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Speaker 1: Digging through the spin spids to find the real story.

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Speaker 1: Or it's Ryan Bridge on Heather Duplicy Ellen drive with

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Speaker 1: one New Zealand. Let's get connected and news talks.

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Speaker 2: They'd be good.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon coming up today, Chris Bishop. We're back to one

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Speaker 3: hundred on the state highways from tonight. Auckland Hospitals run

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Speaker 3: out of hot Water Wellington's Events Center. Events are a flop.

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Speaker 3: Dan Mitchison is in the US and Gavin Gray's in

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Speaker 3: the UK. Ryan Bridge, so speed limits they're back to

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Speaker 3: one hundred from tonight. This is on about thirty eight

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Speaker 3: they don't save lives. I wanted to mount a case

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Speaker 3: for lower speed limits having little to no effect on

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Speaker 3: accidents and injuries and dead and everything they go on about.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to defend speed this afternoon, but the fact

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Speaker 3: is I can't. You can't not only do those annoying

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Speaker 3: evidence people have the evidence, But there's also just plain

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Speaker 3: old common sense. Right if we all cruised around at

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Speaker 3: no deaths on the roads. So it's true. So the

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Speaker 3: question is not does slowing down save lives? The question

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Speaker 3: How many extra crashes are we willing to tolerate to

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Speaker 3: get our goods and our exports delivered to supermarkets and

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Speaker 3: to ports up and down the country, economic growth, productivity,

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Speaker 3: all of those things. Because let's be clear, people will

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Speaker 3: Does that mean that we drop all of our speed

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Speaker 3: Where does it stop. At the end of the day.

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Speaker 3: Governments draw line in the sand, and it's often where

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Speaker 3: locals just scratched their heads in disbelief. Masterton to Featherston

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Speaker 3: Now it will be closer to two hours. That's on

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Speaker 3: do anything to change it. So finally some of these

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Speaker 3: including that particular stretch of State Highway to All of this,

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Speaker 3: of course, ignores the bigger problem, which is the state

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Speaker 3: of our roads. People don't die on good roads generally.

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Speaker 3: In fact, there's plenty of international evidence. If you want it,

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Speaker 2: Brian Bridge ten.

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Speaker 3: After four news talks thereb In the first two weeks

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Speaker 3: of this year, batteries have caused five different fires in

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Speaker 3: rubbish and recycling trucks and that is just in Auckland.

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Speaker 3: The Auckland recycling facility has one or two small fires

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Speaker 3: every week. Justine Hayes is with Auckland Council. She's the

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Speaker 3: general manager of Waste Solutions and she's with us this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Justine, Good afternoon. This is all to do

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Speaker 3: with lithium iron batteries, are we sure of that?

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Speaker 4: We can't attribute them the fires directly, but what we

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Speaker 4: do know is that the highly explosive material, and there's

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Speaker 4: many more of them in our waste stream than ever before,

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Speaker 3: How many So five fire truck fires in the space

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Speaker 4: Yeah, We've actually had nine in January now, so that

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Speaker 3: What happens when there's a fire, Like, does the driver

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Speaker 4: Sometimes they are aware with something like smoke and kind

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Speaker 4: more waste and environmental spoil, which then requires even more

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Speaker 3: That would just presumably be the closest place. So then

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Speaker 4: And unfortunately many of these fires occur in our recycling trucks,

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Speaker 3: What do you know what the main culport is, because

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Speaker 3: there's you know, there's the whole ev batteries, there's the scooters,

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Speaker 5: No, we don't really.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately the problem is the increasing numbers of all of

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Speaker 4: those things, so vapes, laptop batteries, phones, electronic tooth brushes, raises, toys.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, Justine, thanks so much for your time. That's Justin

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Speaker 3: for Auckland Council. It is thirteen minutes after four News

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Speaker 3: Talks EDB. Actually I got some numbers for you on

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Speaker 3: and on lithium ion batteries, how many more there are

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Speaker 1: on Heather Dupless Alan Drive with One New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Let's get connected News Talk Sedb.

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Speaker 3: It is sixteen after four news talks EDB and Darcy's

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Speaker 3: here was sport, Dusty good.

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Speaker 6: Afternoon and afternoon to Utian.

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Speaker 3: We've just been talking about the temperature of the studio.

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Speaker 6: I'm really skinny.

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Speaker 6: and recharge after this cross not sport, though, is it?

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Speaker 6: They're willing to pour a lot of money into it.

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Speaker 6: So they're super super ken and they've climbed into everything,

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Speaker 8: Because it's worked.

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Speaker 3: Mentioned they won't Tyson Fight, but it's worked for them.

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Speaker 6: People want sport that whether they're willing to pay for

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Speaker 3: They see. This is the advantage of Sky's Sport right

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Speaker 6: Well, you're used to but not anymore. That's kind of

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 6: What about us?

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Speaker 2: Is this going to cost us more?

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Speaker 3: Exactly? Do I get to see you're having to spend

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Speaker 6: She has an issue around previous with domestic abuse herself

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, twenty five minutes away. From five. After five,

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Speaker 3: we're going to talk Auckland Hospital. So they've lost their

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Speaker 3: US President Donald Trump has had another executive order blocked

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Speaker 3: About time for them too. Finally, the city of Greenville

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Speaker 3: There's got stateside now, Dan Mitchesson, our US correspondent, Dan

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Speaker 14: the seats free for people that want to buy something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Dan, thank you for that. Dan Mitchison, a US correspondent,

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Speaker 3: just gone nineteen minutes.

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Speaker 2: Away from five Bryan Bridge.

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Speaker 3: So if you've been paying attention to Parliament this afternoon,

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Speaker 3: which let's face it, I mean I watched question Time

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Speaker 3: and honestly, the caliber of the debate these days is

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Speaker 3: just not what it was. And Jerry Baron I had

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Speaker 3: listened to Jerry this afternoon. He said he's got hearing

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Speaker 3: aids now so he's actually finding it a little overwhelming

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Speaker 3: in the chamber because he can now hear all of

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Speaker 3: the mud slinging that's going on from the back of

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Speaker 3: the debating chamber. Anyway, it was in a Select committee

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Speaker 3: today that the departy Mardi MP Muddy Amen or Kapa

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Speaker 3: Kinghey said this to the Children's Minister Karen Saw. They

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Speaker 3: were talking about boot camps. That's the context of it,

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Speaker 3: but this is what was said.

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Speaker 15: You refer to ancestry cannot matter more than the safety

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Speaker 15: of a mook upon it, which is an absolute abhorrent

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Speaker 15: to tikon. It is abhorrent to mindy, It is abhorrent

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Speaker 15: to the in which we see the world.

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Speaker 3: Can you say to you know, Karen Shaw, we all

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Speaker 3: know was brought up in Foster Holmes, but has fucker

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Speaker 3: papa's malti. She has Maori ancestors. Can you say to her,

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Speaker 3: you know, basically you're not a real Maori. You don't

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Speaker 3: know the essence of being Maori. Can you say that

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Speaker 3: and not be a racist? Nine two nine two. It

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Speaker 3: is eighteen to five. We're going to talk to Jason

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Speaker 3: Walls out of Parliament on this next.

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Speaker 1: Politics with centric credit, check your customers and get payments.

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Speaker 3: Certaindy just go on quarter to five Jason Walls as

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Speaker 3: well as from Parliament. Jason, good afternoon, Good afternoon. Right,

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Speaker 3: So to party, Marty's at it again. Indeed they are.

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Speaker 3: You know they started yesterday on the right track.

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Speaker 16: I have listened to what Debbie Nadi Wapaka said during

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Speaker 16: the Prime Minister's debate or the debate on the Prime

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Speaker 16: Minister's speech.

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Speaker 17: I'm standing on behalf of T Party MARII today to

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Speaker 17: constructively give our view on the Prime Minister's statement. And

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Speaker 17: I've got to be really honest, what I've witnessed this

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Speaker 17: afternoon is showing that even day one, the deterioration of

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Speaker 17: our behavior and our debate can't be held.

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Speaker 16: So I thought, oh good, they're going to stay in

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Speaker 16: They're not going to stay out of pocket things, They're

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Speaker 16: not going to be too extreme with their language. I thought, fantastic.

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Speaker 16: They've taken the year, they've taken the summer to assess

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Speaker 16: alas it took less than twenty four hours for Tiparti

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Speaker 16: Marti to show their own deterioration in the way that

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Speaker 16: they're speaking and the way that they're interacting with the

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Speaker 16: other MPs. Have a listen to what Ti parti Marti

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Speaker 16: p Mediameno Cappaccini told Karen Shaw during a Select committee

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Speaker 16: this morning when talking about the boot camps.

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Speaker 15: So, how in your institutionalized, individualized using your words process,

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Speaker 15: does your system and institutional system understand that and respond

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Speaker 15: to it in an enduring way because it doesn't sound like, Look,

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Speaker 15: I have.

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Speaker 5: To disagree with most of what you've said, and you're

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Speaker 5: entitled to say it, and I actually disagree with most

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Speaker 5: of what you've.

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Speaker 15: S got a gat acknowledgments you don't understand.

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Speaker 16: So what she said there, that's a that's Marie Manao

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Speaker 16: Kapakini telling Karen Shaw, who is a Marty MP, that

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Speaker 16: she doesn't understand the essence of being Mary. And this

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Speaker 16: is the same MP who accused the Coalition government of

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Speaker 16: having a quote mission to exterminate Marty and who is

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Speaker 16: used words like white supremacy, paktiha supremacy when criticizing their

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Speaker 16: repeal of seven double A of the Tamariki actor. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 16: sure has been the victim of these attacks before, as

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Speaker 16: you're well remember Labor MP Calvin Davison. Calvin Davison said

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Speaker 16: that she saw the world through a quote vanilla lens.

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Speaker 16: But according to Tipati Marti called leader Debbie Nardi a packer.

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Speaker 16: She essentially stood by the words of the MP.

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Speaker 18: I mean, our role is the challenge and you have

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Speaker 18: seen it in here specifically, we mentioned the day that

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Speaker 18: we did the Hucker on what it's like to be

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Speaker 18: cornered and held to ransom.

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Speaker 16: But Seymour's having none of it. He says that all

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Speaker 16: people who oppose racism should oppose Tipati Marti.

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Speaker 7: Well, no, because they don't think they've done anything wrong.

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Speaker 7: And that is my point, is that they are race fanatics,

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Speaker 7: racial supremacists, people who believe that before you can talk

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Speaker 7: about anything else, you've got to talk about your ethnic background.

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Speaker 7: And that's what I'm wholeheartedly opposed to have.

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Speaker 16: So we had a couple of minutes of respite yesterday

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Speaker 16: in the House and we're back to, as I said,

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Speaker 16: the way things were.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting because this has happened for years and years.

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Speaker 3: They used to say this about Paula Bennett when she

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Speaker 3: was in government. They say about Simon Bridges as well,

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Speaker 3: you know, you're not a real milding, I think was

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Speaker 3: the phrase that they used to throw around. Then meanwhile, Winston,

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Speaker 3: what's he done? What are the Greens upset about?

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Speaker 16: Well, the first shots were fired yesterday when Winston Peter

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Speaker 16: said this in the house.

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Speaker 8: I know they're laughing.

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Speaker 19: The Greens are laughing at that because they find that comical.

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Speaker 19: They find that comical. The very people who are here,

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Speaker 19: on the very refuge that wiged to them, have come

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Speaker 19: here with your ideas foreign to our country, native to this,

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Speaker 19: and they wish two in person, one out of Parliament.

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Speaker 19: Now you don't, you're not gonna succeed you. You might

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Speaker 19: be laughing now, but you might be laughing now, but

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Speaker 19: you have been crying tomorrow come to this country. So

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Speaker 19: some Vergian no, let me turn out our policy in sunshine.

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Speaker 16: So that was directed to Green MP's Lawrence Sunnan and

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Speaker 16: Francisco Hernandez, who are both of Asian descent, which the

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Speaker 16: Greens are taking exception to well.

