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Speaker 1: Bryan Bridge on Hither Duplicy Ellen Drive with One New

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon at seven after four. I'm Ryan and for

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Speaker 2: Heather this week. Great to have your company on the

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Speaker 2: show this afternoon. Erica Stanford on the new cash for classrooms.

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Speaker 2: We have got everyone recognizing Palestine. We're in the UK

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Speaker 2: Finance Minister Nicola Willis after six and is bye bye

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Speaker 2: to the dirty imported Indonesian Cole Huntley is going to

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Speaker 2: buy local.

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Speaker 3: Bryan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: So fast Track's got a problem. And you may have

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Speaker 2: noticed this, it's not fast enough. Eight months in only

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Speaker 2: wait for it, two projects have been approved, not even started,

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Speaker 2: just approved. The mining in Tartanaki is still with the

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Speaker 2: sea word consultation aka delayed, and word is that every

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Speaker 2: man and his dog is lining up to have their say,

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Speaker 2: including Mount Tartanaki. Literally quite how you ask a mountain?

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Speaker 2: It's thought some feelings is beyond me. But are we

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Speaker 2: even surprised about this at this point? Shane Zones is

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Speaker 2: mythed He says the EPA, which is looking into all

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Speaker 2: of this stuff, has apparently hired a former forest and

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Speaker 2: bird lawyer to do that. Good luck everybody, All this

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Speaker 2: while we got eight hundred million bucks worth of minerals

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Speaker 2: just sitting there under the ocean. Now, all of this

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Speaker 2: could have been avoided if the government didn't cave to

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Speaker 2: the media and the legal scholars and the green mafia

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Speaker 2: and just give the politicians all the power in the

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Speaker 2: the consultation are actually by design. In Auckland, you've got

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Speaker 2: Eden Park. Eden Park, they tell us, is choking under regulation.

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Speaker 2: So why not use your new RMA superpowers to unshackle it?

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Speaker 2: I ask, well, you can't. Why you have to consult first?

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Speaker 2: Why because again the government specifically designed the lord change

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Speaker 2: they want to put it in South Tartanaki. One local

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Speaker 2: Hapuo is taking their opposition to this to the United Nations.

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Speaker 2: You can see the problem here, can't you. This country

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Speaker 2: is its own worst enemy. We bitch and moan about

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Speaker 2: manufacturing jobs disappearing, and rightly so. But as soon as

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Speaker 2: it's time to do something about it, to create something

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Speaker 2: slow it down, we delay. So either we accept that

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Speaker 2: you can't have everything for nothing, and that creating new

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Speaker 2: or we accept that actually we're poor and happy to

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Speaker 4: Brian Bridge collor Josh lay Since last week, just like

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Speaker 4: we always talked about, you're so excite.

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Speaker 2: The numbers text would love your feedback. This afternoon, just

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Speaker 2: gone nine after four. If all goes to plan, you

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Speaker 2: could be using a digital driver's license by the end

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Speaker 2: of the year, no more physical license and this would

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Speaker 2: be stored on a government app. Digital Services Minister Judicon

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Speaker 2: says quote. The main thing is to not stuff it

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Speaker 2: all up. Paul Spain's the CEO of Grilla Tech with

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Speaker 2: me this afternoon. Paul good, are you Ryan? Good to

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Speaker 2: have you on the show. How hard is this? What

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Speaker 5: Well, there's losing losing our valuable data. I think you know,

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Speaker 2: They've done this in New South Wales apparently very successfully,

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Speaker 2: Paul, on that basis, will you keep your physical license

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Speaker 2: if you get the option.

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Speaker 5: Look, I'm always a big proponent for leveraging technology where

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Speaker 2: Get my head around it.

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Speaker 5: Reality is probably all of our driver's license data is

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Speaker 2: under the proposed changes with the digital licenses, does that

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Speaker 2: You would still have the option. You would always have

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Speaker 2: the option, as I understand it, to have a physical license, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: I have my driving license on my phone fifteen years

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Speaker 2: News TALKSB seventeen minutes after four, all very well to

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Speaker 2: say that you're going to recognize Palestine. The Aussies have

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Speaker 2: done it, the Brits have done it, the Canadians have

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Speaker 2: done it, and they've all done it in a concerted effort.

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Speaker 2: But what are you actually recognizing who's in charge? They're

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Speaker 2: talking about bilateral relations You can't go through the UN

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Speaker 2: mandate for that. They don't have it. So you're talking

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Speaker 2: about a bilateral relationship between Palestine, whatever that is, and

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Speaker 2: your country. Who are you recognizing? We've got an expert

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Speaker 2: Jason Pine with us Jason Good Afternoon, Get I right Hey,

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Speaker 2: Liam Lawson, So started third finished fifth.

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Speaker 7: Good, yeah, good, really good. It seems as though you've

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Speaker 2: Absolutely and this best ever medal hall for US at

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Speaker 2: the World Athletic Champs. I mean fantastic to watch, fantastic result.

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Speaker 2: Is it too early to say this means good things

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Speaker 7: I mean LA does seem an awfully long way away

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Speaker 7: know these are off the podium, Ryan, but you know

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Speaker 7: the Commonwealth Games next year, of course, then another World

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Speaker 2: Brilliant stuff. Jason, Thank you, Jason Pines, forts talk host

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Speaker 2: Stockton Mine in the South Island, big protest. Those weird

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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Ryan Bridge on

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Speaker 2: Four twenty two. Ryan. The digital license thing year Nah,

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Speaker 2: says Graham, seems like a solution to a non existent problem. Actually,

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Speaker 2: lots of people are saying that, Ryan, can you not

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, five minutes away from five year on news Talk,

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on news dogs.

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Speaker 9: Our receivir said, Father, forgive them for they not know

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Speaker 11: That such a thing happens. But Charlie is bigger today

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Speaker 1: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 2: Twenty two away from five OLI Pedison six pr PERS

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Speaker 2: So what's the justification for Australian recognizing Palestine's statehood?

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Speaker 14: Well, the Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi believes that this will

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Speaker 14: I highly doubt that, with all due respect to the

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Speaker 14: it is just fascinating at the moments when the Prime

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the in game for Australia now? The optus,

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Speaker 14: Stephen Rue has really handled this appallingly on a number

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Speaker 14: Triple zero telephone number. He did it at about six

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Speaker 14: Nobody had opted had actually informed anybody within the government,

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Speaker 14: So when Stephen Rude made this statement on Friday afternoon

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Speaker 12: So look, Stephen, who's only been in the job for

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Speaker 14: Optice has gone from controversy to controversy after the data

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Speaker 12: He has been asked about his future, saying it's not

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Speaker 14: It is about the lives that have been lost and

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Speaker 12: So I don't see how Stephen rue survives this.

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Speaker 14: But a terrible example of public relations and communications. When

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Speaker 12: And I kind of get the communications right.

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Speaker 14: Fine print they wanted the all, but it's going to

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Speaker 14: be the e bikes that have be modified. Or if

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Speaker 14: you've got a normal pedal bike and you put a

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Speaker 14: little motor on it, that won't be allowed on You

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Speaker 14: can get a fine of eleven hundred bucks if you

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Speaker 14: are caught bringing one of these under the trains. But

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Speaker 14: banned soon from trains. Imagine being a train guard. All

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've got to figure out who's modified, who's

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Speaker 2: GI wired them or who's Yeah, it sounds like a nightmere. Thanks,

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Speaker 2: Olli Peterson, our Aussie correspondent. Time eteen away from six.

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Speaker 2: We'll do a quick little French, but we'll do a

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Speaker 2: quick little India bit starting with India tax cuts coming

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Speaker 2: from today. Congratulations are Mody is countering Trump and his tariffs?

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Speaker 2: Remember they got fifty percent, thank you Donald Trump. So

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Speaker 2: he is mody cutting GST basically over there. So staples

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Speaker 2: like milk and bread, life medical insurance, life saving drugs,

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Speaker 2: they will all become tax free. They have massive consumption

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Speaker 2: taxes over in India. Small cars, televisions, air condition Your

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Speaker 2: tax will drop from twenty eight percent to eighteen percent.

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Speaker 2: Hair oil, toilet soap, shampoo all taxed at a marginal

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Speaker 2: five percent instead of twelve or even eighteen percent for

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Speaker 2: some of those basic items. So fill your boots. They

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Speaker 2: reckon it'll boost GDP. And they've got a big festive

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Speaker 2: holiday coming up where everyone goes out and buys stuff. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: they're hoping they'll buy twice as much as the tax

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Speaker 2: comes down. To France, and they've got a big a

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Speaker 2: problem with debt in France, they have well, they have

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Speaker 2: many problems, many and many problems in France, chewing through

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Speaker 2: the prime ministers can't pass a budget. Parliament divided into

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Speaker 2: thirds left right center. No one can decide on a

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Speaker 2: budget anyway. No, this is the richest man in Europe.

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Speaker 2: I think guy who owns Moway and Louis Vuitton founded

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Speaker 2: a bunch of luxury good companies. He's come out swinging

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Speaker 2: said to be the end of France. He says it

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Speaker 2: would basically kill the economy. You'd get a two percent

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Speaker 2: million euros. He would have to He estimates he'd have

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Speaker 2: to pay billion euros based on his net worth. And

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Speaker 2: this is the problem because there are two different estimates

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Speaker 2: for how much revenue this tax would pay to fill

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Speaker 2: the gap left by the extravagant spending of the French state.

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Speaker 2: He said, either you would get twenty billion euros or

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Speaker 2: you would get five billion euros. Twenty billion if all

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Speaker 2: the rich people stayed, five billion if all the rich

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Speaker 2: people leave, And therein lies your problem. Five to five

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Speaker 2: newstalks Zaid b will get to politics with Azaria.

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Speaker 3: Next politics with centric credit. Check your customers and get payments.

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Speaker 2: Thirtaty thirteen to five News Talks said, be rhyme with you,

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Speaker 2: Heather Away this week. Nice to have your company. Bill.

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Speaker 2: I see your text about the coal mine and Huntley

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Speaker 2: and how we're going to power it and the fact

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Speaker 2: we're no longer going to be getting Indonesian coal. I

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Speaker 2: see your text and we will speak to bt Mining

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Speaker 2: about all of this. After sex. You can be reached assured. Right,

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Speaker 2: let's go to Azaria Housingior political reporter of for News Talks.

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Speaker 2: You be, Azaria, Good.

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Speaker 15: Evening, good evening, Good to be with you, Good to

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Speaker 15: be with you.

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Speaker 7: Two.

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Speaker 2: Now, everyone's well, everyone but America recognizing Palestine as a

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Speaker 2: state and US Winston still pondering.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, so that is the big question. Will New Zealand

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Speaker 15: recognize a Palestinian state? As you say, Foreign Minister Winston

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Speaker 15: Peters is in New York at the United Nations Leaders

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Speaker 15: Week that's ahead of the UN General Assembly, and mister

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Speaker 15: Peters is expected to make New Zealand's position on potential

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Speaker 15: formal recognition of a Palestinian state clear at that UN meeting.

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Speaker 15: As you say, in terms of our allies, we're seeing

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Speaker 15: quite a lot of progress from other countries on this.

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Speaker 15: British Prime Minister Sir Kiir Starmer has announced his government

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Speaker 15: does support a state of Palestine.

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Speaker 16: Of the growing horror in the Middle East, we are

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Speaker 16: acting to keep alive the possibility of peace and a

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Speaker 16: two state solution that means a safe and secure Israel

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Speaker 16: alongside a viable Palestinian state at the moment, we have neither.

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Speaker 15: But arguably even more important for New Zealand is Australia.

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Speaker 15: They are making the same move and.

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Speaker 17: This recognition being announced today in sync with our international partners,

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Speaker 17: the United Kingdom and Canada, means that three of the

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Speaker 17: Five Eyes nations are all making this decision today.

