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Speaker 1: trust for the full picture. Heather Duplicylan Drive with one

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Speaker 2: That'd be afternoon. Welcome to the show coming up today.

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Speaker 2: Labor may help national get that policy costings unit across

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Speaker 2: Do you want to know what kids think are cool nowadays?

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Speaker 2: The old school digital cameras will find out why. And

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Speaker 2: the number of apartments coming to Auckland has crashed. We'll

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy, Ellen right, tell me.

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Speaker 2: What you think of this. There seems to be a

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Speaker 2: He now owes IRD one hundred and seventy thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: That is his original loan, plus basically mostly interest. He

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Speaker 2: Then he lost the pilot, did it for six years,

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Speaker 2: but this loan is so big he doesn't know if

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Speaker 2: Should we let him off his debt or do you

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Speaker 2: like me look at what a regional commercial pilot in

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Speaker 2: think that's entirely her decision. She can come back and

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Speaker 2: And maybe when she gets here we'll have a little

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Speaker 2: she is, which is clearly valuing her money over her

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Speaker 2: the border only happen to the worst defenders who've ignored

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Speaker 2: all attempts by IID to sort out the debt. Now,

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Speaker 4: You know, I would love these buyers to come knocking

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Speaker 2: Do you know metism I do.

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Speaker 4: And I did see the article today about him doing

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Speaker 2: What do you Reckon's the hardest thing about switching from

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Speaker 4: Controlling everything about your own life Suddenly, I think you

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Speaker 4: There's no one there telling you you've got a deadline

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Speaker 2: He'll have been listening. Ruden Christy real estate agent, everybody,

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Speaker 2: Hither about ten years ago. So hubby brought a new car,

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Speaker 4: Sure, Philippah?

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Speaker 2: Those are the days you could afford property. Sadly we

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Speaker 2: I love that you live like a gangster. Good for you.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen past four Jason Pine Weekend Sport hosters with US

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Speaker 8: I haven't even bought junk food on a whim, let

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Speaker 2: a whim What do you reckon? Whim What would it

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Speaker 2: I need to have this right now.

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Speaker 1: Recapping the day's big news and making tomorrow's headlines. It's

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Speaker 2: There is the any sign of the hushroom jury, Marie? No,

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on Youth Talks. They'd be drive

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Speaker 1: the motion is adopted.

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Speaker 2: Trump's One Big Beautiful Bill Act has got through Congress

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Speaker 2: after a busy day of nights negotiating. All but two

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Speaker 12: Trump is stoked.

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Speaker 13: There could be no better Birthday present for America than

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Speaker 14: America is coming back.

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Speaker 2: And finally, it's Pride Week in Spain and Madrid has

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Speaker 1: A Friday sports Tuddle which international correspondence with ends and

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Speaker 15: Always good to talk to you and the listeners across

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Speaker 15: the beautiful, vast specific ocean.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so what's in this big beautiful bell Act.

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Speaker 15: Well, let's say it's seven trillion New Zealand dollars worth

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Speaker 15: he wants more investment to go into the military, he

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Speaker 15: wants more investment to tackle his border force and immigration issues.

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Speaker 15: So that is largely where a significant portion of that

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Speaker 15: money is going towards. It is a vast portion of money.

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Speaker 15: The huge concern has been obviously, including from Elon Musk,

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Speaker 15: that it is going to increase America's deficit by potentially

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Speaker 15: trillions of dollars. So this has managed to make its

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Speaker 15: way through Congress. It has taken a very long time.

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Speaker 15: It's snuck through the Senate with JD. Evance making the

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Speaker 15: tie breaking vote, and then it was only a couple

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Speaker 15: of Republicans who went against Donald Trump.

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Speaker 14: Much to his dissatisfaction.

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Speaker 15: But after hours and hours and hours of debate in

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Speaker 15: the House, finally, as expected, it went through very very

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Speaker 15: narrow margin for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 14: But he has the numbers, so he got it through.

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Speaker 2: So he's managed to get a win on that, but

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Speaker 2: doesn't look like he's going to get a win with

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Speaker 2: usan does it.

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Speaker 14: No, it doesn't. I mean, this is the conflict between

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Speaker 14: Russia and Ukraine. He said he could end in the day.

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Speaker 14: He is sub six.

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Speaker 15: Months now into his presidency and he hasn't got there yet.

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Speaker 15: He's had six phone calls with Vladimir Putin's, you'd have

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Speaker 15: another with voladimirs Vilensky tomorrow US time.

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Speaker 14: But still there is no sign of this conflict ending.

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Speaker 15: I mean, there's some suggestion Russia might now be about

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Speaker 15: to launch another offensive inside Ukraine, and Russia is essentially,

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Speaker 15: as it has said all along, wants to maintain the

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Speaker 15: territory that he has essentially gone into Ukraine with. It

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Speaker 15: wants to take essentially where its troops are now and

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Speaker 15: draw that as a Russian border. But when you look

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Speaker 15: at the historic maps that Russia believes that Ukraine is

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Speaker 15: essentially according to the old Soviet ey as well, really

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Speaker 15: Ukraine to them is only Kiev. So they have waged

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Speaker 15: this war four years now and it shows little side

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Speaker 15: of ending. Voladimi's Zelenski's been in Europe trying to get

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Speaker 15: the backing of European leiters once more. That is going

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Speaker 15: to be crucial to him, and he knows that because

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Speaker 15: America has slowly started to even recently just paused a

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Speaker 15: whole bunch of weapons help that was going to go

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Speaker 15: his way. So another call with Vladimir Putin, but seemingly

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Speaker 15: no end of this war and such just yet.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan, do you reckon that Donald Trump is serious about

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Speaker 2: this UFC event a the White House?

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Speaker 14: Boy, oh boy, oh boy.

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Speaker 15: I mean, there's been plenty of ideas floated that he

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Speaker 15: has yet to.

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Speaker 14: Come up with one. If you want to wind the

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Speaker 14: clock back.

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Speaker 15: He talked about turning Gaza into a riviera of the

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Speaker 15: Middle East.

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Speaker 14: I mean, there's been no sign of that happening.

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Speaker 15: He talked about taking it under American control, under American

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Speaker 15: ownership for a period of time. Yes, he's flagged this

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Speaker 15: idea tonight in Iowa, where he's essentially on the eve

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Speaker 15: of America's Independence Day, suggested that to help celebrate the

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Speaker 15: two hundred and fiftieth year of America's independence, which of

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Speaker 15: course is coming up, that what better way, in his eyes,

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Speaker 15: to celebrate it than with a UFC fight on the

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Speaker 15: lawns of the White House. He says, We've got big grounds,

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Speaker 15: we could host it there. Of course, he's been right

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Speaker 15: in the arms of the UFC bosses day to White

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Speaker 15: since essentially many many years now, he turns up to

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Speaker 15: these UFC bouts regularly, and he seems to think it

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Speaker 15: would be a wonderful television event. We all know that

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Speaker 15: the President of the United States of America loves the

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Speaker 15: way that things look on television, and this seems to

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Speaker 15: be one way he thinks he could help America celebrate

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Speaker 15: two hundred and fifty years.

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Speaker 14: Fight in the White House quite literally.

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Speaker 2: Ah, brilliant, Hey, thank you so much, Jonathan, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Kursley, Channel nine US correspondent. Trump said, we have

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Speaker 2: a lot of land there. This is the White House.

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Speaker 2: We have a lot of land there. We're going to

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Speaker 2: build a little We are not Dana is going to

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Speaker 2: do it. We're going to have a UFC Fight Championship fight,

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Speaker 2: full fight, like twenty to twenty five thousand people, and

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Speaker 2: we're going to do that as part of two fifty.

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Speaker 2: Also two fifty being the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary.

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Speaker 2: I can't think of a better way, can you to

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Speaker 2: celebrate the US Declaration of Independence? Then attacky old UFC fight.

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Speaker 2: Having said that, you're tuning in, aren't you. I'm chuning in.

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Speaker 2: We're all tuning in because we want to see the

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Speaker 2: shenanigans that goes down when he does stuff like this

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Speaker 2: to Victoria, that childcare worker case in Victoria, that you know,

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Speaker 2: the guy who's been a terrible creep with children. Joshua

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Speaker 2: Brown just unbelievably upsetting to the people over there. But

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Speaker 2: have a listen to this. His mum is famous too,

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Speaker 2: and not for good reasons. His mum, Tracy Brown, was

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Speaker 2: a prison officer, and Tracy Brown featured in an inquest

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Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. It was the inquestion to

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Speaker 2: the death of a woman. She died in jail. It

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Speaker 2: seems it's hard quite a kind of little lard to

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Speaker 2: figure it out, but I think she died from terrible

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Speaker 2: withdrawals from Heroine anyway. Whatever, She was incredibly sick for

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Speaker 2: like a number of hours, making a hell of a

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Speaker 2: lot of noise. Tracy Brown, the mum just paid her

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Speaker 2: no attention, told her to shut up. She said later

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Speaker 2: she called a nurse for help. She hadn't.

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Speaker 16: She lied.

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Speaker 2: So that's the son, that's the mum. Sixteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Five politics was centric credit, check your customers and get

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Speaker 1: payments certainty.

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Speaker 2: Right, It's fourteen away from five. Jason Wall's News Talks

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Speaker 2: political leaders is with a fellow Jason.

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Speaker 11: Good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 2: So what's raw what you have been up to? Well?

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Speaker 11: I mean it comes from a social media post that

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Speaker 11: he made a couple of weeks ago, and he basically

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Speaker 11: he was praising Bikino Faso's president Ibrahim Traore in his

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Speaker 11: social media post, calling him a modern day hero. He

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Speaker 11: said there was a video of him making a speech

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Speaker 11: and in the comment attaching it said, tino ranga tiretanga

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Speaker 11: is not only a domestic commitment, it's an international determination

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Speaker 11: or fight for political economics, social and cultural independence and

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Speaker 11: liberation is not a dream, It's a decision.

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Speaker 17: Now.

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Speaker 11: David Seymour isn't pleased that this, given Traore's track record

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Speaker 11: is a little bit patchy. He says, his hero speaking

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Speaker 11: about Rai here is a Marxist dictator who has delayed

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Speaker 11: elections and banned homosexuality. Tipati Marii is not in parliament

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Speaker 11: to uphold democracy but wreck it now. The Human Rights

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Speaker 11: Watch has accused Bikino Faso's government forces and allied media

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Speaker 11: of massacring up to one hundred and thirty civilians in March,

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Speaker 11: So obviously this is not the sort of usual role

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Speaker 11: model people would have. Now, Chris Luxen was asked about

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Speaker 11: this today. Here's what he said.

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Speaker 15: Well, it's pretty wacky remarks from Rawori, to be honest,

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Speaker 15: and ultimately that's a problem for the Labor Party because

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Speaker 15: he's going to be one.

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Speaker 18: Of their four potential deputy promisters if that's the case.

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Speaker 5: So I'd go ask Chris Hopkins about that.

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Speaker 11: Now, there might be people listening to this being like,

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Speaker 11: why are you talking about this nonsense? It's not politics,

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Speaker 11: And to that I would say that we do have

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Speaker 11: a tendency. I mean, imagine if the shoe was on

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Speaker 11: the other foot, and it wouldn't even have to be

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Speaker 11: a sitting act Party member, even if it was like

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Speaker 11: some obscure candidate from some part of the country that

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Speaker 11: said that some fascists somewhere was his hero, it would

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Speaker 11: be coverage wall to wall everywhere. So it's just fair

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Speaker 11: to provide a little bit of balance when the shoe

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Speaker 11: is on the other foot.

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Speaker 2: Who said, why are we talking about this?

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Speaker 11: Oh? I know. I'm just saying that there would be

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Speaker 11: people out there that listen to these sort of these

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Speaker 11: Beltway arguments that we have about what social media, what

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Speaker 11: politicians say on social media, and I can understand there

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Speaker 11: would be people out there saying act talk about the

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Speaker 11: real issues as opposed to just a couple of politicians

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Speaker 11: squabbling on social media.

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Speaker 2: So what's Deborah been up to then.

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Speaker 11: Deborah Russell, She went on Nick Mills's Wellington Morning Show

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Speaker 11: to say the following thing.

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Speaker 19: But the biggest set of crime in this country is

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Speaker 19: actually domestic violence and we haven't seen the national government

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Speaker 19: responding to that meaningfully. And in fact police have been

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Speaker 19: told not to attend domestic violence crimes because they're not

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Speaker 19: as important as some other crimes.

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Speaker 11: So police being told not to attend domestic violence crime.

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Speaker 11: As soon as I heard it, alarm bell started ringing

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Speaker 11: in my head, thinking that's probably not true. So I

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Speaker 11: followed up with the Police Minister, Mark Mitchell and he

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Speaker 11: said the claim that police have been told not to

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Speaker 11: attend domestic of violence incidents is complete nonsense. It is

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Speaker 11: another deliberate attempt from the opposition to undermine our hard

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Speaker 11: working police officers and mislead the public. He goes on

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Speaker 11: to say that police are triaging differently in relation to

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Speaker 11: social issues that are more appropriate for a non police response. However,

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Speaker 11: they have been very clear that they are not transitioning

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Speaker 11: away from attending family violence events that require police response.

