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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at Me.

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Speaker 2: Catherine Rains is our book reviewer. She's with us this morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning Jack. How is our resident petrol head?

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Speaker 3: Oh fantastic and Melbourne at the F one could not

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Speaker 3: be any better.

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Speaker 2: Ah, so exciting. So things kick off this afternoon, right,

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Speaker 2: we've got qualifying, We've got another practice run this afternoon

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Speaker 2: and then qualifying this evening. I think at six o'clock

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Speaker 2: New Zealand time, at four o'clock your time.

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Speaker 3: That's correct. So yeah, watched one and f P two

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Speaker 3: yesterday which was great. Yeah, it's just it's awesome. The

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Speaker 3: atmosphere is fantastic, this is always the cars everything.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So this is your first time you've been to

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Speaker 2: an F one weekend day. You're a massive, massive Noticebale fan.

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Speaker 2: Your first time on any one weekend? So what surprised

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Speaker 2: you about it? What hadn't you anticipated?

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Speaker 3: I don't think i'd quite anticipated how like large the

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Speaker 3: track was. I knew it was, but just yeah, just

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Speaker 3: and what's going on around it as well, the atmosphere

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Speaker 3: around it and what's going on in Melbourne, Like I've

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Speaker 3: you know, I saw Little Hamilton, and I've seen full

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Speaker 3: through boats, I've seen max for stepping and I've been

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Speaker 3: off the track so and a couple of them wait,

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Speaker 3: complete accidents.

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Speaker 2: So amazing. Yeah, what's going on is yeah? Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: what about the sound? Because you've got new cars this year, right,

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Speaker 2: and they've got this sort of they're almost like hybrid's day.

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Speaker 2: They've got the they've got the normal motor, but they've

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Speaker 2: also got a kind of battery thing inside them. So

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Speaker 2: what is the sound of the cars like? Is it

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Speaker 2: what you anticipated?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: I think it's less And the general general kind of

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Speaker 3: when chatting to people around the track, the general thought

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Speaker 3: is that but it's still loud, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 3: but the general thought is that it's definitely quieter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And are people happy about that or a bit miffed?

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Speaker 3: No, No one seems particularly bothered. I mean, if P

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Speaker 3: one was interesting because they were obviously all out testing

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Speaker 3: the cars and you know, trying to work out how

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Speaker 3: well it was going, and it was a bit. If

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Speaker 3: we're P one they were pretty quiet. Yeah, If P

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Speaker 3: two they just absolutely took.

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Speaker 2: Off, they gunned it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly wouldn't want to be eston And that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: I think that's probably pretty stressful few days for them.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you know, Mercedes Ferrari McLaren, they're all

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Speaker 3: up there as you would expect.

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Speaker 2: Very gooirl. Oh look, I'm going to be thinking of

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Speaker 2: you all throughout the weekend, and I'm sure you're not

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Speaker 2: going to have a whole lot of downtime. But if

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Speaker 2: you did and you were looking for something good to read, well,

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Speaker 2: good news, as you've got two recommendations that you'd share.

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Speaker 2: So let's begin this morning with Witch Trail by Harriet Tye.

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Speaker 3: So this story is told from the perspective of a

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Speaker 3: guy called Matthew Phillips, and he's a heart surgeon and

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Speaker 3: he's been called for jury service, and despite the fact

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Speaker 3: that he could have been excused due to the nature

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Speaker 3: of his job, he decides that he's going to perform

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Speaker 3: his civic duty, not for you know, he's not because

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Speaker 3: he really feels he has to, but actually because he's

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Speaker 3: trying to escape issues in his work and personal life.

