1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,467 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,787 Speaker 1: from newstalk ZEDB. 3 00:00:13,067 --> 00:00:16,267 Speaker 2: SO changes coming to Super Pacific in twenty twenty five. 4 00:00:16,307 --> 00:00:20,387 Speaker 2: The competition will have eleven teams. Next year that following 5 00:00:20,467 --> 00:00:23,987 Speaker 2: the demise of the Melbourne Rebels, there'll be a six 6 00:00:24,107 --> 00:00:28,507 Speaker 2: team playoff format, more afternoon games, there'll be an extra round, 7 00:00:28,627 --> 00:00:31,987 Speaker 2: and the competition will start earlier one week earlier in fact, 8 00:00:32,067 --> 00:00:36,307 Speaker 2: on the fourteenth of February. Every side will play fourteen games, 9 00:00:36,387 --> 00:00:38,667 Speaker 2: seven at home and seven away with a couple of 10 00:00:38,747 --> 00:00:43,387 Speaker 2: buys and rivalries will be heavily featured. Every team will 11 00:00:43,427 --> 00:00:48,387 Speaker 2: play four other teams twice and the six remaining teams once, 12 00:00:48,947 --> 00:00:52,227 Speaker 2: and there'll be a focus on those local derbies. Once 13 00:00:52,267 --> 00:00:54,507 Speaker 2: we get to the finals, the top six will play 14 00:00:54,507 --> 00:00:57,907 Speaker 2: in the finals and they'll all play in Week one. 15 00:00:58,507 --> 00:01:02,187 Speaker 2: It'll be one v six, two v five and three 16 00:01:02,307 --> 00:01:06,787 Speaker 2: v four hosted by the highest ranked side. The winners 17 00:01:07,147 --> 00:01:11,147 Speaker 2: and the highest ranked loser will advance through to the 18 00:01:11,187 --> 00:01:14,267 Speaker 2: semi finals and then on to the Grand Finals. So 19 00:01:14,427 --> 00:01:18,267 Speaker 2: but to unpack, we're joined by Super Rugby Pacific CEO 20 00:01:18,627 --> 00:01:21,387 Speaker 2: Jack Mesley. Jack, thanks for your toime. How did you 21 00:01:21,507 --> 00:01:25,347 Speaker 2: land on this season format and in particular the format 22 00:01:25,387 --> 00:01:26,027 Speaker 2: for the finals. 23 00:01:26,987 --> 00:01:29,187 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thank you very much for having me. I'm 24 00:01:29,267 --> 00:01:33,387 Speaker 3: very excited to be talking about our new format. Clearly, 25 00:01:33,467 --> 00:01:37,227 Speaker 3: eleven teams. We needed a format for eleven teams, and 26 00:01:37,307 --> 00:01:40,187 Speaker 3: we found that pretty easily. I mean, we want as 27 00:01:40,267 --> 00:01:43,867 Speaker 3: many great fixtures in the regular season as possible, so 28 00:01:44,387 --> 00:01:48,347 Speaker 3: to have the seven home, seven away, but to ensure 29 00:01:48,427 --> 00:01:52,267 Speaker 3: that those local derbies are taking precedents to the teams 30 00:01:52,267 --> 00:01:55,947 Speaker 3: that do play each other twice was a relatively easy decision. 31 00:01:55,987 --> 00:01:59,307 Speaker 3: We know fans want to see those matchups and we 32 00:01:59,347 --> 00:02:01,227 Speaker 3: want to give it to the fans, so that was 33 00:02:01,267 --> 00:02:05,387 Speaker 3: relatively straightforward. I think the exciting announcement really is the 34 00:02:05,427 --> 00:02:08,667 Speaker 3: new format series. I mean, we've heard feedback for quite 35 00:02:08,707 --> 00:02:12,267 Speaker 3: some time that eight teams in the finals of a 36 00:02:12,267 --> 00:02:16,107 Speaker 3: final series of a twelve team competition mightn't be the 37 00:02:16,107 --> 00:02:18,347 Speaker 3: best way to go. So we did quite a lot 38 00:02:18,387 --> 00:02:20,187 Speaker 3: of work looking at all the models and we'd come 39 00:02:20,267 --> 00:02:23,827 Speaker 3: up with the sixteen competition in the final series, which 40 00:02:24,187 --> 00:02:26,347 Speaker 3: we think is going to create great interest at the 41 00:02:26,347 --> 00:02:29,507 Speaker 3: back end of the season and then really deliver some 42 00:02:29,587 --> 00:02:32,667 Speaker 3: compelling rugby come final series. 