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Speaker 11: In fact, according to Mark Mitchell, police are attending seven

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Speaker 11: point seven percent more family violence events as a Priority

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Speaker 11: one emergency event than had they they had previously been

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Speaker 11: doing so. In response to this, we did get in

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Speaker 11: contact with Deborah Russell, who is that she's a former

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Speaker 11: minister for the Labor Party. For those that don't know,

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Speaker 11: she said family violence is one of the most common

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Speaker 11: forms of violent crime and often unreported, which is what

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Speaker 11: I meant to say, which is not exactly what she

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Speaker 11: said on the problem.

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Speaker 2: She did so she didn't mean to say that police

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Speaker 2: had been told not to attend DV anymore.

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Speaker 11: No, she meant to say that family violence was one

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Speaker 11: of the most common forms of violent crime and is

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Speaker 11: often unreported, which you know, listen back to actually what

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Speaker 11: she said. So what she said she said. She was

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Speaker 11: meant to say family violence is one of the most

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Speaker 11: common forms of violent crime and is often unreported. Here's

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Speaker 11: what she said.

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Speaker 19: But the biggest set of crime in this country is

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Speaker 19: actually domestic violence and we haven't seen the national government

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Speaker 19: responding to that meaningfully, and in fact police have been

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Speaker 19: told not to achieved domestic barance crimes because they're not

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Speaker 19: as important.

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Speaker 5: As some other crimes.

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Speaker 11: I don't know how she thought she meant to say

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Speaker 11: the other thing, but anyway, so.

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Speaker 2: The other thing. Yees hey, Jason, what do you think

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Speaker 2: of the policy costing Unit's idea? Good or bad?

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Speaker 20: Ah?

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Speaker 11: To be honest, it would have been gamed politically and

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Speaker 11: it would have been I mean, it sounds good in theory,

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Speaker 11: but it just sounds like at the end of the day,

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Speaker 11: it would have just been a whole other level of

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Speaker 11: attacks that political parties would have had on this independent union,

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Speaker 11: despite the fact that it would have been independent. So

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Speaker 11: I think good. It was good in theory. I've always

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Speaker 11: thought that we need something like this like Australia has,

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Speaker 11: like other countries have, But I think it probably would

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Speaker 11: have become another political football. If I'm honest, I.

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Speaker 2: Actually agree with you on Mack. Jason. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: We'll read the political week that was with you later

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Speaker 2: on the show. That's Jason Wall's news talks. Hev politically,

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Speaker 2: so we'll come back to that policy costing unit. And

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Speaker 2: also got a problem with transmission Gully. Well tell you

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Speaker 2: about that.

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Speaker 12: Nine away from five.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newsmakers. Mike Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 18: Tampo updating the two thousand and nine Joint Management agreement

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Speaker 18: between the Council and NATI two Falta. The critics argue

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Speaker 18: the treaty principles are embidding co governance directly into council

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Speaker 18: operations near of Taos. David throu wad this proposed update

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Speaker 18: no public visibility, you would say.

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Speaker 3: Not true, Not true. We're set up a subcommittee now,

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Speaker 3: ready to present to the public and see what they say.

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Speaker 18: What did the public go, We're sick of this, we

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Speaker 18: don't want it.

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Speaker 3: Well, we've got the stuff to go and do a payrian.

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Speaker 3: What consultation looks like? Is that a possibility?

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Speaker 18: What do you mean as consultation of possibility?

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Speaker 6: Surely you're going.

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Speaker 3: To consult No, Well, it's an agreement between two party

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Speaker 3: tar and the Council.

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Speaker 18: So maybe no consultation. David back Monday from six am

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Speaker 18: the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the land Driver, Discovery News

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Speaker 18: Talk z B hither.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's fair to talk down Treory as

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Speaker 2: that report of the Jessup Walls has He's a hero

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Speaker 2: to most Africans, and he's probably not the one involved

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Speaker 2: in the killings purported. He has transformed his people's lives,

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Speaker 2: well I suppose, so tell you what he has transformed.

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Speaker 2: He's transformed the lives of gay people. I suppose by

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Speaker 2: banning homosexuality. So yeah, sounds like a really cool guy.

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Speaker 2: Five away from six. Now, on that policy costing unit,

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk to David seymore about it shortly.

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Speaker 2: I agree with Jason Will sounds like a really good

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Speaker 2: idea because who wouldn't love it? Right, You've got a party,

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Speaker 2: let's say Green Party comes out with an idea, some

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Speaker 2: sort of a policy or a budget or whatever, and

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Speaker 2: they go, this is what we think. That's hard things

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Speaker 2: should work, And how do we know if any of

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Speaker 2: those numbers actually are realistic? A policy costing unit like

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Speaker 2: this would be able to go through it and go,

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Speaker 2: oh yep, no, this looks cool or nah mah, you're

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Speaker 2: missing huge amount of money here. There's a fiscal whole

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Speaker 2: of two billion dollars or whatever, So be handy in

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Speaker 2: that respect. Right, But here's the thing. Parties already do this.

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Speaker 2: They already get their stuff independently costed. They could use

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Speaker 2: them for metrics. They can use Enzia, they could use

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Speaker 2: any of these people. They do it, they pay for it.

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Speaker 2: So why would we, as the tax payers, who are

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Speaker 2: already lumped with a significant amount of tax and not

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Speaker 2: enough money in this country? We have two little tax

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Speaker 2: for all the stuff we spend money on, why would

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Speaker 2: we want to now pay for it as well? We

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Speaker 2: would be like, oh, you guys are paying for that,

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Speaker 2: Come on here, we'll pay for it for you. No

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Speaker 2: terrible idea. Let them pay for it. They are really

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Speaker 2: paying for it. Why would we fix something that Why

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Speaker 2: would we fix something that ain't broke right? Just leave

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Speaker 2: them to it. So anyway, we'll talk to David about it.

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Speaker 2: See what he's got to say about that quickly. On

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Speaker 2: Transmission Gully, I didn't realize this, but Transmission Gully is

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Speaker 2: not just a high way for cars. It's also a

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Speaker 2: highway for ferrets. The conservationists really worried about it, because

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Speaker 2: the conservationists predator free Wellington have been spending donkeys years

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Speaker 2: and countless numbers of dollars trying to get rid of

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Speaker 2: all the ferrets and the stoats and the rats and

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Speaker 2: stuff out of Wellington City. Now they're worried about the

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Speaker 2: ferrets heading down from the carpety coast on Transmission Gully

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Speaker 2: because apparently pests like ferrets are lazy and they will

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Speaker 2: use the quickest way to get from a to B,

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Speaker 2: and a road the quickest way. So the ferrets are

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Speaker 2: going to start marching down the road. And already this

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Speaker 2: just sounds to you ridiculous right now, it doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: You're like, no, this is this is absolute bs. What

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Speaker 2: a load of toshh nana. Listen to this. There have

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Speaker 2: been heaps of pests that have been found in traps

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Speaker 2: along Transmission Gully and as roadkill on the road in

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Speaker 2: the fifteen months to January twenty four. January last year,

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Speaker 2: fifteen months pre that, there were two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: six pests found along the gully. Fifteen months since seven

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Speaker 2: hundred and one pest. It's almost a threefold increase. That

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Speaker 2: come in, I come in for your Wellington. The farthest

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Speaker 2: south that a ferret has been found on the motorway

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Speaker 2: was at Hayward's in twenty twenty three. It's just a

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Speaker 2: matter of time. They will breach those walls. Winter is coming.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe it. Never knew that was the risk.

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Speaker 2: I still would take the road, though, wouldn't you if

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Speaker 2: you were like the risk of the road is the

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Speaker 2: ferret's come a march and down from the Capity coast.

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Speaker 2: Used to be like, I'll take the road, take my

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Speaker 2: chances with those ferrets, right. David Seymore's next, and then

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Speaker 2: Crispin Ferry Holdings, who wants to give me a telling off?

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Speaker 12: Stand by.

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Speaker 1: Digging through the spin spins to find the real story story.

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Speaker 1: It's hither dupussy on drive with one New Zealand let's

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Speaker 1: get connected news talks.

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Speaker 20: That'd be.

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Speaker 2: Afternoon. Labor has popped to help National create a policy

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Speaker 2: costing unit. It's piped up because neither Act nor New

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Speaker 2: Zealand first want to help National, there by killing the

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Speaker 2: idea the unit would cost and verify political party's election promises.

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Speaker 2: David Seymour was the leader of the ACT party and

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Speaker 2: with us. Hello, David, Hey, how would you feel if

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Speaker 2: National goes behind your back and does this with Labor?

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Speaker 9: Well, I didn't know this was a psychology show. It's

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Speaker 9: not about my feelings. But one thing I can tell

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Speaker 9: you is that the government has a position which that

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Speaker 9: we oppose this policy and we expect each other amongst

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Speaker 9: the three parties to vote together. Sometimes there are things

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Speaker 9: that one of the three or two of the three

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Speaker 9: parties even are not particularly happy with, but we will

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Speaker 9: go to the House and vote together on the issues.

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Speaker 9: So I don't know about feelings, but that would be

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Speaker 9: quite a departure from the way the government operates.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you would expect that National will not take

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Speaker 2: labor up on the software.

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Speaker 9: As a matter of collective responsibility. The National members are

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Speaker 9: part of a cabinet that forms a government which is

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Speaker 9: agreed that we're not doing this. So you know, everything's

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Speaker 9: opened to negotiation in life. But that would be your

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Speaker 9: starting point.

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Speaker 2: What is your problem with the idea?

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Speaker 9: Well, I think you've got to ask what problems it's solving.

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Speaker 9: You know, as a party, actors put out fully costed,

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Speaker 9: comprehensive alternative budgets every year that we've been in opposition.

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Speaker 9: Everyone has agreed that the accurate and fear may not

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Speaker 9: agree with the policies. That that's okay, that's politics, but

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Speaker 9: we them to be able to do it, so we

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Speaker 9: don't see the need for it. As for the problem

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Speaker 9: with it, a couple of things. One is I don't

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Speaker 9: like this idea that we New Zealanders are all kind

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Speaker 9: of a need of a bureaucracy to tell us what's

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Speaker 9: right and good or accurate. The truth is that the

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Speaker 9: bureaucracy frequently gets things wrong. There a good bunch of

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Speaker 9: New Zealanders, but they're not more correct than the rest

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Speaker 9: of us. Second of all, you know, the bureaucracy or

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Speaker 9: the government the government departments are held in check by

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Speaker 9: New Zealanders going to the polls and voting and elections

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Speaker 9: to change the direction of policy and basically keep them

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Speaker 9: under control. Now, for the bureaucracy to be involved in

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Speaker 9: the very process and effectively become a referee or a

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Speaker 9: judicator of the very process that is supposed to hold

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Speaker 9: it in check creates a difficult loop Constitutionally. It also

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Speaker 9: means that the bureaucracy is going to be involved and

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Speaker 9: assessing and making judgment calls about the nature of policies

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Speaker 9: that political parties are putting forward. So it politicizes. Then

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Speaker 9: there's no good reason to do it, no need for it.

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Speaker 9: But there's a lot of reasons why you might not

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Speaker 9: want to do it. Key amongst them is digging in

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Speaker 9: this idea that somehow, if you work for a government department,

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Speaker 9: you're a higher authority than any other New Zealander.

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Speaker 2: David, thank you, appreciate your time. That's David Seymour, AXS

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Speaker 2: Party leader Heather do for ce Ellen. If you were

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Speaker 2: listening at this time last night, you would have heard

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Speaker 2: the boss of Bluebridge telling us about his new fairy

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Speaker 2: that's just arrived seven months after ordering it. Tell you

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Speaker 2: who also heard that the competition, The people buying our

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Speaker 2: new publicly owned fairies are not happy. Chris mackenzie is

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Speaker 2: the chair of that business, Faerry Holdings Limited. Hello Chris,

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Speaker 2: good evening. Okay, what are you unhappy about?

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Speaker 5: Well, personally I'm not happy. First unhappy. Firstly, I'd like

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Speaker 5: to congratulate Blue Bridge. It's a good thing to have

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Speaker 5: a new theory. I think where the discussion is around,

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Speaker 5: and that is comparing blue Bridges purchasing and ours. If

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Speaker 5: you go back, the Ministerial Advisory Group, which was three

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Speaker 5: private sector people, advised government last year that there were

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Speaker 5: no suitable theories secondhand in the configuration that the government needed.

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Speaker 5: And just what I mean by that is the government

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Speaker 5: provides capacity all year round that the private sector can't afford.

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Speaker 5: So there's three thousands, not.

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Speaker 2: Because it's it's because of its rail capacity.

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Speaker 5: It's nothing to do with rail capacity.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what is it then it's it's.

