1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,827 Speaker 1: from Newstalk. 3 00:00:11,467 --> 00:00:17,067 Speaker 2: Sedb redevelopments of Eden Park deciding against backing the construction 4 00:00:17,547 --> 00:00:20,387 Speaker 2: of a new downtown stadium. They stop short though, of 5 00:00:20,547 --> 00:00:23,827 Speaker 2: backing a full upgrade to eden Park and furthermore said 6 00:00:23,867 --> 00:00:26,187 Speaker 2: they don't want to pay any money towards redeveloping eden 7 00:00:26,187 --> 00:00:28,627 Speaker 2: Park and in fact they don't have any money. The 8 00:00:28,627 --> 00:00:31,907 Speaker 2: government also suggesting it doesn't want to contribute the one 9 00:00:31,987 --> 00:00:36,467 Speaker 2: hundred million Eden Park needs to start its upgrade. Eden 10 00:00:36,507 --> 00:00:39,747 Speaker 2: Park reckons the upgrade will cost around five hundred and 11 00:00:39,907 --> 00:00:43,667 Speaker 2: fifty million. There are suggestions that's very light and that 12 00:00:43,827 --> 00:00:47,747 Speaker 2: it'll actually be closer to one billion dollars. So what 13 00:00:47,787 --> 00:00:50,267 Speaker 2: do we have here? Pretty much a non decision right 14 00:00:50,307 --> 00:00:53,667 Speaker 2: The council said, we back eden Park, but we can't slash, 15 00:00:53,867 --> 00:00:56,987 Speaker 2: won't throw any money at it. We don't back a 16 00:00:57,027 --> 00:00:59,827 Speaker 2: new stadium, say the council, and we probably wouldn't invest 17 00:00:59,827 --> 00:01:01,627 Speaker 2: in that either even if it was to be built. 18 00:01:01,707 --> 00:01:04,467 Speaker 2: So where does it leave us in terms of world 19 00:01:04,507 --> 00:01:09,067 Speaker 2: class sporting facilities for Auckland and simply with places in 20 00:01:09,107 --> 00:01:12,827 Speaker 2: Auckland that are good to watch live sport at rather 21 00:01:12,867 --> 00:01:15,267 Speaker 2: than delve into the politics of this, I wanted to 22 00:01:15,267 --> 00:01:18,827 Speaker 2: get a sports fans view one of the biggest I know, 23 00:01:19,227 --> 00:01:21,947 Speaker 2: Mike Lane, co founder of the Base Brigade, head of 24 00:01:21,987 --> 00:01:27,027 Speaker 2: the Alternative commentary collective, Thanks for crossing brands onto z 25 00:01:27,187 --> 00:01:29,787 Speaker 2: B for us, Mike, How are you no worries? 26 00:01:29,827 --> 00:01:33,107 Speaker 3: Piney Man? Is this the world's most boring non debate 27 00:01:33,187 --> 00:01:37,707 Speaker 3: of all time? God, it's it's like, it is so 28 00:01:37,827 --> 00:01:41,387 Speaker 3: tedious man, Like I guarantee every outside of Auckland listen 29 00:01:41,427 --> 00:01:45,227 Speaker 3: to this, Like who gives this stuff? With a bunch 30 00:01:45,227 --> 00:01:47,627 Speaker 3: of Aucklanders who can't make their mind up, who are 31 00:01:47,707 --> 00:01:51,427 Speaker 3: being held hostage by small minded procrastinators, which Gregor Paul 32 00:01:51,467 --> 00:01:54,827 Speaker 3: mentioned on Friday, And it's frustrating. Man, We suck. I'm 33 00:01:54,827 --> 00:01:57,387 Speaker 3: embarrassed to be in Aucklander. I'm embarrassed to live in Auckland. 