1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:13,773 Speaker 1: from news Talks at b AH. 3 00:00:13,773 --> 00:00:16,653 Speaker 2: Here you go, Jack, I worked as a children's publisher 4 00:00:16,653 --> 00:00:18,653 Speaker 2: here for many years, had the pleasure of working with 5 00:00:18,733 --> 00:00:21,853 Speaker 2: Dame Linley, and you are one hundred percent correct. Everyone 6 00:00:21,893 --> 00:00:24,773 Speaker 2: thinks they can write a children's books and they simply can't. 7 00:00:24,853 --> 00:00:27,453 Speaker 2: It's an art form that's seriously underrated. You not only 8 00:00:27,493 --> 00:00:29,733 Speaker 2: have to appeal to the kids, but you also have 9 00:00:29,813 --> 00:00:32,453 Speaker 2: to make it clever enough to keep parents entertained after 10 00:00:32,573 --> 00:00:36,093 Speaker 2: multiple readings. As I'm sure you are discovering long live authors, 11 00:00:36,093 --> 00:00:39,053 Speaker 2: says Vicky Jack. I couldn't agree more, says Robin Slinky 12 00:00:39,053 --> 00:00:41,853 Speaker 2: Milinkey Catflaps has to be the absolute best. Love you 13 00:00:41,933 --> 00:00:45,613 Speaker 2: work and Jack. We have two grandchildren in France. They 14 00:00:45,653 --> 00:00:47,853 Speaker 2: have the Herey McClary books and we read them together 15 00:00:47,933 --> 00:00:51,373 Speaker 2: over FaceTime. They have their copy, I have mine. It's 16 00:00:51,413 --> 00:00:53,893 Speaker 2: absolute magic and the first thing we will do together 17 00:00:54,013 --> 00:00:56,973 Speaker 2: when they arrive in November, says Pam. Oh, that's so nice. 18 00:00:57,013 --> 00:00:59,013 Speaker 2: Pam ninety two ninety two is our text number. If 19 00:00:59,013 --> 00:01:00,333 Speaker 2: you want to send us a message this morning, you 20 00:01:00,373 --> 00:01:03,893 Speaker 2: can email me as well. JACKTEWSTALKSB dot co dot n 21 00:01:04,133 --> 00:01:06,693 Speaker 2: z our Sporto is going to be here very shortly 22 00:01:06,773 --> 00:01:10,333 Speaker 2: with his thoughts on the second Leader's low tonight in Perth. 23 00:01:10,373 --> 00:01:12,453 Speaker 2: But first up, Kevin Milt here to kick us off 24 00:01:12,453 --> 00:01:14,373 Speaker 2: for our Saturday to get their killed to Kevin. 25 00:01:14,973 --> 00:01:18,693 Speaker 3: Hello, Jack, you're an ambitsis start. Do you deep down 26 00:01:18,773 --> 00:01:22,053 Speaker 3: think that if you had the time, you could write 27 00:01:22,253 --> 00:01:24,773 Speaker 3: a pretty good children's book? I? 28 00:01:24,893 --> 00:01:30,253 Speaker 2: Okay, here's the thing. I know that people overestimate their 29 00:01:30,253 --> 00:01:32,613 Speaker 2: own abilities. Right, So I have a few things that 30 00:01:33,413 --> 00:01:35,973 Speaker 2: are absurd that I know seem absurd to others, but 31 00:01:36,013 --> 00:01:36,733 Speaker 2: I still believe. 32 00:01:36,933 --> 00:01:37,013 Speaker 1: So. 33 00:01:37,133 --> 00:01:41,093 Speaker 2: For example, if I'm in the ocean, I believe that 34 00:01:41,173 --> 00:01:43,653 Speaker 2: I have the strength to swim to any land mass 35 00:01:43,693 --> 00:01:47,893 Speaker 2: I can see. So if I'm twenty kilometers from a 36 00:01:48,013 --> 00:01:50,653 Speaker 2: land mass in the ocean, I think, you know what, 37 00:01:50,733 --> 00:01:54,013 Speaker 2: if push came to shove, I could make it. That's 38 00:01:54,013 --> 00:01:54,533 Speaker 2: my first one. 39 00:01:55,053 --> 00:01:55,853 Speaker 3: My second one. 40 00:01:56,893 --> 00:01:59,973 Speaker 2: You know how they think that men overestimate their abilities 41 00:02:00,013 --> 00:02:05,053 Speaker 2: to land a commercial jetliner. I think that in an emergency, 42 00:02:05,893 --> 00:02:08,813 Speaker 2: with the instruction from air traffic control, I could land 43 00:02:08,853 --> 00:02:11,573 Speaker 2: a commercial jet Now I know that seems absurd, but 44 00:02:11,813 --> 00:02:13,213 Speaker 2: I still think I can do it. 45 00:02:13,333 --> 00:02:16,293 Speaker 3: My third, second one, doesn't seem Yeah, that second one 46 00:02:16,333 --> 00:02:20,013 Speaker 