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Speaker 1: Follow this and our Wide Ranger podcast now on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hell you got New Zealander and welcome to Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Afternoons. Full Show podcast number eighty two, eighty two

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Speaker 2: eighty two for the seventh of March. Great show today,

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Speaker 2: some fantastic road rage stories and a lot of you know,

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Speaker 2: a lot of love in New Zealand, a lot of

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Speaker 2: disappointment with in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Yep, some abuse for FULLD Ranger drivers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll share you the exact date that smoking

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Speaker 2: was banned on flights out of New Zealand. So I

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Speaker 2: hope you enjoyed the show. Set to download, subscribe, share,

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Speaker 2: do all those good things for us and we will

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Speaker 2: pay you back in the future. We'll see you in

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Speaker 2: heaven till then.

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Speaker 3: Hi, will matte one till then.

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Speaker 2: You're a bunch of great New Zealanders. And give a

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Speaker 2: taste to keep me the.

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Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything

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Speaker 1: in between. Matt and Tayler Afternoons with the Volvo X ninety,

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Speaker 1: attention to detail and a commitment to comfort, News talks Dead.

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Speaker 3: Be good Afternoon to you welcome into Friday. Hope you're

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Speaker 3: having a fantastic afternoon. We certainly aren't. Get a mess.

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Speaker 2: Get a tyler, get everyone.

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Speaker 3: And you're looking very good. I've got to say, man,

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Speaker 3: looking very smooth. You've added quite the trump.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. I went to visit my mate Rodney Cheeseman.

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Speaker 3: Rodney Wow.

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Speaker 2: I think is it true that Rodney Wayne's original name

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Speaker 2: was Rodney Cheeseman.

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Speaker 3: It's a good fact. I don't know that.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I went to see Rodney for a haircut. And

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what this is actually a question. It's

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Speaker 2: not a question we want to really go to. It's

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Speaker 2: not going to we don't do three hours on this.

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Speaker 2: But so I've just had like a growth cut out

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Speaker 2: of my head by a dermatologists, right, yes, just nipped

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Speaker 2: out of my head. And and so I've got a

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Speaker 2: disgusting scab in there. Supposed to tell you your head

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Speaker 2: dressed before you they start cutting hair. About that one,

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Speaker 2: because what I say, it was Rodney cheese Man, Rodney

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Speaker 2: Cheeseman that was cut of my hair. It was actually

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Speaker 2: just out of Rodney Wayne. So it was a lovely

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Speaker 2: lady cutting on one.

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Speaker 3: Of his staffs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you want a starter, Rodney. Yeah, and one of

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Speaker 2: the good people that Rodney Wayne Saint looks and there's

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Speaker 2: a bit of a yelp when they saw the horrible,

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Speaker 3: So what was going through your mind? So you walk

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Speaker 3: up and said, I've got this hole in my head

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Speaker 3: and this horrible growth. Do I say anything or just

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Speaker 3: let it fly? And then you've got the line ready

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Speaker 3: to go as soon as she screams and sees what

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Speaker 3: the hell is that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? No, actually, all the way there said I must

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Speaker 2: remember to mention this horrible thing that's growing in my

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Speaker 2: hairline so as to not you know, because you might go,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want to touch that,

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Speaker 2: you know, I need to put on the gloves or something.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, they did a great job. Very happy with

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Speaker 2: my fate. So I think I'm looking God, I'm looking good.

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Speaker 3: It's a little bit lopsided, though. Did she stay away

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Speaker 3: from the side where there's a big hole in a

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Speaker 3: scale on the side of your head?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Cheeseman is correct. It was Rodney Cheeseman.

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Speaker 2: Why would you change your name? I mean, look, I

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Speaker 2: go to Rodney Wayne. So it's obviously working, but I

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Speaker 2: like to go to a salon rather than a Barbara.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's wrong with them.

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Speaker 3: I can see why he changed his name. I mean,

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Speaker 3: if you go to Rodney Cheeseman to go get your

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Speaker 2: I go to Rodney Cheese. I'll go to Cheeseman over Wayne.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's good Skifield. I don't know about Heydrew. Right

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Speaker 3: on to today's show after three o'clock because it is Friday.

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Speaker 3: We've got New Zealander of the Week, which is always

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Speaker 3: a mess of and man we've got a winner today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, huge, huge New Zealand of the Week this week.

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Speaker 3: Topical tunes as well, where Met and I each peck

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Speaker 3: first to three votes via phone takes it out. But

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Speaker 3: we also want to have a chat about tribute acts.

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Speaker 3: Are they worth the money? And I say this because

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a bit of time for tribute as

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Speaker 2: it's hard to pull off a good one. What's the

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Speaker 2: famous beyond again the aber one. They're very good, very good.

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Speaker 2: And there's a fantastic Pink Floyd one that people might

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Speaker 2: Pink Floyd Experience. Maybe they're called, yes, it could be wrong, fantastic.

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Speaker 3: The New Zealand based Oloyd experience.

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Speaker 2: I think they are.

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Speaker 2: And I saw seasons of Cornell a sound garden and

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Speaker 2: On Sunset and Los Angeles about a year and a

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Speaker 2: half ago. Very good, very good, very good.

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Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier in the show that I saw a

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Speaker 3: Fleetwood Mac tribute band and they were okay. But also

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Speaker 3: I only paid fifteen bucks to see that.

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Speaker 2: You've had a lot more to see the original Fleetwood Mac.

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Speaker 2: Hard to get those harmonies right. The Fleetwood Mac harmonies

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Speaker 2: Lindsey Buckingham wasn't quite perfect. Because you know those harmonies

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Speaker 2: so well, you can play the music, go for it,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Lindsay Buckingham, great Taris's had to learn those riffs.

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Speaker 2: But you can play the music. But very hard to

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Speaker 2: get those harmonies just right in Fleetwood, Mac But yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, I I don't have a problem with them.

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Speaker 3: That's going to be a good chat after three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: After two and they're bit's sad. But anyway to kid

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Speaker 3: after two o'clock. Road rage. This is on the back

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Speaker 3: But the question we want to put to the audiences.

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Speaker 2: Are people angrier on the roads recently? I've seen two

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Speaker 2: trigger to explode. Yeah, you see this video here, that's

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Speaker 2: more road rage out there? Do you think people are angrier?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. In my experience, my sample of one,

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing more of it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty. That is after

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Speaker 3: two o'clock. Because right now, let's have a chat about

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Speaker 3: your New Zealand. This is on the back of course

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Speaker 3: of Greg Furan resigning. The news came out yesterday. He

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Speaker 3: is going to see out his term. Unlike Adrian Oi,

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Speaker 3: he will finish up in October and then they'll find

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Speaker 2: That's the respectable way to do it. It's not just

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Speaker 2: pack a sad and then refuse to turn up to

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Speaker 2: an event you're supposed to be hosting the next time.

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Speaker 3: Don't just potentially leave the country and go to run.

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Speaker 2: About Greg four. And he's doing it in a respective,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but no doubt about it. He has had some

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Speaker 3: monumental challenges since taking on that role and a lot

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Speaker 3: of people would say it was a bit of a

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Speaker 3: step down for Greek four and going from the likes

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Speaker 3: at a patriotic duty that he wanted to do something

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Speaker 3: good for our national airline. He had a lot of

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Speaker 2: Just being CEO of in New Zealand. The coolest CEO

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Speaker 2: job in New Zealand used to be I mean, Michael

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Speaker 2: Boggs CEO of n ZEN.

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Speaker 3: Musical guy.

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Speaker 2: He's a good guy, stool job. Yeah, but as being

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Speaker 2: is that the is that the marquee CEO job in

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Speaker 3: Rob Fife was a very cool dude though he was

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Speaker 3: a silver Fox, and arguably Greg four and silver fox.

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Speaker 3: Luxton not so much of a silver Fox, well, no one.

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Speaker 2: I think you might be ginger under it if he

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Speaker 2: let it grow out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be nice to know actually what is

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Speaker 3: here color is But with all those challenges he had

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Speaker 3: to face, no doubt about it. So how long has

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Speaker 3: he been there for. We're twenty twenty five now. He

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Speaker 3: took on that position just before COVID, so closing in

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Speaker 2: Not easy when the government shuts down the nation. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: not easy to be a bridge to other countries where

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Speaker 3: But the question is how do you feel about in

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 3: Do you stool back that we have in the past

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Speaker 3: been incredibly proud of the New Zealand. It has been

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Speaker 3: seen as a premium airline around the world, won multiple awards.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they've won an award for some time,

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Speaker 3: but clearly they had let's call them some speed bumps.

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Speaker 3: They upset some customers in terms of refunds and some

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Speaker 3: of those international flights and the delays. Jetstar once a

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Speaker 3: laughing stock of the airline community. They've been doing pretty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and of course the enemy Quantus is increasing their

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Speaker 2: roots and well in New Zealand is not so. But look,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say this, and this is what I

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Speaker 2: want to hear. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. I

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Speaker 2: always fly in New Zealand. I don't know why. Am

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Speaker 2: I just a dumb patriot? I don't even go anywhere

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Speaker 2: else to look for flights? Is that silly? Is there

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Speaker 2: anyone else like me that's just locked into in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking domestically and internationally. I always fly in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: I feel like there's something wrong. I mean, I've got airpoints,

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Speaker 2: skin in the game, yeah, you know, and you know,

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Speaker 2: the Coral Lounge is great, all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: But as anyone that's loyalty in New Zealand anymore. Because

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Speaker 2: my sister flew in New Zealand to New Zealand, you know,

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Speaker 2: New Zealand this is what she said. She says, in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand blows traitorum my little sister Imogen, and she

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Speaker 2: had always found it before and she said she was

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Speaker 2: looking forward to it. So I haven't got anything to

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Speaker 2: compare it too, because I'm only flying in New Zealand

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Speaker 2: and it's really dropped on in New Zealand Or is

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Speaker 2: it just the lack of planes is the problem and

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Speaker 2: thus the prices?

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Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten. And now I've got

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Speaker 3: to say, if I fly domestically, and I get it's

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Speaker 3: a smaller market, we don't have as much competition, but

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Speaker 3: I will always go in New Zealand over Jetstar. Internationally,

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Speaker 3: I'll try and find a better deal now if Jetstar

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Speaker 3: or Quantus or Emirates. Emirates is a lovely airline. If

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Speaker 3: I can get on Emirates, Yes, Singapore Airline, beautiful airline.

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Speaker 2: I've been writing for Cathay Pacific's in Flight magazine lately.

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Speaker 3: Again they are premium products. I don't know if your

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon. It is eighteen as one. Just before we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, I said, I went to Rodney Wayne

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Speaker 3: Have I we might have been? Might have been punked there?

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Speaker 2: One hundred and nine dollars?

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Speaker 3: What from men's here cut? One hundred and nine bucks.

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Speaker 2: it as well. Upsell, Yeah, upsell. The pressure is applied

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Speaker 3: That's just part of the experience.

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Speaker 2: Look, you like your hair, well you can buy the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. Right back to in New Zealand. Do

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Speaker 2: I got puked on on a Jetstar flight and the

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Speaker 2: Well that seems fair enough. The stuff didn't care that

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Speaker 3: Get puked on and the staff don't what say, you're

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Speaker 8: Gooday mate? Hey, look, I'm not an extensive business traveler,

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Speaker 8: We've canceled the JFK flight. Bad luck and so you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you say that that sort of capacity problem,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when they gave you the ray, when they cancel

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Speaker 7: I learned from the.

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Speaker 9: So you know, look, it can get a bit rough

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Speaker 8: What what can I say? You know, when you get

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Speaker 2: But so you say, Ray, you know, maybe you know

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Speaker 8: Well, can I say my last trip up to Ireland,

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Speaker 3: But Emorates is a beautiful experience. But just to raise point,

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Speaker 3: But the fact that they don't tell people that these

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well this person said I want to be proud

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Speaker 10: So, no, the airline is not in great shape. It

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Speaker 10: I might go along and ask it. I had that

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Speaker 10: So no terriffts at all on anything. For Mexico. Canada

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Speaker 10: Maybe maybe not, but yesterday we got the cart. Who

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Speaker 11: Be.

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Speaker 3: Twenty eight past one neck You've just flowing in New Zealand.

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Speaker 12: Yes, yes, I wouldn't sue. The Warriors were in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, how was How was the mood on the

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Speaker 12: It was yes, yeah, it was yet quite Yeah it was.

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Speaker 12: It was quiet, but you know, it was enjoyable.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The thing is when you go over there, because because

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Speaker 2: oh your trips around, No, your trip's not run. You know,

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Speaker 2: the worries when the Warriors lose. You went to Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: You still had a good time, right, it.

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Speaker 12: Was the atmosphere. I'll do it again, but I wouldn't

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Speaker 12: It was one of the best I've ever been to stadium.

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Speaker 14: So?

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Speaker 2: How many how many days were you in Las Vegas?

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Speaker 12: I was there for six days?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, any three days in Vegas?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, exactly exactly. But I threw over United and then

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Speaker 2: How did it compare.

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Speaker 12: Exactly? That's what I was going to say, United Man.

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Speaker 12: I'll tell you the play between the two plays. You know,

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Speaker 2: Did you do the whole thing or part of it?

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Speaker 12: The last two hundred maybe kilometers?

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Speaker 2: My wife, I want to do that.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, that was We're going to do the Turkey one

437
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Speaker 12: for my sixtieth June.

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Speaker 2: So it is the command basically like a flash pub crawl.

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Speaker 2: You just walked from from Nice.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: And it was a bit of a chalance because I'm

442
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Speaker 12: alcohol free for three years never so you know, I

443
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Speaker 12: go to Vegas was a talent.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah and so and so you flew back

445
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Speaker 2: on New Zealand. You didn't think there was any difference

446
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Speaker 2: in the planes? What about what about the service?

447
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Speaker 12: The service I'd give the service to any Zeerom olive three. Yeah,

448
00:21:23,173 --> 00:21:29,053
Speaker 12: the ladies, the ladies or the workers, the tenants were

449
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Speaker 12: were we're older, if you don't mind me saying what

450
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Speaker 12: they have united, but they really were were approachable. Yeah

451
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Speaker 12: they don't. They doing a good job. I love their service.

452
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Speaker 6: So you know.

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Speaker 12: Sixty forty in New zero.

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Speaker 3: Sixty Yeah, were you were you kettle class or were

455
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Speaker 3: you premium.

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Speaker 12: Of the Yeah, premium one of those we can lay

457
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Speaker 12: next to each other with your wife and it's.

458
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Speaker 2: Got the it's like Bakount lovely options.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, but for the two hundred and fifty gold you

460
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Speaker 12: pay on top of them and your pluck.

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Speaker 2: All right, so stature, so you're loyalty in New Zealand.

462
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Speaker 12: It's I'm opinion in his Zerom. And I listened to

463
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Speaker 12: just quickly your man's kid enough to leave to them

464
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Speaker 12: about the conversation. My kid was mister before last week,

465
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Speaker 12: you know. And I listened to their conversation. I thought

466
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Speaker 12: that before him, it's done a really good you know

467
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Speaker 12: our steps, you know, And and and tried his hardest,

468
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Speaker 12: you know, he was always he was always approachable, always

469
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Speaker 12: you know, you to talk to him. But the interview

470
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Speaker 12: was like a rundown on him. You know, I thought,

471
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Speaker 12: you know this is because he sounds like a nicely

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Speaker 12: yeah and.

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Speaker 16: Didn't do this.

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Speaker 3: So he's only had some challenges against him. Neck you

475
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Speaker 3: got on you and yeah. I think there was a

476
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Speaker 3: bit of commentary on Greg forum versus Adrian or Adrian

477
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Speaker 3: or went for you know, ran for cover. A lot

478
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Speaker 3: of the time were Greg say what yeah, will about

479
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Speaker 3: his tenure at in New Zealand he did front double Law.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yes.

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number? Call

482
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Speaker 3: it is twenty seventy two.