34 00:01:57,627 --> 00:02:00,507 Speaker 3: This is this is the worst as a sports fan, 35 00:02:00,987 --> 00:02:03,107 Speaker 3: this is the worst. We're the pits. We suck. 36 00:02:04,307 --> 00:02:05,867 Speaker 2: You'll be pleased I gave you the call to come 37 00:02:05,907 --> 00:02:10,747 Speaker 2: on the show for such a such a tomic No, yeah. 38 00:02:10,227 --> 00:02:13,427 Speaker 3: It's true. Like you look at every other Australasian major 39 00:02:13,467 --> 00:02:19,187 Speaker 3: city in throughout Australia, Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne, Adelaide, Perth. They've 40 00:02:19,227 --> 00:02:22,427 Speaker 3: all got new stadia, they've all got sports precincts. What 41 00:02:22,507 --> 00:02:27,067 Speaker 3: do we got Auckland. Nothing. It's embarrassing, It is embarrassing. 42 00:02:27,547 --> 00:02:30,987 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's going to happen in my lifetime. Piny, 43 00:02:31,067 --> 00:02:32,867 Speaker 3: this is this, This is the stage I've got to 44 00:02:32,987 --> 00:02:35,067 Speaker 3: a forty six year old man. I don't think I'm 45 00:02:35,107 --> 00:02:37,027 Speaker 3: ever going to see a new stadium built in Auckland 46 00:02:37,067 --> 00:02:39,107 Speaker 3: in my lifetime. That's how depressed diam about this. 47 00:02:39,587 --> 00:02:41,547 Speaker 2: That is crazy because I've got a question here for you. 48 00:02:41,707 --> 00:02:43,827 Speaker 2: Can you see a time where a new stadium is 49 00:02:43,907 --> 00:02:46,627 Speaker 2: built on Auckland's waterfront? So clear the answer is not 50 00:02:46,747 --> 00:02:48,347 Speaker 2: for the next fifty years anyway. 51 00:02:48,947 --> 00:02:52,347 Speaker 3: No, I just don't get it. There's just no no vision. 52 00:02:52,547 --> 00:02:55,427 Speaker 3: There's no vision whatsoever. If you anyone who lives in 53 00:02:55,467 --> 00:02:59,867 Speaker 3: Auckland knows that a downtown stadium would change the face, 54 00:02:59,907 --> 00:03:03,107 Speaker 3: it would revolutionize downtown Auckland. You think of the bars, 55 00:03:03,387 --> 00:03:06,387 Speaker 3: the restaurants, the hotels, all in the stones throw. I 56 00:03:06,387 --> 00:03:08,307 Speaker 3: think about a Friday night where you could leave work, 57 00:03:08,627 --> 00:03:11,187 Speaker 3: have a beer, grab a meal, go watch some football, 58 00:03:11,307 --> 00:03:14,587 Speaker 3: some rugby, some rugby league, you know, down at the 59 00:03:14,627 --> 00:03:16,707 Speaker 3: waterfront and then crews home. That's not part of our 60 00:03:17,107 --> 00:03:18,907 Speaker 3: routine at the moment. Our routine at the moment is 61 00:03:19,107 --> 00:03:20,867 Speaker 3: how we're going to get to part, how we're going 62 00:03:20,907 --> 00:03:23,267 Speaker 3: to get to Mount Smart, how we're going to get home. 63 00:03:23,547 --> 00:03:26,067 Speaker 3: You're going to basically a whole day. There's no routine, 64 00:03:26,107 --> 00:03:29,187 Speaker 3: there's no habit here and it we're going to require 65 00:03:29,867 --> 00:03:32,227 Speaker 3: someone with a lot of vision and a lot of 66 00:03:32,347 --> 00:03:34,387 Speaker 3: nuts to do it, and unfortunately at the moment, no 67 00:03:34,547 --> 00:03:38,067 Speaker 3: one has got the actual gumption to do it. We'd 68 00:03:38,187 --> 00:03:40,067 Speaker 3: rather build a two billion dollar in a city rail 69 00:03:40,107 --> 00:03:44,547 Speaker 3: link that goes nowhere. I don't know, pointing it's going 70 00:03:44,587 --> 00:03:47,067 Speaker 3: to have to take bringing Maybe we make it a 71 00:03:47,907 --> 00:03:49,907 Speaker 3: part of a Russian Oli gap on to live in 72 