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Speaker 3: And it's not as easy as what he thinks. When

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Speaker 3: he discovers that he's actually part of this jury for

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Speaker 3: two girls who are on trial for more murdering their

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Speaker 3: school friend, and the two girls called Eliza Lawson and

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Speaker 3: Elizabeth Smith, and they're accused of murdering and bullying this

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Speaker 3: eighteen year old girl called Christian Shaw, whose body was

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Speaker 3: founded in Edinburgh Park, and to add into the mix,

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Speaker 3: they decide to claim to be witches. And Matthew at

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Speaker 3: this point is starting to recreate his choices and life

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Speaker 3: is beginning to unravel in ways that you wouldn't expect

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Speaker 3: and Tice, the author takes you into the inner workings

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Speaker 3: of the Scotland jury system and the antics that have

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Speaker 3: gone on in this particular jury room, and Matthew's mindset

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Speaker 3: is really odd, and the jury are not above twisting

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Speaker 3: the rules, and the jury members and the lawyers and

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Speaker 3: evidence and the girls are under complete scrutiny with these

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Speaker 3: changing perspectives and kind of a hysteria that's growing around

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Speaker 3: this case in the trial, and public sentiment labels the

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Speaker 3: young woman, depending on what side you're on, as either

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Speaker 3: a victim or a villain. And social media and the

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Speaker 3: fear and that blurring of boundaries of what's real and

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Speaker 3: his box has this really tense, tense atmosphere and lots

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Speaker 3: of layers, and it's actually really quite unsettling, but it's

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Speaker 3: a really interesting look at what constitutes truth and judgment.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, this is very intriguing. So that's Witch Trail

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Speaker 2: by Harriet Tice. You've also read The hard Line by

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Speaker 2: Mark Greeney.

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Speaker 3: So this is You've got lots of action and danger

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Speaker 3: and death in this and it centers on international intrigue

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Speaker 3: in the US intelligent community. And the main character is

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Speaker 3: a guy called Court Gentry, and he's a former CIA

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Speaker 3: Parliament Parliament Paramilitary Operations officer, and he's quite perceptive and

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Speaker 3: he's able. He's one of those guys that can sort

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Speaker 3: of sum up a situation pretty quickly. And his former boss,

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Speaker 3: a guy called Hal Hangley, has been commissioned by the

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Speaker 3: Director of Intelligence and Operations to set up this undercover

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Speaker 3: intelligence group to grapple with who in the US government

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Speaker 3: has been leaking secrets to the Chinese and Russians. And

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Speaker 3: so Hanley sends Gentry down to Nicoagua to reserve to

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Speaker 3: rescue this intelligent ast who's in danger, and what follows

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Speaker 3: next just goes horribly wrong, and he encounters these two

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Speaker 3: Chinese nationalists and he's lucky to escape with his life

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Speaker 3: along with the asset and then kind of back in

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Speaker 3: the US, there's this guy called James Westwood who's determined

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Speaker 3: to be elected a senator from New Hampshire and there's

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Speaker 3: this great ambition to become president and to achieve his goal,

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Speaker 3: he's done a deal with the Chinese in exchange for

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Speaker 3: intelligence that the Chinese want so much more on return,

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Speaker 3: and it sets off the series events. And so there's

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Speaker 3: multiple plots criss crossing. There's lots of action and intrigue,

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Speaker 3: and the author Greeney is a great storyteller, and it's

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Speaker 3: with interesting characters and plenty of action.

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Speaker 2: Oh so good, all right, this sounds fantastic, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: So that's The hard Line by Mark Greeney. Your first

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Speaker 2: book is Witch Trailed by Harriet Tyres. Both of those

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Speaker 2: will be on the website. Of course. You have an

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Speaker 2: amazing weekend, Catherine. I'm going to be scouring the TV coverage.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be looking there the whole timing. I'll

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Speaker 2: be looking at this Lewis Hamilton on the left. There's

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Speaker 2: Toto Wolf over there, okay, or there's Vestappen stepping in.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Liam Lawson's passing through front. There's Catherine. There's Catherine

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Speaker 2: only Yeah, seriously, have an amazing time. I'm can't wait

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Speaker 2: to hear about today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame.

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