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Speaker 2: Are you still loyal to? In New Zealand's despite the

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Speaker 2: troubles one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 11: Us talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

486
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Speaker 11: no trouble with a blue bubble. The Health Minister is

487
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Speaker 11: inviting people to step up to work on health. New

488
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Speaker 11: Zealand's reinstated board commissioner Lestera Levy is expected to step

489
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Speaker 11: down in July. Jobs, health and homes are Labour's focus

490
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Speaker 11: as leader Chris Hipkins outlines priorities looking to the next election.

491
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Speaker 11: A reshuffle includes jan Tinetti giving education to Willow gen

492
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Speaker 11: Prime and new roles focusing on the economy. An Auckland

493
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Speaker 11: businessman whose bank account was used for an overseas term

494
00:24:00,373 --> 00:24:04,653
Speaker 11: deposit scam, stealing nearly two million dollars, has been found

495
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Speaker 11: guilty of money laundering. Cyclone Alfred is king of punch

496
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Speaker 11: in Australia well before even reaching Queensland and New South Wales,

497
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Speaker 11: wins are topping one hundred kilometers an hour and powers

498
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Speaker 11: out for tens of thousands with widespread evacuation orders. Cantabrians

499
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Speaker 11: are being warned of high levels of fecal bacteria at

500
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Speaker 11: Banks Peninsula's Caspey Duvauchell Bay and Tiko Bay. People should

501
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Speaker 11: stay away until at least two days after heavy rain.

502
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Speaker 11: Elliott Smith on how mo onea Pacifica may have pulled

503
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Speaker 11: off the heightst of the Super Rugby season. You can

504
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Speaker 11: see his full column at enzid Herald Premium. Back to

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Speaker 11: Matteth and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much Raillan, and we're talking about here

507
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Speaker 3: in New Zealand. Do you still rate it as our

508
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Speaker 3: national airline? On the back of Greg Forum resigning and

509
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Speaker 3: has he done a good job during his tenure?

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Speaker 2: God an email here, Hi, Matt and Tyler always listen

511
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Speaker 2: in when I can from Bali after leaving New Zealand

512
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Speaker 2: last year. I have been an elite member with in

513
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Speaker 2: New Zealand for over a decade and have three banked

514
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Speaker 2: years left. I won't fly with them internationally and its

515
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Speaker 2: it's the direct route to Auckland from BA. There are

516
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Speaker 2: other airlines that proled much better value for money and

517
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Speaker 2: for comparable, if not better prices. Used to fly domestically

518
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Speaker 2: at least forty times a year with their New Zealand

519
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Speaker 2: The snacks are a joke and it doesn't compare with

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Speaker 2: other airlines operating in Asia and Europe. Not a fan

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Speaker 2: of US carriers. Keep it up, guys, you had a

522
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Speaker 2: great vibe to Kiwi days. Thank you from Bali. That's

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Speaker 2: from Chris, thank you for your email. I'll tell you

524
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Speaker 2: what you know. If you think domestic flight in New

525
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Speaker 2: Zealand is a problem, flying domestically in the United States,

526
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Speaker 2: those airlines, it's absolutely horrific. I mean you've seen you

527
00:25:43,653 --> 00:25:46,053
Speaker 2: might have seen that South Back episode about that mode

528
00:25:46,093 --> 00:25:49,773
Speaker 2: of transport that was yeah, which better and were terrible

529
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Speaker 2: things happened to you while you're rolling along the ground.

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Speaker 2: But it's horrible just getting on the plane the fight

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Speaker 2: to get your bags into the overhead lockers. Everyone's trying

532
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Speaker 2: to ram something in like it's meet. The end of

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Speaker 2: Meet the parents is their domestic airlines are horrible.

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Speaker 3: Some of those aircraft as well just timpots, are they?

535
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Speaker 3: They are old airs and kind of falling apart. Had

536
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Speaker 3: a flight from LA to Seattle and man, that was

537
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Speaker 3: a terrible aircraft. But our one hundred eighties and eighty

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Speaker 3: is the number called Tom. How are you?

539
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Speaker 6: Yeah, not too bad?

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Speaker 17: Thanks, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thanks for giving us a buzz here.

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Speaker 2: A family mender has had a problem recently.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, my son and his girlfriend were on a return

544
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Speaker 17: trip from here back to the States because that's where

545
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Speaker 17: they work, and their trials started on the ground here

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Speaker 17: in Dunedin. Because the girlfriend is a very very frequent

547
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Speaker 17: flyer in the States and she's has access to her

548
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Speaker 17: a number of different benefits, one of which was that

549
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Speaker 17: she's not sort of subjected to the baggage limits, you know,

550
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Speaker 17: and the people on the ground here, first of all,

551
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Speaker 17: would refuse to acknowledge those benefits for her, and they

552
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Speaker 17: gave her a lot of uphill, but in the end

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Speaker 17: they relented and so she got her baggagehn which that

554
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Speaker 17: was the first bad impression that she got for in

555
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Speaker 17: New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: That was that Mammona Airport.

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Speaker 17: I think it was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 17: So then they got to Auckland and they played a

560
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Speaker 17: little bit extra on the tickets for seats, which give

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Speaker 17: them a little bit more leg grew. Now their bookings

562
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Speaker 17: were not honored and they were given seats in the

563
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Speaker 17: plane which were separate from each other. So they complained

564
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Speaker 17: about that, and then they were given seats at last,

565
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Speaker 17: together all the time, of course arguing their case, and

566
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Speaker 17: then the plane they were on it seemed that all

567
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Speaker 17: they were told was a plane that in New Zealand

568
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Speaker 17: was leasing or hiring or something from specific and the seats,

569
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Speaker 17: the seats were designed for people of a smaller stature,

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Speaker 17: and they had a hell of an uncomfortable trip because

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Speaker 17: I mean, while they're not hugely massive people, they're sort

572
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Speaker 17: of marginally above average size. I mean, he's about six

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Speaker 17: foot two and she's probably I don't know, five foot

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Speaker 17: eight or something. But they just had a most uncomfortable

575
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Speaker 17: trip in seats which are far far too tight for them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's what that's what in New Zealand's

577
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Speaker 2: having to do, isn't it, because they just don't have

578
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Speaker 2: the capacity, so they're having to lease planes from other

579
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Speaker 2: airlines that may not be to their specifications for their

580
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Speaker 2: high standards and continue on. Tom. Sorry, So my.

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Speaker 17: Son, you know, he's a Kiwi and he's only just

582
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Speaker 17: recently got his US citizenship as well, but he's still

583
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Speaker 17: got very patriotic feels a lot for New Zealand. But

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00:28:45,493 --> 00:28:48,293
Speaker 17: he was a little bit pisto frankly because he doesn't

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Speaker 17: believe that his girlfriend's ever going to fly news in

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Speaker 17: New Zealand again, you know, So he.

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Speaker 2: Was embarrassed for his natural carrier.

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Speaker 17: Well he was really yeah, yeah, And I don't know

589
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Speaker 17: if they'll I don't know if they'll get them to

590
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Speaker 17: fly that that way again unless they can up their

591
00:29:01,773 --> 00:29:02,213
Speaker 17: game a bit.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because so many people are texting that throw

593
00:29:05,733 --> 00:29:07,453
Speaker 2: that they want to be proud of in New Zealand

594
00:29:07,493 --> 00:29:09,413
Speaker 2: and have been proud of you in New Zealand. So,

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00:29:09,733 --> 00:29:12,093
Speaker 2: you know, in New Zealand bounces back and sorts out

596
00:29:12,093 --> 00:29:13,613
Speaker 2: all his problems. I think a lot of people will

597
00:29:13,693 --> 00:29:16,653
Speaker 2: jump on board and love it. And there's nothing like

598
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Speaker 2: when you've been living in another country for a long time,

599
00:29:18,933 --> 00:29:21,413
Speaker 2: doesn't all say for in New Zealand, there's nothing like

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Speaker 2: when you've been living in London or whatever for a

601
00:29:23,613 --> 00:29:25,693
Speaker 2: long time. You get on the plane and the first

602
00:29:25,693 --> 00:29:28,973
Speaker 2: time you hear that Kiwi accent from the pilot or

603
00:29:29,533 --> 00:29:32,613
Speaker 2: from Kevin Crew. You know, there's been times I've nearly

604
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Speaker 2: cried of world up and also laughed. It sounds so

605
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Speaker 2: ridiculous hearing that voice came through for a long time,

606
00:29:38,853 --> 00:29:41,733
Speaker 2: but it's a nice feeling. It you feel like, you know,

607
00:29:41,853 --> 00:29:43,773
Speaker 2: at its peak with the in New Zealand, you felt

608
00:29:43,813 --> 00:29:45,653
Speaker 2: like you were at home when you got on the

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Speaker 2: plane at Heathrow.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, so am I called really not so much like

611
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Speaker 17: a complaint as such, but just an appeal to try

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Speaker 17: and lift the bloody bury the boundaries again and getting

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Speaker 17: us get up to where we were.

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Speaker 2: Nicely, thank you so much for your cool.

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Speaker 3: You're right on the loyalty, but I think loyalty only

616
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Speaker 3: go so far. Is it easy to get back once

617
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Speaker 3: you lose that loyalty? I think it's real tough to

618
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Speaker 3: get back.

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Speaker 2: How many hundreds of dollars is the loyalty? Yeah, except

620
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Speaker 2: in the difference of fears.

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Speaker 3: If they stitch me five hundred bucks loyalty. God, that's

622
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Speaker 3: my price. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

623
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Speaker 3: to call. Nineteen ninety two is the text number. It

624
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Speaker 3: is eighteen to two.

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00:30:22,413 --> 00:30:24,453
Speaker 2: Yeah. Are you still loyalty in New Zealand? And you

626
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Speaker 2: think that fourun did a good job or not?

627
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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred and eighteen eighty.

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Speaker 1: Matteath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 1: ten eighty Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo XC

631
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Speaker 1: ninety tick every box, a seamless experience, awaits news talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be good afternoon. Do you still rate in New

633
00:30:43,773 --> 00:30:46,693
Speaker 3: Zealand as our national airline? Indeed did Greg four and

634
00:30:46,733 --> 00:30:47,333
Speaker 3: do a good job?

635
00:30:47,373 --> 00:30:50,533
Speaker 2: As CEO Herman doesn't rate in New Zealand anymore. Guys.

636
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Speaker 2: When booking overseas flights, we specifically avoid any flights operated

637
00:30:54,133 --> 00:30:58,053
Speaker 2: by in New Zealand. Too many shockers in elastic few years.

638
00:30:58,133 --> 00:30:59,693
Speaker 2: In the last few years it's come up as an

639
00:30:59,693 --> 00:31:03,333
Speaker 2: elastic few years. It's interesting. One twelve hour flight they

640
00:31:03,453 --> 00:31:08,893
Speaker 2: ran out of panhead after first seven panhead, Oh dear,

641
00:31:09,013 --> 00:31:10,653
Speaker 2: then they ran out of pan.

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00:31:10,733 --> 00:31:15,093
Speaker 3: That is a tragedy. Yeah, guys, I only fly in

643
00:31:15,133 --> 00:31:18,413
Speaker 3: New Zealand if we hadn't had a national carrier during COVID,

644
00:31:18,453 --> 00:31:21,093
Speaker 3: and I'm not sure how all of that would have

645
00:31:21,133 --> 00:31:25,093
Speaker 3: gone with our supply chain, communication, essentral travel, etc. When

646
00:31:25,133 --> 00:31:27,813
Speaker 3: I get on boardy in New Zealand and America or Australia,

647
00:31:27,893 --> 00:31:29,453
Speaker 3: I already feel like I'm home.

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00:31:29,693 --> 00:31:31,453
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's what I say is but you know,

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00:31:31,573 --> 00:31:34,173
Speaker 2: they are a national carrier, and you know, if you

650
00:31:34,293 --> 00:31:38,453
Speaker 2: look at flights as bridges to other nations, as some

651
00:31:38,573 --> 00:31:41,533
Speaker 2: have been using the metaphor around in New Zealand, they

652
00:31:41,653 --> 00:31:43,813
Speaker 2: closed down a lot of bridges. They shut down a

653
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Speaker 2: lot of.

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Speaker 3: Bridges, most of them, most of them actually, yeah.

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Speaker 2: There's not very many bridges, which makes it harder for

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Speaker 2: people to get in and out of our country.

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Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely, Neil, how are you this.

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Speaker 18: Afternoon to bad guys?

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Speaker 6: Hey, I just wanted to say that I've been flying

660
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Speaker 6: in zeal for most sixty years. At the back of

661
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Speaker 6: the day, in fact, used to be caught teal t

662
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Speaker 6: e a l Yeah, and they became I've done about

663
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Speaker 6: forty five to fifty return flights between New Zealand and

664
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Speaker 6: North America. I'm also flying around South America Central America,

665
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Speaker 6: North Africa, Europe and so on. So I've done a

666
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Speaker 6: bit of comparison, and overall, I reckon in New Zealand

667
00:32:21,253 --> 00:32:23,253
Speaker 6: is pretty good. I don't get put off by one

668
00:32:23,333 --> 00:32:27,893
Speaker 6: solitary incident. I'm looking at the bigger picture. One thing

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Speaker 6: that's been a pretty consistent a dissatisfaction has been their meals.

670
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Speaker 6: They were really mediocre. I mean they weren't terrible, but

671
00:32:38,213 --> 00:32:41,413
Speaker 6: they weren't very good either. But I just made return

672
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Speaker 6: flight earlier this year between North America and New Zealand,

673
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Speaker 6: and I noticed that the menu is being completely changed

674
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Speaker 6: and it was a big improvement. The plane itself was

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Speaker 6: I guess A seven eighty seven I think it was.

676
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Speaker 6: Was appeared to be refurbished, so it was quite good.

677
00:33:03,053 --> 00:33:06,493
Speaker 6: I don't have any problem with the staff. Last year

678
00:33:06,573 --> 00:33:10,053
Speaker 6: we did have one sin the problem, but I don't

679
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Speaker 6: really want to tire and fair of the whole airline

680
00:33:12,373 --> 00:33:16,973
Speaker 6: because of one three uh incident. You know, I'm the

681
00:33:17,053 --> 00:33:20,813
Speaker 6: Kiwi and and I do feel as I think some

682
00:33:20,853 --> 00:33:24,013
Speaker 6: of your Texters have said about how when they get

683
00:33:24,013 --> 00:33:28,453
Speaker 6: on the plane it's it's almost a sentimental So yeah,

684
00:33:28,733 --> 00:33:32,053
Speaker 6: so that's that's the way I feel. Yeah, what if.

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Speaker 2: You don't mind me asking, Neil, what class do you fly?

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Speaker 17: Uh?

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Speaker 6: Well, we've flown a business class a few times that

688
00:33:39,853 --> 00:33:43,013
Speaker 6: we sympapally fly a cattle class. You know, the fears

689
00:33:43,013 --> 00:33:47,053
Speaker 6: are quite expensive. We probably save a few bucks if

690
00:33:47,053 --> 00:33:52,693
Speaker 6: we if we flew maybe Air Pacific, uh for example.

691
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Speaker 6: But but then, like I say, I don't just look

692
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Speaker 6: at the fair entirely. I look at the you know,

693
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Speaker 6: the record of the airline. I know recently probably some

694
00:34:02,493 --> 00:34:05,853
Speaker 6: people have had some other problems for the ZELD, but

695
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Speaker 6: but I'm really looking at the very big picture over

696
00:34:09,573 --> 00:34:12,652
Speaker 6: the years, and it's it's very rare that we've had

697
00:34:12,652 --> 00:34:14,933
Speaker 6: a problem. And I say, I've been flying with them

698
00:34:14,973 --> 00:34:17,573
Speaker 6: for almost sixty years. Good on you and done and

699
00:34:17,653 --> 00:34:21,613
Speaker 6: done lots and lots of long haor flights. So you know,

700
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Speaker 6: I think being being reasonable in terms of if if

701
00:34:27,813 --> 00:34:30,173
Speaker 6: ninety nine percent of the time things are fine.