00:03:49,947 --> 00:03:52,347 Speaker 3: New Zealand. Maybe maybe part of that is you're going 73 00:03:52,387 --> 00:03:53,707 Speaker 3: to have to build a stadium then you can go 74 00:03:53,787 --> 00:03:56,267 Speaker 3: live up the Bay of Island somewhere. That should be well, 75 00:03:56,347 --> 00:03:58,227 Speaker 3: maybe that's a concession we should have because it's going 76 00:03:58,267 --> 00:04:00,787 Speaker 3: to have to take a Bill Foley. It's going to 77 00:04:00,867 --> 00:04:03,227 Speaker 3: have to take a billion here. Look, get the mow braids, 78 00:04:03,307 --> 00:04:04,867 Speaker 3: come on, what are they up to? It's going to 79 00:04:05,067 --> 00:04:07,387 Speaker 3: take someone like that to you instigate this because I'm 80 00:04:07,387 --> 00:04:09,347 Speaker 3: afraid it's not going to come from the council and 81 00:04:09,427 --> 00:04:10,827 Speaker 3: it's not going to come from the government. 82 00:04:11,707 --> 00:04:13,787 Speaker 2: We'll get to the mobrasen Bill folly in the moment 83 00:04:13,827 --> 00:04:15,707 Speaker 2: and what they want to do at Western Springs. But 84 00:04:16,027 --> 00:04:18,387 Speaker 2: so is it the access? Is it the getting there? 85 00:04:18,427 --> 00:04:21,027 Speaker 2: Once you get there? Eden Park? What do most people 86 00:04:21,107 --> 00:04:22,907 Speaker 2: think about watching sport at Eden Park? 87 00:04:22,987 --> 00:04:26,667 Speaker 3: Do you think, oh, look rugby, it's not bad. It's 88 00:04:26,707 --> 00:04:29,027 Speaker 3: not bad. Look I don't hate on Eden Park. I've 89 00:04:29,027 --> 00:04:30,707 Speaker 3: had some great times at Eaton Park. The people that 90 00:04:30,827 --> 00:04:33,187 Speaker 3: run it are amazing. The fact they turned around three 91 00:04:33,267 --> 00:04:38,027 Speaker 3: codes in four days the other weekend. It's great. But cricket, 92 00:04:38,307 --> 00:04:41,267 Speaker 3: no thanks, Test match cricket. When was the last time 93 00:04:41,307 --> 00:04:43,067 Speaker 3: there was a tet math test match played in Auckland. 94 00:04:43,107 --> 00:04:46,107 Speaker 3: I can't remember what, fifteen ten years ago? Maybe yeah, 95 00:04:46,827 --> 00:04:49,747 Speaker 3: you know, as a cricket fan, move out of Auckland 96 00:04:49,787 --> 00:04:51,947 Speaker 3: because you're not going to see much international cricket. But 97 00:04:52,787 --> 00:04:54,867 Speaker 3: the thing was Eden Park. It's a great stadium. I 98 00:04:55,027 --> 00:04:57,147 Speaker 3: like it. It's just in the wrong place. Finally, it 99 00:04:57,307 --> 00:05:00,467 Speaker 3: is in the wrong place it needs. It's not serviced 100 00:05:00,507 --> 00:05:03,867 Speaker 3: by any major bars or hotels. They say you can 101 00:05:03,907 --> 00:05:07,227 Speaker 3: catch a train straight there. Yeah, willing to hang around 102 00:05:07,267 --> 00:05:09,947 Speaker 3: for kind of an hour to get home. That's fine, 103 00:05:10,427 --> 00:05:14,387 Speaker 3: But I don't know's it serves a purpose. At the moment. 104 00:05:14,427 --> 00:05:17,107 Speaker 3: It's the best we've got and we're kind of living 105 00:05:17,147 --> 00:05:18,987 Speaker 3: with it when we don't have to. We don't, like 106 00:05:19,067 --> 00:05:22,547 Speaker 3: I said, with the only Australasian city without a modern stadium. 