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Speaker 5: The Ministerial Advisory Group advised ministers. There was no secondhand

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Speaker 5: theories in the configuration. And what I mean by that

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Speaker 5: is the size the passenger capacity that the government traditionally provides,

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Speaker 5: so that if you look at the Kiaohy of the Kaitaki,

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Speaker 5: for example, it's thirteen hundred and fifty passengers, whereas the

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Speaker 5: two Blue Bridges are five hundred passengers. So the government

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Speaker 5: provides that if you like that large capacity, that covers

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Speaker 5: your Christmas periods and everything else, and it wears the

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Speaker 5: cost of carrying all of that capacity twelve months of

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Speaker 5: the year.

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Speaker 2: So basically the Olivia, which Bluebridge have just brought in

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Speaker 2: seven months, is simply not big enough.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't have the passenger capacity. It has the cars

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Speaker 5: and the trucks and so forth, it doesn't have that

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Speaker 5: passenger capacity. And so what the government does is, rather

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Speaker 5: than having New Zealanders complain that they can't get from

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Speaker 5: north to south and vice versa over the holiday period

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Speaker 5: because of the restricted numbers, the government does provide that

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Speaker 5: larger number of yeah, yeah passengers.

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Speaker 2: How come though they could decide just before Christmas, let's

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Speaker 2: buy a fairy and then they've got the thing pulling

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Speaker 2: into Wellington Harbor seven months later, and we are, what

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Speaker 2: seven years down the track and we've got nothing. We

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Speaker 2: haven't even we don't even know who who's building our fairies?

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Speaker 5: No, we don't.

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Speaker 2: How can we can't move as fast as them?

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Speaker 5: Chris well hang On. New Zellan Railways purchased both the

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Speaker 5: Kai Teki and the Kaya Rahe second hand within the

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Speaker 5: same time span as Bluebridge did.

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Speaker 2: But I'm talking about now right. You guys have been

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Speaker 2: together since February. That's March, April, May June July, so

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Speaker 2: even five months and five months and they'd already bought

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Speaker 2: the vessel. It was probably leaving Denmark within five months.

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Speaker 10: No.

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Speaker 5: No, what I'm saying is, if you go back to

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Speaker 5: when the Raitory lost as propeller, the rail company was

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Speaker 5: able to buy the Stenna a Leg and have it

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Speaker 5: in New Zealand within the same time span. The government

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Speaker 5: decided last year it would not go with secondhand feries,

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Speaker 5: and it asked for two new fairies to be built.

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Speaker 5: Buying a new fory is not a matter of just

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Speaker 5: going into a shipyard.

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Speaker 2: No, I know that, but I mean surely like even

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Speaker 2: the negotiations to just like you haven't even decided who

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Speaker 2: you're going to buy it from and it's been five months.

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Speaker 2: That's donkeys.

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Speaker 5: If the Minister Rail announced on Tuesday that we had

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Speaker 5: reduced from what was it, fifty one shipyards down to

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Speaker 5: six and those are.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm not impressed by this, Chris. So what where's

872
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 2: the fairy?

873
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Speaker 5: The fairies will be there, we will sign.

874
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 2: I still have Chris, go away, do me a favor.

875
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: Go away if you have time. I know you're a

876
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 2: busy man. Go away and come back with a better

877
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: explanation for why you will take so long in the

878
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: public service to do things a way these guys in

879
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: the private service can do it so fast. I appreciate

880
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 2: your time. Thank you. That's Chris McKenzie, Chair of Fairy

881
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: Holdings Limited. Listen digital cameras. If you've got one lying

882
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: around the house, do not, for the love of God,

883
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: do not throw it away. Save it. The kids love it.

884
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: We'll explain why next quarter past. Heather David sounds tired.

885
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 2: Is he coping David. I think maybe he's tired, but

886
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: I also think factor in that David has got a

887
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 2: strategy of just taking potshots at the media all the time,

888
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: and that broadly includes this shows. It's just their strategy.

889
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: Just leave them to it. It's okay, you know. They

890
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 2: stick the cameras on, the microphones on themselves, are filming

891
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: it all the time. It's what act gets up to.

892
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: We're okay with that. They can do that. Eighteen past five,

893
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,959
Speaker 2: here's a blast from the past. Remember those crappy film

894
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: and digital cameras we used to use before the iPhones

895
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 2: came in. It turns out the gen z as the

896
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: kids nowadays tripping over themselves to get their hands on

897
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: one of these things. Nick Coe is the manager for

898
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Speaker 2: Auckland Camera Center in Morningside and with us.

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Speaker 21: Hey, Nick, good evening, Heather.

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00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: Are you selling a lot of these little digital cameras

901
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: to the kids?

902
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Speaker 6: We are.

903
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 21: We've seen a huge increase over the last few years

904
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Speaker 21: of these cameras. We've been selling them new, used, and

905
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 21: just whatever we can get our hands on. We just

906
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 21: can't keep them in style, right.

907
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 2: Kids want so many of them, you're running out.

908
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 21: Yes, there certain models we are, but the sort of

909
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 21: uptake and demand for them has been huge.

910
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 2: Why do they love them so much?

911
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 21: Well, I think there's a little bit of a split.

912
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 21: I think a lot of the younger kids, the gen

913
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 21: Z people, are wanting to kind of have a little

914
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 21: bit of a disconnect from their sort of digital lifestyle.

915
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 21: But also fashion k goes in circles, so I think

916
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 21: this is a little bit of a trendy thing as well.

917
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: Look, Nick, I can't be bothered with the fat can you,

918
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: Because you've got to take the photo, then you've got

919
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: to get the little memory card out, and then you've

920
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: got to download it on the computer, and then you've

921
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: got to upload it to Instagram. That just feels far

922
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: too hard, doesn't it.

923
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 21: It can be, but it's not as hard as you

924
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Speaker 21: would think. And the sort of the vibe that you

925
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Speaker 21: get from the older cameras, I think it's hard to

926
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Speaker 21: get that from an iPhone.

927
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 5: The iPhone photos and digital.

928
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 21: Photos that you get out of your phone do look

929
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 21: really really quite perfect and quite honed. And there's a

930
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 21: lot of AI and things in these cameras now in

931
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 21: phones too, So these older cameras they give you a soft,

932
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 21: kind of led out look that they're really keen to

933
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 21: kind of chase and invest the extra time.

934
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Speaker 2: To get Okay, Now, Nick, if anybody's got their hands

935
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 2: on a digital camera, you know, because I've got I've

936
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Speaker 2: got a bunch of them lying at the bottom of

937
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 2: the electronics box. Are they worth anything if I dig

938
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Speaker 2: them out?

939
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 21: Well, they could be. You need to check it thoroughly

940
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 21: to make sure it's working properly and that the battery

941
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 21: charge is okay.

942
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 5: But most digital cameras.

943
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 21: You can get spear batteries and things. But sure, you

944
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 21: never know, maybe you might find somebody who might want

945
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Speaker 21: to use one, or you can resell it.

946
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Speaker 2: Or gift it well gifted as if I'm going to

947
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Speaker 2: make every dollar I can off it. Thank you, Nick,

948
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Speaker 2: Nick coey Auckland Camera senter Manager. What it is is,

949
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're aware of it, but the kids,

950
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Speaker 2: the kids nowadays are just everything that we used to

951
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: do back in the day. They're doing so. You know,

952
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: you'd have your phone connected to your your aarphones with

953
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: a cord. They love that they got the chords back out.

954
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: You would have, you know, like a CD walkman. Do

955
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 2: you remember a CD walkman wasn't that just the most

956
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: annoying thing in the world, because you'd be walking with

957
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: your CD walkman, and we had skip skip skip skip

958
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 2: skip and you can't listen to They love it. Got

959
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: those out again, got the digital video recorders out again.

960
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 2: Got the digital cameras at it and why they love

961
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: the digit got the oh it doesn't even end there.

962
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: Got the cargo pants. Remember when the cargo pants were

963
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: big in the late nineties early two thousands, because Malcy

964
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 2: was wearing them from the spy skills. What about the

965
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: bell bottoms? They got them out again. The crop tops

966
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: with the middrift showing, got them out again. Like they're

967
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 2: doing it all. They're watching sex in the city, They're

968
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: watching reruns of Friends. Basically wish they were living in

969
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: the nineties and early two thousands. Welln't that great?

970
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 11: It was?

971
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 2: Okay, it was a pretty good time. Actually come now, actually,

972
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: come to think of it, it was good time, but probably

973
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 2: better than now. Yeah, I can understand that anyway. So

974
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 2: why they're into the digital cameras is because the digital

975
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: cameras flash is so intensive, washes everything out and they

976
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: just they are vibing that look big time five twenty two.

977
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Speaker 1: Informed Inside into today's issues. It's Heather duplicy Ellen drive

978
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 1: with one New Zealand let's get connected news talk. Sa'd

979
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: be bick.

980
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: We can for Dunedin obviously because the old French game

981
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: versus the All Blacks is on tomorrow night. We're gonna

982
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 2: head there shortly, just see how things are going and

983
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: then talk to the sports huddle before six o'clock. Right now,

984
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: it's twenty four past five. You know what, It hadn't

985
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: occurred to me until this week, how much trouble the

986
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: Labour Party is an on law and order And I

987
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: only realized it because of that Green MP Timotha Paul's TikTok.

988
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 2: You'll have heard about the TikTok buy now as we

989
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: talked about it on the show. This is the TikTok

990
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: video where Tam suggests that finding people for shop lifting

991
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: is a bit main because people only shoplift to put

992
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: food on the table, and so all we'll be doing

993
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: by finding them is criminalizing poor people as of completely

994
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: forgetting that her mate Goldris Garriman was not poor, given

995
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: that she was on a salary of around about one

996
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy thousand dollars and she still liked a

997
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 2: little bit of the old five fingered discount. The TikTok

998
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 2: was so nutty that the Justice Minister, Paul Goldsmith dedicated

999
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: an entire press release to pointing out that Tam thinks

1000
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: it's okay to steal things from other people. Now, this

1001
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: is the trouble that Labor has got. Tamotha Paul is

1002
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: not just some nobody Green MP. She is the Green

1003
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: Party's Corrections and Police spokesperson. And this was not a

1004
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: brain fart. This is a theme. Tam wants quote radical

1005
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 2: police abolition. She also doesn't like beat policing, she doesn't

1006
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 2: like them walking on the street. And she also launched

1007
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: a fundraising campaign for a group wanting to defund the

1008
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: police and close the court system altogether. Now how does

1009
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: Labor work with that? How does Labour come to us

1010
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: the voters and say, hey, we've heard you know, you

1011
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 2: don't like the crime. So we're going to go hard

1012
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: on crime. We're going to stop the shoplifting. We're going

1013
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: to have more police going to lock up more bad guys.

1014
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: They might not be able to do that. They can't

1015
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 2: say any of that because it might not be able

1016
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: to do that, because they might win the election and

1017
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: then go into coalition with the Green Party and then

1018
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 2: Tam will say nop, not going to do that. Now

1019
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: you knew Labour because I knew this. You and I

1020
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 2: both know Labour's got a problem convincing us about wealth

1021
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 2: taxes because the Greens love that, and you know that

1022
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: they've got a problem kind of explaining all of the

1023
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: Maori parties nutty stuff away. But now you can add

1024
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: to that law and order as another coalition party problem,

1025
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 2: Heather do for see Allen Heather. The interview with the

1026
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 2: guy from the Fairies helps me to understand why it

1027
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: takes so long for us to get anything done in

1028
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: the public sector. Right? Is it because of this? Is

1029
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: it because when Chris was trying to explain to us

1030
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: they couldn't buy the livia he said.

1031
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 5: This the Ministery of Advisory Group advised ministers there was

1032
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 5: no secondhand theories in the configuration. And what I mean

1033
00:47:55,560 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 5: by that is the size the passenger capacity that the

1034
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 5: government traditionally provide.

1035
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: He could have just said it's not big enough. All

1036
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: he just did, that's all, it's not big enough. But

1037
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Speaker 2: he took sixteen seconds to say something that in the

1038
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Speaker 2: end I don't know that we did you would you

1039
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 2: have understood it on less I'd explained probably not. That's

1040
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: that's the problem with the public sector anyway. Rachel Reeves,

1041
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: the Chancellor of the UK, you know, the one we

1042
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 2: were talking about on the show yesterday, for crying. She's

1043
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 2: appeared again. She's explained it. She says she was upset.

1044
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: It was a personal issue. Not going to go into

1045
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 2: the details of that. It's nothing to do with the

1046
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: Speaker giving her a ripping, nothing to do with the

1047
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: Prime Minister not expressing confidence. It's just a personal issue.

1048
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: Smart move, though, completely unsackable now once you've cried in public,

1049
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 2: the boss can't sack your headlines.

1050
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: Next on the iHeart app and in your car on

1051
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: your drive home it's hither duplicy Ellen drive with one

1052
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: New Zealand. Let's get connected news talks'd be if you're.

1053
00:48:53,400 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 22: Feeling down, make you have around slowly.

1054
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: We've got a bit of a problem with apartments in

1055
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 2: our biggest city in Auckland, like there's a massive crunch.