702
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Speaker 2: I mean, you can't expect things to be perfect all

703
00:34:32,373 --> 00:34:34,013
Speaker 2: the time. Now, Neil, I've got to just a question

704
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Speaker 2: that's slightly off topic here, But you say you've been

705
00:34:36,733 --> 00:34:40,893
Speaker 2: flying for sixty years, did you fly internationally Back in

706
00:34:40,933 --> 00:34:44,133
Speaker 2: the Lily Lily padding days where it took you know,

707
00:34:44,173 --> 00:34:47,093
Speaker 2: you're just flying small distances and you know right through

708
00:34:47,293 --> 00:34:49,293
Speaker 2: you know, stuff to go through Cook Islands into Tahiti

709
00:34:49,333 --> 00:34:51,493
Speaker 2: and such to get overseas.

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00:34:52,773 --> 00:34:52,973
Speaker 18: Well.

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00:34:53,013 --> 00:34:56,573
Speaker 6: I did fly to the Pacific Islands on occasion. But

712
00:34:56,733 --> 00:34:58,453
Speaker 6: what was your question exactly just.

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Speaker 2: Back in the day, as you're saying me flying right

714
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Speaker 2: back to the teal days, were you flying internationally back

715
00:35:05,413 --> 00:35:08,413
Speaker 2: back in you know when when you know fly, it

716
00:35:08,533 --> 00:35:11,333
Speaker 2: didn't go as far as you know you wouldn't. They

717
00:35:11,373 --> 00:35:12,893
Speaker 2: didn't go as far as Los Angeles. You used to

718
00:35:12,893 --> 00:35:16,333
Speaker 2: have the lily pad across a bunch of different airports

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Speaker 2: to get there. Were you flying in those days?

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Speaker 6: That's true? Yes, I did fly one occasion from from

721
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Speaker 6: Owner's Heiland to Fiji to Western Samoa to the American

722
00:35:30,893 --> 00:35:34,133
Speaker 6: I believe, from not Apia and then from Apia over

723
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Speaker 6: to to Tahiti and then from Tahitis to Los Angeles.

724
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Speaker 2: Needs to be crazy in.

725
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Speaker 6: Los Angeles and Los Angeles up to Vancouver. And in fact,

726
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Speaker 6: the plane that I flew from Fiji to Fiji to

727
00:35:48,253 --> 00:35:52,293
Speaker 6: samo on was I think a DC six that was

728
00:35:52,333 --> 00:35:54,893
Speaker 6: back in the old propeller days. The one thing that

729
00:35:54,973 --> 00:35:57,573
Speaker 6: I was really pleased to see was the jets that

730
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Speaker 6: come in and things are sped up quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much, Neil. Yeah, that's the thing.

732
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Speaker 2: I mean we complained about flights, but the fact that

733
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Speaker 2: you can blast straight from Auckland to JFK, yeah when

734
00:36:09,333 --> 00:36:12,053
Speaker 2: you used to have to go through Ireland, hopping all

735
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Speaker 2: the way to get to So sometimes we forget how

736
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Speaker 2: lucky we got it.

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Speaker 3: The DC T Could you smoke on those? I think

738
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Speaker 3: you could?

739
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, mate, you could smoke. You could smoke right

740
00:36:23,053 --> 00:36:25,853
Speaker 2: up till the Actually, that's good question. Nineteen niney two

741
00:36:25,853 --> 00:36:27,813
Speaker 2: does someone know when they stopped smoking on the New

742
00:36:27,853 --> 00:36:30,653
Speaker 2: Zealand flights? Because that was crazy smoking?

743
00:36:30,733 --> 00:36:31,413
Speaker 3: How crazy is that?

744
00:36:31,493 --> 00:36:34,333
Speaker 2: Smoking? On any smoking and not smoking? And you know

745
00:36:34,333 --> 00:36:37,413
Speaker 2: there's no division between the the smoke traveled.

746
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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is a number call?

747
00:36:39,733 --> 00:36:41,693
Speaker 3: Do you still rate in New Zealand? And how do

748
00:36:41,733 --> 00:36:44,133
Speaker 3: you think? Greek four? And did as CEO loved to

749
00:36:44,173 --> 00:36:44,573
Speaker 3: hear from you?

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Speaker 19: Nine to two Mattith Taylor Adams taking your calls on

751
00:36:49,853 --> 00:36:52,853
Speaker 19: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Matten Taylor afternoons with

752
00:36:52,933 --> 00:36:57,053
Speaker 19: the Volvo xc N eighty tick every box a seamless experience,

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Speaker 19: awaits news talks, B.

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Speaker 3: News talks there be it is six to two Peter

755
00:37:02,413 --> 00:37:03,173
Speaker 3: Good afternoon.

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00:37:04,253 --> 00:37:09,453
Speaker 20: Well domestically I used to get the crew from the

757
00:37:09,533 --> 00:37:13,213
Speaker 20: credit card. I don't get that anymore. Between Christians and Wellington,

758
00:37:13,253 --> 00:37:16,253
Speaker 20: I would prefer a jet service rather than turboprop, even

759
00:37:16,293 --> 00:37:20,933
Speaker 20: though sometimes jets to operate the route. At the morning

760
00:37:20,973 --> 00:37:24,692
Speaker 20: tea from retired pilots, they were saying that some of

761
00:37:24,693 --> 00:37:27,093
Speaker 20: them didn't think the catering was very good based on

762
00:37:27,173 --> 00:37:31,493
Speaker 20: recent experiences, and the cabin crew members thought the catering

763
00:37:32,133 --> 00:37:35,253
Speaker 20: was for what people pay for business class and other things.

764
00:37:35,533 --> 00:37:37,692
Speaker 20: They didn't think the catering was up to standard. And

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Speaker 20: I don't know if that applies to the lounges as well.

766
00:37:41,053 --> 00:37:44,573
Speaker 20: So if you're running an airline on a cost efficient basis,

767
00:37:44,573 --> 00:37:47,773
Speaker 20: you know, cutting out orange Juwish years ago would have

768
00:37:47,813 --> 00:37:50,333
Speaker 20: saved you hundreds of thousands of dollars just on a

769
00:37:50,373 --> 00:37:54,773
Speaker 20: small run, not not serving any catering at all. You know,

770
00:37:54,813 --> 00:38:00,053
Speaker 20: it's very cost effective. So the current CEO, he sort

771
00:38:00,093 --> 00:38:03,253
Speaker 20: of had to join the company under extreme circumstances, was

772
00:38:03,253 --> 00:38:08,053
Speaker 20: a former CEO who's now the Prime Minister, left very

773
00:38:08,093 --> 00:38:12,413
Speaker 20: quick we become a member of parliament. And if you

774
00:38:12,453 --> 00:38:15,853
Speaker 20: look at the history of CEOs Ralph Norris, who's certainly

775
00:38:15,893 --> 00:38:22,133
Speaker 20: made money for the airline. And I believe you know,

776
00:38:22,213 --> 00:38:26,053
Speaker 20: the short departure of the Prime Minister when he was CEO,

777
00:38:26,373 --> 00:38:28,333
Speaker 20: he left in a big hurry and if he was

778
00:38:28,373 --> 00:38:33,773
Speaker 20: still there, you know, his copybook would have been, you know,

779
00:38:34,733 --> 00:38:38,333
Speaker 20: sort of not look good because of the COVID situation

780
00:38:38,733 --> 00:38:44,373
Speaker 20: happening worldwide. So I don't think end Zone really is

781
00:38:44,453 --> 00:38:47,812
Speaker 20: up to standard. Last time I did a big international trip,

782
00:38:47,853 --> 00:38:51,293
Speaker 20: I went on China Southern. I do like the Dreamline, don't.

783
00:38:51,293 --> 00:38:53,133
Speaker 20: I think it's the best aircraft in New Zone have

784
00:38:54,013 --> 00:38:58,692
Speaker 20: I don't like the other aircraft. But if you don't,

785
00:38:58,853 --> 00:39:01,893
Speaker 20: you know, give a premium service. It's hard to get

786
00:39:01,893 --> 00:39:03,613
Speaker 20: a premium price and very.

787
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll keep this conversation going on after the news

788
00:39:07,973 --> 00:39:10,053
Speaker 2: because so many texts and calls coming through. We need

789
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Speaker 2: to get to So one hundred and eighty ten eighty

790
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Speaker 2: in New Zealand do you rate it? Greg?

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Speaker 5: Four?

792
00:39:15,013 --> 00:39:15,933
Speaker 2: And what kind of job did you do?

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Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text number? News sport

794
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Speaker 3: and where they're coming up? You're listening to Matt and Tyler.

795
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Speaker 3: Hope you're having a great Friday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Your new home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie

797
00:40:03,533 --> 00:40:07,533
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety on

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Speaker 1: News Talk.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, welcome back into the show. Been having an

800
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Speaker 3: interesting chance about the state of air New Zealand and

801
00:40:15,133 --> 00:40:17,212
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five on the back of course of Greg

802
00:40:17,253 --> 00:40:19,772
Speaker 3: four and resigning. He will see out his term till

803
00:40:19,813 --> 00:40:22,373
Speaker 3: October before they find another CEO. But it has been

804
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Speaker 3: a challenge for Greek.

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00:40:23,293 --> 00:40:27,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got capacity issues, they've got engine issues, they've

806
00:40:27,773 --> 00:40:31,773
Speaker 2: got a lack of planes. He had the helm, he

807
00:40:31,853 --> 00:40:35,053
Speaker 2: had the stick through COVID, so he faced a lot

808
00:40:35,053 --> 00:40:38,293
Speaker 2: of challenges. But you'd say that in New Zealand's currently

809
00:40:38,333 --> 00:40:43,812
Speaker 2: sitting below its peaks analogy to put it. It's good

810
00:40:44,333 --> 00:40:47,453
Speaker 2: it's flying at twenty four thousand feet.

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Speaker 3: Yep, another six thousand ago before that's back to twenty

812
00:40:50,373 --> 00:40:51,093
Speaker 3: nineteen levels.

813
00:40:51,253 --> 00:40:54,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, they ever flying at thirty four thousand feet.

814
00:40:54,453 --> 00:40:58,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, some great teams coming through on nine to nine two.

815
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Speaker 2: Recently for around the world used many different airlines of

816
00:41:02,093 --> 00:41:03,973
Speaker 2: different caliber, and I must say in New Zealand was

817
00:41:03,973 --> 00:41:06,973
Speaker 2: the most deflating. The airline was nice, but the service

818
00:41:07,053 --> 00:41:10,613
Speaker 2: wasn't good at all. To lack the luster nowadays, which

819
00:41:10,693 --> 00:41:12,653
Speaker 2: is a pity because I love New Zealand.

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00:41:12,693 --> 00:41:15,493
Speaker 3: So thanks the luster, lovely turn a phrase that's.

821
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Speaker 2: Funny because you say lack luster. Yeah, I've never heard

822
00:41:17,413 --> 00:41:18,213
Speaker 2: him say they lack.

823
00:41:18,733 --> 00:41:20,652
Speaker 3: Lack the luster. Yeah, very clear.

824
00:41:20,653 --> 00:41:22,773
Speaker 2: I would never fly in New Zealand again. After flying

825
00:41:22,893 --> 00:41:26,133
Speaker 2: up to Hawaii on arrival, landed terminal miles from the

826
00:41:26,133 --> 00:41:28,973
Speaker 2: main exit, no proper signage to find bags on leaving

827
00:41:29,013 --> 00:41:32,373
Speaker 2: some issues, walked miles to find check in, and finally

828
00:41:32,373 --> 00:41:34,333
Speaker 2: found the ticketing in a temporary set up on a

829
00:41:34,373 --> 00:41:37,933
Speaker 2: cardboard box with bag tickets set up, no signage, no info,

830
00:41:38,533 --> 00:41:40,773
Speaker 2: just like we had to ask people all along the airport.

831
00:41:41,013 --> 00:41:43,493
Speaker 2: As for Greg, for and good guy, shame about COVID,

832
00:41:43,533 --> 00:41:45,933
Speaker 2: he has been up against that. I think he has

833
00:41:46,013 --> 00:41:48,172
Speaker 2: done a good job. But noticed a few weeks ago

834
00:41:48,213 --> 00:41:49,733
Speaker 2: when he was speaking to Mike on the show he

835
00:41:49,813 --> 00:41:53,813
Speaker 2: sounded drained and exasperated. No surprise he decided to go.

836
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, flying out of Hawaii, it's a

837
00:41:57,693 --> 00:42:01,652
Speaker 2: disappointing quarto experience, is it? Yeah? Because it's shared with

838
00:42:01,813 --> 00:42:04,413
Speaker 2: another airline. I mean, it's a nice quado, but you

839
00:42:04,573 --> 00:42:07,533
Speaker 2: basically have to sign forms and triplicate to get in.

840
00:42:07,773 --> 00:42:10,773
Speaker 2: Right in my experience, who's the other airline I'm just

841
00:42:10,813 --> 00:42:13,133
Speaker 2: trying to think now, is that American airlines? American?

842
00:42:13,253 --> 00:42:13,613
Speaker 7: American?

843
00:42:14,253 --> 00:42:16,533
Speaker 2: Sure with some of the American airlines. And look, in

844
00:42:16,613 --> 00:42:18,093
Speaker 2: my experience a couple of times trying to get in

845
00:42:18,133 --> 00:42:21,093
Speaker 2: the coddo there and look this is poor me. That

846
00:42:21,733 --> 00:42:24,293
Speaker 2: was rough. Yeah, chorus sounds that what was a buffet

847
00:42:24,333 --> 00:42:25,133
Speaker 2: like buffo?

848
00:42:25,173 --> 00:42:25,373
Speaker 5: Was good?

849
00:42:25,533 --> 00:42:27,333
Speaker 3: Was it good? Okay? Yeah, well that's that's something.

850
00:42:27,933 --> 00:42:30,453
Speaker 2: And I ran into malacho for Katoa in the the

851
00:42:30,453 --> 00:42:32,453
Speaker 2: the and that a lot of the cora.

852
00:42:32,573 --> 00:42:34,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, it all worked out in the end, Andred he

853
00:42:34,453 --> 00:42:37,772
Speaker 3: gave me the evils. Ten eighty is the number of call?

854
00:42:38,013 --> 00:42:40,893
Speaker 3: How do you rate Air New Zealand and twenty twenty five?

855
00:42:41,333 --> 00:42:43,813
Speaker 3: And how do you think Greek four? And did as

856
00:42:43,853 --> 00:42:45,133
Speaker 3: Ceo loved to hear from you?

857
00:42:45,173 --> 00:42:46,933
Speaker 2: Hey guys, you so still rate in New Zealand. They

858
00:42:46,933 --> 00:42:49,613
Speaker 2: don't tend to land and run into brick walls, run

859
00:42:49,613 --> 00:42:51,853
Speaker 2: into helicopters, all get shot down by Russians. Love the

860
00:42:51,893 --> 00:42:54,973
Speaker 2: show cam, Yeah, okay, none of that stuff has happened

861
00:42:54,973 --> 00:42:55,693
Speaker 2: in New Zealand.

862
00:42:55,733 --> 00:43:00,253
Speaker 3: Play yeah, thank god, Yeah, Jason, how are you this afternoon?

863
00:43:01,493 --> 00:43:02,212
Speaker 8: Hey, good chips.

864
00:43:02,253 --> 00:43:04,173
Speaker 21: He just isn't it funny how we could all probably

865
00:43:04,213 --> 00:43:06,573
Speaker 21: travel on the same junior within New Zealand to the

866
00:43:06,573 --> 00:43:11,533
Speaker 21: same destination and all have opinions on the quality that

867
00:43:11,533 --> 00:43:14,013
Speaker 21: that last one you read out before was just just

868
00:43:14,133 --> 00:43:18,172
Speaker 21: absolute one, you know, completely one addy to my experiences.