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Speaker 20: To imply that a migrant cannot voice political views and

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Speaker 20: to dismiss political views because of someone's migrant background implies

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Speaker 20: a level of the soils to the country and that

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Speaker 20: is an issue that we take. But more than anything again,

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Speaker 20: this is about the harm that peace words horse outside

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Speaker 20: of these four walls.

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Speaker 16: So obviously they're not happy about that. Winston Peters today

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Speaker 16: was trying to wiggle out of it.

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Speaker 8: Well.

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Speaker 21: I was talking about two people jeering and shouting from

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Speaker 21: the back benches, the debates of no moments then, and

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Speaker 21: I was putting out it in the all historical parliamentary

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Speaker 21: debating fashion. If you can't take it, go somewhere else. Oh,

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Speaker 21: are you too soft for the next question?

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Speaker 16: So, as per usual, he turned the questions back on us.

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Speaker 16: And that's of course that's not what he means. You

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Speaker 16: could just go back and physically see what he said

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Speaker 16: written down. He's absolutely out of line in terms of

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Speaker 16: what he's implying here and what he said. Meanwhile, the

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Speaker 16: Greens are also calling out Shane Jones from the same

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Speaker 16: party for heckling in the house as well. Now it's

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Speaker 16: a little hard to hear have a listen of.

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Speaker 5: Human life decreases, but it's not just about human life.

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Speaker 16: So he yells, send the Mexicans home. See if you

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Speaker 16: can make it up when I play it again.

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Speaker 5: Of human life decreases, but it's.

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Speaker 16: Not just so the Greens say, it's a reference to

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Speaker 16: the fact that Ricardo Menandez March a Green MP, is

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Speaker 16: from Mexico. So a little bit more explaining for New

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Speaker 16: Zealand first to do again, it's like you pick any

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Speaker 16: day from the political calendar in the last twenty five

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Speaker 16: years and we're back to back to the future.

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Speaker 3: Really fantastic. What is the day two and we're xenophobia

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Speaker 3: and racism top of the agenda? Jason, as I mean

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Speaker 3: it as expected, right, I shouldn't have anything different, dear me.

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Speaker 3: Jason Wall's News Talk seedb's political editor with us from Wellington.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for that. Nine Away from five

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Speaker 3: Chris Bishop on speeding after well, not speeding. I shouldn't

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Speaker 3: say that, because you're not meant to speed. Everybody, remember

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Speaker 3: that is not what you're meant to do. But you

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Speaker 3: will be able to go one hundred kilometers an hour

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Speaker 3: in certain parts of New Zealand on our state highway

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Speaker 3: network from tonight roads that previously the speed limit was

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Speaker 3: reduced to eighty ks. Now, question for the Greens, so

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Speaker 3: after they have accused New Zealand first have being xenophobic

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Speaker 3: towards them, are they also then going to condemn to

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Speaker 3: Party Maldi for being racist against Act. What a tangled

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Speaker 3: web we weave nine to five, putting.

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Speaker 1: The time questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 22: We're suddenly debating potential asset sales all over again. Last

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Speaker 22: time we did this, of course, was under John Key,

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Speaker 22: who is, well, it's doing a bigger fish to fry

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Speaker 22: in the things.

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Speaker 2: We want the boat to go fast.

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Speaker 23: There's a lillion things you can do from caving bureaucracy

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Speaker 23: and Texas at a foreign invest with all those kinds

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Speaker 23: of things.

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Speaker 24: If you want my view, they'll make the boat go

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Speaker 24: a lot faster than a few sits lf because frankly,

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Speaker 24: there ain't a hell of a lot to self good.

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Speaker 22: I'm glad you said that because I was trying to

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Speaker 22: work out what's left of genuine.

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Speaker 23: Value when we sold forty nine percent of the Jen

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Speaker 23: Taylor's Contacts and Genesis, so at least you actually sold

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Speaker 23: out the balance of that.

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Speaker 2: I'm not really sure what's around.

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Speaker 22: Back tomorrow at six am the mic asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 22: the Rain drove of the Laugh News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: It is five to five lots of feedback coming in

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Speaker 3: after we spoke to Jason Wall's out of Parliament. That's

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Speaker 3: on the issue of To Party Malory and what they've

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Speaker 3: said about act and then what Winston Peter says about the.

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Speaker 15: Hi.

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Speaker 3: Ryan, I am part Malory and I find what to

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Speaker 3: Party Malory has done today to be disgraceful and degrading behavior.

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Speaker 3: Bruce says, clearly people aren't racist. If clearly people aren't racist,

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Speaker 3: if they left when leaning mainstream media don't call it out,

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Speaker 3: it only applies to Paquiha apparently, says Bruce. I guess

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Speaker 3: you're talking about the Tapati Mardi stuff. Ryan, with all

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Speaker 3: the pathetic goings on with the moaning in the New

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Speaker 3: Zealand about Maudi or about race, no wonder young people

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Speaker 3: are leaving in their droves. We're not focusing on the

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Speaker 3: right issues. I tend to agree with that. I think

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Speaker 3: we have very big fish to fry and having arguments. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: this is day two in Parliament and we are shout

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Speaker 3: having a screaming match about who's racist and who's xenophobic

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Speaker 3: on both sides, on both sides. Well, let's talk about

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Speaker 3: something more positive. Dolphins quite a cool thing. You know,

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Speaker 3: dolphins normally you'll see them in a small little group,

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Speaker 3: a little pod sort of ten twenty maybe thirty max

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Speaker 3: and the central coast of California a very unusual super

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Speaker 3: pod of wait for it, fifteen hundred dolphins all crew

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Speaker 3: us together. Can you just imagine, just stop for a second,

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Speaker 3: think about how cool that would look. And there was

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Speaker 3: a couple of lucky scientists who were on a boat

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Speaker 3: who were looking at this. There's a quote here from

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Speaker 3: one of them. They were just having a great time.

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Speaker 3: They were breaching everywhere, as tails were slapping, coming right

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Speaker 3: on over to the boat. They looked like they were

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Speaker 3: having a big party. And I started to think, what

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Speaker 3: would fifteen hundred dolphins be doing together at one time?

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Speaker 3: You know, is the super Bowl on? Is it like

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Speaker 3: the swimming championships? What are they doing together? Apparently this

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Speaker 3: happens semi regularly.

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Speaker 14: You know.

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Speaker 3: Normally they'll have their groups of twenty thirty whatever, they'll

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Speaker 3: just come together and the more of more of them

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Speaker 3: will come together, like they're at Westfield and they were

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Speaker 3: swimming south, so they're sort of migrating apparently at this time. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: I thought that was quite a nice thing to read today,

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Speaker 3: so I mentionine that, but fifteen hundred all at once

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Speaker 3: probably a bit deafening. News is next yourself.

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Speaker 11: To the matselfe Pressonal.

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Speaker 2: Moley, Liberal.

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Speaker 1: Questions, answers, facts analysis, The drive show you trust for

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Speaker 1: the full picture. Brian Bridge on Heather Duplicy allan drive

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Speaker 1: with one New Zealand Let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 8: At be Good evening.

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Speaker 3: It is seven after five. Speed limits are going back

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Speaker 3: up again from tonight thirty eight sections of the state

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Speaker 3: highway network they'll return to their previously higher speed limits.

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Speaker 3: This will all happen by July.

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Speaker 8: First.

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Speaker 3: The first to see the increase State Highway two between

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Speaker 3: Featherston and Masterton run over the room attackers from Wellington

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Speaker 3: Transport Minister Chris Bishop is with us. Good afternoon, Good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: So what's taking so some will start happening tonight. What's

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Speaker 3: the whole But with all the others, Oh.

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Speaker 24: It's just so that NZTA can over the next few

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Speaker 24: weeks as they do sort of routine maintenance and upgrades

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Speaker 24: and all the other things that they do on roads,

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Speaker 24: they do them at the same time, which saves some

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Speaker 24: money and makes it more efficient. But they'll all be

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Speaker 24: done by the first of July. But we're doing that

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Speaker 24: wire Apple one straight away because it's the one that's

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Speaker 24: caused the most community angst and it's also the easiest

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Speaker 24: to do because it's a long straight section of road

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Speaker 24: and anyone who's driven it knows it's ridiculous. It's eighty

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Speaker 24: right now. It's enormously frustrating for motorists there. So it's

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Speaker 24: going back up to one hundred and that will happen overnight.

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Speaker 24: So as of tomorrow morning, you can drive on one

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Speaker 24: hundred on that section of rowd.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic, fantastic news, because I drive that quite a bit

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Speaker 3: and they reckon. You'll only get it'll only take three

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Speaker 3: minutes off your journey. But I have to struggled to

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Speaker 3: believe that. I think that it added much more going

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Speaker 3: eighty k's along there.

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Speaker 24: I was a bit surprised when I read that myself.

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Speaker 24: I sort of thought it'd be a bit more than

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Speaker 24: three minutes. That's the official advice, but you know, some

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Speaker 24: people's journeys will be a bit quicker, little bit slower,

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Speaker 24: but depending on the time of day and what they're

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Speaker 24: driving and all that. So, but yeah, look, definitely be

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Speaker 24: a time saying.

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Speaker 3: You know, when they come up with this advice, do

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Speaker 3: they actually go and sit in the car and start

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Speaker 3: the timer or do they just do a calculation from Wellington?

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Speaker 3: Because I think that's part of the at least this

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Speaker 3: is what the locals there think. This is part of

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Speaker 3: the problem with this whole issue. You've got someone sitting

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Speaker 3: in an office in Wellington or maybe Auckland mapping out

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Speaker 3: the road and it's got so many bends in it,

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Speaker 3: you know it can only handle eighty k's without actually

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Speaker 3: going and looking at it.

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Speaker 24: That has definitely been part of the problem, There's no

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Speaker 24: question about that. So that the last government had an

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Speaker 24: approach which was basically speed is the only thing that matters,

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Speaker 24: and we're just going to blanketly lower the speed limit

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Speaker 24: all around the country, both local roads and state highways

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Speaker 24: and communities said hang on a minute, that there's bits

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Speaker 24: of the road that should be a bit lower. That's fine,

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Speaker 24: But actually this idea that you should just you know,

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Speaker 24: lower the whole estate highway too over in the wire

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Speaker 24: Rapper for example, down to eighty and pretend you're making

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Speaker 24: it safer.

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Speaker 3: That's nuts.

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Speaker 24: And so we've come in and said, exactly right, reverse

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Speaker 24: what they've done. And it's not to say that there

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Speaker 24: aren't bits of roads.

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Speaker 25: You know.

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Speaker 24: Take now the Napier Taupo Road for example, that's another

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Speaker 24: one that people get worked up about. There's bits of

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Speaker 24: that road where the speed limit should go down a

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Speaker 24: bit on some of the nasty corners and things like that.

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Speaker 24: But the default to go down to aiming it as

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Speaker 24: crazy as well. So it's the blanket approach that annoys people.

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Speaker 3: So we're reversing all of that. So, okay, fair enough.

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Speaker 3: So it's happening from tonight. What about the forty eight

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Speaker 3: roads were you're going to consult on? Why do you

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Speaker 3: need to consult with people? I thought you knew what

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Speaker 3: you were doing.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, So there's forty eight roads where there's there's mixed

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Speaker 24: community views about about the reductions, and they're also more complicated,

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Speaker 24: so there are some nasty sections of those roads. And

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Speaker 24: so that's precides the point I made before, where we're

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Speaker 24: going to consult on them. And it may be that

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Speaker 24: NCTA says the default will go back up to one hundred,

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Speaker 24: for example, but there'll be bits where we keep the

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Speaker 24: speed limit at a particular point.

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Speaker 3: So they'll take a bit of a horse labour says

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Speaker 3: if anyone dies on any of these roads from here

746
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Speaker 3: on out, the literally what they said is the blood

747
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Speaker 3: is on your hands.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, well they've got to work out what They've got

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Speaker 24: to work out what their position is. Becausechris kip Can

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Speaker 24: started the twenty twenty three I don't know if you

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Speaker 24: remember this by saying he was going to do a

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Speaker 24: bonfire of all the dumb policies from just sinder Ardouna.

