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Speaker 1: the full picture. Heather Duper Clan Drive with One New

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Speaker 1: Zealand let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the show. Coming up today. It sounds like

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Speaker 4: the US is getting cold feet over August. We're going

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Speaker 4: to go to Ossie get their take on it. Water

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Speaker 4: bills in the Capitol could soon be fifty dollars a week.

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Speaker 4: Speak to counselor Tim Brown and what made those wall

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Speaker 4: carpets suddenly affordable for cying order?

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Speaker 2: Heather dupericy Ellen's So, I think.

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Speaker 4: The UN is wrong. The UN has released a report

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Speaker 4: today on the world's for falling birth rates and they've

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Speaker 4: blamed it on money. They reckon that the global fertility crisis,

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Speaker 4: as they're calling it, we're not having enough kids basically

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Speaker 4: to replace ourselves, is not because we don't want to

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Speaker 4: have kids or sorry, it's not because we can't have

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Speaker 4: kids because we've got a fertility problem. It's because we're

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Speaker 4: choosing not to have kids because we simply cannot afford

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Speaker 4: to have kids. Now, well, this is their theory. I

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Speaker 4: think that theory is wrong because I don't think money

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Speaker 4: is the problem. I think the problem is women are

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Speaker 4: just too busy nowadays. The reason I don't think money

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Speaker 4: is the problem is a bunch of examples that are

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Speaker 4: given by Professor Paul Spoonley, who's a bit of a

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Speaker 4: at all. It didn't lift the birth rate. It didn't work.

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Speaker 4: Sweden another example. Sweden is ridiculous and how much help

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Speaker 4: it gives parents, right, They make it so easy for

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Speaker 4: people to have kids in Sweden. They have hugely generous childcare,

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Speaker 4: they have generous maternity and paternity leave, everything you could

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Speaker 4: probably need, possibly need to make the journey as easy

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Speaker 4: for yourself as possible. Sweden's birth rate is basically the

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Speaker 4: same as ours. So that tells you it's not the money.

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Speaker 4: It is not the financial help that's the difference. And

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Speaker 4: actually think about it, even in your own life. How

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Speaker 4: many rich couples do you know who have maybe one,

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Speaker 4: explain that. I think it's because professional women and nowadays

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Speaker 4: just too busy to have kids or to have many kids,

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Speaker 4: because it is hard to be a working mum. And

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying this is a complaint. I love being

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Speaker 4: You don't get a breakout. You're up in the morning,

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Speaker 4: packing their lunch off, they go to kender. You got

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Speaker 4: them started on their day. What happens you get to

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Speaker 4: put feet up after that shimozzle that's just gone on

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Speaker 4: for the last two to three hours. No, you're straight

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Speaker 4: I would love to hear your experience, if you've got

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Speaker 4: talk about rubbish, okay, kere We households are wasting about

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Speaker 4: And it's not just food that we're wasting. New Zealand

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Speaker 5: Hey Nick, Hi, Hi, here the how are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm very well, thank Here's a lot of waste day.

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Speaker 5: Look it is, and we're just spending so much more

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Speaker 5: you look at illegal dumping. I'm not sure if you

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Speaker 4: What should we do with this stuff? What should we

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Speaker 5: Oh? Look, I think illegal dumping, I mean obviously the

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Speaker 5: But which is rather that people actually did the right thing,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but what do we do? But what do we

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Speaker 4: the problem isn't so much where well it was obviously

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Speaker 5: So actually when you buy something, think about how long

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Speaker 5: Is it going to end up in landfall? Because we

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Speaker 5: don't want these things end to govern landfall. We want

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Speaker 4: But how do you do that, Nick, Because okay, let's

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Speaker 5: I'm just making some assumptions here, but I don't know

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Speaker 4: It was just a mattress. It was just the mattress.

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Speaker 4: Nick Quilty, the CEO of Wasteman's nailed it. Heather read

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Speaker 4: the working mums. Don't get us started on what the

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: I don't know who does the homework with them, by

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Speaker 4: We've only had two kids. The first was such an angel.

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Speaker 4: He's why we had the second, and then the second

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Speaker 4: another one with them Anyway, I don't know. It's just

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Speaker 4: I'm never having kids, not due to time or money,

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Speaker 4: just selfish. I want to travel when I like where

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Speaker 4: No fun dealing with toilet training and school teacher night.

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Speaker 4: Suck it up, parents, note, Steve your prerogative entirely. Mate.

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Speaker 4: we've got the US open.

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Speaker 8: Yes we have it gets underway at Oakmont.

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Speaker 4: And how do we think the Fox is going to do.

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Speaker 4: It's that tough.

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Speaker 4: Hey, thank you, thank you. I appreciate it. Darce. Okay,

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Speaker 4: we'll seek you bringing the opposite energy that you normally bring.

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Speaker 4: Right now, Darcy will be back at seven for sports Talk.

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Speaker 4: And we're too relaxed, Darcy water Grave.

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Speaker 4: Elon has said he's sorry. Elon is sorry. Know is

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Speaker 1: Putting the challenging questions to the people. At the heart

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Speaker 10: You were my head, my bere, I'm dreaming.

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Speaker 3: Mas, very good afternoon, Heather. So what is going on

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Speaker 3: Australia is sitting here like a pluck chicken. There's nothing

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Speaker 3: between us. And you know, if President she wants to

437
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Speaker 3: come down the turn butke and so I quite like Darwin,

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Speaker 3: I'll I'll have Darwin. Well he's going to stop him. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: But the fact of the matter is Australia can't afford

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Speaker 3: to spend any more money. And we can't afford to

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Speaker 3: spend four hundred billion dollars in today's dollars on submarine.

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Speaker 4: No, yeah, well you can't afford to buy those submarines.

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Speaker 4: That's ridiculous. But of course you can afford to spend

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Speaker 4: more on defense, and frankly, you may just have to,

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Speaker 4: like we may just have to. But isn't that what

446
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Speaker 4: this is really about, muss Isn't this is this review

447
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Speaker 4: just designed to actually put pressure on you guys to

448
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Speaker 4: lift your spending.

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Speaker 3: Quite possibly, Yes, indeed, and maybe there's a quid pro

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Speaker 3: quote to be had here, That's what other people are

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Speaker 3: saying here. What about the United States crude American nuclear submarines?

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Speaker 3: What about if they rotate through Australian waters Earth, Sydney,

453
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Speaker 3: up in Brisbane, Melbourne and so on. I mean, Australia

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Speaker 3: has no capacity to crewe these subs. We haven't got

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Speaker 3: the sub mariners to do that, you know, the obsolete

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Speaker 3: old subs we've got. Now it's just pie in the sky.

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Speaker 3: So maybe this is a chance to scrap the submarine

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Speaker 3: deal spend more money on more relevant defense. I mean,

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Speaker 3: have a look what Ukraine's doing with drones. For goodness sake.

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Speaker 3: Does Australia invest in iron dome technology for ports like Darwin?

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Speaker 3: That could be a jumping off point for US forces

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Speaker 3: to go and take on the are the Chinese. There's

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Speaker 3: a million ways to spend money. Is the current expenditure

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Speaker 3: worthwhile in the long term? I hope that's what is

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Speaker 3: going to come out of this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, fair point. Okay, Now, how did it go

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Speaker 4: down with you guys? The sanctioning of those couple of

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Speaker 4: Israeli ministers.

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Speaker 3: Well there's been muted. You know, I haven't heard the

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Speaker 3: opposition saying, oh it's dreadful and the government's very forthright.

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Speaker 3: Penny Wong said, these guys, these two ministers are the

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Speaker 3: most extreme I'm quoting out the most extreme proponents of

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Speaker 3: the unlawful and violent expansion of Israeli settlements. The Israeli

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Speaker 3: ambassador is not impressed. I mean, that's fair enough. But

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Speaker 3: Australia says, listen, these two ministers, and I was not

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Speaker 3: aware of this, but they recently joined a group marching

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Speaker 3: through the Muslim quarter of Jerusalem chanting death to Arabs. Well,

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Speaker 3: that's the way the Israeli government wants the conduct itself.

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Speaker 3: These two fellas deserve to have sanctions apply applied against them.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we are in good company New Zealand, Canada,

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Speaker 3: I think Great Britain and Norway have all signed this.

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Speaker 3: As long as Australia is on its own two people,

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Speaker 3: I mean, is it What does it say to the

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Speaker 3: rest of the world of these two ministers, these hard

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Speaker 3: right ministers in the Israeli government that net Nio has

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Speaker 3: stitched together because he can't form one of his own,

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Speaker 3: he has to have this coalition. What does it say

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Speaker 3: if the world turns a blind eye to what these.

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Speaker 16: Halfwits are saying?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's just it's dreadful, don't you think.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I have got no problem with sanctioning them whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: I think it's bad. I think, you know, I don't

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Speaker 4: even know if that's bloody enough at all. Hey Mauz,

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Speaker 4: thank you. I appreciate it. Murray Old's Australia correspondent, Gee,

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Speaker 4: wouldn't you love something to be done about Gaza to

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Speaker 4: sort that out? Heather, if you want to save some

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Speaker 4: money on water and Wellington, just go out into the

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Speaker 4: street with the bucket and scoop it up. I wonder,

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Speaker 4: thank you, Craig. I wonder if that's part of what

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Speaker 4: people what is unclear is why the cost of water

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Speaker 4: is going to go up so extraordinarily in Wellington. Maybe

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Speaker 4: part of part of the problem is just the extraordinary

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Speaker 4: patch up job that needs to happen. Listen, just really

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Speaker 4: quickly on the woolen carpets now, I would like to know,

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Speaker 4: because we've had this massive turnaround from KO Caying of Order,

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Speaker 4: the formerly known as Housing New Zealand. We they've decided no, no,

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Speaker 4: don't need the old, cheapy synthetic carpets. Now we just

508
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Speaker 4: go the go for the wall carpets, just you know,

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Speaker 4: blow the budget for the people in the tenants of

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Speaker 4: our houses. They reckon it's now cost effective to do it.

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Speaker 4: I want to know the cost because I don't believe this.

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Speaker 4: I do not believe for one second that somehow we're

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Speaker 4: found a way to make wool carpets as cheap as

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Speaker 4: synthetic carpets. I reckon there is dodgy as all hal

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Speaker 4: accounting going on here where they're taking into account things

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Speaker 4: like the life of the carpet. Do you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean? Where they're like, oh, oh, wool carpet lasts

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Speaker 4: twenty five thousand years as opposed to a synthetic carpet,

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Speaker 4: which only lasts five. So if you include that, suddenly

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Speaker 4: it's affordable. Anyway. We're going to talk to the KO

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Speaker 4: boss about that after the five as well. Thomas Coglan's

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Speaker 4: next sixteen away from five.

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Speaker 1: Politics was centric credit, check your customers and get payments certainty.

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Speaker 4: Thomas Coglan, the Herald's political editors with us Thomas Hallow

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Speaker 4: here A good afternoon, right, So what stern words did

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Speaker 4: Nikola have for Neil?

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Speaker 17: Well?

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Speaker 18: Yes, so we're back into day two, month three. I

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Speaker 18: think of the scrap over a y Adrian Or resigned

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Speaker 18: from the Reserve Bank. The bank came under serious criticism

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Speaker 18: for the fact that it's taken months to get these

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Speaker 18: official papers out explaining the reason for the resignation. Nicola Willis,

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Speaker 18: the Finance Minister, criticized that this morning, saying that she'd

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Speaker 18: spoken to the Bank's chairperson, Neil Quigley and expressed my

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Speaker 18: view that the Bank did not manage that official information

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Speaker 18: request well and I expect them to do better, which

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Speaker 18: was swiftly followed by a statement from Quigley himself which

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Speaker 18: acknowledged that quote. The Bank was later producing a response

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Speaker 18: to some of the oas we received on Adrianaw's resignation.

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Speaker 18: I regret that this delay occurred end quote. So an

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Speaker 18: interesting war of words there between the Finance Minister and

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Speaker 18: the Reserve Bank today which you don't often see.

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Speaker 4: Why is this what they're talking about, Thomas. Why are

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Speaker 4: they focusing on the delays in the OYA response when

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Speaker 4: clearly the bigger problem is that the chair of the

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Speaker 4: Reserve Bank has told multiple FIBs about this.

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Speaker 18: Yes, you are right, it does rather look like a

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Speaker 18: distraction and we don't really have we don't really have

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Speaker 18: anything firm from the government about whether whether they buy

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Speaker 18: that explanation around the fact that this was originally quickly

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Speaker 18: said that this was a personal decision to resign. Of course,

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Speaker 18: all decisions to resign are, to a certain extent, personal decisions,

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Speaker 18: and obviously.

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Speaker 4: One of Thomas one of many FIBs. Anyway, carry on.

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Speaker 18: But as we discovered us today it was it was

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Speaker 18: actually a probably better characterized I would personally, I think

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Speaker 18: the more accurate way of describing would be a professional

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Speaker 18: disagreement over the level of funding the bank was receiving,

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Speaker 18: which you know, I mean, that's a perfectly fine reason

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Speaker 18: to quit. Yeah, people quit over money all the time.