869
00:43:18,213 --> 00:43:21,853
Speaker 21: But hey, isn't it terms of grade four and first?

870
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Speaker 21: And there's two comments I want to make for me.

871
00:43:24,213 --> 00:43:26,813
Speaker 21: He sort of was the right guy at the wrong time.

872
00:43:26,853 --> 00:43:29,373
Speaker 21: And I mean that in the sense of he arrived

873
00:43:29,413 --> 00:43:32,173
Speaker 21: at in New Zealand pretty much at the time COVID arrived.

874
00:43:32,173 --> 00:43:35,253
Speaker 21: And you know, there's three real hardest jobs in New

875
00:43:35,373 --> 00:43:37,772
Speaker 21: Zealand I put is, you know, one's being the coach

876
00:43:37,813 --> 00:43:43,133
Speaker 21: of the All Blacks, one's being I can't remember the one,

877
00:43:43,213 --> 00:43:46,213
Speaker 21: the other one is ce of in New Zealand.

878
00:43:46,413 --> 00:43:47,573
Speaker 16: And it's like, well, you.

879
00:43:47,533 --> 00:43:49,693
Speaker 2: Know, as the third one as the third one not

880
00:43:49,733 --> 00:43:50,652
Speaker 2: the prime minister.

881
00:43:51,093 --> 00:43:53,413
Speaker 21: And the third one being the prime minister, the thee

882
00:43:53,493 --> 00:43:56,732
Speaker 21: of in New Zealand probably number two because at least

883
00:43:56,773 --> 00:43:58,973
Speaker 21: with the Prime Minister, you know, you get to get

884
00:43:58,973 --> 00:44:03,933
Speaker 21: out of it every four years or three years.

885
00:44:00,933 --> 00:44:01,172
Speaker 2: Sorry.

886
00:44:04,373 --> 00:44:07,732
Speaker 21: Yeah, in terms of experiences and everything, you know, as

887
00:44:07,773 --> 00:44:11,613
Speaker 21: a proud dad of a son who's recently within the

888
00:44:11,653 --> 00:44:14,173
Speaker 21: last twelve months joined in New Zealand as a pilot,

889
00:44:14,213 --> 00:44:16,533
Speaker 21: there was nothing more prouder to see.

890
00:44:17,413 --> 00:44:18,253
Speaker 8: I don't know, there's.

891
00:44:18,093 --> 00:44:19,933
Speaker 21: Something about it in terms of being national.

892
00:44:20,013 --> 00:44:20,413
Speaker 7: Carry on.

893
00:44:20,693 --> 00:44:25,133
Speaker 21: We did the New York sixteen hour one direct you know,

894
00:44:25,333 --> 00:44:27,453
Speaker 21: a few couple of years ago when it first came out,

895
00:44:27,493 --> 00:44:30,573
Speaker 21: and like you touched on before the news this or something,

896
00:44:30,933 --> 00:44:32,293
Speaker 21: I don't know what it is. When you get off

897
00:44:32,333 --> 00:44:34,773
Speaker 21: there with your fellow crew from New Zealand and you're

898
00:44:34,853 --> 00:44:36,813
Speaker 21: on the other side of the world, it just gives

899
00:44:36,853 --> 00:44:41,373
Speaker 21: you that sense of euphoria and proud to be proud

900
00:44:41,413 --> 00:44:43,453
Speaker 21: to be a Kiwi sort of thing. And I think

901
00:44:43,453 --> 00:44:46,093
Speaker 21: it'll come back. I think they've lost their way on

902
00:44:46,133 --> 00:44:50,692
Speaker 21: the national sorry regional network, and that they probably thought, well,

903
00:44:50,693 --> 00:44:52,933
Speaker 21: we can charge whatever we like and we'll still get

904
00:44:53,333 --> 00:44:55,172
Speaker 21: you know, people still fly with us. I think that's

905
00:44:55,173 --> 00:44:58,653
Speaker 21: a real big work on for whoever follows Greg fourant

906
00:44:59,813 --> 00:45:03,093
Speaker 21: is to win that businessman back again, because that's something

907
00:45:03,173 --> 00:45:06,172
Speaker 21: I've really had the gut sat with over the last

908
00:45:06,253 --> 00:45:09,373
Speaker 21: couple of years. You know, four hundred dollars Wellington versus

909
00:45:09,493 --> 00:45:11,133
Speaker 21: eighty dollars Jet Star type.

910
00:45:10,893 --> 00:45:14,613
Speaker 2: Saying yeah, isn't an It's a huge difference and as

911
00:45:14,653 --> 00:45:16,733
Speaker 2: interesting though, Jason, going back to what you said before

912
00:45:16,773 --> 00:45:20,493
Speaker 2: that the three, you know, I guess most prestigious jobs

913
00:45:21,173 --> 00:45:25,973
Speaker 2: prime minister, Cooly in New Zealand all but coach. All

914
00:45:26,053 --> 00:45:28,053
Speaker 2: very tough jobs. But that's what you assly to you

915
00:45:28,093 --> 00:45:30,652
Speaker 2: aspired to tough jobs. I think the Prime Minister would probably

916
00:45:30,693 --> 00:45:32,573
Speaker 2: be the toughest out of those three. The amount of

917
00:45:32,653 --> 00:45:34,373
Speaker 2: variables coming at you as prime minister.

918
00:45:34,613 --> 00:45:36,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there was you know, I heard some analysis

919
00:45:37,013 --> 00:45:38,933
Speaker 3: about Greg four and and Adrian or we don't want

920
00:45:38,973 --> 00:45:40,333
Speaker 3: to get into Adriam, but you know a lot of

921
00:45:40,333 --> 00:45:43,133
Speaker 3: people saying when you get to that level of the

922
00:45:43,173 --> 00:45:46,533
Speaker 3: corporate world or the in the Adrian's case, the Reserve Bank,

923
00:45:46,893 --> 00:45:49,493
Speaker 3: that is what you want in life. You want challenges

924
00:45:49,773 --> 00:45:52,053
Speaker 3: and you want some hurdles in front of you. But

925
00:45:52,133 --> 00:45:54,213
Speaker 3: I don't know who Greek four and really wanted what

926
00:45:54,333 --> 00:45:55,333
Speaker 3: he got in there.

927
00:45:55,493 --> 00:45:59,933
Speaker 2: Well, there's also a premium premium special hyper flash corrow

928
00:46:00,013 --> 00:46:01,773
Speaker 2: as well. When you're flying that we don't even know

929
00:46:01,773 --> 00:46:04,172
Speaker 2: about us mortals don't even know about Hey, Jason, you're saying,

930
00:46:04,213 --> 00:46:05,933
Speaker 2: did you say that your son had become a pilot

931
00:46:06,213 --> 00:46:07,653
Speaker 2: as a New Zealand pilot.

932
00:46:07,693 --> 00:46:10,493
Speaker 21: Now, yeah, we went through that journey, you know, the

933
00:46:10,533 --> 00:46:13,733
Speaker 21: financial burden of trying to get a person into aviation

934
00:46:14,013 --> 00:46:16,933
Speaker 21: and all that stuff, and honestly, mate the time when

935
00:46:16,933 --> 00:46:19,053
Speaker 21: he when we're overseas on that trip I mentioned when

936
00:46:19,053 --> 00:46:21,293
Speaker 21: we've got the news he had been successful, it was

937
00:46:21,293 --> 00:46:25,252
Speaker 21: the most proudest moment probably in my life. That's wicked, Yeah,

938
00:46:25,373 --> 00:46:27,493
Speaker 21: it's wicked, and it's like, you know, yes, he could

939
00:46:27,493 --> 00:46:30,293
Speaker 21: earn probably three times more flying for another you know,

940
00:46:30,293 --> 00:46:33,373
Speaker 21: in Emirates or double for Quannas. But you've got to

941
00:46:33,373 --> 00:46:35,933
Speaker 21: remember too that in New Zealand's got the toughest entry

942
00:46:35,973 --> 00:46:38,213
Speaker 21: requirements of all the world aviation.

943
00:46:37,893 --> 00:46:41,453
Speaker 2: Airlines, great safety record. Did he go through the Air

944
00:46:41,493 --> 00:46:43,933
Speaker 2: Force wale or privately trained?

945
00:46:44,493 --> 00:46:44,533
Speaker 7: No?

946
00:46:44,653 --> 00:46:48,213
Speaker 21: I went through the pathway through the you know, the

947
00:46:48,253 --> 00:46:53,453
Speaker 21: pilot what do you call it, the affiliate private scheme?

948
00:46:53,533 --> 00:46:55,533
Speaker 21: But you know, you get left with a massive amount

949
00:46:55,573 --> 00:46:57,493
Speaker 21: of short hours and you've got to fight. You've got

950
00:46:57,533 --> 00:46:58,053
Speaker 21: to finance that.

951
00:46:58,093 --> 00:46:59,933
Speaker 2: It's like one hundred and fifty thousand dollars, isn't it.

952
00:46:59,973 --> 00:47:01,212
Speaker 2: By the time you finished.

953
00:47:00,853 --> 00:47:02,613
Speaker 21: There, I think he left with about a two hundred

954
00:47:02,653 --> 00:47:03,613
Speaker 21: thousand stewed alone.

955
00:47:03,653 --> 00:47:06,973
Speaker 2: You know, medicals, more h and what kind of planes

956
00:47:07,053 --> 00:47:07,732
Speaker 2: is he flying? Now?

957
00:47:09,053 --> 00:47:13,652
Speaker 21: You know the turbos, you know the regional Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

958
00:47:13,693 --> 00:47:14,732
Speaker 21: the dashes yep.

959
00:47:14,893 --> 00:47:15,453
Speaker 2: Oh how good?

960
00:47:15,733 --> 00:47:15,973
Speaker 16: Yeah?

961
00:47:16,053 --> 00:47:18,813
Speaker 21: But you know, it's just something you fororic about in

962
00:47:18,813 --> 00:47:19,293
Speaker 21: New Zealand.

963
00:47:19,373 --> 00:47:21,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is, I'll tell you what. Like you know

964
00:47:21,693 --> 00:47:23,533
Speaker 2: I was saying before. You know, when you're in London,

965
00:47:23,573 --> 00:47:25,013
Speaker 2: you've been living over there for a while. This is

966
00:47:25,333 --> 00:47:27,933
Speaker 2: specific to me. And you get on the New Zealand

967
00:47:28,133 --> 00:47:31,173
Speaker 2: Plates flights, you feel very proud just to be in

968
00:47:31,173 --> 00:47:33,213
Speaker 2: New Zealand, to hear the voices and back in the

969
00:47:33,293 --> 00:47:35,013
Speaker 2: day in New Zealand was such a great airline. You're

970
00:47:35,053 --> 00:47:37,692
Speaker 2: so felt proud of about that. But I can't even

971
00:47:37,733 --> 00:47:40,172
Speaker 2: imagine the levels of pride I'd feel that my son

972
00:47:40,373 --> 00:47:42,453
Speaker 2: was a pilot flying for your New Zealand. That must

973
00:47:42,493 --> 00:47:45,093
Speaker 2: be very very cool, Jason, So well done.

974
00:47:45,973 --> 00:47:48,973
Speaker 3: Thanks, thanks guys, thank you very much. Yeah, that would

975
00:47:49,013 --> 00:47:52,893
Speaker 3: be special, wouldn't it. A couple of texts Hi Boys

976
00:47:53,893 --> 00:47:56,692
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight on domestic flights and nineteen ninety six

977
00:47:56,733 --> 00:48:00,533
Speaker 3: on International, Oh, they banned smoking thanks from Dave, we asked.

978
00:48:00,413 --> 00:48:04,252
Speaker 2: The question Little Domestic nineteen ninety six on International isn't

979
00:48:04,253 --> 00:48:06,533
Speaker 2: that crazy? The nineteen ninety six you could still smoke

980
00:48:06,613 --> 00:48:09,613
Speaker 2: SIGs on a plane. Yeah, I mean just seems crazy

981
00:48:09,653 --> 00:48:11,933
Speaker 2: now to me that you one could be walking around

982
00:48:11,933 --> 00:48:14,693
Speaker 2: with little sticks of fire on a plane.

983
00:48:14,773 --> 00:48:17,733
Speaker 3: When did they stop smoking indoors at pubs in New Zealand?

984
00:48:17,733 --> 00:48:20,333
Speaker 3: I remember it was, remember, remember the tenth of December?

985
00:48:21,053 --> 00:48:21,973
Speaker 3: But was it the.

986
00:48:24,293 --> 00:48:25,693
Speaker 2: Cigarette and lighter plot?

987
00:48:26,493 --> 00:48:29,893
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, it was tenth of December though, right, it

988
00:48:29,893 --> 00:48:31,773
Speaker 3: would have been just when I turned eighteen.

989
00:48:31,493 --> 00:48:34,053
Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety two. Let's go to the Oracle of Truth

990
00:48:34,093 --> 00:48:37,053
Speaker 2: and Information. Yeah, I need to get callouses on your

991
00:48:37,053 --> 00:48:39,693
Speaker 2: fingers looking it up on Google. Tyler Paul will tell.

992
00:48:39,573 --> 00:48:42,053
Speaker 3: Us let us know, oh, eight hundred eighty ten and eighty.

993
00:48:42,093 --> 00:48:44,172
Speaker 3: But we will go back to having a chat about

994
00:48:44,173 --> 00:48:46,013
Speaker 3: EAR in New Zealand. Do you still rate it as

995
00:48:46,093 --> 00:48:48,413
Speaker 3: our national airline? And how do you think Greek four?

996
00:48:48,453 --> 00:48:50,733
Speaker 3: And did a ceo? It is quarter past.

997
00:48:50,493 --> 00:48:55,573
Speaker 1: Two, your new home of afternoon talk Matt and Taylor

998
00:48:55,693 --> 00:48:59,413
Speaker 1: Afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into

999
00:48:59,573 --> 00:49:00,413
Speaker 1: something special.

1000
00:49:00,493 --> 00:49:03,413
Speaker 19: Call eight hundred eighty eight news Talk, said B.

1001
00:49:05,293 --> 00:49:08,053
Speaker 3: News Talks hered B it is eighteen past to a

1002
00:49:08,373 --> 00:49:10,893
Speaker 3: truckload of techs coming through a nine to nine two.

1003
00:49:10,893 --> 00:49:13,053
Speaker 2: WI fly in New Zealand domestic to get given a

1004
00:49:13,053 --> 00:49:15,213
Speaker 2: crap coffee and an average snack. Take the risk on

1005
00:49:15,373 --> 00:49:17,813
Speaker 2: Jack's jet Star and spend the money you save on

1006
00:49:17,853 --> 00:49:20,133
Speaker 2: a couple of beers on the flight. Cheers Tim. So

1007
00:49:20,373 --> 00:49:22,133
Speaker 2: you know, take your byo the flight.

1008
00:49:22,333 --> 00:49:24,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do like the Quardu hour low, get a

1009
00:49:24,493 --> 00:49:25,773
Speaker 3: nice class of wine and.

1010
00:49:26,213 --> 00:49:28,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean part of my loyalty to in New

1011
00:49:28,573 --> 00:49:31,613
Speaker 2: Zealand is the corrow, right, Yeah, because I don't want to,

1012
00:49:31,773 --> 00:49:33,333
Speaker 2: you know, left out there.

1013
00:49:33,733 --> 00:49:34,453
Speaker 3: It's good lounge.

1014
00:49:34,493 --> 00:49:36,733
Speaker 2: Actually, I've got to say though airports now, because recently

1015
00:49:36,813 --> 00:49:38,613
Speaker 2: I've been flying and not going into the lounge for

1016
00:49:38,613 --> 00:49:40,293
Speaker 2: there's a couple of reasons why i haven't been able to.

