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Speaker 1: In New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, the.

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Speaker 2: Mic Hosking Breakfast with the range rover villa designed to

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Speaker 2: intrigue and use togs.

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Speaker 3: eDV Welly, welcome to over pay equity shake up. Our

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Speaker 3: job numbers are out and we still lose any workers?

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Speaker 3: Or as it peaked Avanning social media for under sixteens?

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Speaker 3: Is that going anywhere other than the virtue signaling?

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Speaker 4: Then?

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Speaker 3: Are the cardinals are about to get underway? In Rome

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Speaker 3: Mark and Jenney Politics Wednesday, after write Richard Arnold Steve Price,

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Speaker 3: they add sparkle as well. Ascare we go? Middle of

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Speaker 3: the week seven past six. Christine Bartlett was too many

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Speaker 3: a hero if you remember the name, very likable woman,

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Speaker 3: a caregiver who argued her work was undervalued and she

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Speaker 3: deserved more. The Labour Party, who loved fields and are

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Speaker 3: not exactly unfamiliar with the unions, leapt all laborately Equal

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Speaker 3: Pay Act was born. Downside was how to compare this

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Speaker 3: so called underpaid work like nursing homes where women dominate,

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Speaker 3: and a comparable profession dominated by men. They decided at

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Speaker 3: the time comparing mechanics to rest home workers made sense,

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Speaker 3: even though it didn't and it doesn't. Why Brook van

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Speaker 3: Velden has announced pay equity is going to be quite

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Speaker 3: rightly tipped up and sorted out. Now, whether you can

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Speaker 3: sort it out sensibly is your next issue. Under current law,

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Speaker 3: the job must be performed by at least sixty percent

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Speaker 3: of the same sex. That will rise to seventy percent.

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Speaker 3: Grounds that lead you to believe that the work is

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Speaker 3: historically and currently undervalued. You will need evidence for that.

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Speaker 3: They're looking at comparators. That's your apples and oranges, or

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Speaker 3: rest home workers and mechanics. The trouble with the Bartlet

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Speaker 3: issue was twofold. One part of the argument was if

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Speaker 3: you paid people more, you would they said, recruit more easily.

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Speaker 3: Turns out that's wrong. After huge pay rises, rest home

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Speaker 3: gaps are still a disaster. And two the bill to

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Speaker 3: reach this so called equity was two billion dollars, a

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Speaker 3: lot of money. Then a lot of money. Now I

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Speaker 3: wish Van Valden well, but the simple truth is the

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Speaker 3: moment you try to engineer something, you tend to strike trouble.

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Speaker 3: Work is worth what work is worth, no matter who

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Speaker 3: does it. Some work pays more than other work. It's

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Speaker 3: based on demand or skills or sales or revenue or

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Speaker 3: scarcity or demand, or a combination of given no one

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Speaker 3: may make any on work in any given area. You

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Speaker 3: strike extraordinary complexity and trying to gerymander it. If it

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Speaker 3: turns out to attract women over men or mean over women.

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Speaker 3: It also singles out just one element of work, money

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Speaker 3: as being the sole reason for that work, and it's

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Speaker 3: not what we have doesn't work, hasn't sold anything, and

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Speaker 3: was done for very poor reasons. So reform is good,

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Speaker 3: but reform to what is a bigger trick than they

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Speaker 3: may realize.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 3: Another one of the yellow chair days at the White

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Speaker 3: House where Big Don welcomes a foreign leader. Today it's

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Speaker 3: Mark from Canada.

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Speaker 5: But I just want to congratulate you, and it ran

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Speaker 5: a really great race. I watched the debate. I thought

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Speaker 5: you were excellent, and I think we have a lot

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Speaker 5: of things in common. We have some tough points to

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Speaker 5: go over and that'll be fine.

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Speaker 3: Mike addressed the elephant in the room.

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Speaker 6: As you know from real estate, there are some places

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Speaker 6: that are never for sale. We're sitting in one right now.

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Speaker 6: Having met with the owners of Canada over the course

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Speaker 6: of the campaign last several months. It's not for sale,

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Speaker 6: won't be for sale ever.

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Speaker 3: More shortly, seem very cordial. A big deal done though

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Speaker 3: I have and eight as well, one for us to

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Speaker 3: look into given what happened to as ob yesterday, the

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Speaker 3: UK and India heave an FTA.

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Speaker 7: This is a historic day for the United Kingdom and

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Speaker 7: for India because this is the biggest trade deal that

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Speaker 7: we the UK have done since we left the EU.

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Speaker 3: Now the live dims make a point about the fine print.

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Speaker 8: It's very worrying to hear concerns that the Indian workers

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Speaker 8: coming over here may not the companies may not have

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Speaker 8: to actually pay those taxes on those workers. So we

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Speaker 8: lible Democrats want to see a debate in the House

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Speaker 8: of Commons and we think there absolutely must be a

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Speaker 8: vote as well.

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Speaker 3: Those Texas and those workers will get to in a

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Speaker 3: moment because they're interesting. Also in Britain, we've got details

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Speaker 3: in the Commons about the Iranians rounded up on Tira

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Speaker 3: the other day. Five men were arrested on suspicion of

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Speaker 3: preparation of a terrorist act contrary to Section five the

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Speaker 3: Terrorism Act of two thousand and six.

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Speaker 1: All five men are in Nashals and to.

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Speaker 3: Rhyme where the cardinals are about to lock themselves away.

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Speaker 3: This bloke is the Cardinal of Jerusalem. He's a dark

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Speaker 3: horse apparently for the big job.

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Speaker 4: Eith empower don't go well together.

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Speaker 9: If you want to be free as a religious leader,

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Speaker 9: you have to be independent from any kind of power.

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Speaker 3: Finally, I don't even know what that means anyway, fight

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Speaker 3: I certainly I don't think i'd vote for him if

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Speaker 3: I heard that anyway, more good news for snooker. Head

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Speaker 3: of the snooker governing body wants to capitalize on Zinton's

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Speaker 3: winning title yesterday or winning the time yesterday. So one

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty million people around the world watch that match,

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Speaker 3: majority of those in China. China is very important to

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Speaker 3: the IOC. So the head of the world Professional Billions

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Speaker 3: and Sneaker Associations and says, well, huh, one of the

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Speaker 3: most significant moments in the sports history could get us

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Speaker 3: into the Olympics, the Olympics of twenty thirty two in Brisbane.

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Speaker 3: So we wish him the very best of black News

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Speaker 3: of the world. In ninety Yeah, the UK India thing

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Speaker 3: they think will be worth fifty billion dollars lower the

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Speaker 3: import tariffs and Texas. We've got to look at this

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Speaker 3: because we're in here, vast majority of goods traded becoming

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Speaker 3: fully terror free within a decade, So fifty billion dollars

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Speaker 3: worth of business coming the UK's way. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 3: Just announced out of the White House the bombing on

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Speaker 3: the Hooties is going to stop. They don't want to

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Speaker 3: fight anymore. This is Trump. They don't want to fight

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Speaker 3: any more. They're going to take their word on that

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Speaker 3: they will not be blowing up chips anymore. So that

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Speaker 3: particular problem, allegedly for now is sold. Fifteen past six

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Speaker 3: from jam My Wealth Andrew Keller her good morning, the

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Speaker 3: money make this is amazing. Is this going to move

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Speaker 3: the farm gate price?

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Speaker 10: Uring well, it certainly won't do any harm.

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Speaker 11: Whether or not it's enough to shift the farm gate

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Speaker 11: milk price up will it remains to be seen. But yeah,

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Speaker 11: I feel like I've been the bearer of good news

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Speaker 11: for the last few days.

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Speaker 10: There she might bring it up.

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Speaker 3: You're bringing up big time. Has it got anything to

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Speaker 3: do with the tariffs? Did people front line or something.

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Speaker 3: It's just these are huge dairy numbers.

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Speaker 10: I don't think so that the.

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Speaker 11: Reason why the Global dairy Trade Index was so strong

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Speaker 11: last night is actually being attributed to things like the

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Speaker 11: difficult supply in parts of Europe.

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Speaker 10: So what's happened, Mike.

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Speaker 11: Just for the readers out there, for the listeners out there,

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Speaker 11: very strong results in the global drift trade auction overnight.

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Speaker 11: So it'll be happy dairy farmers and shermyl Becerus out

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Speaker 11: there in the milking sheds this morning.

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Speaker 10: Mike.

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Speaker 11: I'm sure they're all listening. The Global da Trade Index

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Speaker 11: has surged four point six percent overnight, certainly the best

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Speaker 11: outcome we've seen in the last twelve months. It does

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Speaker 11: follow a one point six percent rise a one point

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Speaker 11: one percent rise in the last two April Aucans, Mike,

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Speaker 11: We've had a couple of weeks we have what to

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Speaker 11: called global dairy trade Pulse auctions. They're sort of like

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Speaker 11: smaller little global dairy trade auctions. They're shorter, they're more frequent,

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Speaker 11: but they do complement these the bigger global dairy trade auction.

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Speaker 11: They have been indicating a continuation of the reasonably strong

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Speaker 11: demand and they do provide good price discovery. But what

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Speaker 11: we've seen across some of these some of these various

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Speaker 11: planets is amazing. It cheddar and lactose twelve percent and

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Speaker 11: over sixteen percent. Double digit games there now. Unfortunately, if

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Speaker 11: you like your butter, it's up three point eight percent,

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Speaker 11: but the people that make it will be happy. Butter

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Speaker 11: milk powder also at six point two percent. Skim milk powder,

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Speaker 11: I mean, what was it doing. It's up zero point

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Speaker 11: five percent. It's got to get with the program. It

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Speaker 11: needs to look over its shoulder at the whole milk

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Speaker 11: powder which lamped, which swored six point two percent, so

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Speaker 11: sixteen point seven thousand metric tons sold year. As I said,

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Speaker 11: I just picked up on there was some commentary about

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Speaker 11: that there is a difficult supply situation in parts of Europe.

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Speaker 11: Those supply issues work in favor of higher prices. But Mike,

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Speaker 11: good news just continues for vagro sector, doesn't.

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Speaker 3: It take it all day long?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 3: For it's interesting. They're part of the malaise that's facing

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Speaker 3: American producers. So the guidance has gone like everybody else.

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Speaker 11: Correct, So I look at what we keep looking at

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Speaker 11: the sort of broader economic data to try and ascertain

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Speaker 11: the impact of global trade and thirty at a macro level,

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Speaker 11: but from an investment point of view, it's also critical

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Speaker 11: to understand how it's affecting individual companies. So over the

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Speaker 11: last few days we're seeing companies announcements around the world

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Speaker 11: for the first quarter results.

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Speaker 10: So I've just picked a couple here that I thought

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Speaker 10: would be interesting.

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Speaker 11: Yes, Ford's the first one right in the thick of it,

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Speaker 11: really all an auto company of the fallout around cross

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Speaker 11: border towers that they have suspended their full year guidance.

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Speaker 11: It's too and said they just don't know, and this

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Speaker 11: is because of the tangled web of tariffs that might

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Speaker 11: hit the auto trade industry. They believe tariffs will reduce

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Speaker 11: their twenty twenty five adjusted and eas by about one

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Speaker 11: and a half billion dollars. The total impact actually two

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Speaker 11: and a half billion dollars. They think they can mitigate

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Speaker 11: a billion dollars. What might just think about the conversations

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Speaker 11: that are going on in boardrooms around the world. At

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Speaker 11: the moment you think you do okay, and then all

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Speaker 11: of a sudden you lose two and a half billion

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Speaker 11: dollars worth of revenue. The Ford CEO you formistically calls

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Speaker 11: this a dynamic situation. Ford reflects a General Motors statement

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Speaker 11: last week. They said they've got a five billion dollar problem.

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Speaker 11: So Ford stopped imports of Lincoln Nordialists. That's they're made

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Speaker 11: in China. They're not bring them in a more. They

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Speaker 11: also export US.

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Speaker 10: Made cast to China.

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Speaker 11: That stopped to imagine if someone had said to them

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Speaker 11: twelve months ago, hey, you know what, we're not going

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Speaker 11: to bring in those lincolnautalists anymore, and guess what, we're

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Speaker 11: not going to send them out, it would have been unimaginable.

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Speaker 11: Ford as though in a better place than other US

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Speaker 11: order makers because eighty percent of their vehicles that sell

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Speaker 11: in the US are made there.

