1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,867 Speaker 1: from Newstalks edb. 3 00:00:12,907 --> 00:00:22,667 Speaker 2: Barata towards the Uprights and that's over Tasmin Tasmond when 4 00:00:23,187 --> 00:00:24,907 Speaker 2: for renfairly. 5 00:00:24,427 --> 00:00:26,427 Speaker 3: Shield now I reckon the liver gets sick of listening 6 00:00:26,427 --> 00:00:28,907 Speaker 3: to that. Top of the South. A huge supporter of 7 00:00:28,987 --> 00:00:32,867 Speaker 3: rugby in the Tasman region is Nelson businessman Shane Drummond. 8 00:00:33,067 --> 00:00:36,627 Speaker 3: Former Tasman President board member now a life member, has 9 00:00:36,707 --> 00:00:39,147 Speaker 3: done a massive amount for rugby in the Top of 10 00:00:39,187 --> 00:00:42,027 Speaker 3: the South and for the community as well. He's at 11 00:00:42,067 --> 00:00:45,147 Speaker 3: the game or about to watch the game unfold Drummy, 12 00:00:45,187 --> 00:00:45,907 Speaker 3: how are the nerves? 13 00:00:47,067 --> 00:00:47,187 Speaker 2: Oh? 14 00:00:47,307 --> 00:00:50,187 Speaker 4: I could ask the known Piney. You know, I'm sitting 15 00:00:50,227 --> 00:00:52,667 Speaker 4: in the boardroom on them all on the own, so 16 00:00:52,707 --> 00:00:54,187 Speaker 4: I'm getting huge listenership. 17 00:00:56,747 --> 00:00:57,507 Speaker 3: Are you nervous? 18 00:00:58,667 --> 00:01:02,787 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, Well, unfortunately I was in South Africa on 19 00:01:02,827 --> 00:01:04,427 Speaker 4: the All Back tour of last week and I watched 20 00:01:04,427 --> 00:01:08,507 Speaker 4: it in a hotel room with me computer hook up 21 00:01:08,547 --> 00:01:10,907 Speaker 4: the four G to me TV and with Gary Monroe, 22 00:01:11,027 --> 00:01:14,347 Speaker 4: and may I tell you what I was, Yeah, it 23 00:01:14,427 --> 00:01:18,267 Speaker 4: was hard work being so far and being so close 24 00:01:18,307 --> 00:01:21,507 Speaker 4: and of course here that Jimmy Ta Tava noa wh 25 00:01:21,587 --> 00:01:24,587 Speaker 4: I steal. At the end, we give all the accolade 26 00:01:24,627 --> 00:01:26,067 Speaker 4: to the kicker. We wouldn't have been able to kick 27 00:01:26,067 --> 00:01:29,707 Speaker 4: it without Mighty Jimmy getting the opportunity. And then yeah, 28 00:01:29,827 --> 00:01:34,307 Speaker 4: the young fellow stood up with Campbell Parrada and kept it. 29 00:01:34,387 --> 00:01:35,907 Speaker 4: He's not a bad kicker. It's between you and I. 30 00:01:36,067 --> 00:01:36,947 Speaker 4: And yeah it was. 31 00:01:38,627 --> 00:01:42,067 Speaker 3: How special was it to finally get the ran Philly 32 00:01:42,147 --> 00:01:44,947 Speaker 3: shield to to the to the Tasman region. I know 33 00:01:44,947 --> 00:01:47,307 Speaker 3: it's been in Marlborough, but you know, first time in Nelson. 34 00:01:47,467 --> 00:01:48,867 Speaker 3: How special a week hasn't been. 35 00:01:50,587 --> 00:01:54,107 Speaker 4: It's been unlivable Piney. You know, we've been going eighteen 36 00:01:54,187 --> 00:01:56,427 Speaker 4: years and I was one of the in shaviors of 37 00:01:56,507 --> 00:01:58,987 Speaker 4: the union men Max Spence, with the two Nelson people, 38 00:01:59,027 --> 00:02:02,667 Speaker 4: but joining with Marlboro to make Tesman, which is what 39 00:02:02,707 --> 00:02:05,027 Speaker 4: it's all about. Now it's no longer