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Speaker 24: One of them was the speed limit thing. That's what

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Speaker 24: he said they would do. Then they didn't actually do it.

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Speaker 24: And then Karen mcinnaughty who was the local MP over

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Speaker 24: in the wire Rapper you know, said a few weeks ago,

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Speaker 24: I looked m ZTA in the eye and they told

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Speaker 24: me they couldn't raise the speed on it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've just done what he's on about. There's no blood.

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Speaker 24: Well they've got to work out what their stances. All

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Speaker 24: three different Labour Party people have a different stance on

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Speaker 24: us as part of the course with those guys.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for your time. Appreciated, Chris Bishop,

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Speaker 3: Transport Minister. From tonight. If you live in Marsterton or

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Speaker 3: Featherston you will enjoy one hundred kilometers are now once

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Speaker 3: more on State Highway two eleven after five Rich The

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Speaker 3: main building at Auckland Hospital has no running hot water. Yes,

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Speaker 3: it's a problem and it's something to do with the pipes.

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Speaker 3: It may take seventy two hours to fix this problem.

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Speaker 3: Health New Zealand says there are mitigative mitigations in place

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Speaker 3: to ensure the hospital's usual clinical care will continue, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: Malcolm Mulholland's Chair of Patient Voice Alt he's with me tonight, Malcolm,

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Speaker 3: good evening. Okay, Rian, what have you heard about this?

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Speaker 3: What's going on here?

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Speaker 26: Yeah?

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Speaker 27: So I heard that one of the water pipes burst

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Speaker 27: yesterday and that it could take up to seventy two

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Speaker 27: hours to rectify the situation. But Unfortunately, it's affecting Building

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Speaker 27: thirty two and those who are familiar with Auckland Hospital

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Speaker 27: would know that's the main building in New Zealand's biggest

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Speaker 27: hospital where most of not all patients are housed in

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Speaker 27: the wards and this is.

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Speaker 3: The maternity ward that's affected, right, so.

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Speaker 27: Well, yeah, amongst others, amongst others. So it's maternity wards.

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Speaker 27: It's most people who are receiving care in the wards

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Speaker 27: who are affected by this, whether it be cardiovascular or renal,

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Speaker 27: you name it, they're affected.

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Speaker 3: Right, Is there a I mean, can can they shower

789
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Speaker 3: like your new mums have just had babies? Do you

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Speaker 3: know what's going on there? Or are there? Can they

791
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Speaker 3: go somewhere else?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 27: So they're going to have to be transported away from

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Speaker 27: the maternity ward to another part of Auckland Hospital in

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Speaker 27: order for them to have a shore. That's certainly not

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Speaker 27: ideal for mothers who have just given birth, keeping in

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Speaker 27: mind some would have hit suffered a traumatic birth and

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Speaker 27: so their bodies will be sore and transporting them around

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Speaker 27: certainly isn't the recommended stendard of care. As well as

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Speaker 27: that they've got on top of that, whether or not

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Speaker 27: they take their new born with them because some of

802
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Speaker 27: course will require.

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Speaker 3: Breastfeeling goodness, mate, thank you, Malcolm. Malcolm A holand patient

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Speaker 3: voice ALTA A chair on the main building at Auckland

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Speaker 3: Hospital with no running water. I mean it's not ideal,

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Speaker 3: is that when you don't have pipes that work in

807
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Speaker 3: our hospitals to get people hot water, to have a shower,

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Speaker 3: or presumably to sterilize equipment. I mean obviously Health New

809
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Speaker 3: Zealand test said I've got things under control. So I

810
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Speaker 3: guess you could have believe that, don't you until you

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Speaker 3: know otherwise? The doomsday clock. I'll tell you more about

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Speaker 3: that coming up in a second. Your texts on the

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Speaker 3: speed limits and the roads. Plus we're looking at that

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Speaker 3: new convention center in Wellington, you know, the one that

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Speaker 2: Two, Ryan Bridge.

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Speaker 3: It has just gone eighteen minutes after five. The three

847
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Speaker 3: rate payer funded exhibitions at Wellington's one hundred and eighty

848
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Speaker 3: million dollar Convention Center. Yes I did say that correctly.

849
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Speaker 3: Nearly two hundred million dollars for this thing have flopped.

850
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Speaker 3: The latest failed to break even. The Doctor Who Worlds

851
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Speaker 3: of Wonder ran from June to October, displaying props from

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Speaker 3: the show set. Wellington City cou Council documents show the

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Speaker 3: exhibit made a loss, but the council is refusing to

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Speaker 3: say how big the deficit was. It comes after a

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Speaker 3: Marvel and a Jurassic World exhibition earlier also failed to

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Speaker 3: break even or they missed their targets. Counselor Diane Colvit

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Speaker 3: is with me this evening, Diane, Hello, Hi Ryan. This

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Speaker 3: sounds like a bit of a sad story.

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Speaker 28: Really Yeah, Well, I mean I think it's sad also

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Speaker 28: because we're just trying to get information that should be

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Speaker 28: available publicly, or at least some of it.

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Speaker 29: I can understand some of the commercial sensitivities about perhaps

863
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Speaker 29: some of the visitor numbers, but repairs, you have a

864
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Speaker 29: right and to know how much does it cost them

865
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Speaker 29: against what was actually originally budgeted for, Because if we

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Speaker 29: don't deal with it openly, how can we look for

867
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Speaker 29: improvements and how can we action those improvements that I'm

868
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Speaker 29: sure you know we can do, because look, I went

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Speaker 29: to the Marvel one and I was bitterly disappointed. I

870
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Speaker 29: think it costs was about eighty five dollars ahead, and yeah,

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Speaker 29: it just it just was not value for money.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So you're saying the council has put some money

873
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 3: in at some stage to this doctor who thing to

874
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Speaker 3: make it to get it here.

875
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Speaker 2: I believe so.

876
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Speaker 30: But again, you know, when we saw the news article

877
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Speaker 30: this morning, it obviously came to surprise to a number

878
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Speaker 30: of us, and so I know and others have gone

879
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 30: back asking for information and we're still trying to obtain that.

880
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was surprised to see that as well. I

881
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 3: mean saying it's commercially sensitive to say how many people went.

882
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 3: I mean, what implication would that have for a commercial operation,

883
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 3: especially one that's already been held.

884
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 31: Look, I can't answer that, But what I'd also be

885
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 31: asking is why why would we be agreeing to something

886
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 31: like that as well, especially when repairs funds, you know,

887
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Speaker 31: are a risk.

888
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 3: So who how are they able to do this unilaterally?

889
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: Do they not have to ask for your permission? Or

890
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 3: do you are you giving them too big a budget

891
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: that they're able to throw money at doctor?

892
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 26: Who?

893
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 28: Well you could you know, Look, I think we just

894
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Speaker 28: need to find out how how these things get approved.

895
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Speaker 28: I know there was there's generally a small committee that

896
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Speaker 28: will approve these exhibitions. And look, sometimes you do take

897
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 28: a bit of a risk, but when you you know,

898
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Speaker 28: if things don't turn out, you need to be open

899
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 28: about saying what could we have done differently, what could

900
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 28: we have done better? And if we've had three exhibitions

901
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 28: that have not delivered, we really need to say what

902
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 28: are we not doing right in these things? And we

903
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 28: really have we haven't had that conversation or even seen

904
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Speaker 28: the information.

905
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 3: Diane, Thanks for your time doing COVID the Wellington City

906
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 3: councilor on the Convention Center and Wellington doing not so well.

907
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 3: But more importantly the fact that the council thinks they

908
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: can just say commercial sensitivity like it's some magic wand

909
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: and you don't get to ask any questions about where

910
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 3: the money's going. That's not how it should be working.

911
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 3: Twenty one after five, when we come back the doomsday clock,

912
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 3: I'll give you my thoughts on that.

913
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 2: Checking the point of the story.

914
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Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge on Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with one

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Speaker 1: New Zealand let's get connected and new stalks.

916
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Speaker 3: That'd be five twenty four. Good evening to you. You

917
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 3: will see this story today, if you haven't already, you'll

918
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 3: hear about it tonight. You'll see it on the news.

919
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 3: Atomic scientists have pushed the clock to eighty nine seconds

920
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Speaker 3: before midnight. This is the doomsday clock. This is the

921
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Speaker 3: end of the world. And they are citing nuclear risk,

922
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Speaker 3: the threat of AI and the climate crisis as a warning.

923
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 3: And this is an example of when you start something

924
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Speaker 3: and you have to keep it going. That's what this

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Speaker 3: clock is. It was started back in nineteen forty seven

926
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Speaker 3: and Chicago after World War Two. It was during the

927
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Speaker 3: Cold War, was to warn about the threat of nuclear war.

928
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 3: And the threat of nuclear war is by and large

929
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Speaker 3: contained specially compared to what it was like during the

930
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Speaker 3: Cold War. And so now they're coming up with everything

931
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: under the sun. It's a grab bag of threats that

932
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 3: you might face, you know, threat the possibility that a

933
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 3: palm tree might fall on you as you walk home

934
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 3: this evening, the possibility that AI might some AI robot

935
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Speaker 3: might kill you on your way home tonight. They are

936
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 3: clutching its straws. Anyway, they've moved it by a second,

937
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Speaker 3: so it's now eighty nine seconds before midnight. But I

938
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Speaker 3: come back to this point about nuclear the threat of

939
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Speaker 3: nuclear war. Actually, the nuclear threat is not as relevant

940
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Speaker 3: today as it was during the Cold War. Yes, we

941
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Speaker 3: have nuclear weapons, but they are essentially doing their jobs.

942
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Speaker 3: They are deterring wars. You know, this idea of mutually

943
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: assured destruction means that nobody pushes the red button because

944
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 3: someone will push a red button back on you. So,

945
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 3: in a funny kind of a way, yes, we have

946
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Speaker 3: regional wars, we have proxy wars, but we don't have

947
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Speaker 3: world wars. And that is in large part because of

948
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Speaker 3: nuclear weapons. So in a roundabout kind of way, they

949
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 3: have sort of worked, which makes a mockery of the

950
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 3: doomsday clock, because they're destroying everything in there, everything and

951
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Speaker 3: anything they can in there to justify its existence. Twenty six,

952
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 3: after five lots of texts on the roads, Ryan, if

953
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 3: it's three minutes each way, This is from Steve. He's

954
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Speaker 3: done the maths on at the time saved from going

955
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: one hundred kilometers an hour versus eighty kilometers an hour

956
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: between Masterton and Featherstone. If it's three minutes each way

957
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 3: in time reduction, that's six minutes a day over five days.

958
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 3: That'll save you thirty minutes over a month. It'll save

959
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 3: you two hours of your life, which means over a

960
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 3: year it's twenty four hours of driving saved. Amazing. What

961
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Speaker 3: three minutes does? Puts it in perspective, doesn't it? Someone

962
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Speaker 3: else saying Ryan, I find that everybody is tailgating me

963
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 3: now that these speed limits have come down, so I'm

964
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Speaker 3: glad they're going back up. That's from Ben twenty seven,

965
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Speaker 3: after five on news talks, he'd be Tanya Tatsil after news.

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Speaker 2: After making the news, the news makers talk to Ryan first.

967
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Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge on hither Duplicylan drive with one New

968
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Speaker 1: Zealand let's get connected.

969
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Speaker 2: News talks, he'd be on the just have been with

970
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Speaker 2: a woman. I love how much your right leg.

971
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Speaker 3: Biding it is twenty five minutes away from sex. After sex,

972
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Speaker 3: we're going to talk to Fonterra. It's a going for

973
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Speaker 3: electricity over gas for their big boilers in the North

974
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Speaker 3: Island and that's going to cost them one hundred and

975
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Speaker 3: fifty million dollars. So this is not a cheap transition

976
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Speaker 3: for them to make. Are they making the right one

977
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Speaker 3: and doing it at the right time? We'll ask them

978
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Speaker 3: after six they huddle in just a few moments. Right now, though,

979
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Speaker 3: a political war of words is erupted over a police

980
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 3: operation that targeted trolley theft in thirteen arrests, nineteen trespassed,

981
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Speaker 3: forty five trolleys returned. Police have confirmed that some of

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Speaker 3: those arrested were homeless, and this is the point of contention.