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Speaker 3: Give us a real quick word on sky City? Is

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Speaker 3: that sky city problem or an economy problem?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 10: This is broader issue here.

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Speaker 11: Well, look there maybe a little bit of both. Maybe

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Speaker 11: a little bit of both here. But so we got

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Speaker 11: a local update yesterday from sky City chief. Prices got

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Speaker 11: smacked six percent. I'm pretty sure it dolarate is the

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Speaker 11: lowest price ever. They've revised their guidance lower.

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Speaker 10: What are they blame it on? My weak consumer spending?

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Speaker 11: This is a domestic economy that's not in a good shape,

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Speaker 11: so challenges around people as people's discretionary spending. So they're

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Speaker 11: twelve month under lone profit now four percent below previous

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Speaker 12: I think you've heard before.

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Speaker 1: We got this, we got it.

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Speaker 3: So the Hootie deal, as we told your mom and ago,

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Speaker 5: They want a piece of our market. We don't want

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Speaker 5: Of us as a super luxury store, a store that

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Speaker 3: Close her comfort. So that makes sense, doesn't it? Twenty

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Speaker 3: battle of that's what you want to call us into vaping.

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Speaker 3: Two years ago, you remember the government banned specialist vape

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Speaker 3: and is with us. Ronan morning got to make how

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Speaker 3: you're going very well? Indeed, this simply shows the laws

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Speaker 16: Yeah, that's basically the case. The legislation didn't apply to

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Speaker 16: Yeah? So it's we did three hundred meters and one

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Speaker 3: To isn't the problem? I mean, we go school gate,

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Speaker 16: Yeah, So the research from overseas and from Australia as well,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to argue with you because I actually

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Speaker 3: I think this whole thing is a disaster. Do you

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Speaker 3: And it was predicated on the idea that if we

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Speaker 16: Yeah, So I think especially for our young people on it,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as we should wrote it. Nice to talk to you,

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Speaker 3: appreciate it. Ronan Fienda out of the Faculty of Medical

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Speaker 3: like Australia. Well, what is Australia No sort of news

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Speaker 3: coverage yesterday? No one actually asked the critical question. What's

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Speaker 3: the critical question? How are they banning kids on social media?

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Speaker 3: And the answer is are you eighteen or sixteen? And

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Speaker 3: when you click yes and you're not, nothing's been achieved.

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Speaker 3: You know, I work hit out Morning Mike. What does

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Speaker 3: Britain produce that India and the rest of the world want?

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Speaker 3: Good question? I suppose pearls, precious stones, metals and coins.

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Speaker 3: They export two and a half billion dollars worth of

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Speaker 3: those machinery, nuclear reactors and boilers, one and a half billion,

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Speaker 3: iron and steel, a billion, beverage, spirits, vinegar, almost a billion,

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Speaker 3: optical photo technical, medical apparatus, half a billion electrical electronic equipment,

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Speaker 3: half a billion aluminium, half a billion chemical products, third

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Speaker 3: of a billion vehicles, half a billion copper, third of

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Speaker 3: a billion.

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Speaker 10: A lot of.

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Speaker 3: Business being done between England and India. Eighteen to two.

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Speaker 2: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: by News Talk Zippi.

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Speaker 3: Mike Morning. Any viewing stats on the snooker from Sky

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Speaker 3: know they got for some reason they headed delay. They'll

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Speaker 3: get them to us today. One hundred and fifty million globally, though,

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Speaker 3: which is good morning, Mike. All of these issues get

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Speaker 3: dumped on the government. Why aren't parents called out over

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Speaker 3: these things? Once again? Not a bad question?

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Speaker 2: Six forty five International correspondence with ends and eye insurance.

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Speaker 1: Peace of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: Is with a from the United States of America. Morning, Mike.

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Speaker 3: Seemed reasonably cordial to me.

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Speaker 17: Oh yeah, very polite, very very polite. However, bit of

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Speaker 17: tension underlying. And never say never said Trump on this

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Speaker 17: question where the Canada could become the fifty first at state,

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Speaker 17: Never said the newly elected Canadian PM Mike Conney as

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Speaker 17: he sat in the White House Oval Office, now newly

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Speaker 17: redecorated with all of Trump's gold cups and with sea

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Speaker 17: golden ornaments and bits and bobs. This was the first

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Speaker 17: meeting of the two leaders. And as you say, it

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Speaker 17: was polite enough as the tariff war ragers on, said

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Speaker 17: Canne to Trump on the sovereignty question.

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Speaker 6: As you know from real estate, there are some places

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Speaker 6: that are never for sale. We're sitting in one right now.

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Speaker 6: Gerald Buckingham Pallace, you visited as well, and having met

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Speaker 6: with the owners of Canada over the course of the

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Speaker 6: campaign last several months.

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Speaker 4: It's not for sale, won't be for sale.

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Speaker 18: Ever.

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Speaker 17: Of course, Trump insisted on a last word on all

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Speaker 17: of this.

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Speaker 12: I have had many, many things that were not doable,

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Speaker 12: and they ended up being doable, and only doable in

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Speaker 12: a very friendly way. But if it's to everybody's benefit.

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Speaker 12: You know, Canada loves us, and we love Canada.

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Speaker 17: Well, that love has been a bit tested of late.

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Speaker 17: We have significant numbers of Canadians boycotting the US, especially

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Speaker 17: when it comes to place along the border. That led

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Speaker 17: to an actual humorous remark by Trump, who noted that

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Speaker 17: County won his election as PM when the Trump label

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Speaker 17: sank his rival, the Canadian Conservative, who had been leading

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Speaker 17: in the polls pretty solidly before all of this Trump stuff.

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Speaker 12: I think I was probably the greatest thing that happened

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Speaker 12: to him. But I can't say a voote for his

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Speaker 12: party was losing by a lot and he ended up winning.

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Speaker 12: So I really want to congratulate it. Probably one of

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Speaker 12: the greatest comebacks in the history of politics.

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Speaker 17: So Trump taking credit even when Conservatives go down in flames.

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Speaker 17: Aside from the appearance thats, Trump was asked about whether

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Speaker 17: there is any chance that the tariffs on Canadian goods

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Speaker 17: might be eased in the short term.

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Speaker 12: We want to make our cars. We don't really want

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Speaker 12: cars from Canada, and we put tariffs on cars from Canada,

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Speaker 12: and at a certain point it won't make economic sense

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Speaker 12: for Canada to build those cars.

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Speaker 17: Well, that'll take years with the cost being borne by

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Speaker 17: American car buyers in the infoment, with Canada looking to

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Speaker 17: other markets. I guess. So that's the number of the

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Speaker 17: trade battle between friends. Meantime, on other issues, Trump has

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Speaker 17: announced a halt to the US bombing of Hootie rebels

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Speaker 17: in Yemen. It's been a two months bombing campaign where

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Speaker 17: they struck some eight hundred targets along the way, says Trump.

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Speaker 12: They don't want to fight anymore. They just don't want

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Speaker 12: to fight, and we will honor that and we will

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Speaker 12: we will stop the bombings. And they have capitulated. But

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Speaker 12: more importantly, they we will take their word. They say

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Speaker 12: they will not be blowing up ships anymore.

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Speaker 17: Next week, Trump is heading to the Middle East to

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Speaker 17: Sadi Arabia, the UAE, and kata and he teases announcement

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Speaker 17: to be made some time before he leaves.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna have a very very big announcement to make

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Speaker 5: like as big as it gets.

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Speaker 12: And I won't tell you on what but it and

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Speaker 12: it's very positive.

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Speaker 17: Kenney crept. He was on the edge of his seat.

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Speaker 17: Then they all went off to lunch.

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Speaker 3: Now I've been reading them, I can't get to the bot.

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Speaker 3: Is it power? Is it staff? What's going on at

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Speaker 3: Newark Airport?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 16: And yes.

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Speaker 17: Another day of chaos, flying delays, cancelations that what is

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Speaker 17: one of the biggest airports in the country New York

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Speaker 17: serves and New Jersey also part of New York. The

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Speaker 17: reason for it is pretty scary, really. They had a

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Speaker 17: situation the other day where the radar and communications in

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Speaker 17: the control tower went out for ninety seconds, leaving the

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Speaker 17: head traffic controllers and the pilots of the incoming jets

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Speaker 17: unable to connect, said one controller.

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Speaker 18: Three of the four.

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Speaker 3: Radar screenwab block.

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Speaker 1: They have no frequency.

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Speaker 17: So the jet crews are up there flying blind approach.

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Speaker 17: Are you there? Ask one of the incoming pilots. Do

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Speaker 17: I have Bravo clearances? Asked another pilot, meaning permission to

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Speaker 17: enter the airport airspace? No, says a controller. We lost

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Speaker 17: our rail you know, they do a lot of training

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Speaker 17: not for this though, and the Transportation Secretary Sewan Duffy says, it's.

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Speaker 6: A sign that we have a frail system in place

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Speaker 6: and it has to be fixed.

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Speaker 17: You think it might be a good idea. The FAA

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Speaker 17: is blaming equipment failures and staffing. A frigate of copper

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Speaker 17: wiring is said to be responsible for that ninety second

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Speaker 17: blackout of Some say they should be using fiber optics instead.

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Speaker 17: After this, at least five controllers took forty five day

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Speaker 17: break siting trauma off at ard H, so delays are

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Speaker 17: stretched into periods up to six hours now, as the

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Speaker 17: Transportation boss says, there'll be announcement later this week that

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Speaker 17: the federal government is going to try and rebuildings there,

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Speaker 17: but that could take years. So it might be a

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Speaker 17: stop to avoid in your travel plans.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you Friday. Appreciate it. Just before we leave

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Speaker 3: the States, insight into how bad these tariffs are affecting

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Speaker 3: the American economy. It's gone everywhere US agriculture sector, farm products, soybeans, corn, beef.

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Speaker 3: This is trade data, big slide in the US exports

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Speaker 3: to the world, in China, in particular as you would expect.

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Speaker 3: Port of Portland fifty one percent decrease in exports, Port

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Speaker 3: of Tacoma twenty eight percent decrease in exports. And I

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Speaker 3: note interestingly, Rwanda and the Americans are talking about taking

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Speaker 3: some immigrants illegals. So this was Rmanda. Last time he

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Speaker 3: heard Rwanda. You heard the UK, and of course they

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Speaker 3: did a deal and that went to court and that

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Speaker 3: got scuttled and Albania deals with Italy. So America now

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Speaker 3: Rwanda seem very keen to take a whole lot of

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Speaker 3: illegals anyway, So the Americans are talking about that. Currently,

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Speaker 3: light away from seven.

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Speaker 2: The Mike asking breakfast with the range Rover, the LA

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Speaker 2: News Togsdad been.

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Speaker 3: Mike, we still have a super fund of so how

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Speaker 3: is it fairing? Yes, we do, and it's faring quite nicely.

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Speaker 3: It's been whacked lately, but overall it's performing above market expectations.

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Speaker 3: As the last time I read, when they produced a report,

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Speaker 3: Richard referenced the Oval Office. Trump's been big redecorating the

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Speaker 3: Oval Office a lot of gold. Some would call it gordy,

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Speaker 3: but he.

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Speaker 9: You see the new and improved Oval Office as it

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Speaker 9: becomes more and more beautiful with love, you know, we

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Speaker 9: handle it with great love and twenty four carried goal.

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Speaker 9: That always helps too, right, But it's it's been a

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Speaker 9: lot of fun, which going over some of the beautiful

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Speaker 9: pictures that were stored in the vaults that were for

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Speaker 9: many many years, in some cases over one hundred years.

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Speaker 5: It was stored in vaults of the great presidents who

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Speaker 5: are almost great presidents, all having a reason for being up,

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Speaker 5: every one of them. So it's very interesting.

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Speaker 1: All the inns and the ouse.

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Speaker 2: It's the bizz with business fiber, take your business productivity

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Speaker 2: to the mixed level.

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Speaker 3: What do you do if your county sitting there looking

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Speaker 3: at that?

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Speaker 1: Correct?

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Speaker 3: I shouted Knight yesterday the Growth Summit head John Key

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Speaker 3: on the program yesterday they took a survey of those

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Speaker 3: who turned up, forty eight percent said this is small businesses.