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Speaker 15: And interesting that he spoke about the Five Eyes countries

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Speaker 15: there as another Five Eyes country is New Zealand. So

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Speaker 15: the two Anthony Albanezi, the Ossie Prime Minister referring to

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Speaker 15: their New Zealand and the United States, the latter very

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Speaker 15: firm in its support of Israel, and speaking about israel,

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Speaker 15: It's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says, quote, I have a

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Speaker 15: clear message to those leaders who are recognizing a Palestinian

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Speaker 15: state after the horrendous October seven massacre. You are rewarding

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Speaker 15: terror with an enormous prize. It's kind of similar actually

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Speaker 15: to what act Party leader David Seymour has said in

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Speaker 15: the past about the matter, which was really that we

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Speaker 15: should not recognize a country that is holding hostages. But

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Speaker 15: Seymour got a bit of a telling off from Winston

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Speaker 15: Peters about those remarks.

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Speaker 3: That was a good degreement. That's what he's broken.

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Speaker 18: I'm sorry, there's no time for novices.

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Speaker 15: And just today, within the past few hours, the Prime

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Speaker 15: Minister has confirmed he's spoken to act Leader David Seymour

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Speaker 15: after he gave his take on the matter last week.

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Speaker 15: Chris Luxon gave us some detail just now into what

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Speaker 15: that conversation looked like.

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Speaker 8: Winston speaking for us on foreign affairs and he's the

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Speaker 8: one that's leading the our Kevinet through that position. We

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Speaker 8: want to make sure we've got accountable ministers talking to

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Speaker 8: their portfolios and it's important everyone respects those lanes.

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Speaker 15: And this comes after David Seymour got a bit of

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Speaker 15: a telling off for writing a letter to the UN

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Speaker 15: defending the regulatory ste and its bill. But back on

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Speaker 15: the topic of the Middle East, the Coalition will come

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Speaker 15: to one agreement on the matter as a government. That's

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Speaker 15: the expectation. It's also worth noting these countries that have

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Speaker 15: supported formal recognition are making it absolutely clear that any

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Speaker 15: future governance arrangement will not include terrorist group humas that

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Speaker 15: is out of the picture. So yes, New Zealand yet

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Speaker 15: to confirm and finalize its position on whether or not

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Speaker 15: it will make that formal recognition. The Prime Minister, though

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Speaker 15: does say a preliminary decision has been made. Whinston Peters

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Speaker 15: is expected to speak at the UN between Friday and

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Speaker 15: Sunday in terms of making a formal statement on behalf

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Speaker 15: of New Zealand on this matter. All eyes will be

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Speaker 15: on New York as that takes place.

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Speaker 2: All right, Azariah. The more money, bitter, new money and

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Speaker 2: some accelerations is for school property investment, fixing up the classrooms.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, so this is an announcement from today. The Government's

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Speaker 15: announced it will be accelerating four hundred and thirteen million

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Speaker 15: dollars of investment into school infrastructure. It's aimed at improving classrooms,

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Speaker 15: but also has a bit of a silver lining as

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Speaker 15: well in terms of a bit of another detail giving

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Speaker 15: more confidence to builders and tradees. It includes two hundred

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Speaker 15: and fifty five million dollars of improvements on all isolated,

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Speaker 15: small and rural schools, estimated to be about half of

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Speaker 15: state schools. However, some of the budge, some of the

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Speaker 15: funding is from Budget twenty twenty four and is now

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Speaker 15: being able to be delivered. So while there is fifty

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Speaker 15: eight million dollars of new funding, about one hundred million

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Speaker 15: comes from budget twenty four eighty million comes from the

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Speaker 15: Ministry of Education baseline and one hundred and seventy five

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Speaker 15: million is brought forward funding. So Minister of Education Ericus

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Speaker 15: Stanford has made the announcement in Auckland this afternoon with

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Speaker 15: the Prime Minister and she is promising quote, every single

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Speaker 15: school will get something.

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Speaker 10: Well maintained classrooms are not a luxury, they are a

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Speaker 10: must have and they are a foundation for a very

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Speaker 10: strong education system.

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Speaker 15: Plus it's also expected to bring much needed boost for

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Speaker 15: the construction sector.

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Speaker 2: There, Zara, appreciate your time, Issarah. How four politics it

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Speaker 2: is eight minutes away from six from five rather on

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Speaker 2: news talk sav B. Just a lot of techs coming

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Speaker 2: in on Gaza and on Palestine and recognizing Palestine as

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Speaker 2: a state ry. What is the upside to us doing this?

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Speaker 2: And I tend to agree with that. If it was

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Speaker 2: going to say the life or end hunger, you would

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Speaker 2: do it in a heartbeat. But it's not, is it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not going to do that. And Starmar

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Speaker 2: in the UK actually only one in ten Brits agreed

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Speaker 2: with him recognizing Palestine, but he's gone ahead and done

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Speaker 2: it anyway. Media talks about it a lot. You know,

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Speaker 2: the priests chained themselves up to Nicholas office wearing nappings.

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Speaker 2: I mean, for goodness sakes, it's not a vote winner.

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Speaker 2: It's also not going to change much. Israeli exports zero

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Speaker 2: point three percent, by the way, So do they care

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Speaker 2: what we think? Probably not? And is it going to

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Speaker 2: change the world? No, will we do it? I don't

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Speaker 2: think so. Seven to five News Talk SeeDB.

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the Mic Hosking breakfast.

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Speaker 2: My minister is well as do you feel a bit

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Speaker 2: and battled given what happened last week?

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know where that all came from.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I know, I know name from zero point

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Speaker 8: I came from zero point nine to two growth. But

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Speaker 8: I think the reality is it's been no doubt about it,

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Speaker 8: very just got quarter.

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Speaker 3: That is a function of just uncertainty.

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Speaker 8: Course with those Trump tariffs previous six months we were

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Speaker 8: growing strongly. We're growing again now we'll grow as stronger

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Speaker 8: as we go into Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Just tick this off for me. Will we be hearing

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Speaker 3: about the Reserve Bank government this week? Will be very shortly? Okay,

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Speaker 3: and you know who it is? Yes, you were personally

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Speaker 3: happy with him.

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Speaker 2: Her Yes, and we'll be transformational for the bank and

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Speaker 2: so much and we'll have.

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Speaker 8: A really good governor.

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Speaker 2: Back tomorrow at six am, the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 2: Rain Drover Newstalk z B four to five News Talk said,

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Speaker 2: be more bad news for the economy, albeit backwards looking

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Speaker 2: bad news. So does it really matter anymore? Well, it

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Speaker 2: did then and it still does. But just so that

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Speaker 2: you know, it's quarter two. This is the ASB investor

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Speaker 2: confidence survey fell to its lowest level since COVID, so

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Speaker 2: not great news. It dropped from nine percent for the

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Speaker 2: March quarter to just one percent for June. This was

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Speaker 2: on the back of the Trump tariffs. Of course, housing

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Speaker 2: market not picking up, which we wanted to, so not

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Speaker 2: a surprise, but nonetheless concerning. We'll talk to Nikola Willis

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Speaker 2: about that after six o'clock. After five Palestine and this

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Speaker 2: money from Erica Stanford for the classrooms, We'll ask how

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Speaker 2: much is new and when.

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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story, it's Ryan Bridge.

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Speaker 1: If I hither dupers Ellen dry with one New Zealand

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Speaker 1: coverage like no one else.

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Speaker 3: News Talk SIDB.

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Speaker 2: Good eating seven after five you're on news Talk, said be.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to Erica Stamford on this money for classrooms

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Speaker 2: in just a second. First, though, what does recognizing Palestine

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Speaker 2: actually mean? The Brits, the Aussies, the Canadians, they have

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Speaker 2: all done it. We're mulling the idea. Doctor aas Ktite

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Speaker 2: is with the Australian National University with me. Good evening,

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Speaker 2: Good evening. Tell me I've had a read of Pennywong's statement.

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Speaker 2: What exact or who exactly are they recognizing here?

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Speaker 19: Well, the recognition is for a Palestinian state, and this

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Speaker 19: state is hypothetically, at some point in the future, would

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Speaker 19: exist on the boundaries of the nineteen sixty seven and

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Speaker 19: General Resolution to for two, which was which recognized rather

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Speaker 19: the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip as

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Speaker 19: occupied territory. So this state is a future Palestinian state

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Speaker 19: that would exist on these borders. And for the time being,

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Speaker 19: the recognition is for the Palestinian governance structure, which is

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Speaker 19: represented by the Palestinian Authority, which would then be treated

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Speaker 19: as a state again waiting for a future point where

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Speaker 19: this government would actually turn into a state and have

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Speaker 19: sovereignty over land and territory, and that l being the

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Speaker 19: West Bank, the Gaza Strip as well as East Jerusalem.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so a lot of water to go under a

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Speaker 2: lot of different bridges there in order to get to

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Speaker 2: that point. Given how hypothetical it is, is it just

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Speaker 2: more symbolic?

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Speaker 19: I think the symbolic nature of this is not only

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Speaker 19: because it's a hypothetical future scenario where facts on the

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Speaker 19: ground suggest and point the other way, which is total

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Speaker 19: Israeli control over this area. But the symbolic nature is

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Speaker 19: related to the context that exists today in these territories

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Speaker 19: that I just mentioned. In the West Bank, we are

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Speaker 19: facing and we are witnessing an accelerated rate of displacement

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Speaker 19: as well as Israeli annexation. East Jerusalem was annexed to

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Speaker 19: his role in the nineteen eighties. And in the Gaza

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Speaker 19: Strip we are witnessing what the United Nations and the

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Speaker 19: world's leading international organizations are describing as a genocide as

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Speaker 19: well as ethnic cleansing. So this is the context under

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Speaker 19: which Palestinians live right now, as including Palestinian governance, including

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Speaker 19: the Palestinian government and the Palestinian governing elites. So the

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Speaker 19: symbolic nature is really related to this reality rather than

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Speaker 19: the other points, which is it's not necessarily there. There

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Speaker 19: isn't currently sovereignty on the ground. It's a hypothetical state.

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Speaker 10: And so on.

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Speaker 2: All right, interesting stuff, Doctor and Tite with us senior

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Speaker 2: lecture Arab and Islamic Studies at.

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Speaker 10: The A and U.

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Speaker 2: It is ten after five. Ryan Bridge Judgment's trying to

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Speaker 2: get the cash out the door quickly. This is to

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Speaker 2: help the tradees keep their jobs. They're accelerating funding as

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Speaker 2: part of a four hundred million dollar fund to fix

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Speaker 2: up and maintain old multi classrooms which we no need

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Speaker 2: to be fixed. This comes after, of course, we had

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Speaker 2: a one point eight percent drop in construction quarter two,

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Speaker 2: a ten percent drop over the last year. Education Minister

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Speaker 2: Erica Stanford is with me, Minister, good evening. HELLI hi,

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Speaker 2: very well, thank you. Why accelerate this funding now? Why

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Speaker 2: not six twelve months ago when the trades really needed it.

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Speaker 3: Well, we were.

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Speaker 10: Already doing a huge amount. This is accelerated. But if

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Speaker 10: you look at the amount of classrooms we built over

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Speaker 10: the last year, it's thirty percent more than the year before.

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Speaker 10: Last year, on the year before that, this year we've

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Speaker 10: got to build more than we did the year before that,

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Speaker 10: and I've got eight hundred million dollars of stuff in

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Speaker 10: the pipeline between now and Christmas. So we were already

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Speaker 10: doing a huge amount of heavy lifting in education. And

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Speaker 10: the reason we're able to do that is because we

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Speaker 10: got our act together, because you remember I turned up

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Speaker 10: and it was an absolute unmitigated disaster with hundreds of

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Speaker 10: projects unfunded. Basically, we've got to go act together. We've

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Speaker 10: got the property report done, We're building classrooms at half

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Speaker 10: the price, We've accelerated the number of classrooms we're building.

