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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from Newstalks b.

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Speaker 2: Your Blacks aren't going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: The ball Colla nipped ahead, reget it.

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Speaker 2: England thirty three All Blacks nineteen. All Black's assistant coach

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Speaker 2: Tamothy Ellison is with us. Tomody, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 2: What's your overall evaluation of the All Blacks performance today?

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Speaker 3: You probably didn't take opportunities in the first half. They

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Speaker 3: took beers, you know they and then started well after

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Speaker 3: the half.

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Speaker 2: What areas in particular are going to be most important

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Speaker 2: for you to review and address.

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Speaker 3: I think a couple of structural on the defensive side

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Speaker 3: of the ball, just off the line out there and

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Speaker 3: off the scrum. Probably a couple of individual pieces, but

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Speaker 3: it'll be the job of helping each other and being

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Speaker 3: clear on who's doing what pre prescome engagement before the

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Speaker 3: ball comes out of the line out.

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Speaker 2: Is the team implementing the game plan that you're asking

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Speaker 2: them to?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think when you when you see the boys

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Speaker 3: play with speed, you use their feet and I think

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Speaker 3: you saw, you know, when we created those opportunities on

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Speaker 3: the edges in the first half. I was really clear

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Speaker 3: with the spot the space was and so we had

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Speaker 3: more opportunities to get there as well. So you know,

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Speaker 3: I think we look really good in those moments.

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Speaker 2: What did you make of the yellow card to Cody Taylor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fair. You know, the rest are coming down

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Speaker 3: now on on cynical plan that was deemed cynical. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: if you're going to steal the ball, you're going to

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Speaker 3: steal it while they're still in the air, not once

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Speaker 3: it's at the ground.

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Speaker 2: Why is the twenty minute period after halftime such an

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Speaker 2: issue for you at the moment?

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Speaker 3: I think that you know, in the game context, you know,

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Speaker 3: the opposition teams have have come out and really fired

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Speaker 3: the first shot, So I think it's important that we're

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Speaker 3: really clear on what that looks like and that team's

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Speaker 3: really come out after half with that intent. At the

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Speaker 3: same time, I thought that they started with intent as well,

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Speaker 3: regardless of the score, their their collisions and their carry

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Speaker 3: and clean and the time they stolen the tackle. They

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Speaker 3: did a really good job there.

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Speaker 2: What's fatigue a factor at all today?

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Speaker 3: I think it's always the fact that it's something that

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Speaker 3: you have to manage and you and you do the best.

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Speaker 3: As I said in the part we've got Nick Gil here,

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Speaker 3: we're really lucky and he structures the week around load

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Speaker 3: of what the boys need. And obviously he's he's done

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Speaker 3: that for a long time, so there's always going to

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Speaker 3: be fatigued. Butcially just this end of the season for

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Speaker 3: teams that are coming towards the end. So it's just

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Speaker 3: just making sure that we're really clear with the comment

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Speaker 3: and and when someone's had enough, like in any equalision

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Speaker 3: support that you get the next guy on.

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Speaker 2: And what about the aerial game, Tamot, how much more

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Speaker 2: improvement do you perceive there is still required there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think in all the games, you know, like

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Speaker 3: the Spring Box Italy game earlier, the amount of you know,

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Speaker 3: clean catches that weren't taken. It's more the work after

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Speaker 3: the catch and the scraps on the ground that we're

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Speaker 3: seeing more and more. You know, It's it's a constant

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Speaker 3: work on for us for sure, but it's also constant

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Speaker 3: work on for for everyone now adapting to the rules,

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Speaker 3: not just in the air but on the ground also.

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Speaker 3: You see when when the board bobbles, who's first to

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Speaker 3: get that?

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Speaker 2: Have you seen improvements in general terms on this all

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Speaker 2: black side in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I definitely do you know different

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Speaker 3: different players coming in and executing, for sure, And.

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Speaker 2: If you're looking for areas where more improvement is still needed,

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Speaker 2: where would you be focusing?

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Speaker 3: But you always start with my area that you know

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Speaker 3: something I lead around the defense and I'm stealing time

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Speaker 3: in the techle. We did a good job against the

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Speaker 3: Scotts last week of slowing them down defending for long phases,

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Speaker 3: which you have to do at times, whereas tonight we

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Speaker 3: didn't probably steal as much time in a tackle and

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Speaker 3: they were able to play with more speed than we

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Speaker 3: would have liked.

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Speaker 2: So we're about to reach the midway point of the

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Speaker 2: World Cup cycle. How far from where you want to be?

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Speaker 2: Are you?

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Speaker 3: Oh? This this is definitely still a gift, and you

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Speaker 3: know we're always chasing and building towards where we want

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Speaker 3: to get to for sure. And then they're continuing to

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Speaker 3: adapt to the game. As you mentioned, the aerial game

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Speaker 3: is something and it's it's been massive the year across

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Speaker 3: all the international so that these individual areas and it's

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Speaker 3: a matter of continuing to develop the individuals for those roles.

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Speaker 2: And I know it's not your particular brief, but in

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Speaker 2: terms of attack, is there's still some work to do

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Speaker 2: around around sparking the backline more regularly rather than relying

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Speaker 2: on individual flashes of brilliance to score tries.

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Speaker 3: I think I think it's both. You know, we really

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Speaker 3: back our athletes in one on one situations. At the

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Speaker 3: same time, you're always trying to drive more cohesion and

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Speaker 3: more rhythm. So it's definitely both. We've got a great

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Speaker 3: individual athletes and we want them to fully express themselves.

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Speaker 3: So they said that there's a gap in all the areas,

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Speaker 3: and so they should be because of the standard that

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Speaker 3: we're chasing.

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Speaker 2: Is this a gutting loss for you?

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Speaker 3: It is definitely is yes. I mean you only have

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Speaker 3: to come into the changing room to see that and

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Speaker 3: see how much the group feels it. You know. The

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Speaker 3: important thing now is we've bounced back quick because you

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Speaker 3: know the losses, we've copped the shoe. We have had

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Speaker 3: a week off at the end of the RC before

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Speaker 3: going into a new team, so we'll have to bounce fast,

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 2: Tommody, Hey, thanks for taking our call. Appreciate it. That's

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Speaker 2: Tomothy Ellison, one of the assistant coaches of the All Blacks.

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