3: doesn't seem served to me in your case, but to me. 47 00:02:20,173 --> 00:02:22,533 Speaker 2: No, it's definitely absurd. There's no way we could do it. 48 00:02:22,653 --> 00:02:24,653 Speaker 2: The third one is that every time I go to 49 00:02:24,733 --> 00:02:26,693 Speaker 2: the zoo, I look at a cheetah and I think, 50 00:02:26,733 --> 00:02:28,573 Speaker 2: you know what, I couldn't outrun that thing, but I 51 00:02:28,613 --> 00:02:31,773 Speaker 2: could beat it in a fight. It's much smaller. It's 52 00:02:31,853 --> 00:02:34,933 Speaker 2: much smaller than I always like, you know what, a lion, yep, 53 00:02:34,973 --> 00:02:37,373 Speaker 2: that's going to be hard. A tiger that looks pretty powerful, 54 00:02:37,413 --> 00:02:41,173 Speaker 2: but a cheatah is just a slightly bigger cat, very skinny. 55 00:02:41,213 --> 00:02:43,013 Speaker 2: I'm like, one blow and that thing's done, you know. 56 00:02:43,333 --> 00:02:45,213 Speaker 2: So those are my three really absurd things. But I 57 00:02:45,253 --> 00:02:47,613 Speaker 2: think I'll add a fourth, and that is that I think, 58 00:02:47,813 --> 00:02:50,053 Speaker 2: oh yeah, ha ha, could it beat a writer like 59 00:02:50,413 --> 00:02:54,093 Speaker 2: a children's book that sells ten million copies worldwide? I 60 00:02:54,133 --> 00:02:57,773 Speaker 2: think it's way, way, way harder than most of us appreciate. 61 00:02:57,853 --> 00:02:58,413 Speaker 2: That's my take. 62 00:02:59,253 --> 00:03:03,013 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure you're right, as although I've always 63 00:03:03,053 --> 00:03:06,733 Speaker 3: thought that if I could, it wouldn't be easy, of course, 64 00:03:07,213 --> 00:03:11,213 Speaker 3: but I think that if I really set myself the task, 65 00:03:12,373 --> 00:03:14,013 Speaker 3: i'd love to do it. I think half of it 66 00:03:14,053 --> 00:03:17,853 Speaker 3: would be to find somebody who could do great illustrations. 67 00:03:17,893 --> 00:03:20,613 Speaker 3: And I did find a superb art, this one who 68 00:03:20,653 --> 00:03:23,253 Speaker 3: agreed with me. I don't think it would have happened, 69 00:03:23,573 --> 00:03:26,413 Speaker 3: but he agreed he would do the artwork if I 70 00:03:26,453 --> 00:03:29,573 Speaker 3: write the script. And I wish I'd done it, of 71 00:03:29,573 --> 00:03:30,173 Speaker 3: course now. 72 00:03:32,373 --> 00:03:34,973 Speaker 2: But it's not too late, not too late, never too late. 73 00:03:36,213 --> 00:03:36,573 Speaker 3: Why not? 74 00:03:37,373 --> 00:03:37,613 Speaker 2: Yeah? 75 00:03:37,693 --> 00:03:40,053 Speaker 3: My other thing is I reckon I could record a 76 00:03:40,053 --> 00:03:41,413 Speaker 3: pop song and. 77 00:03:45,333 --> 00:03:47,733 Speaker 2: Never too late. Well, look, Paul Holmes released an album, 78 00:03:47,773 --> 00:03:48,253 Speaker 2: so why not? 79 00:03:49,933 --> 00:03:50,333 Speaker 3: That's right. 80 00:03:50,653 --> 00:03:53,853 Speaker 2: Anyway, you were casting your mind forward as the last week, 81 00:03:53,893 --> 00:03:56,813 Speaker 2: of course of the local elections campaign, and you've been 82 00:03:57,693 --> 00:04:00,653 Speaker 2: thumbing through your local candidates book and getting to know 83 00:04:00,693 --> 00:04:01,373 Speaker 2: the candidates. 84 00:04:02,213 --> 00:04:06,173 Speaker 3: I wonder at local election times how critical the photo 85 00:04:06,253 --> 00:04:09,813 Speaker 3: is of candidates becoming the final result. Let's face that 86 00:04:09,933 --> 00:04:13,453 Speaker 3: not many voters do much research into candidates. Is certainly 87 00:04:13,773 --> 00:04:16,733 Speaker 3: the local elections which least I probably put myself in 88 00:04:16,813 --> 00:04:21,773 Speaker 3: this sometimes based just on their photos. Is this candidate attractive? 89 00:04:22,173 --> 00:04:25,253 Speaker 3: Does that one look intelligent? It'd be interesting after the 90 00:04:25,293 --> 00:04:30,173 Speaker 3: elections to match up successful candidates with how appealing their 91 00:04:30,173 --> 00:04:33,333 Speaker 3: photographs were and see if there's a link. On the 92 00:04:33,373 --> 00:04:37,493 Speaker 3: other hand, It does astonish me how some candidates put 93 00:04:37,613 --> 00:04:41,733 Speaker 3: no effort whatsoever into getting a decent photo taken of themselves. 