107 00:05:24,387 --> 00:05:26,867 Speaker 2: How do people feel about Mount Smart? Same thing? Is 108 00:05:26,907 --> 00:05:28,907 Speaker 2: it just getting there? Yeah? 109 00:05:28,947 --> 00:05:31,707 Speaker 3: I look Mount Smart if you took it, if you 110 00:05:31,747 --> 00:05:33,667 Speaker 3: took a visitor from overseas, because I just came back 111 00:05:33,707 --> 00:05:35,827 Speaker 3: from you called me in Vegas. I can't hardly reader 112 00:05:35,827 --> 00:05:37,467 Speaker 3: with the phone call. But I did go to a 113 00:05:37,507 --> 00:05:40,067 Speaker 3: couple of ice hockey games over there, and obviously we 114 00:05:40,187 --> 00:05:43,907 Speaker 3: went to Aldi Stadium for the Warriors. Man, that's next level, 115 00:05:44,267 --> 00:05:46,747 Speaker 3: like in terms of the stadium there, in terms of 116 00:05:46,787 --> 00:05:48,587 Speaker 3: what you can do in terms of the facilities. If 117 00:05:48,587 --> 00:05:52,427 Speaker 3: you took someone to Mount Smart, mildly embarrassing. And I've 118 00:05:52,467 --> 00:05:55,187 Speaker 3: got a very faithful group of fans in the AFC 119 00:05:55,507 --> 00:05:57,907 Speaker 3: and the Warriors. But if you take a step back 120 00:05:57,987 --> 00:06:01,307 Speaker 3: and look at that stadium, it's not great. And it's 121 00:06:01,347 --> 00:06:05,907 Speaker 3: in the middle of industrial Penrose, Southwunkland again, no bars, 122 00:06:06,587 --> 00:06:10,867 Speaker 3: no restaurants, no hotels. It's not serving anyone downtown. It's 123 00:06:10,907 --> 00:06:15,547 Speaker 3: not helping the city out at all. So look, they're 124 00:06:15,587 --> 00:06:18,947 Speaker 3: not great. I'm frustrated. You could probably tell Pioneers a 125 00:06:18,987 --> 00:06:22,267 Speaker 3: sports fan, it's frustrating to watch all this unfold and 126 00:06:22,787 --> 00:06:25,627 Speaker 3: it's you just end up yelling at the clouds. I 127 00:06:25,667 --> 00:06:27,427 Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know how we're going to fix it. 128 00:06:27,467 --> 00:06:29,107 Speaker 3: I don't know how what's going to happen. We'll probably 129 00:06:29,107 --> 00:06:30,947 Speaker 3: still be you'll ring me next year. We'll talk about this, 130 00:06:31,747 --> 00:06:33,547 Speaker 3: and the year after and the year after, and we'll 131 00:06:33,587 --> 00:06:35,707 Speaker 3: probably you could just press to repeat on my interview 132 00:06:35,947 --> 00:06:36,907 Speaker 3: who it'll be the same thing. 133 00:06:37,627 --> 00:06:41,867 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so it feels like you're right, it needs vision, 134 00:06:41,947 --> 00:06:46,027 Speaker 2: it needs somebody. But the i mean billionaire oligarchs or 135 00:06:46,067 --> 00:06:48,867 Speaker 2: those with the resources to do something about this are 136 00:06:48,947 --> 00:06:52,347 Speaker 2: pretty thin on the ground, aren't they. So I mean, 137 00:06:52,387 --> 00:06:53,947 Speaker 2: you look at a place You've mentioned a couple of 138 00:06:53,987 --> 00:06:56,227 Speaker 2: places where you go, and Melbourne's a good example. There's 139 00:06:56,267 --> 00:06:59,187 Speaker 2: some magnificent venues to go and watch sport over there, 140 00:06:59,267 --> 00:07:01,347 Speaker 2: and most, most of not all of that has been 141 00:07:01,627 --> 00:07:04,187 Speaker 2: funded by state government. Right, they've decided, Okay, we want 142 00:07:04,227 --> 00:07:06,907 Speaker 2: to get people here. We'll put money into to venues 143 00:07:07,187 --> 00:07:10,107 Speaker 2: so they'll come. It just doesn't feel likely to you 144 00:07:10,227 --> 00:07:12,067 Speaker 2: that there will be any of that sort of vision 145 00:07:12,427 --> 00:07:13,227 Speaker 2: in the near future. 