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Speaker 3: Business people generally owned forty eight percents of the expected

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Speaker 3: moderate growth this year. That's good. Twenty three and a

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Speaker 3: half percent since significant growth, So you've got forty eight

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Speaker 3: and twenty three so that's a majority of people expecting growth,

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Speaker 3: so that's good. Only eighteen and a half percent said

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Speaker 3: it would stay the same. Ten percent we're expecting moderate

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Speaker 3: or significant decline. Fifty one percent hiring because their business

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Speaker 3: is growing good. Thirteen are planning to potentially drop staff,

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Speaker 3: so fifty one is a decent number. Sixty two percent

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Speaker 3: forecasting wage increases good. Fifty one percent are implementing price

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Speaker 3: increases within their businesses, with another fifteen percent undecided on

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Speaker 3: pricing at the moment. Thirty three percent say they will

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Speaker 3: maintain current pricing about a third. Thirty six said they

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Speaker 3: won't be affected by a tariff's, thirty two said they

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Speaker 3: will be. Thirty one don't know. So that's about rife

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Speaker 3: that survived at the moment, isn't it mostly maybe maybe

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Speaker 3: not two thirds? So they've got gaps at leadership level

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Speaker 3: in their business. So getting good people, finding good people,

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Speaker 3: getting them in from overseas is still a problem for

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Speaker 3: this country. What else we got? They want some help

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Speaker 3: from the government simplify the tax and compliance. They always

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Speaker 3: say that, though they want some TERRORFF relief by reducing

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Speaker 3: trade barriers. Not many trade barriers. You know, we're a

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Speaker 3: free for goodness sake, I don't know what you're I mean,

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Speaker 3: And we argue for free trade all over the world.

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Speaker 3: So overall positive momentum. Businesses are cautious to take risks

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Speaker 3: currently and they are focused on expansion, so that's reasonably encouraging.

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Speaker 3: Over before, tell you what's some fantastically interesting numbers around

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Speaker 3: newcast sales speaking of the New Zealand economy. So I'll

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Speaker 3: crunch you through some of those at the moment. Brook

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Speaker 3: van Velden, the architect of what really was one out

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Speaker 3: of the box yesterday? Who saw that one coming? And

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Speaker 3: who saw the bill? They're going to say it's billions.

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Speaker 3: So Seymour says, look, she saved the budget. Nikola goes,

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Speaker 3: it's not worry about the budget when really it is

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Speaker 3: and we all know it is so. But more importantly,

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Speaker 3: perhaps how do they solve the actual problem? Do the

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Speaker 3: changes solve the problem? Brook van Velden After the News?

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Speaker 3: Which is next?

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know,

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Speaker 2: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life

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Speaker 2: Your Way News, togs head.

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Speaker 3: Be seven past seven. Well, last time she was on

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Speaker 3: the program, she promised to swe have changed the workplace

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Speaker 3: and yesterday was your headline. Graver and overhaul of the

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Speaker 3: pay equity system are almost pasted. Sort of pass partially

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Speaker 3: passed last night under urgency. The rest goes today. As

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Speaker 3: far as I understand it, current claims are off. Brook

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Speaker 3: van Velden, Minister of Workplace Relations, is with it's very

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Speaker 3: good morning to you. Good morning mate, a bit of

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Speaker 3: heat yesterday on the grounds of Parliament. Is there more

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Speaker 3: where that came from? Do you suspect?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 19: Look, I think there'll be some people who have strong feelings,

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Speaker 19: especially people who have been trying to negotiate a claims.

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Speaker 19: But what I would say is, I think it's better

666
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Speaker 19: for everybody that we've got the system right and everybody

667
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Speaker 19: still has the opportunity to bring a claim into the future.

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Speaker 19: It's just that the current government doesn't believe that we've

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Speaker 19: got those settings right that we can genuinely hand on.

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Speaker 19: Heart's say, the outcome of these claims is to rectify

671
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Speaker 19: genuine systemic sex based undervaluation. We believe with muddy the

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Speaker 19: waters with other collective bargaining things like inflation, other labor

673
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Speaker 19: market forces. I think anybody who supports women at work,

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Speaker 19: which I do, should support us trying to identify genuine

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Speaker 19: systemic sex based undervaluation.

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Speaker 3: And there's your problem. You can't as much as I

677
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Speaker 3: support what you're trying to do, because what we're doing

678
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Speaker 3: currently is wrong. You can't because you will never compare

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Speaker 3: apples with apples. The comparators don't work.

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Speaker 19: It is always going to be difficult. You're right, But

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Speaker 19: the government is committed to having a system for pay equity.

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Speaker 19: Where we have made some moves as a government is

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Speaker 19: how to tighten those thresholds so we can have greater

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Speaker 19: confidence that we were landing is on genuine sex based discrimination.

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Speaker 19: So I'll give you a couple of examples of how

686
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Speaker 19: we've tightened it to make the system have more confidence.

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Speaker 19: At the moment, people can choose a comparator for sex

688
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Speaker 19: based discrimination across the entire workforce. We're saying, let's start

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Speaker 19: firstly at home. If you can find people within your

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Speaker 19: own employer, that would be a good starting point. If

691
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Speaker 19: that comparison can't be made made with a similar employer,

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Speaker 19: that comparison's not there within your industry. If you can't

693
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Speaker 19: find one there, you've got to stop. You can't fish

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Speaker 19: the discrimination.

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Speaker 3: Well, why don't you just had Why don't you just

696
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Speaker 3: be honest about it? You can't. I mean, this Christine

697
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Speaker 3: Bartlett thing started out everybody loves people who works and

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Speaker 3: work in ress simes. They're kind, they're loving, they're there

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Speaker 3: for the right reasons. They don't happen to get paid

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Speaker 3: a lot of money. Comparing them to mechanics was pointless.

701
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Speaker 3: It's stupid. Teachers are the same. Teachers are teachers. They're

702
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Speaker 3: not worth comparing to anything else in the world. You

703
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Speaker 3: either want to be a teacher or you don't. It

704
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Speaker 3: is what it is. And you're still trying to jurymandle

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Speaker 3: with the system.

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Speaker 19: Well, I think there's a bit of history that goes

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Speaker 19: back here. So we've had the equal pay system for

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Speaker 19: a while. I don't think anybody is disagreeing with this

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Speaker 19: that if you've got men and women doing the exact

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Speaker 19: same job.

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Speaker 3: The same that's not what you're talking about those No.

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Speaker 19: That's not. But there was a High Court case that

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Speaker 19: the National government in twenty seventeen which to then put

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Speaker 19: into law to have a process for pay equity.

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Speaker 16: So that's the basis.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, this has been supported as a pay equity system

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Speaker 19: from National and labor. What I've done as an act

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Speaker 19: Minister has come along and said, Okay, I don't think

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Speaker 19: we've got those settings right. How do I feel confidence

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Speaker 19: that we can tidy it up, so we have better

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Speaker 19: confidence that where we are landing with these settlements, we

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Speaker 19: actually finding genuine cases of discrimination based on step.

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Speaker 3: Well, I wish you well with that. When we talk

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Speaker 3: about the savings, though, I don't want to get bogged

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Speaker 3: down on this. Do you know what the savings are

726
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Speaker 3: and they will come out in the budget or is

727
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Speaker 3: this guesswork?

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Speaker 19: Look, all of the budget numbers are sensitive and I

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Speaker 19: am but do you.

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Speaker 3: Have a number? Is there an actual number?

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Speaker 19: I have been provided a number, but I can't talk

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Speaker 19: about it.

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Speaker 3: No, No, of course I don't want to do. All

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Speaker 3: I'm asking is I don't know how you've got a

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Speaker 3: number for something that you're still inventing.

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Speaker 19: Well, we have been provided a number. I'm sure only

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Speaker 19: after a few sleeps we'll be able to talk about it.

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Speaker 19: But all I can say at this point is in

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Speaker 19: the billions of figures and it will make a significant

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Speaker 19: cost reduction to the crown.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it will, or I appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 3: Brooklyn Building Workplace Minister, eleven minutes past seven past game

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Speaker 3: job numbers out today Big brains are suggesting the unemployment

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Speaker 3: rate will be five point two five point three does

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Speaker 3: it really matter? A and Z Chief Economists Sharon zolms

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Speaker 3: back will the Sharon, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 15: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 3: My big question is five point two five point three

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Speaker 3: is this it has it peaked?

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Speaker 15: That's our forecast. That's a pretty common forecast that this

751
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Speaker 15: is probably about it, which is historically a relatively low

752
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Speaker 15: peak in the unemployment rate if you can go back

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Speaker 15: to say the early nineteen nineties. Of course that's cold

754
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Speaker 15: comfort for the people who are caught up in it,

755
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Speaker 15: but given the depth of the recession that we had

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Speaker 15: last year, there was always going to be to the

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Speaker 15: labor market, and it does tend to come with quite

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Speaker 15: a lag. So given the economy is now recovering, albeit

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Speaker 15: not not rapidly, this should.

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Speaker 3: Be around the okay any sense of how it tails

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Speaker 3: off for the rest of the year and the so

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Speaker 3: called recovery picking up in the latter part of twenty five.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, So in our latest forecast revisions, we did actually

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Speaker 15: decide that unemployment will hold up at that peak for

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Speaker 15: just a bit longer, because we've just taken a bit

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Speaker 15: of growth out of our forecast. So that's partly because

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Speaker 15: some of the data's been looking a little sluggish, but

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Speaker 15: partly also because we're assuming there will be a bit

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Speaker 15: of a confidence impact from this global stuff that seems

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Speaker 15: to have settled down now. I don't think anyone would

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Speaker 15: say it's over, and certainly our latest Business Outlooks survey

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Speaker 15: did so this there has been a confidence impact. The

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Speaker 15: question is just how long lasting that will be.

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Speaker 3: Is it variable when you look at the numbers, will

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Speaker 3: dive into the numbers regionally and age wise, in other words,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of young people in the usual parts

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Speaker 3: of the country.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, definitely the number The data is based on a survey,

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Speaker 15: so it can get pretty volatile when you go down

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Speaker 15: to the regional level. But certainly age wise, it's always

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Speaker 15: been the case that young people, Mali people, Pacific Islanders,

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Speaker 15: they're just I'm a bigger rollercoaster. When it comes to

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Speaker 15: the labor market, well, they have higher average unemployments that

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Speaker 15: also much much bigger swings as well. So it's certainly

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Speaker 15: true that recessions are not felt remotely.

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Speaker 3: Evenly, they are not Charon appreciated as almost Sharon's Ona

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Speaker 3: aims at Chief Economist coverage throughout the day. Of course,

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Speaker 3: the team minutes past seven past. She's right, and that

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Speaker 3: is the peak car registration is not great for April.

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Speaker 3: This is new cars down four point one percent year

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Speaker 3: on year, a massive twenty five percent drop on March

792
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Speaker 3: passengers unchanged. The RV the Red four is the leading

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Speaker 3: six hundred and ninety seven of them, Ranger behind it,

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Speaker 3: followed by the High Lux, the Rangers inching closer to

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Speaker 3: overtaking the high Lucks of year to date sales or

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Speaker 3: year to year sales ASX is in there, the outland

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Speaker 3: of the Celtoss, the Navara at the high Ace, the

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Speaker 3: MG one hundred and fifty one. The real story Pollstar.

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Speaker 3: By the way, as far as pure ev is concerned,

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Speaker 3: Pollstar leads to the pack. The real story is Tesla.

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Speaker 3: I'll come back to that. Tesla in this country has

802
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Speaker 3: absolutely created which I ask you the question, if you're

803
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Speaker 3: a Tesla owner or thinking of being a Tesla on it,

804
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 3: does the elor thing mean anything to you or not?

805
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 3: Because it's real. And wait till I get to the

806
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Speaker 3: European numbers, they're even worse. Fourteen past the Hike Asking

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Speaker 3: Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard By News Talks

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Speaker 3: that'd be just talks. To me seventeen past seven. So

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Speaker 3: the Fame conclave about to get underway in Rome. One

810
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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty three cardinals at Vatican City. They go inside.

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Speaker 3: They don't come out until the white smoke is seen

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Speaker 3: by the world. So what do we know, Mark O'Connor,

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Speaker 3: Catholic journalists in Vatican City at the moment, as with us, Mark,

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Speaker 3: morning to.

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Speaker 4: You, Good morning.

