253 --> 00:54:17,373
Speaker 2: That's just a two year period. I mean, it's a

1206
00:54:17,413 --> 00:54:19,853
Speaker 2: big jump to say that's North Korea. And it's a

1207
00:54:19,973 --> 00:54:22,493
Speaker 2: huge jump to say that moving to Dargaville to pick

1208
00:54:22,733 --> 00:54:25,013
Speaker 2: potatoes is some kind of I don't know, moving to

1209
00:54:25,053 --> 00:54:26,253
Speaker 2: the spice mines of Kessel.

1210
00:54:27,493 --> 00:54:29,533
Speaker 4: Do you think how good do you think the job

1211
00:54:29,573 --> 00:54:31,813
Speaker 4: seker benefit is in North Korea? I mean, now, I'm

1212
00:54:31,853 --> 00:54:34,413
Speaker 4: sure that's very lucrative. In North Korea, they really look

1213
00:54:34,453 --> 00:54:35,213
Speaker 4: after their citizens.

1214
00:54:35,293 --> 00:54:38,053
Speaker 3: Weren't working care be a break? Oh eight hundred and

1215
00:54:38,053 --> 00:54:41,533
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number. How soft are people

1216
00:54:41,573 --> 00:54:44,053
Speaker 3: where they think that it's akin to North Korea to

1217
00:54:44,173 --> 00:54:46,733
Speaker 3: go and get a job in a nice rural New

1218
00:54:46,853 --> 00:54:49,692
Speaker 3: Zealand town and experience some other part of the country. Yeah,

1219
00:54:49,773 --> 00:54:52,773
Speaker 3: crazy town, Love it though. Twenty four bars to beck

1220
00:54:52,813 --> 00:54:53,172
Speaker 3: in a month.

1221
00:54:57,173 --> 00:55:00,613
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and

1222
00:55:00,613 --> 00:55:02,293
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on news talks.

1223
00:55:02,293 --> 00:55:05,253
Speaker 4: I'd be very good afternoon. We're talking about excuse me,

1224
00:55:05,373 --> 00:55:07,933
Speaker 4: first jobs out of high school and what did you do?

1225
00:55:08,013 --> 00:55:10,853
Speaker 4: Did you to move from your town to work that job?

1226
00:55:10,893 --> 00:55:12,333
Speaker 3: And how tough was it? What did you learn from it?

1227
00:55:12,373 --> 00:55:12,573
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1228
00:55:12,573 --> 00:55:14,573
Speaker 2: I think it was a bigger issue being discussed here

1229
00:55:14,693 --> 00:55:16,773
Speaker 2: that wasn't just Dargaville and Kumra.

1230
00:55:16,893 --> 00:55:17,772
Speaker 3: But that's the way it's gone.

1231
00:55:17,933 --> 00:55:19,613
Speaker 2: And so it's great to have James here, who did

1232
00:55:19,653 --> 00:55:21,533
Speaker 2: the hard yards growing Kumra back in the day.

1233
00:55:23,773 --> 00:55:26,973
Speaker 18: Oh yes, so I'll just turn off my speaker.

1234
00:55:27,053 --> 00:55:29,053
Speaker 3: Hell, okay, where you go, James will wait?

1235
00:55:29,173 --> 00:55:31,133
Speaker 2: I could read a text well that we were now

1236
00:55:31,693 --> 00:55:34,373
Speaker 2: where we're going to James, We're good?

1237
00:55:34,533 --> 00:55:34,732
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1238
00:55:36,653 --> 00:55:36,853
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1239
00:55:38,413 --> 00:55:42,133
Speaker 18: The most amazing thing about well they should be doing

1240
00:55:42,453 --> 00:55:45,733
Speaker 18: saying it's a good thing to go here. It's a

1241
00:55:45,933 --> 00:55:51,853
Speaker 18: great opportunity for you to go down there, you experience

1242
00:55:51,973 --> 00:55:56,212
Speaker 18: a different part of New Zealand and and then pick

1243
00:55:56,293 --> 00:56:01,893
Speaker 18: whatever there is. I grew up here on my twenty

1244
00:56:02,413 --> 00:56:03,133
Speaker 18: twenty in the.

1245
00:56:03,173 --> 00:56:13,853
Speaker 23: Twenty nineteen nineties, right apples in Motueka, and I was useless.

1246
00:56:14,173 --> 00:56:16,853
Speaker 23: I was terrible, and I was making a real hash

1247
00:56:16,893 --> 00:56:21,813
Speaker 23: of it. But the guy knew that I was really enthusiastic.

1248
00:56:22,013 --> 00:56:24,053
Speaker 23: So he said to me, well, what are you going

1249
00:56:24,133 --> 00:56:27,413
Speaker 23: to the shed and grade the apples? And I'll show

1250
00:56:27,413 --> 00:56:28,973
Speaker 23: you how to grade them. And see it ain't.

1251
00:56:30,413 --> 00:56:33,292
Speaker 18: I said, Okay, So I was on a wage.

1252
00:56:33,053 --> 00:56:37,533
Speaker 23: Eight dollars an hour, but eight dollars.

1253
00:56:37,293 --> 00:56:41,293
Speaker 18: An hour back in those days to me was heed

1254
00:56:41,413 --> 00:56:41,893
Speaker 18: some money.

1255
00:56:42,533 --> 00:56:42,733
Speaker 8: You know.

1256
00:56:43,813 --> 00:56:44,253
Speaker 5: He put me.

1257
00:56:44,693 --> 00:56:46,573
Speaker 18: We had little batches and everything.

1258
00:56:47,333 --> 00:56:47,493
Speaker 17: You know.

1259
00:56:47,733 --> 00:56:49,853
Speaker 18: He had to pay like forty or fifty dollars a

1260
00:56:49,973 --> 00:56:52,293
Speaker 18: week towards the power and that was it.

1261
00:56:53,013 --> 00:56:53,813
Speaker 23: They looked after you.

1262
00:56:54,293 --> 00:56:55,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. Yeah all right.

1263
00:56:56,533 --> 00:57:00,213
Speaker 2: The stick says, Oh my god, New Zealand stopped crapping

1264
00:57:00,213 --> 00:57:02,812
Speaker 2: all over Dargaball. It's not about the kumina. It's about

1265
00:57:02,853 --> 00:57:05,413
Speaker 2: the young peoples taking ownership of their lives and working hard.

1266
00:57:05,613 --> 00:57:08,652
Speaker 3: Nicely said, yeah, that's it. Targa Ball is a good place, and.

1267
00:57:08,653 --> 00:57:10,692
Speaker 2: The six is, hey, guys, what have we become. Our

1268
00:57:10,733 --> 00:57:13,773
Speaker 2: ancestors would be mortified hearing us wings like this. People

1269
00:57:14,093 --> 00:57:16,733
Speaker 2: that don't want to work will find any technicality to

1270
00:57:16,813 --> 00:57:19,893
Speaker 2: show why they can't. This Texas says, it sucks how

1271
00:57:19,973 --> 00:57:22,493
Speaker 2: much anxiety card gets played. Anxiety is normal. It's not

1272
00:57:22,573 --> 00:57:26,533
Speaker 2: automatically a debilitating illness. I suffered panic attacks at work.

1273
00:57:26,853 --> 00:57:29,333
Speaker 2: That was debilitating, but that's the hand. I got doubt

1274
00:57:29,413 --> 00:57:31,893
Speaker 2: and so I had to work with my way through it,

1275
00:57:32,733 --> 00:57:34,973
Speaker 2: not roll over and sit on the Benny and ride

1276
00:57:35,013 --> 00:57:40,253
Speaker 2: away in a dark corner month after month. Hahaha, beauty mate, that.

1277
00:57:40,373 --> 00:57:42,573
Speaker 3: Is a good philosophy. Yeah, well done that man. Yeah

1278
00:57:42,733 --> 00:57:43,133
Speaker 3: all right.

1279
00:57:43,173 --> 00:57:45,413
Speaker 4: We're going to carry this on after the headlines. Oh eight,

1280
00:57:45,453 --> 00:57:47,533
Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty ten eighty what was your first

1281
00:57:47,653 --> 00:57:49,773
Speaker 4: job out of high school? First full time job? How

1282
00:57:49,893 --> 00:57:52,013
Speaker 4: hard was it and what did it teach you? Love

1283
00:57:52,093 --> 00:57:55,213
Speaker 4: to hear your stories? Also coming up after the headlines

1284
00:57:55,253 --> 00:57:57,333
Speaker 4: with Ray Lamb, we're going to catch up with Business

1285
00:57:57,453 --> 00:58:00,253
Speaker 4: editor at large for The Herald, Liam Dan to analyze

1286
00:58:00,453 --> 00:58:03,213
Speaker 4: this OCR rate cut of fifty bases points.

1287
00:58:03,293 --> 00:58:03,853
Speaker 1: Wooooo.

1288
00:58:07,293 --> 00:58:10,813
Speaker 16: Hu's talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis, it's

1289
00:58:10,933 --> 00:58:14,173
Speaker 16: no trouble with a blue bubble. The Reserve banks slash

1290
00:58:14,293 --> 00:58:18,253
Speaker 16: the official cash rate fifty basis points this afternoon, taking

1291
00:58:18,333 --> 00:58:22,133
Speaker 16: it from three percent to two point five Auckland Police

1292
00:58:22,213 --> 00:58:26,293
Speaker 16: a fatal house fire in Buckland's Beach last week was

1293
00:58:26,333 --> 00:58:30,413
Speaker 16: deliberately lit on their investigating the two deaths as homicides.

1294
00:58:30,853 --> 00:58:32,893
Speaker 16: The victims were a thirty six year old man and

1295
00:58:33,053 --> 00:58:36,893
Speaker 16: his eleven year old son. Three people escaped, two with injuries.

1296
00:58:37,693 --> 00:58:41,333
Speaker 16: A new political poll has national dipping into the below

1297
00:58:41,493 --> 00:58:45,853
Speaker 16: thirty Doldrums on twenty nine point six percent, trailing Labour's

1298
00:58:46,013 --> 00:58:49,733
Speaker 16: thirty one point two, but support for enz First's risen

1299
00:58:49,853 --> 00:58:53,813
Speaker 16: to ten point six. Live Ocean Foundation says the passing

1300
00:58:53,893 --> 00:58:57,093
Speaker 16: of a bill extending protections for the Hodarchy Gulf is

1301
00:58:57,173 --> 00:59:01,253
Speaker 16: crucial for helping the ocean and a huge milestone. Meanwhile,

1302
00:59:01,293 --> 00:59:04,293
Speaker 16: a new climate adaptation scheme led by Earth Science As

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Speaker 16: Zealand will work to develop solutions and reduce risks. It's

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Speaker 16: regional council, sectors and communities the focus on making things happen.

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Speaker 16: Banks and Armorguard clash over future of endz cash services.

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Speaker 16: Find out more at ENZI Herald Premium Macnat to Matt

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Speaker 16: Eathan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Ray Lean say, as we heard,

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Speaker 4: the Reserve Bank has cut the OCR fifty basis points,

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Speaker 4: taking it from three percent to two point five percent.

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Speaker 4: For analysis, we joined once again by New Zealand Herald

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Speaker 4: Business Editor at Large Liam Dan Happy days ly very exciting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean you know something happened. Yeah, it

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Speaker 3: feels exciting, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it feels like some sort of positive decision,

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00:59:44,253 --> 00:59:45,813
Speaker 2: even though it suggests that.

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00:59:45,853 --> 00:59:46,733
Speaker 3: We're in a bad state.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, I feel like people are crying out for that

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Speaker 24: if the government's listening, you know, that's sort of that

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Speaker 24: sort of vibe.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 24: I mean, let's remember that there are probably some listeners

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00:59:55,613 --> 00:59:57,773
Speaker 24: who have their mortgage paid off or don't have a

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Speaker 24: mortgage and have some money in a bank and bank

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Speaker 24: deposits going.

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Speaker 2: Those people are coming through on the nine two nine

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Speaker 2: two around our woos, so.

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Speaker 3: It's important to mention them.

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Speaker 24: But I guess in terms of putting money back in

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Speaker 24: the pockets of a large chunk of New Zealand, this

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Speaker 24: will do that. The Monetary Policy Committee talked a lot

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Speaker 24: about inflation risks and then sort of talked about why

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Speaker 24: they could look through them. So they did warn that,

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Speaker 24: you know, inflation is currently two point seven, might go

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Speaker 24: to three, might even go above it, and so they

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Speaker 24: really had to sort of make the case that they

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Speaker 24: think things like food prices and power prices and the

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Speaker 24: rates and so on will ease, and that they're confident

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Speaker 24: that there is what they call enough spare capacity in

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Speaker 24: the economy, which what we would say is the economy

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Speaker 24: is stuffed enough to mean that inflation will keep coming down.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of people, myself included was saying fifty

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Speaker 2: points should have been the amount last time, including members

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Speaker 2: of the Monetary Policy Committe. Obviously they weren't unanimous last time,

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Speaker 2: so were they slow? Yeah, did they miss a trick?

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Speaker 24: Maybe, you know, like they don't always get it right,

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Speaker 24: And part of it is, I mean it certainly that

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01:01:14,333 --> 01:01:19,253
Speaker 24: second quarter was uglier than people thought. But they did

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01:01:19,653 --> 01:01:22,773
Speaker 24: actually say that they haven't adjusted their you know, that

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Speaker 24: ugly second quarter GDP minus zero point nine. They say

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Speaker 24: they haven't adjusted their view on that as much as

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Speaker 24: they might have because there is some weird accounting stuff

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Speaker 24: in that they think it will reverse out. And they

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Speaker 24: said a few positive things about the recovery getting underway.

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Speaker 24: Did they get it wrong?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 24: Probably, But I mean with hindsighth it's not for you

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Speaker 24: because you called it. But you know, they do have

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Speaker 24: to look at inflation quite seriously. But I think what's

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Speaker 24: certainly what's happened since that last call is there's been nothing,

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Speaker 24: nothing much to make them feel more heartened that the

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Speaker 24: economy is coming back on its own. They feel like

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Speaker 24: it needs that fuel and gene.

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Speaker 25: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just on that inflation question, I mean, isn't it

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Speaker 4: the case now that in general, we're older, we're wiser.

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Speaker 4: We're not going to be going out spending the same

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Speaker 4: level that we were when inflation started a skyrocket. It's

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Speaker 4: just not those same dangers exist in the economy that

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Speaker 4: is going to see those levels again.

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Speaker 24: I would like to think that, but I sort of

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Speaker 24: almost can remember, even in that post COVID phase, people

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Speaker 24: going oh, well, this is different. This is going to

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Speaker 24: be a short term inflationary spike. We can look through

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Speaker 24: this one and it just kept going and going. So

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Speaker 24: you have to be a bit careful, you know, and

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Speaker 24: you are always vulnerable to you know, still don't know

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Speaker 24: quite what the final impact of tariffs and things will be,

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Speaker 24: whether that's inflationary or the opposite, because you know, we

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Speaker 24: might be getting cheap goods out of China and things.

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Speaker 24: But some of those big things, I think power prices

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Speaker 24: should start to ease, or at least the rate of

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01:02:50,613 --> 01:02:53,973
Speaker 24: increase will ease. Food prices. We've already seen dairy prices

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Speaker 24: coming down. I think you'll start to see butter come

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Speaker 24: down on the supermarket finally, and so that should ease.

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Speaker 24: And then the more core inflation in the economy, which is,

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Speaker 24: you know, the amount we pay each other for services

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Speaker 24: and get things done. You know that's coming off because

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Speaker 24: people basically are more desperate for work. Then, you know,

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Speaker 24: that's what they mean by spare capacity. We're just not running.

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Speaker 24: The economy is not running at full steam by any stretch.

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Speaker 2: How much lower can they go? The reserve vent must

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Speaker 2: be running out of wiggle room pretty soon.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's not bad. I mean two point five. They

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Speaker 3: could go.

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Speaker 24: Well, they've implied that they'll go to two point two

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Speaker 24: five and that's sort of priced and expected by the

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Speaker 24: end of the year. They could go to two. If

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Speaker 24: things don't really pull up, they could go to zero.

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Speaker 24: They could go to actually, you know, if you look

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Speaker 24: at what Sweden did in like the two thousand and

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Speaker 24: sixteen era or something like that, you can go negative,

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01:03:46,893 --> 01:03:50,413
Speaker 24: which it gets very very weird, very fast. They start

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Speaker 24: paying you to take money.