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Speaker 4: I just think, I think of the sins taking your time,

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Speaker 4: and I mean I don't love it, but dawdling on

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Speaker 4: the OI A response is the least of the sins here. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: we'll talk to Nicol about it when she's with us

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Speaker 4: on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Talk to me.

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Speaker 4: About this poll. We've got two poles now in the

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Speaker 4: last couple of weeks week in a bit that have

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Speaker 4: put our labor ahead of National. Now, granted, Thomas, it's tight,

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Speaker 4: but National should be worried about this, shouldn't they.

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Speaker 18: Yes, I mean used to. No, Obviously, it's never good

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Speaker 18: to be behind your main opposition opposition during any part

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Speaker 18: of the parliament when you're in government. Obviously Labor. Labor

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Speaker 18: was behind National for a bit in the twenty twenty

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Speaker 18: seventeen twenty twenty term, and a bit like this, this

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Speaker 18: Taxpayer's Union poll shows that the right block would still

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Speaker 18: be in government. It's just that National is behind Labor.

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Speaker 18: But obviously with those support parties, the National lead government

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Speaker 18: would be would still be in government. I actually would

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Speaker 18: counter that and think, you know, that was a pretty

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Speaker 18: tough budget. They rolled out that the pay equity stuff

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Speaker 18: was pretty controversial and the key we saver changes. You

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Speaker 18: know New Zealanders love the key we savers, and the

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Speaker 18: government really took an X to the key we save subsidies.

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Speaker 18: So I would think that if you could get away

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Speaker 18: with that level of cut and only lose a few

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Speaker 18: points in the polls. I mean, National fell about a

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Speaker 18: point in this Taxpayer Union poll today, it's on thirty

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Speaker 18: three point five. It was on thirty four point six

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Speaker 18: last month. That isn't actually that bad a slump considering

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Speaker 18: the level of political pain they could have been up

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Speaker 18: for given the amount of cutting in the budget.

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Speaker 4: This is true, but they were not popular even before that,

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Speaker 4: and should they not be worried about that.

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Speaker 18: Yes, I mean you it is, I mean every part

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Speaker 18: of political party at the moment, all that both the

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Speaker 18: major parties are relatively unpopular. Y, it's incredible that you

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Speaker 18: know we've been I've got the numbers in front of me,

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Speaker 18: and National's polling has had a three in front of

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Speaker 18: it for month to one month. I mean, I think

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Speaker 18: they've only once, in January twenty four they cracked the

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Speaker 18: forty percent threshold, which is basically where the Key government lived.

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Speaker 18: They lived above forty percent.

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Speaker 4: Right, I mean, it's such a good point that you make.

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Speaker 4: Thomas listen, thank you as always, I really appreciate your input.

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Speaker 4: Thomas Cogland, the Herald's political leedister, nine away from.

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Speaker 1: Five to day asking breakfast.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Carmy is coming back.

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Speaker 3: The need is called laughs, funny Jimmy carras whetherus do

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Speaker 3: you ever stop working?

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, this is show business. There'll be people

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Speaker 2: listening to this with proper jobs. Don't put in a shift.

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Speaker 2: There'll be people digging ditches with some headphones in going.

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Speaker 19: Oh he stands up? Does he stands up for two

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Speaker 19: hours a night and tells jokes? Oh, is there a

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Speaker 19: go fund? Me, can we help this poor feature. It's

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Speaker 19: like my issue with life is.

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Speaker 2: Work is more fun than fun.

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Speaker 19: Like if I have a night off, what am I doing?

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Speaker 19: I'm thin home, I don't come out and do a show.

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Speaker 19: It's such a joyful thing, and so much of it

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Speaker 19: is kind of interactive.

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Speaker 2: It's joyful though.

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Speaker 7: I work as much as I possibly can.

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Speaker 3: Back tomorrow at six am the mic asking breakfast with

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Speaker 3: a Veda News talk zib.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a fair point on the text, Heather.

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Speaker 4: The Key government lived above forty percent because they had

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Speaker 4: no partners on the right, with Act under one percent

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Speaker 4: at the time. Now, of course the right voters split.

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Speaker 4: You need to understand MMP blocks. That's right, Dave. You

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Speaker 4: make a fair point, but take New Zealand First out

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Speaker 4: of it, because New Zealand First is not strictly a

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Speaker 4: right wing party. New Zealand First is actually a center party.

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Speaker 4: So if you take them out of it, now you're

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Speaker 4: looking at a situation where actually the writer is not

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Speaker 4: it's not because Key governed without New Zealand First right

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Speaker 4: and he was still sitting pretty So now you're looking

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Speaker 4: at a situation where it's really not that flash, is it.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I feel like a lot of it's

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Speaker 4: got to do. It's just because they're so blinking uninspiring,

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Speaker 4: aren't they Anyway. I was just getting a little bit

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Speaker 4: cynical about the road road cone tip line today and

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Speaker 4: I thought for a minute there was bureaucratic nonsense. But

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Speaker 4: can I tell you that I have some excellent news

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Speaker 4: for you about the how this is working. So, as

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Speaker 4: I told you, in the last week or so, multiple

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Speaker 4: people are using my name to complain about the road cones,

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Speaker 4: and so I'm getting all the response emails and as

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Speaker 4: they come in, I'm going to tell you all of

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Speaker 4: the good news. So someone has used my name to

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Speaker 4: complain about some road cones in Albany, and as a result,

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Speaker 4: we have had road cones in Albany now removed. So

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Speaker 4: the road cones are on arn Way Drive and what

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Speaker 4: they're doing on Arnway Drive at number five is they

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Speaker 4: are replacing electrical switch gear. And the person who complained

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Speaker 4: complained because there were too many cones at the site.

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Speaker 4: And also the temporary traffic management has been in place

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Speaker 4: for longer than a week with no activity. So I'm

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Speaker 4: happy to tell you that Auckland Transport, so how it works.

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Speaker 4: Is that WorkSafe gets the complaint and they send it

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Speaker 4: to the relevant roading authority, this being Auckland Transport. Auckland

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Speaker 4: Transport has gone around to the site, has actually done

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Speaker 4: an on site inspection and has identified that the site

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Speaker 4: crew had added around thirty cones, more than was necessary

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Speaker 4: and more than was indicated in the authorized plan. They

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Speaker 4: have removed these additional cones. So there you go. Whoever

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Speaker 4: complained about the road cones in Albany, well done you. However,

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Speaker 4: I will say, okay, there is a bit of a

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Speaker 4: snag here. Somebody else, one of my friends has complained about.

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Speaker 4: This is the kind of thing that we've been talking

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Speaker 4: about in our boring little lives. She has complained about

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Speaker 4: the road cones on Kepper Road in Mission Bay. And

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Speaker 4: unfortunately what has happened is that Auckland Transport has not

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Speaker 4: done a sufficient job with this one. So Auckland Transport

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Speaker 4: simply emailed so that the complaint came in, it was

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Speaker 4: sent to Auckland Transport, and Auckland Transport simply emailed the

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Speaker 4: people who were doing the road roadworks at Kepa Road.

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Speaker 4: Is this is being Dempsey Would and Dempsey Wood just

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Speaker 4: emailed Auckland Transport back and said nay, now it's okay.

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Speaker 4: We've got enough road cones and not too many. It's

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Speaker 4: according to the plan. Now, this is where the real

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Speaker 4: trouble is going to occur. It has to be the plan.

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Speaker 4: If the plan is approved with too many road cones,

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Speaker 4: then there's not a lot you can do because the

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Speaker 4: clipboard warrior is turning up there with the plan and saying,

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Speaker 4: oh no, you own You said you wanted twelve road cones,

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Speaker 4: why are they fourteen? So so what they need to

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Speaker 4: do is at that very inception point they need to

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Speaker 4: make sure they're not overdoing it on the road cones. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: keep on using my name, keep on because because we're

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Speaker 4: going to keep getting these good news stories out there.

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Speaker 4: Every single road cone that has taken away is a

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Speaker 4: victory for all of us, isn't it. We're going to

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Speaker 4: go to Australia next on the old Ull Castile, have

696
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Speaker 4: a chat to the Lower Institute and then Wellington. One

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Speaker 4: on Earth? Are they paying as much water? New storgsv

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Speaker 4: What what witches?

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Speaker 2: Digging through the spin spins to find the real story?

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Speaker 3: Gooring?

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Speaker 1: It's heather due for the drive with one new Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Let's get connected.

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Speaker 4: Newstalgs B afternoon. It looks like there may be trouble

704
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Speaker 4: for the ORCHEST security pack. The US is reviewing it

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Speaker 4: to make sure it aligns with Donald Trump's America First

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Speaker 4: Agenda agenda now. Doctor Michael fully Love is the executive

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Speaker 4: director of the Loewe Institute in Australia.

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Speaker 2: Michael, Hello, Hello, Hello, Michael.

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Speaker 4: Central to the steel obviously are those hugely expensive submarines.

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Speaker 4: Is Australia still going to be buying those?

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Speaker 15: I think at this stage. I mean there's a The

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Speaker 15: Trump administration has called a thirty day review into the

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Speaker 15: AUCUS arrangement, but it's not that unusual for new governments

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Speaker 15: to review adeals that have been made by their predecessors.

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Speaker 15: I note that all of the most senior people around

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Speaker 15: President Trump are in favor of AUCUS, including his National

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Speaker 15: Security Advisor and Secretary of State Marco Rubio and his

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Speaker 15: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. The Australian government says it's full

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Speaker 15: steam ahead. We release polling today that shows that sixty

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Speaker 15: seven percent of Australians think it's in Australia's interests to

721
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Speaker 15: have to acquire nuclear powered submarine so I think at

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Speaker 15: this stage it's important not to freak out. And at

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Speaker 15: this stage, yes, I think it is going ahead.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I mean we had all just assumed that this

725
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Speaker 4: was their way of getting out of it. So you're

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Speaker 4: pretty confident it's going to keep going. What is the

727
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Speaker 4: reason then for the review? Is it to apply pressure

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Speaker 4: to Australia?

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Speaker 15: Well, I yeah, I mean it's a matter of speculation.

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Speaker 15: It's possible, of course that the review comes out in

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Speaker 15: a negative way for August. But when I spoke to

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Speaker 15: my Washington contacts this morning, for example, most people think

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Speaker 15: the Trump administration is unlikely to kill Aucus. They're more likely,

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Speaker 15: I think, to use this as leverage, perhaps to encourage

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Speaker 15: Australia to spend more on defense.

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Speaker 4: Right, And do you think that'll be enough to get

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Speaker 4: them to basically commit to this.

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Speaker 16: Pack to get the Trump administration.

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Speaker 4: Yes, if Australia was to lift its spending on defense,

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Speaker 4: which is clearly what Trump wants everyone basically to do,

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Speaker 4: would that be enough for Trump to commit to this pack?

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Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 15: I wouldn't present it quite in that way, Heather. I

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Speaker 15: think Australia. I think Australia should increase its defense spending.

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Speaker 16: The reason for that.

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Speaker 15: Is not to give a trophy to Donald Trump or

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Speaker 15: to win an argument over Ucust. But the reason for

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Speaker 15: that is that the world is much more dangerous than

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Speaker 15: it has been for a long time, and almost all

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Speaker 15: of our like minded countries and democracies around the world,

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Speaker 15: in response to the kind of behavior from Russia and China,

752
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Speaker 15: are increasing their defense budgets and improving the capabilities of

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Speaker 15: their defense force. So I think we should be doing

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Speaker 15: that in our own interest. I wouldn't say that's part

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Speaker 15: of the quid pro quo on UCUS from the Australian point.

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Speaker 4: Of view now, But notwithstanding whether it's the right thing

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Speaker 4: to do, and I agree with you obviously, I mean,

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Speaker 4: the world is a different place to what it was

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Speaker 4: thirty years ago. Let's say everybody should be thinking about this.

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Speaker 4: But notwithstanding whether it's the right thing to do. That

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Speaker 4: is clearly what Trump wants, isn't it.

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Speaker 15: Well, this is all speculation. We don't really know what

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Speaker 15: Trump thinks about this. You might remember that President Trump

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Speaker 15: was asked about August I think it was in February,

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Speaker 15: and he didn't recognize the acronym. So I don't I

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Speaker 15: suspect he doesn't have a settled view on Aucus, and

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Speaker 15: I think, to answer your question, it depends on on

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Speaker 15: how his officials present Aucust to him. If an August

769
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Speaker 15: skeptic like Elbridge Colby, who is running this review, says, look, Boss,

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Speaker 15: this is not in our interest because we don't have

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Speaker 15: enough submarines to go around, then mister Trump won't like it.

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Speaker 15: It won't appeal to the America First mentality. If, on

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Speaker 15: the other hand, his Secretary of State, his National Security advisor,

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Speaker 15: his Defense secretary say this isn't our interest because the

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Speaker 15: Australians are investing in the defense industrial base and this

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Speaker 15: will strengthen the alliance with Australia and there'll be more

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Speaker 15: allied capability to deter poor behavior by China, then that

778
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Speaker 15: feels like a win for an America First to like

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Speaker 15: President Trump. So I think a lot of it, as

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Speaker 15: with everything in this administration, a lot of it comes

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Speaker 15: down to President Trump's personal response, and we don't yet

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Speaker 15: know what that is on Aucust.