1056
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: You just aren't enough apartments being built. We'll deal with

1057
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 2: that after six o'clock. Also, apparently I was going a

1058
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 2: bit rough on Goalri's government, because the truth is she

1059
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: was just starting early on the wealth tax, just a

1060
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: little bit of redistribution, which is normal for the left.

1061
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 2: Twenty four away from six sports huddle is going to

1062
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: be thus shortly. First though done, is all twenty nine

1063
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 2: thousand tickets to tomorrow's All Blacks match at fullsyth Bar

1064
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: Stadium and dnedn't have been snatched up. This is the

1065
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 2: only All Blacks tests in the South Island this year

1066
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,720
Speaker 2: and the city is pretty excited. Dunedin med Jewels Raditch

1067
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 2: is with us. Hello Jewels.

1068
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Speaker 10: Hello?

1069
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 2: Is it pumping already?

1070
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,959
Speaker 23: It is at a All Blacks party or pre game

1071
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 23: party tonight and the place is buzzing, that's for sure.

1072
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 2: Is this one that the All Blacks is throwing?

1073
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 23: No, no, no, it's just some friends to be having

1074
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 23: a quiet night and just resting up ready for the

1075
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 23: game tomorrow. You know, this is just at a business

1076
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 23: in town that it's having a party.

1077
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 2: Oh okay, you guys are into it, eh? Is it

1078
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 2: choker block? Is it impossible to get a room? Is

1079
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 2: it impossible to get a booking at a restaurant?

1080
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 23: Look, well I haven't tried, so I don't know. But no,

1081
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Speaker 23: We've got quite a lot of restaurants and accommodation seems

1082
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 23: to be I imagine it's all full, but you know,

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Speaker 23: we have means and mechanisms for people to find accommodations,

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Speaker 23: so I think I haven't heard any complaints. Put it

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Speaker 23: that way.

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Speaker 2: Now, this seems to me like this year is your

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Speaker 2: last hurrah, isn't it before you get some competition from

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Speaker 2: the people up in christ Church.

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Speaker 23: Well, in terms of all Black Tests, it will be

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Speaker 23: no different than what it's been for the last ten

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Speaker 23: years of having the stadium, because of course they're all black.

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Speaker 14: The Rugby Union will want to.

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Speaker 23: Share all Black Tests around just as they do now.

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Speaker 23: So it's not as though all all the tests are

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Speaker 23: played at Eden Park, which would be the best financial

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Speaker 23: return for the rugby Union, that they don't do.

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Speaker 3: That because they do.

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Speaker 23: You think what players to come from all around the country.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that if if there's a match, you know,

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Speaker 2: at Dunedin and then followed by a match in christ

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Speaker 2: you still have the Cantabrians coming to the Dunedin match

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Speaker 2: as well?

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Speaker 23: Oh yeah, well people follow the orb Blecks around the world.

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Speaker 23: I mean it's worth a what's one in Paris and

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Speaker 23: then the next one in London.

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Speaker 2: No trouble, Yeah, brilliant stuff. All right, well listen best

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Speaker 2: of like, do you want to have a punt at

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Speaker 2: who takes it out tomorrow?

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Speaker 17: Oh?

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Speaker 23: Look, I think the All Blacks will manage it.

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Speaker 14: I think they'll manage.

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Speaker 2: To get the job done by a marginal absolutely.

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Speaker 23: Oh well, I'd like to save five or ten points,

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Speaker 23: but I think it's more like twenty to twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I like that. That is confidence Jewell's got on. You go, well,

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Speaker 2: that's Jill's and enjoy your party this evening in town

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Speaker 2: Jill's Raditch, Dunedin's Mayor twenty two away from six the.

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Speaker 1: Friday Sports title with New Zealand South of East International

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Speaker 1: Real Zy the ones with local and global reach.

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Speaker 4: Of the players have got no caps at all, so

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Speaker 4: it's a development team with a few senior players involved.

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Speaker 14: It's honestly, in my mind it's completely yes.

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Speaker 17: I was certainly not reading into anything that it's a

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Speaker 17: week in French side. I think any French Test side

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Speaker 17: that plays against all this you have to give him

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Speaker 17: that most respect.

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Speaker 11: It was really good weekends, but honestly it's it's a

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Speaker 11: new weekends here on a very different track. We need

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Speaker 11: to chase every session and try and extract everything we can.

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Speaker 2: Right on the Sports title US. This evening we have

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Speaker 2: Jim Kay's producer of the Breakdown at Sky TV, and

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Speaker 2: Andrew Gordy sports commentator. Lads, Hello, God, I hear that.

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Speaker 2: Hello Jim. Do you like the refreshed All Blacks?

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Speaker 10: I do?

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Speaker 20: I do?

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Speaker 10: I do like this team. I love Billy Procter at center,

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Speaker 10: rica a Yuani back on the wing where he was

1138
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 10: so good when he came into the All Blacks. And

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Speaker 10: I've got to say I'm quite excited about toopu Way

1140
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 10: being at Blindside. I'm not normally a fair and heather

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Speaker 10: of locks moving to blind Side, but I think this

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Speaker 10: one could work. I think it could be, could be exciting,

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Speaker 10: and it could be one for a lot longer to come.

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Speaker 2: Did you know, Jim, because you know everything about rugby,

1145
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Speaker 2: did you know that Fabian Holland is actually from Holland.

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Speaker 10: I know it's tremendous than it is that.

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00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, a man that came from Zealand to New Zealand.

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Speaker 10: Literally I know, I know. And look, he's a big

1149
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 10: lump of a ladletic played well in Super rugby again,

1150
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 10: exciting to see him play. So yeah, there's there's a

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00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 10: lot that I like about this All Black side. There's

1152
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 10: a lot to get excited about. And yeah I'm looking

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Speaker 10: forward tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. Now, Gordy, what do you think of these

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Speaker 2: claims that the French team is under is under strength

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Speaker 2: and just a development team.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's legitimate, right, and it is. I

1158
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 6: heard the comments from Justin Marshall that you played just

1159
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 6: before we came on, and I backed Marcy's comments there.

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Speaker 6: It is disrespectful and it's it's not a great look.

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Speaker 6: And I think if we sent in understrength side a

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Speaker 6: sick and string developments team over to France, I would

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Speaker 6: expect that their rugby fans would say the same. But

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Speaker 6: purists over there, We're purists over here, and so I

1165
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 6: think all that means really is I fully expect and

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00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 6: this is not coming from arrogance, it is this is

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Speaker 6: what I expect. I expect the All Blacks to win

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Speaker 6: the series, Sreenil, and I expect them to win it

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Speaker 6: pretty comfortably, even though too Paul Via is playing at blindside,

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Speaker 6: which I personally am uncomfortable about. My good mate Jim

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Speaker 6: Kaye who's on with us today? Jim twitter bio. I

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Speaker 6: don't know if you know this, but Jim's Twitter bio

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00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 6: used to be too short for Locke, too slow for

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Speaker 6: loose forward. Now what does that tell you? Jim was

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Speaker 6: a premium athlete. We're premium athletes. But you're either one

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Speaker 6: or the other. You're either one or the other. And

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Speaker 6: I personally still have PPC from Scott Barrett starting a

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Speaker 6: blind side against England in that World Cup semi final

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Speaker 6: all those years ago. I'm nervous about it, but I'll

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Speaker 6: back race his judgment and I bet to there's no

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Speaker 6: flight on two paull B. But I'm uncomfortable about the selection.

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Speaker 10: The can I just comment on the state of the

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Speaker 10: French team, and look, it does appear to be a

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Speaker 10: team missing a whole heap of their top players. But

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Speaker 10: I still think we should be a little bit cautious here.

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Speaker 10: This is a French side that's beaten New Zealand in

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Speaker 10: the last four Test matches, and New Zealand are not

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Speaker 10: squeaky clean when it comes to sending away weekend teams

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Speaker 10: or two or as they did in two thousand and

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Speaker 10: five they played one fifteen against Ireland and a completely

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Speaker 10: different one a week later against Wales. In the seventies,

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Speaker 10: we sent two All Blacks teams away at the same time.

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Speaker 10: In two thousand and two, John Mitchell took away a

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Speaker 10: very weekend All Black side left a lot of players

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Speaker 10: here so they could rest and recover for the World

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Speaker 10: Cup the following year. So I don't agree with what

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Speaker 10: Frances have done, but I just think we need to

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Speaker 10: wait and see how this series plays out. And I

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Speaker 10: think sometimes we have a little bit of row tinted

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Speaker 10: glasses when we look at the way that the All

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Speaker 10: Blacks haven behaved over time.

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Speaker 2: You're not saying this, are you, because you work for

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Speaker 2: Sky TV and you need us to believe that there's

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Speaker 2: a contest in order for us to know.

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Speaker 10: I'm saying this because it's factually correct. Okay, it's factually correct.

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Speaker 10: Graham Murray got his debut as All Blacks captain because

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Speaker 10: he led them to Argentina. When there's another All Lacks

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Speaker 10: team going on somewhere else. We just need to be

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Speaker 10: we just need to be a little bit careful, you know,

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Speaker 10: Let's wait and see it. In three weeks time, we

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Speaker 10: might look back and Gordy's nostra damis and we say, yep,

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Speaker 10: three nil is what it was. And I hope that

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Speaker 10: it's three nil and I and I always hope that

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Speaker 10: that teams coming to New Zealand and bring their best teams.

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Speaker 10: And clearly France ever done that. Now, Jack doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 10: mean the All Blacks are going to run over the

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Speaker 10: top of them.

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Speaker 6: If we cannot be an under strength and experienced French

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00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 6: team a B team at home, what does that say

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Speaker 6: about the Black team?

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Speaker 10: Though it would be it would be, but you go

1222
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 10: back to nineteen eighty six when a Baby Blacks team

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Speaker 10: missing all of the Cavaliers, played France and beat them.

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Speaker 10: So you know, this is what happens is sport. The

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Speaker 10: team that's ripped off gets up and wins. Again. That's

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Speaker 10: another example of New Zealand not fielding a top strength

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00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 10: team because then the Cavaliers. So we just we just

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Speaker 10: need to be a bit careful, you know. History suggests

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Speaker 10: that the All Blacks have done not always the right

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Speaker 10: thing by the standard of their team as well.

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Speaker 2: What are you's saying at Gordia is that you need

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Speaker 2: to tune in tomorrow night, even if you're not sure,

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Speaker 2: even if you're absolutely sure, We'll take a break come

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Speaker 2: back shortly sixteen away from six.

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Speaker 1: A Friday Sports title with New Zealand Suburby's International Realty

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Speaker 1: find You're one.

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Speaker 2: Of a Kind back on the Sportshuddle with Andrew Gordy

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Speaker 2: and Jim Kay's Gordia. Are you worried about the Warriors

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Speaker 2: with all those injuries?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I am a bit worried. I am a bit worried,

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Speaker 6: to be honest. And the reason bang, it's the spine.

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Speaker 6: And I'm a big believer and a team of successful

1243
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 6: team has to have a strong spine. And I've obviously

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00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 6: lost Mitch fun Now, they've lost Luke Metcalf and they've

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00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 6: lost Charlestnikel clock Start, who of course will will come back.

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Speaker 6: But I'm worried about that. That is the middle of

1247
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 6: the team and that really dictates how the rest of

1248
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 6: the team plays. I think where the Warriors are perhaps

1249
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 6: a little fortunate, is that their next three games this

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00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 6: month against are against Letho Life, the Tigers, the Knights

1251
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Speaker 6: and the Titans. They might be able to scrape through

1252
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 6: that period and then Charlestnickle clock Shard will come back.

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Speaker 6: Maybe that'll give an opportunity for I think it'll be

1254
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Speaker 6: Tanner boys who comes into a place, look Sloop Metcalf

1255
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Speaker 6: and that might just give them an opportunity to ease

1256
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Speaker 6: through that period, get some stability back within the team,

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Speaker 6: and you know, hopefully they can finish the seasons.

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Speaker 2: But I heard Jim, I heard Mike Costklings say something

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Speaker 2: really interesting on air either today or yesterday, where he asked,

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Speaker 2: why it is that we always want to knock the

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00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 2: Warriors first opportunity we get, we have a crack at them.

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Speaker 2: What's up with that?

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Speaker 10: See? I completely disagree. Well, I think the Warriors get

1264
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Speaker 10: some of the softest media coverage of any sports team

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Speaker 10: in New Zealand. I just don't see where he's coming

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00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 10: from there. I think, you know, if you open up

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00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 10: the Herald and read the Warriors, they'd almost have to, well,

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Speaker 10: I don't know, commit an atrocity before there's a there's

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00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 10: a negative story about it. I think they get a

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Speaker 10: very very soft run from the Auckland media, particularly when

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Speaker 10: you compare it to I don't know the Blues or

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00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 10: most Super Rugby teens or any other sports team really

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00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:22,439
Speaker 10: they I think they get a soft run.