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Speaker 3: The Multi Party says it's a direct attack by the

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Speaker 3: government on impoverished people. That MP Tom McClay says police

985
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 3: aren't targeting anyone, They're just focusing on combating theft and

986
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Speaker 3: antisocial behavior. That otterd amha Is Tanya tapsil kiled a

987
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 3: good afternoon. Sure to Ryan, do you have a problem

988
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 3: with police doing this?

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Speaker 26: Absolutely not. In fact, we are incredibly grateful for the

990
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Speaker 26: police action in this because honestly, we're a small chown,

991
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Speaker 26: so when these trolleys get left around, it looks really

992
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 26: messy and we've tried a lot as counsel. By the way,

993
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Speaker 26: cost us five thousand dollars a month when we were

994
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Speaker 26: trying to fix it up. Our businesses have been fantastic.

995
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Speaker 26: They're trying their best to achieve trolleys within forty eight hours.

996
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Speaker 26: But end of the day, these homeless are stealing somebody

997
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 26: else's property, using it in an appropriate way and then

998
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 26: just jumping them in places. It's been a mess.

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Speaker 3: You don't just not arrest someone because they're homeless, right.

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Speaker 26: Oh, absolutely, And actually, to be fair, the police alongside council,

1001
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Speaker 26: we've gone really hard on reducing homelessness. So you know,

1002
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Speaker 26: the council we've managed to reduce the motels way up

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Speaker 26: to eighty percent, so we don't have as many homeless

1004
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Speaker 26: as we used to, by the way, But actually when

1005
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Speaker 26: we do come across homeless, they're given support, they're connected

1006
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Speaker 26: to services that they need. Even we have City Safe

1007
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Speaker 26: Guardians that walk around and we've just sent them out

1008
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Speaker 26: with nurses as well, because you know, some of these

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Speaker 26: homeless do need help and that help is there if

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Speaker 26: they want it, some choose not to take it.

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Speaker 3: Why was it costing five thousand a month to pick

1012
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 3: up the trolleys because there was a.

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Speaker 26: Lot, so up to two hundred and sixty on an

1014
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Speaker 26: average month. But what the problem was is we were

1015
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Speaker 26: having to employee start well direct, redirect stuff from the

1016
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 26: core business they should be doing, to actually take their trucks,

1017
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Speaker 26: pick up these trolleys, drop them off to the right

1018
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Speaker 26: supermarkets or you know, kmarts, and it was taking a

1019
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Speaker 26: lot of time. You add that up, that's five thousand

1020
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Speaker 26: dollars a month that we do not want to keep spending.

1021
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 3: What do you think of to Percy Mardy who said

1022
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 3: that this is an attack by the government.

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Speaker 26: On poor people, absolutely ridiculous to be honest, and that's

1024
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 26: really unfair on this government who has prioritized reducing crime.

1025
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 26: And if you do the crime, then you should be

1026
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 26: caught and you should have some consequences. And I agree

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Speaker 26: with that because in also we got sick of having

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00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 26: these social issues that came from homelessness. We are very

1029
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 26: lucky to live in a country where there is support available,

1030
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 26: either financial or through emergency housing. You do not have

1031
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 26: to be homeless, but if you choose to steal other

1032
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 26: people's property act in intimidating ways. Now, I remember it

1033
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 26: did say in the articles it was made public that

1034
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 26: some of these people being arrested already had other issues

1035
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Speaker 26: for arrests, such as trespass, violent offenses, you know, the

1036
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Speaker 26: breaching bail conditions. Some of these people are not helping us,

1037
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Speaker 26: but they're not helping themselves either. Will see decisions.

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Speaker 3: Tanya taps todo a mere thanks for your time, just

1039
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Speaker 3: gone twenty two to.

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Speaker 1: Six The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty Elevate

1041
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 1: the marketing of your home on The Huddle tonight.

1042
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Speaker 3: Q and a host and host of Saturday Mornings on

1043
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 3: z B, Jack Taim Hey, Jack Kilder, right, good to

1044
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 3: have you on the show. Marris Williamston's here upland counselor

1045
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 3: as well, Kilda Morris, Hi.

1046
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 8: Rion, Hi Jack. I shouldn't have said that hijack on

1047
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 8: a plane, Morris on a plane, correct, I.

1048
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 3: Just got that right. Let's talk speeds on the roads. Maris,

1049
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 3: you look like someone who wants to go fast.

1050
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 12: Well, I was Minister of Transport for some years and

1051
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 12: I argued against this that is Zalots always wanting to

1052
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 12: go with blanket speed reductions. Look, there are some roads

1053
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 12: where you need low speeds, some of the back roads

1054
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 12: out of Auckland here where there's lots of curly twisty bends.

1055
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 8: One hundred k's inappropriate.

1056
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 12: But the Zalots and I include the last Labor government,

1057
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 12: decided we'll have a blanket reduction of speeds right across

1058
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 12: the board. Now, if you look at the Packer Hanger

1059
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 12: Highway here where were three lanes either way it was

1060
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 12: sixty k and they just put it down to fifty.

1061
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 12: Nobody does it, not even the vicar on his way

1062
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 12: to church. And it just created so much anger at

1063
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 12: just copped an unbelievable and a flat for the stupid

1064
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Speaker 12: decisions of putting the speed limits down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jack, how do you feel about this? Because that

1066
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 3: I mean the left is saying and Labour's saying, this

1067
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 3: is going to mean that people die and then the

1068
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 3: government will have blood on their hands because they're the

1069
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 3: ones that made the change. Revest the blanket bank.

1070
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Speaker 32: I think there's always a tension with speed limits, and

1071
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Speaker 32: it doesn't actually matter what the speed limit anywhere is.

1072
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 32: I mean, if if you have unlimited speed limits everywhere,

1073
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Speaker 32: you're going to have more deaths on the road, and inevitably,

1074
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Speaker 32: where speed limits are higher, you have greater risk of death.

1075
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Speaker 32: So I think you know you have to you have

1076
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Speaker 32: to balance those concerns with productivity. And I think Morris

1077
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 32: is right in that a blanket approach to reducing speed

1078
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Speaker 32: limits doesn't work.

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Speaker 8: Ideally.

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Speaker 32: You want to go round with much more precision and say, actually,

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Speaker 32: this is a well engineered road, this is a relatively

1082
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 32: safe area. We think that we can safely maintain a

1083
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Speaker 32: speed limit at the current level without having a blanket

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Speaker 32: kind of approach. And you know, that's obviously where a

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Speaker 32: lot of the pushbackers come. But you know, when you

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Speaker 32: go back and you reverse the speed limits, you know inevitably,

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Speaker 32: you know you do. You do risk the possibility that

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Speaker 32: there could be serious accents, there could be deaths, and

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Speaker 32: you know, and if in the future that comes to bear,

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Speaker 32: and we all hope it doesn't, you can be sure

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Speaker 32: that the opposition is going to come out and say

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Speaker 32: this is because the decision your government's made.

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Speaker 8: But Brian, one of those was out of schools.

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Speaker 12: They wanted to put a blanket down to thirty k

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Speaker 12: outside of schools full stop. Now, let me just give

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Speaker 12: you a quick number here, the number of hours in

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Speaker 12: a year where schools have got kids arriving and leaving.

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Speaker 12: Given there's six weeks at Christmas they're not there, and

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Speaker 12: there's three other lots of two week holidays, and there's

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Speaker 12: Saturdays and Sundays they're not there, those hours come to

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Speaker 12: four percent of the year where kids are arriving and

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Speaker 12: leaving school. Now, do you want to put a blanket

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Speaker 12: down to thirty k for the entire year, or how

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Speaker 12: about you have a differential speed zone just for the

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Speaker 12: times when the kids are in danger.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't make much sense to me why this

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Speaker 3: was changed in the first place. But anyway, here we

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Speaker 3: are they're doing. They're reversing that change, although they are

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Speaker 3: consulting on a whole bunch more.

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Speaker 8: Apparently for the rules you have to consult they're not

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Speaker 8: allowed to just make the change.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So where do these rules come from? Because Karen

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Speaker 3: McNulty was the Associate Minister of Transport and said that

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Speaker 3: he couldn't get a speed changed on his local road,

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Speaker 3: you've got the Minister of Transport unable to change speed

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Speaker 3: lim it's because he nd TA has too much power.

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Speaker 3: Who gave nz TA power? And can't you just take

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Speaker 3: it off them?

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Speaker 12: Well you can, and that's what Simeon Brown did by

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Speaker 12: changing the speed rule. The minister has to go out

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Speaker 12: and consult and then finally table a rule about how

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Speaker 12: new speed limits are set and so on, and that

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Speaker 12: you therefore, you can't just sit down and write an

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Speaker 12: executive order with a big signature on it and on

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Speaker 12: a black book like Trump does. But you've got to

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Speaker 12: consult and so on. But he Simon Brown did that,

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Speaker 12: got a whole new set of speed limit rules settings

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Speaker 12: in place, and as of the first of July, all

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Speaker 12: these new speed limits have to be and I'm just

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Speaker 12: delighted about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jack, the new press sect for the White House, Carolyn,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's leave it or leave it,

1133
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Speaker 3: but she left it all out there on the and

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Speaker 3: the briefing today and she's I mean, I kind of

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Speaker 3: like the style it's takeno prisoners. It's very direct, it's

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Speaker 3: the it's the antithesis of the last one.

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Speaker 32: It's well, yeah, of Biden's one year, but maybe not.

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Speaker 8: I can't.

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Speaker 32: I mean, Donald Trump went to a couple I think

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Speaker 32: in his first in his first term. Remember Spicer, he

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Speaker 32: was always was it Sean Spicer? He was, He was

1142
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Speaker 32: a character, and we went on to a distinguished career

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Speaker 32: as a contestant on Dancing with the Stars in the US.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 32: I mean it's very it's very on brand for Trump

1146
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 32: right to have someone, you know, go up and stand

1147
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Speaker 32: at the podium and decide to fight back. I mean,

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Speaker 32: I have no problem with her age, although for some

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Speaker 32: reason people seem to be moaning about that. I have

1150
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 32: no problem with that whatsoever. I do think it's curious

1151
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Speaker 32: that she's looking to open up accreditation for various other

1152
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Speaker 32: people in the in the White House Press briefing room.

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Speaker 32: You know, I have no problem with maybe bloggers and

1154
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Speaker 32: you know, even even podcast hosts having having an opportunity

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Speaker 32: to apply for accreditation. I do think influencers might be

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Speaker 32: where I draw the line. So someone who does no

1157
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Speaker 32: reporting whatsoever and just shills for companies through an Instagram channel, Yeah,

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Speaker 32: that's probably not someone I would necessarily want. You know,

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Speaker 32: you'd hope that people could at least apply a little

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Speaker 32: bit of scrutiny if they're in that position. But I

1161
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Speaker 32: suppose this is the Trump way.

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Speaker 8: And that room is so dreadfully small.

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Speaker 12: It doesn't look it on TV, but it's so incredibly

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Speaker 12: it's really tiny. So when you get your CNNs and

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Speaker 12: Fox and all of the mainstream media in the first

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Speaker 12: few rows, there's no room for anybody else. If you

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Speaker 12: think of how many bloggers there are in the United

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Speaker 12: States and how many influences, that you could put it

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Speaker 12: in the Boody Grand Stadium.

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Speaker 3: That all the scene in people are being fined, you see,

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Speaker 3: so there'll be plenty of room. I would have thought

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Speaker 3: the new media.

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Speaker 12: I just think what a contrast to the last one.

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Speaker 12: We're Biden would not come out of his little room.