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, what's stagflation.

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Speaker 24: Stagflation, Well, that is when you've got the two worst

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Speaker 24: things in the economy happening at once, which is higher

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01:04:00,573 --> 01:04:03,773
Speaker 24: unemployment and higher inflation. And we've kind of got a

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Speaker 24: little bit of that at the moment, and you don't

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Speaker 24: you know, that's a bad place to be because you'd

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Speaker 24: like to think the Reserve Bank can sort of move

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01:04:11,133 --> 01:04:13,853
Speaker 24: the lever to pull one up and one down when

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01:04:13,893 --> 01:04:15,733
Speaker 24: both are and you know, when both are happening at once,

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Speaker 24: that is pretty ugly because dropping the dropping the OCR

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01:04:20,493 --> 01:04:23,533
Speaker 24: does probably help inflation get a foothold.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, early early days.

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Speaker 4: At the moment, it's only released forty minutes ago, but

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Speaker 4: any word from the bank sit about dropping some of

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Speaker 4: those deposit rates, those interest rates a little bit further,

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Speaker 4: I haven't.

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Speaker 24: Seen anything yet. I would say they they did move

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Speaker 24: a little bit in advance of this. We saw some

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01:04:41,773 --> 01:04:44,213
Speaker 24: of the one year and two year fixed rates come down,

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Speaker 24: so we might not see the fixed move too fast

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01:04:48,053 --> 01:04:50,013
Speaker 24: until they get a bit of a feeling the market.

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Speaker 24: It's a feeling for where things go next. Floating rates

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01:04:52,693 --> 01:04:54,733
Speaker 24: should should move quickly and we should start to see

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01:04:55,013 --> 01:04:57,853
Speaker 24: that come through. Sometimes the banks are quicker with those

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Speaker 24: press releases.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: They must be here, yeah, yeah, breather, yeah, absolutely, Thank

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Speaker 3: you very much. Liam.

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01:05:05,933 --> 01:05:07,813
Speaker 4: There's a bit of excitement out there in the newsroom,

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01:05:07,813 --> 01:05:09,733
Speaker 4: so we'll see what happens over the next quarter.

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01:05:10,133 --> 01:05:12,253
Speaker 3: But great to get your analysis as always. Good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Cheers guys.

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Speaker 4: That is Liam Dan New Zealand Heeral Business Editor at

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01:05:15,693 --> 01:05:18,053
Speaker 4: Large and just repeating that news to Reserve Bank cut

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01:05:18,133 --> 01:05:21,013
Speaker 4: the official cash rate fifty basis points, taking it from

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01:05:21,053 --> 01:05:23,853
Speaker 4: three percent to two point five percent. We are going

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Speaker 4: back to a discussion we've been having about first jobs

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01:05:26,533 --> 01:05:28,853
Speaker 4: and did you have to move from your town to

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01:05:28,973 --> 01:05:30,453
Speaker 4: a region to take up that job?

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01:05:30,693 --> 01:05:33,813
Speaker 3: And the crapness, the toughness of that job. What did

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01:05:33,853 --> 01:05:35,093
Speaker 3: you learn from that? What did it build?

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01:05:35,133 --> 01:05:36,253
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what a lot of people are

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01:05:36,253 --> 01:05:37,653
Speaker 2: coming through on a nine two nine ten. It's sticking

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01:05:37,733 --> 01:05:40,693
Speaker 2: up for Dargaville and begging for Kumra.

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01:05:40,813 --> 01:05:42,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like a good place. So I haven't

1451
01:05:42,093 --> 01:05:44,053
Speaker 3: been for a long time, but look on for it.

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01:05:44,133 --> 01:05:47,333
Speaker 2: It's been turning into the whipping boy of locations and jobs.

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01:05:47,413 --> 01:05:49,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, leave dogs alone. It is twenty one to three.

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01:05:51,253 --> 01:05:54,413
Speaker 1: Madd Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on oh, eight

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01:05:54,533 --> 01:05:57,333
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heathen Taylor Adams

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01:05:57,493 --> 01:05:58,893
Speaker 1: afternoons news talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be very good afternoonser.

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01:06:00,573 --> 01:06:02,733
Speaker 4: So we have been talking about your first job outside

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01:06:02,733 --> 01:06:04,173
Speaker 4: of school and whether you had to move from your

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01:06:04,253 --> 01:06:06,373
Speaker 4: town to a region to take up that job.

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01:06:06,613 --> 01:06:09,573
Speaker 3: As has been asked of some young people in twenty five.

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01:06:10,253 --> 01:06:13,533
Speaker 2: Dargaball Rules says this text. They have no information on

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01:06:13,613 --> 01:06:17,093
Speaker 2: why Dargable Best Public lose New Zealand. That is important,

1464
01:06:17,133 --> 01:06:19,933
Speaker 2: it's very Let's not turn this into kicking the crap

1465
01:06:19,973 --> 01:06:23,093
Speaker 2: out of Dargable. Yeah, I mean Jenny Anderson has come

1466
01:06:23,173 --> 01:06:25,053
Speaker 2: on friendly comments about Dargable.

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01:06:24,813 --> 01:06:27,653
Speaker 3: Not how Dargable. We love Dargable, hear me. Welcome to

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01:06:27,693 --> 01:06:28,013
Speaker 3: the show.

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01:06:29,053 --> 01:06:30,453
Speaker 21: Hello, how are you?

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Speaker 22: I'm good, mate, I'm good.

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Speaker 10: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like you're driving are yeah? You are you

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01:06:36,213 --> 01:06:36,693
Speaker 3: on the road?

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01:06:37,893 --> 01:06:38,053
Speaker 11: Yes?

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01:06:38,133 --> 01:06:39,173
Speaker 22: Someone tucked over?

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01:06:39,573 --> 01:06:41,653
Speaker 3: Are you where you're driving between at the moment?

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01:06:41,733 --> 01:06:45,613
Speaker 22: Emmy, I'm just working around well engine area.

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01:06:46,253 --> 01:06:48,413
Speaker 3: Look good on you. So your thoughts on this?

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01:06:50,213 --> 01:06:52,893
Speaker 22: I think a young one there too, plubly so mate.

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01:06:54,773 --> 01:06:58,653
Speaker 22: I think the moments and some of their days just breaking.

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01:06:59,413 --> 01:07:04,693
Speaker 22: Wrap them up and bubble wrap. Yeah yeah, check the

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01:07:04,813 --> 01:07:07,173
Speaker 22: ars and get them out here to work. My first

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01:07:07,213 --> 01:07:09,973
Speaker 22: job when I was when I thirteen, that's gone about

1484
01:07:10,013 --> 01:07:18,253
Speaker 22: fifty years, was tricky. Meant in the chickery and seventy

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01:07:18,293 --> 01:07:19,013
Speaker 22: five cents an hour.

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01:07:19,013 --> 01:07:19,373
Speaker 8: I was on.

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Speaker 3: Hard yacker, very hard yeacker, right.

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Speaker 22: But you know it gave me self worth. I found

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01:07:30,093 --> 01:07:31,333
Speaker 22: out what money was all about.

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01:07:31,493 --> 01:07:32,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's key.

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01:07:32,253 --> 01:07:35,573
Speaker 22: I want I just wanted to make more. But the

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01:07:35,653 --> 01:07:38,053
Speaker 22: thing was, my father said to me, he goes, I

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01:07:38,133 --> 01:07:39,533
Speaker 22: wanted to leave school straight away.

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Speaker 17: M h.

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Speaker 22: And because I was starting in I wasn't allowed. So

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01:07:44,773 --> 01:07:47,373
Speaker 22: when I said fifteen at the time, I said I

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01:07:47,493 --> 01:07:48,893
Speaker 22: want to go back to school. He goes, we can

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01:07:48,893 --> 01:07:49,813
Speaker 22: get a joke, you can live.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: He comes back from the pub that night, he goes,

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01:07:53,333 --> 01:07:54,253
Speaker 22: you start working tomorrow.

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01:07:56,053 --> 01:08:00,093
Speaker 4: So starting work at thirteen was that pretty uncommon when

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01:08:00,333 --> 01:08:02,813
Speaker 4: when you're at that age, hemmy and and and also

1504
01:08:02,933 --> 01:08:04,893
Speaker 4: follow up question, how did you get the job at

1505
01:08:04,933 --> 01:08:06,693
Speaker 4: the at the chicken factory.

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01:08:06,333 --> 01:08:07,013
Speaker 3: Or the chicken coop.

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01:08:09,533 --> 01:08:13,093
Speaker 22: We lived out in the country and our neighbors and

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01:08:13,893 --> 01:08:15,573
Speaker 22: I just went over and asked them. I said, oh,

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01:08:15,653 --> 01:08:18,173
Speaker 22: do you need do you need a hene? And he

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01:08:18,253 --> 01:08:22,173
Speaker 22: looked at me and gas, okay, I'll pay you seventy

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01:08:22,213 --> 01:08:24,173
Speaker 22: five cents an hour. And I thought there was a

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01:08:24,173 --> 01:08:24,973
Speaker 22: big money back then.

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01:08:26,572 --> 01:08:30,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, well now that would take you, let's say twelve

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01:08:30,452 --> 01:08:32,852
Speaker 2: they will taking about fifteen hours working at seventy five

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01:08:32,933 --> 01:08:35,333
Speaker 2: cents an hour, and nowadays to buy twelve eggs.

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01:08:36,452 --> 01:08:40,012
Speaker 3: Right, I realized that your pocket.

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01:08:40,053 --> 01:08:43,892
Speaker 22: A few at that, right, well, yeah, we're we got

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01:08:43,933 --> 01:08:46,652
Speaker 22: given you know, half a dozen are and then yeah.

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Speaker 22: But at the end of the day, if you want

1520
01:08:49,612 --> 01:08:51,052
Speaker 22: to work, you'll work.

1521
01:08:52,612 --> 01:08:53,372
Speaker 20: You go and do it.

1522
01:08:53,772 --> 01:08:56,093
Speaker 22: But a lot of kids, like I've got seven childs

1523
01:08:56,133 --> 01:09:01,412
Speaker 22: on the mind, and the rule was you either go

1524
01:09:01,572 --> 01:09:04,572
Speaker 22: to school or you get a job. You don't go

1525
01:09:04,732 --> 01:09:09,692
Speaker 22: to school, or I'm going to give you is food

1526
01:09:09,732 --> 01:09:12,973
Speaker 22: on the table, a roof over your head, news and

1527
01:09:13,053 --> 01:09:16,932
Speaker 22: new socks, eve, anything else is going to be second head. Yeah,

1528
01:09:16,933 --> 01:09:20,452
Speaker 22: well you know the kids that liked that, five boys,

1529
01:09:20,933 --> 01:09:23,093
Speaker 22: two girls like that.

1530
01:09:23,293 --> 01:09:24,492
Speaker 3: It's good philosophy, emmy.

1531
01:09:24,572 --> 01:09:26,972
Speaker 4: So when you were picking up the chicken the eggs,

1532
01:09:27,053 --> 01:09:28,933
Speaker 4: did you think, even as a thirteen year old, I

1533
01:09:28,973 --> 01:09:30,892
Speaker 4: don't want to do this for the rest of my life.

1534
01:09:31,452 --> 01:09:34,612
Speaker 4: I'm learning some good skills here, but this is hard, yeaka,

1535
01:09:34,732 --> 01:09:37,012
Speaker 4: and I'm going to push myself to do something something else.

1536
01:09:39,853 --> 01:09:42,652
Speaker 22: At that stage, I didn't care because I was making

1537
01:09:42,732 --> 01:09:47,253
Speaker 22: myself some money. Yeah, the future hadn't been written.

1538
01:09:47,853 --> 01:09:49,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for you call hem me. So just

1539
01:09:49,973 --> 01:09:52,692
Speaker 3: working this out, yeah, I think just going for this this.

1540
01:09:52,973 --> 01:09:55,652
Speaker 2: Some eggs here have just gone so I think eggs

1541
01:09:55,652 --> 01:09:59,692
Speaker 2: are about eighty five cents per egg now, right, so

1542
01:09:59,853 --> 01:10:02,572
Speaker 2: himy was working seventy five cents an hour picking up.

1543
01:10:02,772 --> 01:10:04,572
Speaker 3: So even one hours of work wouldn't have got on

1544
01:10:04,612 --> 01:10:07,213
Speaker 3: one egg. I would have got on No, I wouldn't

1545
01:10:07,213 --> 01:10:10,013
Speaker 3: have got on money. That is hard. Yeah, that is

1546
01:10:10,013 --> 01:10:12,372
Speaker 3: a hard first job. What a good man. Thank you

1547
01:10:12,452 --> 01:10:12,772
Speaker 3: very much.

1548
01:10:13,133 --> 01:10:15,972
Speaker 2: Finally we finally reached the point of our radio show

1549
01:10:16,013 --> 01:10:17,532
Speaker 2: Tyler where we talk about the price of eggs.

1550
01:10:17,652 --> 01:10:19,692
Speaker 3: I love the price. It's only taking us nearly a year.

1551
01:10:20,053 --> 01:10:22,933
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's about times, right, take you more of your

1552
01:10:23,013 --> 01:10:24,972
Speaker 4: calls on this. I wait one hundred and eighty ten

1553
01:10:25,173 --> 01:10:27,093
Speaker 4: eighty Paul, how are you?

1554
01:10:27,173 --> 01:10:27,333
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1555
01:10:27,333 --> 01:10:27,612
Speaker 25: How are you?

1556
01:10:27,893 --> 01:10:28,013
Speaker 17: There?

1557
01:10:28,053 --> 01:10:28,372
Speaker 3: Were good?

1558
01:10:29,532 --> 01:10:31,892
Speaker 21: You've had some good calls. Yeah, yeah, I just sort

1559
01:10:31,893 --> 01:10:34,532
Speaker 21: of your whole topics that have brought back a swirling

1560
01:10:35,213 --> 01:10:39,412
Speaker 21: load of memories for me. I my first job when

1561
01:10:39,412 --> 01:10:41,892
Speaker 21: I got expelled from school for long hair was working

1562
01:10:41,933 --> 01:10:44,692
Speaker 21: for the Auckland Drug Company in Auckland. But my main

1563
01:10:44,772 --> 01:10:46,972
Speaker 21: interest was to, you know, to get into the music

1564
01:10:47,013 --> 01:10:50,612
Speaker 21: scene because I was a musician, and so there were

1565
01:10:50,692 --> 01:10:53,972
Speaker 21: times when I had to you know, leave town, leave Auckland,

1566
01:10:54,013 --> 01:10:56,092
Speaker 21: and you know, if there was no work in Auckland,

1567
01:10:56,572 --> 01:10:59,333
Speaker 21: the phone would ring and they'd want a drummer. And

1568
01:10:59,372 --> 01:11:01,772
Speaker 21: I remember driving this nearly fifty years ago. It was

1569
01:11:01,853 --> 01:11:06,333
Speaker 21: beginning of seventy six and i'd been out of work

1570
01:11:06,372 --> 01:11:09,013
Speaker 21: for about five months in Auckland and a band that

1571
01:11:09,093 --> 01:11:11,612
Speaker 21: had seen me playing when they'd been up in Orkland.