Nelson, it's no 40 00:02:05,107 --> 00:02:07,987 Speaker 4: longer Malboro. It is Tessmand and it's given our young 41 00:02:08,027 --> 00:02:10,907 Speaker 4: people have great opportunity. And over the years we've been 42 00:02:10,947 --> 00:02:13,067 Speaker 4: able to get to you know, one thing, one year 43 00:02:13,107 --> 00:02:14,667 Speaker 4: we had seven or eight all books and the all 44 00:02:14,667 --> 00:02:18,067 Speaker 4: Black squads. So they are all important and really really 45 00:02:18,187 --> 00:02:21,787 Speaker 4: nice things to have but we've never had the rankfully shield. 46 00:02:21,787 --> 00:02:25,947 Speaker 4: And I've been to the four previous challenges and maybe 47 00:02:26,107 --> 00:02:28,507 Speaker 4: on the on the on the bad things. 48 00:02:29,347 --> 00:02:29,867 Speaker 1: I didn't. 49 00:02:32,107 --> 00:02:33,907 Speaker 3: Maybe you're maybe you're the issue. 50 00:02:34,987 --> 00:02:37,627 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm here on you before you had to say it. 51 00:02:38,907 --> 00:02:43,707 Speaker 4: So yeah, and you know, for us, it's it's overly spentual. 52 00:02:43,947 --> 00:02:46,107 Speaker 4: We've won the you know, we've come from third division 53 00:02:46,547 --> 00:02:48,547 Speaker 4: and then joined as I say, with Marble to become 54 00:02:48,587 --> 00:02:53,107 Speaker 4: Tasman and we've won won the NBC competition. So you know, 55 00:02:53,187 --> 00:02:58,267 Speaker 4: there major steps in such a short time and and 56 00:02:58,267 --> 00:03:00,947 Speaker 4: and amalgamating and being a success like this is quite 57 00:03:00,987 --> 00:03:05,507 Speaker 4: special because others have failed. And yeah, it's just it's 58 00:03:05,547 --> 00:03:08,307 Speaker 4: special for both communities. And you know, we've got to 59 00:03:08,347 --> 00:03:10,507 Speaker 4: sold out park at the hands down today and I'm 60 00:03:10,507 --> 00:03:14,467 Speaker 4: just watching them still ramping in. You know, I just hope, 61 00:03:14,587 --> 00:03:19,187 Speaker 4: like something that we do retain it and we get 62 00:03:19,227 --> 00:03:23,027 Speaker 4: Nelson the opportunity to benefit for a defense like this. 63 00:03:23,187 --> 00:03:27,107 Speaker 4: It's the day here in Marlboro at the moment is beautiful. 64 00:03:27,387 --> 00:03:31,427 Speaker 4: The ground is stunning. There's no very little wind effort 65 00:03:31,467 --> 00:03:34,547 Speaker 4: all I can't see any at the moment, which has 66 00:03:34,587 --> 00:03:37,067 Speaker 4: again been in the past been a bit of a 67 00:03:37,147 --> 00:03:41,467 Speaker 4: mold away. It's beautiful here, So here let the challenge begin. 68 00:03:42,067 --> 00:03:44,507 Speaker 3: Indeed, and can you just remind us from me about 69 00:03:44,547 --> 00:03:48,107 Speaker 3: the amalgamation or the genesis of the amalgamation, would you say, 70 00:03:48,427 --> 00:03:51,987 Speaker 3: eighteen sixteen, eighteen years ago? Was there any was there 71 00:03:51,987 --> 00:03:53,787 Speaker 3: any opposition to it at the time? 72 00:03:54,907 --> 00:03:59,387 Speaker 4: Oh? Yes, there was is fear to say, piney and 73 00:04:00,867 --> 00:04:05,107 Speaker 4: guide emotions with your particular unions. And Marlborough is a 74 00:04:05,187 --> 00:04:07,547 Speaker 4: very proud union and they did Homer Shield and you 75 00:04:07,547 --> 