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Speaker 6: They'll tell you here that I'll tell you here that

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Speaker 6: it's not the media, it's the fans who and the

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00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 6: wider fan base that start doing that. And I'll tell

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Speaker 6: you why they do it. It's PTSD. It's because of

1278
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 6: what they've been used to for most of the club's existence,

1279
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Speaker 6: is that they're expecting, they're waiting for the Warriors to

1280
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Speaker 6: fall over. I think they're a better club than that now,

1281
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 6: and they are a better squad. There's a bit of

1282
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 6: culture there. I don't think they're the you know, the

1283
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,479
Speaker 6: sort of that they tended to fold, didn't they They would

1284
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 6: tend to fold any sort of adversity they would fold.

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Speaker 6: I think that moved beyond that now.

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Speaker 10: Maybe maybe Mike's been watching his wife's videos of him

1287
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Speaker 10: watching the Warriors.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, sometimes after a Warrior's game, I go to watch

1289
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Speaker 2: that just for a hope. Don't you do that?

1290
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Speaker 10: I know it's crazy. That's what sports about. Sports about

1291
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 10: being engaged and being passionate and being emotional, and if

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Speaker 10: it goes away, then sports disappears. You know, you've got

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Speaker 10: a care.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you do really have to. Now, Gordy, do you

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Speaker 2: think Liam Lawson's got his mojo back?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 6: I don't know that. I quite go that far. But

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Speaker 6: I think what he needs to do this weekend is

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Speaker 6: not necessarily better what he did last time out, but

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Speaker 6: he's got to show consistency and constant little improvement. So

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Speaker 6: what's important for Liam Lawson is that this isn't just

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Speaker 6: a flash in the pan and he finishes down the

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Speaker 6: pack again.

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Speaker 22: He's got it.

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Speaker 10: He's got to try.

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Speaker 6: To maintain that level consistency and at that that sort

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Speaker 6: of level where he's where he's managed to achieve. He

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Speaker 6: needs to maintain that otherwise he's going to be in trouble.

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Speaker 10: Jim, look Andrew Gordy drives down and look to like

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Speaker 10: a Formula one driver. So I back whatever he said,

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Speaker 10: but for the for me, for me, Formula one is

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Speaker 10: a bit like the Olympics. We are excited about it

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Speaker 10: and we are not Gordy, but most of us have

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Speaker 10: so knowledge because Liam Lawson's involved. What I know about

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Speaker 10: Formula one you could write on a postage stamp and

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Speaker 10: have a little bit room list over. But I'm interested

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Speaker 10: in it now because Liam Lawson's in it and he's

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Speaker 10: a Kiwi. And it's the same with lots of sports.

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Speaker 10: It's the same with the Olympics. All of a sudden.

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Speaker 10: We know rowing, we know kayaking, we know shop put,

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Speaker 10: we know longed up. Oh they should have done this,

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01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 10: they should have done that. I hope he does well.

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Speaker 10: If he drives like Gordy does through Kingsland, he's going

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Speaker 10: to be fine. But that's about all I know about

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Speaker 10: formula one.

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Speaker 2: Is this something you need to tell us, Gordy?

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Speaker 6: Look well, I can usually say is that the music's

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Speaker 6: up very loud. Is that what you mean? I usually

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Speaker 6: drive around with the radio. I'm pretty much at full board,

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Speaker 6: but I'd like to think I keep the speed under

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Speaker 6: control now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean, ain't you driving a family can

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01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 2: like it's a It's as you say in this end,

1334
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 2: but it's like a Nissan family Can.

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Speaker 6: She's humbleness and cash guy. To be honest, we're not

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Speaker 6: breaking any speed records.

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Speaker 2: All right, lads, thank you. I really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: Go well, the pair of you and enjoy the rugby

1339
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: and the Warriors and all the stuff that's happening. And

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Speaker 2: the F one. Jim Case Andrew Gording. Jim's right though,

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01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 2: way we all love the F one Now, no bloody

1342
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 2: idea what's going on most of the time. Just all

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01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 2: I see is cars going around really fasca go?

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Speaker 8: When?

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Speaker 2: When? When? That's all I understand? Eight away from six it's.

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Speaker 1: The Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

1347
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: my hard radio powered by News Talk zeb.

1348
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Speaker 2: Listen. Very sad to say this. This is news that's

1349
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 2: just come through, is that the workers at the New

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Speaker 2: World store which has burned down in Central Auckland, which

1351
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 2: I care about because, as I've told you, you know,

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Speaker 2: at Nauseum is my supermarket. It's very inconvenient for me

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01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 2: to have to go to the dairy now to buy

1354
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 2: the milk on the way home. But you know, such

1355
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 2: as life, first world problems anyway, much bigger problems is that, unfortunately,

1356
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 2: according to the workers' union, a lot of the staff

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Speaker 2: are now going to be made redundant. And I'm so

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Speaker 2: so sad to hear that because the staff at that

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01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 2: store were wonderful. I suppose we can all say that

1360
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 2: about our supermarket stores, you know, our personal supermarkets, that

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01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 2: we like the stuff. I really like the staff there.

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Speaker 2: But I guess also, I mean, what else could you

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Speaker 2: possibly do? Sounds like the company is at the very

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01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 2: least making an effort to try to find some work

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Speaker 2: for at least some of the staff, so they are

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Speaker 2: offering them roles at nearby stores or at the support center,

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Speaker 2: the distribution center and so on. They're also bringing forward there.

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Speaker 2: They're building a new world on Deer Voice Road in

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Speaker 2: Point Chev Is that the one on you? No, maybe

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01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 2: it's a further afield. No, it's in Point Chev building

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Speaker 2: it building it a supermarket and Point Chef. Anyway, they

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Speaker 2: were due to open that on the ninth of September.

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Speaker 2: They've now brought that forward to the nineteenth of August

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Speaker 2: to at least have a supermarket there. And unfortunately, really

1375
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 2: bad news the supermarket at the bottom of Franklin Road,

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01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 2: this one by Victoria Park. This is going to be

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01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 2: out of commission for two years. That is how extensive

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01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 2: the damage is. So yeah, hopefully, hopefully those staff are

1379
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 2: able to as many of them can find jobs as possible,

1380
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 2: and hopefully they'll be able to find jobs even outside

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01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 2: of food stuffs. Quickly, can I just do a really

1382
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 2: quick shout out. I've been meaning to do this for

1383
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 2: a little while. I don't really want to get into

1384
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 2: charity and stuff on the show, but I would like you,

1385
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 2: if you are able to just give this a thought.

1386
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you how to spend your money, but

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Speaker 2: give it a thought. Variety has launched a winter repeal

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01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 2: and because there are people in this country who do

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01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 2: not have as much as the rest of us, and

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01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 2: you know, and the ones that I care about more

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01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 2: deeply than anybody of the kids because it's not their

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01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 2: fault and you know how their parents choose to spend

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01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 2: the money and stuff like that. Anyway, that launching a

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01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 2: winter appeal to try and buy some blankets and so

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01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 2: on and bet nice betting to keep the kids warmed

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Speaker 2: through the winter. So just go have a look if

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Speaker 2: you're into that, because that is something that I would recommend.

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Speaker 2: Four away from six now was you know I like

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Speaker 2: a cyclist story, so I and I like a court story.

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Speaker 2: So I had a happy intersection today when I was

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Speaker 2: reading about an exciting day in court in Nelson this week,

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01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 2: Quite an exciting day. A chap was appearing because he

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01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 2: was charged with failing to stop to ascertain injury. What

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01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 2: had happened was he was driving and his car connected

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01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 2: with a cyclist. Now why I say connected with the

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01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 2: cyclist is because he says he didn't hit the cyclist.

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01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 2: He said the cyclist was cycling along and wanted to turn,

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01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 2: and they stuck it stuck out their arm and it

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01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 2: just clipped, just clipped his car. And this because it

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Speaker 2: clipped the car, the cyclist fell over and sustained a

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01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 2: broken hand in a concussion and was lying bleeding on

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Speaker 2: the ground. And this chap the driver stopped briefly and

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Speaker 2: it was like, nah, be fine, drove off, just left

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01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 2: the cyclist lying there. Anyway, So he's charged with not

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01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 2: stopping to ascertain whether the bloke needs help or not.

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Speaker 2: He goes to court, not happy in court this week,

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01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 2: told the court the cyclist was reckless for having nicked

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Speaker 2: the end of my wing mirror. Said it's not like

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Speaker 2: I physically hit him. Said if he could ride a

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Speaker 2: bike properly, this wouldn't be a problem. Then asked the

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Speaker 2: court if they could also prosecute the cyclist just like him.

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Speaker 2: Then tossed a bundle of papers that he was holding,

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Speaker 2: and that stormed out of court. And this is not

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01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 2: even the end of it. He'd already sacked his lawyer

1425
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 2: because he said he wanted to represent himself. That went well,

1426
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 2: didn't it nex time? Keep the lawyer? Anyway, got one

1427
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 2: hundred hours of community, community work and was disqualified from

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Speaker 2: driving for a year. So judge didn't buy it, did he.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about apartments in Auckland next, and why we've

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01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 2: got such a shortage. News Talks ab.

1431
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: Keeping track of where the money is flowing. The Business

1432
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: Hour with Heather Duti, Clan and Players, Insurance and Investments,

1433
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 1: Grow your Wealth, Protect Your Future.

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01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 14: News Talks at b.

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Speaker 2: Evening. Coming up to the next hour. Apparently everyone is

1436
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 2: going on holiday to Japan. We're going to find out why.

1437
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 2: I Shortly we'll wrap the week that was in politics

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Speaker 2: and also go to the UK with Cavin Gray. Seven

1439
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 2: past six. Now it looks like we've got an apartment

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01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 2: crunch coming to Auckland. New figures show we've only got

1441
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 2: fifty four developments in the pipeline for the city. That's

1442
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 2: a far cry from the peak four years ago of

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01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty three apartment projects. Tamba Carlton is

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Speaker 2: the director of Research at CBRE New Zealand.

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01:06:59,520 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 3: II.

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Speaker 2: Tamba, Hi, how are you? I'm very well, thank you.

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Speaker 2: So this is just basically the downturn and construction taking hold,

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01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 2: isn't it.

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01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 24: Yeah, it's just a manifestation of how difficult the housing

1450
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 24: market has had things over the past few years, and

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01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 24: apartment developers and no exception, they've just had a really

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01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 24: tough time.

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01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 2: Have we had a bunch of projects also abandoned though,

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01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 2: because I see we've dropped fifteen off the list that

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01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 2: we had.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, that's right. So that decline in the size of

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01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 24: the pipeline, that's largely due to projects hitting completion and

1458
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 24: then becoming part of stock rather than part of the pipeline.

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01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 24: So those projects that are hitting completion, they're not being

1460
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 24: replaced by new launchers. And abandonments have always been a

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01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 24: feature of the market. This is a thing with apartment development.

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01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 24: It's really risky and usually about a fifth of projects

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Speaker 24: don't proceed to completion.

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Speaker 8: Though.

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Speaker 24: You know, apartment developers will take a punt and they'll

1466
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 24: put a project on the market and it might not

1467
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 24: get enough pre sales or it might not sell at

1468
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 24: a level where they can proceed, so it just gets abandoned.

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Speaker 2: So do we actually have demand for a partments in.

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Speaker 24: Auckland, Yeah, I would say so. So our symposium showed

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01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 24: the proportion of apartments as a proportion of the total

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Speaker 24: housing stock for Auckland and then other global markets So

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01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 24: in Australia sixteen percent of housing as apartments. In the

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Speaker 24: UK and US it's in the low twenties, and in

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01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,679
Speaker 24: Auckland it is less than eight. So it's not because

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01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 24: New Zealanders just don't want apartments, it's because water is

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01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 24: available in the market isn't suiting their needs within their

1478
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 24: financial constraints. Developers, Yeah, well, they need enough space, they

1479
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 24: need things that suit their lifestyle, such as storage and

1480
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 24: car parking. For quite a few they needed in locations

1481
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 24: where it's you're able to access service and ammenity and

1482
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 24: be close to the things that you need to live

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01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 24: the life that you want to live. So what is

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01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 24: working in this really difficult market is apartments. That's the

1485
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 24: downside of demographic So with those you know downsize the

1486
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 24: owner occupies looking for a lock up and leave low

1487
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 24: maintenance type property and probably going to sell the family

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01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 24: home to do so.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that we will get more apartments coming

1490
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 2: on stream with those CRL changes, the ones where they'll

1491
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 2: have you know, fifteen story buildings and stuff near the

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01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 2: CRL train stations. Is that going to solve a bit

1493
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 2: of a problem here.