1572
01:11:12,013 --> 01:11:13,333
Speaker 21: They rang up and said, you want to come down

1573
01:11:13,372 --> 01:11:15,612
Speaker 21: to christ Church and we've got a residency starving. So

1574
01:11:16,412 --> 01:11:18,253
Speaker 21: I remember borrowing the money off a father, was some

1575
01:11:18,333 --> 01:11:21,812
Speaker 21: petrol and me and a mate jumping in the fifty

1576
01:11:21,893 --> 01:11:25,013
Speaker 21: nine chev bealle Atre and driving down to Crowschis to

1577
01:11:25,093 --> 01:11:26,452
Speaker 21: play in the band, with all the drums in the

1578
01:11:26,492 --> 01:11:29,133
Speaker 21: back seat and everything. And I joined the band and

1579
01:11:29,213 --> 01:11:32,532
Speaker 21: there and one of the big things about when you're young,

1580
01:11:33,412 --> 01:11:37,333
Speaker 21: you're your physical peak and you've got all that sort

1581
01:11:37,333 --> 01:11:41,412
Speaker 21: of resilience and you know in confidence, and that's the

1582
01:11:41,492 --> 01:11:44,492
Speaker 21: time when you should take those risks and take those

1583
01:11:44,612 --> 01:11:47,293
Speaker 21: chances because you also you don't realize at the time,

1584
01:11:47,333 --> 01:11:51,213
Speaker 21: but you're you're you're building important relationships which will pay

1585
01:11:51,253 --> 01:11:53,852
Speaker 21: off in the future. And when I was in that

1586
01:11:53,973 --> 01:11:57,133
Speaker 21: band in Chraischich, we needed we needed a guitarist and

1587
01:11:57,173 --> 01:11:58,973
Speaker 21: I knew have a guy in Auckland that was out

1588
01:11:59,013 --> 01:12:01,372
Speaker 21: of work. His name was Kevin, and so we ran

1589
01:12:01,452 --> 01:12:02,852
Speaker 21: Kevin is there, Kevin, do you want to come down

1590
01:12:02,853 --> 01:12:05,452
Speaker 21: to Christich So he came down and he played in

1591
01:12:05,492 --> 01:12:07,652
Speaker 21: the band We're there for about a year, and then

1592
01:12:08,732 --> 01:12:13,173
Speaker 21: a couple of years later he went to Australia and

1593
01:12:13,812 --> 01:12:16,692
Speaker 21: because he put a man together called my Sex, and

1594
01:12:16,893 --> 01:12:19,532
Speaker 21: he rang me and before we're just about to go

1595
01:12:19,612 --> 01:12:21,412
Speaker 21: to Sydney, do you want to come across with? And

1596
01:12:21,532 --> 01:12:23,253
Speaker 21: I was And now that was a time when I

1597
01:12:23,372 --> 01:12:26,412
Speaker 21: was too scared to take the leap, and I said, oh, no,

1598
01:12:26,532 --> 01:12:28,133
Speaker 21: I've got I've got because I was playing in a band,

1599
01:12:28,173 --> 01:12:31,253
Speaker 21: and I said no, thanks Kevin. You know, I hope

1600
01:12:31,293 --> 01:12:33,812
Speaker 21: everything goes well for you. And and of course that

1601
01:12:33,973 --> 01:12:38,012
Speaker 21: I regret not taking that job. But then a couple

1602
01:12:38,013 --> 01:12:40,692
Speaker 21: of years later they needed a drummer again and he

1603
01:12:40,853 --> 01:12:43,532
Speaker 21: rang me, and so on eighty one I went to Sydney.

1604
01:12:43,612 --> 01:12:46,412
Speaker 21: But yeah, I look back now and I'm so glad

1605
01:12:46,452 --> 01:12:48,013
Speaker 21: that I did, So.

1606
01:12:48,053 --> 01:12:48,572
Speaker 17: Were you and My.

1607
01:12:50,133 --> 01:12:52,893
Speaker 2: Sex For you know songs like Blue Day, which is

1608
01:12:52,933 --> 01:12:55,852
Speaker 2: one of them. Yeah, Blue Day is that song is

1609
01:12:55,973 --> 01:12:59,253
Speaker 2: so good. It's one of the most underrated compositions in

1610
01:12:59,333 --> 01:13:01,852
Speaker 2: New Zealand music history. I just think Blue Day is

1611
01:13:01,853 --> 01:13:06,333
Speaker 2: an incredibly well written, well played It's a fantastic song.

1612
01:13:06,412 --> 01:13:06,812
Speaker 3: Blue Day.

1613
01:13:07,452 --> 01:13:08,892
Speaker 21: Yeah show there.

1614
01:13:09,173 --> 01:13:11,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, another one that I regret.

1615
01:13:12,333 --> 01:13:14,892
Speaker 21: I almost I was off at a job and split

1616
01:13:15,053 --> 01:13:18,253
Speaker 21: ends well. In nineteen seventy four, I was only eighteen

1617
01:13:19,093 --> 01:13:21,732
Speaker 21: and they Eddie Rayner came around with Tim Finn to

1618
01:13:21,812 --> 01:13:23,612
Speaker 21: my parents' price and they sat on the couch and

1619
01:13:23,692 --> 01:13:26,372
Speaker 21: they said, Paul, we're just about they go to England.

1620
01:13:26,933 --> 01:13:29,852
Speaker 21: Because I'd played with Eddie Rayner in another band, in

1621
01:13:29,933 --> 01:13:32,213
Speaker 21: a pub band and orphan, and so Eddie when they

1622
01:13:32,293 --> 01:13:35,452
Speaker 21: needed a drummer, Eddie thought of me, and so they said, Paul,

1623
01:13:36,093 --> 01:13:38,692
Speaker 21: do you want to join the band? We need a

1624
01:13:38,772 --> 01:13:40,492
Speaker 21: drummer and we're off to England. And I was too

1625
01:13:40,532 --> 01:13:43,532
Speaker 21: scared to go. I just thought yeah. I thought about

1626
01:13:43,532 --> 01:13:45,253
Speaker 21: it for like a day or two and then I

1627
01:13:45,333 --> 01:13:47,492
Speaker 21: said no, I can't make the move. So there was

1628
01:13:47,532 --> 01:13:49,412
Speaker 21: one time when I there was just too much of

1629
01:13:49,492 --> 01:13:51,412
Speaker 21: elite to actually go to England. You know, I was

1630
01:13:51,492 --> 01:13:56,372
Speaker 21: only eighteen, but yeah, yeah, no, definitely did. My advice

1631
01:13:56,452 --> 01:13:59,933
Speaker 21: to young people use that resilience and you've got your

1632
01:13:59,973 --> 01:14:03,173
Speaker 21: physical peak and if it means leaving town. It's going

1633
01:14:03,253 --> 01:14:06,133
Speaker 21: to be exciting and you'll meet new people and you'll

1634
01:14:06,213 --> 01:14:10,132
Speaker 21: create relationships, relationships which will pay off in the future.

1635
01:14:11,333 --> 01:14:15,652
Speaker 3: So you Paul Dunning him, Yeah, ah, what a great

1636
01:14:15,692 --> 01:14:16,293
Speaker 3: New Zealander.

1637
01:14:16,572 --> 01:14:16,893
Speaker 10: That's me.

1638
01:14:17,612 --> 01:14:20,293
Speaker 3: Good on you. You've loved a life. Yeah, we'll think.

1639
01:14:20,412 --> 01:14:22,372
Speaker 21: Yeah, it's funny when you look back at the time.

1640
01:14:22,452 --> 01:14:27,533
Speaker 21: Of course, it's all just chance taking and you know, adventure.

1641
01:14:27,652 --> 01:14:29,133
Speaker 21: But then you look back and you see there was

1642
01:14:29,133 --> 01:14:30,692
Speaker 21: atual a bit of a pattern there, you know, because

1643
01:14:30,692 --> 01:14:33,532
Speaker 21: you're networking and you and you realize, oh yeah, they

1644
01:14:33,612 --> 01:14:35,213
Speaker 21: went into that, and they went into that, and so

1645
01:14:35,612 --> 01:14:37,293
Speaker 21: it all makes sense when you look back.

1646
01:14:37,772 --> 01:14:37,972
Speaker 11: Wow.

1647
01:14:38,173 --> 01:14:41,293
Speaker 2: So good to talk to you, and congratulations and everything,

1648
01:14:41,333 --> 01:14:42,253
Speaker 2: and thank you so much for calling.

1649
01:14:42,333 --> 01:14:43,572
Speaker 3: Really a great show.

1650
01:14:43,812 --> 01:14:44,892
Speaker 21: I'll keep listening, Okay.

1651
01:14:45,893 --> 01:14:47,372
Speaker 3: I want a message to young people.

1652
01:14:47,732 --> 01:14:49,812
Speaker 4: Take every opportunity and you might play drums for my

1653
01:14:49,973 --> 01:14:51,812
Speaker 4: sex or indeed split ends as well.

1654
01:14:51,933 --> 01:14:54,852
Speaker 3: Dunning them. Wow, incredible. Now that Blue Day song. I

1655
01:14:55,973 --> 01:14:57,932
Speaker 3: don't understand why we don't celebrate that song more.

1656
01:14:57,933 --> 01:15:00,372
Speaker 2: I mean we do, you know, obviously, because my sex

1657
01:15:00,452 --> 01:15:04,812
Speaker 2: you know, computer games great band obviously, but that songs

1658
01:15:04,973 --> 01:15:05,572
Speaker 2: very very good.

1659
01:15:05,652 --> 01:15:06,973
Speaker 3: The people that listen to the show Man.

1660
01:15:07,093 --> 01:15:10,772
Speaker 4: Love it right, it is nine minutes to three back

1661
01:15:10,893 --> 01:15:13,053
Speaker 4: very surely you're listening to Matton Tyler.

1662
01:15:12,893 --> 01:15:17,933
Speaker 3: People, graffiti, crimes, Fantastic Man, the issues that affect you and.

1663
01:15:18,053 --> 01:15:20,133
Speaker 1: A bit of fun along the way. Matt Heath and

1664
01:15:20,253 --> 01:15:22,732
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk.

1665
01:15:22,572 --> 01:15:25,013
Speaker 3: Z ed B News Talk zed B.

1666
01:15:25,812 --> 01:15:29,173
Speaker 4: We are carrying on our discussion about the first jobs

1667
01:15:29,253 --> 01:15:31,812
Speaker 4: that you had, first full time jobs, whether it was

1668
01:15:31,853 --> 01:15:34,093
Speaker 4: hard yaker, what did you learn from that first job,

1669
01:15:34,133 --> 01:15:35,812
Speaker 4: and whether you had to leave your hometown for it.

1670
01:15:36,173 --> 01:15:37,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, we're going to have to give you

1671
01:15:37,572 --> 01:15:40,293
Speaker 2: a trigger warning like TV wondered the other night around

1672
01:15:41,452 --> 01:15:42,253
Speaker 2: meat processing.

1673
01:15:43,532 --> 01:15:45,093
Speaker 3: Bob, are your first job?

1674
01:15:47,173 --> 01:15:50,293
Speaker 26: Yes, yes, I started the freezom works when I left school.

1675
01:15:50,652 --> 01:15:53,333
Speaker 26: I got eighty dollars a week, and then at the

1676
01:15:53,452 --> 01:15:55,772
Speaker 26: further down the track I started my apprenticeship. I went

1677
01:15:55,853 --> 01:15:58,973
Speaker 26: down to twenty dollars a week. All right, at the

1678
01:15:59,093 --> 01:16:01,093
Speaker 26: end of the day, I ended up being better off.

1679
01:16:01,772 --> 01:16:04,492
Speaker 26: So I gave up a lot of money for a pittance.

1680
01:16:04,772 --> 01:16:07,013
Speaker 26: But at the end of the day, no one could say, well,

1681
01:16:07,053 --> 01:16:09,253
Speaker 26: this is your minimum wage. That was ever going to

1682
01:16:09,293 --> 01:16:12,013
Speaker 26: happen because I was in a trade him. So I

1683
01:16:12,173 --> 01:16:13,133
Speaker 26: demanded what I wanted.

1684
01:16:13,532 --> 01:16:15,333
Speaker 3: And have you stayed in the Did you stay in

1685
01:16:15,372 --> 01:16:17,452
Speaker 3: the freezing works industry very long? Bob?

1686
01:16:18,933 --> 01:16:24,572
Speaker 26: I was there for seven months until my apprenticeship started.

1687
01:16:25,173 --> 01:16:27,852
Speaker 3: Right, and then after the apprenticeship did you stay in

1688
01:16:27,933 --> 01:16:28,372
Speaker 3: that career?

1689
01:16:30,612 --> 01:16:31,692
Speaker 11: I did until my.

1690
01:16:31,732 --> 01:16:33,612
Speaker 26: Wife died, and then it was a little bit hard

1691
01:16:33,612 --> 01:16:36,532
Speaker 26: to stay in engineering. So then I am lover further

1692
01:16:36,572 --> 01:16:38,213
Speaker 26: down the track, I went into carpentry, and I did

1693
01:16:38,213 --> 01:16:40,812
Speaker 26: an apprenticeship in carpentry, which I'm still doing now.

1694
01:16:41,933 --> 01:16:44,253
Speaker 3: And so with you with your job, Bob, did you

1695
01:16:44,333 --> 01:16:46,652
Speaker 3: have to leave town, leave your hometown to go to

1696
01:16:46,772 --> 01:16:48,412
Speaker 3: the job and the freezing works?

1697
01:16:49,812 --> 01:16:49,852
Speaker 19: No?

1698
01:16:50,173 --> 01:16:50,852
Speaker 11: No, it was sort of.

1699
01:16:51,572 --> 01:16:52,892
Speaker 26: I used to catch the train.

1700
01:16:53,452 --> 01:16:57,333
Speaker 3: Right all right, okay again, but then further.

1701
01:16:57,173 --> 01:16:59,693
Speaker 26: Down the track where once I had done my apprenticeship,

1702
01:16:59,732 --> 01:17:02,612
Speaker 26: then I ended up leaving town because I made a

1703
01:17:02,692 --> 01:17:04,772
Speaker 26: female that ended up getting married to and of course

1704
01:17:04,812 --> 01:17:05,692
Speaker 26: the yeah, then.

1705
01:17:06,093 --> 01:17:07,812
Speaker 2: It works, Yeah, yeah, that's the whole point of it.

1706
01:17:08,333 --> 01:17:10,812
Speaker 2: You want to do that's you want to start a job? Yep,

1707
01:17:11,412 --> 01:17:13,652
Speaker 2: maybe in another town, maybe not, but it's at the

1708
01:17:13,652 --> 01:17:14,372
Speaker 2: bottom of the rung.

1709
01:17:14,853 --> 01:17:17,972
Speaker 3: It's hard work. It builds character. Find a nice lady

1710
01:17:18,133 --> 01:17:19,932
Speaker 3: or a man for that matter. Yep, sit it down

1711
01:17:20,013 --> 01:17:21,892
Speaker 3: and you meet a partner, Yeah, and then you start

1712
01:17:21,933 --> 01:17:24,253
Speaker 3: a life. That's the key, we dream right there. Yeah.

1713
01:17:24,452 --> 01:17:26,812
Speaker 3: The struggle is the point, it's not the problem. Yeah.

1714
01:17:27,053 --> 01:17:30,772
Speaker 2: And resilience is born from struggle, as they say, Yeah,

1715
01:17:30,812 --> 01:17:32,812
Speaker 2: I think that's the whole point of this conversation, right, Yeah,

1716
01:17:33,253 --> 01:17:36,093
Speaker 2: it's the crapness of our first jobs that harden us

1717
01:17:36,173 --> 01:17:38,052
Speaker 2: up to find something better exactly.

1718
01:17:38,333 --> 01:17:41,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you might and your exactly.

1719
01:17:42,093 --> 01:17:45,293
Speaker 4: It's a nice bonus, great discussion. Thank you very much

1720
01:17:45,372 --> 01:17:48,572
Speaker 4: to everyone who phoned and called on that. Really enjoyed

1721
01:17:48,612 --> 01:17:51,133
Speaker 4: that two hours. Goodness, gracious, where does the time go

1722
01:17:51,293 --> 01:17:55,853
Speaker 4: when you're having fun new sport and weather is fast approaching?

1723
01:17:56,893 --> 01:17:59,692
Speaker 4: Great to have your company is always on this Wednesday afternoon.

1724
01:17:59,772 --> 01:18:01,652
Speaker 4: Hope you're having a great day. By the way, and

1725
01:18:01,772 --> 01:18:03,932
Speaker 4: if you haven't heard it, just repeating that news from

1726
01:18:03,973 --> 01:18:07,293
Speaker 4: the Reserve Bank they have cut the ocr by fifty

1727
01:18:07,412 --> 01:18:09,812
Speaker 4: basis points. That is a big one and so there's

1728
01:18:09,812 --> 01:18:12,932
Speaker 4: a bit of excitement to many quarters about that cut.

1729
01:18:13,053 --> 01:18:15,813
Speaker 4: So there'll be more on that as the afternoon progresses.

1730
01:18:16,133 --> 01:18:18,253
Speaker 4: Stay right here, we'll be back very surely.

1731
01:18:21,053 --> 01:18:25,372
Speaker 1: Your new home for insateful and entertaining Talk. It's Mattie

1732
01:18:25,612 --> 01:18:28,932
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk.

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01:18:28,812 --> 01:18:31,892
Speaker 3: Sebby afternoon to you. Welcome back.