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Speaker 3: How these past couple been fascinating times.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, well, they're very hectic and frenetic. There are four

818
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Speaker 20: thousand journalists here in Rome are credited. There's a lot

819
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 20: of rumors, a lot of gossip, a lot of theories,

820
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 20: a lot of discussions about what will happen next. But

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Speaker 20: one thing is for certain. Tomorrow evening Rome, by tomorrow

822
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Speaker 20: afternoon run time, they will process into the Sistine Chapel

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Speaker 20: and they really effectively won't come out until the white

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Speaker 20: smoke and the new Pope is elected. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 20: fascinating us to see what's going to evolve. There are

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Speaker 20: a number of options, but I think, you know, I'm

827
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Speaker 20: pretty optimistic myself as to where things will go, you know,

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Speaker 20: continuing on the legacy of Pope Paransis. I don't think

829
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Speaker 20: there's going to be any dramatic reversal.

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Speaker 4: There are a few.

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Speaker 20: Cardinals, yeah, there are a few cardinals are who are

832
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Speaker 20: kind of been loudly, kind of having their go in

833
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Speaker 20: the early days of the pre conclave meetings, but I

834
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Speaker 20: don't think there are any of the anything but a minority.

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Speaker 3: Very interesting because I was reading about the College of

836
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Speaker 3: Cardinals report, which is available online, but it was made

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Speaker 3: into a book, and the book was handed out, and

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Speaker 3: this is some sort of sure yeah yea, yeah, yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: and so yeah, wow, that's not going to happen.

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Speaker 20: No, I mean that that College of Cardinal's reports is

841
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Speaker 20: funded by you right wing Republican Trumpist's Catholics who have

842
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Speaker 20: been opponents of Pope Francis, and they've they've been trying

843
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Speaker 20: to find and dig up dirt on all sorts of

844
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Speaker 20: prospective candidates for the papacy that they don't like. But

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Speaker 20: you know, I mean, nobody's perfect, and plenty of bishops

846
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Speaker 20: and cardinals have made mistakes and nobody and the one

847
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Speaker 20: who's elected isn't going to be perfect either. However, I think,

848
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Speaker 20: you know, doing those sorts of hit jobs, they might

849
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Speaker 20: give themselves personal satisfaction. Those people but they have no

850
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Speaker 20: impact on the cardinals. The cardinals buy and group buy

851
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Speaker 20: larger a group of people who are pretty common sense,

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Speaker 20: reasonable decent people, and they don't like hit jobs on

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Speaker 20: their fellow colleagues, et cetera. So yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 20: think there are I would put it in terms of

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Speaker 20: a driving analogy, there are there are when you're driving

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Speaker 20: a car, there are some who are trying to reverse

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Speaker 20: the car that Pape France has started, which was reform

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Speaker 20: of the church, I think in a sensible, moderate way.

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Speaker 20: There are others who wanting to go forward, but say, oh, well,

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Speaker 20: he caused a little bit disruption. You know, he wasn't

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Speaker 20: a typical he was an Argentinian pope. He caused some

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Speaker 20: people didn't like him. Most people did. In fact, a

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Speaker 20: lot of people who weren't Catholics liked him more than

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Speaker 20: some Catholics. And so they say, you know, oh well,

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Speaker 20: let's sort of sort of slow things down. We don't

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Speaker 20: want to reverse things, but we'll just put the brake

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Speaker 20: on a bit. And then there are others who I

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Speaker 20: think want to go into cruise control and say, and

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Speaker 20: I think they're the majority of you, say, look, we're

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Speaker 20: never going to get another of Pape Francis.

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Speaker 4: He was completely unique.

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Speaker 20: But we definitely need somebody who is going to take

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Speaker 20: the judge forward in a new age where you've got

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Speaker 20: Trump and Putin and a whole very chaotic you know,

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Speaker 20: world at war, you know, and the guards are in

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Speaker 20: all these things. And I think they're they're going to

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Speaker 20: look for somebody like Pape Francis who can connect with people,

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Speaker 20: because he's not just going to be the pope for Catholics.

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Speaker 20: He's going to be the pope who needs to talk

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Speaker 20: to human beings, you know, about their fundamental rights and dignity.

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Speaker 20: And Francis was great at that. So I think that's

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Speaker 20: going to go to you. And there's another group who

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Speaker 20: I think the two Jesuit Cardinals are very prominent people

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Speaker 20: that are in the conclave. They're more accelerators, you know.

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Speaker 20: I think they'll they'll have interesting things to say, but

886
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Speaker 20: I think it's more likely it's going to come from

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Speaker 20: a moderate progressive and the Italians really want to pay back.

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Speaker 20: They haven't had it for forty they haven't had it

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Speaker 20: for forty five years. But there's only seventeen cardinals that

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Speaker 20: are Italian, you know, out of one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 20: three and Italians, and the Italians are notoriously divided amongst themselves,

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Speaker 20: so I don't think they're going to.

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Speaker 4: Get their candidate.

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Speaker 20: He was Cardinal parallel in the Secretary of State. He's

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Speaker 20: a fine man, but he's a diplomat, and you know,

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Speaker 20: he can't you know, he hasn't got a lot of

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Speaker 20: charisma with people. And he's but he's a beautiful man,

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Speaker 20: but you know, he lacks that quality to connect with people.

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Speaker 20: I think the cardinals are going to really want to

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Speaker 20: have somebody who has a little bit of charisma and

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Speaker 20: connects with ordinary people as well.

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Speaker 3: All Mark, We've got to move it on, but I

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Speaker 3: appreciate it very much. Mike O'Connor, brother Mike O'Connor out

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Speaker 3: was not Walts on a platform that he should not

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Speaker 3: have been on, sent details to people who should not

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Speaker 3: have been in the loop about planes, where they were leaving,

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Speaker 3: where they were going, who they were killing. It was

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Speaker 3: a war. Erica sent emails to herself, not emails about

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Speaker 3: war or really anything of great substance. The Chinese or

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Speaker 3: have been exercised or interested or held anyone hostage. Broke

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Speaker 3: the Cabinet Manual. Most people have never heard of the

933
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Speaker 3: Cabinet Manual. Most people have heard of the Hootie and

934
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Speaker 3: the Middle East and the ongoing war. Though how you

935
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Speaker 3: tell a story is the key here, because it goes

936
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Speaker 3: to credibility. The media has credibility trouble, and this country,

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Speaker 3: the state television operator in particular, has credibility issues. What

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Speaker 3: Erka did is not new labour. In fact, my bet,

939
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Speaker 3: people in every government since the invention of the computer

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Speaker 3: and email and the Cabinet Manual have probably sent themselves

941
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Speaker 3: some work. A piece of small reportage is probably appropriate

942
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Speaker 3: rules or rules, and ministers should stick with them. She

943
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Speaker 3: is admitted it is not best practice. A couple of

944
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 3: others wandered out yesterday and said, yep, me too. We

945
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Speaker 3: already know a long list of the last government did

946
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Speaker 3: exactly the same thing. At no point was security breached

947
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Speaker 3: or a plane launched, or did anyone die. Context somewhere

948
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Speaker 3: within TV and said there are pieces missing, the pieces

949
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Speaker 3: that connect their thinking and use judgment to those of

950
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Speaker 3: us out here in the real world. Their sense of

951
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Speaker 3: what is big and important and in need of a

952
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 3: two part blockbuster is broken. In a country and in

953
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Speaker 3: world where any number of large, complex and life changing

954
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Speaker 3: events are happening all around us continually, Erica and her

955
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Speaker 3: admin isn't one of them, and it is so obviously

956
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Speaker 3: not one of them. The fact they think it is

957
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Speaker 3: should be of serious concern to those who run the place.

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Speaker 3: As a fellow media practitioner, I'm increasingly embarrassed at an

959
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Speaker 3: industry I've spent my working life in watching it crumble

960
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Speaker 3: as judgment, professionalism, and audience understanding goes down. The gurgler

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Speaker 3: asking Uber drivers are starting to buy Teesla's, Mike, They're

962
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Speaker 3: going to get some bargains. No, Elon doesn't affect my

963
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Speaker 3: decision to buy a Tesla. Why are we letting forty thousand,

964
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Speaker 3: Mike unskilled immigrants in every year with unemployment over five percent?

965
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Speaker 3: Good news, my friend, We're not. We do not let

966
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Speaker 3: unskilled people into the country. I don't know where you

967
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Speaker 3: get your run numbers from. I will come back to

968
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Speaker 3: the Tesla numbers, Mike, current Tesla owner Elon factor definitely

969
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Speaker 3: a thing I bought mine in twenty two before he

970
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 3: was so openly a Nazi and a bell end. But

971
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Speaker 3: unlike many others, I bought the technology, not the person.

972
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Speaker 3: That's why I asked the question. And you're buying because

973
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Speaker 3: something's happened here. I'll give you the numbers, especially internationally.

974
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 3: Here it's a disaster, but internationally it's even worse, which

975
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Speaker 3: leads me to believe it's not tech because the tech

976
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Speaker 3: hasn't changed, or the shape or the price. It's entirely Elon.

977
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Speaker 3: You don't like Elon. You bought a car because of Elon?

978
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Speaker 3: So my question is why.

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Speaker 2: Your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and honored facts,

980
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Speaker 2: the Mike Hosking breakfast with the range Rover villa designed

981
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Speaker 2: to intrigue and use Tog's head by texts.

982
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Speaker 3: He was an impressive role model, not now. This is

983
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Speaker 3: Elon and whether you bought a Tesla because of Elon?

984
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Speaker 3: He was an impressive role model?

985
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Speaker 10: Not now?

986
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Speaker 3: Does that mean you buy a car because of the

987
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Speaker 3: role model? So why would you buy it to who's

988
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 3: the role model at Toyota that you bought the car

989
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 3: based on? That doesn't make any sense. The demise of

990
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Speaker 3: Tesla demonstrates the fickle nature of the woke thinking of

991
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 3: the left. Unfortunately there easily swayed. Well, that assumes that

992
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Speaker 3: people who bought Tesla's are left leaning, and you can't

993
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 3: possibly know that. So the market here, as I gave

994
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Speaker 3: you the numbers earlier on Phillip, sort of bad. That's

995
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Speaker 3: a bad couple of years cars. Let's be honest, Pole

996
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Speaker 3: Stars leading the EVS. Tesla's completely crashed in terms of

997
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Speaker 3: sales in this country. They made it's a wholly owned subsidiary.

998
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Speaker 3: By the way of the Netherlands based Tesla International. They

999
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Speaker 3: made in the last year one hundred and forty nine

1000
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Speaker 3: million dollars worth of sales. Is that good? Not really,

1001
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Speaker 3: because the year before they made three hundred and seventy

1002
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Speaker 3: three So, in other words, their business is more than halved.

1003
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Speaker 3: In Europe, it is an absolute disaster. So pick a country.

1004
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 3: Denmark sales down sixty seven percent, Netherlands seventy four percent,

1005
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 3: Portugal thirty three percent, France fifty nine percent, Sweden eighty

1006
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 3: one percent. As a business, you can't soak those numbers

1007
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Speaker 3: up and survive. So something has to change. And him

1008
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Speaker 3: going back to the company because he wants to give

1009
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Speaker 3: up on those I don't know turns it around? Does

1010
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 3: it turn it round in your mind? Or if you

1011
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 3: if you one of those people who suddenly I thought

1012
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 3: Tesla was cool because of Elon, you no longer think

1013
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,479
Speaker 3: he's cool. He doesn't become call just because he doesn't

1014
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 3: work for dose anymore?

1015
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Speaker 4: Does he?

1016
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Speaker 3: Twenty two minutes away from it?

1017
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Speaker 20: Now?

1018
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Speaker 3: What we make of as members bill looking v on

1019
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: social media for the under sixteens based on the Australian model.

1020
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Speaker 3: Basically it would make companies use age verification now. The

1021
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Speaker 3: National MP Catherine Webb is behind the bill and as

1022
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Speaker 3: well as Catherine, very good.

1023
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Speaker 21: Morning to you, Good morning Mike.

1024
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Speaker 3: We've got a little bit of theory versus reality going here.

1025
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Speaker 21: No, absolutely not. I strongly believe that parents should be

1026
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Speaker 21: better supported and protecting their children from the online harms

1027
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Speaker 21: of social media. I'm regularly hearing from parents and principles

1028
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Speaker 21: who are worried about the negative impacts of social media,

1029
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Speaker 21: whether it's cyber bullying, exploitation, or inappropriate content, concerns about

1030
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Speaker 21: anxiety and mental well being and mental health. And this

1031
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Speaker 21: bill mirrors the approach that's been taken in Australia. It's

1032
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Speaker 21: going to put the onus on social media companies to

1033
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Speaker 21: ensure that you have to be over the age of

1034
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Speaker 21: sixteen before they can access social media.