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Speaker 12: He wouldn't take any questions from anybody unless he was

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Speaker 12: walking to the helicopter, and then he couldn't hear the

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Speaker 12: question and you couldn't hear his answer. I mean, Trump's

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Speaker 12: done more press conferences since he's been elected than Biden

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Speaker 12: did in the last year.

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Speaker 3: Very true. Jack Taym Morris Williamson on the Huddle back

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Speaker 3: in a second to.

1182
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Speaker 2: The Huddle with New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Southerby's international realty, local and global exposure like.

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Speaker 3: No other thirteen to six. So it's been a disappointing

1185
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Speaker 3: start to the parliamentary year. I think anyway this year,

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Speaker 3: this week in Parliament we've had to Party Maldy call

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Speaker 3: the Children's Minister Karen Shaw basically saying she's not Moldy enough,

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Speaker 3: she has a Maldy fucker papa, she fuck up is Maldy.

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Speaker 3: And today they said you don't know the essence of

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Speaker 3: being Maldy. I mean, how can you say that to

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Speaker 3: a Maldy woman. Anyway. Then we've also had from the

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Speaker 3: Greens accusations that Winston Peters has been xenophobic towards them.

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Speaker 3: So we're all focused on the right issues. Marris Williamson

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Speaker 3: on the panel with us and Jack Tame. Marris, I

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Speaker 3: just shake my head, honestly, I know.

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Speaker 12: I mean, it's just a tragedy that it isn't a

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Speaker 12: debate on real issues and things that affects people's lives,

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Speaker 12: changes their pocket their pocketbooks, thaty've got some more money.

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Speaker 12: I think Karen Shew is a particularly good minister, and

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Speaker 12: I think with her background as having been awarded a

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Speaker 12: state and so on, she's a perfect person to be

1202
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Speaker 12: in that role. She knows it's sort of inside out.

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Speaker 12: I've got a lot of respect for that Lady Jack.

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Speaker 3: A lot of the media, a lot of the texts

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Speaker 3: coming in is saying, oh, the media doesn't give the

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Speaker 3: Party Mahdi the same hard time that they would give Winston,

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Speaker 3: for example, over something he might have said. Do you

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Speaker 3: think there's truth in that?

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Speaker 32: Well, speaking speaking personally here, No, and anyone who thinks

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Speaker 32: that is welcome to go on to the Q and

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Speaker 32: a YouTube page. Look at my most recent interviews with

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Speaker 32: to Party Mahdi. My several most recent interviews with To

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Speaker 32: Party Mardi going back several years, in which case, every

1214
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Speaker 32: single time I've interviewed these party leaders, I've challenged them

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Speaker 32: about some of the language they choose to use. You know,

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Speaker 32: I think the language is really ugly. I think the

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Speaker 32: language today suggesting that Karen Chaw doesn't understand the essence

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Speaker 32: of being Mahdi wasn't as insulting as some of the

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Speaker 32: other really deeply personal things that To Party Mardi MP's

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Speaker 32: have said to the minister. That doesn't make it okay.

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Speaker 32: I'm not suggesting that it's okay for a moment, but

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Speaker 32: I think it's a very very deliberate tactic. It plays

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Speaker 32: very well with To Party Maori's supporters and actually sometimes

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Speaker 32: I wonder if maybe a bit of response from from

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Speaker 32: the you know, from those people who are most concerned

1226
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Speaker 32: about this language is actually not to give it the

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Speaker 32: attention that it is so clearly designed to attract, because

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Speaker 32: they know exactly what they're doing when they're using this

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Speaker 32: kind of language.

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Speaker 3: It's hard, though, isn't it, because then you've got you know,

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Speaker 3: remember the Tyger White Tty campaign that said give nothing

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Speaker 3: to racism, and you know, call it out every time,

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Speaker 3: So it's like, well, what do you just ignore it

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01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 3: every time? Somebody doesn't you know?

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Speaker 32: Well, well, yeah, I mean, I just, I just I

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Speaker 32: don't know what the answer is necessarily, But I do

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Speaker 32: think that to party Maori clearly like this is by

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Speaker 32: design that the language that they choose to use from

1239
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 32: time to time, whether you like it or not, it's

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Speaker 32: it's very much by design.

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Speaker 23: They know how to they know how.

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Speaker 32: To get that, you know, get their party in the media.

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Speaker 32: They know issues in the media, well, they know they

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01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 32: know how to fire people up right, and you know, yeah,

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Speaker 32: I think it's perfectly legitimate from their perspective to be

1246
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 32: attacking Karen Chaor's policies. I think it's perfectly legitimate to

1247
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 32: be attacking Karen Chare as a minister, and indeed you

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Speaker 32: wouldn't expect anything less from an opposition party. I do

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Speaker 32: think when it comes to decorum in that forum, we

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01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 32: could actually expect pretty high higher standards of language around

1251
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Speaker 32: attacking people at a personal level.

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Speaker 12: And yeah, yeah, well what I find on Brian, what

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Speaker 12: I find unacceptable about it is that they are setting

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Speaker 12: themselves up as some sort of an arbiter and seeing,

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Speaker 12: we'll determine whether you're mari enough or whether you fit

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Speaker 12: the mold. I mean, she's been attacked before, is not

1257
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Speaker 12: being mari enough and all sorts of things like that.

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Speaker 12: That is just disgusting. That is absolutely disgraceful. Go for

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Speaker 12: the policies and say we don't accept your policy because

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01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 12: it's causing this much harm, and will do so. I

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Speaker 12: think that's a legitimate role for an opposition to do.

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Speaker 12: And while I was in Parliament I had heaps and

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Speaker 12: heaps of attacks on policies that I put in place

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Speaker 12: and was fine with it. But once you get into

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Speaker 12: that personal stuff for no reason. I mean, Karen Turea,

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Speaker 12: I think is a genuine decent lady who deserves a

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Speaker 12: bit of bit more respect than that sort of nonsense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough to Marris Williamson Augland Council. I thank

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Speaker 3: you for being on the huddle tonight. And Jack tame

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Speaker 3: q and, a host and host of Saturday mornings here

1271
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Speaker 3: on News Talk, said, B it is eight to six

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Speaker 3: red or.

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Speaker 1: Blue, Trump or Harris? Who will win the battleground states?

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Speaker 1: The latest on the US election. It's HEAs a duplicy

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Speaker 1: allan drive with one New Zealand. Let's get connected.

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Speaker 2: News Talks ed B.

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Speaker 3: News Talk said B it is six to two six.

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Speaker 3: After six we're going to talk, well, actually after six

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Speaker 3: thirty we're going to talk to Andrew Curtain from Milford

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Speaker 3: Asset Management. So that's just before the news at six

1281
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Speaker 3: thirty about the stocks and how they're bouncing back after

1282
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Speaker 3: the deep seat shock. Not bouncing back in an enthusiastic way,

1283
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 3: not like a big bounce, just a little tiny bounce. Yeah,

1284
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 3: like you dropped the bouncy ball rather than you threw

1285
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Speaker 3: it with force at the ground.

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Speaker 33: We've got a producer, Laura to city that it might

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Speaker 33: be a bit of what you'd call a dead cat bounce.

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Speaker 3: A dead cat bounce, that's what I'm looking for. Thank you. Now,

1289
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Speaker 3: the hospital business where the hot water at Auckland Hospital

1290
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Speaker 3: in the main building that was potentially going to be

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Speaker 3: off for seventy two hours. They are hoping they can

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Speaker 3: avoid that, so they've sent us a statement. This is

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01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 3: from Health New Zealand. There will be a full shutdown

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Speaker 3: now of the water system and Building thirty two from

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Speaker 3: six pm tonight. This is for all the cold and

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Speaker 3: hot water, so they're hoping. This is expected to last

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Speaker 3: for up to ten hours and will mean no tap

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Speaker 3: water will be available throughout the Building thirty two until

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Speaker 3: we have the issue resolved. They've got some questions and answers,

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Speaker 3: which I'm sure you have. Are there plans to move

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Speaker 3: any patients out of Building thirty two to another building

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Speaker 3: until the hot water is fixed? If not, will new

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Speaker 3: mums be transported from maternity services to other buildings for

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Speaker 3: a shower when they need one. No patients in Building

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Speaker 3: thirty two will not be moved. We have made plans

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Speaker 3: for new mothers to have access to a shower in

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Speaker 3: an unaffected part of hospital, So there you go. Other

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Speaker 3: than the maternity services, the only other services are affected

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Speaker 3: are approximately six hundred inpatient beds in that same building

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Speaker 3: and building thirty two. There you go. If you're there,

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01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 3: you'll probably already know about it. If you're not, they're

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Speaker 3: long and the short is there's no water for ten

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Speaker 3: hours potentially tonight. I mean, look, you want to say, oh,

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Speaker 3: the hospitals are underfunded and they're overrun, and you know,

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Speaker 3: somebody should have thought about the pipes. But at the

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Speaker 3: same time, this happens, doesn't it. I mean, it's a

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Speaker 3: big building, it's a commercial building. I'm sure it happens

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Speaker 3: to a lot of places. It just so happens that

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Speaker 3: when it happens to a hospital, you know, you think

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Speaker 3: the worst. A very good text here on the Nuclear Clock.

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Speaker 3: We are going to have an interview on then after

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Speaker 3: six thirty as well with a scientist, just to talk

1323
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Speaker 3: about how significant it is, David says on the Nuclear Clock, Ryan,

1324
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 3: all well and good about the ongoing deterrent nature of

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01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 3: a nuclear weapon, unless that is Donald Trump mistakes his

1326
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 3: nuclear button for his diet coke one, because they're apparently

1327
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 3: the same color, and it's true he does have a

1328
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Speaker 3: diet coke button. Coming up after six, We've got news next,

1329
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Speaker 3: and then Fonterra, What's Up, What's down?

1330
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 2: One with a major cause and how will it affect

1331
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 2: the economy.

1332
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Speaker 1: The big business questions on the Business Hour with Ryan

1333
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Speaker 1: Bridge News Talks.

1334
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Speaker 2: At b.

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Speaker 3: Good evening. It is seven after six on News Talks.

1336
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 3: Hed be coming up Janee Tips Trainee on the number

1337
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 3: of us who are switching banks as mortgage rates start

1338
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 3: to come down. Also, we are with Andrew Kurchaine Milford

1339
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 3: Asset Management on the tech stock dead cat bounce. Right

1340
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 3: now though, Fonterra is set to invest one hundred and

1341
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 3: fifty million dollars to convert its North Island gas boilers

1342
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 3: to electricity. It's a move that will lower its total

1343
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 3: gas use by almost forty Chris Caine is Fonterra's director

1344
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 3: of Global Engineering and Technical Hey Chris kira alro on,

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01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 3: how are you going? Yeah, really good, thank you. So

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Speaker 3: until now you've been converting your coal boilers. Why are

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Speaker 3: you now moving on to gas.

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Speaker 13: Well, we've always had a plan to convert gas boilers

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01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 13: at a point in time, but downstream security, they are

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01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 13: rising costs of gas and carbon just makes us an

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01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 13: opportune time for it to.

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Speaker 3: Get on with that. So it's what one hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty million dollars to do.

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Speaker 8: This is that right, that's correct.

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Speaker 13: There are the rights across three sites for Edgecomb and

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Speaker 13: a small portion at our White Eye site.

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Speaker 3: Is this in relation to in reaction to the gass

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01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 3: you know, spot price hikes that we've seen in recent times.

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Speaker 13: Well, look, we've got long term gas contracts in place,

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01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 13: so we're not so much affected by that. But you know,

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Speaker 13: as I mentioned, it's always no plan to get the

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01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:06,919
Speaker 13: fossil fuels and the security of supplies probably top of mind,

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01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 13: so it just made sense for us to bring that

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Speaker 13: forward a little bit.

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Speaker 3: The fact the government's saying they're going to open up

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01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 3: for oil and gas again, that doesn't change the situation

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Speaker 3: for you, I don't think so.