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Speaker 10: This is just the next step because we're in the

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Speaker 10: position to be.

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Speaker 20: Able to do it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're saying money now, how much money just for

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Speaker 2: our trades listening? How much money is going to be

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Speaker 2: available this side of Christmas that wasn't going to be

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Speaker 2: available before this announcement.

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Speaker 10: Well, there's fifty eight million dollars of new money which

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Speaker 10: is going to be going out the door very quickly.

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Speaker 10: So school, every single school up and down the country

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Speaker 10: is going to be getting a fifty percent top up

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Speaker 10: on the school property maintenance grant.

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Speaker 12: So from when school now now, it'll.

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Speaker 10: Be available now. Schools usually will do it over the

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Speaker 10: school holiday, so we're going out to every school. They'll

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Speaker 10: know now they'll be getting a form that says what

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Speaker 10: are you going to do with it? Because we're going

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Speaker 10: to track it, which we haven't done in the past,

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Speaker 10: but under this government we will What are you going

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Speaker 10: to do with it? When a you're going to do

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Speaker 10: it and get we're gonna get money out the door.

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Speaker 10: So this is for things like painting and washing and

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Speaker 10: gutters and fact minor fixed up and roofing and bits

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Speaker 10: and pieces, but it is significant. There'll be some schools

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Speaker 10: will be getting one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. The

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Speaker 10: small schools will be getting well more than a fifty

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Speaker 10: fifty percent uptick. They'll be getting a minimum of five thousand.

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Speaker 10: So for a very small school, you know, with just

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Speaker 10: you know, a handful of students, they'll be getting more

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Speaker 10: than that fifty percent.

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Speaker 2: All right, minister, appreciate your time tonight. Erica Stamford, Education Minister,

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Speaker 2: times twelve minutes after five.

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Speaker 3: Bryan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: I mean you could ask the question why are you

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Speaker 2: accelerating funding now when you have cut so much funding,

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Speaker 2: and some would argue hurt the construction industry so badly

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Speaker 2: with cuts to things like caring or order to house building.

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Speaker 2: And then only when you see these bad numbers do

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Speaker 2: you come out and start throwing the money around. Throwing

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Speaker 2: the cash around. We'll talk to Erica. Sorry, to the

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Speaker 2: Minister Nichola Willis Finance after six on the program. To

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Speaker 2: the US, Charlie Kirk's wife, this is Erica, very sad

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Speaker 2: to see her crying and very upset at the commemoration

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Speaker 2: for her husband, spoke about today the first time she

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Speaker 2: saw her husband's body.

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Speaker 9: Felt everything you would expect to feel.

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Speaker 10: I felt shock, I felt horror and a level of

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Speaker 10: heartache but I.

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Speaker 12: Didn't even know existed.

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Speaker 10: But there was something else too, Even in death, I

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Speaker 10: could see the man that I love.

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Speaker 2: Jdie Varnce. He was there. He says that Kirk was

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Speaker 2: a good friend. High praise for his achievements.

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Speaker 12: From this desert.

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk built a movement.

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Speaker 12: He transformed the face of conservatism.

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Speaker 1: In our own time, and in doing so, he changed

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Speaker 1: the course of American history.

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Speaker 2: Trump was there alongside Elon Musk, old mate friendem me

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Speaker 2: Elon Musk. He mentioned Jimmy Kimmel without saying Jimmy Kimmel's name.

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Speaker 21: Over the last eleven days, we have heard stories of commentators,

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Speaker 21: influencers and others in our society who greeted his assassination

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Speaker 21: with sick approval, excuses or even jubilation.

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Speaker 3: You've heard that so have I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 13: You know the names, they're major losers by the way,

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Speaker 13: they'll be that will be proven out in a short

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Speaker 13: period of time.

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Speaker 2: Right, great to see they made a spectacle of that.

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Speaker 2: It is fourteen minutes after five interesting thing happened. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you saw this over the weekend, but

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Speaker 2: Health New Zealand has done a very unusual thing and

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Speaker 2: that they've gone on to the employee, to the yeah er,

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Speaker 2: the employment relations authority and said you fix it. You

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Speaker 2: know they're dispute with the senior doctors the union, the

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Speaker 2: reason that our many of our surgeries won't take place

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Speaker 2: over the next forty eight hours. They've gone to the

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Speaker 2: hour and said, you've fixed this problem and you can

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Speaker 2: decide how much they should be paid the union. On

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Speaker 2: that next news talk said B news Talk said bits

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Speaker 2: five seventeen high rhyme. This is from being freedom of speech,

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Speaker 2: isn't freedom of consequences? Good on? Trump? I disagree with

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Speaker 2: that and completely the left went crazy. That the far

795
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Speaker 2: left went too crazy with trying to cancel people, but

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Speaker 2: you can't then get in power and cancel them back.

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Speaker 2: Completely undermines arguments you made for not doing it in

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Speaker 2: the first place. Freedom of speech is for everybody and

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Speaker 2: no one should be canceled for exercising it. Eighteen after

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Speaker 2: five senior doctors back on strike tomorrow and Wednesday. Thirteen

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Speaker 2: thousand operations and appointments will be postponed and extremely rear

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Speaker 2: moved from Health New Zealand. They've implied applied rather to

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Speaker 2: the Employment Relations Authority to fix the terms and conditions

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Speaker 2: of a collective agreement with the doctors. Sarah Dalton's with

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Speaker 2: the union, the Association of Salary Medical Specialists with me tonight.

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Speaker 2: Hi Sarah oh Rian, how are you doing very well?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? What does this mean that it's very unusual?

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Speaker 2: I think first time the public sector has done it.

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Speaker 2: What does it mean to go to the ARN ask

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Speaker 2: for this?

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Speaker 22: Ah, Well, we don't know, because, as you point out,

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Speaker 22: it hasn't happened before. We don't believe that the criteria

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Speaker 22: for this have been met or are met, so I

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Speaker 22: guess we'll be interested along with everyone else to see

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Speaker 22: what happens. I don't know. I think, of course, I think,

816
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Speaker 22: but Health New Zealand, you know, if they put as

817
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Speaker 22: much time and energy into working on the sums and

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Speaker 22: thinking about what money they could bring to the table

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Speaker 22: to settle this as they do on working out how

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Speaker 22: many patients think they think will be affected by the strike,

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Speaker 22: been a better place. We got into a real pickle

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Speaker 22: with them last week in bargaining because they brought some

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Speaker 22: bigger numbers, but they seemed contradictory, and we asked them

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Speaker 22: to go away and do some work with the finance

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Speaker 22: people or their numbers people so that we could be

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Speaker 22: clear what they were putting on the table. And they couldn't.

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Speaker 22: They couldn't work it out right.

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Speaker 2: So they've gone to the RA. Could this actually be

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Speaker 2: a good thing for you? I mean, if you look

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Speaker 2: at some of the decisions that have been made in

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Speaker 2: cases like this in the private sector, they've gone, well,

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Speaker 2: let's look around the market at what people are being

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Speaker 2: paid elsewhere and then fix the rate. I mean, you

834
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Speaker 2: could you could get Ossie pay potentially.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, Well, wouldn't that be nice? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I doubt that.

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Speaker 22: Look, we'll see, we'll see where it gets to. We'll

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Speaker 22: see how it goes. We don't think on balance it

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Speaker 22: is the best way forward for our members all the

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Speaker 22: right thing to do under the legislation. We don't think

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Speaker 22: they're being realistic, but you know, if we got to

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Speaker 22: a better place, so be it. We already have some

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Speaker 22: experience of working with the ER because we've been through

844
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Speaker 22: facility in this bargaining and last which ER overseas and

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Speaker 22: we were not happy with the way the ER Authority

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Speaker 22: members applied themselves to the task and we didn't find

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Speaker 22: them to take an independent view.

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Speaker 2: Does your negotiation continue in the meantime or is it

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Speaker 2: sort of on hold at the moment? Sarah, Well, we're willing.

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Speaker 22: To keep discussions going, but when we got to Thursday

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Speaker 22: last week, instead, we didn't think we made enough progress

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Speaker 22: to lift the strike's Health New Zealand packed their bags

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Speaker 22: and left. We did say we would be willing to

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Speaker 22: continue discussions Friday over the weekend they declined, But yeah,

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Speaker 22: we're always willing to resume bargaining.

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Speaker 2: Sarah Dalton, executive director of the Association of Salary Medical Specialists.

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Speaker 2: That strikes still going ahead and it'll affect services tomorrow

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Speaker 2: and Wednesday twenty one, after five year on news Talk

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Speaker 2: c B. I'll tell you why. I don't think our

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Speaker 2: government is going to recognize the state of Palestine, not

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Speaker 2: that one exists.

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Speaker 1: That's next for the name you trust to get the

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Speaker 1: answers you need, it's Ryan Bridge on either duplicy Ellen

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Speaker 1: Drive with one New Zealand coverage like no one else

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Speaker 1: news talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be five.

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Speaker 2: Twenty three news talks. It'd be. The government keeps telling

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Speaker 2: us that they're seriously thinking about recognizing Palestine, but I

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Speaker 2: call b yes, I think they're not really doing that

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Speaker 2: at all. Winston Peters is not seriously going to do

871
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: this for several reasons. One, they're no votes in it.

872
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: Most kiwis either disagree or don't know. Slash don't care

873
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: about the recognition question, not care about Gaza. They do,

874
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: but just on the recognition question. Number two, David Seymour

875
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: hates it. And this is a cabinet decision that needs

876
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: cabinet sign off. Remember three, the practical problem of who

877
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: you're actually recognizing. To probably recognize a state, you need

878
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: a leader who's that the Palestinian authority humas I mean,

879
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 2: for goodness sakes. Number four the US won't hate us now.

880
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 2: I don't think this is at all a primary concern

881
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: for the government getting offside with the US. It's more

882
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: of a convenient byproduct type situation. It is a big

883
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: call not to back our mates in the Five eyes, Canada, Australia,

884
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 2: the UK. But there are practical reasons why this recognition

885
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 2: won't happen, and also good reason to think that even

886
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: if we did it, it wouldn't be anything other than

887
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 2: performative politics at best anyway.

888
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 3: Brian Bradley, twenty five.

889
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 2: After five News Talk ZB Tric Shuson, Shustrom, Willis PR

890
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: Joseph Bcganney. They'll be on the huddle they can discuss

891
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: that and fight amongst themselves after the news at five

892
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: point thirty. Did you see the story at the weekend

893
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,959
Speaker 2: and made my blood boil, only because around my house

894
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 2: they're putting in cycle ways. Fine, whatever, you know, you

895
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 2: just got it. It's the world we live in. But

896
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: they're putting them in and they narrow the road. So

897
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: there's an arterial road right which you don't want to

898
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: block with cars, and they're putting the cycle lanes and

899
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 2: narrowing the road in a side street. Now what's going

900
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: to happen is when people go to turn left into

901
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: this side street, little side street, quiet, little residential side street.

902
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,439
Speaker 2: People are going to turn left into their The road

903
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 2: is narrowed, so they're going to slow as they turn.

904
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 2: They slow as they turn, The cars behind them slow

905
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 2: as they turn. This is an arterial route. So you

906
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 2: mess with the little roads, you screw with the big ones.

907
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: And when you screw with the big runs, then you

908
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: grind the city to a halt. So I have big

909
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 2: problems anyway, Milldale, I shan't be moving here. This is

910
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 2: a new development, Greenfield's development north of Auckland. And guy

911
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: goes to the Herald twenty two speed bumps on his

912
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: drive home. One hundred speed bumps in this new development,

913
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: more coming, he says, a speed bump every eighty meters.