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01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 24: Well, the CRL is going to increase the frequency and

1495
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 24: reliability of the public transport with the train. So that's

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01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 24: going to make property development in those locations that are

1497
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:32,879
Speaker 24: close to the stations more attractive because it will improve

1498
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 24: connectivity for the buyers from a transport per sector. But

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01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 24: with that announcement that you can do a minimum of

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01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 24: fifteen stories or a ten to fifteen stories, it's just

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01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 24: a certain number of stations, isn't it. It's only five

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01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 24: or so on the Central West Line. There's many other

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01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 24: stations that are going to benefit from the CRL, so

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01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 24: really they should also be upsigned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fair point. Hey, thank you, Tamba appreciated Tampa Carlton,

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Speaker 2: director of Research at a CB New Zealand. Heather also,

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Speaker 2: food Stuffs has had supply as suppliers expo for some

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Speaker 2: of the smaller suppliers into New World Victoria Park to

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Speaker 2: try to introduce them to other operators in the food

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Speaker 2: Stuff's group that they might not yet supply into. That's

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Speaker 2: actually I thought about it over the news. I thought, actually,

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Speaker 2: it feels to me like food Stuffs. I stand to

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Speaker 2: be corrected. I don't know a lot of what's going

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Speaker 2: on here, but it feels like food Stuffs North Island

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Speaker 2: is trying to do the right thing. They're trying to

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Speaker 2: get the suppliers a little bit more FaceTime with other

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Speaker 2: stores so they don't lose their business altogether now that

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Speaker 2: this one's burnt down. They're trying to get the staff

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Speaker 2: into other stores in the distribution center. And regardless, despite

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Speaker 2: all of that, the union's having a crack at them.

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01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 2: If you know, I'm happy to be proven wrong. But

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Speaker 2: if all that's happening here is simply that they have

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Speaker 2: to make people redundant because the store burnt down, and

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01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 2: they've tried their best to do their best here, then

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01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 2: the Union, I don't know, may want to be realistic

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01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 2: about the situation. Now we've spoken about choppers and the

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01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 2: movers on the movers on to ban the private choppers

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Speaker 2: and the residential areas in Auckland. Mike Lee, the counselor

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01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 2: who hates the choppers, has started the paperwork to try

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01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 2: to ban them. He sent an email he's written to

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Speaker 2: Phil Wilson. Phil Wilson as the Auckland Council Chief executive,

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01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 2: and he said to Phil phelp, I am going to

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01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 2: raise motion two notices of motion when we have the

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Speaker 2: Policy and Planning Committee meeting on July twenty four Notice

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Speaker 2: of Motion number one, which would be to ask Council

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Speaker 2: staff to start working to make private hallipads a prohibited

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01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 2: activity in residential areas under the Unitary Plan number two

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01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 2: a prohibited activity in residential areas on White Hecke and

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Speaker 2: Greater Barrier Islands under the Hodarky Gulf's Islands section of

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Speaker 2: the District Plan. So happy days for everybody who's already

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01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 2: got the halipad. I don't know if Mike's going to

1542
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 2: take your halipad off you, but he's going to stop

1543
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 2: the hallipads for everybody else. He's doing it just.

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01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 9: For a bit.

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01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 2: When mud start little stones in your face washing everywhere,

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Speaker 2: I'll be fine. Thirteen past six.

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Speaker 1: It's the head Duper See Allan Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on my Heart Radio empowered by news dog Zebbi Oh.

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Speaker 2: I've got an unexpected twist for you, news news hot

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Speaker 2: off the press. The German has just told me how

1551
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Speaker 2: did you? How did you get into it? Was it

1552
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 2: like exciting news, exciting news. She's had exciting news that

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01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 2: Australians deliberate on a Saturday as well Saturday, and I

1554
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 2: was like, what a Sunday Saturday Oh no, that's the

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Speaker 2: German accent. Okay. So anyway, the relevance of this to

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Speaker 2: you is that the mushroom chef jury for them, the

1557
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 2: end of the week is not today. The end of

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Speaker 2: the week is tomorrow because tomorrow's Saturday and they still

1559
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 2: have to deliberate through a Saturday. So we might yet

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01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 2: get a verdict over the weekend. We might get one

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Speaker 2: tomorrow anyway, stand by for that. That is thank you, Laura.

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Speaker 2: That is definitely breaking. I don't know why we didn't

1563
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Speaker 2: do breaking news for that. Frankly, sixteen pass six. Now

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Speaker 2: let's wrap the political week. It was with Jason wolfs

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Speaker 2: our News Talks. He'd be political editor. Welcome back, Jason, Oh,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much. Do you think it's a smart

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Speaker 2: move for the government to roll out all of these

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Speaker 2: law and order announcements day after day rather than doing

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Speaker 2: them all in one lump.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I do. Actually, I know you've got to look

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Speaker 11: at the timing behind why they've done this as well.

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Speaker 11: It is probably the quietest recess week in all of

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Speaker 11: Parliament this year apart from Christmas. It's the winter school

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Speaker 11: holiday break. There's another recess week next week as well,

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01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 11: so it means that they've almost got open season on coverage, right,

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Speaker 11: You've still got the press gallery down here. We still

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01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 11: need to report on stories. So having a rolling mall

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Speaker 11: of these law and order announcements is I think it

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Speaker 11: was probably quite a smart political move, and the government

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Speaker 11: tends to do this. They have a theme for the week.

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Speaker 11: It was law and Order week this week. Other weeks

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Speaker 11: it's been sort of the economy week, or or the

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01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 11: week before. It's been various different things. So having it

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Speaker 11: on this week like this and having it play out

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01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:55,839
Speaker 11: as it did, there is a risk that the public

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01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 11: does get a little bit bored of it. But all

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Speaker 11: of the announcements were quite retail in a way. They

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Speaker 11: were quite quantifiable and understandable, and it sure helped that

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Speaker 11: the Greens kicked off about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, see, it did help, didn't it. And this was

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Speaker 2: really the first time that I realized how much trouble

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Speaker 2: Labor is on law and order because of the kind

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Speaker 2: of stuff that timoth Paul saying, right.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and I think that. I mean, honestly, I watched

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Speaker 11: the video and my first thought was the Greens should

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01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 11: not be talking about shoplifting. I think that's an area

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01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 11: that they should be staying away from. But I do

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Speaker 11: think that probably Tamotha she might have forgotten about it

1599
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 11: and just kind of shot from the hep and decided

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Speaker 11: to make this video and later was like, oh geez,

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Speaker 11: maybe shouldn't have done that. But it's going to be

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01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 11: quite hard for Labor And we keep coming back to this,

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01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 11: the fact that at some point the Labor Party is

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01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:39,839
Speaker 11: going to have to get off side with the Greens

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01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 11: and especially Tea Party. Marty by having to rule out

1606
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 11: some of these things that they're saying. Closer to election

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Speaker 11: will get a better sense of it. But it did, Yes,

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Speaker 11: just not a great look.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so privatizations read its head again. But it's not

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01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,520
Speaker 2: going to be the Enter Island, is it.

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Speaker 11: It doesn't look like it. I mean, Winston Peters was

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Speaker 11: never going to allow this control or the publicly controlled

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01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 11: fairies to be given up into the private sector. It's

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Speaker 11: something that David Seymour had mused about at one point,

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01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 11: and you'd think that if any government would be thinking

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01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 11: about it, it might be this one. But then you've

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01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 11: got Winston the handbreak Peters that would decide to Kaibosch

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Speaker 11: that idea anywhere along the way and to be honest,

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Speaker 11: I think that it didn't even really register as something

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Speaker 11: that the government was thinking of because Winston was there.

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Speaker 2: What about the privatization of land Corp? Though, that is

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01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 2: absolutely going to happen, isn't it.

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Speaker 12: So?

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01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 11: Nikola Willis has been talking about for some time that

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01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 11: there are some public assets that they're looking to potentially

1626
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 11: see how well they're actually serving the public. When you

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Speaker 11: look at how much the CEO is making compared to

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Speaker 11: how much profit the thing is bringing in, you have

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Speaker 11: to start asking some questions. And I think this taxpayers

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01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 11: might be asking questions before that as to why do

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Speaker 11: we even own a company like landgre.

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Speaker 2: I know that does so badly as well. Hey, so

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Speaker 2: do you have any thoughts on Rachel Reeves having a

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Speaker 2: bit of a boho in parliament in the UK?

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Speaker 11: Listen? I was listening to your editorial earlier and you

1636
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 11: were talking about how you know, if she cries in public,

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01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:07,680
Speaker 11: you can't really sack her. I don't know. I think

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01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 11: that that might that might be a little bit too

1639
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Speaker 11: conspiracy for me. It does sound like there's something.

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Speaker 2: Liberatly, No, it didn't. She didn't do it deliberately to

1641
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Speaker 2: avoid sacking. That was a completely raw emotion.

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Speaker 11: Just think so there was maybe a happy coincidence. Maybe

1643
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 11: welly not happy going I.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what, Jason, she one hundred percent was going

1645
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 2: to Well, I cannot say this with certainty. It sounded

1646
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 2: a hell of a lot like she was going to

1647
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 2: get the sack. Potentially he was leaving the door open

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01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:33,719
Speaker 2: for her to get the sack, right, that's what sparked

1649
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 2: the tears. But then after the tears and after everybody

1650
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 2: felt sorry for her, he couldn't possibly sack her. Now

1651
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 2: he's back to her for the remainder of this term

1652
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 2: and next term. So next time you're in trouble with

1653
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 2: the boss, Jason, cry in public.

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01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 11: I do that anyway, and it hasn't got to be anywhere,

1655
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Speaker 11: has it not. You can see me in the back

1656
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Speaker 11: of the press conferences that I'm always I've always got

1657
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 11: a tear in my eye.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was just because you were enjoying it. Jason,

1659
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,719
Speaker 2: Thanks very much, appreciate it. Jason Wall's News Talk ZB

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Speaker 2: political editor. Yeah, these are the things that happen in parliament. Actually,

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Speaker 2: by the way, I haven't discussed this with you. Peter Dunn,

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01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 2: whose opinion I rate has climbed into Tanya Unkovich for

1663
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 2: quitting parliament last week. He's written a column about it.

1664
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 2: He said, let me just quote your little bit, he said,

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Speaker 2: being a member. She's the one from New Zealand. I

1666
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 2: know you don't know who she is. She's the one

1667
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 2: from New Zealand first who quit. I know you didn't

1668
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 2: ever know that that happened. It had happened. He says,

1669
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 2: being a member of Parliament is not just another job.

1670
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 2: Members of Parliament are elected for a three year term

1671
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 2: which they are reasonably expected to complete before they decide

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01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,799
Speaker 2: they want to do something else. Parliament is the highest

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01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 2: institution in the country and should command its own respect.

1674
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 2: Serving as a member of Parliament as both an honor

1675
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 2: and a privilege. It should not be treated as just

1676
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 2: another entry on a CV. Good from you, Peter. He

1677
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 2: then blames MMP for MP's treating Parliament like some sort

1678
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 2: of a little like you could just dip in and

1679
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 2: out for a few months and see how it goes.

1680
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 2: Says perhaps, however, a perhaps unintended consequence of the quick

1681
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 2: exit facility for list MPs has been a cheapening of

1682
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 2: the dignity of Parliament as an institution. For some list.

1683
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 2: It has become a case of too easy to join,

1684
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 2: even easier to leave, which detracts from the principle that

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01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 2: MPs should be elected by the people, not appointed by

1686
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 2: the parties. That in turn reduces the level of respect

1687
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 2: for Parliament. And basically what he says is everybody should

1688
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:14,600
Speaker 2: have to fight for their seat right. It shouldn't just

1689
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 2: be that you know, you know somebody who knows Winston,

1690
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 2: so you get on the list or however I don't know.

1691
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 2: I'd hate for Winston to now come at me for

1692
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 2: saying that, so I immediately withdraw and apologize. But it should

1693
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 2: be harder to get into Parliament than just being on

1694
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 2: the list, you know what I mean. You should fight

1695
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 2: for it. Therefore you should appreciate the effort that's gone

1696
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:35,799
Speaker 2: into it, and therefore you will stick around. Unlike Tanya

1697
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 2: who just was like, Nah, don't actually like it, bye,

1698
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 2: and we're not What are we about? Halfway through six.

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Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the Business Hour

1700
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 1: with Heather duplic Ellen and mass insurance and investments, grow

1701
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 1: your wealth, protect your future.

1702
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 3: These talks env.

1703
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 2: Here. The Tanya was the only MP that came and

1704
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 2: met with the vaccine, not the media. Actually, former MP,

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01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 2: former MP six twenty five. Hey, if you've been like

1706
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 2: this is a bit weird and a bit fringe, but

1707
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 2: have you been following Japan's Bubba Vunga, because something weird

1708
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 2: has happened. She predicted that there would be a natural

1709
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 2: disaster tomorrow, as in five July. She predicted five July

1710
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 2: and Japan it happened yesterday. It was a five point

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01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 2: five earthquake magnitude earthquake. It was I mean five point

1712
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 2: five in Japan is not a big deal at all.

1713
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 2: That happens all the time. You know, as somebody said,

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01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 2: predicting predicting an earthquake in Japan is like predicting that

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01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 2: you're going to put a pair of pants on today.

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01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 2: You know, like this just happens. But it's fascinating because

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Speaker 2: this particular woman predicted for Kashima. She writes, what do

1718
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 2: you call them manga? Do you call them unga munga?

1719
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 2: This is and out needed that from ants manga. These

1720
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 2: are Japanese graphic comic things, and she predicted in them

1721
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 2: that for Kashima would happen. And then it did happen,

1722
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 2: and she predicted it a whole bunch of other stuff.