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Speaker 3: Well, you don't have to be. All you have to

1036
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Speaker 3: be is the person who clicks the button that says

1037
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Speaker 3: you are, which is two completely different things, isn't it.

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Speaker 21: Well, I think at the moment social media companies aren't

1039
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Speaker 21: doing enough. You know, it's incredibly easy for a young

1040
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Speaker 21: child to set up a Snapchat account or a social

1041
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 21: media account because they just put in often fake ages

1042
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Speaker 21: and they have full access as many parents know. But

1043
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Speaker 21: this bill requires that these social media companies must take

1044
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Speaker 21: reasonable steps to prevent under sixteen year olds from having accounts,

1045
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Speaker 21: and if they fail to do that, they're going to

1046
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Speaker 21: face significant penalties under this bill. So putting the onus

1047
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Speaker 21: on the social media company.

1048
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Speaker 3: What are the significant steps, specifically.

1049
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 21: The significant steps, Well, that will be up to the

1050
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 21: social media companies to put better ID verification in place,

1051
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 21: and so do you know they can do it, Well,

1052
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Speaker 21: that's what they're working that's what they're working on in

1053
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Speaker 21: Australia at the moment, and that's you know, what they

1054
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 21: are working on in many areas around the world. Because

1055
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Speaker 21: of course there's many jurisdictions that are also taking action

1056
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Speaker 21: in this space. You will have seen in the UK

1057
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Speaker 21: and you Canada and then Texas recently past legislation which

1058
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Speaker 21: bans under eighteens.

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Speaker 3: I get what I'm trying to get, Catherine. What I'm

1060
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 3: trying to get out of you is the reality versus

1061
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Speaker 3: the theory, which is what I started with this. As

1062
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Speaker 3: much as I am on your side, and every parent

1063
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 3: would be on your side, if you can't technically make

1064
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 3: somebody do something or they don't technically know how to

1065
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Speaker 3: do it, all you're doing is relying on honesty, and

1066
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Speaker 3: we know that's a futile exercise.

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Speaker 21: Well, I think we have restrictions in the physical world

1068
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 21: to protect our kits, so we should have restrictions in

1069
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Speaker 21: the online world and this bill, but only.

1070
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Speaker 3: If you can you can technically, you can't sort of

1071
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 3: going are you sixteen or not? Short of that, there

1072
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Speaker 3: is nothing there technically, and the Australians have found this out.

1073
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Speaker 3: Of course, there's nothing there that is available to us

1074
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Speaker 3: that makes that happen.

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Speaker 21: But at the moment, you know, parents, they are really

1076
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Speaker 21: really struggling, and.

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm I'm a parent.

1078
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Speaker 12: I get it.

1079
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 3: I know you're seeing me the emotion. Don't sell me

1080
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Speaker 3: the emotion, sell me the technical answer, and sadly you

1081
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Speaker 3: don't have one.

1082
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Speaker 21: No, well, I think that we do because this bill

1083
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Speaker 21: it says to those social media companies that you must

1084
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Speaker 21: take reasonable steps, and what if they say.

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Speaker 3: We can, technically, we simply don't know how to do it,

1086
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Speaker 3: because think about just zooming on the phone. The kids

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Speaker 3: in your room with your phone, they go on into

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Speaker 3: social media, they think are you sixteen?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Or no. What you're asking them to do technically is

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Speaker 3: when the kid lies and goes, yes, I'm sixteen. Somehow

1092
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 3: magically Mark Zuckerberg's going to go hah, no, you're not,

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Speaker 3: and he can't do that.

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Speaker 21: It's not going to be perfect, Mike, It's not going

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00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 21: to be perfect. But at the moment, this is a

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Speaker 21: direction from the government that we need to do more

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Speaker 21: to protect our kids from online harm, and we need

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Speaker 21: to put the onus back on those social media companies

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Speaker 21: who are serving our kids at the moment inappropriate content.

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Speaker 21: We are just seeing so much damage caused in our

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00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 21: communities from social media and so this is a really

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00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 21: important step in the right direction, and we really need

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00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 21: to try to protect our kids.

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00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 3: ACT not with it. So do you see Labor coming

1105
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 3: on board with us?

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00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 21: Look, we're getting some positive responses because everyone, I think

1107
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 21: sees there's a need and there's a need to protect

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00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 21: our kids from online harm. This is a bill that

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00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 21: I've been working on for over a year now, and

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00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 21: it is complex. As we've already discussed that it's progressive

1111
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 21: that I've got it through our National Party caucus. The

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00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 21: Prime Minister is keen to work on this further and

1113
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 21: look at it and see whether we can bring forward

1114
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Speaker 21: as a government bill, which would be a really good

1115
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 21: result for families and parents and kids across New Zealand.

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00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 21: So I'll be absolutely advocating for it to become a

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00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 21: government bill and i'd encourage those other parties to get

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00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 21: behind it.

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Speaker 3: All right, Catherine Us talk to you. Appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 3: Catherine Weird, who's the National TOOKI took emp out of

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00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 3: the way. We'll ask Ginny because of course ACT aren't

1122
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 3: on it, and they're not on it for the very

1123
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 3: same reasons I argue it's actually not doable. If it

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00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 3: was doable, fantastic, We're all behind it, but I'm just

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00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 3: not in too politicians who virtue signal, which is essentially

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00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 3: what this is. Because you sell a motion, you go

1127
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 3: this is a problem, this is an issue. We all

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00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 3: need help and we all go yes, yes, yes, yes,

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00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 3: And what's your answer? Well, something that doesn't work. I mean,

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00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 3: what nurse's point of that. So we will talk to

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00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 3: Ginny about that. In After eight o'clock sixteen two, the.

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Speaker 3: Oliver Oaks, whose very well respected name in the F

1136
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 3: one world and was recently appointed the team principal at Elpin.

1137
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 3: He's quit, so that's not going well for them. There's

1138
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 3: something about the French and I got this from Drive

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00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 3: to Survive. Every time you look at helping there's something

1140
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 3: they will reno. There's something about them being French. They're

1141
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 3: a true French side of French manufacturing side. There's something

1142
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 3: about their frenchness that doesn't work in the real world. Anyway,

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00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 3: He's quit and I'm assuming to and it's not far

1144
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 3: behind him. Karney, who came out of the Yellow Chair Room,

1145
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 3: has held his own press conference talking about US Canada relations.

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Speaker 6: We are masters in our own home and we can

1147
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 6: give ourselves far more than any foreign government can ever

1148
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 6: take away. So now is the time to build, and

1149
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 6: based on the discussion today, to build at home and

1150
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 6: to build with our partners abroad, including the United States.

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00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 3: He's no dynamo, but I quite like the cut of

1152
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 3: his jib. I watched him on election night. He spoke

1153
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 3: really well. He moves between French and English reasonably well. Anyway,

1154
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 3: fifty first state, what do we reckon?

1155
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Speaker 6: The President has made known his wish about that.

1156
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 3: Issue for some time.

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00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 6: I've been careful always to distinguish between wish and reality.

1158
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 6: I distinguished between the two, and then with respect to

1159
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 6: the importance of re establishing a constructive relationship for negotiations,

1160
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 6: of a partnership, of an economic and security partnership, which

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00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 6: is what we were here for, I look for it,

1162
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 6: not back, and I think we established a good basis today.

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00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 3: You did Okay, morning, Michael realized the bill won't solve

1164
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 3: the problem fully, but as parents, you can do something

1165
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 3: about it with the data planes. Of course we can't.

1166
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 3: We can always go back to parents. It's a morning

1167
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 3: of frustration. I think this is what I'm concluding, it's

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00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 3: a mourning frustration for me because it was like the

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00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 3: vaping interview we did earlier on when a government. If

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00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 3: a government wants to tackle vaping, they know what they

1171
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 3: can do. They didn't do it two years ago. What

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00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 3: they said is you've got an established business, you can

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00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 3: keep it open. Then some guy to university goes and

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00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 3: does a study and sees all the shops that were

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00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 3: open are still open. They where they were two years ago.

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00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 3: Guess what, they're still there now, and they happen to

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Speaker 3: be within a killermeter. Some of them might even be

1178
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 3: doing better than they exactly. And so so, I mean,

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Speaker 3: you knew what the outcome was going to be. Catherine

1180
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 3: where God bless her. I mean she doesn't have the

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00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 3: technical now, so clearly to understand that technically you can't

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00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 3: do what she wants to do. Do we wish there

1183
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 3: was that, yes, but there isn't. So don't start waxing

1184
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 3: and waning about what.

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Speaker 14: Near what we should really do as parent.

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00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 3: You're not solving any problems. So report out and then

1187
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 3: the orders to general. I thought he was leaving. So

1188
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 3: he announces yesterday a probe and to school lunch is

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00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 3: to do, what to write? Yes, another report that goes,

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Speaker 3: oh somebody found a frozen bun and somebody else got

1191
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 3: a chicken bone, and you know, stop wasting my time.

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00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 3: Then there's a report out this morning, and Mike Case

1193
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 3: is going to hate me because I like Mike, because

1194
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 3: Mike grows cherries and very good ones. But he's fixated

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Speaker 3: with electricity and he's behind this report this morning about

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Speaker 3: all the things that are run by fossil fuels in

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Speaker 3: this country. And they emailed me incessantly over the last

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Speaker 3: couple of days. And it's called the Machine Count Report,

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Speaker 3: and I thought, oh, yeah, that'll be moderately interesting. How

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Speaker 3: many machines in this country? I thought. I said to Sam,

1201
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 3: you said, didn't know Sam, I said, to you, Sam,

1202
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 3: Sam's the producer of the program. I got to introduce him.

1203
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 3: Every time I mentioned his name, I said, Sam, I said,

1204
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 3: it'll be interesting to know. I mean, how many blowers,

1205
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 3: leaf blowers, how many line trimmers, how many motor mowers

1206
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 3: are there? All that sort of stuff. And the report

1207
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 3: doesn't even tell you that for a start. So I

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00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 3: was disappointed in the report. Say what posentage are just

1209
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 3: in your garage? No, pushmars. There are five hundred and

1210
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 3: five thousand push mahers in this country. That's an interesting

1211
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 3: stat doesn't take us anywhere, doesn't solve anything, certainly doesn't

1212
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 3: keep kids off social media. But there are five hundred

1213
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 3: and five thousand push mowers in this country. That's good.

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00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 3: Turns out though. And here's the sham of the report.

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00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 3: What do you think the bulk of the machines in

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00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 3: this country that are powered by petrol of gas are

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00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 3: the answers cars. So we already knew that. So telling

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00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,479
Speaker 3: me there's a couple of push mowers and a water heat.

1219
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 3: Do you know the sixty four boilers in the country

1220
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 3: run by petrol gas? Whipped?

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00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 18: Ye?

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Speaker 1: Do so?

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Speaker 3: The whole repoy? How long was the report? Seventy seventy

1224
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 3: five pages? Hey, why you go to the orders at

1225
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 3: General's office and get on the old fax machine and

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00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 3: print a few of those off and spread them around

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Speaker 3: the place. Pointless waste of time. Nothing's changed.

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Speaker 2: Eight to eight them my casking breakfast with Bailey's Real

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00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: estate news dogs.

1230
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Speaker 3: There'd be Mike, I feel your pain this morning. I

1231
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 3: suggest you send the report from your work email to

1232
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 3: your personal email, then print, and then shred very funny

1233
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 3: warrant mikey U. Okay, yeah, I'm my ca. I'm good.

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00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 3: You're having a bad day now not I'm having a

1235
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 3: very good day. Do you know what I think it is?

1236
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 3: I'm being apart from this morning's program, which is full

1237
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 3: of people with weird ideas that are going nowhere and

1238
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 3: achieved nothing. Do you know what the problem is? John Key?

1239
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 3: John Key came on this program. Every time I talked

1240
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 3: to John Key, I'm inspired and reminded of what this

1241
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 3: country can be. And that's my problem. My problem at

1242
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 3: the moment is the frustration I have with people going nowhere,

1243
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 3: doing nothing, coming up with stupid ideas, wasting my time

1244
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 3: writing reports that achieve nothing, fix nothing, solve nothing, and

1245
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 3: they just fill the room with noise. And then I

1246
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 3: have to watch the news at night because it's my job,

1247
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 3: and I watch somebody send an email from herself to

1248
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 3: herself and that's a two part special. And I'm thinking

1249
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 3: the media that I've spent my entire life and is

1250
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 3: crumbling before my eyes. And this passes as professionalism these days.