146 00:07:13,827 --> 00:07:15,587 Speaker 3: Oh God, it's going to have to take someone special 147 00:07:16,387 --> 00:07:18,667 Speaker 3: in terms of counsel to have the vision to do it, 148 00:07:19,067 --> 00:07:21,427 Speaker 3: because it will it will pay dividends, it will it 149 00:07:21,507 --> 00:07:23,667 Speaker 3: will pay dividends in central UK. And if you have 150 00:07:23,787 --> 00:07:26,147 Speaker 3: someone who comes in with a bit of vision, I 151 00:07:26,307 --> 00:07:28,467 Speaker 3: feel like it's probably going to have to be a 152 00:07:28,627 --> 00:07:31,347 Speaker 3: kind of private public partnership. I think there's going to 153 00:07:31,427 --> 00:07:33,307 Speaker 3: have to be someone like a Bill Foley. He'll go, hey, 154 00:07:33,307 --> 00:07:37,507 Speaker 3: I'll help out here to a degree. But who's going 155 00:07:37,547 --> 00:07:39,667 Speaker 3: to benefit the most from having a new stadia in 156 00:07:39,747 --> 00:07:43,147 Speaker 3: a sports precinc in downtown Auckland. It's going to be Auckland. 157 00:07:43,307 --> 00:07:45,627 Speaker 3: It's going to be all the hospitality, it's going to 158 00:07:45,667 --> 00:07:50,067 Speaker 3: be the tourism everything else. So they have to front 159 00:07:50,187 --> 00:07:52,827 Speaker 3: up and be involved and invest in the city. So 160 00:07:53,467 --> 00:07:55,907 Speaker 3: they say they want to invest in infrastructure, Oh whatever, 161 00:07:56,107 --> 00:07:59,147 Speaker 3: I mean. The Inner City rail Link is the biggest 162 00:07:59,187 --> 00:08:01,987 Speaker 3: joke that's ever been It's caused billions of dollars. They 163 00:08:02,067 --> 00:08:04,587 Speaker 3: can't even mow the burns. And as Gregor Paul mentioned 164 00:08:04,587 --> 00:08:07,787 Speaker 3: in his article, so you know I'm moving to christ Church. 165 00:08:07,947 --> 00:08:10,587 Speaker 3: You know what, that's the new That is the new 166 00:08:10,747 --> 00:08:13,147 Speaker 3: home of sport in New Zealand. It is. It's got 167 00:08:13,187 --> 00:08:16,267 Speaker 3: Hagley Oval when Takaha has finished, it's going to be 168 00:08:16,307 --> 00:08:19,667 Speaker 3: a covered stadium, perfect for football, built for rugby. You're 169 00:08:19,747 --> 00:08:22,187 Speaker 3: right on the sideline, You're not thirty meters back like 170 00:08:22,307 --> 00:08:25,027 Speaker 3: you are at Sky Stadium in Wellington. You know it's 171 00:08:25,147 --> 00:08:26,947 Speaker 3: it's going to be the news home of sport in 172 00:08:27,027 --> 00:08:27,507 Speaker 3: New Zealand. 173 00:08:27,547 --> 00:08:27,947 Speaker 1: And that's it. 174 00:08:28,387 --> 00:08:30,747 Speaker 3: That's it. I'm out. I'm done. I'm moving a christ Church. 175 00:08:30,787 --> 00:08:33,227 Speaker 3: I never thought i'd say that. I'll still support the chief. 176 00:08:35,307 --> 00:08:37,547 Speaker 2: Well, I don't have any more questions. Do you have 177 00:08:37,627 --> 00:08:38,387 Speaker 2: any more comments? 