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Speaker 13: There our primary focus is and making sure we've got

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01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:22,719
Speaker 13: a reliable security energy source for our sites, very critical

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01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 13: to make sure we can process our farment's milk. So

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01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 13: they'll do what they have to do, but we'll have

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Speaker 13: to make the cause that is the best interests of Fonterra.

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Speaker 3: What'll it cost you to run electricity versus gas?

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Speaker 13: All wouldn't be able to share that with the offline.

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Speaker 13: But look, in the long run, we see gases getting

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Speaker 13: more expensive, we see carbon prices increasing, and we see

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Speaker 13: electricity as a reliable and economic, secure source of energy

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Speaker 13: for the future.

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Speaker 3: Will it be more expensive?

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01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 13: Initially it might be a tad more expensive, but in

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01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 13: the long run it'll be more economic, particularly aout of

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01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 13: the gas price as are going in carbon taks.

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01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,560
Speaker 3: A lot of people say this is ironic. You know

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01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 3: your Fonterra it's dairy. The impact that has on you know,

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01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 3: global warming versus a couple of boilers.

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Speaker 13: Well, maybe the case with an actual fact. You know,

1387
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 13: we're probably fifty percent of New Zealand's process heats, so

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01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 13: our scope one and two emissions are very large by

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01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 13: New Zealand context, and I think everything we do is

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01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 13: actually is great for the environment and great for our carbon.

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Speaker 3: Do you would all worry about the electricity sector more

1392
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 3: generally the fact that we are relying on electricity. We

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01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 3: have had problems with gas, and you know, we're largely renewable,

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01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 3: and then we have winters that don't do the things

1395
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 3: that we need it to do. We doesn't rain enough, whatever,

1396
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 3: we start to run into problems. Is that as legitimate

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01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 3: concern for you?

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01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 13: Look, maybe in the short term, I think in the

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01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 13: long term in New Zealand is a wonderful country for

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01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,600
Speaker 13: renewables generation. I don't think we have a problem with

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01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 13: I think the immediate and short and medium term problem.

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01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,759
Speaker 13: Short term problem is transmission distribution. So now these projects

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01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 13: of PHACE can then around at the back end of

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01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 13: twenty twenty six and then stage thirt firero probably towards

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01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,600
Speaker 13: twenty seven twenty eight. So we're pretty confident now we

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01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,560
Speaker 13: can get the transmission distribution up. We're very comfortable and

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01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 13: confident around the country's ability to supply renewable energy. So

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01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 13: I think in a long term that's the view we'll take,

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01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 13: and we're very comfortable with that.

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01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 3: And all said and done, once you've done made these

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01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 3: two major changes, how much of your operation will be

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01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 3: run by coal, how much by gas, how much by electricity?

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01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:34,839
Speaker 13: Well it's a good question. You know, the South Island

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01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 13: we're getting off coal very quickly, so we've got a

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01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 13: mixture of the coal and biomass, and it's framptly swhich

1416
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 13: are into biomass electricity. North Island we're heavily leveraged on

1417
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 13: gas because it's reticulated, so this is probably the first

1418
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 13: moving off gas there. So you know, electricity becomes a

1419
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 13: bigger portion I don't have the figures on the top

1420
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 13: of my head, but you know, give you some sints. Now,

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01:10:55,360 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 13: by twenty thirty will be fifty percent reduction emissions Scope

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01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 13: one and two, which means at only fifty to thirty

1423
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 13: fossil fills, and probably at the end of twenty seven

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01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 13: I think will be about thirty three percent of the

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01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 13: way There're so that gives you sort of an idea

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01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,560
Speaker 13: of that sort of trajectory towards renewables.

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01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 3: Okay, because you had hoped to be completely coal free

1428
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 3: by twenty thirties, is that still going to happen?

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01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 13: No, that's not correct.

1430
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 13: Twenty thirty seven is a ceceasion date for coal, and

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01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 13: that was always our targets about a coal by twenty

1433
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 13: thirty seven, and we are breaking the back of it

1434
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 13: at present and towards the end of the decade, but

1435
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 13: it will still some time to be totally off coal.

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01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 8: Are you?

1437
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 3: Are you but loose on that date?

1438
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 13: Well, twenty thirty seven is a firm date and we

1439
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 13: have to be before that. But you know, we have

1440
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:43,839
Speaker 13: to manage the workload, we have to manage a security

1441
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 13: of supply. So now I think we'll be before that date.

1442
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 13: But twenty thirty seven is a drop that date.

1443
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 3: Okay, what happens if you don't? You just have broken

1444
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 3: a promise. There's no agreement, your sign it.

1445
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 13: Won't it won't be an option because you know, as

1446
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 13: I say, twenty thirty seven there's a secession date. We

1447
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 13: won't have a conceit to burn coal after that, and

1448
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 13: we have public commitments and we have you know, security

1449
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 13: the supply. So again I'm confident will be before twenty

1450
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 13: thirty seven.

1451
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 3: We have to be all right, Chris, thank you very

1452
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 3: much for that. That's Chris Kane, the director Global Engineering

1453
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 3: and Technical at fon Terra. They are if you're just

1454
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 3: joining us, they're investing one hundred and fifty million dollars

1455
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 3: to convert their North Island gas boilers to electricity. It's

1456
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 3: twelve minutes after six. You're on News Talk CB. Andrew

1457
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 3: Curtain will be coming your way in a few moments

1458
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 3: time from Milt Milford Asset Management will look at the markets.

1459
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 3: But up next it's Tonde Tips training and we're going

1460
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 3: to talk about how many of you at the moment.

1461
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 3: Actually I said to my partners say, because we need

1462
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 3: to do this, the whole fixed you know readjust what

1463
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 3: do you call refix your mortgage? We have to do

1464
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,759
Speaker 3: that thing. And I said, let's just go shop around.

1465
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 3: Let's go, you know, flirt with some bankers and see

1466
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 3: what we can get. And that's what we're going to do.

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01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 3: That's the plan for next week anyway, because they're all

1468
01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 3: be just hungry at the moment, one't theyre chomping at

1469
01:12:59,960 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 3: the bitch try and get new business. Apparently we are

1470
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 3: not alone. Many of us are trying to do the

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01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 3: same thing right now. And Jane, I'll have more on that.

1472
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,759
Speaker 2: Next crunching the numbers and getting the results.

1473
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Speaker 1: It's Heather Dupi c Ellen, Width of Business hour and

1474
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Speaker 1: MAS insurance and investments, Grow your wealth, Protect your.

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Speaker 2: Future please talks eDV.

1476
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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of mobile companies out there claiming

1477
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 3: to be the best, but what does the best actually mean?

1478
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 3: For one end z, it means being exhaustively tested by

1479
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 3: independent benchmarking organization m LAT part of its censure who

1480
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 3: do this across more than one hundred and twenty countries globally,

1481
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 3: And boy is this testing thorough. It's like for light

1482
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 3: comparisons with the same devices on the same mobile package

1483
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,640
Speaker 3: at the same location performing the exact same action like

1484
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 3: downloading a movie, you're uploading a photo on a phone.

1485
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 3: They also supplement their scoring with crowdsource Starta, which covers

1486
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Speaker 3: ninety eight percent of New Zealand's population as sorry of

1487
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Speaker 3: population and guests who came out on top In twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four, out of our three big telcos, one en

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Speaker 3: Z's mobile network performed the best, winning for both voice

1490
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Speaker 3: and data. And that's the third year in a row

1491
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Speaker 3: one en Z had taken out this award. That is impressive.

1492
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 3: So if you're with one end Z, it's good to

1493
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Speaker 3: know you're already on New Zealand's best mobile network. If

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Speaker 3: you're not, check out one dot enz and join the winners.

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Speaker 2: Cry and Bridge.

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Speaker 3: You're on news Talk CREB. It is seventeen after six.

1497
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 3: It seems the mortgage wars are on. People are increasingly

1498
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,839
Speaker 3: shopping around for a better mortgage rate. Banks switching has surged.

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Speaker 3: In December, Training is The Herald's Wellington Business editor. Good evening,

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Speaker 3: Hey Ryan, nice to have you on Janay. How much

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01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 3: is being moved around here?

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01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 34: Well?

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01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 5: In December, which is the month that we have the

1504
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 5: latest dart available for two billion dollars of mortgage debt

1505
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 5: changed hands between banks and non banks. So that is

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Speaker 5: actually a record amount since at least twenty seventeen when

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01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 5: the Reserve Bank started publishing the start. Now, if you

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Speaker 5: look at that two billion dollars as a proportion of

1509
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 5: all the new mortgage mortgages written during the month, that

1510
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 5: makes up twenty five percent of that sum. So you know,

1511
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 5: in dollar terms and in percentage terms, that was really significant.

1512
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, for the month of December. Now, now

1513
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 5: we had seen it in prior months similarly large sums

1514
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 5: of money switch hands between banks and non banks. Now,

1515
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 5: the Reserve Bank data doesn't, you know, give you a

1516
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 5: reason for exactly what was going through a borrowers' minds

1517
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 5: and why they were doing it. But I talked to

1518
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 5: loan market mortgage advisor Bruce Patten earlier today and he said, basically,

1519
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 5: people were cha chasing lower interest rates.

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01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 23: So you know, they were.

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01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 5: Happy to pay in some instances, happy to pay break

1522
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 5: fees at their bank and give back any cash incentive

1523
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 5: that they received from the bank. They were happy to

1524
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 5: do that to get a deal, better deal from from

1525
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 5: a different bank.

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01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 3: Right, And do we know where they're coming from and

1527
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 3: where they're going to what does the data not get

1528
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 3: that into that kind of detail.

1529
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, the data doesn't get into that kind of detail.

1530
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 5: Another factor I think with this is that it has

1531
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 5: been easier for people to switch bank because people have

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01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 5: been fixing their mortgages at really short terms, like six

1533
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 5: months or a year. A lot of people have also

1534
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:30,719
Speaker 5: been putting their mortgages on floating rates. So actually, in November,

1535
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 5: which is the month where the newest data for nearly

1536
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 5: half of new mortgage debt was floating. So you know,

1537
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 5: if a lot of your mortgage is floating on a

1538
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 5: shorter term, a lot of it will expire. You know,

1539
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 5: it's easier to get it all to mature at the

1540
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 5: same time, so you could shift the whole lot to

1541
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 5: a new bank, you know, because you can't shift part

1542
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 5: of your mortgage for a new bank and keep part

1543
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 5: of it at the old bank.

1544
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 3: So I think that unless you want to cut your

1545
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:55,959
Speaker 3: house up, of course.

1546
01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 5: Exactly exactly, So you know, I think that that that

1547
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 5: has definitely made it easier for people to shift than

1548
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 5: if you were say, locked in for two years and

1549
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 5: you couldn't move because you had two years to go

1550
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 5: or something like that.

1551
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 3: That's interesting. So that might explain some of the big

1552
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 3: the big shift that's going on. Are the banks offering

1553
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 3: are they being competitive?

1554
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 5: Well, you know, that's that's the big question at the moment.

1555
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 5: Bruce Patton thinks it's not not not too competitive with

1556
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 5: those rates. You know, banks are maintaining their profit margins,

1557
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,799
Speaker 5: so they're cutting as much as they can, but their

1558
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 5: shareholders are certainly happy, you know, those bank profits have

1559
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 5: remained elevated. I had wondered as well whether perhaps people,

1560
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 5: you know, because there's been so much chat about bank

1561
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 5: competition and so on, I had wondered whether people who

1562
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 5: had gone to the mortgage brokers and said, oh, there's

1563
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 5: all this you know, chat on social media and in

1564
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 5: the news about bank competition, can you get me a

1565
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 5: better deal? But again, it's hard to sort of get

1566
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 5: sort of firm data on that. But but Bruce said,

1567
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 5: you know, people are all over social media on this stuff.

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01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 5: So they're in chat groups and they're on Facebook, and

1569
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,560
Speaker 5: they're all chatting about where the best deals are. You know,

1570
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 5: that does prompt a bit more engagement than there would

1571
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 5: have been, you know, back in the day before you

1572
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 5: could talk about your mortgage rate with your mates online

1573
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 5: or with strangers Gammy.