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Speaker 4: Michael, thanks for your time. I really appreciate it. Doctor Michael

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Speaker 4: fully Love, who's the executive director at the Loewe.

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Speaker 2: Institute here the Duplessy Allen.

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Speaker 4: New State homes will be fitted out with woolcarpet after

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Speaker 4: a turn around from coyinga order earlier this year. KO

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Speaker 4: was instructed by the government to go with wool over nylon.

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Speaker 4: We're practical and appropriate. Matt Crockett is the chief executive

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Speaker 4: at KO.

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Speaker 7: Hey, matt ow, good afternoon.

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Speaker 4: So is the wool costing list than the nylon?

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Speaker 7: Know that that basically it's cost neutral. But wall was

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Speaker 7: a great product, and you know, we were really pleased

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Speaker 7: with the pricing that came back.

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Speaker 4: And what does cost neutral mean?

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Speaker 7: Well, basically it's this very similar pricing to the nylon option,

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Speaker 7: and you know, was a great product.

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Speaker 4: So similar but slightly more.

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Speaker 7: Look very close, very close.

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Speaker 4: So how much does it cost per square meter?

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Speaker 7: I don't actually have that figure and that would actually

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Speaker 7: be commercially sensitive to share.

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Speaker 4: Mat Come on, So the cost of nylon for you

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Speaker 4: guys is forty three dollars eighteen per square meter? How

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Speaker 4: much more than that?

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Speaker 7: No, it's cost competitive, it really is. So we haven't

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Speaker 7: traded away you know, any financial thing. Well, no, we haven't.

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Speaker 7: So so we believe this is cost neutral for a

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Speaker 7: great product, and that's why we've gone with it.

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Speaker 4: How have you worked out cost neutrality? Is it because

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Speaker 4: you've factored in the longer life or something like that.

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Speaker 7: Look, we've looked at a number of different factors, but

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Speaker 7: the biggest thing has been like as a you know,

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Speaker 7: as I said in release media release earlier today, we

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Speaker 7: were really pleased that the quotes that came back were very,

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Speaker 7: very sharp on the pricing. And that's the core part

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Speaker 7: of it. Really.

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Speaker 3: When will we.

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Speaker 4: Find out I mean, if it's if it's if we're

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Speaker 4: able to find out how much it costs you guys

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Speaker 4: with nylon per square meter? When will we find out

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Speaker 4: how much the wall price is per square meter?

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Speaker 7: I can't answer that right now?

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Speaker 2: Will you tell us?

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Speaker 7: Well, there's no reason for us to hide it and

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Speaker 7: left there's something in there that's commercially sensitive and I

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Speaker 7: will just need to check with my team, and given

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Speaker 7: that we've just come through the process, I'd rather get

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Speaker 7: that clear before I say anything on the radio here.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Hey, thank you, Matt. I appreciate it. Matt Crockett,

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Speaker 4: Chief executive of KO. What did I tell you bs

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Speaker 4: that it's cheaper together? Do for c llen some good

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Speaker 4: news for TA. I am really I'm going to be

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Speaker 4: honest with you. I am I'm really, really really hoping

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Speaker 4: that the TV and Z Plus thing works. I really

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Speaker 4: wanted to work, because I think this is their great

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Speaker 4: hope for how they last as a business, reasonably big

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Speaker 4: deal for TV and Z and TV and Z Plus.

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Speaker 4: Apparently they're going to get some rugby on the thing,

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Speaker 4: so it's going to be the MPC. Apparently at the moment,

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Speaker 4: Sky TV is busy negotiating with New Zealand Rugby and

843
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Speaker 4: they have to have a free to air partner right

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Speaker 4: for all the rugby that they put on Sky TV

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Speaker 4: behind the payble, and their free to air partner is

846
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Speaker 4: going to be TV and Z Plus, And apparently it's

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Speaker 4: going to work a little bit like it does with

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Speaker 4: the netball, where the games are split between SkyTV and

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Speaker 4: TV and Zen and you've got a mix of live

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Speaker 4: games and delayed live games and highlights packages blah blah blah,

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Speaker 4: and it plays across Sky and then TV and Z

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Speaker 4: Plus starts next year. By the sounds of things, not

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Speaker 4: a lot of detail because it sounds like it's still

854
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Speaker 4: well and truly in negotiations. But this is good for

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Speaker 4: TV and Z Plus because we need more reasons to

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Speaker 4: go and look at that, and they've got excellent content there.

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Speaker 4: And on the sports front, they've got the breakers already,

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Speaker 4: they've got the netball and now you're gonna have some rugby.

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Speaker 4: How good is that quarter past?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 4: If you're going to field days? And why aren't you

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Speaker 4: going to field days? If you're going to field days,

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Speaker 4: you need to go to the Byd stand because these

864
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Speaker 4: guys have got a special field days. Five thousand dollars

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Speaker 4: your Way deal. What it means basically is you purcha

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Speaker 4: yourself and purchase yourself a new Byd either a Dolphin

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Speaker 4: or an at three seal Sea Line six, Sea Line

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Speaker 4: seven or my favorite, the Sharks six ute. Purchase that

869
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Speaker 4: in June and you will get five thousand dollars to

870
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 4: spend your way and you can use that money however

871
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 4: you want. You can upgrade the vehicle, personalize the vehicle

872
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 4: with a range of accessories, maybe put the money towards

873
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 4: the cost of the vehicle or the on road costs.

874
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 4: You still get yourself that six year warranty up to

875
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty thousand k's. You still get yourself

876
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 4: the eight years of roadside assistance field Days five thousand dollars.

877
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 4: Your way is valid for this month, the month of

878
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 4: June only. Terms and conditions apply. And if you want

879
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 4: to see why people rave about about these byds and

880
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 4: by people I mean myself and also the guys at

881
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 4: driven who just reviewed the ute which is the Shark.

882
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 4: If you want to see why people rave about them,

883
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Speaker 4: head to bydauto dot co dot mz for more information

884
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 4: and check out byd Auto at field Days cite j

885
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Speaker 4: thirty two.

886
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Speaker 2: Ever, do for Cellen.

887
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: Eighteen past five. More water trouble in Wellington. This time

888
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 4: it's the price of water.

889
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 20: Now.

890
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 4: It is estimated that the average Wellington household will be

891
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 4: paying an average of fifty dollars a week for water

892
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 4: within their rates bill from the second half of this year.

893
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 4: Wellington City councilor Tim Brown is with me.

894
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 21: Now, Hey, Tim, Hi, very well, thank you?

895
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 4: Is this for real? Is this really happening?

896
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 7: Yes? The average.

897
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 21: Water charge per rappairers have bit like twenty five hundred

898
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 21: dollars or twenty six hundred dollars.

899
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 4: Why is it so high?

900
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 21: Well, remember that if you live at Auckland, your water

901
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 21: charges don't cover store border, so our water charges cover

902
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 21: all three store water, sewerage and drinking water, and it

903
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 21: has approximately doubled in about the last five years. So

904
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 21: it's you know, was closer to where Auckland's were five

905
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 21: years ago. And it's quite hard to actually fully understand

906
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 21: why our network is in such bad condition, but it

907
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 21: is obviously in that bad condition because the money, you know,

908
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 21: we do know that the money is being spent fixing

909
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 21: lenks and such like, so you know, it's not like

910
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 21: the money is disappearing somewhere. It has actually been spent

911
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 21: fixing problems.

912
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 4: If we did apples for apples, and you know, Auckland

913
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 4: has had the storm water included and blah blah blah,

914
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 4: and we're all paying exactly the same thing. Would you

915
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 4: guys be paying in Wellington about what everybody's paying. Would

916
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 4: it be more or would it be.

917
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 21: Less that I'm not too sure. I think the I

918
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 21: think I saw from a media report that the average

919
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 21: water care charge is about one hundred dollars per month

920
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 21: per residentes or per connection, so it's about twelve hundred dollars.

921
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,959
Speaker 21: I would doubt that stormwatar would be the same. Again,

922
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 21: on top of that, so I would suspect that Wellington

923
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 21: is probably paying something more than Aukland at the moment.

924
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,919
Speaker 4: Okay, well listen, good luck with it, because you guys

925
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 4: just have constant troubles with the stuff, don't you. That's

926
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 4: Tim Brown, Wellington City councilor hey, by the way, the

927
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 4: chap who is running monash IVF has just quit today.

928
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 4: This is after the news yesterday that they put the

929
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 4: wrong embryo in the wrong woman twice, so probably inevitable

930
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 4: that that was the end of his job. And speaking

931
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 4: of which I think we may need the end of

932
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 4: somebody else's job. Let's talk about it next five to

933
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 4: twenty one.

934
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: Checking the point of the story, it's Heather Duplicy Ellen

935
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand let's get connected and youth talks.

936
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 4: They'd be five to twenty three. Look, I don't enjoy

937
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 4: saying what I'm about to say because personally I quite

938
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 4: like Neil Quigley. But I think that he needs to

939
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 4: quit as the chairer of the Reserve Bank simply because

940
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 4: I do not think that we can ever trust a

941
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 4: single word that comes out of that man's mouth. Again,

942
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 4: as the chair he has been to telling not just

943
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 4: one but quite a lot of fibbs about Adrianall's resignation.

944
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 4: So for a start, on the day that Adrian All quit,

945
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 4: you'll quit, You'll recall. Neil Quigley was the one who

946
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 4: held the press conference at the time. He said Adrian's

947
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 4: resignation was a personal decision. That is clearly not true.

948
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 4: Adrian Winoff now found out find out, packed a sad

949
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 4: and quit overfunding. Neil Quigley also said that there was

950
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 4: nothing that the government had said in the days before

951
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 4: that that caused Adrian or to quit. Not true. Adrian

952
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 4: and Nichola and actually Neil himself had a meeting about

953
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 4: the funding nine days before the resignation. Neil Quigley was

954
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 4: also asked whether there were any policy, conduct or performance

955
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 4: issues which are at the center of this resignation. He said,

956
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 4: there are no issues of that type that are behind

957
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 4: this resignation. Once again not true. He was asked what

958
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: happened because quote, Reserve Bank governors don't just up and resign,

959
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 4: and he said, quote there is a time when you think,

960
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 4: having achieved what you wanted to achieve, that's enough. Once

961
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 4: again not true. That's not why Adrian quit. Adrian quick

962
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 4: because he packed a tantrum, because he didn't get enough money. Now,

963
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 4: I do not know why Neil quickly decided that he

964
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 4: needed to tell porkies in order to defend Adrian Or.

965
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 4: I mean, I get the feeling that he has spent

966
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 4: a great deal of his time, unfortunately for him, spent

967
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 4: a great deal of his time trying to manage the

968
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 4: tantrums of our former toddler governor. And perhaps he just

969
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 4: got into a little bit of a pattern of butt

970
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 4: covering for the guy. He has suggested that he was

971
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 4: constrained in what he could say by Or's exit agreement.

972
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 4: But in that case, you simply say, look, I can't

973
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 4: say much because it's an employment agreement. And I think

974
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 4: we all will understand that, because we're all employees or employers,

975
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 4: and we're all constrained by the same law, so we

976
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 4: get it. But he didn't choose to do that, did he.

977
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 4: He chose to stand there and fibb to us. And

978
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 4: that means that next time he's up answering some tough questions.

979
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 4: I don't know if we're going to trust him, are

980
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 4: we already? Unfortunately for Neil, he's got quite a big

981
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 4: black mark against him. He was part of the money

982
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 4: printing team with aid all that stuffed up the economy,

983
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 4: and some already think that that is enough reason to

984
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 4: call for him to quit, never mind the fact that

985
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 4: he has now been busted telling straight out Porky's in public.

986
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 4: So if I was Neil Quigley, and he's got two options,

987
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 4: he can hang in there and see how it goes,

988
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 4: or he can quit while he's still ahead, and I

989
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 4: would do the latter.

990
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: Heather do for see Allen Heather?

991
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 4: Who cares if it's slightly more? This is read the

992
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 4: wool carpet. It's a win for New Zealand wool and

993
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 4: sheep farmers. Now, look, Jenny, I love wool like you

994
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 4: love wool. I love a natural fiber. I love buying

995
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 4: myself the natural fiber. I love dressing the baby in

996
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 4: the natural fiber. You know who wants to sleep under

997
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 4: an eylon blanket if you can sleep under a nice

998
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 4: wool blanket, do you know what I mean?

999
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 7: Like?

1000
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 4: I get it, and I want and I want to

1001
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 4: help the farmers out. But if we start doing this

1002
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 4: kind of nonsense, we're essentially heading down the same path

1003
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 4: as Muldoon, aren't we? And how did that end up

1004
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 4: for us? What Muldoon decided was we need to support

1005
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 4: these economy. We need to support these sectors and basically

1006
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 4: subsidize them. Without the government and the taxpayer propping them up,

1007
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 4: they can't do business. Well, if they can't do business

1008
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 4: without the government and the taxpayer propping them up, probably

1009
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 4: they shouldn't be doing business. I'm just saying maybe there's

1010
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 4: a different way of doing it. But basically forcing ko

1011
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 4: to prop up the sheep industry I don't think is

1012
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 4: a smart idea. Because we were there with Muldoon. How

1013
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 4: did that end? We all know not very well as

1014
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 4: much as we because if we do it for wool

1015
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 4: because we love wool, well, then what's stopping the Greens

1016
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 4: for doing it? I don't know, some weird thing that

1017
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 4: they are into and labor doing it for their weird

1018
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 4: pet project, and before you know it, the entire economy

1019
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 4: is doing it, isn't it Anyway? Listen, let's talk next

1020
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 4: to Paul Spoony. I love this man. He's always fascinating.

