1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: The Green Party has released the executive summary of the 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Darling Tana Report. As we kind of already know thanks 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,079 Speaker 1: to the leaks of the report, the report found that 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: it is likely Darling Tanner knew more about migrant exploitation 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: allegations at her husband's business than she had perhaps led on. 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: The Green Party leadership is still noncommittal about whether or 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: not Darling Tana is likely to find herself walker jumped 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: out of Parliament anytime soon. Catherine Della Hunty is a 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: former Green MP and is with us this evening. Kilder, 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: Good evening, Well, Kilder Jack. Can you see the Green 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: Party holding its nose and using the Walker jumping law 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: to push Darling Tanner out? 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: I think it's possible. I think that because they've got AGM. 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: My experience of the Greenses in the past is when 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: there's been a big tricky issue, they take it to 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: the party and listen to the members as much as 17 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: they can, and I think that's quite likely to happen 18 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: given the timing of their AGM soon. 19 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: So you think that it's likely, as opposed to the 20 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: Carker deciding to use the Waker Jumping bill, that they'll 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: go to the AGM put that to members, there'll be 22 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 1: a vote and depending on the decision at that vote, 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: if Darling Tanna was still in Parliament, they might choose 24 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: to invoke the walker jumping law. 25 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that there'll be a vote. There 26 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 2: may be a process check. Green politics is always a process, yeah, 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: and I mean it means people get heard and that 28 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 2: this happened once before. I remember when Jibet Sit Simons 29 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: had to make a call as a leader of the 30 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: party on climate change. She went and talked to a 31 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: large number of people the party and listened up. They 32 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: didn't actually vote, they just talked and then she got 33 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: enormous amount of support for the position she took. So 34 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: I don't know what position the party will take on this. 35 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: There's a history which of course goes right back to 36 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: New Labor Alliance days whereby the Greens supported the right 37 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: to walker jump, and so it's a difficult situation for them. 38 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: It's a real dilemma. 39 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: Did do you think Darling Tana has a mandate to 40 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: remain in Parliament? 41 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: I mean, as a former List MP, I think your 42 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: mandate comes an awful lot from your party. And although 43 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know I support people like Tuddy 44 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: Naturia doing what she needed to do to leave the 45 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: Labor Party and Rodin Jeanette leaving the Alliance. I think 46 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: they were on very strong ethical grounds when they did that, 47 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: because they were going to create new parties. I think 48 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: it's difficult when you're an individual who's been accused of 49 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: the issues, which I'm not able to really comment on. 50 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 2: I don't know enough about it, but I think it's 51 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: difficult to say that's a mandate when you're an individual 52 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: and you're going to go independent. And also, I think 53 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: it's hard to survive effectively independent if you're not in 54 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: the political party. Under the current political system, it's very 55 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: difficult to be effective. And if you look at the 56 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: history of most of the people who have they've not 57 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: been kicked out, but they haven't had a party. They 58 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 2: haven't they haven't been able to do very much. 59 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: No, No, that's the thing. How effective can you really 60 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: be as an independent MP? Do you reckon if the 61 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: if the Greens did use the Waker jumping law, that 62 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: they would be punished by voters. 63 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: Actually, no, I don't think this is one of the 64 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: court issues that Green voters. 65 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: I agree. 66 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: I think that I think people just go well when 67 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 2: they when they when they were anti woker jumping, they 68 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: were talking about parties. Then there's individual cases and it's 69 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: very difficult to write law that covers all all situations 70 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: and the difference between an individual who with whom they've 71 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: lost based and trust on both sides, and and when 72 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: when there's people who are about where when it really 73 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: is about a co propper, Really it is about a 74 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: co crapper with which it was with Taliana even though 75 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: she's electrical MP, she still had a mandate from the 76 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: tongue of the Fenerala right across the country, huge ground 77 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: school of support for her over the Foresheran seabed, which 78 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: is a different situation. 79 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: It is it's a question of policy in that in 80 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: that circumstance, isn't it. Thank you so much for your 81 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: time form the Green MP Catherine Delahunty. For more from 82 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to News Talks ed 83 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: B from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.