43 00:02:32,707 --> 00:02:34,827 Speaker 2: All right, let's talk through the final series. Then, once 44 00:02:34,867 --> 00:02:38,787 Speaker 2: you landed on six teams, did you consider a buy 45 00:02:38,987 --> 00:02:41,827 Speaker 2: straight into the semis for the top two, leaving three 46 00:02:41,907 --> 00:02:43,907 Speaker 2: v six, four v five for the right to play 47 00:02:43,947 --> 00:02:45,347 Speaker 2: them in the semi finals. 48 00:02:46,267 --> 00:02:49,827 Speaker 3: We did, absolutely. We looked at that model along with others. 49 00:02:51,147 --> 00:02:53,387 Speaker 3: You know, what we hear from fans is that our 50 00:02:53,427 --> 00:02:56,747 Speaker 3: season is so short and with two buys already in 51 00:02:56,787 --> 00:02:59,147 Speaker 3: the fixture, we wanted to make sure we had a 52 00:02:59,187 --> 00:03:01,787 Speaker 3: final series that not only pitted the best teams against 53 00:03:01,867 --> 00:03:03,947 Speaker 3: each other, but also to ensure that we had a 54 00:03:03,987 --> 00:03:07,587 Speaker 3: final series that had as many matches in the final series. 55 00:03:07,667 --> 00:03:10,747 Speaker 3: So what we've come up with we think delivers three 56 00:03:10,867 --> 00:03:15,827 Speaker 3: really great weekends of rugby that maximizes the number of 57 00:03:15,867 --> 00:03:19,707 Speaker 3: games and make sure that our amazing athletes are playing 58 00:03:19,707 --> 00:03:22,507 Speaker 3: as much football in front of as many fans in 59 00:03:22,547 --> 00:03:25,387 Speaker 3: as many different locations as we can throughout the Pacific. 60 00:03:25,707 --> 00:03:28,707 Speaker 2: So the lucky loser scenario, Jeck, just just give us 61 00:03:29,107 --> 00:03:32,827 Speaker 2: the reasons behind landing on that. Was it really so 62 00:03:32,947 --> 00:03:36,907 Speaker 2: that you would have three weekends or finals rugby and 63 00:03:37,107 --> 00:03:40,747 Speaker 2: six finals matches across those three weekends. 64 00:03:41,707 --> 00:03:46,347 Speaker 3: Yeah, So our thought process there and was to firstly 65 00:03:46,827 --> 00:03:49,547 Speaker 3: decide the number of teams going through, and we thought 66 00:03:49,627 --> 00:03:52,107 Speaker 3: six teams out of an eleven team comp is the 67 00:03:52,187 --> 00:03:54,747 Speaker 3: right is the right number to make sure we're rewarding 68 00:03:55,187 --> 00:03:58,827 Speaker 3: the excellent finishes through the regular season. And then it 69 00:03:58,907 --> 00:04:01,787 Speaker 3: was about, well, what are the different finals formats from there, 70 00:04:02,747 --> 00:04:06,267 Speaker 3: and so in going to our first week of one 71 00:04:06,427 --> 00:04:09,627 Speaker 3: B sixes you outlined earlier in your intro, that's going 72 00:04:09,627 --> 00:04:12,547 Speaker 3: to give us some great, some great Week one matches. 73 00:04:13,147 --> 00:04:15,787 Speaker 3: And then we did have to find the right way 74 00:04:15,827 --> 00:04:19,147 Speaker 3: to deliver our semifinals. So the winners of those three 75 00:04:19,147 --> 00:04:22,747 Speaker 3: matches obviously go through, and then the lucky loser, if 76 00:04:22,787 --> 00:04:25,587 Speaker 3: you like, the highest ranked loser of those first week 77 00:04:25,627 --> 00:04:30,267 Speaker 3: finals will join in the semi finals. So we think 78 00:04:30,307 --> 00:04:32,467 Speaker 3: it's quite a novel way to ensure we get the 79 00:04:32,547 --> 00:04:36,507 Speaker 3: great the great