178 00:08:39,787 --> 00:08:41,747 Speaker 3: Sorry? Pinney, you can tell you've rung the wrong person 179 00:08:41,867 --> 00:08:45,467 Speaker 3: on this one. I have. You know, even the choice 180 00:08:45,507 --> 00:08:48,787 Speaker 3: of going to those two options, Key Park, they're completely 181 00:08:48,827 --> 00:08:52,627 Speaker 3: ignored the whin you'red quarter, the Tank Farm option, which 182 00:08:52,907 --> 00:08:56,467 Speaker 3: was the only pitch in there that took into count cricket, 183 00:08:57,227 --> 00:09:00,827 Speaker 3: and using Victoria Park as a cricket option, as making 184 00:09:00,907 --> 00:09:03,107 Speaker 3: that part of the sport's precinct with a stadium on 185 00:09:03,147 --> 00:09:05,507 Speaker 3: the Tank Farm, a smaller ten thousand seat stadium for 186 00:09:05,587 --> 00:09:09,667 Speaker 3: basketball ten and then building a walkway down to Victoria 187 00:09:09,747 --> 00:09:13,067 Speaker 3: Park where you could host international cricket on Victoria Park. 188 00:09:13,107 --> 00:09:15,427 Speaker 3: They were the only ones that fought through the whole vision, 189 00:09:15,827 --> 00:09:18,707 Speaker 3: yet they were ignored in favor of Key Park, which, 190 00:09:19,067 --> 00:09:21,067 Speaker 3: let's be honest, is never going to happen with the 191 00:09:21,147 --> 00:09:23,187 Speaker 3: fact they had to move railway tracks or build over 192 00:09:23,307 --> 00:09:27,867 Speaker 3: railway tracks. So I don't know this whole We've on 193 00:09:27,947 --> 00:09:31,627 Speaker 3: our Agenda podcast, Pony, we've banned any more discussions on 194 00:09:31,707 --> 00:09:35,547 Speaker 3: the Autumn stadium debate because it's just so tedious, it's 195 00:09:35,587 --> 00:09:38,707 Speaker 3: so boring, and nothing's ever going to happen, and it's 196 00:09:38,787 --> 00:09:41,147 Speaker 3: so frustrating as a sports stand to sit back and 197 00:09:41,227 --> 00:09:42,107 Speaker 3: watch the shambles. 198 00:09:42,907 --> 00:09:45,827 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad the embargo doesn't doesn't extend to News 199 00:09:45,827 --> 00:09:49,227 Speaker 2: Talks MB's weekend sports show, Mike, it's been it's been 200 00:09:49,427 --> 00:09:53,067 Speaker 2: educational listening to your mate Andy, entertaining and in many 201 00:09:53,107 --> 00:09:55,507 Speaker 2: ways quite frustrating as well. So I'll tell my friends 202 00:09:55,547 --> 00:09:58,987 Speaker 2: in christ Church to expect your inquiry into some of 203 00:09:59,027 --> 00:10:01,347 Speaker 2: the some of the better real estate in that area 204 00:10:01,467 --> 00:10:04,067 Speaker 2: soon and hopefully we can hopefully we can catch up 205 00:10:04,067 --> 00:10:04,507 Speaker 2: again soon. 206 00:10:04,907 --> 00:10:06,507 Speaker 3: Yeah, I go, Ma, We're coming to christ here for 207 00:10:06,547 --> 00:10:07,307 Speaker 3: Cavin christ Cherch. 208 00:10:07,307 --> 00:10:11,987 Speaker 2: Watch out, Mike Lane. What a legend of a man, 209 00:10:12,187 --> 00:10:15,907 Speaker 2: head of the alternative commentary collective forthright in his views, 210 00:10:15,947 --> 00:10:19,507 Speaker 2: extremely honest, authentic, and makes a lot of scenes. Doesn't 211 00:10:19,547 --> 00:10:21,947 Speaker 2: He makes a heck of a lot of scenes. 212 00:10:22,787 --> 00:10:25,947 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 213 00:10:26,067 --> 00:10:29,347 Speaker 1: to news Talks at b weekends from midday, or follow 214 00:10:29,387 --> 00:10:30,987 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.