1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Do Britain. We go Rod murfree and good morning to you. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 2: Come more in to you mate. 3 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: The world as a changing, isn't it? This ha just 4 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: been spending. When Starmer does what he does, do people 5 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: cheer him on and go hear here about time? Or 6 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: do they ask questions like I wonder where the money 7 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: for that's coming from? 8 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 2: The latter there is no indication as to where the 9 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: money is going to come from for what is a 10 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 2: massive increase in defense spending, an increase which you have 11 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: to say is needed, but which cuts across everything else 12 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 2: which the government is doing. So you know, we're we're 13 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: building loads of more nucleused submarines, rigging up the amount 14 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 2: of money we're spending on defense to three percent, and 15 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: that's before the end of this parliament. There are aspirations 16 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: to go even higher. We understand a stent why that 17 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: is needed. Well, it's not understood is where the money 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: is going to come from. I don't think anyone knows that. 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: Interesting, isn't it? I was. There's a guy called Miles, 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: Richard Miles. He's he's high up in the Australian government 21 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: and he met last week with hig Seth. He came 22 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: back to Australia and higg Seth that asked him for 23 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 1: five percent, And there's sort of a stout brewing over that. 24 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,279 Speaker 1: This seems to be. It was once three, now it's five. 25 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: I mean, what's five worth to Britain And there's anyone 26 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: spending five? For goodness sake, Well, no one. 27 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: In Europe is spending five. And I don't think that 28 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: the USA is spending five. It may well be that 29 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 2: Estonia or someone like that is spending five, but no, 30 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 2: it would be income just unconsidering, unconsidering, we couldn't do it. 31 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: We couldn't do it. That being said, you know, he 32 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: is talking of this story in a very very big way. 33 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: He says, we have to be ready for war. We 34 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: could have to be ready for the news threat from Russia. 35 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: Three percent isn't the end of what we're going to 36 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: be doing. I don't think this is going to play 37 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: terribly well with the left wing of labor supporters think 38 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: a lot of this is rubbish. I don't think it 39 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: plays terribly well with the Treasury either. So it is 40 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: a problem for him. 41 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: Okay, now you've been chatting with miss Benknock over the weekend. 42 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: How would she how she got a bit of expector 43 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: or about her or not really. 44 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: There is a general feeling within the Conservative Party that 45 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: she hasn't done enough quickly enough to address both the 46 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: threat of reform and indeed to stick it to the 47 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: Labor government. Is that true. Possibly, She says it was 48 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: a conscious decision not to come out with all guns blazing. 49 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: That being said, you know, you've got a Conservative party 50 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: which was at this time last year the government with 51 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: a huge majority, which is now on sixteen percent in 52 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: the polls. This is a problem both for Labor and 53 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: for Tories, but particularly at the moment for Kenney Badenock. 54 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: She cannot see that many of the things which she 55 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: is doing to gain more votes for the party will 56 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: result in the end in many of those people who 57 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 2: voted for a leftish Conservative party, you know, a gentle 58 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: Conservative party will desert her for the Greens and for 59 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: the lip Dens. And it's the same problem which is 60 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: faced by Labor, which can also not see that the 61 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: more and more it chases the right and farage, the 62 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: more it alienates those voters in the south of the 63 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: country who might be inclined to vote for the lib deads. 64 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: It's a huge problem. 65 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: Speaking of farage reform Hamilton, the Hamilton by election. They're 66 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: looking at what they're mostly calling a Tartan bounce. You know, 67 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: it's the first opportunity to see whether what we saw 68 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: the other day is real? Is it real? Do you 69 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: think what do you reckon is going to happen? 70 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: I think it's probably a stage te fa for reform 71 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: to in Hamilton, and they don't have a huge presence 72 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: in Scotland, and my guess is it will be between 73 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: Labor and the SMP. But there's no doubt that reform 74 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: is on the marginals of the border. It's just a 75 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: moment near the scale that it is down here. 76 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: And that is Roderick Little, who will be back with 77 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: us on Thursday on the My Consking Breakfast. Just quickly, 78 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: by the way, they've got drinking water problems in that 79 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: particular part of the world. They're going to have drinking 80 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: water shortages within a decade, so they've announced the government 81 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: they're speeding up planning process for a couple of reservoirs. 82 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: They've got one thousand people. In fact, I had an 83 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: updated number this morning that suggested over twelve hundred. Anyway, 84 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: there were more than somewhere between onenty and twelve hundred 85 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: illegal migrants that crossed the English Channel on Saturday. Just 86 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: on Saturday, biggest day so far for twenty twenty five, 87 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: eleven eleven hundred and ninety four arrived in nineteen small boats. 88 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: Annual total so far as up to fourteen thousand, eight 89 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: hundred and eleven, which is up forty two percent on 90 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: this time last year ninety five percent on the same 91 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: point in twenty twenty three. Thirty seven thousand people across 92 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: the Channel in small boats in twenty twenty four, the 93 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: highest figure since twenty twenty two, when it was forty 94 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: seven hundred fifty five. So now they get more people 95 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: across the Channel on Saturday than the Blues got at 96 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: their match precisely many times over. And then we've got 97 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: a fourth man. Rod alluded to this last week. He 98 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: thinks it's Russian. A lot of people think it's Russian, 99 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: technically the Ukrainian. But there's a fourth man now who's 100 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: been arrested over these series of fires at Starmer's house. 101 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: So as Starmer's house he was arrested. The bloke was 102 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: arrested at Stansteed clearly on his way out. Three incidents. 103 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: He had a vehicle fire, he had a fire at 104 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: the Prime Minister's private home in the same street as 105 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: the vehicle fire, and then in a fire at fire 106 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: at an address that he'd previously lived in. So the 107 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: thinking is there might be a bit of Russian doings there. 108 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 109 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: news talks that'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 110 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.