1574
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 3: Cases exactly today. Thank you for that fascinating stuff. Jena Trainey,

1575
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 3: New Zealand here Wellington Business Editor with us talking about

1576
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 3: the switcheroo that's going on as people try and get

1577
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 3: better deals, and so they should and it is good

1578
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 3: that people talk about it, you know, in the workplace,

1579
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:33,719
Speaker 3: when they say, don't tell your colleague what you get paid,

1580
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 3: because then you'll all start a revolution. It's not that

1581
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 3: rule does not apply outside of the workplace. When it

1582
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 3: comes to your mortgage. You should tell people what your

1583
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 3: rate is, and you should tell your friends, and you

1584
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 3: should join these websites and there's groups now where you

1585
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 3: can go on and tell people your branch, your bank,

1586
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 3: and what your mortgage interest rate is. And then the

1587
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 3: people who live in your neighborhood can go, well, excuse me, Barry,

1588
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 3: I happen to know that you've given this person this rate,

1589
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 3: and therefore you should give me the same rate. Twenty

1590
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 3: one after six.

1591
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 2: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1592
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 1: Give a business hour with Ryan Bridge on Newstalks B

1593
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 1: six twenty four.

1594
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,759
Speaker 3: Let's got Andrew Curtain Milford Asset Management. Andrew good Evening,

1595
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 3: Hi right, how are you. Yeah, really well, thanks, good

1596
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 3: to have you on the show. Techtoks the kind of

1597
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 3: coloring back at half their losses today.

1598
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 30: Yeah, that's right.

1599
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,520
Speaker 23: We had a one point five percent rally in the Nasdaq,

1600
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 23: which is against the three percent full yesterday. What's what's

1601
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 23: good of going on today is people starting to learn

1602
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 23: a little bit more about this Chinese company, Deep Seek,

1603
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 23: which is an AIA model company and came up yesterday

1604
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 23: announced and it had models almost as good as Chat GPT,

1605
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 23: sort of the leading model player. But people now started

1606
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 23: to learn that, you know, maybe this is actually good

1607
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 23: for the AI industry. Maybe this is good for the

1608
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 23: overall market because if you've got sort of fast improvements

1609
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 23: in AI model efficiencies, that means everyone's going to be

1610
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 23: able to access generative AI earlier and at a lower

1611
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 23: cost points. So really the market's starting to consider is

1612
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 23: this a positive thing?

1613
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 3: Who's most affected by that? And I'm talking negative here,

1614
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 3: who's most affected by this or the tech firms?

1615
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 23: Yeah, we think the big loser is the unlisted company

1616
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:26,919
Speaker 23: Open Ai. This is a company that owns Chat GBT.

1617
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 23: It's sort of considered the model or the AI model

1618
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 23: leader at the moment in the world, and deep Seek

1619
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 23: is now showing that with you know, actually a lot

1620
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 23: lot lower cost people talking about between ten to twenty

1621
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 23: times lower cost. Is built a model which is which

1622
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 23: is almost as good or.

1623
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 2: As good as chat GPT.

1624
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 23: So they're sitting their loser, they'll be they'll be panicking

1625
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 23: at the moment and trying to sort of work out

1626
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 23: what to do the next Probably the next biggest loser

1627
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 23: or the company that say has got a higher risk

1628
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 23: level now is Nividia. So Nividia benefits from selling a

1629
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 23: lot of high performance chips to companies like open Ai. Now,

1630
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:05,480
Speaker 23: if you've just made models more efficient, you don't necessarily

1631
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 23: need as many of these chips. So Nividia is, let's say,

1632
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 23: the risk that people might not be buying as many

1633
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 23: of these chips from Nibdia has gone higher. We'll get

1634
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 23: a bit more color from this and when we have

1635
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 23: Microsoft and Meta Results reporting tomorrow morning, and they should

1636
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 23: talk a little bit about sort of outlook for Capex,

1637
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 23: which basically means how many chips are they going to

1638
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 23: buy from Niberdya.

1639
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 3: It's interesting because what Donald Trump's reaction has been is like, well,

1640
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 3: this is great for competition. We should have been on

1641
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 3: the ball with this. China's actually doing something right here,

1642
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 3: and I guess they'll now be looking at Deep Seat

1643
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 3: as they did with TikTok for national security concerns.

1644
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 8: That's right.

1645
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 23: There's actually anouncement overnight from the White House who came

1646
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 23: out and said that the National Security Council is reviewing

1647
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 23: the implications of deep Seek. And they've also said, and

1648
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 23: Trump's been saying this the last couple of days, that

1649
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,759
Speaker 23: it's a wake up call to the American AI industry.

1650
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 23: So put this in context, Trump is really pro American

1651
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 23: AI leadership. He wants America to dominate the AI industry,

1652
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 23: so he's going to do everything he can to make

1653
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:10,759
Speaker 23: sure America maintains this leadership.

1654
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 3: And here at home, the only real big mover was Infantil.

1655
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,680
Speaker 23: The inverto was down four percent yesterday, down I think

1656
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 23: another one and a half percent or so today. The

1657
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 23: reason for that is Invitel's largest investment is a data

1658
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 23: center company called CDC. So yeah, same sort of theory

1659
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 23: with Navidia having high levels of risk that maybe there's

1660
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 23: going to be less growth in data centers over coming years.

1661
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 23: But you know, it's hard to tell us early stages.

1662
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 8: CDC is sort of the very.

1663
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 23: Good business and who's doing well, so the market's kind

1664
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 23: of racked in first and probably digestive information.

1665
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 3: Good on it. Great to have you on the show,

1666
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 3: Andrew Andrew Curtaine, Milford Asset Management, twenty eight minutes after

1667
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 3: six coming up after the news that doomsday cop Do

1668
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 3: we bother listening? Are we counting? Are we checking down

1669
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 3: and worrying and stressing it about this or do we just.

1670
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 2: Ignore the clock, encroaching the numbers and getting the results.

1671
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 2: It's Ryan Bridge with the Business Hour on News Talks NB.

1672
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 3: Feeling down make you even twenty four away from seven

1673
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 3: News TALKSB. Earlier we were talking about the lithium iron

1674
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:31,679
Speaker 3: batteries and the numbers are quite interesting. So the number

1675
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 3: of fires that they think they suspected being ignited had

1676
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 3: been lit by lithium ion batteries In twenty twenty there

1677
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 3: were fifty one. Last year in twenty twenty four there

1678
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 3: were one hundred and four, so it's doubled over four years.

1679
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 3: Not insignificant, especially when the back of rubbish trucks are

1680
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 3: exploding and bursting into flames. It's not a great thing,

1681
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 3: is it. Interestingly. So it's vapes, it's eat scooters, it's

1682
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 3: mobile phones that have got these lithium ion batteries in them.

1683
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 3: There are at Auckland Council the waste disposal people say

1684
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 3: that in December alone, this is just Auckland, they had

1685
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 3: six hundred laptops in the putting the bins. What I mean,

1686
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 3: that is one item I have to say. I mean,

1687
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 3: obviously you should do everything properly, but that is one item.

1688
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 3: I would definitely go and find a digital place to

1689
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 3: dispose of it. You know, it's quite a large piece

1690
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 3: of equipment too, but six hundred of them in one month, honestly,

1691
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 3: I mean, how often are people getting laptops new laptops?

1692
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 3: Obviously every year, get rid of that one at Christmas

1693
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 3: Boxing Day sales and then you've got a brand new

1694
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 3: one for January? Is that how it works? Twenty three

1695
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 3: to seven, the doomsday clock has inched ever closer to

1696
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 3: midnight than ever before, and the atomic scientists that set

1697
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 3: the clock have set it now at eighty nine seconds

1698
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:58,839
Speaker 3: to midnight. Symbolic it shows us how close that humanity

1699
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 3: has come to the end the world. Jack Khnemann is

1700
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 3: a professor of genetics at the University of Cantaburani's with

1701
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 3: me tonight, Hijack.

1702
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 25: Hello, it's good to be here.

1703
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 3: Do I take this seriously?

1704
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 2: Well?

1705
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 25: I think you should. I mean, the atomic scientists have

1706
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:19,839
Speaker 25: been publishing on the Clock for since the late nineteen forties,

1707
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 25: and while we're still here, they have given us an

1708
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 25: indication of the kind of stresses on our planet and

1709
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 25: on our society that are leading us ever closer to

1710
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 25: our own destruction.

1711
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 3: Don't they. I mean, because it's been around since the

1712
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 3: nineteen forties, don't they have to move it every year

1713
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 3: just to justify being the.

1714
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 25: Yeah, so that they can earn a living Yeah. No,

1715
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 25: it hasn't always moved closer to midnight. There have been

1716
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 25: times when it's moved further away from midnight. There have

1717
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 25: been good news stories like the fall of the Soviet

1718
01:25:56,600 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 25: Union moved the clock backwards. It reduced tensions for nuclear warfare.

1719
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 25: So it doesn't always go in one direction, which you

1720
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,759
Speaker 25: might expect if they were trying to raise subscription rates.

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Speaker 2: Why why is it?

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Speaker 3: Why is it bumped to eighty nine then from ninety

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Speaker 3: last year? I mean's what's so precarious about the world

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Speaker 3: right now? That you know, didn't. I mean, we had

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Speaker 3: the war with the Ukraine, we had Russia's aggression, we

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Speaker 3: had the Gaza War going on the Middle East. If anything,

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Speaker 3: what's happened in the Middle East in the last little while,

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Speaker 3: particularly with Iran's weakness, you could argue you might have

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Speaker 3: put that to bed a little bit more.

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Speaker 25: It's it's a very difficult, difficult equation, and it's not

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Speaker 25: just one or two events that they factor in.

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Speaker 2: It's across the board.

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Speaker 25: So yes, it's it's only one second change, But in

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Speaker 25: part it tells us that things haven't improved. Nothing has

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Speaker 25: gotten better in Ukraine, and really nothing is a lot

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Speaker 25: better in Gaza. At the same time, in both of

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Speaker 25: those theaters of conflict, there have been discussions about introducing

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Speaker 25: weapons of mass discussion destruction, such as nuclear weapons. That

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Speaker 25: has increased tensions in many different parts of the world.

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Speaker 25: On top of that, we're still looking at really no

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Speaker 25: substantial progress on controlling carbon and climate change, so we

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Speaker 25: continue to put pressure on societies and infrastructure the environment

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Speaker 25: in ways that get us to a tipping point. But

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Speaker 25: I think what they've drawn particular attention to this year

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01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 25: is the uncontrolled possibility of further disruption to our biological ecosystems,

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Speaker 25: not just through the spontaneous occurrence of a new kind

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Speaker 25: of pathogen that's still a possibility, but also because we

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Speaker 25: are developing very rapidly our use of gene technologies and

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Speaker 25: creating ever more opportunity for both accidental and nefarious use

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Speaker 25: of life in either warfare or release into the environment

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Speaker 25: through I suppose good intentions that go bad.

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Speaker 3: So we got like something in a lab some lab,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know, China or maybe America, whatever, something

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Speaker 3: leaks and we all get wiped out. They're taking that

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Speaker 3: into account here too.

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Speaker 25: That's one scenario. The other scenario is that, just like

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Speaker 25: New Zealand is discussing right now, we deregulate the use

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Speaker 25: of gene technologies so that they can be used outside

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Speaker 25: of the lab by more people, fewer people trained, and

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Speaker 25: more organisms exposed to the gene technology, leading to ever

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Speaker 25: more complicated mixtures of organisms that might already be released

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Speaker 25: rather than in a laboratory and then escape to.

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Speaker 3: The grab bag of horrible things that could happen to

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Speaker 3: planet Earth. What what happens at when the clock hits midnight?