914
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 2: His poor wife, he likely works from home two days

915
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: a week. I mean what his poor wife goes to

916
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: work every day. God help us, and she's over it.

917
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: She's had enough. Another resident, who did not want to

918
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 2: be named, least the cycle mafia come after you, I

919
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: mean seriously, catches the bus here from Silverdale Park and

920
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: you will experience all the speed bumps you need to

921
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: put a curve in your spine. So well done, and

922
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: you can't even blame Arkland Transport. It's Fulton Hogan apparently

923
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 2: who chose to implement all of the raids raised speed tables.

924
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: They are financing the roadworks, so surprise the prize. Yeah,

925
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 2: don't ask a plastic surgeon to but you can do

926
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: what you want on my face. You'll come out looking

927
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: like cat lady, you know what I mean. Same with

928
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 2: speed bumps twenty seven after five the huddle afternoons on your.

929
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: Smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in your car

930
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: on your drive home, it's Ryan Bridge on either duplessy

931
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: Ellen drive with one New Zealand hand of power of

932
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: satellite mobile news dogs.

933
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 3: That'd be.

934
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: Twenty five six year old news talk zib. The Huntley

935
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 2: power station normally brought to you by Indonesian dirty Indonesian

936
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 2: coal soon to be wait for it, clean New Zealand

937
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 2: produced coal. So the greenies will be absolutely wrapped with that.

938
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 2: We'll talk to BT Mining which is going to supply

939
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: two hundred and forty thousand tons of coal to Huntley

940
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: under a new deal that they have signed with Genesis.

941
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 2: That's coming after six o'clock. Also, Nikola willis with us

942
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: after six. Is the government changing tac Is it now

943
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: saying let's shovel the money out, quick, fast, out the door,

944
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 2: quick as we can, to help grow the economy, to

945
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: help save construction. And does that sort of undermine everything

946
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 2: they have told us thus far about economic management? Time

947
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 2: is twenty five away from six, Tritiusen and Josie Bugani

948
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 2: standing by.

949
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 3: For the huddle graham Bridge.

950
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 2: Last year overseas gamb has bet a whopping two hundred

951
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: and twelve million dollars on our domestic men's football league.

952
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: I know who knew for two hours every Saturday. New

953
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 2: Zealand is the only country in the world providing live

954
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: sport to the Asian gambling market. That should be on

955
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 2: our bumper sticker. Andrew Scott Homan is General counsel for

956
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 2: Professional football Footballers Association. With me tonight, Andrew, good evening,

957
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: I'm ailie Ryan, how are you very well? Thank you?

958
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 2: There is some concern this might open our players up

959
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: to match fixing. If you heard anything about that?

960
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 23: Oh yes, this has been a concern that New Zealand

961
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 23: as a country has been aware of. Now for gosh,

962
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 23: well over ten years, and as you say, we unfortunately

963
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 23: present this. Rather I suppose appealing cocktail to match fixers

964
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 23: from Asia in that our time zone allows us to

965
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 23: be the monopoly provider of live products for a couple

966
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 23: of hours every weekend. But also it's the amateur nature

967
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 23: of our competition and our match officials. Our referees don't

968
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 23: get paid for playing, and therefore they can be much

969
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 23: easier to bribe or convince to do the wrong thing.

970
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 23: That's also a problem that we have as a country.

971
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 2: So it sounds like a perfect storm. Do we know

972
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 2: if any players are being approached to do something dodgy?

973
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 23: Well, mercifully. What we do know is there have been

974
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 23: no reported cases of actual match manipulation, so no one's

975
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 23: actually done the wrong thing today. But yes, we do

976
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 23: have regular reports about approaches being made. Some of them

977
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 23: are quite kind of speculative, that might be what's at

978
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 23: message from someone saying, would you be interested in match fixing?

979
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 23: But others are way more sophisticated and involve people claiming

980
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 23: either that they are agents representing clubs in Asia or

981
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 23: Europe that can offer a player a trial at the

982
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 23: end of the season if they do a favor in return,

983
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 23: So there's a real mixture. We're fortune though that generally

984
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 23: our players report those advances and we've got a really

985
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 23: good partnership between the sports that's New Zealand football, but

986
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 23: also the police. The New Zealand Police are great and

987
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 23: following up on those reports and trying to get to

988
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 23: the bottom of exactly who this might be.

989
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: Well, I suppose the ones who report to you haven't

990
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 2: accepted the bribes, but the ones who have accepted the

991
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: bribes probably wouldn't, would they.

992
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 23: That's the danger. And there's another danger as well that

993
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 23: the naivety of some of our players means they may

994
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 23: not even realize that they're being set up. They may

995
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 23: actually think that this person that they're dealing with is

996
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 23: legitimately a coach or an agent for a foreign team

997
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 23: that could be the greatest opportunity of their footballing career. So, yeah,

998
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 23: you're right, it's very difficult to know for certain exactly

999
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 23: what the kind of threat level is in the country.

1000
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: Andrew, appreciate your time, Andrew Scott Holman Homan rather the

1001
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: General Council Professional Footballers Association. It is twenty two minutes

1002
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:57,479
Speaker 2: away from.

1003
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,720
Speaker 3: Six the huddle with New Zealand.

1004
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: SU's International Realty Find your one of a kind.

1005
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 2: Trisius and Shus and Willis pr and Josie Pegani, CEO

1006
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: at Child Fund on the huddle tonight, good evening, Hello,

1007
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: good to have you both here. Tricia's the government changing

1008
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 2: its tax, changing its tune on you know, this idea

1009
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 2: that the government should actually spend something that it might

1010
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: grow something as a result.

1011
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 24: It feels to me like the government every sort of

1012
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 24: Sunday goes to the fridge and has a look and says, now,

1013
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 24: what in here can we reheat? What can we pop

1014
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 24: in the microwave and serve up to the electorate.

1015
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 2: To show progress.

1016
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 24: That that is very that's very facetious.

1017
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: That's very good. Though.

1018
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 24: I think that they have to be careful that the

1019
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 24: electric doesn't tire of this because don't forget for most

1020
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 24: people while they all look today and they'll go look,

1021
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 24: it's good to see investment in hospitals. It's good to

1022
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 24: see investment in schools that's not making any difference in

1023
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 24: their hip pocket, and that's where they have been hit

1024
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 24: in the last few years. I think that one of

1025
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 24: the things around the schools is that we know Erica

1026
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 24: Stanford is a minister who actually really gets shit done,

1027
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 24: and where governments have struggled is that people lose confidence

1028
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 24: because they don't get the delivery. So I have confidence

1029
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 24: that Erica Stanford will get this done. I don't think

1030
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 24: it will move the needle, particularly in terms of the

1031
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 24: polls because, as I say, a, voters are worried about

1032
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 24: their hip pockets. But the other thing I think the

1033
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 24: government needs to be cautious of is that the government

1034
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 24: is not the economy. And right now I can tell

1035
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 24: you of several potentially major projects around Auckland that are

1036
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 24: still being held up because they are tied up in

1037
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 24: local government planning. They are tied up in waiting to

1038
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 24: get on the fast track and not knowing how long

1039
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 24: that will take. One of those is potentially up to

1040
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 24: a billion dollars of one development that would attract others

1041
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 24: near Auckland. And the other story which underpins this for

1042
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 24: me is you know another major developer who said to

1043
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 24: me recently, well, we're just not even going to go

1044
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 24: down the process of this major redevelopment right now, because

1045
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 24: it's at least half a million dollars just to run

1046
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 24: through the resource consenting process with no guarantee what's coming

1047
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 24: out the other side. So I would say to the government,

1048
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 24: you have to keep focusing on allowing the New Zealand

1049
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 24: businesses to be the economy and do the growing and

1050
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 24: keep on, you know, making sure you're getting the barriers

1051
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 24: out of the way for them to do that.

1052
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 25: They've actually announced a lot today, haven't they. I mean

1053
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 25: there's the duty of Colins digital stuff, which is actually

1054
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 25: game changing. If you start putting all government services available digitally,

1055
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 25: the school's announcement, the hospitals and so on, so you know,

1056
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 25: they'll be feeling like, you know, God, we keep announcing

1057
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 25: stuff and it's just not moving the dial. And I

1058
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 25: think you're right Ryan that they've fallen between do they

1059
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 25: do stimulus and risk more debt and inflation or do

1060
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 25: they cut and risk austerity and being unpopular. And I

1061
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 25: think they've been falling between those two things. I mean,

1062
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 25: the real problem. We've got the construction sector which is

1063
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 25: on a downturn. We've got energy which is overpriced, with

1064
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 25: deindustrializing New Zealand, our manufacturing sectors, you know, dying. So

1065
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 25: they need something big that captures the imagination. And I

1066
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 25: was looking back at Tony Blair when he first came

1067
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 25: into power and his first party conference, he said, the

1068
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 25: biggest priority in this government is three things. Education, education, education,

1069
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 25: and I feel like they need to go Is it

1070
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 25: education Erica Stanford's doing a lot. Is it reforming the

1071
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 25: public sector so that they deliver government services better? Is

1072
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 25: it competition? And do you need to go hard on

1073
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 25: competition and do really big things like maybe break up Fronterira.

1074
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 25: I don't know, you know, not just the super markets.

1075
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 25: And I feel like they can't prioritize one big thing

1076
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 25: that they're going to do that we all get. This

1077
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 25: is the government that changed education or changed competition.

1078
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 24: But the problem is we're in I think that the

1079
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 24: government would feel they've done that. This is the year

1080
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 24: of growth, right, It's growth, growth, growth. You can't not

1081
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 24: have had that message. But again the problem is that

1082
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 24: for businesses there is just still too much in the

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Speaker 24: way of them being able to invest and grow. And

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Speaker 24: this is where the government's message has really become not

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Speaker 24: calibrated with reality. So I have heard repeatedly ministers saying, oh,

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Speaker 24: we've done all this, now this is great. Now businesses

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Speaker 24: can start investing, they can start creating jobs. What they

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Speaker 24: have forgotten is that for a lot of businesses, the

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Speaker 24: cupboard is bear. There's not the money there to be

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Speaker 24: able to do those things yet.

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Speaker 25: So I think it's one thing that they really I

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Speaker 25: think they get brownie points for telling us there is

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Speaker 25: no short term solution here. This is really bad and

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Speaker 25: here's the steps we're taking. It's going to take a while,

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Speaker 25: and you've got to come on this journey with us.

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Speaker 25: If they were a bit more honest about that, I

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Speaker 25: think rather than trying to go, hey, it's going to

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Speaker 25: be great. You know, we're going to have growth, growth.

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Speaker 2: Growth, they have been pretty honest about and they've had

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Speaker 2: to be about the reality of it. But I think

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Speaker 2: you're right, Josie, if you know, labor will come along

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Speaker 2: next year and they've got to say what they'll do. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but they don't worry. We will save the day. We

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Speaker 2: will do that by texting, We will do that by

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Speaker 2: borrowing more, we will spend more. And will Keewis believe

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Speaker 2: any of it.

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Speaker 25: So there's one interesting comparison.

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Speaker 24: I hope, not hope, ever, believe that needs to be

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Speaker 24: at least lined up for an IQT.

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Speaker 25: At least they're presenting an alternative at the moment, they're

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Speaker 25: just going, you know, in a way that national did

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Speaker 25: when they were in government will be better than them.

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Speaker 25: But the real comparison is someone like Carne in Canada

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Speaker 25: who has put forward this fast track growth plan where

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Speaker 25: he's building a nuclear power station. He's labor government nuclear

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Speaker 25: you know, left government nuclear house. Station's mining copper. He's

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Speaker 25: building LNG plants. So it can be done, all right.

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Speaker 2: It is the huddle with Joseph Bigani and Tristius in

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Speaker 2: quarter to six back in a jiffy, the.