1021
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 4: He's going to talk us through what on earth we

1022
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 4: need to do to get fertility rates up again, or

1023
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 4: if we even do news talks.

1024
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: Eb after making the news, the newsmakers talk to Heather first,

1025
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: Kid's Heather Duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's

1026
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: get connected and news dogs they'd be.

1027
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 9: Ten seven through.

1028
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 4: No yet, should we be thinking about people's health? Free

1029
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 4: the wool carpet because wool is a natural fiber that

1030
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 4: buyo degrades, unlike synthetic carpets, which can shed microplastics into

1031
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 4: the environment. Blah blah blah and so on and so forth. Well, no,

1032
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 4: because that shouldn't be because if you take that to

1033
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 4: its logical conclusion, right, if you have to think about

1034
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 4: health when you're buying stuff as a country, then we

1035
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 4: should surely. I hope that we're making sure that every

1036
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 4: single meal that we serve the kids for lunch is organic.

1037
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 4: And you can see how that ends up just super

1038
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 4: super pricey. Anyway, we'll talk to the huddle about it.

1039
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 4: They're standing by right now. It's twenty four away from

1040
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 4: six now. The UN is warning that the whole world

1041
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 4: is facing a fertility crisis as is. According to a

1042
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 4: new report. It says that the cost of living, job

1043
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 4: in security, and housing costs are preventing people from having

1044
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,959
Speaker 4: as many kids as they actually want to. Now, Paul

1045
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 4: Spoonley is a Massy University sociologist. High pault Hi Heather Paul,

1046
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 4: I don't believe it's money. I believe I believe it

1047
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 4: is a lack of time. What do you think.

1048
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 6: I think it's a number of things. So traditionally it's

1049
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 6: been the level of women's education, so as that's gone

1050
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 6: to your babies, it's been the fact that more women

1051
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 6: are in the paid workforce. I think it's fertility. So

1052
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 6: fertility in the sense of being able to conceive children,

1053
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 6: because women are having children much later in life, and

1054
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 6: so as we see that first child, the age of

1055
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 6: the women for the first child is creeping up. And

1056
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 6: I think it is money.

1057
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 4: Do you think it is money?

1058
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 6: I do you know know the cost of having children.

1059
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 6: I've just looked at some data on the cost of

1060
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 6: having a child in New Zealand, and you do need

1061
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 6: to make a decision about whether you can afford a

1062
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 6: child or a house, or whether you can afford to

1063
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 6: have a child and see your career disrupted. That's particularly

1064
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 6: for millennials and generations said women in New Zealand, they're

1065
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 6: beginning to make those calculations.

1066
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 4: But Paul, you yourself point to the fact that Hungary

1067
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 4: said if you have four children and more you get

1068
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 4: income tax breaks, like no income tax needs to be paid.

1069
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 4: It didn't change the fertility rate. Sweden, which is far

1070
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 4: more generous than we are when it comes to childcare

1071
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 4: provisions and maternity and paternity leave, has the same fertility

1072
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 4: rate as we do. So is it really about money.

1073
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 6: Well, one of it is one of the factors. It

1074
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 6: is one of the factors. So if it's come through

1075
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 6: as a major factor in the last ten years, the

1076
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 6: cost of living, the cost of housing, the fact that

1077
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 6: you're not getting enough salary to cover off.

1078
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, but can I put something to you? Is

1079
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 4: this just what people say when you say to them,

1080
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 4: why have you only got two children and not seven hundred?

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Speaker 4: They say, Oh, it's cost But is that what is

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00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 4: what people say different to the reality, Like if you

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00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 4: actually then made it more affordable for them to have children,

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00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 4: would they actually.

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00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 6: No, they wouldn't. So what demographers agreed on, Heather, is

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00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 6: that pronatal policies by governments you've mentioned sweating Hungary actually

1087
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 6: don't make any difference to the decision about having children.

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Speaker 6: So governments are really scratching the head at this point,

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00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 6: thinking how can we stop fertility decline?

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Speaker 4: Why do we want to we stop at Paul? Why

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Speaker 4: don't we just accept that this is how it is?

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, I agree with that, Heather. The thing is

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00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 6: that what the UN report is which we're talking about here,

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00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 6: which has identified the cost of having children as being

1095
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 6: a factor, and a major international survey, they've said there

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00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 6: are two options. One of those is that we work

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00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,720
Speaker 6: longer so we're healthier. Why can't we continue to work

1098
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 6: after the age of sixty five, which many people in

1099
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 6: New Zealand are doing. And the second is we just

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00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 6: need to use immigration to top up the shortages will

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Speaker 6: occur in the workforce.

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Speaker 4: Paul, it is always wonderful to speak to you. Thank

1103
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Speaker 4: you so much for your time. That's Paul Spoonley, Massy

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00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 4: University sociologist.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle, we're New Zealand Southerby's International Realty find You're

1106
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: one of a kind list.

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Speaker 4: I've got to get you an update on some Trump

1108
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 4: related matters, but first of all, let's do the Huddle.

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Speaker 4: We've got Thomas Scrimer of Maximum Institute and Nick Leget

1110
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 4: of Infrastructure New Zealand. Hello you guys. Hello Nick, You've

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00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 4: got a lot of kids, haven't.

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Speaker 22: You, Well, yeah, more than you.

1113
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: How many of you guys?

1114
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 19: I got four?

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Speaker 22: And it's an interesting conversation, this isn't it, because it's

1116
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 22: actually I think the reason people don't have kids is

1117
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 22: because they start later and often like, we're selfish with

1118
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 22: our time. I mean, we've got four, so we're busy.

1119
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 22: But I can really understand people go, well, I only

1120
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 22: want to because they're easy to carry around and I

1121
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 22: can still have a bit of a life. So I

1122
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 22: think those are the sort of first world kind of choices.

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Speaker 22: But what we're looking at is massive population.

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Speaker 4: Before we get there. Before we get there, I'm not

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Speaker 4: finished talking about you. Does your wife work?

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Speaker 22: She works very part time? And how old has she's

1127
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 22: only just gone back to that three?

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Speaker 4: Okay? Yeah, okay, So it kind of kind of lends

1129
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 4: to my theory because I think what is going on,

1130
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 4: Nick is not actually so much of a financial problem.

1131
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 4: I think that and Paul kind of agreed with that.

1132
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,760
Speaker 4: I actually think that the problem here is women trying

1133
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 4: to work while having babies is just too bloody hard,

1134
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Speaker 4: and so as a result, they limit the number of children.

1135
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Speaker 4: And your wife came out of the workforce, had for

1136
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Speaker 4: and now is going back. Would you agree with my theory?

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Speaker 22: I think there's a lot to that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Now carry on with what you were going to

1139
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 4: say about demography and economics.

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Speaker 22: Well, I mean what we think about countries like China.

1141
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 22: You know, it's projected that China is going to have

1142
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 22: a massive population drop, and so it's not just you know,

1143
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 22: thinking about ourselves, thinking about our trading partners. It's thinking

1144
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 22: that this is going to be a worldwide trend. The

1145
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 22: question is what, if anything, can we actually do about it. Obviously,

1146
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 22: being in the infrastructure sector, you know, you plan to

1147
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 22: build infrastructure that meets growing population needs. And when the

1148
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 22: population isn't going to grow or it's going to it's

1149
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 22: going to evolve differently, you have to start asking some

1150
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 22: long term questions about where you plan to put your

1151
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 22: money in your investments.

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Speaker 4: Thomas, I agree with Nick, and I think we just

1153
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 4: need to accept that this is what the world is like,

1154
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 4: this is what the Western world. Even we'll bring in migrants,

1155
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 4: they will simply start to live like we do as

1156
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 4: they become wealthier and more selfish like us. And I

1157
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 4: think we just need to reorganize our economies to cope

1158
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 4: with the fact that we're just not going to keep

1159
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 4: replacing ourselves. Fair or no.

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Speaker 20: Well, I think it's a reasonably good prediction about what

1161
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 20: is likely to happen. I don't know that we should

1162
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 20: be complacent or enthusiastic about that. I mean, I don't

1163
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 20: know about you, Heather, but many of my favorite people

1164
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 20: were babies once. Humans are good. This is a this

1165
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 20: is a cultural challenge we have where we've so often

1166
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 20: talked about family and kids in negative ways, whether it's

1167
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 20: in conversation about you know, humans effect on the environmental

1168
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 20: just the sacrifice of time, as if children are just

1169
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 20: a burden. Humans are great. I like humans, but we.

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Speaker 4: Also have to stop having babies. Thomas.

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Speaker 7: We can't.

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Speaker 3: I mean that is why we have to.

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Speaker 20: Stop having babies, because I come from a long line

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00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 20: of people who had babies. This is how the world

1175
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 20: works here that you know this.

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Speaker 4: You're a mother, you can't just the planet can only

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Speaker 4: hold so many of us. I don't think it's a bad.

1178
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 20: Risk of us having too many babies. Like you say,

1179
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 20: we have this demographic collapse warning from the UNN who

1180
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 20: are the last people to realize this.

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Speaker 4: Only because economies like this, Thomas, we can totally stop

1182
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 4: having that we can. We can reach a plateau and

1183
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 4: we can just pop along with five million if that's

1184
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Speaker 4: what we want to.

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Speaker 20: Why not, well we can. I just don't think it's

1186
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 20: good to view the world in terms of decline. Humans

1187
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 20: can go forward and grow and that's great.

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Speaker 4: You don't have any kids though, way, Thomas, you don't

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00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 4: have any kids, do you know?

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Speaker 20: But you know the family betting markets are out, but

1191
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 20: I think I'm putting the money one of my sister

1192
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Speaker 20: in laws actually, so don't want to scales though.

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Speaker 4: Nick, I don't want to leave Thomas with the impression

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Speaker 4: that having children is negative. Isn't it a wonderful delight

1195
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 4: to have children?

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Speaker 22: It's fantastic. I mean, you could do a whole huddle

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00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 22: on you know how great it is to have kids

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Speaker 22: and what a delight and the joy they are. But

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Speaker 22: I also reckon New Zealand should plan to grow. I

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Speaker 22: think we should have a strategy to grow because five

1201
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 22: million people. Okay, it's fine, but actually.

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Speaker 4: All migrants, Nick, are you.

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Speaker 5: Cool with that?

1204
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 21: It's fine?

1205
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 22: Yeah, I am cool with that because we've got to

1206
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 22: grow and we've got to grow our economy. And you know,

1207
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Speaker 22: when you look at the impact the positive impact that

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Speaker 22: migrants have over time on innovation, on starting businesses, on

1209
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 22: growing economies. It's really positive. And actually I want New

1210
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 22: Zealand to be wealthire and I think having more people

1211
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 22: living here, we've got to really plan that and decide

1212
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 22: where and how we grow. I think that's a good thing.

1213
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 22: So yeah, I'm in favor of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I look to be honest, I don't mind us

1215
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 4: growing ourselves a little bit. I think the others can

1216
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 4: stop growing a week, but I will take a break.

1217
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Speaker 4: Come back shortly sixteen away from six.

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Speaker 2: The huddle with New Zealand South Beast International.

1219
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: Realty achieve extraordinary results with unparallel reach.

1220
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Speaker 4: Right, you're back of the huddle, Thomas Scrimger and Nick Legett. Now, Thomas,

1221
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 4: what do you think of the wool carpets?

1222
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 20: Oh well, I'm in two minds about it. I heard

1223
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 20: what you were saying before about Robert Muldoon coming back

1224
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 20: subsidizing industries, and I think that's a real concern. And

1225
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Speaker 20: I would note that the farmers, whenever they're kind of

1226
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 20: crying out for New Zealanders to buy New Zealand made products,

1227
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 20: they're not buying New Zealand made tractors, and they're not

1228
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 20: buying New Zealand made fertilizer. But here, though I'm going

1229
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 20: to annoy you, I'm gonna trust kaying Aura when they

1230
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 20: say it's cost neutral. They're building something to own in

1231
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 20: the long term, you know, lifetime cost they might come

1232
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 20: out Even so, wool carpets are a good product.

1233
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Speaker 4: Thomas, why would you trust Ko on anything?

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Speaker 20: I'm an irrepressible optimist.

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Speaker 9: You know.

1236
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 20: Bl English is review into them, you know, and they

1237
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 20: had some cost blowouts, but no one ever suggested they're

1238
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 20: cost blowouts were due to buying two higher quality products.

1239
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 20: The management it was the cost of land. So if

1240
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 20: wall is a good product and they're owning it for

1241
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 20: the next I think if.