matches, the great matchups, and ensure that 80 00:04:36,867 --> 00:04:39,347 Speaker 3: those teams are rewarded for where they finish in the 81 00:04:39,347 --> 00:04:42,787 Speaker 3: regular season. And it's really important now that if you 82 00:04:43,027 --> 00:04:45,227 Speaker 3: not just where you finish, if you finish one or two, 83 00:04:45,747 --> 00:04:48,947 Speaker 3: actually if you finish three or four. Now becomes really 84 00:04:48,987 --> 00:04:52,467 Speaker 3: important in your ranking to make sure that should you 85 00:04:52,587 --> 00:04:55,187 Speaker 3: lose in that first week of finals, that you are 86 00:04:55,507 --> 00:04:59,107 Speaker 3: potentially positioned in the best place to sneak through to 87 00:04:59,187 --> 00:05:01,187 Speaker 3: the semi finals as that lucky loser. 88 00:05:01,507 --> 00:05:04,107 Speaker 2: You'll need to be careful with your structure, won't you 89 00:05:04,147 --> 00:05:07,107 Speaker 2: in the week one of the finals, because, for example, 90 00:05:07,107 --> 00:05:09,707 Speaker 2: of three v Four was the last game, both of 91 00:05:09,747 --> 00:05:11,747 Speaker 2: those teams might know they were through of one and 92 00:05:11,787 --> 00:05:12,707 Speaker 2: two had already won. 93 00:05:13,667 --> 00:05:17,067 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think that provides for some really interesting 94 00:05:17,107 --> 00:05:20,107 Speaker 3: fixturing structuring, as you say, to make sure that we 95 00:05:20,427 --> 00:05:23,587 Speaker 3: try to work that out so that the games are 96 00:05:23,667 --> 00:05:26,387 Speaker 3: laddering into each other and building interest and intrigue as 97 00:05:26,427 --> 00:05:28,907 Speaker 3: we go through those final series. For sure. 98 00:05:29,107 --> 00:05:30,867 Speaker 2: Just before we move on from the finals, Jeck, did 99 00:05:30,867 --> 00:05:33,747 Speaker 2: you consider a top four just the top four? 100 00:05:34,107 --> 00:05:38,707 Speaker 3: Yeah, we did, But again, our season is so short 101 00:05:39,227 --> 00:05:41,747 Speaker 3: and we want as much great rugby as we can play, 102 00:05:41,867 --> 00:05:44,187 Speaker 3: and that's what we're hearing from fans want to see 103 00:05:44,227 --> 00:05:47,867 Speaker 3: more good games of Super Rugby Pacific, and we know 104 00:05:47,947 --> 00:05:50,867 Speaker 3: the finals content is what really drives that interest. So 105 00:05:51,827 --> 00:05:53,707 Speaker 3: we looked at a whole lot of different options and 106 00:05:53,707 --> 00:05:57,187 Speaker 3: looked at other competitions from around the world and took 107 00:05:57,187 --> 00:05:59,187 Speaker 3: on board all the feedback that we had from fans 108 00:05:59,187 --> 00:06:02,747 Speaker 3: at other stakeholders, and we're really excited about where we've ended. 109 00:06:02,667 --> 00:06:06,267 Speaker 2: Up three Sunday afternoon fixtures. I see fans do like 110 00:06:06,587 --> 00:06:09,907 Speaker 2: afternoon forty. I'm sure you've picked up on that. Will 111 00:06:09,907 --> 00:06:12,027 Speaker 2: there be some Saturday afternoon games as well? 112 00:06:12,707 --> 00:06:16,827 Speaker 3: There will be, yeah, and there's some really exciting matches 113 00:06:16,827 --> 00:06:20,347 Speaker 3: in those Saturday afternoon fixtures as well. So yeah, we're 114 00:06:20,387 --> 00:06:25,307 Speaker 3: super excited about that. You know, our primetime spots are 115 00:06:25,347 --> 00:06:28,107 Speaker 3: still in the evening and we'll have a lot of 116 00:06:28,147 --> 00:06:31,667 Speaker 3: the big derbies, but you'll see some really good fixturing 117 00:06:32,067 --> 00:06:35,827 Speaker 3: throughout Saturday. Are those and those Sundays. I'm a big 118 00:06:35,867 --> 00:06:38,507 Speaker 3: believer in them, and I hope that you know, we 119 00:06:38,627 --> 00:06:42,227 Speaker 3: get great numbers in stadiums and throughout our great broadcast 120 00:06:42,227 --> 00:06:47,227 Speaker 3: partners across the Pacific to ensure that those are working 121 00:06:47,227 --> 00:06:49,747 Speaker 3: for everyone, because I'd certainly like to see more of them. 122 00:06:50,067 --> 00:06:53,347 Speaker 2: Every professional sport has to deal with the balance a strike, 123 00:06:53,507 --> 00:06:56,907 Speaker 2: striking the balance between being fan centric, as you've outlined 124 00:06:56,947 --> 00:06:59,547 Speaker 2: you want to be, and of course having a broadcaster who, 125 00:06:59,587 --> 00:07:01,387 Speaker 2: if they had their way, would have everything at night. 126 00:07:01,627 --> 00:07:04,667 Speaker 2: I'm sure was it a challenging balance to strike? 127 00:07:05,627 --> 00:07:10,307 Speaker 3: No, not really. You know, our great partners are broadcasters 128 00:07:10,307 --> 00:07:14,027 Speaker 3: at Sky and Zen and stand over in Australia and 129 00:07:14,747 --> 00:07:17,507 Speaker 3: you know they want to see full stadiums as well, 130 00:07:17,707 --> 00:07:21,627 Speaker 3: so you know that balance has been relatively easy to strike. 131 00:07:22,027 --> 00:07:24,747 Speaker 3: You know, we'll continue to monitor and you know we're 132 00:07:24,787 --> 00:07:27,387 Speaker 3: blessed these days to have lots of data at our 133 00:07:27,427 --> 00:07:31,187 Speaker 3: fingertips to make informed decisions with our partners, so we'll 134 00:07:31,187 --> 00:07:33,107 Speaker 3: continue to do that. But they're you know, they've been 135 00:07:33,147 --> 00:07:36,107 Speaker 3: fantastic and as they are for the for the support 136 00:07:36,147 --> 00:07:40,027 Speaker 3: for the code. So no, I think it's been relatively straightforward. 137 00:07:40,067 --> 00:07:41,587 Speaker 3: And you know what we've got to do is make 138 00:07:41,627 --> 00:07:45,107 Speaker 3: sure that everyone knows when the fixtures are on and 139 00:07:45,467 --> 00:07:48,427 Speaker 3: get our marketing and visibility right so we get make 140 00:07:48,467 --> 00:07:51,747 Speaker 3: sure that all rugby fans throughout throughout the Pacific are 141 00:07:51,747 --> 00:07:54,627 Speaker 3: getting in the stadiums and turning on their TVs to 142 00:07:54,627 --> 00:07:56,107 Speaker 3: get behind Seber Rugby Pacific. 143 00:07:56,467 --> 00:07:58,947 Speaker 2: How much consultation did you have with the clubs individually 144 00:07:59,067 --> 00:08:01,787 Speaker 2: and their coaches, who look, if we talked about derby 145 00:08:01,787 --> 00:08:04,867 Speaker 2: matches over in New Zealand, over here in New Zealand, 146 00:08:04,867 --> 00:08:07,707 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's the same in Australia. Those matches are brutal, man, 147 00:08:07,787 --> 00:08:11,467 Speaker 2: they just really take a physical toll on players were 148 00:08:11,467 --> 00:08:15,747 Speaker 2: the coaches concerned that that that, you know, or did 149 00:08:15,787 --> 00:08:18,307 Speaker 2: they raise any concerns about the number of derbies or 150 00:08:18,307 --> 00:08:20,667 Speaker 2: were they keen to embrace the fact that they are 151 00:08:20,707 --> 00:08:23,347 Speaker 2: the most exciting matches to watch and to play in. 152 00:08:25,107 --> 00:08:29,827 Speaker 3: I think I think most of them are extremely competitive 153 00:08:29,867 --> 00:08:32,907 Speaker 3: and want to play against the best team, so you know, 154 00:08:32,987 --> 00:08:36,147 Speaker 3: they want as much as much great football as they can, right. 