1017
00:49:40,853 --> 00:49:43,333
Speaker 2: And you know, it's actually it's actually all right out there.

1018
00:49:43,773 --> 00:49:45,173
Speaker 2: It's actually pretty good out there.

1019
00:49:45,093 --> 00:49:46,133
Speaker 3: Well outside of the lounges.

1020
00:49:46,213 --> 00:49:48,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that the bars, restaurants are and I mean

1021
00:49:49,253 --> 00:49:52,453
Speaker 2: airport's are pretty flash now all over in New Zealand.

1022
00:49:53,653 --> 00:49:56,253
Speaker 2: Here we go. Recently flew Delta domestic in the States

1023
00:49:56,253 --> 00:49:58,773
Speaker 2: and it was outstanding, from booking to boarding, the flight

1024
00:49:58,813 --> 00:50:01,293
Speaker 2: and the postflight excellent, brilliant. I've been flying with the

1025
00:50:01,293 --> 00:50:04,093
Speaker 2: New Zealand weekly for decades. The past few years experience

1026
00:50:04,133 --> 00:50:05,812
Speaker 2: with the New Zealand has been appalling to the point

1027
00:50:05,813 --> 00:50:10,773
Speaker 2: of being lingering mental trauma. That's Chris, Yeah, that's you.

1028
00:50:10,813 --> 00:50:13,693
Speaker 2: Don't often hear people saying positive stuff about domestic flights

1029
00:50:13,973 --> 00:50:18,573
Speaker 2: in the United States. Paul, you're in New Zealand experience.

1030
00:50:19,173 --> 00:50:21,373
Speaker 6: Good money, things quite good.

1031
00:50:22,093 --> 00:50:22,693
Speaker 18: Yeah, I was.

1032
00:50:22,693 --> 00:50:24,813
Speaker 14: At the I was at the airport about a year

1033
00:50:24,853 --> 00:50:27,093
Speaker 14: and a half ago and I was putting my bag

1034
00:50:27,213 --> 00:50:29,693
Speaker 14: on and I look at this guy that's lifted my

1035
00:50:29,773 --> 00:50:33,292
Speaker 14: bag and I couldn't see his face, and I said, Tom,

1036
00:50:33,373 --> 00:50:36,293
Speaker 14: are you Greg? He goes yeah, and I said aren't

1037
00:50:36,333 --> 00:50:37,893
Speaker 14: you supposed to be running the show? And he goes

1038
00:50:38,413 --> 00:50:41,493
Speaker 14: all hands on Dick today And I said to him,

1039
00:50:41,613 --> 00:50:43,853
Speaker 14: Nick should be flying the plane.

1040
00:50:44,853 --> 00:50:47,652
Speaker 3: That is. That's a good CEO, a clever CEO to

1041
00:50:47,733 --> 00:50:50,253
Speaker 3: be seen on the ground. And what he was handling

1042
00:50:50,293 --> 00:50:50,933
Speaker 3: the bags was.

1043
00:50:50,893 --> 00:50:53,293
Speaker 14: He Yeah, he was putting the bags, taking them off

1044
00:50:53,333 --> 00:50:55,973
Speaker 14: the people's and putting them onto the conveyor belt.

1045
00:50:56,253 --> 00:50:59,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, because some people, some people you know, said that

1046
00:50:59,453 --> 00:51:01,933
Speaker 2: his lack of aviation experience was a problem when he

1047
00:51:01,973 --> 00:51:04,333
Speaker 2: hit the ground, and he had to learn very fast.

1048
00:51:04,613 --> 00:51:06,053
Speaker 2: The best way to learn is to do every part

1049
00:51:06,053 --> 00:51:08,813
Speaker 2: of the business, going kind of have a week in

1050
00:51:08,853 --> 00:51:11,853
Speaker 2: every part of the business. Are the b CEOs. Are

1051
00:51:11,893 --> 00:51:13,613
Speaker 2: the b CEOs the ones that come from the bottom

1052
00:51:13,613 --> 00:51:17,093
Speaker 2: of the business start, you know the cliche, start in

1053
00:51:17,093 --> 00:51:18,893
Speaker 2: the mailroom and work the way up to the top.

1054
00:51:19,013 --> 00:51:21,453
Speaker 3: Definitely must be Yeah, what do you reckon?

1055
00:51:22,333 --> 00:51:22,533
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1056
00:51:22,573 --> 00:51:24,933
Speaker 14: Yeah, no I think he Yeah, Well, without a doubt,

1057
00:51:24,973 --> 00:51:27,573
Speaker 14: you've appeared to do the work and get your hands dirty.

1058
00:51:27,733 --> 00:51:27,933
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1059
00:51:28,373 --> 00:51:30,493
Speaker 3: And what was the reaction? Was it just you that

1060
00:51:30,573 --> 00:51:33,653
Speaker 3: spotted grig or did a lot of other customers not

1061
00:51:33,693 --> 00:51:34,453
Speaker 3: it was him?

1062
00:51:35,013 --> 00:51:35,093
Speaker 6: No?

1063
00:51:35,293 --> 00:51:37,172
Speaker 14: Well, because you know, I just saw him for that

1064
00:51:37,693 --> 00:51:40,133
Speaker 14: fifteen seconds and put our bag and made a joke

1065
00:51:40,173 --> 00:51:42,973
Speaker 14: with him and walked off. We Also, I just flew

1066
00:51:42,973 --> 00:51:46,893
Speaker 14: back to Japan on the weekend, and it's just just

1067
00:51:46,933 --> 00:51:50,373
Speaker 14: a stunning flight with them as well. And I sat

1068
00:51:50,413 --> 00:51:52,013
Speaker 14: in the airport in Japan and looked out of that

1069
00:51:52,053 --> 00:51:55,093
Speaker 14: ere New Zealand plane and just well full of pride.

1070
00:51:55,213 --> 00:51:57,853
Speaker 3: Yes, so I like hearing that, Paul then went them

1071
00:51:57,853 --> 00:51:58,493
Speaker 3: and running.

1072
00:51:59,053 --> 00:52:02,813
Speaker 2: Everyone's we running everything down? But how about it just

1073
00:52:02,813 --> 00:52:05,013
Speaker 2: feel a little bit proud, but proud in your country?

1074
00:52:05,173 --> 00:52:07,293
Speaker 14: Yeah yeah, I love everything's perfect. You know we know

1075
00:52:07,373 --> 00:52:08,613
Speaker 14: that on.

1076
00:52:08,573 --> 00:52:10,813
Speaker 3: Your bill stuff. Thank you very much, all right, mate,

1077
00:52:10,853 --> 00:52:14,093
Speaker 3: have a good afternoon. Why fly Air New Zealand domestic

1078
00:52:14,133 --> 00:52:19,613
Speaker 3: this Texas is two because you own the airline as

1079
00:52:19,613 --> 00:52:22,373
Speaker 3: a textpayer. The reason jets they are so cheap is

1080
00:52:22,613 --> 00:52:25,333
Speaker 3: it is a lost leader. I fly every week and

1081
00:52:25,373 --> 00:52:28,053
Speaker 3: will not fly any other airline other than in New Zealand.

1082
00:52:28,093 --> 00:52:30,493
Speaker 3: On a trip back from Brisbane last week, the service

1083
00:52:31,013 --> 00:52:33,333
Speaker 3: was perfect, even had to cancel and change the flights.

1084
00:52:33,373 --> 00:52:36,213
Speaker 3: All done easy. Have flown New Air New Zealand for

1085
00:52:36,333 --> 00:52:37,973
Speaker 3: twenty seven years from heighty.

1086
00:52:37,773 --> 00:52:39,333
Speaker 2: There you go, heidy, I tell you what, there's a

1087
00:52:39,373 --> 00:52:43,013
Speaker 2: whole raft of texts coming through after the initial running

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Speaker 2: down the whole situation, there's a whole raft of texts

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00:52:45,093 --> 00:52:47,093
Speaker 2: coming through big upping the airline.

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Speaker 3: Yep, we're going to get to more of those very shortly.

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Speaker 3: Back keen to hear from you on eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 3: ten eighty do you rate New Air New Zealand and

1093
00:52:54,253 --> 00:52:56,613
Speaker 3: how do you think Greg Foran did As CEO. It's

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00:52:56,653 --> 00:52:57,573
Speaker 3: twenty one past two.

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Speaker 2: There are heaps of great opportunities out there for business leaders,

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00:53:04,373 --> 00:53:07,093
Speaker 2: but really only one should be paying attention to. You

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00:53:07,133 --> 00:53:09,732
Speaker 2: should be paying attention to that. It's Spreading Industrial Estate,

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00:53:09,813 --> 00:53:11,613
Speaker 2: located in the heart of Auckland's northwest.

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00:53:12,093 --> 00:53:16,413
Speaker 3: Yes, Spareding Industrial Estate is a thoroughly designed modern industrial

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00:53:16,693 --> 00:53:19,373
Speaker 3: development precinct with attractive streetscapes.

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00:53:19,453 --> 00:53:23,093
Speaker 2: It's strategically located with unmatched connectivity to the inner city

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00:53:23,133 --> 00:53:25,733
Speaker 2: and well established infrastructure already in place.

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00:53:25,853 --> 00:53:29,133
Speaker 3: Get this, Auckland's north and west is experiencing an extreme

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00:53:29,133 --> 00:53:33,293
Speaker 3: shortage of industrial land, so Spreading Industrial Estate really fills

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00:53:33,293 --> 00:53:33,733
Speaker 3: that gap.

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00:53:33,893 --> 00:53:36,693
Speaker 2: The area is one of Auckland's key growth nodes, with

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00:53:36,853 --> 00:53:41,573
Speaker 2: substantial residential and infrastructure development supporting this explosion of development,

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00:53:41,653 --> 00:53:44,652
Speaker 2: So it makes sense that such a well considered industrial

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00:53:44,773 --> 00:53:47,453
Speaker 2: estate would emerge in the heart of this precinct to

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00:53:47,493 --> 00:53:49,293
Speaker 2: deliver a major employment opportunity.

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00:53:49,493 --> 00:53:53,693
Speaker 3: Spading has development lots available right now from three thousand

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00:53:53,973 --> 00:53:56,653
Speaker 3: to fifty thousand square meters.

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Speaker 2: Be a part of the Northwest future in this world

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00:53:59,573 --> 00:54:00,413
Speaker 2: class location.

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Speaker 3: For more information, visit Spedding Road dot co dot NZ.

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Speaker 3: That's spe DOUBLEDNG that brought to you by Collier's License

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Speaker 3: Ari Double eight two thousand and eight excellent.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

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00:54:20,213 --> 00:54:22,133
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: We're talking in New Zealand. How do you rate the

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00:54:25,253 --> 00:54:27,653
Speaker 3: airline in twenty twenty five on the back of Greg

1122
00:54:27,693 --> 00:54:32,253
Speaker 3: Foruan's resignation he'll finish up in October. And supplementary question,

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00:54:32,373 --> 00:54:34,293
Speaker 3: how do you rate Greg Fouran's tenure.

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00:54:34,853 --> 00:54:36,893
Speaker 2: My husband and I live in Napier, Sister Sex out

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00:54:36,933 --> 00:54:38,573
Speaker 2: and travel a lot. It's hard to remember the last

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00:54:38,573 --> 00:54:40,573
Speaker 2: flight we took with in New Zealand when the flight

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00:54:40,693 --> 00:54:43,813
Speaker 2: wasn't delayed or canceled completely. When we travel overseas, we

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00:54:43,813 --> 00:54:46,013
Speaker 2: always go to Auckland the day before. It's too risky

1129
00:54:46,053 --> 00:54:48,813
Speaker 2: to go the day of the international travel. What annoys

1130
00:54:48,893 --> 00:54:50,613
Speaker 2: me the most is that if I want to change

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00:54:50,653 --> 00:54:53,213
Speaker 2: my flight, there is a change, a change fee and

1132
00:54:53,373 --> 00:54:55,652
Speaker 2: extra for the new flight. In New Zealand do it

1133
00:54:55,733 --> 00:54:58,133
Speaker 2: all the time and don't get to build them back.

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00:54:58,693 --> 00:55:01,173
Speaker 2: I would love to lovey in New Zealand. I really

1135
00:55:01,173 --> 00:55:03,573
Speaker 2: want to be proud of them, but they are too unreliable,

1136
00:55:03,813 --> 00:55:06,053
Speaker 2: and even though they claim to be the best, there

1137
00:55:06,053 --> 00:55:09,933
Speaker 2: are others out there that are better. Guitar Emirates, for example, Sadley,

1138
00:55:10,013 --> 00:55:12,213
Speaker 2: we only get in New Zealand in Apia, so we

1139
00:55:12,293 --> 00:55:14,333
Speaker 2: have to suck it up and pay the high fears

1140
00:55:14,413 --> 00:55:18,172
Speaker 2: and suffer the unreliable service. That's from Donner. I think

1141
00:55:18,213 --> 00:55:18,652
Speaker 2: if your.

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00:55:18,613 --> 00:55:22,893
Speaker 3: Text, yeah, Liz, now you are closely connected to Air

1143
00:55:22,893 --> 00:55:25,333
Speaker 3: New Zealand, is that right? Well?

1144
00:55:25,613 --> 00:55:28,053
Speaker 22: Not now, but I used to do about one hundred.

1145
00:55:28,173 --> 00:55:30,053
Speaker 22: In fact, I counted up my boarding.

1146
00:55:29,813 --> 00:55:30,533
Speaker 12: Passes one year.

1147
00:55:30,573 --> 00:55:33,772
Speaker 22: There were ninety one, and most of that was international travel.

1148
00:55:33,973 --> 00:55:34,853
Speaker 12: And they were very good.

1149
00:55:35,493 --> 00:55:37,093
Speaker 22: They were very very good to me, and I used

1150
00:55:37,133 --> 00:55:39,053
Speaker 22: to get upgrades and in fact I used to know

1151
00:55:39,453 --> 00:55:41,853
Speaker 22: most of the people on the twenties. I'm in christ

1152
00:55:41,853 --> 00:55:43,933
Speaker 22: to it on the twenty third or twenty sixth floor

1153
00:55:43,973 --> 00:55:46,933
Speaker 22: of where Air New Zealand was there. But I am

1154
00:55:46,973 --> 00:55:50,692
Speaker 22: still connected to stuff that have been close to Air

1155
00:55:50,733 --> 00:55:52,893
Speaker 22: New Zealand. And I think you guys have summed it

1156
00:55:52,973 --> 00:55:55,773
Speaker 22: up very well about Greg Boren and what he's had

1157
00:55:55,813 --> 00:55:58,373
Speaker 22: to put up with. It's been a major I've heard,

1158
00:55:58,413 --> 00:56:01,053
Speaker 22: you know, getting parts for the planes. They're having to

1159
00:56:01,093 --> 00:56:04,252
Speaker 22: be parts up. New Zealand is way down the list

1160
00:56:04,293 --> 00:56:05,733
Speaker 22: on getting parts for airplanes.

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00:56:05,773 --> 00:56:07,213
Speaker 6: All these other countries.

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00:56:06,813 --> 00:56:11,373
Speaker 22: Get seem to get after first. And what I've also

1163
00:56:11,493 --> 00:56:14,212
Speaker 22: been able to ascertain is that Greek Faud has been

1164
00:56:14,213 --> 00:56:16,772
Speaker 22: held back by the union some decisions that he wanted

1165
00:56:16,853 --> 00:56:19,893
Speaker 22: to make. You know, they haven't been a happy mixture there.

1166
00:56:20,013 --> 00:56:23,493
Speaker 22: So I don't know how true it is, but it

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00:56:23,533 --> 00:56:24,333
Speaker 22: was a good authority.

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00:56:24,373 --> 00:56:25,093
Speaker 6: But I've heard that.

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00:56:25,493 --> 00:56:27,893
Speaker 2: Oh well, thank you, Liz. Now you've done ninety one.