1242
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Speaker 4: You're trying to contort your mind into this so because

1243
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 4: you like the wool, and remind me, remind me to

1244
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 4: never trust you on anything to do with finances. Again,

1245
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 4: if this is how gullible you are, Nick, what do

1246
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 4: you think?

1247
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 22: I have a real problem with political decrees driving what's

1248
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 22: hobst where it comes to operational matters. It's how we

1249
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 22: get ourselves into problems in this country. Look, once again,

1250
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 22: I'll go back to infrastructure because you know. Do you

1251
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 22: want politicians deciding where things go and how things are built? No,

1252
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 22: you don't. You want politicians to set the broad agenda,

1253
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 22: the themes, and you want them to tick off the money.

1254
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 22: But actually you want experts to work in the And

1255
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 22: I just think that this stuff needs to be about

1256
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 22: the judgment of people who know best, those who build

1257
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 22: a bit and then manage these properties and understanding how tenants.

1258
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 22: You know, how we're in Errika is. So I think

1259
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 22: we should trust people. I think you know. And I

1260
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 22: want to say, get politicians out of day to day

1261
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 22: operations and directing proceedings. That's not what they're there for.

1262
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Speaker 22: We need to get back to some traditional governance versus management.

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Speaker 4: Could not agree with you more, Thomas. Have you ever

1264
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 4: tried to clean a wool carpet when somebody spills something

1265
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Speaker 4: on it?

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Speaker 20: I have not, Heather.

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Speaker 4: I just want to say, it's not as easy as

1268
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 4: cleaning a nylon carpet. And I don't know if you

1269
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 4: know what the inside of the State House sometimes looks like,

1270
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 4: but a nylon carpet's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: Now.

1272
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Speaker 4: Thomas thoughts on Neil Quigley and whether he should retain

1273
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 4: his job after all the porkies he told.

1274
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Speaker 20: And I think it's pretty precarious at the moment. Like

1275
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 20: government always relies on trust, but the Reserve Bank especially

1276
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 20: so when they do their announcements about interest rates and stuff,

1277
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Speaker 20: they labor over the idea of here's where we think

1278
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 20: we're going. You know you can trust us. And Neil

1279
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 20: Quigley's description of how Adrian or departed it's certainly an

1280
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 20: economic with the truth, shall we say? But I think

1281
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 20: that the bigger question is, you know, should Nicola Willis

1282
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 20: be considered should Nichola Willis consider inviting Neil Quiggley to

1283
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 20: resign for personal reasons?

1284
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 4: Because you for personal because it's hard for her to fire,

1285
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 4: and may like I don't think that this meets the

1286
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 4: threshold for her giving in the sack? Does it?

1287
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 18: Well?

1288
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 2: Why not?

1289
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 4: Because I think if you look at the Reserve Bank Act,

1290
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 4: it's something it takes, something like misconduct or failure to

1291
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 4: do the job. And I'm not sure that you can

1292
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 4: quite say that telling the public Poorlkey's is one of

1293
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 4: those things.

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Speaker 20: Ah So, then if Nichola Willis can't invite him to resign,

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Speaker 20: I'm not sure why I should be telling him.

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Speaker 4: To because I trust you on this one.

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Speaker 20: I can run the economy.

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Speaker 4: Well, what she was saying before.

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Speaker 20: Tim said that I would be allowed to resign my

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Speaker 20: job if I took up here to deserve bank, because

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Speaker 20: I could probably with the gap in wages, fund my

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Speaker 20: replacement for a year and come out all right.

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Speaker 4: I think that's actually quite good maths from him.

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Speaker 22: What do you think, Nick, I was kind of, Oh,

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Speaker 22: look to speaking of contortionists. He's got an employee who's

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Speaker 22: rights and privacy has to respect, and he's got a

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Speaker 22: minister who's really you know, whose policies of really or

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Speaker 22: decisions have caused the employee to resign. He's caught in

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Speaker 22: the middle. But actually, the way you summed it up,

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Speaker 22: he didn't actually have to front a press conference. He

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Speaker 22: didn't have to say anything. In fact, I don't know

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Speaker 22: why they took you know, they went out there and

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Speaker 22: made a big deal when actually they had nothing to say.

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Speaker 22: And so I do I feel sorry for Neil quickly.

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Speaker 22: He is caught in the middle. I don't actually think

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Speaker 22: he should resign, but I do think we need to

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Speaker 22: consider in roles like this, you know that people have

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Speaker 22: our ability to communicate properly, and you know don't feel

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Speaker 22: that they have to say everything. I mean, there's an

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Speaker 22: employment relationship here. You can't comment on that, so don't

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Speaker 22: try to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely all right, guys, it's been brilliant to talk

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Speaker 4: to you. Thank you very much and go back to

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Speaker 4: your troop of children. That's Thomas Scrimger of the Maximum

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Speaker 4: Institute and Nick Legget Infrastructure, New Zealand. Eight away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on my Art Radio powered by News.

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Speaker 3: Talks that be.

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Speaker 4: Heather. Have you ever tried to repair nylon carpet that

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Speaker 4: has had the tenants putting the ghds on it and

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Speaker 4: trying to iron their clothes on it. It's impossible. It

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Speaker 4: has to be replaced. Wool carpet is the way to go. Honestly,

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Speaker 4: I always baffles me the stupid things that people try

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Speaker 4: to do, Like do you know some people try to

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Speaker 4: put will Will in the will jerseys in the dryer?

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Speaker 4: How do you think that goes? Honestly, I think people

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Speaker 4: should live their lives according to Google before they do.

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Speaker 4: Were they trying to put a shirt down?

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Speaker 3: And then? Ah?

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Speaker 4: Anyway, whatever is.

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Speaker 17: This text of saying it's safe for me to attempt

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Speaker 17: to iron my shirt with a GHD on a wall carpet.

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Speaker 4: It would be better if you absolutely all.

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Speaker 17: Right, sweet yeah, solf, I'm going to If I'm going

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Speaker 17: to do it on the floor, then I should check

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Speaker 17: what kind of carpet it is.

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Speaker 4: Wow, we forget about the stuff that you teach your kids.

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01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 4: Say that if people don't teach their kids, they have

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Speaker 4: to learn the hard way. Hither are your theory re

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Speaker 4: women in work and it's been too hard to do both?

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Speaker 4: Is bang on? Thanks for saying what most women are thinking. Hither,

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Speaker 4: we cannot save up for retirement if we have more

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Speaker 4: than one or two children, Celia, we cannot pay for

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01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 4: your retirement. If you don't have two plus children, you've

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Speaker 4: got to have You've got to have three children in

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Speaker 4: order to pay for your retirement. Did you know that anyway? Listen?

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump? Donald Trump says that the China Deal has done,

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Speaker 4: which has been very very good news today for those

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Speaker 4: of us hoping that he doesn't stuff up the world's

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Speaker 4: economy completely. He's doing a pretty good job of trying

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Speaker 4: to do it. Though. He says that the China Deal

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Speaker 4: has done, He and she just needs signed the thing off.

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Speaker 4: Trouble is, markets don't look like they believe him. Pretty

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Speaker 4: mixed trading today on the Asia Pacific markets. And you

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Speaker 4: can't really blame the markets, can you, Because the last time,

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Speaker 4: every time the markets get excited about what Donald Trump says,

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Speaker 4: turns out that the opposite actually happens. Also on Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump News, apparently JD. Vance and Susie Wiles had to

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Speaker 4: get involved in the lover's tiff in order to sort

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Speaker 4: this out. First of all, JD. Vance and Susie Wiles

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Speaker 4: had to call and it sounds like it was a

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Speaker 4: conference cause basically an intervention, isn't it. You know, when

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Speaker 4: you're having a bad breakup and then people need to

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Speaker 4: intervene and be like, hey, you know you're gonna regret it.

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Speaker 4: You really love him? Are you sure you want to

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Speaker 4: do this? Well, that's what Jadie Vance and Susie Wiles

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Speaker 4: had to do with Elon. They had to call him

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Speaker 4: up and say, probably going to regret this later, can

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Speaker 4: you make up with Don? And then they set up

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Speaker 4: a phone call and it sounds like Don then spoke

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Speaker 4: to Elon and the rest, as they say, is history.

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Speaker 4: That's according to insiders who've spoken to the Wall Street Journal.

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Speaker 4: So there you go. That's how we mended the situation. Now,

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Speaker 4: if you love locking up the krim and who doesn't,

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Speaker 4: good issue news for you who we're going to lock

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Speaker 4: up a lot of them. May about another four thousand

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Speaker 4: or so in the next ten years. The prison population

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Speaker 4: is going to go from ten and a half thousand

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Speaker 4: to about fourteen point two something or other. Problem is

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Speaker 4: we don't have the space. So what are we gonna

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Speaker 4: do about it? We're gonna chat to the Corrections Association

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Speaker 4: with us next Newstalk to b S we can only

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Speaker 4: ad on away god nories, not to.

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Speaker 9: Celebrate un.

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Speaker 1: Away, keeping track of where the money is flowing.

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Speaker 2: The Business Hour.

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Speaker 1: With hither Duplessyl and Theirs, Insurance and investments, Grow your wealth,

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Speaker 1: Protect your Future.

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Speaker 2: News Talks at B.

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Speaker 4: Evening coming up for the next hour. Sam Dickey is

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01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 4: going to talk us through all of the IPOs available

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Speaker 4: at the moment. Jamie McKay at Field Days and Liam

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01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 4: dan on the retail numbers out today and it's not

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Speaker 4: that flash unfortunately, seven past six Now it looks like

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Speaker 4: the government is going to have to get a move

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Speaker 4: on and build some more prisons. There's a new report

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Speaker 4: from the Ministry of Justice that predicts that the prison

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Speaker 4: population is going to grow by thirty six percent just

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Speaker 4: over the next ten years. Floyduplassy is the national president

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Speaker 4: of the Corrections Association. Hey Floyd, good evening, Either why

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Speaker 4: so many prisoners? Are we just locking them up more?

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Speaker 23: Yes, we're just locking them up more. There was six

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Speaker 23: ord years ago there was or predictions that the prison

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Speaker 23: population was going to go to those numbers. It was

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Speaker 23: a time where National had obviously predicted and planned to

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Speaker 23: build some prisons that was scaled down under labor and

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01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 23: now obviously with national backend, they've got that focus on

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Speaker 23: crime and focus on dealing with what's happening at in

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Speaker 23: the public and with that comes an increase in prison population.

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Speaker 4: How close to capacity are we at the moment?

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Speaker 23: At the moment, we're sitting in about ninety five percent capacity,

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Speaker 23: So it's not looking good at all. There is obviously

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Speaker 23: slight hope in the very very short term with Waycarrier

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Speaker 23: coming online within the next two to three months and

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Speaker 23: that'll give us another five hundred bids, so that'll increase

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Speaker 23: it very slightly. But even if we incorporate that, we're

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Speaker 23: still sitting at around that ninety percent capacity immediately, let

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Speaker 23: alone any small increase that's predicted over the next twelve months,

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Speaker 23: and we'll be full within twelve to eighteen months.

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Speaker 4: Brilliant. Oh just twelve to eighteen months, did you say, Well, that's.

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Speaker 23: What our predictions are, given that even with that, we're

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Speaker 23: only sitting in about a ten percent buffer, right, So there's.

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Speaker 4: No way we can build another prison in twelve to

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Speaker 4: eighteen months. So we're going to have to start looking

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Speaker 4: at double bunking, aren't we.

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Speaker 23: There's definitely going there need to be some serious plans.

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Speaker 23: We have been invited by the department to meet with

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Speaker 23: them next week to start looking at what options are

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Speaker 23: on the time and what can we do. Yeah, but

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Speaker 23: there is no question obviously at the moment, there is

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Speaker 23: a plan to build the new prison down in christ

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Speaker 23: which means now that's only going to add another turn

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Speaker 23: of forty beads. But even that they announce at the

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Speaker 23: beginning of the year, they've got a completion date of

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Speaker 23: twenty twenty nine. So building these things it is just

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Speaker 23: takes far too long and we're going to need to

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Speaker 23: do some serious planning now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Floyd, listen, thanks for talking us through

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Speaker 4: to appreciate this. Floyd Duplassy Corrections Association National President Yeather

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Speaker 4: do for Cellen to skip the carpet used the flagstones, Well,

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Speaker 4: I guess around the cleaning problem, doesn't it. Also, I'm

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Speaker 4: getting a lot of texts from people saying, oh, I'm

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Speaker 4: allergic to wool. Oh you don't want to be checking

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Speaker 4: the wool and the old ko houses because what about

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Speaker 4: the state house tenants are allergic to wall or what

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01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,600
Speaker 4: about the woll bugs? Wol bugs are going to have

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Speaker 4: a feast. Well, you solve all of those problems with

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Speaker 4: the flagstones, don't you. So Yeah, not the stupidest idea.

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Speaker 4: But it's all about price. I just want to know

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Speaker 4: they can do it cheaper.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: You will have noticed, of course, speaking of price, that

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Speaker 4: undoubtedly by now your electricity bill has gone up. And

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Speaker 4: that's that's something to behold it isn't it. If you

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Speaker 4: want to know exactly how much the gas is contributing,

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Speaker 4: let me run you through the numbers, because we've got

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Speaker 4: the government data for the first three months of this year.