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Speaker 1: Huddle with New Zealand southebast International Realty's the global leader

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Speaker 1: in luxury real estate.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen to six News talks of Beatricius and Joseph Bigani

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Speaker 2: on the huddle tonight. Palestine, the Canadians, the Brits, the

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Speaker 2: Australians have all recognized it or decided they will recognize

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Speaker 2: it overnight, and we're still deciding. I don't think personally

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Speaker 2: that our government is going to do it, Josie, what

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Speaker 2: do you reckon?

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Speaker 25: I think they will, and I think they'll do it

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Speaker 25: in the last minute, and they'll do something around the

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Speaker 25: Canadian model, which is conditional. So it's not about recognizing

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Speaker 25: a broken state now led by Hamas who's still got

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Speaker 25: the hostages. It's about recognizing the principle of a state

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Speaker 25: led by Palestinian authority, demilitarized with an Arab peaceful going

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Speaker 25: in there, but recognize. I know what you're saying that

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Speaker 25: that recognizing the principle of the state seems like nothing,

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Speaker 25: but it is potentially the first step to some sort

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Speaker 25: of peace agreement. It has to be part of a

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Speaker 25: bigger plan. The big truth you've got is that Israelis

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Speaker 25: and Palestinians are going nowhere. They both have a legitimate

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Speaker 25: ancient homeland claim unfortunately to the same land, and so

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Speaker 25: any any analysis that doesn't any peace process, or any

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Speaker 25: analysis or any peace plan that doesn't acknowledge that is

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Speaker 25: not going to succeed. So I do think recognizing the

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Speaker 25: principle that the state of Palistine deserves to exist is

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Speaker 25: something that is the first step towards peace. And I

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Speaker 25: think when stall the last minute.

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Speaker 2: They we get to on that. A speed bumps Trish.

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Speaker 2: So this is in Milldale, north of Auckland, a one

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Speaker 2: speed bump every eighty meters in this particular New Greenfield's development.

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Speaker 2: The poor guy in the paper said his wife. He

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Speaker 2: gets to have two days at home working from home

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Speaker 2: every week, but his poor wife has to go to

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Speaker 2: work every day. She's sick of it. They're all sick

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Speaker 2: of it. Don't move to Mildale.

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Speaker 24: Well, this actually reminded me of when I was at

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Speaker 24: boarding school and my mother arrived to pick me up

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Speaker 24: in the good brown commodore and the pro Terminary High

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Speaker 24: School had put in some new speed bumps on the

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Speaker 24: driveway up to the hospital, and my mother had a

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Speaker 24: very unique idea for how she might test the efficacy

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Speaker 24: of the speed bumps using her car, and the principle

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Speaker 24: when I heard the story today reminded me of it.

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Speaker 24: I mean, this is absolutely ridiculous. Trying to drive around

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Speaker 24: you know, Milldale sounds terrible, but just try driving around

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Speaker 24: Auckland now. And what I have never seen is any

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Speaker 24: data or facts showing the efficacy of all of the

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Speaker 24: speed bumps that happened.

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Speaker 2: How many lives saved? Well, that's what I want to know. Well,

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Speaker 2: how many lives have we said? How many school children

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Speaker 2: have not been knocked off their bikes or have broken.

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Speaker 25: Only have a role to play. The problem is the

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Speaker 25: letherer of them.

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Speaker 22: They're just like breeding.

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Speaker 25: I've got a theory here that's it must be so

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Speaker 25: easy to consent them, right, that's why we've got so many.

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Speaker 25: So this is actually a great template for if we

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Speaker 25: could just deal with the time around consenting, we would

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Speaker 25: get heaps built. Like imagine we could.

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Speaker 2: Apply the same rules.

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Speaker 25: But I also think that it's something to do with

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Speaker 25: the fact that, you know, in that consultation process, no

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Speaker 25: one ever has to defend the status quo, right, so

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Speaker 25: you've got people who have to complain about things being built.

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Speaker 25: I mean, now we're complaining about speed bumps, But the

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Speaker 25: problem with the cool consenting process is that no one

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Speaker 25: ever has to measure not doing something or doing something anyway.

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Speaker 25: That's just my rant about.

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Speaker 24: Well here's the other thing. We seem to be able

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Speaker 24: to build speed bumps in mass very quickly, that's what

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Speaker 24: I mean, But we can't get major projects done in

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Speaker 24: any timeframe. I was reading a history of New Zealand

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Speaker 24: on the weekend. Do you know the Main Trunk Railways

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Speaker 24: had a great weekend. This is the length of his

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Speaker 24: even nine years to build Harbor Bridge.

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Speaker 2: Four years.

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Speaker 24: What has happened to New Zealand that we now can't

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Speaker 24: we can't even get a business case to put a

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Speaker 24: plan forward, let alone getting something built.

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Speaker 25: We can for speed bumps, right, But I think it's

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Speaker 25: a consultation class. We've invented a consultation class. The same

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Speaker 25: people get consulted all the time things. They are a

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Speaker 25: consultation class who say no to things. That's what we've got.

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Speaker 2: Even the good projects, like the projects you think people

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Speaker 2: would love. The Greenies included wind mills, windmills South Tartanaki

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Speaker 2: that go into the UN.

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Speaker 12: I mean, so why go to the UN?

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Speaker 25: The UN can't even solve Ukraine. They're not going to

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Speaker 25: sold windmills in Taranaki.

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Speaker 2: Right ate away from six. Thank you Tricius and Jose

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Speaker 2: Buccanney on the huddle tonight news Talk said b we'll

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Speaker 2: get to some of your texts next. Also after six,

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Speaker 2: we're looking at Huntley power Station and how we'll actually

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Speaker 2: power it.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duplassy Allen Drive Full Show podcastard Radio

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Speaker 1: powered by News Talk ZEBB.

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Speaker 2: News Talk ZIBB. It is six minutes away from six.

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Speaker 3: Ryan.

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Speaker 2: This is on the example we just heard from Trish

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Speaker 2: Hurston about you know it took us four years to

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Speaker 2: build the harbor bridge, and you know we can barely

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Speaker 2: build a put up a street sign and a week Ryan,

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Speaker 2: My favorite example is the Empire State Building, took just

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Speaker 2: over a year to build almost a century ago and

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Speaker 2: still standing. That's from Sean.

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Speaker 18: Sean.

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Speaker 2: Nice to have you texting the program. Ryan, this is

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Speaker 2: on the issue of match fixing. You know, for two

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Speaker 2: hours every weekend, we are the most watched country apparently

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Speaker 2: in Asia out of Asia for sports, and two hundred

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Speaker 2: million dollars a year being bet on the national professional

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Speaker 2: men's soccer teams. Ryan, my sixteen year old playing football

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Speaker 2: for Hamilton Wanderers, was approached. There are guys betting overseas

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Speaker 2: on domes games and it's crazy, it says Andy. Sounds

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Speaker 2: like it too, Ryan. If we, as New Zealanders could

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Speaker 2: actually drive to a speed limit, there would be no

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Speaker 2: need for speed bumps. Unfortunately we can't. So suck it up,

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Speaker 2: buttercup Alf he says, we are the architects of our

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Speaker 2: own downfall on this slow down or be treated like

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Speaker 2: a child, elf. Honestly, we're not children, that's the point.

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Speaker 2: And one speed bump every eighty meters is ridiculous. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I can understand the odd speed bump so that you

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Speaker 2: don't get people racing through an area. But at some point,

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Speaker 2: and I think we've reached the point where it's become

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Speaker 2: absolutely ridiculous. Ryan, how many lives have those speed bumps

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Speaker 2: cost with delays for fire an emergency for ambulance services?

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Speaker 2: Grants asked the question, it's a very good question. I

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Speaker 2: don't think anybody would be measuring that. News talk said

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Speaker 2: be there's a guy here in new Land from the IMF.

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Speaker 2: He was too, I see at the IMF, and normally

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Speaker 2: the IMF will come out and say New Zealand needs

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Speaker 2: a capital gains tax, New Zealand needs a wealth tax.

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Speaker 2: Potentially this guy has come over here and said, Nope,

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Speaker 2: you don't need any of those, even though you've got

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Speaker 2: an aging population. We've got to pay for the pension,

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Speaker 2: We're going to pay for the healthcare. How does the

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Speaker 2: government get the extra money? He says, probably what you

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Speaker 2: should do. What will happen is increasing GST and I

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Speaker 2: can hear your collective groans as you look at the

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Speaker 2: price of butter. But he says, it's an easy lever

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Speaker 2: to pull. And yeah, I'm just an interesting perspective. I thought,

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Speaker 2: this is that former to I see McKean of the IMF.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to Nicola Willis, Finance Minister about all of this.

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Speaker 2: Next news talk sets.

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Speaker 1: We're Business Meets Insight the Business Hours with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: and Mass for Insurance Investments and Kuei Saber.

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Speaker 3: You're in Good as news talks.

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Speaker 2: Be good evening Monday, the twenty second is September just

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Speaker 2: gone seven after six. Coming up on the show Shane

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Speaker 2: Soley for Markets, Show Business, Humpley's Cold Deal with wait

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Speaker 2: for it, Key we coll and we'll get to a

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Speaker 2: UK correspondent before top of the R two Ray Well.

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Speaker 2: We've spoken to Erica Stamford about this. The government is

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Speaker 2: shoveling money out the door to classrooms to get them

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Speaker 2: fixed up. They're old, they're moldy, and they're broken, and

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Speaker 2: they will have that money hopefully in these school's pockets today, tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: sometime this week if they need it. Nicola Willis is

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Speaker 2: the Finance Minister with us now Minister, good evening, good evening,

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Speaker 2: rin will we see more announcements like this of accelerated funding.

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Speaker 20: We've given a very clear message to all ministers. We've

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Speaker 20: allocated billions of dollars of extra funding. For infrastructure over

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Speaker 20: our past two budgets. We don't want it sitting around

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Speaker 20: in government bank accounts. We want it resulting in signe

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Speaker 20: contract spades in the ground, high vis and jobs. So

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Speaker 20: the instruction to all government ministers has been make sure

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Speaker 20: you know where your maintenance contracts are at, where those

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Speaker 20: construction projects are aut get them out the door.

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Speaker 2: Are you have you got any other examples that you

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Speaker 2: think you can point to where we'll get more money

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Speaker 2: out the door.

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Speaker 20: Well you've seen that from us that we've got the

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Speaker 20: seven billion dollars worth of projects underway or happening before Christmas.

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Speaker 20: So that's across transport projects. So yesterday we had the

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Speaker 20: big announcement in the hut of the Mailing interchange. Tomorrow

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Speaker 20: the Utucky to live in Highway will get started. Are

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Speaker 20: you also seeing that in health where we've already announced

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Speaker 20: the contracting arrangements for the expansion of the emergency room

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Speaker 20: at Wellington Hospital, the signing of that contract with Dunedin Hospital,

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Speaker 20: and there are other projects coming in that health area.

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Speaker 20: Look across the board, Ryan, we've made big investments in infrastructure.

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Speaker 20: The key is we don't want it sitting there. As

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Speaker 20: a theory and a business case want resulting in a

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Speaker 20: construction contract and people on work.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how many jobs do you do you by the

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Speaker 2: end of the year, how many jobs will you have

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Speaker 2: put on the table?

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Speaker 20: Well, look, people have different analyzes of how many jobs

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Speaker 20: are created per contract, but the Infrastructure Commission estimates that

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Speaker 20: for every billion that you invest, you are creating hundreds

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Speaker 20: of jobs. So look, we expect hundreds, if not thousands

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Speaker 20: of jobs to be created through these new construction contracts

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Speaker 20: by Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and that's with the money going out or the

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Speaker 2: money announced, because there's a difference. What you've just explained

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Speaker 2: to us. So is that is that you hope, because

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Speaker 2: you've allocated the money, will get those hundreds or thousands

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Speaker 2: of jobs by Christmas or the contracts assigned and they

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Speaker 2: will be created.

