1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: All right, a huge step towards trains actually running through 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: the City rail Link. Last night a test train actually 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: went through the tunnel for the first time. It took 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: them two and a half hours to complete the journey. 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: The journey's three point five kilometers. They took it slow. 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: They did it slow so that the technicians could problem 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: shoot all the way. So City rail Link Chief Executive 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: as Patrick Brockey, and Patrick was there and he's here 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: and now Hello Patrick. 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: Hi Andrew, nice to be talking to you. 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: And congratulations. That must have been a buzz. 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: Oh the real milestone actually, and there was a small 13 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: party of staff and well Wish was down there too, 14 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: saying the train off from white Matar station. So no, 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: very exciting and proud maintainment for all of those that 16 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: have been evolved over many years, from our contractors through 17 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: to our partner's Kirawork and Transport orkan one. While. Yeah, 18 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: big milestone for us, so thank you. 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: Okay, So the very first you did it five times, 20 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: but the very first time you did it you did 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: three going four or five kilometers and two and a 22 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: half hours. You did it slow. Why it's just. 23 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: Being safe five kilometers an hour Initially and building up 24 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: from there. But we just need to check the tunnel 25 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: clearance and make sure the train runs through smoothly without 26 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: any interruptions. We were pretty confident about that, of course, 27 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 2: with all the work we've done, but you're never sure 28 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: until the day and then power supply. Just ensuring it's 29 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: continuous through the tunnels. We're also looking at all the 30 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: signaling that down there, that's that's ready out managed by 31 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: Kivy Rail, but making sure the signaling is all in order. 32 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: And it went very well. The test roll positive, so 33 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: we're off to a good start. 34 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: Did you get faster, I mean you did another four 35 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: trips and did you get faster? In which case, what 36 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: is the current speed record for the city routing tunnel. 37 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: Well, well, we did get faster, materially faster, and I 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: think over the next few days we would hope to 39 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: get up to about the maximum of forty k an hour. 40 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: And that's how fast it will run when it's in 41 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: regular service. 42 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: No, it can go faster. I can go up to 43 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: seventy kilometers an hour, but I think forty at the moment. 44 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 2: As we find out any sort of bugs in the system, 45 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: and there are a couple you know, we have some 46 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: some we're still work to do on the tracks, some 47 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: minor works, but they still have to be done and 48 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: it's just safer to run it at moderate speeds for now. 49 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: So what needs to happen from here? You've said you're 50 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: going to keep on testing, and I know that the 51 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: tracks obviously work, but the big problem is going to 52 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: be the systems that actually monitor and control the trains. 53 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: That can take quite a long time. So what is 54 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: going to happen next from here and how long will 55 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 1: it take? 56 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: Well, you definitely hit the name on the head of 57 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 2: the system's part. That's one of the most complex part 58 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: of the project with the testing and commissioning phase, with 59 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 2: the running of the trains. There's over eight thousand tests 60 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: andrew that we have to run over the course of 61 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: the year, so it's really just only just started that. 62 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: As you know, we've also got to complete the station. 63 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: So there's an examples the ceilings, the tiling works, some 64 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: of the ticket gates are actually in a couple of 65 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: the stations, which is great tunnel ventilation system. These are 66 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: massive tunnel events. I've given an example. They came by 67 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: up to eight tons, but they are just we're going 68 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: running full testing now and those that will continue for 69 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: some time. And then, as you pointed out, the other 70 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: systems involved the installation and commissioning of those systems, and 71 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: they cover examples fire heating, a fire emergency prevention, heating, lighting, CCTV. 72 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,839 Speaker 2: We've also got works outside of the stations, some urban 73 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: realm or footpath and paving works. So there's quite a 74 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: lot left to do. We have just under nine hundred 75 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: staff still working on at the stations, and so it 76 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: would give you a sense of the scale of work 77 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: that we still have to complete this year. 78 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: So you're hoping to open in twenty twenty six. Do 79 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: you believe you're on track? 80 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: Yes, we do. 81 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: Would you like to give a date. 82 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: Right? Twenty twenty six? 83 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: Is twenty six? 84 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: Not be vague, Andrew, but I think we'll I think 85 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six is about as specific as we can 86 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: be right now, just because and it's not again not 87 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: being evasive, but the last year is complex and we've 88 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: got a lot to do still, and it can be 89 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: the unknowns. But look, we're working as hard as we 90 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: can to open as early as possible. 91 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: We're so keen to see it, I have to say, 92 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: and I have read about the Elizabeth Line in London 93 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: and just how long it took to get that just 94 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: good and safe and working properly. Is the signaling you 95 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: don't want trains going down the wrong tracks. Just when 96 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: you were talking about all the infrastructure down there, there 97 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: must be an enormous drain of electricity. 98 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: No, there's there's a power place, pretty important for a 99 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: railway for sure, and of course we're running the station 100 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 2: systems and so on. So no, that's that's that's definitely 101 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: the case. But we were that's well catered for and 102 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 2: in place, so we we don't expect to have problems 103 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: in that area. 104 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: When do you get to take the mayor for a 105 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: bit of a tour on a train. 106 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: That's a good question, not one we've covered yet, but 107 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: when it's safe to do so. Andrew, I think, look, 108 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: we'd like the general public about to see the project 109 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: as soon as possible, and the only substitute at the 110 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: moment is we've got some really good comms on our website, 111 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 2: drone footage, we've got monthly newsletters with updates on the 112 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: station works, and encourage your listeners to look at that 113 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: because I think it's very that's very helpful and getting 114 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: some visualization of how the stations are coming along. Hopefully 115 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: we can we can do more than that at some 116 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: point during the year when it's safe to do so. 117 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: But in terms of the Mayor and the Minister writing 118 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: the first train or for riding a train, that's not 119 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: on the plans right at the moment, but I'm sure 120 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: that will be. 121 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: Patrick, Patrick, it's good politics if you know what I mean, 122 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: and you talk about the public, I mean, I've walked 123 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: through every tunnel that's been built in this city, and 124 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: I've walked over every bridge, including over Spaghetti Junction when 125 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: it was built back in the seventies. So will is 126 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: there any possibility that we could come for a bit 127 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: of a wander through the tunnels for the public at 128 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: some stage of the future. 129 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 2: I think the stations is more likely entered than the 130 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: tunnels themselves because we have energized so there's power running 131 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: through the tunnels. But when the time is right, if 132 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 2: we can do something with our stations and giving the 133 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: public a glimpse of how they're going to look, and 134 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: they will lock stunning, we'd love to do that. 135 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: Can't wait. Patrick, congratulate your team and I thank you 136 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: for your time tonight and all the very best. 137 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, Andrew, good talk to you. 138 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: There's Patrick Brocky who's in charge of the c L. 139 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: Remember it was supposed to be finished in twenty twenty five. 140 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: It was supposed to be opened in twenty twenty six. 141 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: Now he's talking about finishing it in twenty twenty six. 142 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: So will it be opened in twenty twenty seven. 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