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Speaker 4: Residential gas prices up by eighteen point five percent, commercial

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Speaker 4: gas prices up by twenty point five percent, industrial gas

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Speaker 4: prices fourteen point nine percent and wholesale prices twelve point

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Speaker 4: eight percent. Obviously, most of this will be down to

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Speaker 4: supply and demand, and we've had a nineteen percent drop

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Speaker 4: in gas production in the last three months. So therego.

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Speaker 4: That's what's going on with gas at the moment. It's

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Speaker 4: not not pretty at all, is it.

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Speaker 2: Six'.

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Speaker 1: Eleven it's The Heather Duplicy Allen Drive Full show podcast

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Speaker 2: Zeppi crunching the numbers and getting the.

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Speaker 1: Results It's Heather Duplicy allen with The Business hour and

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Speaker 1: mass insurance and, Investments grow your, Wealth protect your future used.

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Speaker 4: Talks that'd Be jamie mckaie out of field days WITH.

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Speaker 4: Us shortly it's fourteen past six And Liam, dan The

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Speaker 4: herald's business editor at largest WITH us ilam good. Ever,

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Speaker 4: okay so what are you expecting for THE gdp?

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Speaker 11: Number, well WOULDN'T i have thought it would be that?

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Speaker 11: Flash but looking through all the economists, forecasts they've just

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Speaker 11: they've perked up a bit and they're all they've all

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Speaker 11: upgraded their forecast for the quarter to zero point seven

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Speaker 11: percent for the, quarter which is the same as we

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Speaker 11: had in the last quarter of twenty twenty, four and

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Speaker 11: which is pretty. Good so The Reserve bank had picked

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Speaker 11: zero point four for the first, quarter and most of

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Speaker 11: the economists were thinking the same. Thing but we had

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Speaker 11: some fairly good numbers business sort of business finance and

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Speaker 11: business employment numbers On, monday so they just they think

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Speaker 11: it might be a bit. Stronger but we do have

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Speaker 11: to bear in mind that that first, quarter it seems

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Speaker 11: like a long time ago, now goes right up To

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Speaker 11: Donald trump's Liberation, day but not not you, know doesn't

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Speaker 11: capture how everyone was feeling afterwards when confidence took a

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Speaker 11: bit of a. Knock so, yeah it's possible it's actually

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Speaker 11: slowed down a bit since.

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Speaker 4: Then even why are they lifting the, Forecasts.

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Speaker 11: Well they're just looking at some of what they call

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Speaker 11: the high frequency. Data so manufacturing, production that sort of

1507
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:24,799
Speaker 11: thing was slightly better than they. Expected obviously everyone's everyone's

1508
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 11: talking about the rural sector going great, guns but that

1509
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 11: takes some time to come. Through but, yeah just a

1510
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 11: little bit more upbeat around some of the manufacturing and

1511
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 11: some of that core business.

1512
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 2: Stuff so that's.

1513
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 11: Positive but you, know as we sort of sort of,

1514
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:45,520
Speaker 11: day you, know retail spending still really flat to. Backwards

1515
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 11: so the consumer, end you, know for those of us

1516
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 11: in the cities and in retail and, hospitality that's where

1517
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 11: the economy is really still doing it. Tough it all

1518
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 11: kind of matters in a, way even though it's, historic

1519
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 11: because we're talking about whether we get another rate cut

1520
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 11: On july, ninth and the sort of feeling as if

1521
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 11: it's landed at zero point seven percent for the quarner

1522
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 11: and it's better than The Reserve bank, expected they might

1523
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 11: decide to pause and just wait and see and maybe

1524
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 11: cut again In.

1525
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 4: August, yeah perhaps. So and in this retail number that

1526
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 4: we've got out, today which is an all together, flash

1527
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 4: can we put most of it down to the petrol

1528
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 4: prices a.

1529
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 2: Good chunk of.

1530
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 11: It but even when you strip out the fact that

1531
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 11: petrol prices were, cheaper you, know you still when you

1532
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 11: look at nominal, terms you've still got some inflation going.

1533
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 11: On so still some of those core retail sectors pretty

1534
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 11: much like it was zero point two, down which is

1535
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 11: basically flat but still not. Great, anyone you, know in

1536
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 11: the retail sector or the hospitality sector looking for signs

1537
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 11: that we've turned a corner, there it's just hasn't happened.

1538
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,719
Speaker 11: Yet seems to be taking, forever doesn't?

1539
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 4: It, yeah. Totally, hey thank you very, Much, LIAM i

1540
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 4: really appreciate your. Time It's Lim, dan The herald's business

1541
01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 4: entitor at. Large how you want to hear get a

1542
01:13:58,720 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 4: load of?

1543
01:13:59,000 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 2: This?

1544
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 4: Okay this is this is From tim Herether are you

1545
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 4: aware how government procurement. Works tenders for products and services

1546
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 4: are evaluated and evaluated on weighted. Attributes tenders are evaluated

1547
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 4: on price and no. Price the percentage for the price

1548
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 4: versus non price could be fifty to, fifty but sometimes

1549
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 4: seventy thirty or thirty seventy as, in it's not one

1550
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 4: hundred percent price, right price only makes a proproportion of

1551
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 4: what they're, considering maybe thirty, percent maybe seventy, percent maybe fifty.

1552
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 4: Percent price is pretty, simple, obviously but the non price

1553
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 4: can be evaluated on all sorts of, criteria things like,

1554
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:36,440
Speaker 4: sustainability maori or pacifica influence broader outcome using local. Resources

1555
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 4: it can be pretty ambiguous and very. Subjective you can

1556
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 4: make a tender deliver whatever outcome you. Want rarely in

1557
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,879
Speaker 4: the INDUSTRY i, work And i've had lots of experience

1558
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 4: with this type of, thing and the cheapest product service

1559
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 4: offering does not always win a. Tender there can be,

1560
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 4: one hundreds of thousands and millions of dollars difference at.

1561
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 4: Times if taxpayers knew how this all, worked they would be.

1562
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,719
Speaker 4: HORRIFIED i think if we knew exactly how this ko

1563
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:04,440
Speaker 4: wool carpet one was, working we would probably be, horrified

1564
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 4: don't You.

1565
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,560
Speaker 2: Heller duper c allen A.

1566
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 4: Sunscreens what is wrong with these? PEOPLE i cannot? That

1567
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 4: why can they not get this? Right, so once, again

1568
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:19,759
Speaker 4: for the gazillionth year in a, row we have DODGY

1569
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,879
Speaker 4: spf claims that have been Put is this from consumer?

1570
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 4: Again this? One this is From it's always consumer, like

1571
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 4: it's always the same. People it's always consumer who go

1572
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 4: let buy, that let's test. It oh, no the S

1573
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 4: spf is off and we just keep doing. It no

1574
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 4: one improves. It so there are eleven sunblocks that are

1575
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 4: for sale In New zealand that have failed to meet

1576
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 4: their LABELED spf. Claims it's pretty much all the Bicknames Banana,

1577
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 4: Boat Bondi, Sands, Neutrogena, Nivia. Sunbam you've owned, one if not,

1578
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 4: many of. These these are the ones that have caught my.

1579
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 4: Attention ultraviolet's lean SCREEN spf fifty was found to prove

1580
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 4: if i'd only IS p four in one lab test

1581
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 4: and only IS pf five in a second lab. Test

1582
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 4: that's not very, flash is?

1583
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 2: It?

1584
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 4: Like if you're putting on the fifty and then you're

1585
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 4: going out there for three or four, hours, girl you're

1586
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 4: coming in like a, lobster because you've only had four

1587
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 4: or five on. You what A Shoka nivia Sun protect

1588
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:23,799
Speaker 4: And Moisture locke and sun bum IS pf fifty plus,

1589
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 4: lotion both tested at IS pf. Forty, NOW i don't

1590
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 4: know about, you But i'm a bit lucy goosey on this.

1591
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 4: Stuff so you, know if you say you're a fifty

1592
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 4: but you're a, FORTY i, Mean i'm Think i'm getting

1593
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 4: eighty percent of what you. Said So i'm kind of

1594
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 4: a bit chill about that Because i'm Not i'm not

1595
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,719
Speaker 4: rocking some sort of you, know Like germanic white skin

1596
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 4: that's Gonna i'm. Not i'm not at risk of. Crisping

1597
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 4: SO i Feel i'm a bit more chilled than maybe

1598
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,600
Speaker 4: The german would be about, it because she, is you,

1599
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 4: know you want to see. Her it's reflective banana. Boat don't, Lie,

1600
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 4: laura it's Very it's because it's because you're using this.

1601
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 4: One this is why you're in. Trouble The Laroche Poe

1602
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 4: anthelios wetskin sunscreen IS p fifty came in at a seventy. Two,

1603
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 4: NOW i don't know about, you but that would rip my,

1604
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 4: ninety wouldn't it? You Because i'm Already BUT i begrudge

1605
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 4: having to put the fifty, on don't? YOU i GO

1606
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,679
Speaker 4: i go fifty for the wei one because he doesn't

1607
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 4: have a choice in the, matter AND i don't want

1608
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 4: him to blame me for bad parenting decisions later in.

1609
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 4: Life but for, ME i got a thirty BECAUSE i

1610
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 4: STILL i, STILL i still feel LIKE i need a

1611
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 4: bit of that VITAMIN. D AND i don't want to

1612
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 4: be feeling depressed all summer, long you, know from a

1613
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 4: lack of VITAMIN. D SO i go for the. Thirty

1614
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 4: but how how much would it rip your ninety if you, thought,

1615
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 4: Gosh i'm just not browning up Like i'm putting on my.

1616
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 4: Fifty i'm being responsible And i'm getting a bit of

1617
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 4: sun And i'm so. Sad i'm, sad so. Depressed not browning.

1618
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:51,680
Speaker 4: Up it's because you got the seventy two on your,

1619
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 4: skin haven't?

1620
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 3: You that's.

1621
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 4: Why, anyway what blows my mind about this is that

1622
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 4: every single year we do, This every single year we

1623
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 4: run these people down and you can't Do you had one,

1624
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 4: job which is to put the right stuff in the right,

1625
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 4: container and you're not doing. It and then every single

1626
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 4: year they just keep on doing, it isn't it? Weird

1627
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 4: six on The Rural.

1628
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 1: Report with HIM Msd Animal health home of Rotovec corona

1629
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: ends it's leading calf scars.

1630
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 2: Vaccine six twenty.

1631
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 4: Three jamie McKay hosts of The country With us From Field.

1632
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 4: Days Hey, Jamie Hello, heather how much fun are you having.

1633
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 2: A lot of?

1634
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 14: Fun i'm about to go out for a night on

1635
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 14: the trom with The country.

1636
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 3: Team are all in the? Background is that them?

1637
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 2: Laughing smoothing?

1638
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 14: Away now they're laughing at me for talking about a

1639
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 14: night on the. Trom but, look, Honestly thursday night In

1640
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 14: hamilton at Field days is as big as it. Gets

1641
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 14: if you're from if you were right And gore Or

1642
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 14: River star like.

1643
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 4: Me, yeah this is a big. Lights now where do

1644
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 4: you got to?

1645
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 3: Go big?

1646
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 2: Lights?

1647
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 4: Yeah where do you go when you go out In,

1648
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,759
Speaker 4: hamilton where.

1649
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 5: Are we going?

1650
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 14: To Ben smith and McKenzie's shameless plug for that. Restaurant

1651
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 14: but after that, here but, wait there's. More we go

1652
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 14: to the Bates alehouse And, hamilton run by Former All

1653
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 14: Black Aaron, penny and we have the unofficial you know

1654
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 14: how we had The Radio awards last week and you're

1655
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 14: The broadcaster of the year decade, CENTURY i don't, know

1656
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 14: but we go out and have like The Rural broadcaster

1657
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 14: of The. Year but it's just an absolute roast between,

1658
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 14: ourselves media works and what are that other out?

1659
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 18: For Co Sport?

1660
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,799
Speaker 14: Nation, yeah so that's just a few bears Spats.

1661
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 4: God and so tomorrow is it a complete right? Off

1662
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 4: like are you going to be chugging back the ginger

1663
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 4: beers and eating the McDonald's to try and make it?

1664
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 14: Through, no, no, no not at, All, HEATHER a drink

1665
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 14: like a, man worked like a man the next.

1666
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 16: Day, now, Look i'll be home tucked up in good.

1667
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 14: Time nothing good happens after. Midnight back in the early

1668
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 14: days thirty years, AGO i would burn the candle at both.

1669
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 14: Ends but not, now Because, Heather i've got to do

1670
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:55,799
Speaker 14: serious rural reports like The situation And outlook for primary

1671
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 14: industries reports which was released Today AND i know you're

1672
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 14: dying to find out all, then, right so our primary

1673
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 14: sector exports are worth nearly sixty billion fifty nine point nine, billion,

1674
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 14: okay And, raysmith The Director general OF, mpi said he

1675
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 14: wanted to tweak the accounting department just to get it

1676
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 14: past sixty.

1677
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 20: Billion they died in the hole just shut sixty.

1678
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 16: Billion but here's the.

1679
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 14: Kicker they want primary sect direct who reached sixty five

1680
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 14: point seven billion by twenty twenty, nine which is in four.