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Speaker 20: Well, look, as I say, it's difficult to assign these numbers,

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Speaker 20: which is why I'm being cautious about not getting you

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Speaker 20: a specific one. And that's because there's a combination of things.

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Speaker 20: There's those major construction projects that will commence before Christmas,

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Speaker 20: the seven billion worth of projects. Then there's these maintenance

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Speaker 20: projects that are being brought forward are in education and elsewhere,

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Speaker 20: and the jobs per contract will vary. Some of those

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Speaker 20: jobs will be of long duration, some of short duration.

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Speaker 20: Certainly we expect a lot of activity.

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Speaker 2: The biggest regret in government would it be cutting the

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Speaker 2: kying or order funding. I mean, that's devastated construction.

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Speaker 20: I am going to correct you on that one because

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Speaker 20: I am absolutely sick of this myths. In the past

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Speaker 20: two years, Kyeing of Aura has built more than seven

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Speaker 20: thousand new homes. How many we because all of the funding?

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Speaker 3: How many labor they weren't.

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Speaker 20: So let me finish my point, which let me finish

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Speaker 20: this point because labor have misled people on this. They

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Speaker 20: put funding and budget twenty twenty three, their last budget

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Speaker 20: into Kyeing of Aura, and we kept that in place

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Speaker 20: for housing construction. We in addition put in more funding

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Speaker 20: for social houses, two thousand more to be delivered by

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Speaker 20: community housing providers. The change that we have made is

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Speaker 20: that our analysis showed that fifty percent of people on

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Speaker 20: the social housing waitlist needed a one bedroom home, Yet

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Speaker 20: only twelve percent of Coyeing or is overall housing was

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Speaker 20: one bedroom homes, which is just a silly mismatch. So

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Speaker 20: we are working to make sure we've got the right

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Speaker 20: houses in the right.

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Speaker 2: Totally understand that who needs that. But you can't seriously

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Speaker 2: go to the construction industry and say this is a

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Speaker 2: labor myth that we've pulled projects from cayeing order. The

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Speaker 2: construction industry themselves are telling us that one of the

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Speaker 2: biggest barriers they've faced is a pullback from KO.

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Speaker 20: We have changed some of the projects, but overall, we

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Speaker 20: have added seven thousand homes in the last two years.

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Speaker 20: That's just a simple fact rhyme. It is true that

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Speaker 20: the construction sector has gone through a tough time, and

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Speaker 20: I fully appreciate that. One of the big changes that's

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Speaker 20: affected them is that we're interest rates got really high

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Speaker 20: and let's remember they didn't start dropping again until last August.

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Speaker 20: A huge number of private construction projects completely fell over

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Speaker 20: because they no longer stacked up at those expensive rates

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Speaker 20: of borrowing, and that's had a massively depressive impact on

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Speaker 20: the construction Sectory.

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Speaker 2: Reserve Bank governor will hear soon by the end of

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Speaker 2: the week, hopefully who that is.

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Speaker 22: That's right.

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Speaker 20: I'm happy to confirm that you will know by the

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Speaker 20: end of the week who the new Reserve Bank governor is.

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Speaker 2: Okay, will you make sure that if they because you

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Speaker 2: know Adrian Or for twenty nine months he failed to

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Speaker 2: get inflation within the target, and then he still got

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Speaker 2: a pay rise when he went for his next contract.

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Speaker 2: I mean, are we going to be stripped with the

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Speaker 2: next governor?

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Speaker 20: Well, my requirement of the Reserve Bank governor, which I

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Speaker 20: set out in my Monetary Policy remit, is that they

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Speaker 20: need to keep inflation inflation and the target band between

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Speaker 20: one and three percent over the medium term. So it

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Speaker 20: is acceptable to get a small blip out of that

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Speaker 20: if it's just a quarterly thing and then it goes

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Speaker 20: back to the mean. But those couple of years of

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Speaker 20: out of control inflation under or in labor, we're unacceptable,

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Speaker 20: created carnage in our economy and a real reminder of

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Speaker 20: where we need to keep our eye on inflation economy.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of it and Trump and the tariffs. If we

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Speaker 2: got hammered so badly by his last announcement, what's to

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Speaker 2: stop us getting equally hammered next time has another crazy

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Speaker 2: moment or a liberation day.

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Speaker 20: I think we can see clearly now that we are

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Speaker 20: not in the group of countries that's been hardest hit

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Speaker 20: in nor would we expect to be in future. We've

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Speaker 20: also got clarity for our American exporters about the rate

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Speaker 20: of tariff they can expect to face into the future,

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Speaker 20: which is obviously unwelcome at fifteen percent, but at least

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Speaker 20: they know what they're dealing with, and we can have

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Speaker 20: some certainty that the rest of the world hasn't gone

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Speaker 20: into an all out trade war. You'll remember when he

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Speaker 20: first made his announcement back in April, people were talking

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Speaker 20: about all sorts of retaliatory tariffs happening and free traders

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Speaker 20: we know it collapsing. That hasn't transpired. In fact, a

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Speaker 20: lot of our trading partners have leaned even more positively

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Speaker 20: towards free trade. And that's good for New Zealand because

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Speaker 20: we have a constellation of free trade arrangements.

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Speaker 2: We're not just dependent on the US to approve projects

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Speaker 2: in the fast track. Is that success, Well, it is, and.

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Speaker 20: I'm advised that there will be at least half a

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Speaker 20: dozen more decisions before Christmas. In terms of those projects, Ryan,

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Speaker 20: there's also another one that's been provisionally approved. But they're exciting.

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Speaker 20: These are projects that are going to add hundreds of

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Speaker 20: millions to GDP, that are going to create thousands of jobs.

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Speaker 20: The my Tahi Village housing project in Nelson that's going

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Speaker 20: to impact employment activity by around two thousand, seven hundred jobs.

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Speaker 20: I'm advised the Auckland Port One over its lifetime will

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Speaker 20: support employment of one hundred thousand workers in Auckland, Milldale

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Speaker 20: and Auckland, which has been given provisional approval. That will

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Speaker 20: result in eleven hundred more homes being delivered and generate

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Speaker 20: around half a billion and GDP. So these are exciting

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Speaker 20: projects that would not have been approved without fast track.

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Speaker 20: They would have been stuck in the system for years.

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Speaker 20: Let me remind you this is a piece of legislation

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Speaker 20: that has been opposed by opposition parties. We've said no,

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Speaker 20: you need to get these big private sector developments out

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Speaker 20: the door, and we're doing it a lot faster than

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Speaker 20: what have otherwise been the case.

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Speaker 2: Nicola Willis, Finance mister. Appreciate your time. Hopefully they can

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Speaker 2: do without the I don't know if you saw the

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Speaker 2: story about the speed humps at Milldale. Hopefully they can

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Speaker 2: build those eleven hundred homes without the need for tons

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Speaker 2: more of them. Nikola Willis, the Finance Minister. It is

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Speaker 2: quarter past six. You're on news Talk zb We'll get

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Speaker 2: to change solid with markets.

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Speaker 5: Next.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Dupless Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: my Heart Radio powered by Newstalk ZIBBI News.

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Speaker 2: Talk zib eighteen minutes after six. We'll get to show

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Speaker 2: biz next. First, Shane Soly with Harbor Asset Management, Shane

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Speaker 2: Good evening.

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Speaker 26: Getay right.

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Speaker 2: So we had the GDP number for quarter two last week.

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Speaker 2: It was soft, but the shear market's been pretty flat.

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Speaker 2: Investors sort of looking through the weakness.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, it's an interesting one. Yeah, So we've seen the

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Speaker 26: sheremerk got flat the last five days through this GDP

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Speaker 26: shock period. Actually it has been flat year to day

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Speaker 26: and only up five percent of the last twelve months.

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Speaker 26: What we're because investors have been seeing this weakness for

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Speaker 26: some time. It's not a new surprise. But we are

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Speaker 26: seeing probably two or three things that are really starting

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Speaker 26: to get people to look back again. These interest rates

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Speaker 26: are starting to get to points where they're attractive cost

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Speaker 26: of borrowing and lower, making investments more attractive. There are

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Speaker 26: some signs that the economy is finding a base. We

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Speaker 26: are seeing this targeted government fiscal serially tuned to targeted

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Speaker 26: fiscal stimulus, So we are seeing some signs of things

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Speaker 26: getting less worse. And obviously parts of the economy are

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Speaker 26: actually do okay, others just a bit rough. And finally,

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Speaker 26: the thing that we're most focused on this company doing

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Speaker 26: the companies doing their own self help programs, so they're

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Speaker 26: fixing their own businesses by efficiency gains. But the unfortunately,

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Speaker 26: market was down just under zero point seven percent today

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Speaker 26: giving back was a bit of a strong day on Friday,

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Speaker 26: so it's giving some of that back upter some index

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Speaker 26: welate changes the little way together before. We're a rock

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Speaker 26: star economy and rockster market agin right, unfortunately, but certainly

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Speaker 26: we're in this don't fight the Fed, don't fight central

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Speaker 26: banks moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the speaking of the rbns in here will obviously

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Speaker 2: be cutting a kwbank came out today, so they might

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Speaker 2: need to go to two percent by February next year.

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Speaker 2: What do you reckon that?

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Speaker 26: Well, look, certainly markets are pricing and official cash right

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Speaker 26: going to two point three percent by May twenty six.

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Speaker 26: That's down zero point seven percent on the current three

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Speaker 26: percent level. We've got cuts priced and for October according

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Speaker 26: to market, so zero point three four percent. That means

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Speaker 26: twenty five percent or point ty five percent expected, but

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Speaker 26: it could be half of percent and there isn't. It's

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Speaker 26: a bit fluid is because there's some expectation that inflation

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Speaker 26: data may actually just creep up the next month. Styre

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Speaker 26: holding the RBNS back from doing a half percent. But

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Speaker 26: the economy, you know, we certainly needs needs, it would

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Speaker 26: benefit from the liquidity injection, so you know, maybe maybe

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Speaker 26: we do get closer to two than two and a half.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. We're also getting an update on US and flow

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Speaker 2: data later this week.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, look, last week we saw the Federal at the

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Speaker 26: Market Commission. This is the fed's Monketrey policy arm cut

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Speaker 26: by a quarter of percent. That was expected, but Fed

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Speaker 26: hier power. He was quite hawkish here, sort of holding

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Speaker 26: his cards back, talking about as a risk management cut

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Speaker 26: this week. Later this week, on Thursday, we get the

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Speaker 26: core personal consumption Exponiti or PC data.

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Speaker 6: That's the one the.

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Speaker 26: FED really favors. So it's actually on Friday, apologies surveys

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Speaker 26: are shown. We're coming around two point nine percent, that's

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Speaker 26: inside the fed's target band. Remembering, of course we've got

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Speaker 26: this very unusual time in the US with the data

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Speaker 26: is not exactly great, so complete and what markets are

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Speaker 26: really watching for is this tariff impact? Is it as

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Speaker 26: bad as people have expected? So you know we have

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Speaker 26: got the potential for some more amminition for the FED

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Speaker 26: to cut this Currently if we look one year forward

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Speaker 26: out to September next year, is about one percent of

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Speaker 26: a few is FED cuts put in place, taking their

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Speaker 26: rates down to three. This the official Caesher and Fed

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Speaker 26: chiapwe he talks on Thursday, He's going to talk about

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Speaker 26: the economy and Markt's going to be saying, so things

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Speaker 26: getting worse? Does that menu have to cut faster and

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Speaker 26: earler to get to that one percent down?

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Speaker 2: Appreciate that update. Shane Soley Harbor Asset Management with US

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Speaker 2: tonight just gone twenty one minutes after six An update

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Speaker 2: for you on Harry Styles, everybody's favorite British pop star

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Speaker 2: doing everything apparently but making music. Will ask why.

