1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Oh goodness, I'm supposed to speak thirty away. I know 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: you what I get hold on. The reason I forgot 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: to speak is I'm reading a statement from Dame Nolene 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: that I have to talk about. Its new statement that's 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: just come out, and it's just made everything. 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: Just anyone frustrated with she that's more important than so. 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about that later on, but right 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: now it's thirteen away from five Barry Sober, Senior political 9 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: correspondence with me High barryes well. The Malori parties and meltdown, 10 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: isn't it. 11 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: Well? You know we've been saying this, haven't we for weeks? 12 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: Now it's in meltdown, but it just gets goes from 13 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: bad to words. Now they're calling for John Tammahead's resignation 14 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: and it comes following a vote by the party members 15 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: to suspend Mardamino Carpacini, the executive of Teitai Tonga. They 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: cover the South Island, and of course it's Takuta Ferras's 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: electra that they abstained from that resolution. And now they're 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: adding fuel to the fire as well. Now taku to 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: Faris he says that he supported Cappakinghi and he didn't 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: agree with the motion to suspender. Now that's all very fine. 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: Then we had John Tamman Harry heading back in a 22 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: very large post on social media today. He called it 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: a white freezing of a white feeding frenzy. I mean, 24 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: you know, just leave. 25 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: The racism is so undecessary. 26 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: If any political party was melting down to the extent 27 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: that they are regardless of race, you'd be talking about it. 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: I mean, this is politics. Nevertheless, he decided to have 29 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: a go bad. He also dug in and he said 30 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:47,919 Speaker 2: that this is not Carpa Kingy's first rodeo in August 31 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, and he's trying to drive further divisions 32 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: in the party. He said, Cappa Kingy objected vehemently to 33 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: the position of Hannah might be Clark on the list, 34 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: and essentially she objected to it because they didn't want 35 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: someone in nappies to take that electorate. Well, you know, 36 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: so now he's driven the division further, trying to isolate. 37 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 1: Well, it does it not feel so if you've heard 38 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: the rumors, right, you've you've heard Maria Menal Kappa king 39 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: it was problematic. She's now been whatever. 40 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: I don't know how to do it. 41 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: So she's on the and you've heard Takuza feris trouble 42 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: as well. Now his electorate has caused more trouble. And 43 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: then you also heard Hannah Mighty Clark has been difficult 44 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: for party leadership kiper the new one. And it feels 45 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: like what John Tamerhead is trying to do here is 46 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: drive a wedge between Maria Meno and Hannah so they 47 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: don't go together exactly. 48 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: And also the divisions are all over the place he's 49 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: trying to drive. 50 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 1: Now, okay, so Luxe's had something to say. 51 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: Oh, of course, yes, sir, this is music to the 52 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: government's he is. Chris Luckson at his post cabinet news 53 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: conference was having fun at the Maori. 54 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: I don't think to party Maray is a serious outfit. 55 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: I think they are activist. I think that performative. I've 56 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: never had a sensible I've never heard of a single 57 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 3: policy idea from Taparty Maori about how they're going to 58 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 3: improve outcomes from Maori students, Maori health, Mario achievement, and 59 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 3: so you know, I don't take them seriously frankly, and 60 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 3: I think you know the people, I don't want to 61 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: work with them. I won't be working with them. But 62 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: the guy that does is Chris Sipkins. He wants to 63 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: work with them, So does he want to work with 64 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 3: the Greens. All that means is more tax more spending, 65 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: more borrowing, and frankly, a party that hasn't had one 66 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 3: serious policy idea. I mean, imagine a cabinet table where 67 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: Chris Hopkins is sitting there with Chloe Swarburick as Minister 68 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 3: of Finance and Marta mcdavidson and Rawery Ytt and Dewi Noldapacker. 69 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 3: That is just chaos, you know, it's just a complete 70 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: soap opera. Well, we came here to do serious things 71 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: and that's what I'm getting out of bed to do 72 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,839 Speaker 3: every day. What the hell everyone else does? I don't 73 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: really care. 74 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: Frankly, I've never heard Lackson has sort of so stirred 75 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: up about, doesn't he? Well, I think you know, his 76 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: objectives is obviously trying to keep them out of power. 77 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: So he said that any accommodation that National may have 78 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: with them is out the gate, Unlike what John Key 79 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: did in two thousand and eight. 80 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: Listen very quickly, what's going on with the capital gains idea? 81 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: Essentially they look, they haven't answered the essential question when 82 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: do you get your valuation? 83 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: When do you get your valuation? Who does the valuation, 84 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: who pays for the valuation? 85 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well a spokesperson for the Inland Revenue they said 86 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: they don't want to be commenting on the policy, but 87 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 2: they said, look, the approaches that have been made concerning 88 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: the bright line test, which is the current capital gains 89 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: tax we really have doesn't apply because it doesn't use 90 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 2: evaluation day, which is quite correct us a sale day 91 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: and rateful values have been talked about. They are the 92 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: values council gives on your property, and of course they 93 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: can't be relied on because you may have upgraded your property, 94 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 2: put a swimming pull in the backyard or something. So yeah, 95 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: you know, I mean this is a policy without a hell. 96 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: Of a lot between capital gains in the Maori Party 97 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: US see labors on tractor not win the next election. 98 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: ASA. 99 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: Thank you, Barry very Soper, Senior political correspondent. 100 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 101 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,679 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 102 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.