1251
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 3: And then John comes on the program and goes, we

1252
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 3: can be good and we can be great, and we

1253
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 3: can do all o those things. So I think that's

1254
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 3: my unfolding frustration at the moment. Then I read about

1255
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 3: couyeing Aura, this deck who got booted out, and we

1256
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 3: were told you the other day they're finally booting people

1257
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 3: out of these houses. This guy, this is in PAMI

1258
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Speaker 3: eighty eight police call outs, fifty notices from kyeing Aura,

1259
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Speaker 3: dozens of complaints, finally evicted. His name's Corey, Let's call

1260
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 3: him Corey the dick. So was a tenant since April

1261
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 3: of sixteen, twenty sixteen. So been there for years, multiple notices.

1262
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 3: Between feb and December of last year, police had thirty

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00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 3: one records relating to the property. Do you think the

1264
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 3: police got nothing better to do with their time? Kyng

1265
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 3: Aura had issued fifty separate notices. And that is what

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00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 3: it takes to boot a lay about, a loser, a

1267
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 3: go nowhere out of the state house. Meantime, there's record cues,

1268
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 3: thousands of people, decent people who want a break to

1269
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 3: get into a house, and we're giving it to him

1270
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 3: and spending that amount of time and energy. That's the

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Speaker 3: stuff that does my heaven. Mike Mitchell, Ginny Anderson.

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Speaker 2: Next the news and the newsmakers, the Mic Asking, Breakfast

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00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 2: with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial

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Speaker 2: and rural news, togs.

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Speaker 21: Head, be Baby, I'm all I've been talking, Dear John Letter,

1276
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 21: is the last time I'm there?

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Speaker 3: Gona of course it comes like Miley Cyrus.

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Speaker 1: Before I gets a bit.

1279
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Speaker 22: You think I'm on a message, it's not.

1280
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Speaker 3: It's Maddie and Tay, the sisters Well the Well according

1281
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 3: they're unstoppable and unstoppable country popforce and funnily enough, despite

1282
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 3: being a pretty hardcore country fan, I've never heard of them.

1283
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 3: So four albums in, I'm just getting introduced, maybe like

1284
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 3: you are at the moment. Is this all right? They

1285
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 3: are quite likely? Are quite like forty eight minutes and

1286
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 3: thirty four seconds over sixteen tracks. Love and Light is

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01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 3: the name of the album. Politics Wednesday, Jinny Anderson's with

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01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,439
Speaker 3: us along with Mark Mitchell. Good morning to both of you.

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01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 4: Morning, morning, morning.

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01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 3: Do you know have you heard about our new country

1291
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 3: music station, Jinny?

1292
01:00:59,160 --> 01:00:59,959
Speaker 17: Oh no, I haven't.

1293
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 3: It's on various frequencies around the country, and it's on iHeartRadio.

1294
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 3: We've launched all launching this Friday, a country music station.

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Speaker 23: Oh great, I'm in, I'm in.

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Speaker 3: I reckon, I'm not in between six and ninety listen

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Speaker 3: other times of the day.

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Speaker 23: But I'll tell my dad too, John, and we're talking

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Speaker 23: and help me in as well.

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Speaker 3: Tell your dad Mark, where is GiB and mcskimming?

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Speaker 14: Well, he's suspended at the moment, and I can't say

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Speaker 14: anything more than that.

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Speaker 3: How long is he going to be suspended for?

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Speaker 14: Well, until the process is complete, And I'm afraid I

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Speaker 14: just can't say that.

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Speaker 3: I understand that. But why does it take so long?

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Speaker 3: Is there are very obvious once this all comes out

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Speaker 3: in the wash one way or another. Is there an

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Speaker 3: obvious reason why it's taken so long. He's been suspended

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Speaker 3: for months now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 14: I just you know, these metters do take They're taken seriously.

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Speaker 4: There is a.

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Speaker 14: Process that has to be followed that can feel like

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Speaker 14: it takes a long time, but it's got to be

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Speaker 14: done properly.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Jenny, I watch here's a text for you. I

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Speaker 3: watched Question Time yesterday as the nude I am as indeed,

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Speaker 3: i am, I'm interested. If you asked, Genny please of

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Speaker 3: Labour's biggest concern in education at the moment, is emails

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Speaker 3: being sent from Erica's Gmail address, and that was Willow

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Speaker 3: jen Prime. Was that story a stitch up between your

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Speaker 3: party and Mikey Sherman?

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Speaker 23: There is a concern. I mean, don't let's not forget

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Speaker 23: that clear Current was prosecuted on this and ended up

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Speaker 23: losing your job as a result of not using.

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Speaker 3: I think I think it was a coffee with Carol

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Speaker 3: Hirschfeld that did her in.

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Speaker 23: Well yeah, well, but the point is that we need

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Speaker 23: to know those things and we get pretty strict briefings

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Speaker 23: from GCSB. You know. That's why guys and all of

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Speaker 23: those Internet safety people that it's a real risk to

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Speaker 23: be doing that and not to do it, to be upfront.

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Speaker 11: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: No one argues you break the rules, but you guys

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Speaker 3: all broke the rules. We know that, and that's why

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Speaker 3: I can't work out. So was it a stitch up?

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Speaker 3: Was Willo Jeen Prime feeding Mikey Sherman? Is this how

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Speaker 3: this works?

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Speaker 23: No? No, I think there's therese information going everywhere at

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Speaker 23: the moment. There's lots of different people in the public

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Speaker 23: who have who are now saying that eric Is Sinford

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Speaker 23: has asked them to email her at their address.

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Speaker 3: So this can I just say this thing? And I'm

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Speaker 3: not a technical expert, but my wife was explaining she

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Speaker 3: is was explaining to me. We've got a number of

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Speaker 3: email addresses. I've got a number of email addresses, and

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Speaker 3: depending on how the email arrives depends on what thing

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Speaker 3: it sends it back in, and you may or may

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Speaker 3: not know what that address is. If that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Is it possible that I write to Erica, Erica replies

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Speaker 3: to me and they go, right, that's on Gmail as

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Speaker 3: opposed to a ministerial account, and she may not have

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Speaker 3: known that.

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Speaker 23: No, that's not right. So the parliamentary system is secure

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Speaker 23: and it's encrypted in Gmail is not And no, I

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Speaker 23: know that.

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Speaker 3: But if I wrote to her on Gmail, if I

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Speaker 3: looked up her address and saw it was Erica at Gmail,

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Speaker 3: and I wrote to Erica at Gmail and she replied

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Speaker 3: on gmailers, it's not her fault. But I wrote to.

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Speaker 23: Her, No that I think that's the point that we

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Speaker 23: need to get to the bottom of that. The parliamentary

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Speaker 23: system is unlikely to allow that kind of a division

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Speaker 23: to be in place.

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Speaker 3: Okay. Having said that, your question, surely, Mark, is that

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Speaker 3: there's a world of really big stuff going on right now.

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Speaker 3: This isn't one of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I can help Genny get to the bottom.

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Speaker 14: But quite simply, Erica Stanford is working extremely hard on

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Speaker 14: making our education system much better and much more friendly,

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Speaker 14: user friendly for both our teachers and parents to get

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Speaker 14: our kids back at school and get them learning again.

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Speaker 4: So that's number one.

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Speaker 14: Number two she used her Gmail, she said, because she

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Speaker 14: had to print some documents.

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Speaker 4: Totally get it. Though. Apparently minister or services are fixing that.

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Speaker 4: So the reality is the reality. So there's no big

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Speaker 4: conspiracy here, Jinny.

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Speaker 14: It's just quite quite simply a minister is working very

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Speaker 14: hard trying to get the job done.

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Speaker 4: She said. Yes, it wasn't the perfect process. She's aware

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Speaker 4: of it.

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Speaker 3: Now we all want to do it again. The create absolutely,

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Speaker 3: and we go back to twenty eighteen, Jenny, And this

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Speaker 3: is the end of it because I'm sick of it.

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Speaker 3: But you guys all did it. When I say you're

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Speaker 3: not you specifically, but there's a long list of labor

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Speaker 3: and piece who did it. I mean, it's it's just

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Speaker 3: stuff happens, that's life. It's admin. Move on. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is not a scandal.

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Speaker 23: We just need to make sure that in this day

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Speaker 23: and age, when he's increasing risks around security of internet

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Speaker 23: and information, particularly budget information, that everyone's using the rules

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Speaker 23: as they are. And you know marks me before, he's

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Speaker 23: a big guy for the rules, loves them, must stick

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Speaker 23: to them. So that applies to all in peace and

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Speaker 23: we need to be clearer that everyone needs to be

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Speaker 23: using them well before.

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Speaker 3: I forget Ginny Catherine Wedd's thing on social media, would

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Speaker 3: you guys back that? Given act wont Well?

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Speaker 23: It's a bit funny, isn't it. Why have you got

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Speaker 23: the Prime Minister standing by a backbencher saying he loves

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Speaker 23: this as a member's bill. If he thinks it's so cool,

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Speaker 23: why doesn't he just make it a government bill and

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Speaker 23: do it very cool?

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Speaker 3: But given it isn't, why don't would you stand behind it?

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Speaker 23: We think it's pretty, it's all right. I want to

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Speaker 23: take a better look at it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want you had a better look at it

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Speaker 3: in theory? Would would you back.

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Speaker 23: It in theory?

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Speaker 5: Good?

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Speaker 23: But the problem we've got is implementation and that's what's Australia.

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Speaker 23: His head that it's great, how.

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Speaker 3: Are you going to it doesn't work? Market doesn't work.

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Speaker 3: Have you told Catherine when it doesn't work, Well, look.

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Speaker 23: There in schools. Let's look at the I go into

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Speaker 23: a bunch of high schools. They've all got their laptops out,

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Speaker 23: and you're missing in each other like crazy on their laptops,

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Speaker 23: not on their phones now because phone's got bat So

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Speaker 23: like we need to look at if it's implemented, is

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Speaker 23: it actually going to work and make it safer or

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Speaker 23: is this just a bumper sticker that makes parents feel

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Speaker 23: okay for a while, and then none of the army.

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Speaker 3: Well said, well said, I'm loving you more and more

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Speaker 3: by this segment goes on.

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Speaker 14: Mark you so what Well, the first thing I'd say is, yes,

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Speaker 14: the Prime Minister supports all of his MPs, so seeing

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Speaker 14: them about supporting one of our caucus members is something

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Speaker 14: that a leader should do. Number two, it's somebody that

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Speaker 14: Catherine feels very strongly about as a mother, and she's

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Speaker 14: brought this forward through our caucus, which is a process

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Speaker 14: that all of the parties use, and she's put it

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Speaker 14: forward as a members bill, which is he.

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Speaker 23: You're the government government, you're the government legislation.

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Speaker 14: So Ginny, every single justpit, every single one of our

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Speaker 14: members of caucus has got a private member's bill. That's

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Speaker 14: the way I bring legislation through as well, and it

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Speaker 14: may turn into a government bill. That's not my decision.

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Speaker 14: That will be a decision with the Coalition. But at

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Speaker 14: the moment you've got a really passionate member of Caucus,

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Speaker 14: a Member of Parliament and a mum that has brought

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Speaker 14: this forward. We know that yes, technology has been very

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Speaker 14: positive for us, it's also got some serious negatives and

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Speaker 14: the way it impacts with our young people.

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Speaker 3: All Right, b break more in the moment. Mark Metell,

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Speaker 3: Ginny Anderson fourteen past.

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Speaker 2: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, car

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Speaker 2: it By News.

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Speaker 3: Talksp News Talks seventeen past eight Mark the pay equity

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Speaker 3: thing frustration I have with Brook van Velden in its

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Speaker 3: purest form. You're never going to be able to Jerry

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Speaker 3: Manda gender when it comes to work. So what is

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Speaker 3: it you're trying to achieve? Well, he didn't. He fact

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Speaker 3: checked himself into muting Boomer timing. You're there, Jinny, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm here. What's the matter with them?

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Speaker 23: I'm not sure. I think it's the chubby cheeks again.

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Speaker 3: I think it is. It's just and he'll come back

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Speaker 3: on in a moment. You go, I'm here.

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Speaker 23: Do I get to talk about pea?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 10: You?