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Speaker 1: Closing the numbers and getting the results. It's Ryan Bridge

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01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: with the Business Hour and Mass for insurance investments and

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01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 1: Killie Saber You're in good hands Newstalks ed Boks twenty four.

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Speaker 2: We look at this deal for Cole for Huntley after

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01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 2: the news at six thirty. First though, I'm loving all

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01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,799
Speaker 2: these texts on the speed bumps. Ryan, I'm an automotive engineer,

1519
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 2: says this text. You will be aware of the waterfront

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01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 2: road from the city to Saint Heliers. There are fourteen

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Speaker 2: speed bumps on this road. Every vehicle that travels this

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01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 2: road will burn eighty percent more fuel than if it

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Speaker 2: was a smooth This is caused by the breaking and

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Speaker 2: the acceleration. AT did not carry out any research regarding

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Speaker 2: fuel consumption or damage to vehicles prior to putting their

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Speaker 2: speed bumps. And I have this information via an OAA

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Speaker 2: from all can Transport HM. Very interesting indeed, this one

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01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 2: in christ Church from JP Ryan firefighter here, I have

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01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 2: measured the delays in christ Church to cardiac arrest due

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01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 2: to the speed bumps and other delays due to slowing

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Speaker 2: traffic down the traffic calming measures they call them. Approximately

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01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 2: three to four lives a year will be lost due

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Speaker 2: to delays. You have ten minutes to be saved when

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01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 2: your heart stops. In the last four years in christ Church,

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01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 2: only one pedestrian or cyclist has been killed, submitted to

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Speaker 2: christ Church City Council. They have said nothing, thank you

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01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 2: JP for that. So basically, not only are they slowing

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Speaker 2: us down, but where we're going to die as a result. Okay,

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01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 2: that's the.

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Speaker 3: Just show bears.

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Speaker 2: It looks like former One Direction member Harry Styles is

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01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 2: anywhere but recording new music, which will be bad news

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01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 2: to the years of those who love this song. The

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01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 2: British pop star will snap this weekend running the Berlin

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01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 2: Marathon the Twist. He's actually quite a good runner. He

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01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 2: completed the feat in two hours, fifty nine minutes and

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Speaker 2: thirteen seconds, just below the three hour mark for him.

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01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 2: Plus he's been able to shave off over a minute

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Speaker 2: from his time when he ran the Tokyo Marathon in March.

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01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 2: If you want to go to your local marathon to

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01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 2: catch a glimpse, you might be out of luck. He's

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01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 2: not using his real name unfortunately, he's running under the

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01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 2: alias Stead Surrendos. But now we know his alias, surely

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01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 2: he will change it every race. I don't know. If

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01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 2: you're running across the Harbor Bridge with a guy who's

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01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 2: obviously trying too hard not to be noticed, he might

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01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 2: just be a pop star. You never know, especially if

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01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 2: he comes in under three hours. Good on him. Harry

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01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 2: Styles would be nice if you got to music, because

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Speaker 2: I do enjoy his actually just very quickly on Taylor Swift,

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01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 2: we got time for this. She did an announcement over

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01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 2: the weekend and all of the Swifties love this stuff.

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01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 2: But she's going to release her album with a global

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Speaker 2: cinema experience, and I thought, you know what, for all

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01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 2: the stick that she gets for being I don't know,

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01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 2: is she a standout performer? Would you say that? I

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01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 2: don't know, but she's very popular. She brings a lot

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01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 2: of people together. Think of all of her concerts. Think

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Speaker 2: of that generation of kids who you worry are on

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01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 2: their smartphones too often, not doing enough socializing. She gets

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01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 2: them to the cinema together, She gets them to the

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Speaker 2: concerts together. She gets them waiting outside her hotels having

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01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 2: a great time interacting face to face. So for that,

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01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,719
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift, thank you very much. Twenty seven after six

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01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 2: Huntley and the Coole Afternoons.

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01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 27: Whether it's Macro micro or just playing economics, it's all

1577
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 27: on the Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and Mass for

1578
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,719
Speaker 27: Insurance Investments and Kiui Saber.

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01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 3: You're in good hands. News Talks ev send seven long true.

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01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 12: Nobody knows.

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01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 2: You're on News Talksb's twenty five minutes away from seven

1582
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 2: Great to have your company. We'll go to the UK.

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01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 2: A UK correspondent will join us before seven o'clock this evening.

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01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 2: Lots to discuss the course, including Keers Starmer, who's just

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01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 2: having a al of a time over there, isn't he

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01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 2: If he's not losing his two ic to a housing scandal,

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01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 2: he's losing one of his staff members to an Epstein

1588
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 2: related scandal, another to an email related scandal for years

1589
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 2: gone by, not to mention the main Epstein scandal, which

1590
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 2: was Mandelsson, his ambassador to America. So lots for him

1591
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 2: on his plate, lots for him to deal with. We'll

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01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 2: talk to our UK correspondent about that and whether he's

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01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 2: kind of going to hang on. Was listening to a

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01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 2: podcast today, a British politics podcast this morning about I mean,

1595
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 2: he's got three and a half years on the clock

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01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 2: to to care Starmer, so it's not like, you know,

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01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 2: it's panic stations. But then in some ways, I mean,

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01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 2: if you think about how often they choose through a

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01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 2: leader because of their five year term, you know, you

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01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 2: get it chy, don't you. And here with the three

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01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 2: year electoral cycle, you're more likely to hold on to

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01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 2: the same leader and go to the election with them,

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01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 2: because it's a shorter term over there. If you've got

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01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 2: to wait another five, four or five years with the

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01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 2: leader that no one likes, then you might be more

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01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 2: inclined to roll them. So in a funny kind of way,

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01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 2: you may may end up with more leaders more and

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01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 2: more changes to leaders more often over there than you

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01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 2: would hear. Anyway, we will talk about that. Just before

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01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 2: seven twenty three to two. Now ran Bridge more coal

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01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 2: on the way for Huntley Power Station, but not of

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01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 2: the Indonesian variety. Genesis Energy is locked in a deal

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01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 2: to purchase two hundred and forty thousand tons of local

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Speaker 2: coal to keep the lights on there. The move designed

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01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:17,440
Speaker 2: to shore up energy security, cutting reliance on overseas imports

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01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 2: of Richard take On is the BT Mining CEO with

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01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 2: us and on the phone, Richard, good evening, okaday Ryan there.

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01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 2: Nice to have you with me. First of all, this deal,

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01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 2: how significant is it?

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Speaker 18: Oh, this is fantastic. We've got Hartley coal going into

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01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 18: the Hartley power Station. It's been probably a decade since

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01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 18: there's been a like a long term supply like this.

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01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 18: So we've got one hundred and twenty thousand tons a

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Speaker 18: year for the next two years. That'll displace about half

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01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,759
Speaker 18: of what they're importing now on a normal year. Obviously

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01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:53,640
Speaker 18: you know in certain years of US dry than I

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01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 18: need more. But yeah, it's significant for us and the

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01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 18: significant for the Hartley district.

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Speaker 2: How why did we need to go to Indonesia in

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Speaker 2: the first place.

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Speaker 18: Look, it's got to do with the downsizing the mines

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01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 18: over the last couple of decades, and you know the

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Speaker 18: coal then really ended up in the making Steel New

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01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 18: Zealand Steel Plant public Glenbrook. There was no excess coal.

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Speaker 18: And also you know for the for Genesis, they didn't

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Speaker 18: really know how much coal they were going to burn,

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01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 18: so it's hard for them to enter into a long

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01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 18: term supply contract that US as a producer needs, Whereas

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01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 18: they can go and get coal from Indonesia and a

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01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 18: boat load, you know, with a with a much notice.

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01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 2: So where are you getting this coal from?

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Speaker 18: This is coming from the road to Warra mine just

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01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 18: in Huntley itself, just out of Huntley. So it's Look,

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01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 18: it's part of a long term infrastructure that was set

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01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 18: up as part of the power station. Originally there's an

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01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 18: internal hall road. It then goes onto a conveyor which

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01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 18: feeds directly into the power station.

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01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 2: And what were you going to do with this coal

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01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:58,600
Speaker 2: had it not gone to Huntley? Do you know what?

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Speaker 23: You know what I mean?

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01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 18: Yep, yep, No, Look at what eventually got sold to

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01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 18: New Zealand Steel if that plant continues using coal in

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01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 18: the same way they have. But you know, there's a

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01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 18: lot of coal left in the Hutley area. We've got

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01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 18: a plan for an extension that's actually listed in fast

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01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 18: Track and we went the customer for that coal. So

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01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 18: we see this as being a really good supply for

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01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:24,600
Speaker 18: the next two years, but also it may lead to

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01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 18: other coal supply being able to be brought on.

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01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 2: And is the with the fast track situation, is there

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01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 2: any indication of for you guys know, whether you are

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01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 2: approved where you're along with that process. We're hearing a

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01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 2: lot about sort of delays ironically on the fast Track.

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01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 18: Look, we haven't got an application and yet we've got

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01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 18: two projects listed. We've got the Dennison Buller project down

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01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 18: on the West coast and we've got the Rhodawara Extension

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01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 18: project up in the Hutley area. So we're working on

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01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 18: applications for both of those that we haven't presented them

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01:27:58,720 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 18: to the EPA.

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Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, what about the two year contract

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01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 2: term for this Hunting power station? Is there not much

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01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 2: more than that to go around or what's with the term.

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01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 18: No, it really just takes us through. That's some exceous

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Speaker 18: coal that we believe, well, we know we've got in

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01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 18: this block we're mining now. They maybe a little bit

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01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:22,680
Speaker 18: more to go past that, but we wanted to be

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01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 18: able to be sure we could supply it, so that's

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01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 18: why we've both parties are very happy with the two

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01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 18: year deal.

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Speaker 2: All right, interesting stuff, Richard, appreciate your time. Thanks so

1681
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 2: much for it. To take on the taken I should say,

1682
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 2: who's the BT Mining chief executive. It's just gone twenty

1683
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 2: to seven your news talks in b We'll get to

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01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:39,759
Speaker 2: the UK.

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01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:43,879
Speaker 1: Next, everything from SMS to the big corporates, the Business

1686
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 1: Hour with Ryan Bridge and Mass for insurance investors and Kia.

1687
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 3: You're in good hands news talks.

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01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 2: He'd be seventeen away from seven. You're on news talks.

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01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 2: He'd be. Gavin Gray is a UK correspondent joining us

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01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 2: this evening. Gavin good a right, flight disruptions. We've got

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01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 2: the cyber attacks and flight disruptions across Europe and they

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01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 2: sit to get worse or continue at least.

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01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 28: Yes they are, and it's Brussels which appears to be

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01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 28: the worst affected. So this was all a software cyber

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01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 28: attack which struck several airports across the Europe, including Berlin

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01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:24,719
Speaker 28: in Dublin and Brussels and London Heathrow Britain's biggest airport,

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01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 28: and it's basically a system that allows airlines to share

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01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 28: check in desks and also the baggage sorting. So it

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01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:36,640
Speaker 28: is effectively that that's been we believe the subject of

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01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 28: a cyber attack, and Collins Airspace, who run that aerospace,

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01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 28: who run that particular software thing, saying well that they

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01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 28: have almost resolved the issue, but that hasn't stopped many

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01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 28: many flights being canceled across the weekend. This struck on

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01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 28: Friday night and Heathrow was looking pretty messy, so was

1705
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 28: Brussels and Berlin. On Saturday. Things got a little bit

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01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 28: better yesterday. Today we're being told most are getting back

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01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 28: to normal, but not so at Brussels, where effective they've

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01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 28: been asked. All airlines have been asked to cancel nearly

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01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 28: half their flights, so really a massive massive problem there

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01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 28: and it has led to all these airports having to

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01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:19,720
Speaker 28: check people in using pen and paper. British Airways incidentally

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01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,679
Speaker 28: was not doing that. It has its own backup system

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01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:25,719
Speaker 28: and that's led to questions about why other airports don't

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Speaker 28: have their own backup system.