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Speaker 25: Oh yeah, I suppose we won't be here if it

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Speaker 25: actually hits midnight, that's just something you won't know about

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01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 25: the You know, the clock can cause people to disengage

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Speaker 25: and to be depressed about circumstances. But I would hope

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Speaker 25: people would look at it another way. It's also telling

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Speaker 25: us that we have a pathway back. We have we

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Speaker 25: have clear indicators of where we should put our priorities

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Speaker 25: to help heal the earth and make it make the

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Speaker 25: earth again a much more welcoming place to sustain human life.

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Speaker 3: Tick tick Jack tick yep, thanks so much having with me.

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Speaker 3: That is Jack Heyneman. He's a professor of genetics at

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Speaker 3: the University of Canterbury. Talking about the doomsday clock eighteen

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Speaker 3: minutes away from seven, A lot of people saying, why

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Speaker 3: do they have the climate change? Why do they throw

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Speaker 3: climate change in there? This is what I mean. I

1780
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 3: think they just they've added to it over time, haven't they.

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Speaker 3: It's it's more from just a nuclear weapon, warning clock,

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Speaker 3: warning sign barometer. It's become in everything. It's become an

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Speaker 3: end of the world. Oh well, I guess it's become

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01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:22,680
Speaker 3: the doomsday clock, hasn't it. And there are many reasons

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Speaker 3: that the world might be doomed. That's what we've learned.

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Speaker 3: Seventeen minutes away from seven. We've got our UK correspondent

1787
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Speaker 3: coming up for Top of the R two.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's macro, micro orgos, play economics, it's all on

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Speaker 1: the Business Hour with Ryan Bridge on us Dogs ev.

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Speaker 3: Just go one quarter to seven. We just spoke to

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Speaker 3: a genetic professor of genetics at the University of Canty

1792
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Speaker 3: about the doomsday clock, which predicts the end of the world,

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Speaker 3: High Ryan, isn't the clock cumulative i e. The Cuban

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01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 3: missile crisis? The clock jumps forward heaps obviously, but then

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01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 3: once it's averted, does it jump back heaps? Yes, it does, Ryan,

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Speaker 3: I'm an ee near. How of this person talking was

1797
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 3: just a lot of ball a lot of ifs. Is

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01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 3: there a concrete, verified research behind this, asks Harry. I

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01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 3: mean yes, they are all experts in their fields, but

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Speaker 3: I mean it is a lot of guesswork. And also,

1801
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 3: how do you compute all of that vast and disparate

1802
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 3: information about nuclear war and climate change and AI and

1803
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 3: put it into a clock. I mean, this just sounds

1804
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:29,599
Speaker 3: a bit absurd, doesn't it. It's just gone fourteen away

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Speaker 3: from seven now, and we're going to the UK Gale

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Speaker 3: downies with us Hi Gail, Hi, Ryan, lovely to have

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Speaker 3: you on the show. Tell us about the It sounds

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01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 3: a bit like our government yours is fighting for growth.

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Speaker 34: That's exactly right. And the Chancellor, Rachel Reeves has been

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Speaker 34: talking about a major announcement for a week now and

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Speaker 34: today is the day she's going to make that major announcement,

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Speaker 34: which is expected to include the government giving it support

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01:31:57,240 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 34: for a third runway. He Throw Airport to get with

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Speaker 34: expansion plans at Gatwick and Luton, so the government can't

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Speaker 34: prejudge the results of any planning application, but the boss

1816
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:10,759
Speaker 34: of Heathrow has said the airport needed a clear steer

1817
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Speaker 34: from the government by the end of this year. He's

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Speaker 34: argued the expansion is needed to keep up with rival

1819
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:19,599
Speaker 34: airports in Europe which have fewer passengers and more runways.

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Speaker 34: Are given examples. So Heathrow had eighty million passengers in

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01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 34: twenty twenty three and has two runways. Meanwhile, Skipple Airport

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01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 34: at Amsterdam has six runways, dealing with around sixty million

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Speaker 34: passengers a year. However, any plans for expansion third runway

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01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 34: have been opposed in the past and probably in the

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Speaker 34: future by environmentalists and residents living near the airport, and

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Speaker 34: even some labor MPs. The Tories say, Rachel reeves plans

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Speaker 34: have been hastily cobbled together.

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Speaker 3: Goodness, mate, let's talk about these numbers you've got for

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01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,719
Speaker 3: us a healthy food, a basket of healthy food versus

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Speaker 3: a basket of not so healthy food. What's the difference.

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Speaker 34: The difference is that a basket of healthy food, so

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Speaker 34: it would cost around sixteen dollars for basically a thousand

1833
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 34: calories of healthy food, is twice as much as that

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01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 34: of eight dollars for the equivalent of less healthy food

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Speaker 34: such as ready meals and process mates. And it's analysis

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Speaker 34: that has been done by the UK charity, the Food Foundation,

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Speaker 34: which is worrying them because it says low income families

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01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 34: simply can't afford to eat healthily. So how it calculated

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01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 34: it is it took the average price of four hundred

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01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 34: and fifty food items that are used by the Office

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Speaker 34: of National Statistics to calculate monthly inflation. It then graded

1842
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Speaker 34: the foods on their nutritional value. And that the concern,

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01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 34: of course, as I mentioned, is the fact that so

1844
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 34: many households, it's estimated eight million households in the UK

1845
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 34: are dealing with food insecurities and have cut back on

1846
01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:58,800
Speaker 34: healthy food because of that.

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01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:03,760
Speaker 3: Interesting basically double, isn't it. The bear stuff costs you double?

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01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 3: Speaking of expensive for you is a brut and for

1849
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 3: me as a key we we in basically anyone who's

1850
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:13,720
Speaker 3: outside of the EU, we're going to have to pay

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01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 3: more to see the Mona Lisa.

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Speaker 34: Yes, it's part of a major refurbishment of the Louver

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01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 34: where the Mona Lisa is house. And it was the

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Speaker 34: French President Emmanuel Macron who talked about the expansion plans yesterday.

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Speaker 34: In fact, he's running an international competition to find out

1856
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Speaker 34: find an architect or planner whoever to design the refurbishment,

1857
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 34: and he says that he's taking the Mona Lisa from

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01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 34: its current position in the Louver, going to put it

1859
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Speaker 34: into a separate exhibition space alongside that, as you say,

1860
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:53,680
Speaker 34: non EU residents like yourself and myself are going to

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01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:56,760
Speaker 34: be charged more. He hasn't explained why we're going to

1862
01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 34: be charged more, but he just said we will be

1863
01:34:59,120 --> 01:34:59,599
Speaker 34: charged more.

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Speaker 3: I suppose someone's got to pay for it, don't they.

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Speaker 3: And it looks like it's our scale.

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Speaker 8: Thank you.

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Speaker 15: It is.

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Speaker 3: That scale down. You have a great day at UK

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Speaker 3: Correspondent with us. Just go on ten to seven on

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Speaker 3: News TALKSB. Big fuss has been made, by the way

1871
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 3: about what Jason Walls told us about earlier in the show.

1872
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 3: This is Shane Jones shouting send the Mexicans home while

1873
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 3: the Green MP's were speaking a Ricardo Mininda's march is

1874
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 3: obviously from Mexico. You can't say that well, I mean

1875
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 3: you can't say that it's the free world. I don't

1876
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 3: think you should say something like that. It's not a

1877
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:43,720
Speaker 3: particularly constructive way to be debating in Parliament as it

1878
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:45,919
Speaker 3: is ten to seven.

1879
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Speaker 2: Whether it's macro microbe or just playing economics.

1880
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 1: It's all on the business hours with Hinther Dupleicy Ellen

1881
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:57,519
Speaker 1: and Mas Insurance and Invests, Crew, Your Wealth, Protect your Future,

1882
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:58,559
Speaker 1: News Talks NB.

1883
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Speaker 3: We've been talking a lot this afternoon, this evening at

1884
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Speaker 3: seven Away from seven about lithium and the lithium ion batteries.

1885
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:08,800
Speaker 3: I was quite interested to read so half of all

1886
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 3: lithium produced in the world comes from Australia. Then you've

1887
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 3: got countries like China and Chili who produce the rest

1888
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 3: of it, along with a bunch of other countries, but

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01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 3: Australia is by and large the main one, more than

1890
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 3: fifty percent of output. I was interested to read today

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Speaker 3: that every ton of lithium that's extracted from mining, you

1892
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:32,560
Speaker 3: generate fifteen thousand tons of carbon dioxide. So although it

1893
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 3: is going you know, the lithium is going into batteries

1894
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 3: which are going into evs, which is obviously good for

1895
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:43,560
Speaker 3: fossil fuel emissions, etc. You are still creating carbon dioxide

1896
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 3: by extracting it from the earth. And you can do

1897
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 3: it in two ways. You can do it through hard

1898
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 3: rock like your traditional mining as we would know and

1899
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 3: see it, or you can do it what they call

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01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 3: through extracting through brine, which it says here is an

1901
01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:00,760
Speaker 3: extremely salty liquid sits underground. The is pumped up to

1902
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 3: the surface into big ponds, left for a couple of

1903
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 3: years for the water to evaporate, leaving behind lithium salts.

1904
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:10,719
Speaker 3: That uses two million liters of water for every ton

1905
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:13,720
Speaker 3: of lithium produced. So there you go. I mean, I

1906
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 3: guess that nothing is going to be good, is it.

1907
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:18,759
Speaker 3: If you want to if you want to produce something,

1908
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:22,680
Speaker 3: if you want electricity, if you want power, if you

1909
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 3: want innovation, if you want advancement, then it's going to

1910
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 3: cost you something. It's going to come at the cost

1911
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:31,479
Speaker 3: of something. Nothing is free. Thank you so much for

1912
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 3: all of your texts today. A couple more on the

1913
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 3: speed limit that I didn't get to earlier. Higher one

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01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 3: hundred kilve minutes an hour is enough for anybody. I

1915
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 3: set on that speed on our highways and the huge

1916
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 3: majority of the idiots feel the need to pass me,

1917
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 3: says Dennis. Dennis. I mean, look, you're going to speed limit.

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Speaker 3: I can't say anything about that. But some people, you know,

1919
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:55,559
Speaker 3: some people just want.

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Speaker 33: To get And we're running out of time on the

1921
01:37:57,880 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 33: show today, aren't we, Ryan?

1922
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 3: Are we actually no, No, you're fine. Do I need

1923
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 3: to speak or do I need to slow down? What

1924
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:08,639
Speaker 3: are we listening to? What are we going out today?

1925
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 33: James Blunt, you're beautiful to play us out tonight?

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Speaker 8: He is announced.

1927
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Speaker 33: He has announced that he will be coming to New

1928
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 33: Zealand to play. Unfortunately just the one show, so you

1929
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 33: will have to get to Auckland for it. It's going

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Speaker 33: to be in Spark Arena on the twenty first of

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01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 33: October this year at Spark Arena, being in Auckland. I

1932
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 33: was thinking to myself. I was like, oh, hang on,

1933
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:27,639
Speaker 33: wasn't he just here did a show at Spark Arena

1934
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 33: not that long ago? And that's true, but it was

1935
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 33: in twenty eighties, so you know that time just sort

1936
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 33: of flies, doesn't it?

1937
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 26: Right?

1938
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:35,680
Speaker 3: That long time ago? All right, here he is and

1939
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:37,559
Speaker 3: we'll see tomorrow from my.

1940
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 27: Face that our.

1941
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:40,679
Speaker 2: Fine.

1942
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 11: Don't think that I see her jam we shall morman

1943
01:38:50,280 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 11: Tha will last. Yam, yuh beautiful, yu your beautiful. It's true.

1944
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:10,640
Speaker 11: I saw y'all pants in a cloud in place.

1945
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 2: And I don't know want to it's a they with you, my.

1946
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:43,800
Speaker 11: Y'all beautiful, y'all beautiful, y'all beautiful.

1947
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 3: It's truth.

1948
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 18: It must be.

1949
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 2: With a flood on her face when she thought that

1950
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 2: I should be with you.

1951
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:08,719
Speaker 23: But it's time to face the true.

1952
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 2: I will never be with you.

1953
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