155 00:08:37,227 --> 00:08:39,107 Speaker 3: I think you're right in terms of how do you 156 00:08:39,507 --> 00:08:41,787 Speaker 3: how does that take a toll? You know, the new 157 00:08:41,867 --> 00:08:45,387 Speaker 3: format with eleven teams provides two buys throughout the season, 158 00:08:45,787 --> 00:08:48,587 Speaker 3: so I think that's going to make sure that our 159 00:08:49,027 --> 00:08:53,027 Speaker 3: athlete rugby well being. Our athletes are in prime shape 160 00:08:53,107 --> 00:08:55,507 Speaker 3: and are making sure that they are set up for 161 00:08:55,587 --> 00:08:58,067 Speaker 3: the for all matches, but you know, making sure that 162 00:08:58,107 --> 00:09:01,627 Speaker 3: they've got got their bodies right for those big derbies, 163 00:09:02,107 --> 00:09:05,227 Speaker 3: you know, whether that be in Australia or in New Zealand. 164 00:09:05,667 --> 00:09:07,827 Speaker 2: Will there be ap around in twenty twenty. 165 00:09:07,547 --> 00:09:12,427 Speaker 3: Five, We're going to I'll save that in a couple 166 00:09:12,467 --> 00:09:14,907 Speaker 3: of days when we release the fixture, if that's all right, Jason, 167 00:09:14,907 --> 00:09:17,067 Speaker 3: but happy to talk more about it then all right. 168 00:09:17,547 --> 00:09:21,867 Speaker 2: So I mean let's say there's not is it let's 169 00:09:21,907 --> 00:09:24,867 Speaker 2: say there's not. Hypothetically, is it an idea that you're 170 00:09:24,907 --> 00:09:28,147 Speaker 2: keen to explore, you know, in future seasons, even if 171 00:09:28,147 --> 00:09:29,227 Speaker 2: we don't have it in twenty five. 172 00:09:30,107 --> 00:09:33,547 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. I think right now, as you know, 173 00:09:33,667 --> 00:09:37,347 Speaker 3: I'm relatively new to the role, I want to explore 174 00:09:37,387 --> 00:09:42,467 Speaker 3: all opportunities and get as much new initiatives or old 175 00:09:42,467 --> 00:09:46,027 Speaker 3: initiatives on the table to review and work through which 176 00:09:46,027 --> 00:09:48,907 Speaker 3: ones we want to pursue, to get that balance right 177 00:09:48,987 --> 00:09:52,067 Speaker 3: and to make sure we're listening to fans. We're listening 178 00:09:52,067 --> 00:09:54,787 Speaker 3: to our coaches and our players, and work and our 179 00:09:54,827 --> 00:09:58,067 Speaker 3: broadcast partners to work out where we go from here. 180 00:09:58,147 --> 00:10:01,187 Speaker 3: But right now, the focus is on getting the fixture 181 00:10:01,227 --> 00:10:05,267 Speaker 3: out for twenty five and yeah, really excited that we 182 00:10:05,307 --> 00:10:08,187 Speaker 3: can bring this new finals format to fans, and we're 183 00:10:08,187 --> 00:10:11,107 Speaker 3: excited about releasing the fixture in a couple of days time. 184 00:10:11,427 --> 00:10:13,227 Speaker 2: Is it your goal to have twelve teams again as 185 00:10:13,267 --> 00:10:15,987 Speaker 2: soon as possible? 186 00:10:16,187 --> 00:10:19,947 Speaker 3: I'm not sure yet, if I'm honest, again, We're going 187 00:10:19,987 --> 00:10:22,667 Speaker 3: to take some time to review it. The focus has 188 00:10:22,707 --> 00:10:25,947 Speaker 3: been to get twenty five live, and I'll work with 189 00:10:25,987 --> 00:10:29,867 Speaker 3: the board, the unions and the clubs players associations to 190 00:10:29,947 --> 00:10:33,987 Speaker 3: work through what twenty six and beyond looks like. But 191 00:10:34,147 --> 00:10:37,307 Speaker 3: you know, I think we've got eleven great teams ready, 192 00:10:37,387 --> 00:10:40,747 Speaker 3: getting ready for a great season in twenty five, and 193 00:10:40,747 --> 00:10:42,827 Speaker 3: we've got a little bit of time now to look 194 00:10:42,827 --> 00:10:46,707 Speaker 3: into the future. But