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Speaker 2: Any idea at this point, Gavin, where the cyber attects

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01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 2: have actually come from.

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01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 4: No.

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01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 28: All sorts of finger pointing again about potentially from Russian

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01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 28: hackers and potentially those Russian hackers being linked to Russia,

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Speaker 28: to the state of Russia. But we don't know that

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Speaker 28: for sure, and indeed the company itself is trying to

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Speaker 28: studiously avoid using the word cyber attack, just saying it

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Speaker 28: is a cyber issue, but everyone else seems to be

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Speaker 28: reported that they believe it to be a cyber attack.

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Speaker 2: All right, Okay, speaking of the Russians in staying in

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Speaker 2: the skies, Estonia is re Christian consultation with NATO members

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Speaker 2: of this after the Russian wall planes violated their space

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Speaker 2: Friday morning.

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Speaker 28: Yeah, so for the second time in just this month,

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Speaker 28: we're getting news that Russia has flown over airspace and

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Speaker 28: Estonia being this time they reckoned some three meg fighter

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01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:23,679
Speaker 28: jets flew over their airspace for twelve minutes. Now Russia

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01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:27,400
Speaker 28: is saying, no, we're an international airspace. But not according

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Speaker 28: to the Estonians who say no, it was flown over

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01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 28: and they're pretty angry about it. Indeed, it's led. I

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01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 28: think lots of NATO countries now to get really jittery.

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01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 28: They are bolstering that eastern flank, and Italy, Finland and

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01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:43,560
Speaker 28: Sweden were scrambling jets and as I said, for the

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01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:46,800
Speaker 28: second time this month when a NATO members airspace was

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01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 28: breached by Russia. Incidentally, if you think, oh, this is

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01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 28: all getting a bit boring, the Czech president Peta Pavel

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Speaker 28: is saying that NATO should respond by shooting down any

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01:31:57,000 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 28: planes from Russia or any other country she's overflying without permission.

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01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 28: Russia saying, you know, it had nothing to do with it,

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Speaker 28: it's not illegal, and so forth. But there is a

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Speaker 28: feeling that Russia is testing NATO to see what it

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Speaker 28: is and is not willing to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't like to agree with something like that,

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01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 2: something as drastic is that. But if the idea is

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Speaker 2: that he is testing, and he said at Stonia in

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01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 2: Poland his head, Romania is testing the boundaries of NATO.

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Speaker 2: NATO's response thus far would seem to be pretty weak,

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01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 2: wouldn't it.

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01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:30,639
Speaker 28: Yeah, yeah, I think that's exactly. I think the point

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Speaker 28: many awake at you and making that there's meetings, it's discussions,

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01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 28: it's jiggling around where the defenses are and a unanimous

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01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:42,600
Speaker 28: sort of statement of intent, but there is actually no

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01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 28: intent being signaled at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time, Gavin Gray, UK correspondent. Time is fifteen

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Speaker 2: minutes away from seven. Actually, just before we leave the UK,

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Speaker 2: I thought I would assume with you this a little

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01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 2: piece from an article that I was reading at the weekend,

1763
01:32:57,400 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 2: sent by a friend. It's about Jeremy Corman and Zara Sultan.

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01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 2: If you don't know who, you know who. He is,

1765
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:06,759
Speaker 2: former Labor leader. Of course, she is a young, young lefty.

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Speaker 2: She quit Labor in quite dramatic fashion, and they started

1767
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 2: a new party together. You might have heard of this.

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01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:16,719
Speaker 2: It's called your Party, and this was only maybe three

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01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 2: four months ago, but back in July is when they

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01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 2: started this party. Anyway, it's collapsed already, it's basically falling

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01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:26,680
Speaker 2: to pieces right before your very eyes. And it's I

1772
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 2: think liberal Moway socialists coupled with conservative Muslims, coupled with transactivists,

1773
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 2: what could possibly go wrong? This is an article that

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Speaker 2: called the collapse of your party is bloody hilarious. It's

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01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 2: by a when you can go and look it up

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01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 2: by Brendan O'Neill from a website called Spiked. He says, Sultana,

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01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 2: this is the young liberal lefty. Sultana embodies the cult

1778
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:58,080
Speaker 2: of victimology that bizarrely passes for leftism these days. The

1779
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 2: new left is packed with him, in sickle furries and

1780
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 2: vitamin D deficient poshos who tweet about fighting barbarism and

1781
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 2: then demand a self care day because they overheard somebody

1782
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 2: say he about some fat bloken a boob tube. This

1783
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 2: is the article that's been written for a Spike, well written, entertaining, controversial. Yeah,

1784
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 2: you can beat your bottom dollar, but it raises for

1785
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 2: me some really interesting questions about the left and how

1786
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 2: they have lost in the eyes of many, lost the

1787
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 2: worker and picked up a whole bunch of other weird

1788
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 2: social issues that actually most voters, people who actually go

1789
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:43,879
Speaker 2: to the polls and vote rather than post on TikTok,

1790
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 2: they don't care about. And it's a problem that I

1791
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 2: think you can see in the popularity of Kiir Starmer

1792
01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:55,679
Speaker 2: and one that Chippy here is desperately trying to avoid

1793
01:34:55,800 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 2: coming into twenty twenty six eleven away from seven Talk

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01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 2: zib It's the Heather Too per.

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01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 1: Se Alan Drive Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 1: News Talk ZIBB.

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01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:11,680
Speaker 2: Eight to seven News Talk h B. Mark Ruffalo, the

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01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 2: American actor, is well. He's part of a growing number

1799
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:20,560
Speaker 2: of Hollywood elite who are basically going crazy over the

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01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:23,840
Speaker 2: whole Jimmy Kimmel, and rightly so. I think anyone who

1801
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 2: gets canceled in a situation like that, you know you'll

1802
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 2: provoke some strong reaction. Anyway, he's having a cracks. Is

1803
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 2: that living in the US will soon be like living

1804
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 2: under the Taliban.

1805
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 29: Because authoritarian regimes, fascist regimes have to degrade our freedoms

1806
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:45,680
Speaker 29: more and more over time, until we're living the smallest,

1807
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:50,879
Speaker 29: the most frightened, the most secretive lives. Think of yourselves

1808
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 29: living under the Taliban, because that's where we're headed.

1809
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 2: Geez, all right, a bit of a long bow, I

1810
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 2: would have said, anyway, why do people listen to actors?

1811
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 2: Why do people care what actors think? I'm getting a

1812
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 2: bit sick of musicians and actors like you need to

1813
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 2: separate politics. There's so much going on in the world,

1814
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:12,640
Speaker 2: so many bad things going on in the world, so

1815
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 2: much war, so much hate, so much division. Can we

1816
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 2: not just go to the cinema? Can we not just

1817
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 2: put on the radio and listen to some music and

1818
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 2: just sort of tune out from all that? And isn't

1819
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 2: that what arts me to be about for the most part.

1820
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 2: So if you could just please, if you're an actor

1821
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 2: listening to this, if you're a musician, just keep your

1822
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 2: thoughts to yourself and do what you do best, you know,

1823
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 2: entertain us, make us feel good. That the world needs

1824
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 2: a bit more of that, I think at the moment.

1825
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 2: And the more that they open their mouths and talk

1826
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 2: about politics, no matter what side it comes from. I mean,

1827
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm I'm being quite agnostic about all

1828
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:51,879
Speaker 2: of that, but when they open their mouths about politics,

1829
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 2: you do tend to just sort of tune out and

1830
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:58,800
Speaker 2: shake your head. Ryan Huntley Cole going to Huntley power

1831
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:02,759
Speaker 2: Station and genius idea, says Jack. Yeah, it is pretty

1832
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 2: cool to see it happening. Jack. I mean, not that

1833
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 2: you want to be burning coal. But if you're going

1834
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:08,120
Speaker 2: to be burning coal, you might as well be burning

1835
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 2: Kiwi coal that comes down the road rather than on

1836
01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:16,559
Speaker 2: a ship from over in Indonesia. Ryan, maybe Huntley Power

1837
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 2: Station should not be allowed to use gas to make

1838
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:22,799
Speaker 2: power when it has the option to use coal. Until

1839
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 2: New Zealand gas supply is secured. This will leave a

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01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 2: huge gas amount for companies to manufacture and stop power

1841
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:33,719
Speaker 2: companies buying up all the supply contracts for gas, blocking

1842
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 2: other companies and in turn leading to closures. Sir Sean,

1843
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 2: all right, it is coming up to five minutes away

1844
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 2: from seven on News Talk, c'd be I'll be here

1845
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:46,640
Speaker 2: with you this week as Heather is off away and

1846
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 2: it's my absolute pleasure to be so I will see

1847
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 2: you tomorrow on Drive. Have a good evening, everybody. Oh, Libby,

1848
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 2: what have be going out to tonight?

1849
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:57,719
Speaker 6: We're going out to some Taylor Sworth who has announced

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01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,120
Speaker 6: that she or maybe she didn't announce it, but it's

1851
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 6: been announced that she's going to have a twenty four

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01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 6: hour radio station in her honor over in the US,

1853
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:08,240
Speaker 6: twenty four hours a day of Taylor Swift.

1854
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 2: What just forever? Or is it a one off?

1855
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 6: What's something to do with her new album, which comes

1856
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 6: out all.

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01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, the Big Love It Reveal. Oh that's very cool.

1858
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:21,080
Speaker 2: I'm surprised that her fans, her age would listen to

1859
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 2: her anyway. That'll probably listen to her wherever she tells

1860
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:26,679
Speaker 2: them to. I'm assuming. So here you go some Taylor

1861
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 2: Swift for your Monday evening. See you tomorrow, baby boy.

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01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 4: I think I've been too good of a girl.

1863
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 30: Too good of a girl, did all the extra credit,

1864
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:41,120
Speaker 30: then got greed and o ac. I think it's time

1865
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 30: to teach them lessons reading my world?

1866
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 24: Have you heard?

1867
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:45,880
Speaker 31: How can we claim the land?

1868
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:51,040
Speaker 3: I'll miss you, I missed you.

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01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 2: I believe I'm still begull.

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01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:57,760
Speaker 31: When I'm work in the wilm, I can still make

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01:38:57,840 --> 01:38:58,639
Speaker 31: a whole lota.

1872
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 3: And when I meet the.

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01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:03,639
Speaker 31: Band they asked you have a man, I can say,

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01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:08,080
Speaker 31: I don't remember. Familiarity, break contempt, don't put me in

1875
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:10,840
Speaker 31: the basement, but not when the band come of your

1876
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:15,839
Speaker 31: heart sign in my eyes, A polish up, real.

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01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:18,240
Speaker 13: A polish up rail nice.

1878
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:32,640
Speaker 30: Nice, if surer tears on my face, sadness speaking my

1879
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 30: old guy.

1880
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:36,800
Speaker 12: Some guys send my orange.

1881
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:41,720
Speaker 30: Most don't, just because he loves and when it's all

1882
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:45,640
Speaker 30: night and you can try to change my mind, you

1883
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:48,760
Speaker 30: might have to wait in line. What's the girl gonna do?

1884
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:49,599
Speaker 24: A time?

1885
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 4: Got shot?

1886
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:54,040
Speaker 28: Set you all.

1887
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 17: And I walk in the room.

1888
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 16: I can still make the whole oversation.

1889
01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 31: Meet the band they do you have a man? I

1890
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 31: can still say it for me in the basement and

1891
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 31: of your heart time, bye bye, an leave with you

1892
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:32,879
Speaker 31: in the room, still there summer.

1893
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:39,680
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