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01:18:31,973 --> 01:18:35,053
Speaker 4: It is six pass three, the final hour for us

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01:18:35,093 --> 01:18:37,973
Speaker 4: on a Wednesday afternoon. It's going to be into an

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01:18:37,973 --> 01:18:42,372
Speaker 4: interesting chat. So a UK startup has designed a new toilet.

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01:18:42,973 --> 01:18:45,812
Speaker 4: This toilet has a thirteen degree Ford tilt, so it

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01:18:45,933 --> 01:18:47,053
Speaker 4: makes it It.

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01:18:47,133 --> 01:18:49,572
Speaker 3: Is crazy, isn't it. But it's a great picture. It

1740
01:18:49,812 --> 01:18:51,772
Speaker 3: is a great picture. Look it up if you can

1741
01:18:51,933 --> 01:18:54,612
Speaker 3: so a thirteen degree Ford tilt, yes, Tyler.

1742
01:18:54,532 --> 01:18:57,732
Speaker 4: Yes, and that makes it so uncomfortable to sit on that.

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01:18:57,973 --> 01:19:00,692
Speaker 4: They say workers won't want to stay longer than five minutes.

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01:19:01,492 --> 01:19:06,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's about productivity because I don't know if

1745
01:19:06,133 --> 01:19:08,652
Speaker 2: you've ever done this, Tyler or listeners now one one

1746
01:19:08,732 --> 01:19:12,253
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two nine two. Some

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01:19:12,692 --> 01:19:15,652
Speaker 2: workers will nip off to the bathroom and just sit

1748
01:19:15,732 --> 01:19:19,173
Speaker 2: there and do nothing when they're on your on the clock.

1749
01:19:19,333 --> 01:19:21,053
Speaker 2: It's a bit bat and like I've read this out

1750
01:19:21,492 --> 01:19:24,093
Speaker 2: before today, but it's the text we got through from Josh.

1751
01:19:24,612 --> 01:19:26,972
Speaker 2: I have an employee that uses the portloo two times

1752
01:19:27,013 --> 01:19:30,173
Speaker 2: each day for about fifteen minutes. That's thirty minutes times

1753
01:19:30,253 --> 01:19:32,452
Speaker 2: five days, that's two point five hours a week. Times

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01:19:32,492 --> 01:19:35,532
Speaker 2: fifty weeks per year, that's one hundred and twenty five

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01:19:35,612 --> 01:19:38,892
Speaker 2: hours a year, or just over three weeks of constant

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01:19:38,933 --> 01:19:39,452
Speaker 2: potty time.

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01:19:40,173 --> 01:19:42,133
Speaker 3: I know, I'm a dirt bag for working that out.

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01:19:42,692 --> 01:19:43,932
Speaker 3: Still cheers Josh.

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01:19:44,133 --> 01:19:46,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so if Josh employed this situation with

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01:19:47,013 --> 01:19:49,973
Speaker 2: the thirteen degree angle, I mean, no one's going to

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01:19:50,013 --> 01:19:53,253
Speaker 2: be spending one hundred and twenty five hours a year

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01:19:53,812 --> 01:19:55,812
Speaker 2: at sitting on a thirteen degree angle, are they.

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01:19:55,893 --> 01:19:58,293
Speaker 3: Josh will be a top cup customer for this company.

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01:19:58,492 --> 01:20:00,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I say, when you go

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01:20:00,692 --> 01:20:04,532
Speaker 2: to the UK and and bus stops, the benches are

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01:20:04,612 --> 01:20:06,812
Speaker 2: such that you can't that you know, homeless people can't

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01:20:06,812 --> 01:20:07,253
Speaker 2: sleep on them.

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01:20:07,372 --> 01:20:07,532
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:20:07,612 --> 01:20:10,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just full up with people sleeping on them.

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01:20:10,692 --> 01:20:10,812
Speaker 5: Right.

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01:20:11,412 --> 01:20:14,093
Speaker 4: So they've already pitched it to officers, train stations as

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01:20:14,133 --> 01:20:17,053
Speaker 4: you mentioned in shopping centers, and the company reckons it

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01:20:17,133 --> 01:20:21,012
Speaker 4: could save billions and lost work hours. But I don't

1774
01:20:21,053 --> 01:20:22,253
Speaker 4: know is this a step too far?

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01:20:22,412 --> 01:20:23,053
Speaker 3: No doubt about it.

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01:20:23,093 --> 01:20:25,053
Speaker 4: There's a lot of people who waste a lot of

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01:20:25,133 --> 01:20:27,333
Speaker 4: time on a toilet because you've got a phone, You've

1778
01:20:27,333 --> 01:20:30,972
Speaker 4: got the world in your pocket. And wordle for example,

1779
01:20:31,372 --> 01:20:34,572
Speaker 4: very very addictive and hand up. I've been known to

1780
01:20:34,732 --> 01:20:37,973
Speaker 4: sneak into the toilet to just have a wee bit

1781
01:20:38,013 --> 01:20:40,053
Speaker 4: of a go at whirdle or the mini crossword that

1782
01:20:40,093 --> 01:20:43,093
Speaker 4: you got me into on my dime in your time.

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01:20:43,333 --> 01:20:44,973
Speaker 4: But the thing is with this job, I've only got

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01:20:45,013 --> 01:20:46,772
Speaker 4: five minutes anyway, So it doesn't matter if it's tilted

1785
01:20:46,853 --> 01:20:48,452
Speaker 4: or not. I've got to get back here. You know,

1786
01:20:48,532 --> 01:20:49,772
Speaker 4: We've got to radio sha and.

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01:20:50,253 --> 01:20:52,492
Speaker 2: As has been litigated across most of the shows on

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01:20:52,732 --> 01:20:56,452
Speaker 2: news talk Z'B. The bathrooms are about two hundred and

1789
01:20:56,492 --> 01:20:59,133
Speaker 2: fifty meters miles away. That's where I get my steps

1790
01:20:59,173 --> 01:20:59,692
Speaker 2: in every day.

1791
01:20:59,652 --> 01:21:01,293
Speaker 3: Going to the bathroom. It's good workout.

1792
01:21:01,333 --> 01:21:05,293
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't believe that my cost came hasn't

1793
01:21:05,492 --> 01:21:07,532
Speaker 2: thrown as and toys until they put it on suite

1794
01:21:07,572 --> 01:21:09,293
Speaker 2: in here for us. Yeah, there was a lot of

1795
01:21:09,333 --> 01:21:12,612
Speaker 2: talk about that, but yeah, you know it wasn't there anyway.

1796
01:21:12,612 --> 01:21:13,213
Speaker 2: That's another issue.

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01:21:13,253 --> 01:21:15,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's another issue where we'll get the urine or

1798
01:21:15,013 --> 01:21:15,692
Speaker 3: win here one day.

1799
01:21:16,173 --> 01:21:18,652
Speaker 2: So you know this this text here says toilet time

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01:21:18,732 --> 01:21:21,452
Speaker 2: is sacred, a sanctuary, the last best in of Western freedoms.

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01:21:21,973 --> 01:21:23,772
Speaker 2: I knew they were coming for my toilet times?

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01:21:23,812 --> 01:21:24,333
Speaker 5: This is text?

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01:21:25,612 --> 01:21:26,093
Speaker 3: Agree with that?

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01:21:26,293 --> 01:21:29,412
Speaker 2: So is that a problem for you as an employer

1805
01:21:29,612 --> 01:21:31,732
Speaker 2: because it does seem a little bit invasive. And I've

1806
01:21:31,732 --> 01:21:34,532
Speaker 2: got to say, Josh, going through in timing is employee

1807
01:21:34,572 --> 01:21:38,772
Speaker 2: down to the minute, does seem a little bit invasive.

1808
01:21:38,812 --> 01:21:40,013
Speaker 3: There's something a little bit odd about it.

1809
01:21:40,213 --> 01:21:44,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, but are you owed a certain amount because you know,

1810
01:21:44,652 --> 01:21:46,973
Speaker 2: you owed a certain amount of lunch breaks and you

1811
01:21:47,173 --> 01:21:50,852
Speaker 2: owed a certain amount of risk times smokos as though

1812
01:21:50,933 --> 01:21:54,372
Speaker 2: once called. Yeah, but how much toilet time are you owed?

1813
01:21:55,053 --> 01:21:59,053
Speaker 2: And if you're an employer, doesn't annoy.

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01:21:58,853 --> 01:22:01,452
Speaker 3: You that your employees are spending that much time? And

1815
01:22:01,652 --> 01:22:04,253
Speaker 3: would you consider employing a thirteen and a half degree angle?

1816
01:22:04,253 --> 01:22:05,572
Speaker 2: I mean, I can see how you can hack this.

1817
01:22:06,013 --> 01:22:07,892
Speaker 2: You just take a brick in there and you put

1818
01:22:07,893 --> 01:22:10,892
Speaker 2: it on your that toilet set up to up to flat,

1819
01:22:11,093 --> 01:22:11,572
Speaker 2: up to level.

1820
01:22:11,853 --> 01:22:14,772
Speaker 3: That is some smart thinking. Yeah, there's loopholes around this idea.

1821
01:22:14,933 --> 01:22:16,852
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I've got to say I have worked a

1822
01:22:16,933 --> 01:22:20,133
Speaker 4: job before where there was designated toilet time. So if

1823
01:22:20,213 --> 01:22:22,452
Speaker 4: you wanted to go to it was almost like a prison. Actually,

1824
01:22:22,492 --> 01:22:23,612
Speaker 4: now I think about it, if you wanted to go

1825
01:22:23,652 --> 01:22:25,652
Speaker 4: to the bathroom. You had to ask the boss and

1826
01:22:25,893 --> 01:22:27,973
Speaker 4: then the countdown started. So if you were longer than

1827
01:22:28,013 --> 01:22:29,812
Speaker 4: ten minutes, someone would come and look for you and

1828
01:22:29,853 --> 01:22:32,133
Speaker 4: say what's going on? So is that what we want

1829
01:22:32,213 --> 01:22:35,412
Speaker 4: to places up and down the country? This idea of

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01:22:35,452 --> 01:22:37,213
Speaker 4: a tilted toilet so you don't spend too long in

1831
01:22:37,293 --> 01:22:38,253
Speaker 4: the toilet love to hear from you.

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01:22:38,333 --> 01:22:40,412
Speaker 2: This texta says, I'm listening to you two clowns right

1833
01:22:40,492 --> 01:22:43,612
Speaker 2: now while on the site portaloo. Well, good on you

1834
01:22:43,732 --> 01:22:45,253
Speaker 2: can you what kind of angles that on is that

1835
01:22:47,452 --> 01:22:49,093
Speaker 2: you want to spend longer than five minutes in there?

1836
01:22:49,093 --> 01:22:50,293
Speaker 2: If you're listening to us, well, I mean a.

1837
01:22:50,293 --> 01:22:53,012
Speaker 3: Thirteen degree angle? Or just blast Tyler and I into

1838
01:22:53,093 --> 01:22:55,452
Speaker 3: the portaloo and that'll get people out just as quickly.

1839
01:22:55,933 --> 01:22:58,572
Speaker 3: Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

1840
01:22:58,612 --> 01:22:58,892
Speaker 3: to call.

1841
01:22:58,933 --> 01:23:02,372
Speaker 4: Do you worry about how much time your employees spending

1842
01:23:02,412 --> 01:23:04,893
Speaker 4: the toilet? Or as that texter said, is that the

1843
01:23:05,213 --> 01:23:07,892
Speaker 4: one century we've got left in our working world.

1844
01:23:08,412 --> 01:23:10,133
Speaker 2: Sex has worked with a guy who used to do

1845
01:23:10,492 --> 01:23:13,213
Speaker 2: little work, then go sit on the porter loose on

1846
01:23:13,372 --> 01:23:16,652
Speaker 2: work sites for twenty minutes at a time, three times

1847
01:23:16,652 --> 01:23:19,732
Speaker 2: a day. We clude on and put palettes of bricks

1848
01:23:19,772 --> 01:23:22,053
Speaker 2: in front of the door more than once. Also used

1849
01:23:22,053 --> 01:23:25,173
Speaker 2: to throw rocks down the vent to splashes. US cheers

1850
01:23:25,333 --> 01:23:28,412
Speaker 2: for that tailor. Yeah, I love that combating any way

1851
01:23:28,452 --> 01:23:28,732
Speaker 2: you can.

1852
01:23:29,093 --> 01:23:31,692
Speaker 4: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1853
01:23:31,973 --> 01:23:33,972
Speaker 4: Nine two ninety two is the text number.

1854
01:23:33,893 --> 01:23:36,933
Speaker 2: Whilst it says are you middle class twerps? Paid by

1855
01:23:36,973 --> 01:23:41,012
Speaker 2: the Employers Association? No, we played by news talks 'db Yeah, thankfully.

1856
01:23:41,133 --> 01:23:44,013
Speaker 2: If they pay that, well, I don't know the association. No,

1857
01:23:44,452 --> 01:23:47,253
Speaker 2: we're not paid by the Employers Association. Yeah, but we

1858
01:23:47,333 --> 01:23:49,572
Speaker 2: are twips. I'm not sure if we're middle class No,

1859
01:23:50,013 --> 01:23:52,972
Speaker 2: probably sort of. I'm lower lower yeah, yeah, lower middle

1860
01:23:53,013 --> 01:23:55,093
Speaker 2: classes look forward to reaching middle class. But it's some

1861
01:23:55,213 --> 01:23:57,053
Speaker 2: time to come. It is twelve past three, but we

1862
01:23:57,133 --> 01:23:57,612
Speaker 2: are twerps.

1863
01:23:58,293 --> 01:24:00,612
Speaker 4: Used talks'd be for a good afternoon to you. So

1864
01:24:00,652 --> 01:24:02,772
Speaker 4: we're talking about this UK startup. It's designed a new

1865
01:24:02,853 --> 01:24:05,933
Speaker 4: toilet with a thirteen degree forward tilt makes it so

1866
01:24:06,213 --> 01:24:08,333
Speaker 4: uncomfortable to sit on that workers don't want to stay

1867
01:24:08,572 --> 01:24:12,653
Speaker 4: longer than five minutes. It's in a bid to combat

1868
01:24:13,372 --> 01:24:16,852
Speaker 4: increasing numbers of workers, they say, who are effectively slacking

1869
01:24:16,893 --> 01:24:18,652
Speaker 4: off and using the duney as an excuse.

1870
01:24:18,933 --> 01:24:19,612
Speaker 3: Well, in New.

1871
01:24:19,652 --> 01:24:22,213
Speaker 2: Zealand, you're entitled to breaks. It's determined by your work period.

1872
01:24:22,253 --> 01:24:24,732
Speaker 2: You get a ten minute paid rest break for every

1873
01:24:24,853 --> 01:24:27,973
Speaker 2: two to four hours of work, so ten minutes over

1874
01:24:28,053 --> 01:24:31,012
Speaker 2: two to four and a thirty minute unpaid meal break

1875
01:24:31,133 --> 01:24:32,612
Speaker 2: after four hours of work.

1876
01:24:32,772 --> 01:24:33,932
Speaker 3: Yeah. For example, if.

1877
01:24:33,853 --> 01:24:36,412
Speaker 2: You're working between six and ten hours, entitles you to

1878
01:24:36,612 --> 01:24:40,452
Speaker 2: two paid rests and one unpaid meal break. So people

1879
01:24:40,532 --> 01:24:45,173
Speaker 2: try and augment that worth a bathroom break. And so

1880
01:24:46,013 --> 01:24:48,972
Speaker 2: whether you need to go or not, I mean because

1881
01:24:49,133 --> 01:24:53,452
Speaker 2: because a boss is you know, questioning about someone heading

1882
01:24:53,492 --> 01:24:55,253
Speaker 2: off to the bathroom if they need to go. If

1883
01:24:55,253 --> 01:24:56,732
Speaker 2: youve got to go, you got to go right, Yeah,

1884
01:24:57,133 --> 01:25:02,093
Speaker 2: So to most people add what would it be acceptable

1885
01:25:02,133 --> 01:25:05,213
Speaker 2: to add two to ten minute bathroom breaks in the day.

1886
01:25:05,732 --> 01:25:08,772
Speaker 2: So you get a ten minute paid rest break every

1887
01:25:08,812 --> 01:25:12,253
Speaker 2: two hours and the thirty minute unpaid meal break. But

1888
01:25:12,372 --> 01:25:14,012
Speaker 2: how many bathroom brakes are you allowed?