1723
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 2: So people freaked out when she predicted that the fifth

1724
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 2: of July would be when this massive event would happen.

1725
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 2: It's a whole bunch of tourists basically decided not to

1726
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 2: go to Japan. There's a massive drop off on the

1727
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:04,680
Speaker 2: tourist numbers because of it. She got it wrong by

1728
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 2: day so you can go now. But anyway, lots of

1729
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 2: people are going to Japan, and we're going to check

1730
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 2: in with Wendy Wood Tours in about twelve fifteen minutes time.

1731
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:14,679
Speaker 2: Just find out what on earth's going on. Why everybody

1732
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 2: loves Japan at the moment. Six twenty six. Now I've

1733
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 2: got a little bit of entertainment news for you, k

1734
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 2: This is to help you through the school holidays, because

1735
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,560
Speaker 2: we're halfway through, so there's light at the end of

1736
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 2: the tunnel. But if you need to keep the kids

1737
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 2: quiet for a couple of hours, we've got some tips

1738
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 2: for you. Take them to the good old movie theater,

1739
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 2: of course. And this week you've got the new animated

1740
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 2: Smurfs movie.

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01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 14: Hello, everyone, I have big news.

1742
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:36,799
Speaker 2: I've foul Smurf Village.

1743
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 14: I'm one step closer.

1744
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 18: To totally more dominance, we'll blame.

1745
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 2: Some people are surprised the Smurfs have lasted as long

1746
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 2: as a franchise, but it's because they're doing cool things

1747
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 2: like getting Rihanna and to be the new Smurf fet

1748
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 2: and she's got a song to go along with it

1749
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. If you want to see something

1750
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 2: a bit more like raw dinosaurs, actually this is a

1751
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 2: fantastic idea. I might take three year old to it.

1752
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 2: He loves dinosaurs. The new Jurassic Will movie is also out.

1753
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 20: Because Ireland was the research facility, but the original to

1754
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 20: aspic poor.

1755
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 11: We need DNA from the three biggest dinosaurs.

1756
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 2: Do we have to give a sound call from an egg?

1757
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 2: Actually maybe it's too scary. Anyway, you haven't got Chris

1758
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 2: Pratt and brew Bryce Dallas Howard anymore. You've got Scarlett

1759
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 2: Johansson and she's in the lead picture, in the leads

1760
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 2: the picture, and she's also got Jonathan Bailey by her side.

1761
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:26,639
Speaker 2: Now at this point you're going, who's Jonathan Bailey. Jonathan

1762
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 2: Bailey is Lord Anthony Bridgeton in Bridgeton's He's the hot

1763
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:34,600
Speaker 2: eldest brother. Your kids can enjoy the dinos and the

1764
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 2: candy and then mum and dad can have a bit

1765
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 2: of eye candy, if you know what I'm saying. It's

1766
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 2: a lot of other great track pics as well. You've

1767
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 2: got the Formula one movie with Brad Pitt. You've got

1768
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 2: the new Pixar set of film set in space. You've

1769
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 2: got the live action Liloh and Stitch that's still hanging

1770
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 2: on if you haven't seen it yet. We've covered the

1771
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 2: struggling cinema business a few times on the show. So

1772
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 2: go out and support your local picture house with the

1773
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 2: kids at the school holidays if you'd need a piece

1774
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 2: of quiet. You could even sleep if you have to.

1775
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 2: By the way, in the theater obviously, did you realize

1776
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 2: Jonathan Bailey from Bridgeton can sing, he can dance, he

1777
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 2: can act, and he can play the claronet so well

1778
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 2: that he actually played a solo on the clarinet for

1779
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 2: the soundtrack for Jurassic I mean, how proud are his parents?

1780
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 7: Headline's next if it's to do with money, it matters

1781
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 7: to you.

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01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather dupers Ellen and Mass Insurance

1783
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:31,719
Speaker 1: and investments, Grow your wealth, Protect your future news talks

1784
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 1: that'd be he said.

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01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 8: Hi, nice to meet your too, Ny.

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01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 2: Maybe, yes, I have been following the prediction. Oh it's

1787
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 2: not just me, thank god. Otherwise I was worried I

1788
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 2: was going to start looking at the looney hither the

1789
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 2: skytower lighting is something else tonight? What's the reason? Please

1790
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 2: tell me? It's not just for American independence? All that

1791
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 2: makes me think that they've changed the colors but to

1792
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 2: something like red, white and blue. But if it's just orange,

1793
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,640
Speaker 2: which it has been last night and I feel like

1794
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 2: for a few nights now, if it's orange, then that's

1795
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 2: about domestic violence, because they're supporting the charity Shine and

1796
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 2: hoping to draw attention to it twenty four away from seven. Now,

1797
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 2: if you feel like everyone around you was booking a

1798
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 2: holiday to Japan, it is true they are. Tourist numbers

1799
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 2: in Japan have jumped forty seven percent year on year,

1800
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 2: and the country is aiming to almost double the number

1801
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,719
Speaker 2: of tourists to sixty million a year by twenty thirty.

1802
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 2: Our Paul Diamond is the managing director of Wendy Woo

1803
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 2: Tourism with US. Now have Paul, Hey, Heather, are you

1804
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,919
Speaker 2: seeing it's lovely to have you. Are you seeing this increase?

1805
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 25: Yeah, we're actually seeing greater growth than that from New Zealand.

1806
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,440
Speaker 25: We were up eighty six percent on last year's visitors

1807
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 25: and that's on one hundred percent growth on pre COVID

1808
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 25: levels as well.

1809
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 2: Wow, what's going on?

1810
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 25: Well, I think people have just discovered it and there's

1811
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 25: really Once you come home from Japan, you tell your

1812
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 25: friends and your friends just want to go as well.

1813
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 25: It's a stunning destination and it's just a stone throw away.

1814
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 2: From us, is it.

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01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 25: You've been, Yeah, I've I've actually been there twice this

1816
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 25: year and I'm back there in November as well.

1817
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it? I'll tell you what I enjoyed

1818
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 2: about it was I enjoyed that you got contrast, right,

1819
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 2: So you get the city stuff and it's really cool,

1820
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 2: and then you get and we're accustomed to the food

1821
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 2: because everybody loves a bit of sushi and stuff like that,

1822
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 2: and then you get the snow stuff if you're into

1823
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 2: that stuff. But also they it just feels a little

1824
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 2: bit more developed than other Asian countries.

1825
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1826
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 25: Absolutely, it's very futuristic in some parts. But what I

1827
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:29,759
Speaker 25: love is that, as you'd know, they keep their tradition

1828
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 25: as well. You're not going there to site see the tradition,

1829
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 25: they still embody it. They'll still go to the temple

1830
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 25: in the morning and offer the gods some money to

1831
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 25: get good luck for the day and stuff. So you're

1832
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 25: walking around temples that have been used for the last

1833
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 25: four hundred days as well, and there's just really unique

1834
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 25: things to go and see. I mean you can't see

1835
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 25: snow monkeys anywhere else in the world.

1836
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they also love a drink like we do.

1837
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 25: They do in fact, it brings them closer to the gods.

1838
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 25: Sake brings you closer to the gods. So it's it's

1839
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 25: every temple. So yeah, great, know that.

1840
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Now. The trouble, of course, is

1841
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 2: when something like this takes off, you can almost have

1842
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 2: too much of a good thing, right, So is it

1843
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 2: possible to get go there and go whoa, there's just

1844
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 2: way too many tourists here.

1845
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1846
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 25: Look, I think they are struggling with over tourism in

1847
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 25: some parts. But what we always say is, you know,

1848
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 25: jump on an organized group or a cruise or somewhere

1849
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,680
Speaker 25: that's actually pre booked you to get around, and then

1850
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 25: you're not going to turn up to places where suddenly

1851
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 25: twenty thousand people turn up to get a view of

1852
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 25: Mount Footi. You've actually got people that know where to

1853
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 25: go and take you without being stuck in the crowds

1854
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 25: all the time.

1855
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get the local help with it. What about

1856
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 2: the medical insurance idea? You see? I see that they're

1857
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 2: pitching that everybody who comes has to have medical insurance.

1858
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 2: Good idea.

1859
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 25: Yeah, Look, I think most New Zealanders travel with travel insurance,

1860
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 25: which kind of covers that because you've got your medical

1861
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 25: insurance tied up in there. It does make sense they

1862
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 25: have a great health network over them. But as we

1863
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 25: know here, it can be a real burden onto the

1864
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 25: public system. If you suddenly get sixty million people coming

1865
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 25: as tourists, there's going to be a proportion of those

1866
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,799
Speaker 25: that get sick. So there needs to be some support

1867
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 25: there for it to happen.

1868
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 2: Do you think that they are struggling with just given

1869
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 2: that they've done a bunch of stuff lately, Right, so

1870
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 2: they had now a fee at Mount Fuji. If you

1871
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 2: want to climb a little bit parts of Kyoto or

1872
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 2: off limits to travelers, you've got the medical insurance thing.

1873
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 2: Are they starting to themselves kind of resist a little bit?

1874
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 1: Look?

1875
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 25: I don't think. I think what they're trying to do

1876
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 25: is spread it out because the problem is that everyone

1877
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:39,799
Speaker 25: said about cherry blottom, so you get these huge groups

1878
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,600
Speaker 25: of people coming for that two week period where the

1879
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 25: cherry blossom is, whereas Japan's break all year round. So

1880
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 25: what the tourist Board's trying to do is get people

1881
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 25: to go to the autumn lee's periods, which is absolutely stunning,

1882
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 25: and that runs for three months rather than two weeks.

1883
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 25: So there's a lot of things they're doing just to

1884
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 25: try and spread people out. I mean, it's a nation

1885
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 25: of one hundred and thirty five million people living in

1886
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 25: the same area as New Zealand. They know how to

1887
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 25: crowd manage. It's just they're just trying to manage it better.

1888
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm asking for ants who's got a trip booked.

1889
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 2: If he has to go and see one thing, what

1890
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 2: should he see?

1891
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 25: Oh, if he had to see one thing, I think

1892
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 25: you've basically got to get there by bullet train because

1893
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 25: the bullet trains are amazing, and I would probably say

1894
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 25: one thing, are head up to mat Tomoto Castle. Love

1895
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 25: mat Tomoto Castle, the Black Castle, the Crow's Castle, so

1896
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:38,640
Speaker 25: great there any dress upposite summer I sold you.

1897
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,679
Speaker 2: Oh that sounds up the Allie answers loving this. Paul,

1898
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 2: thank you, I appreciate it. It's Paul Diamond. Managing director

1899
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 2: Wendy will tours Ants was writing that down. Don't you

1900
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 2: love it when you get some tips and the person

1901
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 2: is into it and loving and writing it down. I

1902
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 2: appreciate this is this is the diligence of the people

1903
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 2: that I work with. Nineteen away from seven Heather do

1904
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 2: for see Ellen? Do you remember I told you not

1905
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 2: a long time ago. Oh gosh, I want to say

1906
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 2: a week or two about those sunscreens that we have

1907
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 2: on the ships. It's Australian sunscreens, but we sell some

1908
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:09,719
Speaker 2: of them here and they're not meeting the SBF claims

1909
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:11,799
Speaker 2: like there way off with some of their SBF claims.

1910
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 2: And at the time when I told you, I was

1911
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 2: perplexed as to how it is that we continuously do this. Right,

1912
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 2: this happens every year. Somebody goes and tests the sunscreens.

1913
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:24,679
Speaker 2: Got nah, not thirty, only four, and yet it continues

1914
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 2: to happen. Well, there may be an explanation for this.

1915
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 2: The testing might be wonky. So there were sixteen sunscreens

1916
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 2: that weren't what they said that they were eight of them,

1917
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 2: which is half of them. Obviously eight of them had

1918
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 2: originally been tested by the same lab called Princeton Consumer Research,

1919
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 2: and Princeton Consumer Research was saying that the significant that

1920
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 2: the SPF was significantly higher than it actually was according

1921
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 2: to alternative testing, and there have been concerns about PCR.

1922
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 2: Princeton Consumer Research is testing and methodology, are testing, methodology

1923
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 2: and calculation. So it seems that that is fundamentally the problem.

1924
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 2: It's not that they're trying, at least as far as

1925
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 2: we know, it's not that they're trying to sell you

1926
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 2: sunscreen that's a lower SPF. It's that they genuinely think

1927
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 2: that it is higher. It's just that the testing is

1928
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 2: balls by the looks of things. Heather breaking news from

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Speaker 2: the Taxpayers Union. Local government New Zealand is planning nationwide

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Speaker 2: or campaign against rates capping. That's from John John, Thank you,

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Speaker 2: I did see this comments. This has just come in

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Speaker 2: from the Taxpayers Union. They've got some information that you

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Speaker 2: know that the Okay, I'll start at the very beginning.