94 00:04:41,973 --> 00:04:46,013 Speaker 3: A selfie in the shadows will do, goofy grin. What 95 00:04:46,053 --> 00:04:50,413 Speaker 3: are they thinking? I've got a local electioneering story, Jack, 96 00:04:50,453 --> 00:04:52,573 Speaker 3: I'd love to tell you. It goes back about twenty 97 00:04:52,653 --> 00:04:55,493 Speaker 3: years when I was on the Telly every week fronting 98 00:04:55,533 --> 00:05:00,173 Speaker 3: a huge rating consumer show. Our local mayor, whose surname 99 00:05:00,253 --> 00:05:03,733 Speaker 3: also happened to be Milne, Sam's mine, was running for 100 00:05:03,773 --> 00:05:08,093 Speaker 3: a reelection. His team had erected hundreds of election signs 101 00:05:08,093 --> 00:05:11,213 Speaker 3: all over town. They had no photo, but simply said 102 00:05:11,693 --> 00:05:16,853 Speaker 3: Milne for Mayor. And wisely, these signs were erected before 103 00:05:16,933 --> 00:05:20,933 Speaker 3: nomination for mayor had closed. It was an awful trick 104 00:05:20,973 --> 00:05:23,893 Speaker 3: to play, Jack, but I couldn't resist it. I wrung 105 00:05:23,973 --> 00:05:26,493 Speaker 3: up the mayor and I said, Kevin Milne here, Alan 106 00:05:26,813 --> 00:05:29,133 Speaker 3: just thought I should let you know I've decided to 107 00:05:29,213 --> 00:05:35,973 Speaker 3: run for mayor. There was silence. The sight of hundreds 108 00:05:35,973 --> 00:05:38,693 Speaker 3: of Milne for Mayor signs working just as well for 109 00:05:38,813 --> 00:05:41,613 Speaker 3: me as for him, must have passed in front of 110 00:05:41,653 --> 00:05:44,933 Speaker 3: his eyes. I didn't let him suffer for long, just 111 00:05:45,013 --> 00:05:47,773 Speaker 3: getting allan, you're you're the man for the job. Good luck, 112 00:05:48,373 --> 00:05:50,373 Speaker 3: and he took it well. In fact, promised to keep 113 00:05:50,413 --> 00:05:53,533 Speaker 3: a spare Milne for mayor signed for me and his garage. 114 00:05:53,813 --> 00:05:56,973 Speaker 3: Regrettably I forgot to pick it up. But there's just 115 00:05:57,053 --> 00:05:59,173 Speaker 3: a little story. It always makes me smile. 116 00:05:58,933 --> 00:06:02,493 Speaker 2: That you tell you what, you get some real characters 117 00:06:02,533 --> 00:06:04,613 Speaker 2: for the local body elections as well, Like you say 118 00:06:04,653 --> 00:06:08,893 Speaker 2: that the budgets for theeering don't extend to what they 119 00:06:08,973 --> 00:06:11,493 Speaker 2: might and say a national election or something like that. 120 00:06:11,573 --> 00:06:15,053 Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm always amazed too. And the thing is, 121 00:06:15,293 --> 00:06:17,413 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's actually a great sign for democracy 122 00:06:17,933 --> 00:06:20,733 Speaker 2: that all of these you know, all of all the 123 00:06:20,853 --> 00:06:24,013 Speaker 2: characters who come and come would work and put themselves 124 00:06:24,013 --> 00:06:26,453 Speaker 2: forward for various things. I always think, oh, okay, there 125 00:06:26,453 --> 00:06:28,253 Speaker 2: you go, very good. It's great that we've got a 126 00:06:28,293 --> 00:06:30,853 Speaker 2: system that allows these people to put themselves forward a 127 00:06:30,893 --> 00:06:34,133 Speaker 2: public office. And yeah, and even if they're not prepared 128 00:06:34,173 --> 00:06:36,733 Speaker 2: to take a photo that's in focus or anything like that, 129 00:06:36,853 --> 00:06:37,933 Speaker 2: and then hopefully. 130 00:06:37,573 --> 00:06:40,053 Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't insist they have to do your hair 131 00:06:40,333 --> 00:06:41,613 Speaker 3: before you get taken. 132 00:06:41,813 --> 00:06:45,133 Speaker 2: Yeah totally. Hey, thanks so much, Kevin. 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