1170
00:56:28,053 --> 00:56:30,733
Speaker 2: Surely you've got to get another nine flights in there

1171
00:56:30,773 --> 00:56:31,853
Speaker 2: and get the century.

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00:56:33,133 --> 00:56:35,172
Speaker 22: Oh look, I don't I don't do it very much now.

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00:56:35,253 --> 00:56:36,013
Speaker 6: I did it for years.

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00:56:36,053 --> 00:56:39,373
Speaker 22: I was always overseas and you know, coming. But even

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00:56:39,413 --> 00:56:41,733
Speaker 22: the trips i've been in the New Zeand and recently

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00:56:42,053 --> 00:56:44,333
Speaker 22: I haven't had a problem with them. I cannot say

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00:56:44,373 --> 00:56:45,493
Speaker 22: that they've failed us.

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00:56:46,933 --> 00:56:50,173
Speaker 3: I mean it on the day, sorry, Liz. Depends on

1179
00:56:50,213 --> 00:56:50,493
Speaker 3: the day.

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00:56:51,653 --> 00:56:53,813
Speaker 22: It depends on the day, It depends on the time, depends

1181
00:56:53,853 --> 00:56:55,933
Speaker 22: on the weather, It depends on a lot of things.

1182
00:56:56,093 --> 00:56:58,733
Speaker 22: And I mean, nothing's perfect.

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Speaker 6: Is it.

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00:56:58,693 --> 00:57:00,533
Speaker 2: No, thank if you callers, I still think you need

1185
00:57:00,573 --> 00:57:02,573
Speaker 2: to get another nine flights ninety one.

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00:57:02,533 --> 00:57:04,733
Speaker 3: That is like a cricketer almost getting the century, isn't it?

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00:57:04,773 --> 00:57:07,373
Speaker 3: Just get that nine more flights Lis and you would

1188
00:57:07,373 --> 00:57:13,653
Speaker 3: have hit that hondy the nervous nineties, Richard, you had

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00:57:13,773 --> 00:57:16,893
Speaker 3: an experience line to Japan last year, go to bed.

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Speaker 7: Oh pretty badly with the new season. So first of all,

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00:57:22,133 --> 00:57:28,213
Speaker 7: the flight got delayed, and then I was asking the

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00:57:28,213 --> 00:57:31,133
Speaker 7: bank's checking people what do we do. They didn't have

1193
00:57:31,173 --> 00:57:34,613
Speaker 7: a clue, so I know thed not fairly well. So

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00:57:34,653 --> 00:57:37,333
Speaker 7: I went over to the ad seed the place there

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00:57:37,333 --> 00:57:40,133
Speaker 7: when you have to be delayed, I said, okay, like

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00:57:40,413 --> 00:57:43,453
Speaker 7: you doing some vouchers and if you like that for

1197
00:57:43,573 --> 00:57:47,253
Speaker 7: drinks and I don't hear it. No, yeah, we've had

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00:57:48,373 --> 00:57:52,733
Speaker 7: I also said to them that because of so in Japan,

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Speaker 7: chang stop at midnight. So because of the delay, I

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00:57:59,693 --> 00:58:05,333
Speaker 7: couldn't get the Shika sad track to kiot So. I

1201
00:58:05,373 --> 00:58:07,733
Speaker 7: was sitting then to stay in Tokyo for the night,

1202
00:58:08,373 --> 00:58:13,373
Speaker 7: which meant book a hotel in Tokyo, chancel hotels in Kyoto.

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00:58:13,773 --> 00:58:16,133
Speaker 7: They go through all that expense, and I asked her

1204
00:58:16,133 --> 00:58:19,453
Speaker 7: about was there any conversation involved in this? Do they

1205
00:58:19,493 --> 00:58:23,293
Speaker 7: help out? Basically it was like that, you know, yeah,

1206
00:58:23,573 --> 00:58:24,733
Speaker 7: well this is your book.

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00:58:25,053 --> 00:58:29,813
Speaker 3: For you, and that's where I think they'll fall off. Richard.

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00:58:29,853 --> 00:58:32,693
Speaker 3: You're quite right, and clearly they've had they've been in

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00:58:32,773 --> 00:58:36,493
Speaker 3: financial dire straits over the last five years. But you're

1210
00:58:36,573 --> 00:58:39,253
Speaker 3: quite right. When it is the airline's mistake and you

1211
00:58:39,293 --> 00:58:41,373
Speaker 3: are out of pocket, it is only right that they

1212
00:58:41,373 --> 00:58:42,853
Speaker 3: try and make it up as bits they can.

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00:58:44,693 --> 00:58:48,013
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I believe they should have. But they're pretty

1214
00:58:48,533 --> 00:58:52,213
Speaker 7: loved about it all basically now and are fly anywhere.

1215
00:58:52,733 --> 00:58:57,813
Speaker 7: I'll use an Asian airline slot, better service, the airline

1216
00:58:57,853 --> 00:59:01,373
Speaker 7: staff and a lot more friends here on. There nothing

1217
00:59:01,533 --> 00:59:03,213
Speaker 7: too much of trouble with them, where with their news

1218
00:59:03,493 --> 00:59:05,893
Speaker 7: they're just seemed to not not really care much and

1219
00:59:05,973 --> 00:59:06,733
Speaker 7: I want to be fair.

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00:59:06,973 --> 00:59:08,213
Speaker 2: Do you have a fly KFA Pacific?

1221
00:59:10,013 --> 00:59:10,653
Speaker 8: Oh I haven't.

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00:59:12,053 --> 00:59:14,933
Speaker 2: Thank you for your disappointing because i'men writing for Casa pacifically.

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Speaker 3: And I'm surprised by that because there's a boogie yearline.

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00:59:17,053 --> 00:59:20,053
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so it's a very classy flight, yeah yeah.

1225
00:59:20,173 --> 00:59:22,773
Speaker 3: So what are you writing about New Zealand?

1226
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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 2: God, patriotic my love of the country, Yeah, lovely, So

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00:59:27,653 --> 00:59:30,573
Speaker 2: should we Yeah, we'll put an end to this fantastic

1229
00:59:30,693 --> 00:59:32,373
Speaker 2: chat we've had and I think if we sum up

1230
00:59:32,413 --> 00:59:34,533
Speaker 2: the feelings that people have had, right, we want to

1231
00:59:34,573 --> 00:59:36,773
Speaker 2: love you in New Zealand. Of course, you know, like

1232
00:59:36,933 --> 00:59:39,413
Speaker 2: I'm collating the thoughts of thousands of texts. We want

1233
00:59:39,413 --> 00:59:41,613
Speaker 2: to love in New Zealand. We want to be proud

1234
00:59:41,653 --> 00:59:44,533
Speaker 2: of them, but we're currently frustrated. Things do seem to

1235
00:59:44,533 --> 00:59:46,853
Speaker 2: be getting a little bit better, but there are challenges,

1236
00:59:46,853 --> 00:59:50,933
Speaker 2: and overall, Foreign probably gets a pass mark. You know,

1237
00:59:50,973 --> 00:59:53,413
Speaker 2: he's been in the cockpit and some pretty turbulent times,

1238
00:59:53,933 --> 00:59:56,453
Speaker 2: made some decisions that have turned out to be poor,

1239
00:59:57,493 --> 01:00:00,693
Speaker 2: like the permanently retiring some planes that we could really

1240
01:00:00,693 --> 01:00:03,133
Speaker 2: do with right now. Yep, although there's been pushed back

1241
01:00:03,133 --> 01:00:05,533
Speaker 2: on that that those engines were too hard to keep up.

1242
01:00:06,253 --> 01:00:09,853
Speaker 2: But overall, you know, he had had a tough time

1243
01:00:09,853 --> 01:00:11,773
Speaker 2: in that cockpit. It was a bit of turbulence. You

1244
01:00:11,773 --> 01:00:13,533
Speaker 2: see what I've sort of tried to do. There's a

1245
01:00:13,533 --> 01:00:15,973
Speaker 2: lot of analogies. I've tried to bring in a sort

1246
01:00:15,973 --> 01:00:18,493
Speaker 2: of a flight theme in there. It didn't quite work,

1247
01:00:18,533 --> 01:00:19,653
Speaker 2: you know, you didn't even notice that.

1248
01:00:19,773 --> 01:00:22,093
Speaker 3: But beautifully surmised. I've got to say, well done and

1249
01:00:22,173 --> 01:00:25,253
Speaker 3: good discussion. So thank you to everybody who phoned and

1250
01:00:25,493 --> 01:00:28,373
Speaker 3: text on that one right coming up, Let's have a

1251
01:00:28,493 --> 01:00:29,933
Speaker 3: chat about road rage.

1252
01:00:30,253 --> 01:00:33,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's a pretty high profile road rage incident.

1253
01:00:33,053 --> 01:00:36,813
Speaker 2: You can watch the video on the Herald website right now.

1254
01:00:36,853 --> 01:00:38,853
Speaker 2: But I've got a theory. I've seen two road rage

1255
01:00:38,853 --> 01:00:42,173
Speaker 2: incidents in the last week and I believe people are

1256
01:00:42,173 --> 01:00:43,893
Speaker 2: getting angry on the roads. Am I wrong?

1257
01:00:43,933 --> 01:00:44,253
Speaker 3: Am I right?

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01:00:44,493 --> 01:00:46,373
Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty ten eighty or nine.

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01:00:46,333 --> 01:00:48,533
Speaker 3: Two nine two is the text number headlines with rayling

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01:00:48,933 --> 01:00:49,493
Speaker 3: coming up?

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Speaker 11: You talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

1262
01:00:55,853 --> 01:00:59,333
Speaker 11: no trouble with a blue bubble. The Government's extended its

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01:00:59,413 --> 01:01:04,533
Speaker 11: declarations of drought conditions to Northland, why Cuttle Horizons and

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01:01:04,613 --> 01:01:08,773
Speaker 11: Marlborough Tasman regions on top of Taranaki last week. It's

1265
01:01:08,813 --> 01:01:11,573
Speaker 11: providing a total of one hundred thousand dollars to rural

1266
01:01:11,613 --> 01:01:16,413
Speaker 11: support groups and affected regions. The Government's returning to traditional

1267
01:01:16,453 --> 01:01:20,253
Speaker 11: governance for Health and z and reinstating its board to

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01:01:20,333 --> 01:01:25,373
Speaker 11: replace Commissioner Lester Levy. Queensland and New South Wales authorities

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01:01:25,413 --> 01:01:29,893
Speaker 11: are being stretched thin a cyclone Alfred approaches East Australia.

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01:01:30,293 --> 01:01:33,133
Speaker 11: It's hours away from hitting with full force, but is

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01:01:33,173 --> 01:01:36,933
Speaker 11: already pummeling parts with heavy rain and wind, cutting power

1272
01:01:37,093 --> 01:01:42,253
Speaker 11: and prompting evacuation orders. Controls to stop oriental fruit flies

1273
01:01:42,293 --> 01:01:45,813
Speaker 11: in their tracks will continue on Auckland's north shore until

1274
01:01:45,853 --> 01:01:49,533
Speaker 11: April tenth to account for the pest's life cycle. A

1275
01:01:49,533 --> 01:01:52,933
Speaker 11: single mail was caught in Birkdale last month, but nonsense

1276
01:01:54,053 --> 01:01:57,893
Speaker 11: medium mutiny billionaire's battle to sack the board of New

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01:01:57,973 --> 01:02:01,493
Speaker 11: Zealand News Giant. You can read this and more from

1278
01:02:01,533 --> 01:02:04,933
Speaker 11: Media Insider at zaid Herald Premium. Now back to Matt

1279
01:02:04,973 --> 01:02:06,093
Speaker 11: Heath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, ray Leane, and we talk about

1281
01:02:08,893 --> 01:02:12,133
Speaker 3: road rage. This is on the back of an Orkland

1282
01:02:12,173 --> 01:02:14,373
Speaker 3: man who was nearly rammed off the road by an

1283
01:02:14,413 --> 01:02:18,133
Speaker 3: aggressive you drive in Auckland. The yout driver attempted to

1284
01:02:18,253 --> 01:02:21,093
Speaker 3: swerve into the man's car and later tried to open

1285
01:02:21,253 --> 01:02:21,973
Speaker 3: his door.

1286
01:02:22,293 --> 01:02:24,573
Speaker 2: How crazy is it that someone will risk that all

1287
01:02:24,893 --> 01:02:27,693
Speaker 2: and how much worse is your behavior in that situation

1288
01:02:27,773 --> 01:02:29,613
Speaker 2: than the thing that started the road rage? If you

1289
01:02:29,613 --> 01:02:31,653
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's like, so it's so

1290
01:02:31,773 --> 01:02:33,133
Speaker 2: bad to do what they were doing. But by the

1291
01:02:33,173 --> 01:02:35,413
Speaker 2: time you're trying to ram someone whatever in discretion, the

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01:02:35,413 --> 01:02:38,293
Speaker 2: person there before you are clearly a worse driver than their.

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01:02:38,213 --> 01:02:40,333
Speaker 3: Heck you, I mean that is the red mess. Surely

1294
01:02:40,333 --> 01:02:42,973
Speaker 3: there's no other explanation when you try and ram someone

1295
01:02:43,013 --> 01:02:46,333
Speaker 3: off the road and you're effectively that's attempted murder, Almost

1296
01:02:46,333 --> 01:02:49,533
Speaker 3: didn't it. You can kill someone very easy, but the road.

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Speaker 2: At that point in your hear to you thinking this

1298
01:02:51,773 --> 01:02:54,453
Speaker 2: is completely normal? What makes total sense that I'll be

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01:02:54,453 --> 01:02:56,693
Speaker 2: trying to ram someone like I'm in a Hollywood movie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a logical reaction to what just happens.

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01:02:59,013 --> 01:03:00,493
Speaker 2: How much of a muppet do you have to be

1302
01:03:00,613 --> 01:03:00,973
Speaker 2: to do that?

1303
01:03:01,293 --> 01:03:06,093
Speaker 3: Exactly? Yeah, it appears the offender in this case, the

1304
01:03:06,653 --> 01:03:10,013
Speaker 3: employe got involved and there is an investigation, so clearly

1305
01:03:10,053 --> 01:03:13,053
Speaker 3: that person hopefully will lose their job being an absolute idiot.

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01:03:12,813 --> 01:03:16,293
Speaker 2: The employer of Defender. Yeah, yeah, my driving is monitor

1307
01:03:16,373 --> 01:03:17,213
Speaker 2: in one of those cars.

1308
01:03:17,413 --> 01:03:18,653
Speaker 3: Yes, what a numbscull.

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01:03:18,733 --> 01:03:20,493
Speaker 2: We've just got this here. I mean, if you drive

1310
01:03:20,533 --> 01:03:22,413
Speaker 2: any of the ins in me cars, then you'll get

1311
01:03:22,413 --> 01:03:23,853
Speaker 2: an email if you go over the speed limit?

1312
01:03:23,893 --> 01:03:24,373
Speaker 3: Is that right?

1313
01:03:24,413 --> 01:03:24,853
Speaker 2: Instantly?

1314
01:03:25,613 --> 01:03:27,773
Speaker 3: That must only be up in Auckland because it doesn't

1315
01:03:27,773 --> 01:03:28,293
Speaker 3: have any chrisis.

1316
01:03:28,293 --> 01:03:31,853
Speaker 2: They doesn't ever down a cross. You up here? You

1317
01:03:31,853 --> 01:03:34,853
Speaker 2: go the speed limit, immediately get a telling off email?

1318
01:03:35,133 --> 01:03:37,333
Speaker 3: Is that one O five or one ten? What do

1319
01:03:37,413 --> 01:03:41,053
Speaker 3: you mean hundred? So you're on the open road? Yeah,

1320
01:03:41,133 --> 01:03:42,933
Speaker 3: do they get an email if you go on?

1321
01:03:43,813 --> 01:03:44,733
Speaker 2: I think it's one O five?

