1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty exceptional marketing 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: for every property. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 2: On the huddle of this this evening, We've got Joseph 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 2: BEGANI child fun CEO and trisherson of Sherson Willis Hello 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: you guys, color Hello, Josie. Is your favorite Olympic moment 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: anything other than Hamish Kerr winning the goal? 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 3: Oh? That has to be the highlight, partly because it's 8 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 3: a real Olympic sports. I mean I'm not saying that, 9 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 3: you know, kayaking isn't, but like the hyjim, I mean 10 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 3: that's something that the Olympians did at Anching Grease. It's amazing, yeah, 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 3: and what a buzz. And Lisa Carrington, I mean she's 12 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 3: the goat in the boat, isn't she. I mean she's 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: just amazing and she's done it again. I think the 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: thing about this Olympics for me though, was that the 15 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 3: weird events kind of eclipsed the classic events like the 16 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: blomen bouldering and the fantastic break dancing, which was them 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: in the Australian Breakdancer. That was my sort of weird highlight. 18 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: I mean, she's like my kid coming up to me 19 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: and going mom, mom, look at this and then they 20 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: do a really rubbish rolypoly in Wow, it's amazing, Jo. 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: Did you hear that? The reason that she got into 22 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: the Olympics was she set up the breakdowns and federation herself, 23 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: so she basically guaranteed herself a spot. She put herself there. 24 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: Brilliant. I mean, so, I think the weird stuff although 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: the one the moment I loved the most, apart from 26 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 3: the guy knocking the pole off by it with as 27 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: Willy in the in the pole vaulting, But my favorite 28 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: moment was the Turkish gun shooter. Yes, everyone turns up 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: with all the gear, all the goggles and the safety 30 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 3: equipment and the ear things, and he just comes to 31 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 3: the T shirt a couple of tracky bums of his 32 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 3: hand in his pocket, puts his gun out and wins silver. 33 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 4: I mean, what a dude love that? 34 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: What about you, Trish? 35 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: What's your highlight? Well? 36 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 4: One that hasn't met mentioned that requires and mentioned the 37 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 4: Italian Men film team. I mean, how good the. 38 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: Babes were the abs. 39 00:01:54,280 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 4: From a purely esthetic what and this is a minor 40 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 4: humble brag. I was actually the third form high jump 41 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 4: champion in nineteen eighty six actome at a new high school. 42 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 4: So I, along with Barry, I'm all over the Fosbury flop. 43 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 4: But in my day we actually had mats and pads, 44 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 4: not like sand that Barry had, which. 45 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: Is why you're a world to Sharper. 46 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: I just think, Trish, you could have been somebody Trish 47 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: instead of a nobody, which is what you are. 48 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 4: You could have been an OLYMPI I could have been. 49 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 4: I mean, I thought that the Hamish curse thing was 50 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 4: amazing because it was a bolt from the blue. And 51 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 4: who even which one of us going into this was 52 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 4: even thinking about New Zealand in the high jump letlono 53 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 4: at gold medal. And we've had a bit of success 54 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 4: over the years, you know, actually in the stadium with runners, 55 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 4: particularly in Dame Valerie on shotput, but this was this 56 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 4: was absolutely fantastic. A couple of recommendations though, if you're 57 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 4: interested in the break dancing at the Olympics and everyone's saying, well, 58 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 4: how could that be an Olympic sport? There's two fantastic 59 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 4: podcasts that came out over the weekend. Won the Global 60 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 4: Story on BBC and won The Daily on The New 61 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 4: York Times, which actually looked back at the history of 62 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 4: this and how it became an Olympic sport, and the 63 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 4: short story is because it is a massive crowd draw. 64 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, well, I think old mate ray Gun 65 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: has probably repelled a lot of people saying landedly, Josie, 66 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: what do you make of Sebastian Co, who's got to 67 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: be a forerunner to take over the presidency of the IOC, 68 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: saying that he will have rules so this Algerian boxer 69 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: situation doesn't repeat. 70 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: What do you make of that? 71 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting that he's put his name forward now, because 72 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: the protocol is usually to wait. You meant to sort 73 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: of wait until I think three months before the election 74 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: and then sort of, you know, humbly say well, of course, 75 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,839 Speaker 3: if people want me to serve, they will. And he's 76 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: gone out, just a typical Sebastian Co gone out and 77 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 3: gone yeah I want it and this is what I'll do. 78 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 3: So good on him. I don't envy him. I don't 79 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 3: envy sports administrators at all. This is really tough. I mean, yes, 80 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: you know, you've got to look at the fact that 81 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: it's mostly people who may have been assigned female at 82 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 3: the male at birth, who identifies female, who wants who 83 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 3: want to compete in female sports. It's never the other 84 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: way around, right, So there is just a physical problem 85 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: here that you've got to make sure you get it right. 86 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 3: And there are there are there are things on the 87 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: fringes when it comes to biology and interseex that we've 88 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 3: just seen with a Solgerian woman that it's really really 89 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 3: hard to work out what you do. So I don't 90 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: envy them because there's some complicated cases. 