00:04:11,267 Speaker 4: know Nelson Macever did and then we had ownership of 76 00:04:11,347 --> 00:04:14,827 Speaker 4: grounds and because they Marlborough owned Landsdown Park they don't 77 00:04:14,867 --> 00:04:17,227 Speaker 4: now and of course Nelson is to put the park 78 00:04:17,267 --> 00:04:19,787 Speaker 4: which is owned by the council. We're all sorts of 79 00:04:20,187 --> 00:04:26,187 Speaker 4: different things with emotions with with you know, players, officials, 80 00:04:26,227 --> 00:04:30,267 Speaker 4: past players, and they're all things that you'd expect and 81 00:04:30,307 --> 00:04:33,907 Speaker 4: you'd hopeful because the challenge of amalgamating is taking on 82 00:04:34,027 --> 00:04:38,187 Speaker 4: the challenge and letting people's emotions you get amongst it. 83 00:04:38,227 --> 00:04:40,547 Speaker 4: But you know, if you look back now, you know 84 00:04:40,667 --> 00:04:43,267 Speaker 4: you walk down the street of Blenn and Moore Nelson, 85 00:04:43,307 --> 00:04:45,947 Speaker 4: and you know you ask if they're not already in 86 00:04:46,147 --> 00:04:49,947 Speaker 4: marco gare if you ask them, you know, what would 87 00:04:49,987 --> 00:04:52,307 Speaker 4: you like to be, and they would like to be 88 00:04:52,347 --> 00:04:53,987 Speaker 4: at Marco. These kids, they don't want to play for 89 00:04:54,027 --> 00:04:56,787 Speaker 4: Nelson Base the same as they would were Marlborough. They 90 00:04:56,827 --> 00:04:58,147 Speaker 4: want to be a marker. They want to be on 91 00:04:58,187 --> 00:05:01,507 Speaker 4: the national stage. And you know, we've given them those 92 00:05:01,587 --> 00:05:04,347 Speaker 4: kids that opportunity to develop and come through and to 93 00:05:04,387 --> 00:05:08,307 Speaker 4: see guys like David Billy, you know, and all the 94 00:05:08,347 --> 00:05:11,827 Speaker 4: you know, Ethan Black Headers and all the All Blacks 95 00:05:11,827 --> 00:05:14,067 Speaker 4: that we've had over the last couple of years and 96 00:05:14,147 --> 00:05:16,747 Speaker 4: still I haven't and guys that are on the fringes. 97 00:05:17,467 --> 00:05:19,427 Speaker 4: You know, you look at a guy like Fundo Christie, 98 00:05:20,267 --> 00:05:22,307 Speaker 4: you know he's sort of a current all back but 99 00:05:22,427 --> 00:05:24,707 Speaker 4: not at the moment. And young Noah Holsome's taking a 100 00:05:24,787 --> 00:05:28,467 Speaker 4: spot booking who is a Tasman player. So you know, 101 00:05:28,867 --> 00:05:32,547 Speaker 4: that's great to see those guys coming and giving it 102 00:05:32,587 --> 00:05:35,387 Speaker 4: a crack in the Tasman area, then making the mark 103 00:05:35,587 --> 00:05:39,467 Speaker 4: and then becoming super players and the ultimate to wear 104 00:05:39,467 --> 00:05:40,387 Speaker 4: the All Black food. 105 00:05:41,267 --> 00:05:45,427 Speaker 3: Indeed, I see your CEO Steve Mitchell and William HARVILLI 106 00:05:45,507 --> 00:05:47,787 Speaker 3: brought the shield into one of your places of business 107 00:05:48,227 --> 00:05:49,587 Speaker 3: during the week. You would have enjoyed that. 108 00:05:50,747 --> 00:05:53,427 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been again. Not only was our part of 109 00:05:53,467 --> 00:05:55,667 Speaker 4: setting up the union right in two thousand and five 110 00:05:55,707 --> 00:05:57,947 