1681
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 14: Years remember they set the target last year twenty four

1682
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 14: primary sector exports in the next decade where they're going

1683
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 14: to have to go a long way because they need

1684
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 14: to get from fifty nine to about just over one

1685
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 14: hundred billion to double. Exports so someone's going to have

1686
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 14: to do the heavy. Lifting as it stands at the,

1687
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 14: moment the dairy export industry up sixteen percent for the

1688
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 14: year ended Thirtieth, june twenty seven billion dollars out of

1689
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 14: the sixty that's nearly half meat and waller good solid

1690
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 14: twelve Billion, hortico so a bit of a star of the.

1691
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 14: Stable perhaps that's what we'll save bacon in the end

1692
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:08,919
Speaker 14: up nineteen percent to eight point five, billion forestry slightly

1693
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 14: stagnant at six point three, billion And Shane jones's seafood

1694
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 14: export revenue has lifted two percent to two point two.

1695
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:16,799
Speaker 2: Billion brilliant.

1696
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 4: Stuff, hey go and enjoy. Yourselves you will deserve it

1697
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 4: and spend up large and help them. Out That's jamie,

1698
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 4: McKay host of The. Country where did he say smith

1699
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 4: in something or? Other if you want to see, him go,

1700
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 4: there buy him a. Drink the man deserves. It, hey

1701
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 4: what about The artit? Seady? Though am that thing that

1702
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 4: happened over AND i don't know if you've seen this

1703
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 4: broke down for. HOURS arditeeddi is the one that ran,

1704
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:41,640
Speaker 4: aground of course it. Is it left picked in at

1705
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 4: about ten to nine last night and then it had

1706
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 4: a bit of an unexpected issue with its propulsion, drive

1707
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 4: so it was bobbing about in the. SOUNDS i think

1708
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 4: it was The Queen charlotte. Sound they were waiting for

1709
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 4: a specialist electrician to come out and fix. It the

1710
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 4: electrician arrived fixed it one o'clock in the. Morning they

1711
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 4: set off again and they went over To wellington and

1712
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 4: then they were quite late To. Wellington so, anyway this

1713
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 4: is the this is unfortunately fortunately only four people on

1714
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 4: board of the rest was commercial. TRUCKS i feel sorry

1715
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 4: for the freight industry because they are the ones having

1716
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 4: to deal with this nonsense all of the. Time headlines

1717
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 4: next and we'll have a chat To Sam dickey about

1718
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 4: all THOSE i, pos.

1719
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 2: Whether it's macro microbe or just playing.

1720
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 1: Economics it's all on The Business hours With Heather, Duplessy

1721
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 1: allen And Mars insurance and, Investments grow your, wealth protect your.

1722
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 2: Future these talks at. Me if this world Man raman or, seven.

1723
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 16: If there's role as a, MAN i take, You, james

1724
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 16: and if there's roll as, MINE i Take amusing Fun.

1725
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:46,560
Speaker 4: Brady is going to be with us out of THE

1726
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 4: uk and ten minutes. Time do you REMEMBER i was

1727
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 4: telling you maybe last week that there was The NATIONAL

1728
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 4: mp who'd Berated Jacinda ardern In parliament and she's written

1729
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 4: about it in her. Book we now know who it

1730
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 4: is Is Amy. Adams we know that Because Audrey young

1731
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:02,600
Speaker 4: has put it in her. Column she says there is

1732
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 4: only ONE mp who meets that, description had a bob

1733
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 4: and was respected by, labor and it Was Amy, adams

1734
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 4: which is what our sources in The National party had

1735
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 4: also told. Us if you recall, also did you know

1736
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 4: That Grant robinson has got his own memoir coming. Out

1737
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 4: it's Called Anything Could happen and it's due out in

1738
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,839
Speaker 4: two months. Time, YAY i can't. Wait twenty four away from. Seven,

1739
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,600
Speaker 4: now after a couple of dire, years we're seeing the

1740
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 4: number of companies listing on stock exchanges rise again AND

1741
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 4: ipo is a key source of funding for, companies and

1742
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 4: investors get very excited about. Them And Sam dickey From

1743
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 4: Fisher funds is with me and very.

1744
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 10: Excited, sam he always very.

1745
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 16: Excited, wait good.

1746
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:41,719
Speaker 4: Evening now give me some, context, yea how many IPOs

1747
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 4: are happening at the, moment you, know globally and regionally

1748
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 4: versus what we've had in the.

1749
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 10: Past, well the amount of IPOs globally tends to go

1750
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 10: hand in hand with the amount of animal spirits or

1751
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,799
Speaker 10: enthusiasm in the stock. Market so if you were selling

1752
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 10: a company you, own you'd prefer to sell it where

1753
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,560
Speaker 10: enthusiasm for stocks is. High so twenty twenty one is

1754
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,799
Speaker 10: a good being. There that was the everything. Bubble markets

1755
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 10: were on. Fire second, end cars are on. Fire mean

1756
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 10: stocks are on fire and the issuance of. IPOs then

1757
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 10: over three thousand new companies were listed on The Stock

1758
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 10: exchange that, year which is a staggering. Number and then

1759
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,720
Speaker 10: in twenty twenty two that issuance havel so half the

1760
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 10: number of companies listed the next, year and then halved

1761
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 10: again in twenty twenty.

1762
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 16: Three to give you a sense of.

1763
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 10: The, scale it picked up a little bit in twenty twenty.

1764
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 10: Four but in THE, us for, example in the last few,

1765
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 10: months the run rate of companies listing on The Stock

1766
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 10: exchange is doubled as animal spirits are. Returning, now what's super,

1767
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 10: interesting this is a bit of an, aside is in

1768
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 10: the last year or Two india has been listing more

1769
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 10: companies than THE. Us is that tiger economy continues to.

1770
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 4: Grow our IPOs always good, investments though because there have

1771
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 4: been some, shockers haven't.

1772
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:53,680
Speaker 10: There definitely not always good. Investments and actually you AND

1773
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 10: i did talk about this about eighteen months ago and

1774
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,879
Speaker 10: back in twenty twenty. Three of the ten largest IPOs

1775
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 10: in THE us that four year period from twenty nineteen

1776
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:04,919
Speaker 10: to twenty twenty, three eighty percent of them were, underwater

1777
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 10: and they were underwater by an average of forty, percent

1778
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 10: but that was a bit of a harsh time period

1779
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 10: because investors were sliding down that slippery slope off the

1780
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 10: peak of the LAST opo cycle.

1781
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 16: In twenty twenty.

1782
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 10: One and if you think about, it when more than

1783
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:19,639
Speaker 10: twice as many companies as you would normally see lists

1784
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 10: on the stock, market it's just a truism that many

1785
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 10: of those IPOs will be lower. Quality so more, recently

1786
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 10: as THE ipo cycle started picking, up usually you'll see

1787
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 10: higher quality companies listing at the start in the middle

1788
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 10: of the cycle than towards the, end and the returns

1789
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 10: are much.

1790
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 16: Better so high profile IPOs in THE, us like Care.

1791
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 10: We for, example AN ai infrastructure play And Circle, internet a,

1792
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 10: cryptoplay have both done very, well up one hundreds of.

1793
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 4: Percent how do you, KNOW i, mean if you're an

1794
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 4: investor and you see AN, ipo how do you evaluate

1795
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 4: whether it's a good one or?

1796
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 10: Not, well it's much trickier because as an investor looking

1797
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:58,520
Speaker 10: in from the outside, in there is always an information

1798
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 10: imbalance when you evaluate listed. Company you can even know

1799
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 10: as much about the management or the board of that

1800
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 10: company as to what makes that company, tick and that

1801
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 10: imbalance is extreme when it comes to AN ipo because

1802
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 10: there is no decent historical track record to. Observe and

1803
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 10: the other thing to remember is all of the smartest

1804
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 10: people in the, room so the, owners the, management and the,

1805
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:20,799
Speaker 10: board the people who know the most about the company

1806
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 10: are usually, selling not buying. Shares so that's that sort

1807
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 10: of extreme, imbalance so that the bar to invest in

1808
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 10: IPOs is. High but if you are going to invest in,

1809
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 10: IPOs it's better to do it nearer the start of

1810
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 10: THE ipo.

1811
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:35,599
Speaker 16: Cycle when the number of listings is only just starting

1812
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 16: to pick.

1813
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 10: Up and a final thing to remember, here there is

1814
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 10: that many great, companies and.

1815
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 16: This is a new phenomenon in the last few.

1816
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 10: Years many great companies are choosing not to list on

1817
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:48,839
Speaker 10: the stock market at all these days to stay, private

1818
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,759
Speaker 10: and that's because they have access to ample capital from private.

1819
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 16: Investors and that's one of the many reasons keep you.

1820
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 10: Save providers Like fisher are moving more into the private

1821
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 10: equity space and very interesting.

1822
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 4: Stuff, hey thanks for talk going through, That, sam as,

1823
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 4: always it's fascinating to talk to. You Sam dickie A Fisher.

1824
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 2: Funds Heather duple See Allen.

1825
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 4: Heather this is the greatest tip for cleaning spills on

1826
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,480
Speaker 4: carpets with one hundred percent results on wool and. Synthetic

1827
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 4: it's very easy when. Spills this is From. Carol WHEN'S

1828
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 4: i always feel like a woman Called, carol you can

1829
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:20,639
Speaker 4: do you know WHAT i, mean like you can trust her.

1830
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 4: INFORMATION A carroll knows what they're talking about when it

1831
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 4: comes to the. House AND i don't know why that. Is,

1832
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 4: Anyway it's easy when the spills. Occur you need to

1833
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 4: flood the area with a lot of. Water you need

1834
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 4: to agitate with your, fingers and then you need to

1835
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 4: put folded towels on the area and stomp on the

1836
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 4: same which is the. Towels the spill or the stain

1837
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 4: is sucked up and removed into the, towels and, hey,

1838
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 4: presto it's perfectly. Cleaned it's so. Simple pass it on

1839
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 4: wool is the. Best you're. Welcome carol then followed that

1840
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 4: up ten minutes. Later carol was thinking about, it and

1841
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 4: then ten minutes later text me and, said read the

1842
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 4: carpet cleaning in the prior. Text it must be done

1843
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:58,679
Speaker 4: immediately before the stain spells or. Dries best. Tip now

1844
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 4: here's A, CAROL i think you're onto. It BUT i

1845
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 4: word of, warning, okay because one TIME i lived in

1846
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,760
Speaker 4: a house which wasn't long, ago which the house that

1847
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 4: it was renovating In, wellington and it had sort of

1848
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:13,879
Speaker 4: like a, LIKE i want to, say a beige, carpet

1849
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 4: but it's more like a butter. Carpet but to say

1850
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 4: it was butter makes it feel like that color was.

1851
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 4: INTENTIONAL i don't. Know it just felt like it was just.

1852
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 19: Blu.

1853
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 4: Yeah they kind of like, white, yellow, creamy crappy, color

1854
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 4: do you know WHAT i? Mean, anyway SO i don't

1855
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 4: know what. Happened there might have been something was spilled on.

1856
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 4: IT i don't know what it. Was AND i did

1857
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 4: exactly What carol told me to. Do there is a

1858
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 4: thing that happens with carpet wool carpet's called, wicking WHICH

1859
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 4: i hadn't experienced. Before and what that is is that,

1860
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 4: actually sometimes if you do exactly, that you draw all

1861
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 4: the impurities that have collected for the last fifty to

1862
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 4: seventy years at the base of the, carpet at the

1863
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 4: base of that wool, strand and by doing, that you

1864
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 4: wick it all, up and now you've got whatever your

1865
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:58,679
Speaker 4: previous problem was you now have a giant problem because

1866
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 4: it's all come up with the. Water so before you do,

1867
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 4: THAT i feel Like carol's tip may be a good

1868
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 4: tip if you if you have a newish, carpet do

1869
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 4: you know WHAT i? Mean as opposed as opposed to

1870
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 4: an oldish. Carpet oldish, carpet you at risk of wicking just,

1871
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 4: anyway fact to order that and go TO ai ask

1872
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 4: them what to, do they'll tell. You uber has put

1873
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 4: out its list of the most the things that have

1874
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 4: been lost and found in, cabs and there are some pretty,

1875
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 4: weird like some of it you would. Expect are the

1876
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 4: most common hours of the day to lose things are between.

1877
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 4: Midnight it's midnight is a common. Time one am and

1878
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 4: five am those are the. Hours so that's obviously when

1879
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 4: you know your first wave of people are going home

1880
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:37,759
Speaker 4: sort of like midnight and one they are losing, things

1881
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 4: and then you've got ANSWER's friends who are coming home at.

1882
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:47,679
Speaker 4: Five the top ten most forgotten items, clothing, backpacks, bags, phone, camera, jewelry, watch, makeup,

1883
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:51,760
Speaker 4: wallet's pursa's, umbrella, headphones, speakers, vape, keys, laptop you know

1884
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 4: the usual. Stuff you're coming home from, work you're coming

1885
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 4: home for a big night on the drinkies' that is

1886
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:58,719
Speaker 4: the stuff that you have with. You but the most

1887
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 4: weird THINGS i have been lost a single. Tooth somebody

1888
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 4: lost their tooth in the. UBER i feel like if you,

1889
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 4: WERE i feel like if you were holding onto that

1890
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:11,720
Speaker 4: tooth and the hope that you could put that tooth back.