1889
01:25:14,572 --> 01:25:17,852
Speaker 4: I'd say at least two, maybe three. I mean then

1890
01:25:17,853 --> 01:25:19,452
Speaker 4: if you're a smoker, on top of that, then you

1891
01:25:19,532 --> 01:25:21,892
Speaker 4: get another ten minutes to go have an oak.

1892
01:25:22,053 --> 01:25:24,173
Speaker 2: And then what do you do if people are taking

1893
01:25:24,213 --> 01:25:26,612
Speaker 2: the piss taking a piss. You see what I'm saying. Yeah,

1894
01:25:27,732 --> 01:25:30,893
Speaker 2: the text says line the toilet with aluminum so you

1895
01:25:30,973 --> 01:25:33,732
Speaker 2: can't get any reception. Oh and this another text just

1896
01:25:33,772 --> 01:25:37,293
Speaker 2: came in said, I lined my toilet cubicles at my

1897
01:25:37,333 --> 01:25:39,852
Speaker 2: business with steel sheets, so there was no cell phone

1898
01:25:39,933 --> 01:25:41,532
Speaker 2: data reception.

1899
01:25:41,652 --> 01:25:43,652
Speaker 3: Toilet break durations reduced markedly.

1900
01:25:43,973 --> 01:25:46,732
Speaker 4: That is smart thinking. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten

1901
01:25:46,772 --> 01:25:49,213
Speaker 4: eighty is the number to call. Nine two ninety two

1902
01:25:49,532 --> 01:25:53,053
Speaker 4: is the text number? Ways that you slack off at work,

1903
01:25:53,173 --> 01:25:55,132
Speaker 4: or an employee or a work made or a colleague

1904
01:25:55,173 --> 01:25:56,093
Speaker 4: get slapped off at work.

1905
01:25:56,253 --> 01:25:57,013
Speaker 3: This seems a bit far.

1906
01:25:57,133 --> 01:25:59,013
Speaker 2: We need a registry of those who take phones into

1907
01:25:59,053 --> 01:26:01,492
Speaker 2: dunnies as they handle their phones all day in the

1908
01:26:01,652 --> 01:26:02,692
Speaker 2: in the public places.

1909
01:26:03,093 --> 01:26:04,532
Speaker 3: Where would you print that registry?

1910
01:26:04,652 --> 01:26:08,012
Speaker 4: That'd have to be an honesty system. Plenty of texts

1911
01:26:08,053 --> 01:26:11,772
Speaker 4: coming through on nine to nine to two CIA, guys.

1912
01:26:11,893 --> 01:26:14,572
Speaker 2: Teachers know about no toilet time can go if it's

1913
01:26:14,612 --> 01:26:16,532
Speaker 2: a class time. Can't go if it's a class time,

1914
01:26:16,692 --> 01:26:19,612
Speaker 2: as not enough teacher aids and breaks are too precious.

1915
01:26:19,652 --> 01:26:21,692
Speaker 2: By the time we leave the classroom, we lose about

1916
01:26:21,732 --> 01:26:24,772
Speaker 2: five minutes of a twenty minute break. Also, where we're

1917
01:26:24,853 --> 01:26:27,692
Speaker 2: short of time. If there is duty sports practice and

1918
01:26:27,772 --> 01:26:31,093
Speaker 2: meeting with kids or performing arts meets up. Typically we

1919
01:26:31,173 --> 01:26:33,652
Speaker 2: don't go until after school when we get home again.

1920
01:26:33,772 --> 01:26:34,293
Speaker 2: Cheers TJ.

1921
01:26:34,612 --> 01:26:39,692
Speaker 3: So teachers are just running powerful pelvic floors, clearly massive

1922
01:26:39,772 --> 01:26:41,333
Speaker 3: ladders to hold it for that long? Do they have

1923
01:26:41,452 --> 01:26:45,293
Speaker 3: powerful power? Do they have pelvic floor exercises that teachers college?

1924
01:26:45,372 --> 01:26:48,173
Speaker 3: Sounds like you're going to have to strengthen. You have

1925
01:26:48,293 --> 01:26:50,052
Speaker 3: to hold it for six hours at least.

1926
01:26:49,893 --> 01:26:52,652
Speaker 2: Because on this show, Tyler and I toddle off to

1927
01:26:52,692 --> 01:26:55,772
Speaker 2: the bathroom after every I'm hydrating heavily because I'm running

1928
01:26:55,772 --> 01:26:57,852
Speaker 2: a schedule training for this marathon. Yeah, so I'm on

1929
01:26:57,933 --> 01:26:59,013
Speaker 2: the I'm hydrating a lot.

1930
01:26:59,572 --> 01:27:02,093
Speaker 3: I count down after forty five minutes, I need to

1931
01:27:02,173 --> 01:27:05,213
Speaker 3: run to that urinal. You screamed, you sprinted. I did

1932
01:27:05,492 --> 01:27:07,852
Speaker 3: hear what's wrong with you? And I had to say

1933
01:27:07,893 --> 01:27:09,932
Speaker 3: in front of you everybody, I need to go potty.

1934
01:27:10,013 --> 01:27:12,372
Speaker 2: People thought there was a people thought there was a fire. Brad,

1935
01:27:12,452 --> 01:27:13,093
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

1936
01:27:13,933 --> 01:27:15,532
Speaker 1: Good guys, here going very good.

1937
01:27:16,253 --> 01:27:18,372
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on this key issue for kiwis.

1938
01:27:19,652 --> 01:27:21,333
Speaker 27: Yeah, well, I thought, if you're gonna, you know, if

1939
01:27:21,333 --> 01:27:23,892
Speaker 27: there's a way to defeat the thirteen degree incline.

1940
01:27:23,933 --> 01:27:29,053
Speaker 12: That would be to the reverse strad or in that way,

1941
01:27:29,093 --> 01:27:30,452
Speaker 12: you could really be there for.

1942
01:27:30,652 --> 01:27:31,572
Speaker 26: A longer time.

1943
01:27:31,893 --> 01:27:32,612
Speaker 3: Massive loophole.

1944
01:27:32,692 --> 01:27:34,572
Speaker 2: This is smart thinking, and you might because this is

1945
01:27:34,893 --> 01:27:38,452
Speaker 2: a UK startup that's selling these bathrooms. As soon as

1946
01:27:38,452 --> 01:27:41,772
Speaker 2: there are angel investors find out about this, heck, they're

1947
01:27:41,812 --> 01:27:45,293
Speaker 2: out of business. Brad, massive design floor, because of course

1948
01:27:45,333 --> 01:27:48,253
Speaker 2: you can. I had a friend, actually, Brad, I'm not

1949
01:27:48,293 --> 01:27:50,173
Speaker 2: going to say his name. I'll call him Al Parker

1950
01:27:50,173 --> 01:27:52,932
Speaker 2: and i'll call him Luke P when I was growing up,

1951
01:27:53,532 --> 01:27:55,772
Speaker 2: and he didn't know right up until we were an

1952
01:27:55,772 --> 01:27:59,333
Speaker 2: intermediate school. They're still a friend now actually, And he

1953
01:27:59,532 --> 01:28:03,333
Speaker 2: faced the system. So he was facing the button.

1954
01:28:03,532 --> 01:28:04,372
Speaker 3: Nobody told him.

1955
01:28:06,732 --> 01:28:08,652
Speaker 2: Someone walked in and said, what are you doing, Luke?

1956
01:28:09,253 --> 01:28:15,612
Speaker 3: Al what he wrote it the wrong way? Oh that

1957
01:28:15,772 --> 01:28:17,972
Speaker 3: is too good. That is too good, Luke. If you're listening,

1958
01:28:18,013 --> 01:28:20,772
Speaker 3: I'm sorry for sharing your your your eleven year old shame.

1959
01:28:21,013 --> 01:28:22,612
Speaker 4: I'm going to have to try it now. Yeah, I

1960
01:28:22,692 --> 01:28:24,972
Speaker 4: can see the comfort levels of that could be quite high.

1961
01:28:25,532 --> 01:28:28,892
Speaker 3: Thanks for your cool, Brad. He's hacked the system. Yeah,

1962
01:28:29,213 --> 01:28:31,333
Speaker 3: love it. Oh eight hundred eighty to eighty is the

1963
01:28:31,492 --> 01:28:32,213
Speaker 3: number to call.

1964
01:28:32,213 --> 01:28:34,372
Speaker 2: James is my dad and his coworkers would place bets

1965
01:28:34,412 --> 01:28:37,293
Speaker 2: on how long a guy also called Dave. I know, Hannah,

1966
01:28:37,452 --> 01:28:39,812
Speaker 2: that was a Doven Dave. So James is the text.

1967
01:28:40,013 --> 01:28:41,852
Speaker 2: My dad and his coworkers would place bets on how

1968
01:28:41,893 --> 01:28:45,452
Speaker 2: long a guy Dave would take on the work throne.

1969
01:28:46,133 --> 01:28:48,933
Speaker 4: I think we all know people, well, maybe not in

1970
01:28:49,013 --> 01:28:51,372
Speaker 4: this office, but certainly jobs off had you know the

1971
01:28:51,933 --> 01:28:54,452
Speaker 4: workers who nip off to the lure a bit too much,

1972
01:28:54,772 --> 01:28:56,972
Speaker 4: and you know it's not a medical problem, because that's different.

1973
01:28:57,412 --> 01:28:59,892
Speaker 4: And I think do you name and shame those workers?

1974
01:28:59,933 --> 01:29:01,932
Speaker 4: If you see them running off to the urinals six

1975
01:29:02,013 --> 01:29:04,173
Speaker 4: times in a day, do you let the boss know

1976
01:29:04,213 --> 01:29:04,572
Speaker 4: they might be.

1977
01:29:04,572 --> 01:29:05,133
Speaker 3: A problem here?

1978
01:29:06,772 --> 01:29:09,013
Speaker 4: Run that past me again time if you've got a colleague, yes,

1979
01:29:09,133 --> 01:29:10,812
Speaker 4: and you know it's not a medical problem where you're

1980
01:29:10,812 --> 01:29:14,293
Speaker 4: pretty sure, and they're running off to the duney yeah,

1981
01:29:14,452 --> 01:29:17,732
Speaker 4: pretty much every half hour. Yeah, and I've gone for

1982
01:29:17,812 --> 01:29:19,213
Speaker 4: ten minutes at a time. At that point, do you

1983
01:29:19,293 --> 01:29:21,932
Speaker 4: dob them in? Do you say, hey, boss, I don't

1984
01:29:21,973 --> 01:29:26,333
Speaker 4: normally dub anybody in here, but old old Pete. He's

1985
01:29:26,372 --> 01:29:28,333
Speaker 4: buggering off every thirty minutes. He says he's got a

1986
01:29:28,333 --> 01:29:29,893
Speaker 4: problem with his bladder. But I reckon you're going to

1987
01:29:29,893 --> 01:29:31,572
Speaker 4: get a doctor's note yet, because something's going on.

1988
01:29:31,853 --> 01:29:33,812
Speaker 3: I don't think I could look at myself in the

1989
01:29:33,853 --> 01:29:35,893
Speaker 3: mirror if I'd gone to the boss to dob some

1990
01:29:36,013 --> 01:29:38,852
Speaker 3: of them for their tour that time. If you ever

1991
01:29:38,973 --> 01:29:40,893
Speaker 3: have love to hear from you e one hundred and

1992
01:29:40,893 --> 01:29:41,652
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty.

1993
01:29:41,652 --> 01:29:44,972
Speaker 2: Number the Texas says, we've had someone. We have someone

1994
01:29:45,213 --> 01:29:47,692
Speaker 2: as part of a team until two pm each day,

1995
01:29:47,973 --> 01:29:51,013
Speaker 2: but every day to ten am, when he is the

1996
01:29:51,093 --> 01:29:53,213
Speaker 2: only person on, Judy goes to the bathroom for twenty

1997
01:29:53,253 --> 01:29:55,932
Speaker 2: minutes and never asks, never checks if someone can cover,

1998
01:29:56,372 --> 01:29:59,372
Speaker 2: never goes before other staff finished, just leaves customers waiting.

1999
01:29:59,492 --> 01:30:03,253
Speaker 2: Idiot as if it continues he will lose his job,

2000
01:30:03,652 --> 01:30:06,293
Speaker 2: or because he can't think that is dangerous.

2001
01:30:06,732 --> 01:30:09,333
Speaker 4: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty eight is the number

2002
01:30:09,412 --> 01:30:11,173
Speaker 4: of calls. So how much slacking off?

2003
01:30:11,253 --> 01:30:14,692
Speaker 3: Is too much? Slacking off? And is repeated bathroom breaks

2004
01:30:14,973 --> 01:30:17,812
Speaker 3: just taking the mick. It's hard to bring it up, though,

2005
01:30:17,812 --> 01:30:20,213
Speaker 3: wasn't it, Because someone will just say, well, I've got

2006
01:30:20,253 --> 01:30:21,452
Speaker 3: a tiny bladder, what are you gonna do?

2007
01:30:21,973 --> 01:30:24,572
Speaker 4: Very true, it's an easy excuse. It is twenty one

2008
01:30:24,652 --> 01:30:25,652
Speaker 4: pars three back in a month.

2009
01:30:29,652 --> 01:30:33,732
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight eight eight

2010
01:30:33,933 --> 01:30:35,892
Speaker 1: on us Talk ZB afternoon.

2011
01:30:35,973 --> 01:30:38,333
Speaker 4: So to bring you up to speed on this topic.

2012
01:30:38,372 --> 01:30:41,012
Speaker 4: We're discussing as a UK startup designed a new toilet

2013
01:30:41,053 --> 01:30:43,652
Speaker 4: with a thirteen degree forward tilt that makes it so

2014
01:30:43,933 --> 01:30:46,133
Speaker 4: uncomfortable to sit on that workers don't want to stay

2015
01:30:46,173 --> 01:30:48,652
Speaker 4: longer than five minutes. The idea, of course, is to

2016
01:30:49,133 --> 01:30:53,173
Speaker 4: discourage extended bathroom bake breaks. They reckon it could save

2017
01:30:53,293 --> 01:30:55,132
Speaker 4: billions in lost work hours.

2018
01:30:57,412 --> 01:30:59,412
Speaker 2: George, here, we need one of those new toilets at

2019
01:30:59,412 --> 01:31:01,572
Speaker 2: our work. Got a bloke we call double O seven

2020
01:31:02,213 --> 01:31:06,053
Speaker 2: zero intelligence, zero skills, seven visits to the toilet to day.

2021
01:31:07,532 --> 01:31:08,572
Speaker 3: Oh that is so good.

2022
01:31:09,372 --> 01:31:12,013
Speaker 2: This toilet has given me a great business idea. A

2023
01:31:12,093 --> 01:31:14,812
Speaker 2: toilet in the mold of a mechanical bull bit of

2024
01:31:14,893 --> 01:31:17,692
Speaker 2: fun where you're doing your business, then throw you off.

2025
01:31:17,572 --> 01:31:17,932
Speaker 4: At the end.

2026
01:31:18,293 --> 01:31:20,852
Speaker 2: I mean it's risky, very risky. I mean it's the

2027
01:31:20,893 --> 01:31:25,053
Speaker 2: bathroom really about having fun. So it's like, is there

2028
01:31:25,093 --> 01:31:26,972
Speaker 2: a need to make going to the bathroom more fun?

2029
01:31:27,133 --> 01:31:27,333
Speaker 11: Yeah?

2030
01:31:27,532 --> 01:31:29,013
Speaker 4: Because that kind of goes the other way, doesn't it.

2031
01:31:29,053 --> 01:31:30,973
Speaker 4: If there's a mechanical ball toilet. I'm going to be

2032
01:31:31,053 --> 01:31:31,892
Speaker 4: going even more times.

2033
01:31:32,133 --> 01:31:37,532
Speaker 2: It's risky as risky riding the mechanical bowl. I can

2034
01:31:37,572 --> 01:31:39,772
Speaker 2: see how that could call pros' But you know, like

2035
01:31:40,572 --> 01:31:42,652
Speaker 2: these people that we're talking about here in the UK,

2036
01:31:42,853 --> 01:31:45,612
Speaker 2: they've they've got money for their startup with the thirteen

2037
01:31:45,652 --> 01:31:50,013
Speaker 2: percent angled toilet for work productivity. So maybe you're your

2038
01:31:50,053 --> 01:31:51,372
Speaker 2: mechanical ball toilet could.