Speaker 4: when we established in two thousand and six, but I've 111 00:05:57,947 --> 00:06:00,387 Speaker 4: been an Augle sponsor right from the start and still 112 00:06:00,427 --> 00:06:04,467 Speaker 4: are pining and proud of that. And yeah, when I 113 00:06:04,507 --> 00:06:08,867 Speaker 4: got off the plane on Tuesday, Steve had already emailed 114 00:06:08,907 --> 00:06:12,507 Speaker 4: men said that Wednesday morning at nine point thirty wholeby 115 00:06:12,547 --> 00:06:15,667 Speaker 4: coming around with a player and it was well because 116 00:06:15,667 --> 00:06:17,267 Speaker 4: he got a head knock and is unable to play 117 00:06:17,267 --> 00:06:19,147 Speaker 4: today and bring the shield ground to be able to 118 00:06:19,187 --> 00:06:21,107 Speaker 4: put it in front of our staff and the few 119 00:06:21,147 --> 00:06:24,507 Speaker 4: people that were around. Those are special occasions and lots 120 00:06:24,507 --> 00:06:28,307 Speaker 4: of the businesses and Nelson, Marlborough, Golden Bay, and it 121 00:06:28,507 --> 00:06:32,547 Speaker 4: went over to Sturge and Matchuacre. That great occasions for 122 00:06:32,667 --> 00:06:34,667 Speaker 4: everybody in the community to be a part of. And 123 00:06:34,827 --> 00:06:36,627 Speaker 4: rather than sitting at in the Union and the odd 124 00:06:36,627 --> 00:06:38,507 Speaker 4: person seeing it, they took it on the road around 125 00:06:38,867 --> 00:06:41,067 Speaker 4: It's all those areas, which was pretty cool for the 126 00:06:41,067 --> 00:06:42,827 Speaker 4: public to be able to hold it, see it, touch 127 00:06:42,867 --> 00:06:45,467 Speaker 4: it and have photos with it and with the players. 128 00:06:45,507 --> 00:06:48,987 Speaker 4: So that's cool. And yeah, I am excited to have 129 00:06:48,987 --> 00:06:50,747 Speaker 4: it because it's the first time we have had it, 130 00:06:51,547 --> 00:06:53,707 Speaker 4: and I hope you know, I know you're up and 131 00:06:53,707 --> 00:06:55,387 Speaker 4: well into now, but you've been down our way for 132 00:06:55,387 --> 00:06:57,307 Speaker 4: a long time in the past. I hope for the 133 00:06:57,347 --> 00:06:59,427 Speaker 4: good of rugby that we're able to retain it, and 134 00:06:59,867 --> 00:07:01,827 Speaker 4: certainly finds up that we do. Yeah. 135 00:07:01,947 --> 00:07:04,507 Speaker 3: Look, I said at the top of the show, I 136 00:07:04,627 --> 00:07:06,507 Speaker 3: kind of it's a no lose situation for me, and 137 00:07:06,547 --> 00:07:08,107 Speaker 3: a big part of me, drumming does hope that it 138 00:07:08,147 --> 00:07:10,467 Speaker 3: stays where it is, because you know, a week doesn't 139 00:07:10,467 --> 00:07:12,867 Speaker 3: seem long enough. We had Quintin Strange on the show 140 00:07:12,947 --> 00:07:14,507 Speaker 3: right at the start of the show and he talked 141 00:07:14,507 --> 00:07:16,907 Speaker 3: about taking it over to Collingwood, you know, and and 142 00:07:17,027 --> 00:07:19,067 Speaker 3: the far flung places like that. You know, I mean, 143 00:07:19,067 --> 00:07:21,547 Speaker 3: you won back to back MPC titles in twenty nineteen, 144 00:07:21,707 --> 00:07:24,867 Speaker 3: twenty twenty without you know, actually openly saying it. Do 145 00:07:24,907 --> 00:07:26,827 Speaker 3: you reckon? Most people would say, okay, well, if we 146 00:07:26,907 --> 00:07:29,267 