1891
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 4: In this is a devastating loss few And i'm.

1892
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 17: SORRY i feel like that's something that you'd go back

1893
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 17: for and try and find as.

1894
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:16,640
Speaker 7: WELL i.

1895
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 17: WOULD i, mean it's always a bit of a drama

1896
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 17: to ring up that try and ring up the, Driver

1897
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:21,640
Speaker 17: BUT i feel like for my, TOOTH i. WOULD i

1898
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 17: would go to as much of an.

1899
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 4: Extenty do you have any of your teeth at? Home an's,

1900
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 4: no it's.

1901
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 17: Teeth you've got. TEETH i.

1902
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 4: Do when they gave me my wisdom teeth WHICH i

1903
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 4: had taken out in like about about twenty, twelve they

1904
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 4: put in a little punnet AND i brought it back.

1905
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 17: And collecting teeth in your house to sort of thing

1906
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 17: serial killers, do.

1907
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 4: Yes but it's my, teeth. Okay but here's this is

1908
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:47,400
Speaker 4: the weird, thing because there was it came out of

1909
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 4: my mouth and it had attachments of blood and flesh on.

1910
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 4: It WHEN i opened the punnet after a, while it

1911
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 4: was so, hit so. HIDEOUS i just just put the

1912
01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 4: back on and put it back in the drawer AND

1913
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 4: i haven't opened it. Since SO i haven't opened it

1914
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 4: in about a, decade SO i think the smell is,

1915
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:06,599
Speaker 4: gone But i'm not. SURE i also not brave enough

1916
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:10,799
Speaker 4: to have it lock. Anyway there's That Crusaders jersey golf. Clubs,

1917
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 4: now how did you lose your golf? Clubs BECAUSE i

1918
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 4: feel like you should have known that you had left

1919
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 4: your golf. Clubs if you're going somewhere with your golf,

1920
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 4: clubs they are the item that's like leaving your baby

1921
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:23,799
Speaker 4: behind your. Wardo you're fishing rod a silver. Walkman somebody

1922
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 4: was still rocking a walkman in twenty twenty. Five Louis

1923
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:29,720
Speaker 4: vuitton sunglasses does not feel unique to. Me that just

1924
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 4: feels like somebody drunk forgot them a hip. Brace somebody

1925
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 4: forgot a piece of paper with a contact list on

1926
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:42,720
Speaker 4: it that should be reported to the. Police that's. Creepy some,

1927
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 4: champagne A christmas, hand a chili bin was left. Behind once,

1928
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Speaker 4: again you probably, drunk aren't? You and A Captain America lego.

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Speaker 4: Set so you go if you're, going oh My Captain

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Speaker 4: America lego. Set it's in The uber sixteen away from seven.

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Speaker 2: Everything From semis to the big.

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Speaker 4: Envy indebrady ARE uk correspondents with a Cello.

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Speaker 13: Inde, Hey, heather great to speak to you.

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Speaker 4: Again not looking good on THE gdp, front is?

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Speaker 13: It it's not Really and today was meant to be

1938
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Speaker 13: the big reset off the back of yesterday's spending review

1939
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 13: By Rachel, reeves who's The chancellor the finance minister, here

1940
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:31,680
Speaker 13: so horror, mantra and the narrative was that they were

1941
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,799
Speaker 13: investing and spending and we're going to see a decade

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01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 13: over a newell in THE, uk an awful lot of

1943
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 13: money being outlined as rail projects and you, know a

1944
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 13: new nuclear, plant get pink things moving again and get

1945
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 13: money back in people's. Pockets and in the last forty

1946
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 13: five minutes we've just had THE gdp figures come out

1947
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Speaker 13: for the last month and THE uk economy has shrunk

1948
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Speaker 13: by zero point three. Percent now what they're saying is behind.

1949
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 13: This it's Clearly trump's tariffs that a lot OF uk

1950
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 13: manufacturing front loaded exports To america to try and get

1951
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 13: round what he was. Doing but it's having a big.

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Speaker 13: Impact and if this keeps going, ON i think this

1953
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Speaker 13: would be the big fear For starmer And reeves here

1954
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 13: that if this keeps going on month by month the

1955
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:18,519
Speaker 13: economy keeps shrinking zero point three, percent this is very bad.

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Speaker 4: News, yeah. Totally, hey listen On. Ireland what's it going

1957
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 4: to take to get the stuff to calm?

1958
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Speaker 13: Down so we've just had a third consecutive night of

1959
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 13: violence in the town Of ballymena in The north Of.

1960
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Speaker 13: Ireland and what's behind. This this is nothing to do

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Speaker 13: with any of the what you might call traditional historic

1962
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:40,479
Speaker 13: issues between the two communities in The north Of. Ireland

1963
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 13: this is all over an alleged sexual assault in the

1964
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 13: town Of ballamina earlier this. Week the victim was a

1965
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 13: teenaged local girl allegedly attacked by two fourteen year Old.

1966
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 13: Romanians now they were, arrested they were brought to court

1967
01:33:56,360 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 13: and the boys spoke only through A romanian. Interpreter and

1968
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 13: obviously simmering tensions in the community so for three consecutive

1969
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 13: nights we have seen. Rioting we have seen properties belonging

1970
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 13: to people who are not born on the island Of

1971
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 13: ireland that have been, Attacked vehicles set, alight dozens of

1972
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:18,679
Speaker 13: police officers, injured and last night it took a very sinister.

1973
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 13: Twist so people who have been burned out with their

1974
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:24,639
Speaker 13: own properties have now been moved temporarily to a leisure

1975
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:27,559
Speaker 13: center in the town of Larn and what happened last

1976
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 13: night was a gang turned up and tried to burn

1977
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:33,800
Speaker 13: down the leisure. Center so the police are so stretched

1978
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 13: they've had to call in extra personnel From Police scotland

1979
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 13: to come and back up and. Backfill it's, very very.

1980
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:43,920
Speaker 4: Worry but what's it going to take to get them

1981
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 4: to calm, down do you?

1982
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:48,720
Speaker 13: Think, LOOK i think the big fear here would be

1983
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 13: that as we head into, summer you, know there are

1984
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 13: traditional parades from one particular community in The north Of

1985
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 13: ireland that happened During. July you, know we've seen summers

1986
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 13: of discontent in The north Of ireland previously where there

1987
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:05,840
Speaker 13: have been community flash. Points all of that had mostly gone.

1988
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 13: Away life was, good but this alleged sexual assault has

1989
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 13: just been the tinder spark really this week that has

1990
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 13: kind of created such kind of chaos and it was

1991
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 13: interesting The Assistant Chief constable Of Police Service Northern ireland

1992
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 13: coming out this week and warning people if you, riot

1993
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:25,360
Speaker 13: you will be prosecuted and then you could go to

1994
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 13: prison and that has not even put people.

1995
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Speaker 4: Off, Jeez, inda thank you for talking AS i really appreciate.

1996
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Speaker 4: It Into brady A uk corresponding you that business In.

1997
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Speaker 4: IRELAND i don't know if you've been keeping an eye on,

1998
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:37,599
Speaker 4: that but that's pretty rough what's going on there, here.

1999
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 4: Though i'm more surprised that The yuba driver went through

2000
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 4: the whole reporting process for a single tooth Nine away

2001
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 4: from seven.

2002
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 2: It's the hither?

2003
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 1: Doople See Alan Drive Full show podcast On iHeartRadio powered

2004
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2005
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 4: For six away From goodness me it's actually siven away

2006
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:58,840
Speaker 4: from sevens or just don't even know WHAT i was talking,

2007
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 4: about Siven away From sive and, LISTEN i got to

2008
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:03,720
Speaker 4: talk to you about what's going on In. Syria do

2009
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 4: you remember when the new guys took over In, syria they, said,

2010
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 4: hey don't worry about, It we're not going to go

2011
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 4: all weird on. You we're not going to turn this

2012
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 4: place into Like taliban Run. Afghanistan Now i'm not saying

2013
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 4: that that they're doing, that but they have already started

2014
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 4: to take a step in that, direction and a very small,

2015
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 4: step but it's a step in that. Direction so what

2016
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:23,719
Speaker 4: they've decided is that women who go to public beaches

2017
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 4: have to wear burkinis or other decent, clothes and this

2018
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:30,719
Speaker 4: is at swimming pools as. Well there are exemptions because

2019
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 4: they obviously want to court the tourists, still so there's

2020
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 4: still exemptions for private, beaches, clubs and, pools as well

2021
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 4: as hotels with more than four. Stars men don't get

2022
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:41,799
Speaker 4: away with nakes. Either men have to wear a shirt

2023
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 4: when they are not, swimming and they are not allowed

2024
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 4: to be bare chested outside the swimming. Areas, now they

2025
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 4: maintain their adamant they're not going to get all weird

2026
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:53,960
Speaker 4: and you, know prescriptive on people and how they. Dress

2027
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:56,480
Speaker 4: but already you can see that things are Not, yeah

2028
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 4: it's not great when they tell you how you have

2029
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 4: to look when you're at the, beach is it? Now

2030
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 4: AS i know that you love yourself a, dinosaur so, yes,

2031
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 4: yeah big. Fan have you heard of the Khang kulou.

2032
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:11,719
Speaker 4: Mongoliensis Khan kulou.

2033
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 17: Mongoliansis that's a new.

2034
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 4: One, no, no, Okay so the Khan Koloo mongoliensis was

2035
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 4: first discovered in it means the dragon prince Of mongol

2036
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 4: and it was first discovered very very, cool it isn't?

2037
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 4: It it is cool A it was first discovered back

2038
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 4: in the nineteen, seventies but originally was was wrongly assigned

2039
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 4: to the wrong. Species and the species that it was

2040
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:38,000
Speaker 4: it was put down to Was electrosaurus.

2041
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:39,040
Speaker 17: Electrosaurus AND i don't know that.

2042
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 4: One, no it's. Electrosaurus and so, anyway for the last

2043
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 4: fifty years they have, thought, oh it's just a little

2044
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 4: dinosaur called like that belongs to the. Electrosaurus but somebody

2045
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 4: went back recently and had a look and was, like,

2046
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:55,200
Speaker 4: no hanging a, tick this is not an. Electrosaurus this,

2047
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 4: is in fact the daddy of the t. Rex so

2048
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 4: this comes before the t, rex and it's it's an

2049
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 4: Early it was during The jurassic period where these little

2050
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 4: dudes were running around much smaller than a t. REX

2051
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:09,599
Speaker 4: i can't Believe i'm teaching you about dinosaurs much smaller

2052
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 4: than a t rex would have weighed about seven hundred

2053
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 4: and fifty cag's and as you, know the t rex

2054
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:14,400
Speaker 4: could be eight times.

2055
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 17: Sorry, sorry much more seven hundred and fifty. Cag's, Yes oh,

2056
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 17: okay so, tiny isn't. IT i MEAN i could PROBABLY

2057
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:22,720
Speaker 17: i could probably beat one in a, fight Suld, no.

2058
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:24,680
Speaker 4: This, guy this guy stood no chance against. You AND

2059
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:27,280
Speaker 4: i started to have the jaw power of the t,

2060
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 4: rex and basically is what evolved into the t. Rex

2061
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 4: and they their arms are not kind of as like

2062
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:34,960
Speaker 4: weird and. Small they've got a little. Bit it looks

2063
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 4: a little, bit but it's prove weird and. Small, anyway

2064
01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:38,679
Speaker 4: there you, Go there you. Go there's something to add

2065
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:39,480
Speaker 4: to your dinosaur.

2066
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 17: KNOWLEDGE i, mean if any evidence exists that we should

2067
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 17: GET i should get back into. Dinosaurs clearly they're discovering

2068
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 17: even cooler stuff than you know.

2069
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 4: About the science is not, settled and the science is

2070
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 4: not far from.

2071
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 17: SETTLED a sad one to follow that. Up, unfortunately for

2072
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:56,800
Speaker 17: the other song we're going to go out with, TONIGHT

2073
01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 17: i get around by The Beach. Boys, Obviously Brian wilson

2074
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:02,719
Speaker 17: has at eighteen. Two we haven't given any details about

2075
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:04,920
Speaker 17: how exactly he, died But the family announced the death

2076
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:06,880
Speaker 17: on the web, page and he was very much seen

2077
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:09,800
Speaker 17: as the founder and the principal creative, force and was

2078
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 17: one of the co writers of the song as WHILE

2079
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 17: I get.

2080
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 4: Around wonderful, band terribly sad life, anyway enjoy and we'll

2081
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:19,679
Speaker 4: be back with you. Tomorrow New stoks it beat.

2082
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 10: Do we always take my car because it's never been

2083
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 10: beat and never missed.

2084
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:29,720
Speaker 9: It their.

2085
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:36,760
Speaker 14: Gusty because it wouldn't be right.

2086
01:39:53,240 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 9: AGAIN i get, Around Get, AROUND I Get.

2087
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 1: Around for more From Hither Duplessy Alan, drive listen live

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