91 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: No, I totally agree, Trisha. I want your take on 92 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: or we'll get it after the breakache back on the 93 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: Hudle got Trishus and Joe Spagani. Trisha, what do you 94 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: make of seb Co coming out and saying that. 95 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 4: I think that he needed to take the stance. I mean, 96 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys saw this, but there 97 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 4: was an absolute mess of a press conference about a 98 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 4: week ago where the International Boxing is so who had 99 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 4: tried to basically rip the IOC around this issue. It 100 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 4: was an absolute channels and they really made a disgrace 101 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 4: of themselves. So I think that the suture president of 102 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 4: the IOC is now trying to take back the lead 103 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 4: and trying to get into control of them this. But 104 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 4: as Josie said, you know, good luck to them, because man, 105 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 4: it is a minefield. 106 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. Hey, Josey, can you explain to me why 107 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,119 Speaker 2: the Police Association is fighting so hard with Nicole McKee 108 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: at the moment. 109 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that they're a lobby group there a union. 110 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: Any lobby group or any union has a right to 111 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: call for a minister to resign. I remember once calling 112 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 3: for Jerry Brownley to resign, can't remember why, and we 113 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 3: ended up getting drunk together in the Corow Club. So 114 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 3: it's kind of like, you know, that's what you do. 115 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: So partly they're playing politics, yes, and they've got a 116 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: right to do that. I mean, I do think I 117 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: listened to your interview with the minister and honestly, if 118 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 3: you were cynical about consultation before, you certainly would be. 119 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 3: After that interview. There was scoping consultation which the Police 120 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 3: Association aren't invited to. There was initial consultation, targeted consultation, 121 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 3: whole levels of gobbledygooky consultation that the Police Association i e. 122 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 4: The cops that. 123 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 3: Actually stand out in the streets and have to deal 124 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: with the criminals and deal with the potential of gun 125 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 3: violence you know, why wouldn't you have included them? I 126 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 3: mean it makes me just drop the ball. 127 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: It feels like screwing the scrum ahead of the thing. Right, 128 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: So everything is stitched up and you can consult after 129 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: that or you want you're not going to get through 130 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: everybody's agreed, yes. 131 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, and they can do it at Select Committee. 132 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 4: Well so can I. 133 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 3: But I don't think my view is as important as 134 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: a cop trice. 135 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 2: Would you agree with that? 136 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 4: Well? I actually thought Carl Hills picked a pretty tough 137 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 4: opponent here. You know, if you listen to Nicole McKee, 138 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 4: she was pretty strong and pretty clear and it's probably 139 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 4: one of the better ministerial interviews I've heard recently. I 140 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 4: think she's going to be a tough competitor and I'm 141 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 4: not sure that Carle's taken the right approach here or 142 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 4: it's going to, you know, ultimately get him where he 143 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 4: wants to be. And don't forget the history on this 144 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 4: with Act. This was an issue around the time that 145 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 4: though the gun the law changes were being made after 146 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 4: the Mosk attacks, Seymour really swam against the tide in 147 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 4: Parliament and took a really sort of principled Act type 148 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 4: approach to the gun changes, pointing out a number of deficiencies, 149 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 4: So it's no surprise that mckey's taking the line. 150 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, yeah, Okay. Now do you think Josie am 151 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: I being unfair? Or would you expect a twelve year 152 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: old to be able to convert three quarters into decimal 153 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: and get the answer zero point seventy five. 154 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: I can't even do my times table. I had such 155 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: bad education, so you know, have a I couldn't do that. Yes, absolutely, 156 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: we should expect them to. And it's one of the 157 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: problems that we've got and that we have in terrible 158 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: mass results in this country. And if you want to fix, 159 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 3: if you want to fix polarization as society, get education together, 160 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 3: get better on education too. 161 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: Right, what do you think, Trisha? I mean, is that 162 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: a reasonable thing to expect a twelve or thirteen. 163 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: Year old to do? 164 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 4: I was? I mean, isn't fractions to decimals one of 165 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 4: those sort of based foundational year things that you learned 166 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 4: pretty early on, especially three quarters? Even I could do that. 167 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 4: I had laughter in recent weeks of discussion about you know, 168 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 4: kids needing to learn their timetables. The reason I learned 169 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 4: mine because Fred's parents had them stuck on the back 170 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 4: of the toilet door twelve twelve times time Trish. 171 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: Go go go no no no no, no, no, no no, 172 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: give me another one. 173 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 4: I well, I haven't got it on me now, six 174 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 4: times seven forty two. 175 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: I'll get a dopamine hit from this. I think I'm 176 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: I think there's something wrong with me. 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