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Speaker 1: Do Do for all your men bastards.

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Speaker 2: every weekday on radio. Heard Care Yeah, get with me.

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Speaker 2: That's got your That's not cool, Kies, it's a different guy.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what.

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Speaker 1: Kezy came in today and it was like he literally

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Speaker 1: rolled out of bed.

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Speaker 2: I haven't been in bed. I wish I'd been in bed.

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Speaker 2: That's the issue.

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Speaker 3: I had a big night last night, didn't you.

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Speaker 2: I didn't have a small night.

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Speaker 3: Talk about that. I look in a little bit sleepy,

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Speaker 3: a little bit. I've been on the pess. If I'm

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Speaker 3: honest with you, how do you how very especially when

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Speaker 3: I know what a big day you hear today, Keys,

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Speaker 3: huge day, the huge morning that you're head in front

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Speaker 3: of you today. I hope you didn't put that at risk.

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Speaker 2: Mate. It went great. Sure, guess what were you having

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Speaker 2: a few beers last night? I was literally like this

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Speaker 2: is going to help because tomorrow I have to be tired,

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Speaker 2: and I was fucking tired.

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Speaker 3: It was great.

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Speaker 2: I loved it. It's called method acting. It was so

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Speaker 2: I was like, here we go. Now I'm gona start

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Speaker 2: hitting the bttle all the time.

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Speaker 3: That's where it started for Jason.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I reckon, you know, if they're I always wondered

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Speaker 1: if there was a scene where you had to be drunk.

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Speaker 1: Was my attitude was, well, let's get drunk, but of

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Speaker 1: course directors are like, no, no, obviously we won't do that.

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Speaker 1: You have to pretend to be drunk.

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Speaker 2: And the opportunity though, and that's where.

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Speaker 1: You see the worst acting is when people try and

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Speaker 1: be drunk, like when you go, I'm very good at

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Speaker 1: being drunk because what what the big mistake that can make.

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Speaker 3: To the Lispeg son of Jason is pitting himself on the.

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Speaker 1: Being drunk, because the big mistake that most people make

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Speaker 1: when they're pretending to be they're two, they're way over

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Speaker 1: the top with it. Instead of being slow and just

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Speaker 2: Right. It's like no, no.

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Speaker 3: The thing with drunk people, Jace as they're trying to

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Speaker 2: Correct, thank you.

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Speaker 1: So he was just trying to cover her app all

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Speaker 1: the time was that it just then there was a

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Speaker 2: Keysy, So you hungover? Is that the point? No, I'm

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Speaker 2: not hungover. I had four beers. Oh really, I was

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Speaker 2: just we were just up late. We didn't get home

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Speaker 2: Chisher Island screening which my wife used to work for

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Speaker 2: and invited me just so that i'd bring her as

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Speaker 2: a plus one and they can hang out with her,

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Speaker 2: which is fair enough. But then afterwards they we all

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Speaker 2: meet up at a bar and had a few drinks

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Speaker 2: for a week while.

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Speaker 1: They don't have drinks there, No, they did before all right,

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Speaker 2: Hohen I had a beer? Yes, Jace. Yeah. God.

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Speaker 1: It's just so much free pess around Magie these days,

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Speaker 1: missing out massive industry.

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Speaker 2: I don't think, yeah, you know, you out. The thing

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Speaker 2: is we're not hitting the purse constantly. There's just a

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Speaker 2: it's a tragedy.

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Speaker 3: Anyway. How'd it go?

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Speaker 2: The callback? Yeah? Okay, So for those who don't know,

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Speaker 2: that happened and you go back and I was like, shit,

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Speaker 2: I wonder what we have to do today? Literally the

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Speaker 2: same thing again, just with a different person, once again

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Speaker 2: holding a little small handicam. Yeah, you're in front of

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Speaker 2: a wall. The weird thing about this one is obvious.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it random. Anybody else there in the waiting room.

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Speaker 2: One dude as I walked out, Yeah, just one dude.

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Speaker 2: But there was the only other people in the waiting

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Speaker 2: the parents of the little kid. Yeah, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, interesting though, really a good times. It takes

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Speaker 2: me back afterwards. I was thanks, ey, that's my first

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Speaker 1: It is the weird aspects of acting is when you

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Speaker 2: I had one.

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Speaker 3: What I think it was for hard Courts and just

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Speaker 3: Jackie van Beek. She be my wife. It was my

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Speaker 3: first time meeting her. And Renee Lyons was the real

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Speaker 3: estate agent. Right. Yes, it was just all improv of

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Speaker 3: They couldn't hear what we were saying. We were you know,

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Speaker 3: it wouldn't be used in the air. We'd be saying

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Speaker 3: the most horrendous ship to each other. Yes, get a Susan,

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Speaker 3: you're fucking slut A three way. There was a lot

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Speaker 2: Well, this one's like, it's really poorly, it's short.

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Speaker 3: Let's that going for Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Sure, So it's just like literally over and then there's

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Speaker 2: So literally yes, which is a nice way to start. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't have to improv, you know, although I'm it's fine,

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Speaker 2: I'm ready to improve. It's actually really helpful.

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Speaker 2: The thing that it's been interesting is when doing something

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Speaker 2: and you become self aware. Do you guys have that

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Speaker 2: we are, Yeah, yeah, I can be south aware. Sure.

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Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, so this time is we're gonna

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Speaker 2: film that will just be a close up of you,

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Speaker 2: my female partner, that's just close upon you. It cools

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Speaker 2: to do the scene. Okay, you do the scene. It

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Speaker 2: was all right, Chris, Now that's just gonna be close

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Speaker 2: up on you. So they focus it on you and

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Speaker 2: you're like okay, actually and then you're just like, sure,

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Speaker 2: is like, yes, I probably do a bit, and this

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Speaker 2: I've been nailing it until they they're focusing on you.