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Speaker 3: Because I had a neck. We want a system that's yeah,

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Speaker 3: every time music is he done again, he's doing it again,

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Speaker 3: and he'll boom back anyway. The point is that, yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: just laugh.

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Speaker 14: I was just I was just going to say that

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Speaker 14: at the end of the day, we want a system

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Speaker 14: that is equitable, fear and is sustainable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you haven't got one and you're not going

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Speaker 3: to have one. That's my point this morning. You can't

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Speaker 3: you can't go rest home working mechanic. It's not real.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, it's it's ridiculous that the lowest paid women and

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Speaker 23: you Zealand are going to have it a worse under

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Speaker 23: this legislation, and then they're boasting about it.

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Speaker 1: You've got David c.

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Speaker 23: Can I because you lower it, you make it harder,

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Speaker 23: you make it more difficult. How you change it from

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Speaker 23: seventy percent to sixty percent characters seventy, You change the comparators,

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Speaker 23: how it's compared, You make those ridiculous, You make those

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Speaker 23: listen though, you make it ten years before they can

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Speaker 23: go back and have it reviewed. All of the thirty

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Speaker 23: three claims that were underway are wiped out.

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Speaker 4: Make it.

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Speaker 3: It does not stop pay equality claims.

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Speaker 23: The ones that have been in training for all that

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Speaker 23: time are being wiped out. Thirty three have been absolutely

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Speaker 23: wiped out by that legislation. You have David Seymour boasting

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Speaker 23: that he has saved your budget by saving millions of dollars.

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Speaker 23: Those millions of dollars belong to women working hard in

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Speaker 23: jobs that should pay them more. The listeners to this

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Speaker 23: radio station will have women in those jobs and they

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Speaker 23: need to know that this government has undercut their wages

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Speaker 23: in order to pay for their budget.

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Speaker 3: You Mark, are you guys right behind it? I mean,

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Speaker 3: I get that this is a very act ideological thing.

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Speaker 3: I get that. Are you guys in boots and all?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, we support it because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 14: the system, the way that Laboured set it up, was

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Speaker 14: not sustainable for us as a country. And what Jenny

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Speaker 14: fails to members fails to mention, it's all those women

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Speaker 14: out there that are also as tax payers paying for it.

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Speaker 14: So we have to make sure that so we have

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Speaker 14: to make sure that it is sustainable. It's not government money.

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Speaker 23: You can't afford to work.

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Speaker 14: It's tax payers money, and it's.

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Speaker 23: Not taxpayers money, it's wages of private businesses. Also, it's

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Speaker 23: a whole.

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Speaker 3: Range because a lot of people are employed in the

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Speaker 3: public service, so is Mark.

1512
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Speaker 23: Actually they're not all though. Are you actually saying Mark

1513
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 23: that it is not sustainable for this government to pay

1514
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 23: the lowest paid women workers a fair wage.

1515
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 14: It's not sustainable for this country with the settings that

1516
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 14: you changed, and that is why you said, that's absolutely

1517
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 14: and that is why we have made the changes.

1518
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 4: And that is why certainly from out the complete.

1519
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 3: Is when you say people are worth more, who decides

1520
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 3: And you've decided that mechanics are the same as rest

1521
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 3: home workers, which is absurd, So that needs changing. But

1522
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 3: what you know, some job work is worth what it's worth.

1523
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 4: The comparators are ludicrous, So.

1524
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 23: That's fine if you want to fix that, we're happy

1525
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 23: to have a debate, but do not eradicate thirty three

1526
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 23: claims and do not make.

1527
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 3: It Those claims are on old rules. If you're changing

1528
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 3: the rules, you can't have them some on the old

1529
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 3: rules and some on the new rules, because that's not

1530
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 3: a level playing field.

1531
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 14: Those claims still come forward, they can still come forward.

1532
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 4: He talks about I think you tell me that those

1533
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 4: claims can't progress. Is that what you're saying?

1534
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 3: They progress under a more difficult set of circumstances.

1535
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 14: No resetting to what's what the settings were before, and

1536
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 14: in line with the bill that we brought forward because

1537
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 14: we wanted to make sure that as a national party

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01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 14: that we were recognizing dealing with pe equity. We recognize

1539
01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 14: it's an issue. We want to deal with it with

1540
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 14: all got mums and daughters and everyone else. We want,

1541
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 14: we want it to be feared, and we want it

1542
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 14: to and we will from.

1543
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 3: It's great, isn't it. It's an excellent geney. It's an

1544
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 3: excellent contest of ideas. I get your view, I get

1545
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 3: mark view. It's a good contest of ideas.

1546
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 23: Fix the comparators don't.

1547
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 14: And the reason why is because you keep referring to

1548
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 14: women and driving it back to women.

1549
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 4: And that's right, that's right.

1550
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 14: But you gave an eye roll when you when you

1551
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 14: said that we care just as bit about that, just

1552
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 14: as much.

1553
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 4: As you do.

1554
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 23: Not that actually believe it or not say one thing

1555
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,520
Speaker 23: one as well, just condescending.

1556
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 15: It's just.

1557
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 14: It's not condescen at all. The point putting labels on people.

1558
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 14: It's a minute you lose the debate you try to

1559
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 14: put labels on people. You're completely consistent. It's not condescending.

1560
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 14: It's quite simply the fact that as a country we're

1561
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 14: trying to be really responsible and allow system to be

1562
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 14: that sustainable into the future everyone can have access to it.

1563
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 14: We should all be driving towards play equity and this

1564
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 14: is what this change does.

1565
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 3: All right, brief, Okay, guys, appreciate it, Mark Mitchell, Giny

1566
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 3: and now tell you what I'm interested in is whether

1567
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 3: it moves the needle politically, because it's a hot potato,

1568
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 3: as they say, ginyans and Mark Mitchell for another Wednesday

1569
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Speaker 3: twenty three, The.

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1582
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1584
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1589
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Speaker 3: election although over in Australia is getting really interesting because

1590
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 3: a seat got tipped yesterday. Two in Steve's patch are

1591
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 3: likely to be tipped as well, including Minick Ryan in

1592
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 3: the famed Cou Yong seat she thought she'd won. We're

1593
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 3: not so sure now, So the the wheels are still turning.

1594
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 3: Steve Price with all the details up the news which

1595
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 3: is next here at Newstalk.

1596
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Speaker 2: Zeb The only report you need to start your day

1597
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Speaker 2: togs dead be a.

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Speaker 3: Little bit of quick realist. That news just in from

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Speaker 3: Trade Me. Average asking price for houses down smid zero

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01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 3: point eight percent. This is on March two point six percent.

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01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 23: For the year.

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01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 3: Does that mean much? Probably not. Monthly dart is fairly noisy,

1604
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,759
Speaker 3: as they say, As Andrew Kellaher would say, most regions

1605
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 3: are down just a smidge on the month. Auckland down

1606
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 3: one to one point four in Wellington, one point two

1607
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 3: in Marlborough, seven point four in West Coast. So that'll

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01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 3: be that's the noisy part I was talking about. Doesn't

1609
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 3: really make sense. The best place in the country in

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01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 3: terms of prices asking prices up Taranaki, welcome to the party.

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01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 3: That's about it really, apart froment everyone else's flat twenty

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01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 3: three minutes away.

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01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 2: From nine International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace

1614
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 2: of mind for New Zealand business, which does.

1615
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 3: Rowing e because you'll no I've got my lunch bet

1616
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 3: with Andrew Kellerher. He says five or under as far

1617
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 3: as a percentage rise on house prices this year, I

1618
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 3: say it'll get to five possibly a smitche higher so

1619
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 3: I'm losing currently. Now Steve Price is with us morning mate, Hey,

1620
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 3: good morning, I reckon. What's happening now with the election

1621
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 3: is way more interesting than what happened on Saturday night.

1622
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 3: Talk to me about Bent, Monique and Bradfield.

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01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 18: Look, the Liberal Party who didn't have much to celebrate,

1625
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 18: as you said Saturday night, but they've clawed back in

1626
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 18: a couple of seats, particularly against Teals. Now, just so

1627
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 18: everyone understands, there's two seats in Melbourne in particular, one's

1628
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 18: Goldstein and one is Cuyong. Both inner city, wealthy suburbs.

1629
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 18: Goldstein large Jewish population, Couyong suburbs like Armadale, South Yarra,

1630
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 18: place like that, wealthy, big houses, expensive houses. Both went

1631
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 18: to Teals at the last election three years ago. In

1632
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 18: Cujong it was doctor don't forget to call her doctor

1633
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 18: Monique Ryan. She looks like she's in big trouble, even

1634
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 18: though she stood up on the stage and said they

1635
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 18: night celebrated and started dancing. A merely a Hamer, the

1636
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 18: granddaughter of a former Victorian premier, Sir Rupert Hamer, has

1637
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 18: got a nose in front. Hamer Hall got a nose

1638
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 18: in front and possibly could win. Goldstein's definitely gone to

1639
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 18: the Liberals. Tim Wilsoner used to hold the seat three

1640
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 18: years ago, as managed to beat the former ABCTV journalist

1641
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 18: Zoe Daniel, who is a Teal and won that seat

1642
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 18: last time. So he's got that. He's got that back

1643
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 18: In Sydney a female Liberal candidate by the name of Captarian.

1644
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 18: She's got a nose in front there as well against

1645
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 18: a Teal. So what does that all mean. It means

1646
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 18: the Teal movement, despite the large amounts of money put

1647
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 18: in by Homes of Good sign of Homes of Court,

1648
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 18: are on back foot. And so that gives the Libs

1649
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 18: three more seats, which is good, and they may even

1650
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 18: pick up another one in wa Adam Banner, I mean,

1651
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 18: we've just got to keep our fingers crossed. Yes, But

1652
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 18: now next Monday when I speak to you, one of ours.

1653
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 3: Did the Greens end up with? Is the one I see?

1654
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 3: For the Greens his or if they're gone.

1655
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 18: Gone in the lower House wildly. And look, they're still

1656
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 18: going to hold somewhat balance of power in the upper

1657
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 18: House Senate. But Adam bann Out he's held that since

1658
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 18: twenty ten. He was the victim really of redefining the

1659
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 18: boundaries of that seat. He lost a couple of the

1660
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 18: green typical green suburbs of not fitz Roy and Collingwood

1661
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 18: where people wear sandals and write electric bikes and all

1662
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:22,600
Speaker 18: that sort of stuff. He tot her for dinner and

1663
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 18: he picked up some of Southierra, so he might lose that,

1664
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 18: which would be a great benefit to the whole country.

1665
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 3: A couple of questions, Read the opposition and what's left

1666
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 3: of them. I saw a bloke on the television yesterday

1667
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 3: as a senator from Tasmania. I'd never heard of them,

1668
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 3: but he was laying into them big time. He said

1669
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 3: their polling company was rubbish, they got dud numbers, they

1670
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 3: were sold a pup. We were sending messages saying, alarm bells,

1671
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 3: alarm bells, alarm bells. Head office wasn't listening to us.

1672
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 3: How much acrimony is there?

1673
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 18: Yeah, lots. That was John o'dunham, who have on the

1674
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 18: Sky Show on a regular basis. Pretty smart guy.

1675
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 4: He's a senator.

1676
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 18: He wasn't up for election this time and he said

1677
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 18: TASMANI was basically ignored. There's a huge amount of ill

1678
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 18: will within the Liberals about how the campaign was run.

1679
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 18: Their polling company was no good. So now going to

1680
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 18: choose a leader. The three leading candidates seemed to be

1681
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 18: Angus Taylor, Shadow treasurer. He's probably going to get it,

1682
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 18: although one report this morning has Susan Lay, who was

1683
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 18: the deputy to Peter Dutton, getting the job. Now would

1684
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 18: that be smarter the Liberals to put a female in

1685
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 18: charge of the Liberal Party for the first time? Probably?

1686
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 18: Is she the greatest candidate? Well, she's an interesting woman.

1687
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 18: She's a former commercial pilot born in South Africa. She's

1688
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 18: got lots of spark about her. But I don't know

1689
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 18: whoever gets it's not going to be Prime Minister of

1690
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 18: the country because of the loss. There's at least one

1691
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 18: three year term in opposition, probably two, and so you're

1692
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 18: not going to be PM. And who's going to be

1693
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 18: opposition leader for six years?