2039
01:31:51,253 --> 01:31:53,053
Speaker 4: Go, could catch on oh, one hundred and eighty ten

2040
01:31:53,093 --> 01:31:56,372
Speaker 4: eighty's number to call Peter, Welcome to the show there.

2041
01:31:56,412 --> 01:31:58,213
Speaker 27: You're going very good.

2042
01:31:59,532 --> 01:32:02,652
Speaker 25: About forty years ago I was doing an apprenticeship with

2043
01:32:02,812 --> 01:32:06,732
Speaker 25: a government department that is no more. Probably a good

2044
01:32:06,812 --> 01:32:10,852
Speaker 25: reason for that. And there's probably about one hundred staff here,

2045
01:32:11,652 --> 01:32:14,412
Speaker 25: and the toilets are always a good place to go

2046
01:32:14,612 --> 01:32:17,932
Speaker 25: to hide. For a while it was also known as

2047
01:32:17,973 --> 01:32:21,932
Speaker 25: the reading room. It was always something to read there.

2048
01:32:23,333 --> 01:32:28,293
Speaker 25: But a funny story, I remember one other chap went

2049
01:32:28,333 --> 01:32:31,093
Speaker 25: to the bathroom about four o'clock. We not got four

2050
01:32:31,093 --> 01:32:33,173
Speaker 25: point thirty. You know, people were lining up at the

2051
01:32:34,293 --> 01:32:37,492
Speaker 25: clock clock by twenty past four because you're allowed to.

2052
01:32:38,372 --> 01:32:40,572
Speaker 25: But anyway, this whole chap had gone to the lower

2053
01:32:40,572 --> 01:32:46,372
Speaker 25: about four o'clock and fell asleep. An he worked up

2054
01:32:46,372 --> 01:32:49,772
Speaker 25: and he thought, seeing it's dark here, and it was

2055
01:32:49,812 --> 01:32:53,253
Speaker 25: about eight point thirty at night and he was one there.

2056
01:32:55,692 --> 01:32:57,173
Speaker 3: And then did he did he clock out and get

2057
01:32:57,213 --> 01:33:00,612
Speaker 3: the extra hours or it's some good overtime more than like,

2058
01:33:02,372 --> 01:33:03,213
Speaker 3: that's a great story.

2059
01:33:04,173 --> 01:33:05,133
Speaker 25: I just thought i'd see you that.

2060
01:33:05,452 --> 01:33:06,333
Speaker 28: You can you sing?

2061
01:33:06,532 --> 01:33:06,692
Speaker 11: Sing?

2062
01:33:06,732 --> 01:33:09,652
Speaker 3: It's the name of the department is defunct? Can you

2063
01:33:09,973 --> 01:33:11,692
Speaker 3: share it with it?

2064
01:33:11,853 --> 01:33:13,013
Speaker 14: Was the mow.

2065
01:33:14,933 --> 01:33:15,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, yeah.

2066
01:33:17,732 --> 01:33:20,892
Speaker 25: There were enough engineers and staff there that they would

2067
01:33:20,893 --> 01:33:23,293
Speaker 25: have designed something to prop the toilet seed after the

2068
01:33:23,412 --> 01:33:24,892
Speaker 25: correct dangle, no problem.

2069
01:33:25,053 --> 01:33:27,812
Speaker 2: I was watching on the New Zealand, the New Zealand Archives, Peter,

2070
01:33:27,893 --> 01:33:29,732
Speaker 2: a television show called Gliding on.

2071
01:33:30,013 --> 01:33:31,053
Speaker 3: Did you ever watch that show?

2072
01:33:31,372 --> 01:33:31,572
Speaker 26: Yes?

2073
01:33:31,973 --> 01:33:35,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was set in the government department. I swear

2074
01:33:35,372 --> 01:33:38,732
Speaker 2: that was, you know the office, you know, Ricky Gervas's office.

2075
01:33:39,053 --> 01:33:41,732
Speaker 2: Years in advance. I think New Zealand invented the office.

2076
01:33:41,853 --> 01:33:48,093
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, gliding or chip it out? Thank you,

2077
01:33:48,372 --> 01:33:50,732
Speaker 3: thank you, Peter, You have a good day. Great story.

2078
01:33:50,772 --> 01:33:52,772
Speaker 4: Oh wait, undred eighty, ten eighty the number of cour

2079
01:33:52,812 --> 01:33:54,972
Speaker 4: plenty of texts coming through a nine two ninety two.

2080
01:33:55,293 --> 01:33:57,452
Speaker 2: Surely the answer is that they hand their phones in

2081
01:33:57,532 --> 01:34:00,132
Speaker 2: before they go to the toilet? Phones are the problems?

2082
01:34:00,372 --> 01:34:00,812
Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't know.

2083
01:34:00,893 --> 01:34:03,732
Speaker 3: Can you run a workplace where you bring in a role?

2084
01:34:03,812 --> 01:34:04,253
Speaker 3: I don't know this.

2085
01:34:05,053 --> 01:34:07,772
Speaker 2: It's just too much attention. And look, people will criticize

2086
01:34:07,853 --> 01:34:10,893
Speaker 2: us and they are for putting too much attension on

2087
01:34:10,973 --> 01:34:11,893
Speaker 2: the bathroom.

2088
01:34:11,692 --> 01:34:14,452
Speaker 3: For our showair. But if you're a boss and you go.

2089
01:34:15,093 --> 01:34:17,772
Speaker 2: Okay, new rule, you have to hand in your phones

2090
01:34:17,812 --> 01:34:20,572
Speaker 2: before you go to the bathroom. I mean, what does

2091
01:34:20,652 --> 01:34:22,772
Speaker 2: that do for morale in a workplace when you treat

2092
01:34:22,853 --> 01:34:25,253
Speaker 2: them like five year olds? But then again, what do

2093
01:34:25,333 --> 01:34:27,333
Speaker 2: you do if someone's going in there for twenty five minutes?

2094
01:34:27,532 --> 01:34:29,732
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, haven't we bought this on ourselves a little bit?

2095
01:34:29,772 --> 01:34:32,532
Speaker 4: I mean Peter mentioned there that he called their toilet

2096
01:34:32,572 --> 01:34:37,093
Speaker 4: the library. That how many how many places like I've

2097
01:34:37,133 --> 01:34:39,173
Speaker 4: got it at my home, right, I've got magazines just

2098
01:34:39,253 --> 01:34:42,812
Speaker 4: beside the toilet, always kind of magazines whatever you want

2099
01:34:43,053 --> 01:34:46,013
Speaker 4: if you want not those kind of magazines at a

2100
01:34:46,053 --> 01:34:46,652
Speaker 4: house and garden.

2101
01:34:47,492 --> 01:34:48,173
Speaker 3: What else have I got?

2102
01:34:49,133 --> 01:34:52,492
Speaker 4: Yeah, whatever you're into. But most times around New Zealand,

2103
01:34:52,532 --> 01:34:55,092
Speaker 4: I would argue there is reading material in the bathroom.

2104
01:34:55,173 --> 01:34:57,532
Speaker 4: It's kind of it's a weird thing that we do

2105
01:34:57,652 --> 01:34:59,612
Speaker 4: in New Zealand, and I think it's probably not just

2106
01:34:59,772 --> 01:35:01,893
Speaker 4: New Zealand that does that. So we've bought it on

2107
01:35:01,973 --> 01:35:04,812
Speaker 4: ourselves that we can't even go to the loo and

2108
01:35:04,933 --> 01:35:08,852
Speaker 4: do our business without needing some sort of distraction while

2109
01:35:08,893 --> 01:35:09,412
Speaker 4: we're in there.

2110
01:35:09,973 --> 01:35:10,173
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2111
01:35:10,333 --> 01:35:13,772
Speaker 2: Well do you remember those those the bathroom Readers? Yeah,

2112
01:35:14,372 --> 01:35:16,412
Speaker 2: that those those books, the bathroom Readers. I mean they've

2113
01:35:16,412 --> 01:35:18,492
Speaker 2: been wiped out of business by the part of the

2114
01:35:18,572 --> 01:35:21,732
Speaker 2: pun by the by the phone, haven't they.

2115
01:35:21,893 --> 01:35:25,213
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, very true. Oh, one hundred and eighteen eighty

2116
01:35:25,412 --> 01:35:28,892
Speaker 4: is the number to call. Headlines coming up, but we'll

2117
01:35:28,933 --> 01:35:29,812
Speaker 4: go to Ken first.

2118
01:35:30,933 --> 01:35:31,053
Speaker 5: Ken.

2119
01:35:32,013 --> 01:35:35,013
Speaker 20: Oh yeah, yeah, great show. Love listening to you.

2120
01:35:35,213 --> 01:35:35,852
Speaker 3: Oh thanks, Kim.

2121
01:35:37,492 --> 01:35:40,333
Speaker 20: But one thing I do think is that I do

2122
01:35:40,572 --> 01:35:44,573
Speaker 20: know there's an awful lot of people who suffer from constipation.

2123
01:35:45,772 --> 01:35:48,772
Speaker 3: Yes, it's true, so they're likely to.

2124
01:35:48,812 --> 01:35:51,732
Speaker 20: Be in there for fifteen minutes. Yeah, but they need

2125
01:35:51,853 --> 01:35:55,133
Speaker 20: to tell their employer that they have that problem. Then

2126
01:35:55,173 --> 01:35:58,452
Speaker 20: the employer won't sort of get annoyse so much.

2127
01:35:58,812 --> 01:35:58,972
Speaker 11: Yeah.

2128
01:35:58,973 --> 01:36:00,612
Speaker 2: I mean see that, That's kind of my point I

2129
01:36:00,652 --> 01:36:03,572
Speaker 2: was saying before. As a as an employer, you it's

2130
01:36:03,612 --> 01:36:07,572
Speaker 2: not really an area you can legislate because you're absolutely right, King,

2131
01:36:07,973 --> 01:36:10,972
Speaker 2: there are a lot of people with ibs and various

2132
01:36:10,973 --> 01:36:12,412
Speaker 2: situations out there in the community.

2133
01:36:12,492 --> 01:36:12,852
Speaker 5: That's true.

2134
01:36:13,013 --> 01:36:17,492
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, and there's no questions ask policy.

2135
01:36:17,532 --> 01:36:19,333
Speaker 4: Really if someone comes to you there is.

2136
01:36:19,333 --> 01:36:21,492
Speaker 2: It to take your work in their type situation. I

2137
01:36:21,532 --> 01:36:24,093
Speaker 2: mean it's hard on site, isn't it. It's hard to

2138
01:36:24,133 --> 01:36:25,572
Speaker 2: go to the outside to do it. But if you're

2139
01:36:25,572 --> 01:36:28,652
Speaker 2: an office worker, I mean we do we need to have,

2140
01:36:29,133 --> 01:36:30,732
Speaker 2: you know, like on a plane where.

2141
01:36:31,492 --> 01:36:35,133
Speaker 4: You're pulled down the table, a little tray in there

2142
01:36:35,133 --> 01:36:36,692
Speaker 4: that you can do some work on your laptop.

2143
01:36:37,333 --> 01:36:38,492
Speaker 3: It would be activity.

2144
01:36:38,812 --> 01:36:39,012
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2145
01:36:39,372 --> 01:36:42,933
Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for your cool King, Yeah, yep. Constipation is

2146
01:36:42,973 --> 01:36:44,652
Speaker 3: a real issue. It's a massive issue. Not for you

2147
01:36:44,732 --> 01:36:47,572
Speaker 3: though you're you're heavily into the Kiwi fruit Kiwi fruit

2148
01:36:47,973 --> 01:36:53,053
Speaker 3: prunes brand. It's not a problem for your mate. What's

2149
01:36:53,093 --> 01:36:56,133
Speaker 3: that pickle sauer kraut sour krat Yeah, good, good for

2150
01:36:56,213 --> 01:36:58,892
Speaker 3: the bowels. Get it in you get it? Yeah. Oh, eight,

2151
01:36:58,893 --> 01:37:01,333
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number of calls.

2152
01:37:01,333 --> 01:37:05,133
Speaker 4: So we're talking about slack slacking off at work and

2153
01:37:05,692 --> 01:37:08,692
Speaker 4: uh to our people in your workplace using the taller

2154
01:37:08,772 --> 01:37:10,932
Speaker 4: as an excuse to get an extra cheeky break.

2155
01:37:11,093 --> 01:37:13,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, just so you know, people texting through

2156
01:37:13,333 --> 01:37:15,852
Speaker 2: on nine two nine two hassling us for talking about this.

2157
01:37:16,173 --> 01:37:18,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're only encouraging us. Yeah, yeah, we love it.

2158
01:37:18,372 --> 01:37:19,532
Speaker 3: It's past three.

2159
01:37:21,933 --> 01:37:25,532
Speaker 16: Us talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

2160
01:37:25,612 --> 01:37:28,812
Speaker 16: no trouble with a blue bubble. The Reserve Bank slash

2161
01:37:28,933 --> 01:37:32,333
Speaker 16: the official cash rate fifty basis points to two point

2162
01:37:32,452 --> 01:37:35,612
Speaker 16: five percent. It says it expects inflation to return to

2163
01:37:35,772 --> 01:37:39,772
Speaker 16: normal by mid next year. Factors included our fall and GDP,

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Raylen. So we've been talking about

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Speaker 4: this company in the UK. They've designed a special toilet.

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Speaker 4: It's slanted on a thirteen degree Ford tilt, so it

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01:38:42,532 --> 01:38:44,933
Speaker 4: makes it so uncomfortable that people don't want to or

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01:38:45,133 --> 01:38:47,173
Speaker 4: can't spend more than five minutes doing their business.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to be the next Elon Musk.

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01:38:49,253 --> 01:38:52,492
Speaker 2: I don't think they're making five hundred billion out of

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Speaker 2: this idea. No, no, especially since that that hack that

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01:38:55,532 --> 01:38:59,172
Speaker 2: we heard about before. You just face the cistern, Junior,

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01:38:59,293 --> 01:39:02,173
Speaker 2: your work wants to start documenting your toilet brakes.

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01:39:03,213 --> 01:39:06,492
Speaker 5: Yareh one hundred percent? It just started today. Funny enough,

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01:39:06,612 --> 01:39:09,372
Speaker 5: I finished break and then I jump on and start listening,

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01:39:10,013 --> 01:39:12,213
Speaker 5: and you sure talking about what we were talking about

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01:39:12,253 --> 01:39:15,692
Speaker 5: tool box this morning. But yeah, we have to write

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01:39:15,692 --> 01:39:17,652
Speaker 5: down the time that we go to toilet and then

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Speaker 5: the time we arrived. My question was was what is

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01:39:22,412 --> 01:39:25,772
Speaker 5: the actual law behind going to the toilet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just trying to get to the bottom of

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01:39:28,812 --> 01:39:31,612
Speaker 2: that because this Texas says, here, guys, the purpose of

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01:39:31,692 --> 01:39:34,173
Speaker 2: breaks during the days to allow staff to take a leak.

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01:39:36,053 --> 01:39:40,333
Speaker 2: And so in New Zealand you're entitled to a ten

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Speaker 2: minute paid break every two hours. But according to this Texas,

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Speaker 2: so we should try and get old of Gareth Abden

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01:39:46,333 --> 01:39:48,492
Speaker 2: or shouldn't we from Ebden or law? Because help the

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Speaker 2: answer to.

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Speaker 3: This, because because how could you enforce that if you

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01:39:51,492 --> 01:39:52,333
Speaker 3: need to go, you need to go?

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Speaker 5: Junior, Yeah, one hundred percent. I work in the cold storage,

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Speaker 5: and I think for me personally, I worked in the

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01:39:59,213 --> 01:40:01,772
Speaker 5: coldstore for almost six seven years. I tend to go

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01:40:01,893 --> 01:40:04,452
Speaker 5: toilet more often if I'm working in the freezer we're

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01:40:04,492 --> 01:40:07,213
Speaker 5: in the chiller, other than when I work in the office.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So that's why I wanted to know what actual

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01:40:13,173 --> 01:40:15,532
Speaker 5: because I do get it that people have breaks. But

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01:40:15,692 --> 01:40:20,093
Speaker 5: then obviously, like if you go to on your break

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01:40:20,173 --> 01:40:23,173
Speaker 5: and then you kind of miss time to go to

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01:40:23,253 --> 01:40:25,293
Speaker 5: the toilet because you don't really want to go, and

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01:40:25,333 --> 01:40:27,892
Speaker 5: then you want to go after So I'm pretty sure

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01:40:28,173 --> 01:40:31,253
Speaker 5: an employee can't like, you know, hold that against you

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01:40:31,333 --> 01:40:34,692
Speaker 5: and kind of like, you know, discipline you for it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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01:40:35,933 --> 01:40:38,852
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and we'll look into the legislation hopefully as

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01:40:38,893 --> 01:40:41,213
Speaker 4: you say, make get Gareth Ednor on the show. But

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01:40:41,372 --> 01:40:43,932
Speaker 4: when you're sitting around having the toolbox talk and then

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01:40:44,452 --> 01:40:47,133
Speaker 4: the site manager said, now boys a new role.