Speaker 3: keep the shield for the summer, we don't mind too 147 00:07:29,307 --> 00:07:31,747 Speaker 3: much if we don't win the NPC this year. 148 00:07:32,867 --> 00:07:35,147 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think you and I would have that opinion, 149 00:07:35,787 --> 00:07:37,827 Speaker 4: and I do have that opinion. I'd rather have that 150 00:07:37,907 --> 00:07:39,907 Speaker 4: now because we've it. You know, they're not that we 151 00:07:39,947 --> 00:07:42,627 Speaker 4: don't want to win the competition because we do. And 152 00:07:42,707 --> 00:07:46,107 Speaker 4: you know what on occasion today pointing the two only 153 00:07:46,227 --> 00:07:51,947 Speaker 4: unbeaten teams playing for the Anthony Shield, that's that's crazy stats. 154 00:07:52,707 --> 00:07:54,947 Speaker 4: You know, who would have packed that at the start 155 00:07:54,987 --> 00:07:57,387 Speaker 4: of the year. You know that we went to Hawks 156 00:07:57,427 --> 00:07:59,027 Speaker 4: boy and to win it, and then we're playing the 157 00:07:59,027 --> 00:08:03,587 Speaker 4: only unbeaten team here today. You wouldn't pick those things. 158 00:08:03,627 --> 00:08:06,627 Speaker 4: And it's a great occasion because yeah, we're going to 159 00:08:06,667 --> 00:08:08,667 Speaker 4: be playing probably on paper, the best team in the 160 00:08:08,707 --> 00:08:11,267 Speaker 4: competition who is leading it with us, So let's not 161 00:08:11,347 --> 00:08:13,907 Speaker 4: lose sight. You know, it's not going to be easy, 162 00:08:13,947 --> 00:08:16,747 Speaker 4: but I would like to think the adrenaline and just 163 00:08:17,027 --> 00:08:19,987 Speaker 4: holding it. You know, we'll get these guys up. And 164 00:08:20,027 --> 00:08:21,907 Speaker 4: if you saw what happened to Hawk's play last night, 165 00:08:22,027 --> 00:08:24,787 Speaker 4: you know, I'm sure they have they with the shield 166 00:08:24,827 --> 00:08:27,507 Speaker 4: was on the line against y Kado last night. You know, 167 00:08:28,107 --> 00:08:30,907 Speaker 4: I beg to differ, but they probably would have played 168 00:08:30,907 --> 00:08:34,267 Speaker 4: it a little bit different. Losing it is tough, but 169 00:08:34,387 --> 00:08:36,547 Speaker 4: having it, you know, I'd like to think that it 170 00:08:36,587 --> 00:08:38,987 Speaker 4: holds a lot for these guys and certainly of this community. 171 00:08:40,187 --> 00:08:43,147 Speaker 3: Well, you've passed about five or six minutes or closer 172 00:08:43,147 --> 00:08:46,027 Speaker 3: to ten minutes. I've managed to pass ten minutes of 173 00:08:46,027 --> 00:08:48,427 Speaker 3: your time getting closer to kickoff, Drummy, I'll let you 174 00:08:48,507 --> 00:08:51,187 Speaker 3: go and mix and mingle. Hope. It's an awesome afternoon mate. 175 00:08:51,227 --> 00:08:52,067 Speaker 3: Thanks for taking our call. 176 00:08:52,987 --> 00:08:55,027 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, thank you very much for being part of it. 177 00:08:55,067 --> 00:08:58,347 Speaker 3: Play man finds up as they say, drumming fins up. 178 00:08:58,667 --> 00:09:00,587 Speaker 3: Shane Drummond, well known in the Top of the South, 179 00:09:00,707 --> 00:09:04,987 Speaker 3: huge supporter of sport, huge supporter of rugby and a 180 00:09:05,027 --> 00:09:07,347 Speaker 3: guy who has basically puted money where his mouth is 181 00:09:07,387 --> 00:09:10,467 Speaker 3: in terms of a support for the game of rugby 182 00:09:10,507 --> 00:09:14,667 Speaker 3: and the really just community, not just sport, but all 183 00:09:14,707 --> 00:09:17,667 Speaker 3: parts of the Nelson community. A very very good man. 184 00:09:17,787 --> 00:09:20,867 Speaker 3: And look he's right. I'm from Wellington, as I said 185 00:09:21,507 --> 00:09:23,907 Speaker 3: at the start of the show, born and bred in Wellington. 