1694
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 3: A good question? Tell you what's interesting about elbow for

1695
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 3: a bloke who was against leading into this and what

1696
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 3: you say is probably right. A three termer. It's not

1697
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 3: often you get a three term prime he turns out

1698
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 3: to be and the history books will show if it

1699
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 3: all lasts, one of your great political success stories.

1700
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 18: Yeah, you could only loan him up with John Howard,

1701
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 18: and there's no one in labor that's managed to do that.

1702
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 18: I mean, people idolize GoF Whitland, but he basically ruined

1703
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 18: the country. Bob Hawk is probably the person who you'd

1704
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 18: stand albow next to. And you know, if you said

1705
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 18: I'd be saying that unreal a week ago, I'd say

1706
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 18: you're crazy.

1707
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 3: Tell you what the other interesting thing I found and

1708
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 3: I hadn't thought about it till yesterday. It's the Libs

1709
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 3: that killed them. The coalition. We've got to remember the

1710
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 3: coalitions made of two parties. My understanding was the vote

1711
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 3: for the country side of the equation, the Nats was fine.

1712
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 18: Held up, didn't lie. David Little proud of the leader.

1713
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 18: There's even some suggestion this morning from former WA premier

1714
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 18: that the coalition should actually be flipped on its side.

1715
01:20:58,200 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 3: Exactly.

1716
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 18: They should merge and the Libs put them together and

1717
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,560
Speaker 18: have one party, which is an interesting debate to have.

1718
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 18: I don't believe it will happen, but yep, the NAT's

1719
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,680
Speaker 18: out in the bush. So what the Libs have done

1720
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 18: is they've hollowed out unless they win these two seats

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Speaker 18: and well, and they've hollowed out inner capital cities. They've

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Speaker 18: now lost the outer suburbs and they're basically hanging on

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Speaker 18: by the coattails to people who vote in the Bush.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Interesting Mike Bush speaking of Bush, good bloke, And to

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Speaker 3: be honest, why he would take on the job he's

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Speaker 3: taken on, I don't know. But if anyone can do it,

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01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 3: he can. So you've got yourself a very very good hire.

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Speaker 18: Well that's interesting because I'm going to write a column

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Speaker 18: about this because the leadership of the Victorian police force

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Speaker 18: you and I've took about before, has been pathetic for

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01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 18: a long time. And Mike Bush is walking into a

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Speaker 18: state that's in the middle of a crime crisis, used

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Speaker 18: crime crisis, in particular home invasions, car jackings, and tobacco

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Speaker 18: shops being set on fire every night. I presume he's

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Speaker 18: clever enough to have done his research, Yes, but as

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01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 18: you said, why the hell would you take that job on?

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Speaker 18: On top of all of that, he's got a police

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01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 18: force where the police union believes that those at the

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Speaker 18: top haven't looked after the members on the streets. And

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Speaker 18: he's got to cut two billion out of his budget

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Speaker 18: before he even starts because the state government is so broke.

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Speaker 18: This would be he's a great man, in my opinion,

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01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 18: one of the worst jobs to put your hand up

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Speaker 18: for in the world.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't agree more. By the way, just quickly, r LCT,

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01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 3: which is your luxury car tax is going to go. Now,

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01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 3: explain it to me if you can under elbow. Which

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01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 3: is the part I'm confused about, because your luxury cars

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01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 3: and Australia costs more than they do here, and you

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01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 3: tax people for being successful and wanting to drive a

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01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 3: nice car. In getting rid of it, what what's the

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01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 3: argument for getting rid of it?

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01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 18: They want to do a free trade dealer Europe, and

1755
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 18: so the Europeans say, well, you're punishing us when we

1756
01:22:55,360 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 18: send you Porsches, Ferrari's, BMW's Mercedes. Take that off and

1757
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 18: we'll sit down and talk to you. But if you

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01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 18: don't take that off, and I can talk it as

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01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 18: simple as that, you can get a hard left labor minister.

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01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 18: One of the first things he's going to do is

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01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 18: make it easier for my costing to buy a new Ferrari.

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Speaker 18: I mean I don't quite get it either.

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Speaker 3: God bless them. Nice to see you mate, to see

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Speaker 3: price out of Australia Mondays and Wednesdays, eight forty five.

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Speaker 2: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: by News Talks.

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Speaker 3: A'd be it was entirely predictable that India has gone

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01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 3: at Pakistan in the last couple of moments. Military operation

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01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:36,600
Speaker 3: into Pakistan and Kashmir, of course, came out of the

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01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 3: attack the other day. Measured non esculatory in nature, non esculatory,

1771
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 3: enjoy saying that non esculatory. It's not often you get

1772
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:47,560
Speaker 3: to say that. Anyway, We'll see where that goes. So

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01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 3: it's not a war, but it's a skirmish. And you've

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01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 3: got the Middle East and you've got Ukraine and she

1775
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 3: had a fun world at the moment. By the way,

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Speaker 3: just before we leave Australia, Aliver Heart, which a person

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Speaker 3: who appears on this program for the New Zealand Initiative,

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01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 3: has a very good piece in the Australian newspaper this morning,

1779
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 3: well worth reading. I've seen this movie before. He talks

1780
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 3: of the Australian election and then comes back to New Zealand.

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01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 3: New Zealand's Labour Party swept to power in twenty twenty

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01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,759
Speaker 3: three years later, Labor was unceremoniously ejected. It's the questions

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01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 3: I asked the other day of the various correspondents, what

1784
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 3: chance this all goes to Elbow's head, a Lara Durn's head,

1785
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 3: They go nuts and the next thing you know, the

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01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 3: whole thing is a disaster, he concludes. And it's quite nice.

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01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 3: No matter how overwhelming the majority governments ultimately faced the

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01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 3: most effective constraint the judgment of ordinary citizens. That is

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01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:38,839
Speaker 3: both a frustration and the glory of democracy. Also interesting,

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01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 3: I thought yesterday the polling company for the Liberals got

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01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 3: to Dutton in the campaign, raised the alarm and they said, look,

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01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 3: things aren't going well. Everyone's telling us you lack empathy

1793
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 3: on screen. When you talk they say things like I

1794
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 3: just don't like the guy. He gives me negative vibes.

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01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 3: So that was that ongoing. This is Freshwater who do

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01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 3: the polling. They called it Project to Madura. This is

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01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 3: back in April. And the advice they gave to Dutton

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01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 3: enjoy the campaign with a relaxed, sincere tone, using relatable

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01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,719
Speaker 3: language convey a more relaxed and enthusiastic presence. That signals

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Speaker 3: Dutton's enjoying the campaign and engaging with voters as though

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Speaker 3: that's something you go, Oh is that the problem?

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01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 4: Oh?

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01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 10: Cool?

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01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 3: All right, Well I'll just be not what I am

1805
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 3: and something completely different and that should well go well

1806
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 3: for me. It's hard to believe people get paid money

1807
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:28,560
Speaker 3: to offer advice like that, doesn't it?

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01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 2: Nine to nine The Make Asking Breakfast with the range Rover,

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01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 2: The Lahne News togs Head be I.

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01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 3: Read quite a lengthy report yesterday on whether Elcatrez can

1811
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 3: be reopened. The answers No. Reagan had a look at it,

1812
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 3: and I think that's the lesson. I don't know how

1813
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:45,560
Speaker 3: serious this look was, as look was long enough for

1814
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 3: them to go no, mister Reagan, you can't. And so

1815
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 3: Trump's idea is the same thing that Reagan had, but

1816
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 3: it's too far gone.

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01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 15: As indeed so was he.

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01:25:55,880 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably just as well, given that it's a good

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01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 3: tourist attraction. I think it's a better tourist attraction than

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01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 3: it is a place to hold a legal immigrants. Mike,

1821
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:08,799
Speaker 3: you're losing your housing bet. You can't confuse potential with prospects.

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01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 3: Keep sets in the back row now and can afford

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01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,759
Speaker 3: to be upbeat. Unfortunately, the country is beleagued by hurdles

1824
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 3: that don't seem to be going away as much as

1825
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 3: ac tries and national capitulates, whilst a grinning chippy throws

1826
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 3: peanuts from the gallery. I think you're being overtly negative,

1827
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 3: not completely unrealistically negative, but overtly negative. And it'll be

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01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 3: a close run thing. And if I lose, I won't

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01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:32,639
Speaker 3: lose by much enough I win, I won't win by much.

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01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 3: But I don't think that five percent by the end

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01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 3: of the year is unrealistic. What I am looking forward

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01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:38,679
Speaker 3: to today in an odd way, of these job numbers,

1833
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 3: if just to get the sense that we're done and

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01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:45,560
Speaker 3: so this is the last hall indicator of this calamitous

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01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 3: mess that labor left us with. So inflation's under control,

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01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. Jobs are the last thing. At

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01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 3: five two five three, If that's the number today, if

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01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 3: it surprises to the upside, then we've got trouble. Or

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01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 3: if we get some sort of indication that it's five

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01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 3: to two plus, there's more to come, And of course

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01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 3: the reserve banker back can play by the end of

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01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 3: the month as well, with a couple more cuts to

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01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 3: come before the end of the year. I think all

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01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 3: of those things loaded in and six seven months still

1845
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,560
Speaker 3: ago in the year. I think there's some tailwinds to

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01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:14,759
Speaker 3: come for the latter part of this year. Is my guess,

1847
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 3: my gut, my spidery vibes five minutes away from.

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01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 2: Nine trending now with Chemist Warehouse book in Your flu

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01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 2: Vaccination Today.

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01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 3: Microsoft have launched a couple of things this morning.

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01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 22: This is the Surface Laptop. It's clean, it's powerful and

1852
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 22: tamp gorgeous. If you need the most flexibility, then there's

1853
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 22: the Surface Pro. It's a laptop, it's a tablet, it's

1854
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 22: whatever you need it to be. But they're not just

1855
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 22: a pretty phase underneath serious power. And yes they both

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01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 22: have a touchscreen because seriously, why wouldn't they And with

1857
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 22: Copilot you've got a built in genius.

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01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 3: The female boys great, the others don't use female boys

1859
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 3: is why are they sexist? What happened there is they're

1860
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 3: a pay equity deal at Microsoft. What's happened? Thirteen inch?

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Speaker 5: Do you know?

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Speaker 3: I think I've got a Surface Pro. I think I do.

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01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, but I think it

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01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 3: is thirteen inch Surface Pro laptop. I got a twelve

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01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 3: inch Surface Pro. I don't know what I've got, but

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01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 3: it's one of those things anyway, touch screens. See the

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01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 3: touch screen thing is the MacBooks don't have touch screen.

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01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:14,759
Speaker 3: Can you believe that? Why is that? What's the retionale

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01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 3: behind that? That's the stupidest thing of this.

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Speaker 20: Otherwise they probably stopped selling iPads, I reckonize.

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01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 3: Oh a good point. Yeah, well done there, Glenn Slimmer's

1872
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 3: co pilot. PC's money can buy Copilot, being Microsoft's AI helper.

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01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 3: So what do you got? You can pre order?

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01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 5: Now?

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01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 3: Does anyone pre order? Honestly?

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01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 12: Really?

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01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 3: I mean is that that gripping is your life, that

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01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 3: devoid of anything? You got better pre as opposed to

1879
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 3: just wandering past the shop and going, oh they're there,

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01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 3: now are they? I'll buy one Violet, Ocean and platinum.

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01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 3: So what are you paying? Starts at a couple of

1882
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 3: grand and the surface pro is seventeen ninety nine. Samy's

1883
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 3: written here not bad, but Samy's on very good money,

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01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 3: So I don't know. Samy's not in the real world

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01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:56,680
Speaker 3: in terms of what you know, you and I can

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01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 3: afford in terms of the cost of living crisis. So

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01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 3: Sammy's you know, swan off to buy some Dubai chocolates

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01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 3: and a surface lap pro top, touchy feely whatever he

1889
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 3: is doing. But you know, Sam's out of touch. I

1890
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 3: got I have a word with him because one of

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01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,839
Speaker 3: the things that we pride ourselves on in this program

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01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,560
Speaker 3: is being down with the peeps, and I think just

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01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 3: Sam's lost the plot. Super humble, super humble. I think

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01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 3: Sam's lost the plot on that a little bit. So

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01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 3: we'll have a word with them and see how things go.

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01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 3: The modest ole Mic Hosking Breakfast is what we call it,

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01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 3: super sat down. Don't Mike back tomorrow from Sex Having Days.

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Speaker 2: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

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