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01:40:47,492 --> 01:40:49,852
Speaker 3: We're going to make you documents your your toilet breaks.

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Speaker 5: What was the response, Well, the thing is that, like

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01:40:54,812 --> 01:40:58,652
Speaker 5: me personally, I've just moved from Australia and like, no

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01:40:58,933 --> 01:41:04,492
Speaker 5: way in Australia the delegates will allow that. Coming back

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01:41:04,652 --> 01:41:07,093
Speaker 5: to New Zealand, I feel like, you know, it is

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01:41:07,173 --> 01:41:09,732
Speaker 5: kind of different where the Union doesn't really step into things.

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01:41:10,213 --> 01:41:13,572
Speaker 5: And like when they said that, everyone went quiet, and

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01:41:13,732 --> 01:41:16,093
Speaker 5: like in the back of my head, I was like, oh,

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01:41:16,973 --> 01:41:18,892
Speaker 5: I wanted to say something is like no, you can't

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01:41:18,933 --> 01:41:21,893
Speaker 5: do that. Yeah, but that's because I didn't know the

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01:41:22,013 --> 01:41:25,253
Speaker 5: laws because obviously AU surely are different. I'm pretty sure

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01:41:25,293 --> 01:41:26,612
Speaker 5: they're not that far different.

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01:41:26,933 --> 01:41:29,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so how do they want you to document

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01:41:29,492 --> 01:41:31,532
Speaker 3: your your your your low brakes?

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Speaker 5: So when you when you basically feel like going to

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01:41:35,492 --> 01:41:38,253
Speaker 5: the toilet, like you go to the where the team

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01:41:38,333 --> 01:41:41,532
Speaker 5: leader sets and then you write down the time next

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Speaker 5: to your name that you you're going to the toilet

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Speaker 5: and then the time you come back.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like prison, Yeah, pretty much in operation.

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01:41:53,173 --> 01:41:55,973
Speaker 2: Do you think people have people been taking ages and

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01:41:56,053 --> 01:41:58,372
Speaker 2: ages in the in the in the bathroom or something.

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Speaker 5: I feel like there's a few people that actually do,

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Speaker 5: and that's in every workplace, and you hear it a

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01:42:06,772 --> 01:42:10,012
Speaker 5: lot of people taxing it in, but it's not fair

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01:42:10,093 --> 01:42:12,652
Speaker 5: for the people that actually need to go to the toilet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, funny enough, Like today, after a tool box I

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Speaker 5: kind of like an hour later, I kind of wanted

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01:42:21,412 --> 01:42:24,253
Speaker 5: to go toilet, and normally I like kind of power

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01:42:24,333 --> 01:42:26,812
Speaker 5: walk to the toilet, but I had to kind of

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01:42:26,893 --> 01:42:30,213
Speaker 5: detour to the team leader's office right down my hours.

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Speaker 5: But then I almost kind of like you know, went yeah,

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Speaker 5: right yeah, and I was like, well, I gotta go,

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Speaker 5: I gotta go. No, wait, wait, I need to look

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01:42:38,732 --> 01:42:39,213
Speaker 5: for that paper.

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Speaker 3: I was like, it's coming, boss, it's coming. I need

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Speaker 3: to go. Thank you for that. That's that's crazy. That

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01:42:47,412 --> 01:42:50,652
Speaker 3: is crazy. A documents system about It's like it is

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01:42:50,772 --> 01:42:52,013
Speaker 3: like the penal system, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Men and Tyler. Funny but We had an employee

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Speaker 2: who used to take forty five minute toilet breaks. Turns

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01:42:58,053 --> 01:42:59,492
Speaker 2: out he was watching football games.

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Speaker 3: On his phone. It speaks to your heart, mart I.

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Speaker 4: One hundred and eighty eighty is the number of call

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01:43:05,293 --> 01:43:06,572
Speaker 4: we've got full lines at the moment.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe that guy has to log as toilet breaks.

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Speaker 3: It's pardon the pun, it's twenty two to four pun intended.

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Speaker 1: Apologies your home of afternoon Talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams

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Speaker 1: afternoons call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

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Speaker 4: Say'd be it is nineteen to four. We've definitely had

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Speaker 4: a nerve here. There are hundreds and hundreds of techs

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01:43:31,293 --> 01:43:32,932
Speaker 4: coming through on this one. So this is a UK

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01:43:33,093 --> 01:43:36,333
Speaker 4: startup designing a toilet to make it uncomfortable for employees

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01:43:36,412 --> 01:43:38,612
Speaker 4: to stay in the bathroom too long. They say that

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Speaker 4: too many productivity hours are loss from employees are taking

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01:43:42,692 --> 01:43:44,772
Speaker 4: the mick and using the toilet just for a rest

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01:43:44,853 --> 01:43:47,532
Speaker 4: break instead of actually doing the business so to speak.

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Speaker 3: So I think this is this text.

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01:43:48,933 --> 01:43:50,892
Speaker 2: Here is the problem with New Zealand at the moment

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01:43:50,933 --> 01:43:53,412
Speaker 2: in our productivity. The text says, hope you too are

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01:43:53,452 --> 01:43:56,732
Speaker 2: replaced next year. So bloody boring. You have reached a

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01:43:56,812 --> 01:43:58,932
Speaker 2: new low with this topic. Well, why would you want

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01:43:58,973 --> 01:44:00,053
Speaker 2: us replace next year?

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01:44:00,253 --> 01:44:02,053
Speaker 3: If you if you hate it? What in your aim?

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01:44:02,173 --> 01:44:04,732
Speaker 2: Higher text and asked for us to be replaced now?

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01:44:05,253 --> 01:44:07,972
Speaker 2: Putting everything off to next year. That's why this economy

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01:44:08,053 --> 01:44:08,492
Speaker 2: is not work.

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01:44:08,572 --> 01:44:12,013
Speaker 3: It's people like you. Do you want us replaced? Why

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01:44:12,093 --> 01:44:12,652
Speaker 3: not tomorrow?

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01:44:12,812 --> 01:44:13,012
Speaker 6: Yeah?

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01:44:13,053 --> 01:44:13,333
Speaker 3: Why not?

2295
01:44:13,452 --> 01:44:13,612
Speaker 25: Now?

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01:44:13,692 --> 01:44:14,892
Speaker 2: Why not before the end of the show?

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01:44:14,933 --> 01:44:19,093
Speaker 3: Why next year? Texter? Efficiency? Man, you are better than this. Yeah,

2298
01:44:19,173 --> 01:44:20,972
Speaker 3: come on, that is what's holding this country back.

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01:44:21,013 --> 01:44:23,732
Speaker 4: People like you, You're the problem with this country. Be better,

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01:44:24,013 --> 01:44:26,293
Speaker 4: be more efficient, get rid of us now.

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01:44:27,612 --> 01:44:28,692
Speaker 3: The sex is a good topic.

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Speaker 2: I'm an employer and it irritates me when someone has

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01:44:31,013 --> 01:44:32,492
Speaker 2: just had their thirty minutes lunch break.

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01:44:32,572 --> 01:44:35,012
Speaker 3: Then does the toilet extension? Yeah, that would be common.

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01:44:35,213 --> 01:44:36,012
Speaker 3: That would be common.

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Speaker 2: So you come back from your break and then you say,

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01:44:39,452 --> 01:44:41,612
Speaker 2: you go right past your desk and get off to

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01:44:41,652 --> 01:44:42,892
Speaker 2: the bathroom for another ten.

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01:44:42,933 --> 01:44:45,612
Speaker 3: Smart good strategy. Pete, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 27: How do you guys? I'm just well, the time you

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01:44:50,532 --> 01:44:53,133
Speaker 27: get two and from doing your business, she's roughly twenty

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01:44:53,213 --> 01:44:57,692
Speaker 27: minutes a day, five days a week. That's an hour

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01:44:57,732 --> 01:45:02,052
Speaker 27: and a half fifty two weeks a year. That's eighty hours.

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01:45:02,173 --> 01:45:06,532
Speaker 27: It's two weeks pay for doing your business out of

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01:45:06,612 --> 01:45:11,093
Speaker 27: a year's pay. It's common sense to me. I love

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01:45:11,133 --> 01:45:12,812
Speaker 27: being paid to have a dumb ridden.

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01:45:17,492 --> 01:45:19,052
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thank you, Pete.

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01:45:19,133 --> 01:45:21,133
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one of the freedoms people would fight for,

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01:45:22,772 --> 01:45:24,732
Speaker 4: is to be paid to do your business on the dundy.

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Speaker 3: And I think a lot of people feel the same.

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Speaker 2: Actually, the sticks it says, I bet it's the males

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01:45:29,732 --> 01:45:31,732
Speaker 2: who take the longest. I think there's no doubt about that.

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01:45:31,893 --> 01:45:35,213
Speaker 2: Thanks Tammy. Yeah, I think there's no doubt about it

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01:45:35,412 --> 01:45:37,572
Speaker 2: that men spend more time in the bathroom. Why is that,

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01:45:37,652 --> 01:45:40,972
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, because arguably women have more things.

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Speaker 3: To do in there. Yeah, but I don't know what

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01:45:43,333 --> 01:45:45,213
Speaker 3: I mean by that. Well, no, it is true.

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Speaker 4: I mean, without going into too much detail here, if

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01:45:47,812 --> 01:45:51,293
Speaker 4: there was some sort of signing system for actual cubicles

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01:45:51,333 --> 01:45:53,732
Speaker 4: for the fellers and any other time you just go

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01:45:53,893 --> 01:45:56,573
Speaker 4: and use the urinal, I think that would speed up productivity.

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01:45:56,973 --> 01:45:58,852
Speaker 4: It's the sitting down when you don't need to sit

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01:45:58,973 --> 01:46:00,972
Speaker 4: down that gets this country into trouble.

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01:46:01,133 --> 01:46:03,692
Speaker 2: I think there's absolutely no one out there that is

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01:46:03,772 --> 01:46:07,572
Speaker 2: complaining about people legitimately using the bathroom. You'd have to

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01:46:07,612 --> 01:46:12,772
Speaker 2: be an absolute monster of an employer to restrict people.

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01:46:12,893 --> 01:46:14,612
Speaker 3: And as Ken said before, there's a lot of people

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01:46:14,612 --> 01:46:17,372
Speaker 3: in New Zella that are constipated, that's true, and we

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01:46:17,452 --> 01:46:19,293
Speaker 3: want them to have jobs. We don't want them to

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01:46:19,293 --> 01:46:20,972
Speaker 3: be productive members of society. Yep.

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01:46:21,093 --> 01:46:24,973
Speaker 2: Nice And look maybe we need to make prunes and

2342
01:46:25,133 --> 01:46:26,772
Speaker 2: brand or brand more available whatever.

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01:46:26,812 --> 01:46:28,652
Speaker 3: That's another issue. But the point is.

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01:46:30,293 --> 01:46:33,133
Speaker 2: We want them to be working. I think the thing

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01:46:33,452 --> 01:46:35,293
Speaker 2: that where it becomes a problem is when people are

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01:46:35,293 --> 01:46:39,012
Speaker 2: on their phone watching sport doom scrolling and everything's done

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01:46:39,213 --> 01:46:42,133
Speaker 2: almost immediately, and they're still in there for another fifteen Yeah,

2348
01:46:42,572 --> 01:46:45,173
Speaker 2: and then they you know, they stand up and one

2349
01:46:45,173 --> 01:46:46,612
Speaker 2: of their legs is going to sleep and they fall

2350
01:46:46,692 --> 01:46:47,612
Speaker 2: over and into themselves.

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01:46:47,772 --> 01:46:50,053
Speaker 3: And how do you police that? Oh, one hundred and

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01:46:50,053 --> 01:46:52,213
Speaker 3: eighty ten eight is number to call. John, Welcome to

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01:46:52,293 --> 01:46:52,572
Speaker 3: the show.

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01:46:54,572 --> 01:46:57,412
Speaker 28: If employers want to cut people's breaks down or stop

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01:46:57,532 --> 01:46:59,812
Speaker 28: and going to the toilet at all, make all the

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01:46:59,893 --> 01:47:01,933
Speaker 28: toilets like a hundred of us with toilets up in

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01:47:02,013 --> 01:47:04,092
Speaker 28: Northland right.

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01:47:04,013 --> 01:47:05,973
Speaker 4: I've been to the hunt of us toilets up and

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01:47:06,213 --> 01:47:08,133
Speaker 4: Upper Northland beautiful toilets.

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01:47:08,412 --> 01:47:11,492
Speaker 28: That you're actually have the actually use the toilet though

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01:47:11,893 --> 01:47:16,093
Speaker 28: it's the floor is all uneven and there's when I

2362
01:47:16,173 --> 01:47:19,772
Speaker 28: went in there at puddles of pe everywhere. It's stunt

2363
01:47:19,973 --> 01:47:22,973
Speaker 28: like anything because there's not a nice flat floor, so

2364
01:47:23,093 --> 01:47:26,452
Speaker 28: it's all uneven and there's puddles of urine everywhere. You

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01:47:26,492 --> 01:47:28,133
Speaker 28: don't want to put your hands, you don't want to

2366
01:47:28,133 --> 01:47:31,133
Speaker 28: put your pants down and sit down because because I'll

2367
01:47:31,173 --> 01:47:35,812
Speaker 28: get they'll get covered in and think it's gone down.

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01:47:37,652 --> 01:47:39,932
Speaker 28: It's the worst design of a toilet I've ever seen.

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01:47:40,253 --> 01:47:42,133
Speaker 28: But the employers that that no one has want to

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01:47:42,173 --> 01:47:42,612
Speaker 28: go at all.

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01:47:42,933 --> 01:47:46,333
Speaker 2: So what you're suggesting is artistic bathrooms that that are

2372
01:47:46,853 --> 01:47:49,173
Speaker 2: you know, works of art, but stink that.

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01:47:49,213 --> 01:47:51,532
Speaker 28: Impossible to unhygienics.

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01:47:53,853 --> 01:47:55,893
Speaker 3: Well, I mean you wouldn't have to do much. Just

2375
01:47:55,973 --> 01:47:57,093
Speaker 3: don't clean the bathrooms.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good point. So you're saving double there. Yeah, you

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01:47:59,732 --> 01:48:01,612
Speaker 4: don't have to be cleaners and people don't want to

2378
01:48:01,692 --> 01:48:01,973
Speaker 4: use them.

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01:48:02,293 --> 01:48:04,133
Speaker 2: I've just received a text from my sister. Call them

2380
01:48:04,133 --> 01:48:09,093
Speaker 2: me a hypocrite, Okay, tell us my sister Catherine. Yeah, Heymatt,

2381
01:48:09,372 --> 01:48:12,293
Speaker 2: does it count count that when you were little you

2382
01:48:12,452 --> 01:48:14,333
Speaker 2: used to fake need to go the loop for thirty

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01:48:14,372 --> 01:48:16,652
Speaker 2: minutes plus to avoid doing the dishes after dinner.

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01:48:18,173 --> 01:48:21,173
Speaker 3: Mom and dad caught you and then just left the

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01:48:21,213 --> 01:48:23,333
Speaker 3: dishes for you to do afterwards. How do you defend

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01:48:23,412 --> 01:48:26,572
Speaker 3: how they fired back? How do you defend that you've

2387
01:48:26,652 --> 01:48:27,053
Speaker 3: learnt though?

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01:48:27,853 --> 01:48:29,972
Speaker 4: We're going to get one of those tilted toilets for you, mate,

2389
01:48:30,293 --> 01:48:33,892
Speaker 4: right it is fourteen to four, Pete.

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01:48:34,213 --> 01:48:38,293
Speaker 3: What do you reckon about this? Hey, Peter?

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01:48:39,173 --> 01:48:41,893
Speaker 29: Oh hey, sorry, guys, I reckon we should treat it

2392
01:48:42,093 --> 01:48:46,253
Speaker 29: like fear that after certain amounts of time the toilet

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01:48:46,333 --> 01:48:47,932
Speaker 29: paper retracts.