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Speaker 2: There is an idea that's floating around at the moment

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Speaker 2: that what we need to do is we need to

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Speaker 2: cap the rates increases and say to local government you

1937
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Speaker 2: can only increase it by this much. And it seems

1938
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Speaker 2: to have have found a bit of a fan in

1939
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Speaker 2: Simon Watts, who is the minister responsible for this, and

1940
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Speaker 2: he's indicated that he's doing some work on it, so

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Speaker 2: could very well happen. Taxpayers Union has uncovered what they

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Speaker 2: are calling a previously secret plan from Local Government New

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Speaker 2: Zealand to mount a full scale public campaign against rates capping,

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Speaker 2: and they've attached the information. Now they have hyped it

1945
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Speaker 2: up somewhat, as the Taxpayers Union is what to do

1946
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Speaker 2: from they get excited about their politics, so they have

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Speaker 2: hyped it up a little bit. I mean basically what

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Speaker 2: it is is they've got together at Local Government New

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Speaker 2: Zealand and they've decided, how are we going to deal

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Speaker 2: with this. Let's deal with it through a public campaign.

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Speaker 2: Nothing the farious about this. This is just how politics works,

1952
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Speaker 2: so you know, it's totally fine. However, what I thought

1953
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Speaker 2: was quite interesting in this is that they are really

1954
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Speaker 2: worried at Local Government New Zealand. They say, if we

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Speaker 2: don't strengthen our advocacy, the government is likely to implement

1956
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Speaker 2: rates capping. The government is likely to introduce legislation next year. However,

1957
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 2: it is still politically possible to prevent rates capping local government.

1958
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Speaker 2: New Zealand successfully opposed a similar proposal in two thousand

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Speaker 2: and nine, and more recently South Australia has held it

1960
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Speaker 2: for rates cap through lobbying and strong, strong public campaign.

1961
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Speaker 2: Being louder publicly would be essential to argue that council

1962
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Speaker 2: is a better place than central government to make rates decisions.

1963
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Speaker 2: We must boost public trust and confidence in local government.

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Speaker 2: There's your problem. I think public trust and confidence in

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Speaker 2: local government is at such a low eb at the

1966
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Speaker 2: moment with you know nonsense that's going on behind closed doors.

1967
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Speaker 2: The Mayor of Auckland just delegating all his decision making

1968
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Speaker 2: on certain subjects to Ken, the mechanic from West Auckland,

1969
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 2: and completely unaware what Ken's up to. And Ken appears

1970
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 2: to be completely unaware what Ken's up to as well.

1971
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 2: You've got Tory Farno and Wellington who should still be

1972
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 2: a mayor for another few months, but she's she's she's

1973
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 2: completely distracted and fighting online campaigns against David Seymour. You've

1974
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 2: got all of the co governance. Nonsense that that has

1975
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 2: been gone on, like all this stuff like that just

1976
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Speaker 2: local government. New Zealand has lost our confidence, hasn't it.

1977
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Speaker 2: So I feel like if it was if it was

1978
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Speaker 2: central government versus local government on this, they ain't got

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Speaker 2: a snowballs chance. And hell, what do you think quarter

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Speaker 2: two croaching.

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Speaker 1: The numbers and getting the results? It's Heather Dutilessy Allen

1982
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Speaker 1: with the business hour and maths, insurance and investments, Grow

1983
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 1: your wealth, protect your future.

1984
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Speaker 14: These talks end me.

1985
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:53,600
Speaker 2: Heather Tael ants to be careful about the sashimi on Matsumoto.

1986
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 2: It's famous for being horse meat, says Deann.

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Speaker 16: I'm quite happy to say, as long as it's ethically

1988
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Speaker 16: sourced and everything, I would be quite happy to try horse.

1989
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Speaker 2: What about whale?

1990
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Speaker 16: Oh you know, may okay? Then whales too far? Sorry,

1991
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Speaker 16: I'm not doing that. Why because there aren't enough of them.

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Speaker 16: We can't kill them. So for morals, yeah, for morals, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 16: If theoretically there were like tons of whales in the

1994
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Speaker 16: ocean and we could find them, I'd be quite happy.

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Speaker 2: Back in the days. But back in the nineteen yeah.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, before every they ruined it for us by.

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Speaker 2: Getting rid of them.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: Absolutely, I've been round.

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Speaker 2: Down candles and perfumes and stuff.

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Speaker 16: And the corsets. I mean, you're not even wearing them anymore.

2002
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:28,559
Speaker 16: A waste of time.

2003
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Speaker 2: On't look at what we did to the world just

2004
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 2: for some some you know, slim waists and smelling.

2005
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Speaker 14: Good thing.

2006
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Speaker 16: We'd never do anything like that in them is No,

2007
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:36,559
Speaker 16: it's a good thing.

2008
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 2: We're really ethical now, thank you. As twelve. Don't ask

2009
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 2: me that question because I am divided on it. Actually,

2010
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:43,679
Speaker 2: I'm still puzzling that when I have been for years

2011
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 2: twelve away from seven. Gavn Gray UK corresponds with us. Now, Alogavin,

2012
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Speaker 2: so Rachel's safe now, we think so.

2013
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Speaker 20: Rachel Reeves the Chancellor, the money Minister, the economy minister

2014
01:32:55,800 --> 01:33:00,160
Speaker 20: here in the UK seeing on television in tears of

2015
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 20: tears pouring down her cheeks in Parliament while Sekir Starmer

2016
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 20: stood in front of her at the dispatch box and

2017
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:10,800
Speaker 20: nobody comforting her. Very very odd scenes. And not just

2018
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 20: was it odd, but also the market spooked. They suddenly thought, hmm,

2019
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 20: we think she's going to get sacked. That'll mean whoever

2020
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Speaker 20: replaces her probably opens the floodgates to more unfunded spending

2021
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 20: and that could be a problem. Now Rachel Reeves has

2022
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:28,799
Speaker 20: since been back in public life. There were no tears.

2023
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 20: She was asked about it. Everybody's been asking about it.

2024
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 20: Claims that it could have been a row with the boss,

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Speaker 20: the Prime minister, could have been a row with the

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Speaker 20: deputy prime minister, could have been a row with all

2027
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Speaker 20: sorts of people. We're told it was a personal matter

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Speaker 20: and that was all that was to be said. Very

2029
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Speaker 20: very odd.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of the BBC telling a whole

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Speaker 2: bunch of stuff that they need to step back from

2032
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Speaker 2: their jobs because the Bob Villain thing.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, it's an interesting one. So at glaston Reset, a

2034
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Speaker 20: punk rap group called Bob Villain suddenly began leading chants

2035
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Speaker 20: of death, death to the IDF, the Israeli Defense Force

2036
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Speaker 20: of course, so they were being broadcast live, but also

2037
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Speaker 20: they were available for four hours on the Internet the

2038
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:18,760
Speaker 20: BBC's streaming service, until that was taken down. Now because

2039
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Speaker 20: it was live. Of course, these things are always very

2040
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:26,759
Speaker 20: very difficult. But the BBC roundly condemned for not muting

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Speaker 20: the broadcast or taking them off immediately, and lots of

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01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:34,599
Speaker 20: people have condemned them for that and now, indeed, a number,

2043
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:36,800
Speaker 20: as you said, number of senior staff have been told

2044
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Speaker 20: quote to step back from their day to day duties

2045
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 20: on music and live events. That does not mean they've

2046
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 20: been sacked. It simply means, I suppose they've received a

2047
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 20: rap on the knuckles. While this investigation is underway, the

2048
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 20: BBC has admitted it was wrong not to mute the

2049
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:54,479
Speaker 20: groups that were doing this or the group that was

2050
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 20: doing this, But nevertheless, the corporation's chair Samshah said that

2051
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 20: this was unquestionably an error of judgment not to pull

2052
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 20: the live feed. At the time, the chief Rabbi in

2053
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 20: the UK said it was absolutely terrible and really weighing

2054
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 20: in with other politicians to the BBC. So I suppose

2055
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 20: they're hoping this might be an end of a matter

2056
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:19,759
Speaker 20: at the BBC. I'm not so sure, Kevin.

2057
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 2: Why should they have pulled the plug? Is what Bob

2058
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 2: Villain said? Unlawful?

2059
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 20: Well, many people are saying it's an incitement to hatred,

2060
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 20: that it wasn't the only comment made about Israeli or

2061
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 20: indeed about Jewish people, and so consequently, I guess because

2062
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 20: Bob Villain are black, if something similar had been said

2063
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 20: about black people, maybe that would have been a different

2064
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:46,720
Speaker 20: thing or a different religious sect if you'd said that.

2065
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:49,680
Speaker 20: And I just think, you know, this death death to

2066
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:52,720
Speaker 20: the Iva was something that I'll think a lot of

2067
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 20: people thought had overstepped the mark. And the police are

2068
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 20: actually investigating it.

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01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 2: Fascinating. Hey, Gvin, really appreciate you talking us through it.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you shortly again. It's Gavin Gray, UK correspondent.

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01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 2: Mm okay, update on the sky tower. No, the colors,

2072
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:10,599
Speaker 2: what are the colors? It mustn't be orange colors. Are

2073
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 2: something else. It's to celebrate Fudda Nui Harrikor arriving at

2074
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:18,800
Speaker 2: the Civic. It's a stunning projection that you won't want

2075
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 2: to miss. This crocheted fuddy Nui is filled with joy

2076
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 2: and connection and stands in Tarmakimikota and Auckland for the

2077
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 2: first time under the Matsaki stars. Oh I've heard about this?

2078
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No, they're they're knitting a they're knitting a

2079
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 2: meeting house some war Sevic squens. So it's in order

2080
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 2: to celebrate that. Eight away from seven.

2081
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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Tipsy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

2082
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by News Talk zeb.

2083
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 2: Right just to make you feel better about the world

2084
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:46,519
Speaker 2: that we live in. It is not just us in

2085
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:48,720
Speaker 2: New Zealand who find well. When I say us in

2086
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:50,600
Speaker 2: New Zealand, what I mean is Tory Faro and the

2087
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 2: Wellington City Council who find ways to spend extraordinary amounts

2088
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 2: of money on very basic things. It also happens in

2089
01:36:57,439 --> 01:36:59,759
Speaker 2: the UK. It turns out that the House of Lords

2090
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 2: and the UK has got a new front door. The

2091
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 2: front door has been installed and it's cost nearly ten

2092
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:10,720
Speaker 2: million dollars. Was that million? Ten million pounds? Apologies? What's

2093
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 2: that twenty million dollars? Roughly right? I'm just doing a

2094
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 2: very basic calculation. How in God's name is a door

2095
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:21,360
Speaker 2: that expensive? And yet they have managed to do this.

2096
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to explain this to you.

2097
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 2: But the door was supposed to only cost six point

2098
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 2: one million pounds, so only about twelve million dollars and

2099
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 2: then it blew out. How you say hello and yes

2100
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 2: to adore? That's twelve million dollars in the first place.

2101
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. And if you're saying yes to a

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01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 2: doll that expensive, you deserve that it blew out. But

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01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 2: what's even better about it is the door doesn't work,

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01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:44,559
Speaker 2: and so as a result, there is a security officer

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01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 2: who has to permanently be stationed at the door to

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01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 2: press a button to open it, and that is costing

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01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars every week. So the door's expensive, and

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01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:55,760
Speaker 2: then the bloke who stands there pressing the button is

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01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 2: also expensive. So yeah, I mean, you know, it's world round,

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01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 2: isn't it. It's not just it's not just Tory, it's

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Speaker 2: that as well. Ants.

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Speaker 16: I was going to say here, they're like, if it's

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Speaker 16: twenty million dollars for the door, I should not need

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01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:08,479
Speaker 16: to touch that thing to get through it. It should

2115
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:10,640
Speaker 16: it should know that I'm coming and open.

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01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 2: And say do you welcome, and.

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Speaker 16: And then play my professional wrestling style entrance music, your.

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01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 2: Entrance music, and talk to you in the tone, the

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Speaker 2: volume and the language that you want.

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Speaker 16: Absolutely yeah, minimum.

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01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 2: Ants needs to go to the fish market early.

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Speaker 16: Oh okay, good to know. Thank you. That's good.

2123
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 2: Lord. You have gone and listen to Bone Dougs, haven't you.

2124
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 16: Well Yeah, I was going to say, interesting. The Crossroads,

2125
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 16: the song from nineteen ninety six, is their only song

2126
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:35,719
Speaker 16: to get to number one on the New Zealand chart. Thankers,

2127
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 16: shrugish Bone got close. It got to number two as well.

2128
01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 16: And yeah, there's only one swear word in it and

2129
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 16: it's at the very start, so we're already past that.

2130
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 16: So that's good. What's the song called again, the CROSSROADSKA?

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Speaker 16: And yeah, obviously because as we mentioned yesterday, they are

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Speaker 16: getting a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame alongside

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Speaker 16: all of the other people.

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Speaker 2: Did you enjoy doing your research?

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Speaker 16: They're not for me, Heather. Look, they're amazing. They the

2136
01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 16: flow is insane, like the skill on displayers excellent. I'm

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Speaker 16: never gonna listen to.

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Speaker 2: The sin You're more of a Miley Cyrus guy.

2139
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Speaker 16: Yeah, actually probably yes, yeah, sorry.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy your weekend. Go the All Blacks, go the Warriors,

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