186 00:09:24,507 --> 00:09:30,107 Speaker 3: Was there when when Wayne Smith took an office in 187 00:09:30,227 --> 00:09:33,947 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty one, is scoring a try in Bernie's corner 188 00:09:33,987 --> 00:09:37,147 Speaker 3: at Athletic Park. And I was delighted when we got 189 00:09:37,187 --> 00:09:39,547 Speaker 3: it back. Was that two thousand and eight, when we 190 00:09:39,587 --> 00:09:41,307 Speaker 3: won it back a couple of years ago. Loved it, 191 00:09:41,427 --> 00:09:43,747 Speaker 3: loved having it here, loved being in and around it. 192 00:09:43,787 --> 00:09:47,307 Speaker 3: But it just feels to me as though, Look, if 193 00:09:47,307 --> 00:09:50,467 Speaker 3: Wellington won at this afternoon, great, but if Tasmen hold 194 00:09:50,467 --> 00:09:53,787 Speaker 3: on to it and have the opportunity to spread it 195 00:09:53,787 --> 00:09:56,907 Speaker 3: around a little bit more in the next couple of weeks, 196 00:09:56,947 --> 00:09:58,547 Speaker 3: I'm just having a look at forward as to what 197 00:09:58,627 --> 00:10:00,987 Speaker 3: their next challenge would be if they were to win 198 00:10:01,027 --> 00:10:04,107 Speaker 3: this afternoon and defend it. They've got a couple of 199 00:10:04,147 --> 00:10:07,507 Speaker 3: away games, so obviously that does go on the line there. 200 00:10:07,547 --> 00:10:11,587 Speaker 3: They play White Cuttle and then Otago over the next 201 00:10:11,587 --> 00:10:14,667 Speaker 3: two weekends, then a home game a midweek home game, 202 00:10:15,387 --> 00:10:19,227 Speaker 3: so we'd have a midweek shield challenge when Auckland come 203 00:10:19,347 --> 00:10:23,907 Speaker 3: to Trafalga Park in Nelson on Wednesday the second of October, 204 00:10:23,987 --> 00:10:26,187 Speaker 3: and should they defend it there, then four days later 205 00:10:26,507 --> 00:10:29,907 Speaker 3: they'll be back at Trafalga Park with Tartanaki coming to 206 00:10:30,067 --> 00:10:32,227 Speaker 3: pay a visit. So that would be the path to 207 00:10:32,347 --> 00:10:35,467 Speaker 3: holding on to the ran Furley Shield for the summer. 208 00:10:35,507 --> 00:10:38,907 Speaker 3: For Tasman, they need to win this afternoon, beat Auckland 209 00:10:38,907 --> 00:10:41,507 Speaker 3: on the second of October, and beat Taranaki on the 210 00:10:41,547 --> 00:10:43,387 Speaker 3: sixth of October, because, as we know, once we get 211 00:10:43,427 --> 00:10:46,707 Speaker 3: to Semison Final, the ran Furley Shield does not become 212 00:10:46,747 --> 00:10:49,107 Speaker 3: part of that, it sits in the trophy cabinet of 213 00:10:49,147 --> 00:10:52,147 Speaker 3: the team that finishes the regular season with it. We're 214 00:10:52,187 --> 00:10:55,267 Speaker 3: about fifteen minutes away from kickoff in Blenham. 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