1322
01:03:45,133 --> 01:03:47,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, or fifty five can be a little bit more

1323
01:03:47,893 --> 01:03:48,493
Speaker 3: generous than that.

1324
01:03:48,613 --> 01:03:51,813
Speaker 2: I got to say, though, an email, it's not that

1325
01:03:51,893 --> 01:03:52,653
Speaker 2: bad a punishment.

1326
01:03:56,053 --> 01:03:57,733
Speaker 3: But the question we want to put to you, whiz

1327
01:03:57,853 --> 01:04:00,933
Speaker 3: and you you have a theory that things are still

1328
01:04:00,933 --> 01:04:03,293
Speaker 3: a bit tense out there met You've seen a few

1329
01:04:03,333 --> 01:04:04,173
Speaker 3: incidents of late.

1330
01:04:04,293 --> 01:04:07,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a sample of one me walking around.

1331
01:04:07,173 --> 01:04:10,813
Speaker 2: I've just seen two quite quite aggressive road rage incidents

1332
01:04:10,853 --> 01:04:13,413
Speaker 2: in the last week. And I was just wondering if

1333
01:04:13,453 --> 01:04:16,773
Speaker 2: the tensions, you know, what's happening with social media, what's

1334
01:04:16,813 --> 01:04:20,173
Speaker 2: happening with pressures from the economy. You know that there's

1335
01:04:20,213 --> 01:04:25,533
Speaker 2: a level of anxiety and I guess anger in the

1336
01:04:25,573 --> 01:04:27,773
Speaker 2: world now that may not have been there a few

1337
01:04:27,813 --> 01:04:31,453
Speaker 2: years ago, And I wonder if that's manifesting on our roads. Yeah,

1338
01:04:31,453 --> 01:04:34,133
Speaker 2: because I'm just seeing more road rage. But and you know,

1339
01:04:34,173 --> 01:04:35,813
Speaker 2: you see this on the on the TV, I mean

1340
01:04:35,893 --> 01:04:38,253
Speaker 2: on the zid herold and you go, oh, yeah, yeah, Well,

1341
01:04:38,253 --> 01:04:39,093
Speaker 2: that that's pretty crazy.

1342
01:04:39,173 --> 01:04:41,853
Speaker 3: Roadrage makes sense. They also call it mad March. That

1343
01:04:41,973 --> 01:04:43,693
Speaker 3: was a new phrase that I heard, but it kind

1344
01:04:43,693 --> 01:04:46,653
Speaker 3: of makes sense. Is that March all the UNI students

1345
01:04:46,693 --> 01:04:50,413
Speaker 3: go back to UNI. Everyone's back at work. The motorways

1346
01:04:50,413 --> 01:04:52,413
Speaker 3: at shock a block. But it's the same up and

1347
01:04:52,413 --> 01:04:54,653
Speaker 3: down the country. It seems that March is a month

1348
01:04:54,693 --> 01:04:57,053
Speaker 3: there people get a little bit fired up on the road.

1349
01:04:57,133 --> 01:04:59,933
Speaker 3: Really yeah, mad March? Okay, oh, eight one hundred and

1350
01:04:59,973 --> 01:05:00,973
Speaker 3: eighty ten eight years the.

1351
01:05:01,213 --> 01:05:03,053
Speaker 2: Absolute rubbish me, but it's great.

1352
01:05:03,213 --> 01:05:06,093
Speaker 3: Thanks for sharing. It's to the conversation, doesn't that nineteen nights,

1353
01:05:06,133 --> 01:05:08,013
Speaker 3: it's the text number. Let's gout of the phones though,

1354
01:05:08,653 --> 01:05:11,053
Speaker 3: Get Aaron, you've got a theory on road rage.

1355
01:05:11,733 --> 01:05:16,653
Speaker 16: Yeah, good mate. I think it's because you know, there's

1356
01:05:16,733 --> 01:05:19,773
Speaker 16: so many major roads closed during the day now, Like

1357
01:05:19,853 --> 01:05:23,653
Speaker 16: I've been working in Gisbon and we were coming home

1358
01:05:23,693 --> 01:05:26,613
Speaker 16: a couple of days earlier, but they had the main road,

1359
01:05:26,733 --> 01:05:30,093
Speaker 16: the Gorge between the Potaga and Gisbon closed from what

1360
01:05:30,373 --> 01:05:34,853
Speaker 16: like ten am to five, So then you're diverted down

1361
01:05:34,893 --> 01:05:37,453
Speaker 16: all these other roads and then everyone just assumes, for

1362
01:05:37,493 --> 01:05:39,933
Speaker 16: some reason now to speed them everywhere is eighty k

1363
01:05:40,213 --> 01:05:44,733
Speaker 16: on the highway, people just go slow, which irritates people. Yeah,

1364
01:05:44,773 --> 01:05:45,773
Speaker 16: that's amazing, and.

1365
01:05:45,733 --> 01:05:48,773
Speaker 23: Then it's just yeah, that's that's the main reason to.

1366
01:05:48,733 --> 01:05:50,933
Speaker 2: Be honest, Aaron. You kind of guy that someone's driving

1367
01:05:50,933 --> 01:05:52,333
Speaker 2: eighty k when they should be able one hundred that

1368
01:05:52,413 --> 01:05:54,293
Speaker 2: you get you get right up their ass and make

1369
01:05:54,333 --> 01:05:57,613
Speaker 2: a point of it, get into the tailgating allegedly.

1370
01:05:59,733 --> 01:06:03,213
Speaker 23: But I'm not gonna lie, I do toot, I have

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01:06:03,373 --> 01:06:05,653
Speaker 23: stopped like I don't. I'm not a road rage. I

1372
01:06:05,653 --> 01:06:08,693
Speaker 23: don't know. I don't get aggressive. Now I was quite well,

1373
01:06:08,773 --> 01:06:11,013
Speaker 23: not bad, but i'd like two and full of fingers.

1374
01:06:11,053 --> 01:06:14,093
Speaker 23: But now I feel like seeing all these videos online,

1375
01:06:14,133 --> 01:06:16,733
Speaker 23: it's like, you don't know who you're going to piss off,

1376
01:06:17,013 --> 01:06:20,413
Speaker 23: or yeah you it's someone you don't know what starts

1377
01:06:20,453 --> 01:06:23,053
Speaker 23: thinking in their head or what's going to happen to you.

1378
01:06:23,133 --> 01:06:25,173
Speaker 23: Because I was coming to work one morning over the

1379
01:06:25,213 --> 01:06:28,813
Speaker 23: Crimes at six thirty and this guy I passed him

1380
01:06:28,813 --> 01:06:31,213
Speaker 23: in the passing line perfectly fine, and then he got

1381
01:06:31,253 --> 01:06:33,373
Speaker 23: upset and put down his foot and cut me off

1382
01:06:33,733 --> 01:06:37,013
Speaker 23: and then slowed right down to about fifteen k's and

1383
01:06:37,053 --> 01:06:39,093
Speaker 23: he was like putting his arm out the window. I

1384
01:06:39,133 --> 01:06:42,933
Speaker 23: didn't do anything wrong in his mind because I passed him.

1385
01:06:43,493 --> 01:06:44,253
Speaker 23: He wasn't happy.

1386
01:06:44,493 --> 01:06:46,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree with you, Aaron. I think it's

1387
01:06:46,973 --> 01:06:49,493
Speaker 2: amazing the risks that people take on the road in

1388
01:06:49,573 --> 01:06:51,853
Speaker 2: terms of, you know, getting on the horn and getting

1389
01:06:51,853 --> 01:06:54,573
Speaker 2: abusive because you don't know what that person there's That

1390
01:06:54,613 --> 01:06:57,733
Speaker 2: person could have been up on the on the pea

1391
01:06:57,773 --> 01:07:00,653
Speaker 2: pipe for four days, yeah, on the myth n fetter Meine,

1392
01:07:00,733 --> 01:07:02,133
Speaker 2: you know, and then they'll come at you with a

1393
01:07:02,133 --> 01:07:05,613
Speaker 2: tyre iron and you know it's hugely risky. I had

1394
01:07:05,613 --> 01:07:07,813
Speaker 2: a friend in Los Angeles that he was a bit

1395
01:07:07,813 --> 01:07:09,893
Speaker 2: of an AGGRESSI driver honking at people and a guy

1396
01:07:09,933 --> 01:07:12,173
Speaker 2: got out with a glock and pointed it as.

1397
01:07:12,573 --> 01:07:14,853
Speaker 3: It's okay, yeah, that's the last time you'd honk at anybody.

1398
01:07:14,973 --> 01:07:18,053
Speaker 2: And you know we're not without guns in New Zealand. Yeah,

1399
01:07:18,133 --> 01:07:20,973
Speaker 2: so you gotta be careful before you go absolutely crazy

1400
01:07:20,973 --> 01:07:23,533
Speaker 2: and ramp the situation up to that kind of level.

1401
01:07:23,933 --> 01:07:27,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, Aaron, thank you very much. Speaking about honking, I

1402
01:07:27,253 --> 01:07:29,973
Speaker 3: do actually remember the last time I honked it. Someone

1403
01:07:30,013 --> 01:07:33,133
Speaker 3: wasn't too long ago, but I think it was. It

1404
01:07:33,173 --> 01:07:34,733
Speaker 3: wasn't quite a friendly honk, but I was on the

1405
01:07:34,773 --> 01:07:38,373
Speaker 3: motorway right and four lanes, and the guy to the

1406
01:07:38,453 --> 01:07:41,693
Speaker 3: right of me just slowly started drifting into my lane,

1407
01:07:41,933 --> 01:07:45,493
Speaker 3: so I just give the way and then oh, I

1408
01:07:45,493 --> 01:07:47,333
Speaker 3: could almost see him, you know, like sort of shake

1409
01:07:47,413 --> 01:07:49,893
Speaker 3: up in his seat and then swerve back into islaie.

1410
01:07:50,053 --> 01:07:51,613
Speaker 3: So that to me was appropriate.

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01:07:51,773 --> 01:07:54,253
Speaker 2: But that's what the horn is invented for, Tyler, that's

1412
01:07:54,253 --> 01:07:56,333
Speaker 2: what you need the horn. You prevented an accent with this.

1413
01:07:56,453 --> 01:07:59,213
Speaker 2: You reminded someone that something was going wrong. Say, for

1414
01:07:59,253 --> 01:08:02,413
Speaker 2: some reason, they're they're they're reversing and you're behind them

1415
01:08:02,413 --> 01:08:03,693
Speaker 2: and there's no way you can get out of the way.

1416
01:08:03,813 --> 01:08:07,493
Speaker 2: You or even in that case you go. But people

1417
01:08:07,533 --> 01:08:10,333
Speaker 2: that use it as than if you, that's not the

1418
01:08:10,333 --> 01:08:13,173
Speaker 2: correct usage of a horn. Okay, No, never honk the

1419
01:08:13,173 --> 01:08:17,492
Speaker 2: horn and anger. Only honk the horn to inform people

1420
01:08:17,693 --> 01:08:19,333
Speaker 2: of a potential danger.

1421
01:08:19,173 --> 01:08:21,053
Speaker 3: Save a life, or to give a we thank you.

1422
01:08:21,293 --> 01:08:24,013
Speaker 3: But even that way, you know, hey, you're virgin into

1423
01:08:24,013 --> 01:08:26,093
Speaker 3: a lane here, you might have an accident that could

1424
01:08:26,093 --> 01:08:27,852
Speaker 3: have turned on me. That person could have just been

1425
01:08:27,893 --> 01:08:30,013
Speaker 3: having a bad day and said, what the hell is

1426
01:08:30,013 --> 01:08:30,412
Speaker 3: that person?

1427
01:08:30,973 --> 01:08:34,293
Speaker 2: If you turn around and someone's giving you a real

1428
01:08:34,452 --> 01:08:38,213
Speaker 2: loud horn, blast right yeah, and because you haven't pulled

1429
01:08:38,213 --> 01:08:40,133
Speaker 2: out it in a section or whatever, and you turn

1430
01:08:40,133 --> 01:08:42,692
Speaker 2: around and it's a European cast, but particularly an Audi,

1431
01:08:42,853 --> 01:08:45,293
Speaker 2: you're gonna understand there's no control than an Audi over

1432
01:08:45,372 --> 01:08:49,812
Speaker 2: the They're the hardest horn to control. You're like, you're

1433
01:08:49,812 --> 01:08:52,213
Speaker 2: trying to go for a book and you'll get and

1434
01:08:52,213 --> 01:08:53,333
Speaker 2: you're like, no, I was just trying to give you

1435
01:08:53,333 --> 01:08:54,093
Speaker 2: a friendly pull out.

1436
01:08:54,372 --> 01:08:59,133
Speaker 3: Audi drivers. Can you confirm eight ten eighty TIX number

1437
01:08:59,173 --> 01:09:00,732
Speaker 3: is nine two, nine to two. We'll give a few

1438
01:09:00,772 --> 01:09:04,253
Speaker 3: of those very shortly. It's eighteen to three.

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01:09:04,492 --> 01:09:07,692
Speaker 1: You're a new home of Afternoon Talk Matt and Taylor

1440
01:09:07,772 --> 01:09:11,532
Speaker 1: Afternoon with the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into

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01:09:11,692 --> 01:09:12,532
Speaker 1: something special.

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01:09:12,612 --> 01:09:15,692
Speaker 19: Call eight News Talk said.

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01:09:15,492 --> 01:09:17,892
Speaker 3: Be good afternoon. It's a quarter to three. We're talking

1444
01:09:17,933 --> 01:09:19,772
Speaker 3: about road rage on the back of a story and

1445
01:09:19,812 --> 01:09:23,372
Speaker 3: they hear it about quite a serious road rage incident.

1446
01:09:23,452 --> 01:09:25,572
Speaker 3: But we're getting a lot of text to the question.

1447
01:09:25,973 --> 01:09:27,492
Speaker 3: Are things a bit tense out there?

1448
01:09:27,772 --> 01:09:31,293
Speaker 2: Yeah? People getting ramped up with all the financial pressure

1449
01:09:31,293 --> 01:09:34,333
Speaker 2: out there. I think there's something to what Aaron was

1450
01:09:34,333 --> 01:09:37,293
Speaker 2: saying before about the mount of roadworks around Yeah there.

1451
01:09:37,333 --> 01:09:41,572
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, in Auckland, City Auckland Transport is

1452
01:09:41,652 --> 01:09:45,452
Speaker 2: basically trying to squeeze you out of your car to

1453
01:09:45,452 --> 01:09:48,532
Speaker 2: torture you into not driving your car. That's their principal goal,

1454
01:09:48,812 --> 01:09:50,333
Speaker 2: is to make it so horrible to be in your

1455
01:09:50,372 --> 01:09:52,692
Speaker 2: car that you're forced to go on their terrible public transport.

1456
01:09:52,692 --> 01:09:55,012
Speaker 3: I almost missed my turn off this morning coming down

1457
01:09:55,053 --> 01:09:57,173
Speaker 3: Nelson Street and there was a whole bunch of cones

1458
01:09:57,213 --> 01:09:59,772
Speaker 3: that have been there forever ever since I've been here,

1459
01:09:59,933 --> 01:10:01,492
Speaker 3: and they've taken the cones away, And I thought, am

1460
01:10:01,492 --> 01:10:04,693
Speaker 3: I in the right place here where all the road works.

1461
01:10:05,452 --> 01:10:08,932
Speaker 2: Try driving down Papanui Road a few times day. You'll

1462
01:10:08,933 --> 01:10:12,333
Speaker 2: be ready to hurt yourself. They might as well just

1463
01:10:12,372 --> 01:10:14,572
Speaker 2: get rid of the lights, because everyone just ignores the

1464
01:10:14,572 --> 01:10:17,572
Speaker 2: red lights. I'm a district nurse and cruise that area.

1465
01:10:18,293 --> 01:10:20,092
Speaker 2: I'm in despair by the time I finish.