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Speaker 2: You do your best work off camera.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's yeah, that's something I appreciate. There happens

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Speaker 2: to me when I'm doing stand up too. When I

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Speaker 2: Oh god, horror. Self Aware The.

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Speaker 2: The Mind Blank. Do you do it on the radio?

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Speaker 2: What becomes self aware when you're about to go live?

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Speaker 1: No, I often have a mini panic attack before I go,

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Speaker 1: but just you know, random one that will happened just before.

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Speaker 2: I go live, like the first break of the show.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the very first one. Oh, yeah, I'll just forget.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's right, I'm doing a radio show. Concentrate, concentrate,

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Speaker 1: for God's sake. But no, I sat in your head,

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Speaker 2: For example, I'm not good. I'm i'd ever do like

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Speaker 3: absolutely not. And it was the lead role. And I

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Speaker 2: Fuck that.

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Speaker 3: And I was in every single scene. I think it

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Speaker 3: I used to learn like thirty pages a day, and

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Speaker 3: And then I really loved it, really loved it. But

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Speaker 2: Did you do them all?

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Speaker 3: And then but then I found jas that you get

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I didn't get but I didn't really find the

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Speaker 3: reward and going again and again and again and finding

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Speaker 3: when you're driving home. Ah, I should have done that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yes, it just becomes a job. I remember we had

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Speaker 2: Seriously, he was the coolest dude.

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Speaker 1: He used to have an umbrella and just walk around.

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Speaker 1: Today and yeah, he was in the seventh form and

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Speaker 2: He was just a very cool dude.

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Speaker 1: The day before it opened, he took over the role

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Speaker 2: And he did it and it was brilliant and learnt

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Speaker 1: No, But he was just one of those really cool cats.

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Speaker 3: It's quite good, isn't. It's good to have done. I

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Speaker 2: So what was the saying yes?

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Speaker 3: Because I was scared play?

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Speaker 3: Right, So if I'm scared of it, I have to

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Speaker 3: to say yes, I don't know that. If you're scared

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Speaker 2: But what if it's something that is literally nothing to

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Speaker 2: do with anything you're interested in doing because it was

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Speaker 3: If it's like fucking you want to fix his car

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Speaker 3: or go for a really long walk, then yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I would do a play again.

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Speaker 1: I've done quite a few.

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Speaker 3: I'd like something, a real good one, like what are

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Speaker 3: the classics? JA?

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Speaker 2: Certainly not Shakespeare, Billy Elliot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't think I want to do Shakespeare.

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Speaker 3: Gary Glenn Ross.

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Speaker 2: I'd like that one Blood Brothers plays.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm waiting for gott I saw that one

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Speaker 3: with McCallen. Yes, and who was in it with him?

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Speaker 2: That's a fucking random place, don't remember.

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Speaker 3: I can't remember.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't Patrick Stewart, I don't think. And then I'd never

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Speaker 3: I'd never heard of the play. I was like twenty,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how old I was. And it's not short, no,

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Speaker 3: And you're sitting there watching it and it was about

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Speaker 3: and so it proved, But fuck that was boring.

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Speaker 2: Well so was Beckett.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the writer, he's brilliant but kind of a pretty

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Speaker 1: tedious character. It is biography right, well, no order, no biography.

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Speaker 1: He's a pretty grim, stolic, boring dude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Most most people that you guys act words, right,

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Speaker 2: do they do plays?

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Speaker 3: I have acted?

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Speaker 2: did any of those actors do plays? Yeah? Yeah, quite

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Speaker 2: a few of them, right, Okay? Is it like a

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Speaker 1: There's unfortunately there's not a lot of theater around really.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's you know, Auckland Theater Company. I think

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Speaker 3: It, and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: There's there's not huge opportunities.

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Speaker 3: I was actually a basement as amateur theater, and they

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Speaker 3: do some good stuff, but they're really short runs.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I did actually get asked a couple of times

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Speaker 1: to do those plays, but I don't know why attend now,

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Speaker 3: They're terrifying and also horrendously paid my experience anyway, because

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Speaker 2: Yeah, shit the fuck? Yeah. Wow.

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Speaker 3: You're not in it obviously for the money, but do

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Speaker 1: It's better than like, you know, Johnny and I going

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Speaker 3: Because you're on the hammele. And that was the problem

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Speaker 2: That great.

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Speaker 1: That great autobiography I told you about with Barry Humphrees

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Speaker 1: and oh yeah, called More Please. He's got some magnificent

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Speaker 1: stories of doing plays and ship and getting heavily on

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Speaker 3: It was great stuff.

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Speaker 2: Unreal, wasn't yeh Man back in the day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, like if I was approached, it's very elegant,

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Speaker 2: If I was approached eyes to the front, are you

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Speaker 1: In fact, I think it was approached not long ago,

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Speaker 1: but I can't remember what.

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Speaker 3: It was for, but probably moved along, sir.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be my party, which is very elegant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you'd know that. So what I was gonna ask

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Speaker 2: before is would you rather, with a week's notice, do

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Speaker 2: a fight, a boxing fight or a play?

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Speaker 3: At my age of play a play? Yeah, I was

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Speaker 3: too old any any injury. I sustained that I'd.

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Speaker 2: Die if I had a fight. Yeah, there's two minutes.

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Speaker 2: I'd have a heart attack. Let's use that excuse again.

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Speaker 2: Old Kizy will do it for you. Yeah, Jas will

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Speaker 2: sign up for it. That old up. That's that's a

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Speaker 2: true story. Uh today, Hey Hidarky Big show four or

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Speaker 2: seven weekdays. It's super good. Check it's so good. It's

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