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Speaker 1: What a good week for the police. A headhunters blowing

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Speaker 1: up in Auckland, fifteen million dollars worth of assets handed over,

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Speaker 1: including their headquarters. Then yesterday every single member of the

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Speaker 1: Common Cherio has got rounded up in christ Church. The

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Speaker 1: Police Commissioner Andrew Costs is with us.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 1: I've got to feel good about this.

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Speaker 2: Oh. Look, absolutely, it's been an outstanding week and just

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Speaker 2: reflection of incredibly hard work by a huge number of

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Speaker 2: people in our and biscuit of area.

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Speaker 1: Particularly just for the record, the naysayers have been texting

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Speaker 1: me saying there are about three common Cheros in christ

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Speaker 1: Jurch and that's rounding up nobody. How many did you

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Speaker 1: actually get?

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Speaker 2: We executed twenty nine search warrants and we arrested eighteen

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Speaker 2: men aged between eighteen and fifty five, so a pretty.

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Speaker 1: Remarkable efat Why don't we hear more often the term

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Speaker 1: every single member has been arrested.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's our object, of course, when we're going after

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Speaker 2: an organized crime group. We're always limited by the need

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Speaker 2: to have evidence, of course, but in this case they

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Speaker 2: have done an outstanding investigation and I managed to get

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Speaker 2: evidence on all of those offenders. So that's pretty impressive

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Speaker 2: effort and just reflects the sophistication that we've developed in

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Speaker 2: our capability to investigate organized crime.

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Speaker 1: I don't know whether people are surprised or not. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm ni, but I was moderately surprised at the size

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Speaker 1: of what you got, guns, money, cars. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is big, big business, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And we have seen a real upping of the

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Speaker 2: Antibo organized crime groups here in the last five to

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Speaker 2: ten years. We have responded. We've invested a huge amount

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Speaker 2: into our capabilities in terms of organized crime, investigation, surveillance,

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Speaker 2: financial crime. You know, we know that going after the

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Speaker 2: assets is what hurts them the most, and that's what

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Speaker 2: will continue to do.

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Speaker 1: The pace of the legal process. Do you want to

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Speaker 1: make a comment because this seems to take to if

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Speaker 1: there's a weak link here, and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: get into criticizing judges, and you might do it, but

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Speaker 1: this takes to my eye far too long. Is the

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Speaker 1: legal process or problem?

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Speaker 2: Our investigators say that it's roughly a third to third

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Speaker 2: of third, So one third investigation, one third preparing the

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Speaker 2: case for court, in one third disclosure in relation to

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Speaker 2: the court process. That is a heavy burden. You know,

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Speaker 2: a lot of that is necessary for the interests of justice,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, it's a big overhead in something that does

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Speaker 2: slow us down in terms of our ability to get

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Speaker 2: onto the next job.

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Speaker 1: Is it possible to your eye that there's something we

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Speaker 1: can obviously do in this country to make that easier

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Speaker 1: or not.

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Speaker 2: There are different approaches taken in other countries that we

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Speaker 2: would respect in terms of things like criminal disclosure and

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Speaker 2: those processes. There needs to be a balance between serving

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Speaker 2: your interests of justice, which is of course of primary importance,

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Speaker 2: but also not getting so bogged down and all of

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Speaker 2: that that we are inefficient.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Well, I've got you the Ginny Anderson numbers.

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Speaker 1: Just just I think we put the record straight. But

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Speaker 1: beat beat numbers are up, aren't they up? Not down?

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Speaker 2: Yes, they are up certainly in a year on your comparison,

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Speaker 2: Beat numbers are up, and you know those numbers are

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Speaker 2: interesting for me. The most important testers are people seeing

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Speaker 2: and feeling a difference in terms of their perceptions of

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Speaker 2: safety through the presence of police, and I think we

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Speaker 2: are very clearly getting the message that people are appreciating

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Speaker 2: out the visibility we've got, particularly the most maintenters.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt about that. Andrew Cost

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Speaker 1: appreciated as always, Police Commissioner Andrew Cost.

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