1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Heather duplesl one of the biggest delivery companies, Reckons, one 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: of our biggest by the way delivery companies. Reckons, We're 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: coming out the other side of our recession. This is 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: Freightways runs New Zealand, Couriers runs Big Chill. Of course, 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: it's recorded a five point eight percent decrease in its 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: net profit. That's down to about seventy one million dollars. 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: But the company is celebrating the result because it's whether 8 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: the worst of our economic times. It Reckons, Mark Trow 9 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: Here is the Freightway CEO. 10 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: Hey, Mark, Hi, Heather, how are you. 11 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: I'm very well, thank you. So are you seeing this 12 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: as actually quite a small drop for how bad things 13 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: have been? 14 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, in a word, yes, I think. I don't 15 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 2: know that it gets any worse than this, and it's 16 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 2: been at this level for a wee while now. So 17 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: now there's a little bit of light at the end 18 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: of the tunnel that hopefully asn't a train coming the 19 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: other way. With some rate cuts here in New Zealand, 20 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: maybe gradually we can start to see someone proven as 21 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:51,959 Speaker 2: we get into next year. 22 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: What do you mean it doesn't get as bad as this? 23 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: Well, I think We've tracked our customer activity month or months, 24 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: day on day for a long time now, and I 25 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: think we're at at the moment seems to be as 26 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: bad as it has been through that last eighteen months. 27 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: We're not seeing it getting any worse. We're not seeing 28 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: get better, but it's really stable in terms of the 29 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: volume coming from our customers. So what we would hope 30 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: is with a little bit of confidence from lower interest 31 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: rates as we come into next year, that that volume 32 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: then might pick up. 33 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: Do you reckon it's going to make a big difference 34 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: what happened with the ocr last week. 35 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: I think it'll take maybe ex or so months to 36 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: wash through. So our pick would be maybe after Christmas, 37 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 2: you're starting to see a few green shoots out there, So. 38 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: You think because I was kind of penning hopes on 39 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: the fact that just that signal that we are through 40 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: the worst of it would give some people some confidence 41 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: to start spending. They don't need to hold for the 42 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: big rollover on the interest rates and stuff. You don't 43 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: think that'll happen. 44 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: I suspect it will take a little while maybe for 45 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: people to roll over their interest rates, have a few 46 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: more dollars in their pocket. The tax cuts that we've 47 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: just had as well, and again it's a small contribution 48 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: to people to put a little bit more money in 49 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: their pocket. But my sense, my gut feel, is it 50 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: might just take six months to wash through to see 51 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: a little bit more volume ail. 52 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: So still post the summer holidays before we really start 53 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: to see a pickup in business. 54 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: Look, I think so, I mean, Christmas time is a 55 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: busier time for us, but I don't think it's going 56 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: to be that much busier than last year. I think 57 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: we'll ride through that period and then in the new year. 58 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: I mean some cases it's businesses it might need to 59 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: invest to grow their capacity, to push out a bit 60 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: more frase and have a bit more activity. For things 61 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: like the construction industry here, so we do a lot 62 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: of a lot of work for people in the construction 63 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: sector and that sector is really down on the doldrums 64 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: at the moment. It might take a little while for 65 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: that sort of sector to flow through with better results. 66 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I suspect it's going to be like we're not 67 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: talking months, We're probably talking years, aren't we with them? 68 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: But eventually, essentially we did a huge amount of work 69 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: for people back in If you remember the COVID days 70 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: where you couldn't fly anywhere, but you can do up 71 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: your house and you come off a high of that 72 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: back and probably twenty twenty two and it's been really muted. 73 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: But even sectors like that, I suspect maybe over the 74 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: next six months just start to get a little bit 75 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: of a lift. 76 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Mark, I mean, if you listen to 77 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: the likes of I think it was Fitch who said 78 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: it a few weeks back, we I guess many of 79 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: us are banking on bouncing out of this and just 80 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: going back to sort of the hype of the last 81 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: ten years once we get through the COVID stuff. But 82 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: they were saying, temper you expectations because the Chinese economy 83 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: is not doing that well and the recovery is just 84 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: going to be pretty grinding from here. Is that what 85 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: you're expecting? 86 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: Look, I think it'd be slow and steady, but that's 87 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: all right for us. Slow and steady, and even one 88 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: percent two percent growth out of our existing customers that 89 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: feeds our network pretty well, so we would be okay 90 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: with that. We'll win a bit of new business, we'll 91 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: attract a few new customers, get our pricing right, You 92 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: know that won't be the worst outcome. 93 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: Oh good stuff, Mark, listen, thank you, appreciated, look after yourself. 94 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: That's Mark trow here Froatway CEO. 95 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: For more from hither do see Allen Drive. 96 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: Listen live to News Talks d B from four pm weekdays, 97 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.