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Speaker 1: In the Brady UK correspondence with that's hello Winda.

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Speaker 2: Heather, great to be back. How are you so?

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Speaker 1: Tell me about the latest six offender to be accidentally

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Speaker 1: released from jail.

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Speaker 2: Well, it feels the Groundhog Day here. We did this

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Speaker 2: story just a couple of weeks ago when they let

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Speaker 2: out a guy who was sexually assaulted a fourteen year

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Speaker 2: old girl. Led him out of prison early by accident,

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Speaker 2: and he even went back in and asked, are you

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Speaker 2: sure I should be out? And they pointed him in

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Speaker 2: the direction of a train station and said basically go,

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Speaker 2: and he did. We have another man hunt underway. I

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Speaker 2: think this one is even more damaging for the authorities

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Speaker 2: because we now find out he was released by accident,

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Speaker 2: a twenty four year old Algerian last Wednesday, and we

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Speaker 2: were told about it yesterday, and in fact the police

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Speaker 2: were told about it yesterday and you can imagine the

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Speaker 2: anger in policing having to now find this guy and

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Speaker 2: he's had a full week of a head start. So

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Speaker 2: it's shining a light really on the absolute state of

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Speaker 2: the prison system in the UK. The government are saying

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Speaker 2: that look, we just inherited this mess from the previous lot.

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Speaker 2: It's the Conservative's fault, but in all honesty, they've had

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Speaker 2: over a year now to try and make things better,

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Speaker 2: and it's clear that the prison system is on its knees. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: we don't know where a convicted sex offender is. He's

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Speaker 2: twenty four, he's from Algeria. He is due to be

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Speaker 2: deported when he finishes this sentence, so he's not exactly

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Speaker 2: going to walk in and hand himself in.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So do you have any grip at the moment

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Speaker 1: on how many of these people who shouldn't have been

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Speaker 1: released have been released? Like how many are out there?

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Speaker 2: No, we don't, and that is the question that was

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Speaker 2: asked in Parliament yesterday during Prime Minister's questions. Starmer has

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Speaker 2: gone off the cop thirty in Brazil. So David Lammy

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Speaker 2: was filling in. He's basically Deputy Prime Minister and Justice Minister,

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Speaker 2: and here we have it where he was not able

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Speaker 2: to answer that question. Now Lammy refused to answer the

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Speaker 2: question because he knew this was coming. And it was

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Speaker 2: only after PMQ's was over that this story broke. And

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Speaker 2: it was quite clear that the Conservatives knew that something

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Speaker 2: was in the offing, as they say, and it's everywhere now,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's nobody knows and you just wonder what

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Speaker 2: is going on. Releasing someone from prison is a very

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Speaker 2: significant decision to take, ye, and we've managed to let

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Speaker 2: two foreign sex offenders go in the space of a fortnite.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now, talk to me about the politics of this, right,

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Speaker 1: because this has been fairly gritty for Stammer and his

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Speaker 1: party basically from the start. Are they playing this like

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Speaker 1: is there one in one out policy going to cut

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Speaker 1: the mustard after all of this or are they going

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Speaker 1: to be expected to go harder?

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Speaker 2: Look, I think they're really really going to have to

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Speaker 2: go harder on migration because guess who's making hay politically

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Speaker 2: on this, Nigel Farage. It is his selling point. It

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Speaker 2: is probably the only thing that is driving his popularity

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Speaker 2: in the polls. That and star unpopularity is the fact

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Speaker 2: that Forage says, make me Prime Minister and all these

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Speaker 2: people will be going home and more. You know, that's

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Speaker 2: the drum he keeps banging. And you look around England

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Speaker 2: now and you're seeing more and more flags Cross of

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Speaker 2: Saint George everywhere. People have had enough and Forage and reform.

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Speaker 2: If there were an election in the morning. They are

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Speaker 2: running away with it in the polls.

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Speaker 1: What would going haden look like?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think for Starmer it needs mis ooken that

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Speaker 2: this can't go on, and that fifty thousand people coming

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Speaker 2: across in Dinghy's from France every single year, mostly men undocumented.

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Speaker 2: We don't know who they are, where they're from. Tackling

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Speaker 2: that and stopping that anyhow, people don't care. People don't

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Speaker 2: you know. We're seeing this small army of British lawyers,

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Speaker 2: human rights lawyers exploiting every single loophole possible to keep

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Speaker 2: these people in the country for as long as possible.

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Speaker 2: And Starmer used to be a human rights lawyer, so

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Speaker 2: surely he knows how this can be stopped. There are solutions.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely think there are solutions, but Stammer doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to go that far because he doesn't want to be

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Speaker 2: seen as extreme. If he doesn't, he will be out

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Speaker 2: of a job.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. Hey, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Into that's fascinating stuff. That's Into Brady, UK correspondent.

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