1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: So we have more detail on our insurance question. We 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: raised with the Defense Ministry yesterday the monument that we 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: had third party which will to some degree help cover 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: the clean up costs apparently, so not exactly replacement insurance. 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: So where are we at The Chief of maybe rahere, 6 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: Admiral Garren Golding is with us. Very good morning to you, yeah, 7 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: coome morning Mike. Just from a personal point of view, 8 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: when you got the news, could you believe what was happening? 9 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: It's pretty devastating news. It's a bad day in our navy, 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: but one that's not going to define us. 11 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: But literally when the phone rang, which I assume that 12 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: you must have thought what I mean, you can never 13 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: have thought that you would ever hear those words. 14 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 2: Look, well, when I got the phone, it was all 15 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 2: about priority as the safety and well being of the crew. 16 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: That was at the forefront of my mind. Fair enough, 17 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: and being there last night when they arrived back and 18 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: he's yelling with the Prime Minister and Minister's penk and Collins. 19 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: It was good to be there at and present to 20 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: welcome them back to vent quite through quite an ordeal. 21 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: Right as far as the divers the assessment that time 22 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: frame the job, the cost. Where are we at with that? 23 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: So at first light this morning, subject to favorable whether 24 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: the diver is going to head out to the site. 25 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 2: They've got a remotely operated vehicle which they'll send down 26 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 2: as well as do a number of dives. Their primary 27 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: purposes to assess the depth, the condition of the ship 28 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: and any presence of oil coming out of the vessel. 29 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: Beyond that, you've got no idea as to cost, time frame, 30 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: any of that. 31 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: No that the key focus for us is supporting the 32 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 2: smow and government, so we've got a number of lines 33 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: of effort. As I mentioned, the diving will be conducted. 34 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: Also have Maritime New Zealand experts with the light spilkit 35 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: and some environmental wildlife experts. They will be supporting the 36 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: government authorities with the cleanup and spill activities. We've also 37 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: got a Rural Navy ship Tamar, which is nearby. They 38 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: have a spilkit on board. Unfortunately they have been unable 39 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: to deploy that due to the web but hopefully if 40 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: the weather permits, they'll get that out today and then 41 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: we've got a heavy spilkit from Maritime New Zealand that 42 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: we're loading onto Canbury and that will deploy tomorrow. 43 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: Who makes decisions? Are you in charge or are the 44 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: Simons in charge? 45 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: It's a Samoan lead. We will provide support to them 46 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: and it's a cross agency response from a New Zealand perspective. 47 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: You got any clues as to what went wrong, that's. 48 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: The important part of it is not to do any speculation. 49 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: So we've got a Court of Inquiry team that we 50 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 2: are standing up. We're just close to finalizing that composition 51 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 2: and the terms of reference, making sure that the inquiry 52 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: covers the lead up, the event itself and also posts 53 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: so we can learn the lessons and not a repeat 54 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: event like this. 55 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: But what's the vibe? I mean, you must have a 56 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: hunch as to or you must have heard as to 57 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: what they think happened. 58 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: Again, my speculating is not what we want to do. 59 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: We need to understand the facts and that's the whole 60 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 2: reason we're setting up the Court of Inquiry and they 61 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: will do a number of interviews, get to the bottom 62 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: of what went on and in time we'll release that. 63 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: What's your role with the Minister in an assessment of 64 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: a replacement? Do you have any say at all? Or not? 65 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: Really, that's up to the government to decide that as 66 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: part of our defense capability plan, and that is going 67 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: being presented to them in the coming months. 68 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: All right, appreciate time very much, Garren Golding, who is 69 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 1: a rear admill head of the Navy. For more from 70 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks that'd 71 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.