1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Jason wolves up political editors with me. Now, Hey, Jason, hey, 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: have are you going to trash me for twenty minutes 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: after I've finished my cross with you today? Or is 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: that only a yesterday thing? Oh have you been? Have 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: you been feeling sore about it? This whole saw? Thank 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: you very much. I'm not even finished with you. You 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: wait until six thirty when I'm going to rip into 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: you again. I wait with baited breath, and I'm sure 9 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: you're gonna let me come back on to have my 10 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: right reply. Right, No, absolutely not. You didn't slot. You 11 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: get your slot at this time, and even then you 12 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: should be lucky that you've got it. 13 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 2: Jason Thanky, Hey, tell me what happened when she said 14 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: the word, because it sounded like it went completely silent. 15 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. The air from the room just evaporated, 16 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: because it is the first time that we've heard any 17 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: MP in the house say the word. And that's the 18 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: sea word, and you know the word that I'm talking about. 19 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: The air just evaporated from the room. And I was 20 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: up in the house watching everybody's kind of pulled back 21 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: a little bit because they couldn't believe that it happened. 22 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: That was apart from the act MP's that obviously knew 23 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: that it was going to go how it was going 24 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: to go down. And I was told by my colleagues 25 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: down here who were in the corridor of the Press 26 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,279 Speaker 1: Gallery offices, that you heard sort of the ripple throughout 27 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: the entire corridor of people that were watching on Parliament TV. 28 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 1: And it was almost like the air had been taken 29 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: away down here as well. But it was one heck 30 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: and sorry, one heck of an afternoon because it started 31 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: with jan Toinetti. For god knows what reason decided to 32 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: ask about that Andrea Vance Sunday Star Times piece over 33 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: the weekend, why I don't know, haven't listened to how 34 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: it went down in the House. 35 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: Does she agree with Andrea Vance who said about the 36 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 3: Equal Pay Amendment bill quote, it is a curious feminist moment, 37 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 3: isn't it. Six skill bosses, Willis who hyped squad, Judith Collins, 38 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: Eric Stanford, Louise Upston, Nichola Gregg and Brook van Velden 39 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 3: all united in a historic act of economic backhanding other women. 40 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: So when you hear it like that, it's very stark 41 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: and you're wondering why labors dredging this back up because 42 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: it's going to backfire on them, and oh boy did it. 43 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: After some back and forth that was about whether or 44 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: not Brooke was allowed to answer the part of the question, 45 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: she hit back with the speaker with this. 46 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 4: Mister speaker, I'm a strong woman and I can speak 47 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 4: for myself. 48 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's good. And you only get to do that 49 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: and so you can hear the applause in the background, 50 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: and you're not good for Brook. So after some more 51 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: back and forth she got the opportunity to respond, and 52 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: hear she did. 53 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 4: And I do not agree with the clearly gendered and 54 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 4: patronizing language that Andrea Vance used to reduce senior cabinet 55 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 4: ministers to girl busses, height squads, references to girl meth and. 56 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: Making sure I had the right clip there. That could 57 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: have been a disaster. But obviously, as I said, so fine, 58 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: it's fine nowadays if the media use that word, don't 59 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: you know what apparently it is. But after question time 60 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: here's what she told reporters. 61 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 4: We should not need to face myself genestic abuse. And 62 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 4: I've been standing up for myself and for other female 63 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 4: senior members of this cabinet. 64 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: Now despite all of this going on, the Labor leader 65 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: Chris Hopkins has still yet to weigh in on the 66 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: language used on that column and say anything negative about 67 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: it at all. 68 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: That I'm not going to criticize the editorial decisions of newspapers. 69 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: They often newspapers often publish things I disagree with, and 70 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: that's the nature of democracy. We live in a free country. 71 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: We live in a country of free speech. 72 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: So I think the Labor's absolutely butchered it today. I 73 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: can't believe how badly this is backfired on them. It's 74 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: right as a shocker. Hey, and what about the Greens. 75 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: What's your favorite thing in their absolutely nutty unicorn budget? 76 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: How much time do you have? Let me count the 77 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: reasons I reckon. The jet tax is thee The jet 78 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: tax is good, which is a five thousand tax. It's 79 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: five thousand per person tax here and then five thousand 80 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: per person when you leave as well. Listen, this is 81 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: not going to happen. Eighty eight billion dollars worth of 82 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: d taxes, as well as taking the government's debt fifty 83 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: three point eight percent of GDP currently around forty percent. 84 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: It's a lot of money. Now, I'll tell you what 85 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: my favorite thing about today was listening to the government 86 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: parties react to this, because they were clearly having quite 87 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Have listened to Seymour. 88 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 2: Look, this is just left wing trump Ism. It's South 89 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 2: Pacific populism, which says your problems are caused by this success. 90 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 2: We're going to pull them down in order to solve 91 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 2: your problems. 92 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: Chris Luxon wasn't very happy either. Oh, it's actually clown 93 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: show economics is what it is. I mean, it's an 94 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: absolute circus. And of course we had Winston Raymond Peters Well, 95 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: I got the manifesto by Clay Marx and Marama Ingles 96 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: and so at that point he pulled out a copy 97 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: of the Greens policy and on the front was replaced 98 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: with a big red page with a hammer and sickle 99 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: on the front of it. So he's had a fun 100 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: day as Winston. 101 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: Oh we all. 102 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: Hey, by the way, quickly, do you want to tell 103 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: everybody what you text me last night? Ah? Yes I did, 104 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: I said Heather. I am the chair of the press 105 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: gallery and if I so choose, I can bar you 106 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: from the budgets or stop talking so much trash me 107 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,559 Speaker 1: in my opinion, and I stand by it. Heather who's 108 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: really in charge here? Yeah that's right. Yeah, thank you 109 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: for that, Jason, appreciate it. Just you go and own that. 110 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: See that's threatening behavior coming out of Wellington. Buy Everybody 111 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: of Late. Jason Wall's political editor. 112 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 3: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 113 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 3: news Talks it'd b from four pm weekdays, or follow 114 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 3: the podcast on iHeartRadio