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01:48:47,812 --> 01:48:54,852
Speaker 2: Back, because that would happen once and that would be it.

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01:48:54,933 --> 01:48:56,532
Speaker 2: You wouldn't be pushing the limit, would you.

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01:48:56,692 --> 01:48:56,892
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:48:57,452 --> 01:49:00,173
Speaker 29: Wait, well you even just walk into the stall and

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01:49:00,293 --> 01:49:01,612
Speaker 29: you go, is there paper?

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01:49:02,013 --> 01:49:02,372
Speaker 11: Sweet?

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01:49:02,532 --> 01:49:05,492
Speaker 29: Ten minutes later out? But if you know that the

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01:49:05,572 --> 01:49:09,932
Speaker 29: paper is going to retract, midwife, it's even worse.

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01:49:10,053 --> 01:49:10,253
Speaker 11: Fit.

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01:49:10,492 --> 01:49:13,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, they would do it. That is a great idea.

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01:49:13,652 --> 01:49:16,372
Speaker 2: Get angel in vesta. We'll give you numbers to you

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01:49:16,452 --> 01:49:18,612
Speaker 2: know some angel in vestors. I mean these guys with

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01:49:18,692 --> 01:49:23,492
Speaker 2: their thirteen degree toilet seat.

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01:49:23,652 --> 01:49:26,532
Speaker 3: That's a idea compared to the old retractable toilet paper and.

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01:49:26,572 --> 01:49:28,812
Speaker 2: My husband's work in Christ chitch. The cleaner cleans the

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01:49:28,893 --> 01:49:32,253
Speaker 2: toilets at morning smoko as it's the quite quietest.

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01:49:32,013 --> 01:49:34,692
Speaker 3: Time of the day to go to the bathroom. Of course.

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01:49:34,812 --> 01:49:37,093
Speaker 4: Yeah, the sticks says there was an old guy where

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01:49:37,133 --> 01:49:39,692
Speaker 4: I worked in England doing the old oe. He was

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01:49:39,732 --> 01:49:42,093
Speaker 4: always on this sunny One day I walked in and

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01:49:42,173 --> 01:49:44,652
Speaker 4: noticed his boots under the door. I gave the door

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01:49:44,732 --> 01:49:46,852
Speaker 4: a good kick, finished what I was doing, wash my

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01:49:46,933 --> 01:49:50,852
Speaker 4: hands and dried with the handy towel. Gave that a

2417
01:49:50,933 --> 01:49:53,213
Speaker 4: few jabs to see his reaction. As I walked out,

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01:49:53,253 --> 01:49:55,213
Speaker 4: the boss walked and the old guy finished his business,

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01:49:55,253 --> 01:49:57,173
Speaker 4: saw the boss and thought it was him doing the

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01:49:57,293 --> 01:50:00,253
Speaker 4: kicking and punching and came up to me in a rage,

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01:50:00,372 --> 01:50:01,173
Speaker 4: just hating on the boss.

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01:50:01,213 --> 01:50:02,852
Speaker 3: I went along with it, never told him it was me.

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01:50:02,933 --> 01:50:06,452
Speaker 3: Stirred up heaps of issues over the next couple of weeks.

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01:50:08,013 --> 01:50:10,613
Speaker 2: Product in New Zealand is the lowest in the OECD.

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01:50:10,772 --> 01:50:13,173
Speaker 2: I thought it was because of drug, alcohol abuse, mental

2426
01:50:13,253 --> 01:50:16,732
Speaker 2: health sick leave, and now we find out it's just

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01:50:16,772 --> 01:50:18,772
Speaker 2: the amount of time people are scrolling in the bathroom.

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01:50:19,133 --> 01:50:23,452
Speaker 3: H don you've read a book about this critical issue.

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01:50:24,492 --> 01:50:27,293
Speaker 12: Yeah, there's a very funny book over one hundred years old,

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01:50:27,532 --> 01:50:31,773
Speaker 12: very small book called The Specialists by a guy called Mortsale,

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01:50:32,853 --> 01:50:38,412
Speaker 12: and it's about outhouses, and like the Specialists would find

2432
01:50:38,412 --> 01:50:42,253
Speaker 12: a solution to every problem with the outhouse. And for instance,

2433
01:50:42,293 --> 01:50:45,892
Speaker 12: when someone was spending too long in there, he would

2434
01:50:46,333 --> 01:50:48,372
Speaker 12: be wooden seats, so he make them a bit jaggered,

2435
01:50:49,013 --> 01:50:54,293
Speaker 12: so was on too long. And then when the lady

2436
01:50:54,333 --> 01:50:57,532
Speaker 12: of the house wasn't keeping the fire going getting enough firewood,

2437
01:50:57,933 --> 01:51:02,173
Speaker 12: he would make sure that the outhouse was built. You'd

2438
01:51:02,173 --> 01:51:05,333
Speaker 12: have to walk past the woodpile to get there, so she,

2439
01:51:05,452 --> 01:51:06,892
Speaker 12: of course she'd pick them up and take it back

2440
01:51:06,893 --> 01:51:09,172
Speaker 12: to the kitchen and so on. It absolute scream.

2441
01:51:10,652 --> 01:51:11,732
Speaker 3: What's the name of the book again?

2442
01:51:12,572 --> 01:51:14,693
Speaker 12: It's called The Specialist by Mortsal.

2443
01:51:15,572 --> 01:51:18,372
Speaker 2: All right, man che that out, Thanks for you, called don. Hey,

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01:51:18,452 --> 01:51:20,612
Speaker 2: this is good news. So you know, I said before

2445
01:51:20,652 --> 01:51:22,213
Speaker 2: I read out the text, I said, I hope you

2446
01:51:22,253 --> 01:51:24,892
Speaker 2: to are replaced next year. You have reached you low

2447
01:51:24,933 --> 01:51:25,452
Speaker 2: with this topic.

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01:51:25,612 --> 01:51:25,772
Speaker 5: Yep.

2449
01:51:25,812 --> 01:51:28,812
Speaker 2: And I said, where's your ambition? Why do you want

2450
01:51:28,853 --> 01:51:30,612
Speaker 2: us replace next year? Get us replaced now?

2451
01:51:30,973 --> 01:51:31,213
Speaker 3: Yep?

2452
01:51:31,612 --> 01:51:34,692
Speaker 2: Well, I think they've run through asking for the boss's number. Okay,

2453
01:51:35,173 --> 01:51:38,412
Speaker 2: this person is turning around the lowest productivity in the

2454
01:51:38,692 --> 01:51:42,093
Speaker 2: OECD by not asking, putting things off the next year,

2455
01:51:42,173 --> 01:51:43,012
Speaker 2: trying to get us fired.

2456
01:51:43,133 --> 01:51:46,492
Speaker 3: Yeap, doing it now, and I applaud that person. Well done.

2457
01:51:46,612 --> 01:51:47,852
Speaker 3: That is getting stuff done.

2458
01:51:48,053 --> 01:51:50,692
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you think about it, don't wait for you know,

2459
01:51:50,893 --> 01:51:54,333
Speaker 4: investigations and all that sort of stuffy demand action right now,

2460
01:51:54,372 --> 01:51:55,333
Speaker 4: and you've done that clearly.

2461
01:51:55,452 --> 01:51:58,492
Speaker 3: Poop'll get off the potty and I respect that, love it.

2462
01:51:59,293 --> 01:52:02,532
Speaker 3: Get us fired now. Plenty of ticks covered.

2463
01:52:02,333 --> 01:52:05,013
Speaker 4: Through on this issue, just this one quickly to the

2464
01:52:05,053 --> 01:52:08,852
Speaker 4: break Gaday, Guys, I'm a small business owner. My staff

2465
01:52:08,893 --> 01:52:13,053
Speaker 4: turn up whenever they have breaks, whenever they want rather

2466
01:52:13,213 --> 01:52:13,852
Speaker 4: and work hard.

2467
01:52:13,933 --> 01:52:16,412
Speaker 3: We don't keep track. We just trust each other.

2468
01:52:16,853 --> 01:52:19,612
Speaker 4: Saying that if someone was going to the toilet more

2469
01:52:19,652 --> 01:52:22,333
Speaker 4: than a dozen times a day, I'd probably start asking questions.

2470
01:52:22,572 --> 01:52:24,692
Speaker 2: And the sixth is in our new workplace, they've got

2471
01:52:24,732 --> 01:52:28,133
Speaker 2: the lights on a really quick sensor, so it goes

2472
01:52:28,213 --> 01:52:30,132
Speaker 2: completely dark after about three minutes.

2473
01:52:30,772 --> 01:52:33,812
Speaker 3: That keeps you move man. True, that is that's a

2474
01:52:33,853 --> 01:52:35,772
Speaker 3: pretty short time. Three minutes. You can't do much in

2475
01:52:35,853 --> 01:52:36,333
Speaker 3: three minutes.

2476
01:52:36,532 --> 01:52:39,333
Speaker 2: But I'm with Ken here, what about the constipated community.

2477
01:52:39,652 --> 01:52:40,892
Speaker 2: I've got to look after them as well.

2478
01:52:40,933 --> 01:52:42,812
Speaker 4: We've got to think about those people. It is ten

2479
01:52:42,933 --> 01:52:45,612
Speaker 4: to four back very shortly. You listening to Matt and Tyler.

2480
01:52:45,572 --> 01:52:49,213
Speaker 3: Won't somebody please think about the constipation community.

2481
01:52:49,853 --> 01:52:53,253
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2482
01:52:53,612 --> 01:52:57,412
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tayler Adams afternoons used

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01:52:57,412 --> 01:52:58,092
Speaker 1: talk z'd.

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01:52:57,933 --> 01:53:00,452
Speaker 3: Be excuse me, news talk z'b.

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01:53:00,572 --> 01:53:03,253
Speaker 4: So we've been talking about this UK startup that's designed

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01:53:03,253 --> 01:53:06,213
Speaker 4: to toilet that has slanted at a thirteen degree angle,

2487
01:53:06,253 --> 01:53:09,173
Speaker 4: the pointers to make it so uncomfort for workers. They

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01:53:09,213 --> 01:53:11,492
Speaker 4: don't spend any longer than five minutes in there. So

2489
01:53:11,732 --> 01:53:16,333
Speaker 4: many tickes have come through on this. This one says, guys,

2490
01:53:16,412 --> 01:53:19,093
Speaker 4: what about the public toilets that do actually have a

2491
01:53:19,213 --> 01:53:23,372
Speaker 4: maximum use time? The ones in Dunedin, So your maximum

2492
01:53:23,452 --> 01:53:25,492
Speaker 4: use time is ten minutes? And a robotic voice then

2493
01:53:25,532 --> 01:53:28,293
Speaker 4: plays Bert Becker at music through the speakers.

2494
01:53:28,293 --> 01:53:29,772
Speaker 3: Not a place you want to hang out for too long?

2495
01:53:30,133 --> 01:53:35,852
Speaker 3: I know, well we need is love, sweet love. He's

2496
01:53:35,893 --> 01:53:36,612
Speaker 3: got a couple of hits.

2497
01:53:37,013 --> 01:53:40,692
Speaker 2: Burt Pack absolute genius. But yes, when the door slings open,

2498
01:53:41,173 --> 01:53:43,093
Speaker 2: that's the problem is that.

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01:53:43,213 --> 01:53:44,852
Speaker 4: What they do so after the ten minutes, I think

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01:53:44,893 --> 01:53:46,892
Speaker 4: it does the doors start to swing open and then

2501
01:53:46,893 --> 01:53:47,452
Speaker 4: you're in trouble.

2502
01:53:47,572 --> 01:53:49,372
Speaker 2: This is great from Steve. He says, Hey, guys, we

2503
01:53:49,492 --> 01:53:51,812
Speaker 2: need to treat toilet breaks like an F one pit stop,

2504
01:53:52,532 --> 01:53:55,973
Speaker 2: no need for reading or three minutes light timer and

2505
01:53:56,213 --> 01:53:59,053
Speaker 2: likelyam go on and under a minute sorted Steve. I mean, yeah,

2506
01:53:59,093 --> 01:54:00,852
Speaker 2: people need to be celebrated for the speed. You know,

2507
01:54:01,333 --> 01:54:04,213
Speaker 2: we had a quarter before whose work has started logging

2508
01:54:04,333 --> 01:54:07,452
Speaker 2: andy to logging themselves in and out. Yeah, but then

2509
01:54:07,532 --> 01:54:10,612
Speaker 2: do we need to celebrate you know, fast pit times.

2510
01:54:10,772 --> 01:54:12,173
Speaker 3: We've got to flip that around and give them a

2511
01:54:12,213 --> 01:54:14,612
Speaker 3: pay rise. Yeah. No, I mean Ferrari comes in two

2512
01:54:14,652 --> 01:54:18,173
Speaker 3: point one seconds. Let's go, Come on New Zealand's it's

2513
01:54:18,173 --> 01:54:20,612
Speaker 3: a campaign we can get behind. Oh, it is a

2514
01:54:20,652 --> 01:54:20,973
Speaker 3: good one.

2515
01:54:21,053 --> 01:54:25,093
Speaker 2: If you're consummated, go by lactaloose from Chemist Warehouse. It's

2516
01:54:25,173 --> 01:54:27,333
Speaker 2: nine dollars a bottle. Take twenty miles twice a day,

2517
01:54:27,372 --> 01:54:29,452
Speaker 2: then twenty million months a day once it starts working.

2518
01:54:29,652 --> 01:54:32,053
Speaker 2: It's a softener. It's bad for you to sit on

2519
01:54:32,093 --> 01:54:35,333
Speaker 2: the toilet and strain for too long. Yeah, and the

2520
01:54:35,373 --> 01:54:37,173
Speaker 2: good people at poohwell will probably help you out as well.

2521
01:54:37,253 --> 01:54:37,413
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2522
01:54:37,453 --> 01:54:39,293
Speaker 3: Good medical advice, very good.

2523
01:54:39,413 --> 01:54:42,772
Speaker 4: Should we put this subject a bit Yeah, we know

2524
01:54:42,933 --> 01:54:45,373
Speaker 4: you loved it, kid. We had hundreds and hundreds of

2525
01:54:45,373 --> 01:54:46,053
Speaker 4: teaks on that one.

2526
01:54:46,133 --> 01:54:48,493
Speaker 2: But thank you so much for listening everyone. I love

2527
01:54:48,573 --> 01:54:51,213
Speaker 2: the chats today, So grateful for all your calls and text.

2528
01:54:51,653 --> 01:54:54,533
Speaker 2: As you say, Todder, that last hour blew up. Yeah,

2529
01:54:54,933 --> 01:54:57,373
Speaker 2: I must have broken the text gene on bathroom towns.

2530
01:54:57,772 --> 01:54:59,533
Speaker 2: It's interesting what people want to talk about, isn't it.

2531
01:54:59,613 --> 01:55:00,253
Speaker 3: It certainly is.

2532
01:55:00,373 --> 01:55:03,212
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something we all have to experience. Our podcast

2533
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Speaker 2: is available in about an hour. The great and Powerful

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Speaker 2: is up next. But right now, Tyler, my good friend,

2536
01:55:14,772 --> 01:55:16,533
Speaker 2: tell me why I'm playing this particular song.

2537
01:55:16,613 --> 01:55:18,613
Speaker 3: Obviously you got no idea who is it and what's

2538
01:55:18,653 --> 01:55:21,892
Speaker 3: the song called. The song is called Blue Day by

2539
01:55:21,973 --> 01:55:23,093
Speaker 3: the band My Sex.

2540
01:55:24,293 --> 01:55:26,933
Speaker 4: Of course, because we had, of all people with the

2541
01:55:27,013 --> 01:55:30,092
Speaker 4: drummer of my seats call through never good yarn about

2542
01:55:30,493 --> 01:55:33,333
Speaker 4: never will always take opportunities when they're presented to you.

2543
01:55:33,693 --> 01:55:36,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is just such a fantastic song.

2544
01:55:37,253 --> 01:55:39,892
Speaker 2: I love it all right until tomorrow afternoon, give them

2545
01:55:39,893 --> 01:55:40,293
Speaker 2: a taste of.

2546
01:55:40,333 --> 01:55:42,493
Speaker 3: Keys from us. Thanks for listening. You seem does, he

2547
01:55:42,533 --> 01:55:43,613
Speaker 3: will let you go. I love you.

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