at the moment, we're eleven great teams, 195 00:10:47,107 --> 00:10:50,507 Speaker 3: these team playing seven home, seven away and an exciting 196 00:10:50,547 --> 00:10:52,867 Speaker 3: new final series with the top six. 197 00:10:53,107 --> 00:10:55,427 Speaker 2: Yeah, content wise though, would give you another game every weekend, 198 00:10:55,427 --> 00:10:55,867 Speaker 2: wouldn't that? 199 00:10:56,387 --> 00:10:57,907 Speaker 3: It would absolutely? Yep? 200 00:10:58,547 --> 00:11:01,227 Speaker 2: What's your vision Jack for Super Rugby Pacific? If we 201 00:11:01,267 --> 00:11:03,067 Speaker 2: look a bit broader, we zoom out a little bit, 202 00:11:03,107 --> 00:11:04,787 Speaker 2: what's your vision for this competition? 203 00:11:05,707 --> 00:11:10,507 Speaker 3: Well, our board have have clearly articulated what the purpose 204 00:11:11,107 --> 00:11:14,667 Speaker 3: of Super Rugby Pacific is and that's to ignite the 205 00:11:14,667 --> 00:11:16,947 Speaker 3: flame for generations to love the game. And under that 206 00:11:17,027 --> 00:11:21,067 Speaker 3: sits our vision, which we're still working to define, but 207 00:11:21,187 --> 00:11:24,427 Speaker 3: it will be something around just making sure that our 208 00:11:24,467 --> 00:11:27,387 Speaker 3: competition is the best rugby competition in the world at 209 00:11:27,387 --> 00:11:31,147 Speaker 3: the club level, and that that would be through a 210 00:11:31,147 --> 00:11:34,187 Speaker 3: couple of lenses. It'll be you know, making sure that 211 00:11:34,227 --> 00:11:37,227 Speaker 3: we remain the competition that has the best athletes with 212 00:11:37,307 --> 00:11:41,867 Speaker 3: the best rugby, making sure that we have the best 213 00:11:41,947 --> 00:11:45,787 Speaker 3: fan engagement and making sure commercially that we are we 214 00:11:45,827 --> 00:11:47,707 Speaker 3: are stacked up and doing well. 215 00:11:48,667 --> 00:11:53,667 Speaker 2: So your KPIs, crowd numbers, broadcast numbers, revenue, all of 216 00:11:53,667 --> 00:11:54,507 Speaker 2: the above. 217 00:11:55,827 --> 00:12:01,427 Speaker 3: Well, the first two definitely the revenue. The revenue pile 218 00:12:01,587 --> 00:12:04,427 Speaker 3: largely sits with the clubs and the unions as that 219 00:12:04,467 --> 00:12:08,547 Speaker 3: relates to the various sponsorship right. But yeah, my job 220 00:12:08,627 --> 00:12:12,467 Speaker 3: is to grow the competition so that our partners in 221 00:12:12,507 --> 00:12:15,147 Speaker 3: the ecosystem can grow their revenue. 222 00:12:15,307 --> 00:12:16,947 Speaker 2: Look forward to seeing the draw coming out the next 223 00:12:16,947 --> 00:12:19,067 Speaker 2: couple of days, Jack, It's a format that I know 224 00:12:19,107 --> 00:12:22,147 Speaker 2: I have our listeners talking and looking forward to what 225 00:12:22,227 --> 00:12:24,787 Speaker 2: lies ahead in twenty twenty five. Really appreciate you taking 226 00:12:24,787 --> 00:12:25,667 Speaker 2: the time for a chat. 227 00:12:26,067 --> 00:12:28,347 Speaker 3: Oh, no problem at all anytime, and thanks very much 228 00:12:28,347 --> 00:12:29,507 Speaker 3: for your interesting said rage. 229 00:12:29,627 --> 00:12:32,107 Speaker 2: No, thanks for your time this afternoon, Jack, Jack Measley, 230 00:12:32,187 --> 00:12:34,627 Speaker 2: CEO of super Right Pacific, first chance we've had the chat, 231 00:12:34,827 --> 00:12:36,787 Speaker 2: chance to chat to him on Weekend Sport. 232 00:12:37,347 --> 00:12:40,547 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 233 00:12:40,627 --> 00:12:43,947 Speaker 1: to News Talk st B weekends from midday, or follow 234 00:12:43,987 --> 00:12:45,587 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.