1466
01:10:20,333 --> 01:10:24,732
Speaker 3: Papanui is notoriously bad. It's in christ Church and yeah,

1467
01:10:24,772 --> 01:10:27,812
Speaker 3: there's a truckload of lights and it's Chocolate Block and

1468
01:10:27,853 --> 01:10:30,253
Speaker 3: the congestion is out of control and it goes past

1469
01:10:30,253 --> 01:10:32,412
Speaker 3: the god awful more. Yeah, it's just bad. It's bad.

1470
01:10:32,933 --> 01:10:34,372
Speaker 2: So this is further to my thing that you should

1471
01:10:34,412 --> 01:10:37,892
Speaker 2: only use the horn as a warning. This text says

1472
01:10:37,973 --> 01:10:40,012
Speaker 2: on nine to nine two, what happens when they don't

1473
01:10:40,013 --> 01:10:43,732
Speaker 2: correct the driving after several friendly toots? Or you can

1474
01:10:43,772 --> 01:10:47,612
Speaker 2: tell their texting, or they're just oblivious. Yeah, I mean

1475
01:10:47,652 --> 01:10:52,173
Speaker 2: you can increase the you know, the the volume and

1476
01:10:52,213 --> 01:10:55,973
Speaker 2: the duration of your toot. Yeah, if they're you know,

1477
01:10:55,973 --> 01:10:58,093
Speaker 2: if they're reversing towards you and you see them coming

1478
01:10:58,133 --> 01:11:00,013
Speaker 2: down and they can't see you, go. But if they

1479
01:11:00,013 --> 01:11:03,372
Speaker 2: don't talk around, then that's a good time to go, obviously.

1480
01:11:03,572 --> 01:11:05,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there is a lot of lane creep

1481
01:11:05,692 --> 01:11:08,052
Speaker 3: on the motorway. Let's be honest. I mean, how many

1482
01:11:08,053 --> 01:11:10,492
Speaker 3: honks do you get out of a standard? Yeah, stand

1483
01:11:10,492 --> 01:11:11,652
Speaker 3: of a horn in the car? I'm going to run

1484
01:11:11,652 --> 01:11:12,732
Speaker 3: out of hanks And.

1485
01:11:12,652 --> 01:11:15,213
Speaker 2: Look, it is a horrific crime to sit at a

1486
01:11:15,293 --> 01:11:18,173
Speaker 2: light on your phone and mess when it goes green. Yeah,

1487
01:11:18,933 --> 01:11:20,892
Speaker 2: I mean everyone's waiting, everyone's stressed.

1488
01:11:21,013 --> 01:11:22,093
Speaker 3: You should be called out for that.

1489
01:11:22,253 --> 01:11:25,293
Speaker 2: And then and then you you don't pull out, Yeah,

1490
01:11:25,372 --> 01:11:28,492
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, keep your eyes on there, I mean, yeah, yeah,

1491
01:11:28,492 --> 01:11:29,133
Speaker 2: what's wrong with you?

1492
01:11:29,213 --> 01:11:32,053
Speaker 3: Get it together? Oh wait, a show one hundred and

1493
01:11:32,053 --> 01:11:34,052
Speaker 3: eighteen eighties and number to call Peter.

1494
01:11:34,532 --> 01:11:35,732
Speaker 2: What happened to you the other day.

1495
01:11:36,973 --> 01:11:40,853
Speaker 4: I was going home and at the Upper Harbor Bridge

1496
01:11:40,532 --> 01:11:43,292
Speaker 4: and the Green Iife Bridge and they're doing a roadworks

1497
01:11:43,333 --> 01:11:45,772
Speaker 4: and three lanes went down to one, but they let

1498
01:11:45,812 --> 01:11:48,053
Speaker 4: you know, about five hundred meters out, you know, those

1499
01:11:48,093 --> 01:11:51,053
Speaker 4: blinking lights on those trucks and the arm sort of

1500
01:11:51,053 --> 01:11:55,253
Speaker 4: saying that two's going at a one. So nearly when

1501
01:11:55,293 --> 01:11:57,492
Speaker 4: I was in the left hand lane sucking it up.

1502
01:11:57,532 --> 01:11:59,572
Speaker 4: It's going to take them five minutes long or whatever,

1503
01:12:00,253 --> 01:12:02,612
Speaker 4: and there's people running up at the end the other

1504
01:12:03,372 --> 01:12:05,893
Speaker 4: what lane that's still open, and then just crawling and

1505
01:12:06,053 --> 01:12:07,812
Speaker 4: just as it disappears.

1506
01:12:07,293 --> 01:12:09,012
Speaker 2: Ah yeah, yeah.

1507
01:12:09,053 --> 01:12:11,013
Speaker 4: So I just went in the other lane and the

1508
01:12:11,013 --> 01:12:13,452
Speaker 4: same speed as a guy by me, and this guy

1509
01:12:13,532 --> 01:12:16,133
Speaker 4: comes running up to me, you know, swimming up in

1510
01:12:16,213 --> 01:12:19,013
Speaker 4: a four wheeler and gets to me, see I'm doing

1511
01:12:19,013 --> 01:12:20,893
Speaker 4: the same speed as everyone else and gives them a

1512
01:12:21,013 --> 01:12:24,013
Speaker 4: flashing Give me the bee, mahong can give me the

1513
01:12:24,732 --> 01:12:27,572
Speaker 4: if you with the fingers, enjoy it.

1514
01:12:29,652 --> 01:12:30,213
Speaker 3: It's good.

1515
01:12:30,452 --> 01:12:33,492
Speaker 2: That is exactly what he doesn't want. You know, He's

1516
01:12:33,532 --> 01:12:37,492
Speaker 2: still all that stuff, but it's tackling you. Yeah, yeah,

1517
01:12:37,492 --> 01:12:38,213
Speaker 2: good on you, Peter.

1518
01:12:38,293 --> 01:12:41,652
Speaker 3: Thanks for you, coul as a good story. Just we

1519
01:12:42,293 --> 01:12:44,692
Speaker 3: story here by text. Guys, I get peed off with

1520
01:12:44,853 --> 01:12:47,333
Speaker 3: drivers who do not know how to merge, drive too

1521
01:12:47,333 --> 01:12:49,372
Speaker 3: slow on the motorway, stay in the fast lane when

1522
01:12:49,372 --> 01:12:51,532
Speaker 3: the motorways are quiet, when they should move back to

1523
01:12:51,572 --> 01:12:54,772
Speaker 3: the left, don't know what you do when emergency vehicles come.

1524
01:12:54,853 --> 01:12:59,133
Speaker 3: I think it is after the back of COVID. Too

1525
01:12:59,213 --> 01:13:02,852
Speaker 3: many drivers who don't know what they're doing. We need

1526
01:13:02,893 --> 01:13:06,812
Speaker 3: to have checkpoints at every motorway entry one weekend to

1527
01:13:06,893 --> 01:13:09,492
Speaker 3: get the bags off the road.

1528
01:13:10,013 --> 01:13:13,053
Speaker 2: It's so interesting, the whole merging thing. And because I'm

1529
01:13:13,093 --> 01:13:15,492
Speaker 2: teaching my son how to drive, and you know, when

1530
01:13:15,492 --> 01:13:17,532
Speaker 2: you're teaching them how to merge onto the motorway, you know,

1531
01:13:17,612 --> 01:13:19,973
Speaker 2: merge like a zip yep. That's quite That's such a

1532
01:13:20,013 --> 01:13:23,213
Speaker 2: gray area in driving because you have to negotiate. So

1533
01:13:23,293 --> 01:13:25,253
Speaker 2: every other part of driving pretty much I'm teaching them

1534
01:13:25,333 --> 01:13:27,333
Speaker 2: is a sort of black and white. That but it's

1535
01:13:27,372 --> 01:13:29,612
Speaker 2: like this is a negotiation. You indicate you want to

1536
01:13:29,652 --> 01:13:32,492
Speaker 2: go there. You if they're not giving them big enough gap,

1537
01:13:32,532 --> 01:13:34,333
Speaker 2: you have to start sort of making it quite clear

1538
01:13:34,372 --> 01:13:36,492
Speaker 2: that you're coming across no matter what you know. And

1539
01:13:36,572 --> 01:13:38,932
Speaker 2: some people drive along completely oblivious and aren't looking out

1540
01:13:38,973 --> 01:13:42,412
Speaker 2: for people to merge in, which are terrible human beings

1541
01:13:42,933 --> 01:13:45,772
Speaker 2: and deserve to be tased. But it's just a really

1542
01:13:46,692 --> 01:13:50,692
Speaker 2: really interesting sort of communication via vehicle that you do.

1543
01:13:50,853 --> 01:13:53,133
Speaker 3: But that's something I've had to learn that when you

1544
01:13:53,213 --> 01:13:55,852
Speaker 3: come on to the motorway, as I understand it, the

1545
01:13:55,893 --> 01:13:58,732
Speaker 3: crect rule is you gun it right to the top

1546
01:13:58,772 --> 01:14:00,812
Speaker 3: and then you merge right to the top of the

1547
01:14:00,812 --> 01:14:01,333
Speaker 3: merging lane.

1548
01:14:01,372 --> 01:14:01,612
Speaker 2: Right.

1549
01:14:01,652 --> 01:14:04,452
Speaker 3: So if you're coming onto the motorway and you gap

1550
01:14:04,492 --> 01:14:06,333
Speaker 3: it right too as far as you can go, and

1551
01:14:06,372 --> 01:14:08,253
Speaker 3: that's the point where you merge, I believe that's the

1552
01:14:08,492 --> 01:14:12,372
Speaker 3: correct response. But I actually like you're what you're teaching

1553
01:14:12,412 --> 01:14:15,052
Speaker 3: your boy is that you were negotiating, So you don't

1554
01:14:15,053 --> 01:14:16,893
Speaker 3: need to get it right to the top. If you

1555
01:14:16,933 --> 01:14:19,973
Speaker 3: see it, we gap there or you're indicating and someone.

1556
01:14:20,492 --> 01:14:22,412
Speaker 2: But even at the top you're in negotiation because if

1557
01:14:22,412 --> 01:14:24,412
Speaker 2: you're teaching a kid to drive, by the time they're

1558
01:14:24,412 --> 01:14:26,093
Speaker 2: at the end and if they can't get in, then

1559
01:14:26,093 --> 01:14:28,053
Speaker 2: they're run out of runway to get on.

1560
01:14:28,333 --> 01:14:30,092
Speaker 3: Yeah, so things get angry.

1561
01:14:30,133 --> 01:14:32,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thanks, get think get angry. But it's a

1562
01:14:32,692 --> 01:14:36,972
Speaker 2: it's a very complicated, interesting part of driving. James, Sorry,

1563
01:14:37,133 --> 01:14:40,492
Speaker 2: press them wrong. Goddamn button, didn't I James, you had

1564
01:14:40,612 --> 01:14:42,572
Speaker 2: a bit of an incident in christ Church.

1565
01:14:43,692 --> 01:14:47,173
Speaker 24: Yeah, I did, as I said the producer, not directly,

1566
01:14:47,253 --> 01:14:51,253
Speaker 24: probably quite thankfully. See six years ago and now, driving

1567
01:14:51,293 --> 01:14:54,692
Speaker 24: into christ Church on the motorway two lanes, choker chocolate,

1568
01:14:54,692 --> 01:14:57,612
Speaker 24: bumper to bumper, I knew my wife was about four

1569
01:14:57,692 --> 01:15:01,492
Speaker 24: or five k's behind me. I got a phone call

1570
01:15:01,492 --> 01:15:02,852
Speaker 24: from it and she says, if you just had a

1571
01:15:02,893 --> 01:15:05,852
Speaker 24: car pass you? I said no. She says, oh, car

1572
01:15:05,933 --> 01:15:08,612
Speaker 24: was throwing down the grass boots on the left, probably

1573
01:15:08,652 --> 01:15:11,972
Speaker 24: doing twice a speed of everyone else. And I hadn't

1574
01:15:12,013 --> 01:15:13,572
Speaker 24: seen it. And I got to the stage on main

1575
01:15:13,612 --> 01:15:16,173
Speaker 24: North Road where the bus lanes are, and that same

1576
01:15:16,213 --> 01:15:18,972
Speaker 24: car came flying down on the left hand side, past

1577
01:15:19,053 --> 01:15:21,852
Speaker 24: everybody and up there to the front. So I got

1578
01:15:21,893 --> 01:15:24,772
Speaker 24: on the line to the police. Start whatever it is,

1579
01:15:24,853 --> 01:15:27,692
Speaker 24: triple number, tell him the police about it, and he says,

1580
01:15:27,732 --> 01:15:30,972
Speaker 24: we've had a few phone calls about that. I gave

1581
01:15:31,053 --> 01:15:33,572
Speaker 24: him as much info. I carried on and I got

1582
01:15:33,612 --> 01:15:36,213
Speaker 24: just to the mobile station and here's this car parked

1583
01:15:36,253 --> 01:15:39,333
Speaker 24: up outside the front. So me being me, I thought right,

1584
01:15:39,692 --> 01:15:42,293
Speaker 24: so pack up in front, got out with my phone.

1585
01:15:42,372 --> 01:15:44,452
Speaker 24: The guy was leaning into the back of the car,

1586
01:15:44,853 --> 01:15:46,732
Speaker 24: and I took a photo of him and the number

1587
01:15:46,772 --> 01:15:51,013
Speaker 24: plate in the car. Back in my car carried on.

1588
01:15:52,812 --> 01:15:54,492
Speaker 24: A few k's down the road. There was a police

1589
01:15:54,532 --> 01:15:58,013
Speaker 24: car parked on the side of the road, so I thought, bagaret,

1590
01:15:58,013 --> 01:15:59,852
Speaker 24: I thought, I'll stop and have a talk to the cop,

1591
01:16:00,412 --> 01:16:03,093
Speaker 24: which I did. He says, yet, we're looking for that car.

1592
01:16:03,133 --> 01:16:05,372
Speaker 24: And I told him who I was, and he says, okay,

1593
01:16:05,692 --> 01:16:08,093
Speaker 24: if you're here, i'll get a statement off you. I

1594
01:16:08,133 --> 01:16:09,852
Speaker 24: did the statement, I set in the back of his

1595
01:16:10,013 --> 01:16:13,333
Speaker 24: police car, showed him the photos of the car. While

1596
01:16:13,333 --> 01:16:15,412
Speaker 24: we were doing that, one of his colleagues got on

1597
01:16:15,452 --> 01:16:19,133
Speaker 24: the radio and says, we've got him. The guy's absolutely bananas.

1598
01:16:19,173 --> 01:16:23,293
Speaker 24: He's gone nuts and he's real peeved off. So long

1599
01:16:23,333 --> 01:16:27,012
Speaker 24: story short, as they got him. PROP said thanks very much,

1600
01:16:27,053 --> 01:16:28,452
Speaker 24: and then he turned around and said to me, he

1601
01:16:28,492 --> 01:16:30,452
Speaker 24: says that one was a good one to get. The

1602
01:16:30,492 --> 01:16:32,412
Speaker 24: guy was a recently released murderer.

1603
01:16:32,532 --> 01:16:35,612
Speaker 3: Oh Wowapers, that's lucky, very lucky.

1604
01:16:35,732 --> 01:16:38,492
Speaker 24: How long ago was it, James will be six seven

1605
01:16:38,532 --> 01:16:38,892
Speaker 24: years ago?

1606
01:16:39,013 --> 01:16:44,572
Speaker 2: Now wow, that's my action. That is Yeah, what a

1607
01:16:44,572 --> 01:16:47,173
Speaker 2: great story. Thanks for sharing that, James, Thank you very much.

1608
01:16:47,372 --> 01:16:50,732
Speaker 2: Got James got a murder off the roads. Saved lives James.

1609
01:16:50,812 --> 01:16:54,132
Speaker 3: Yeah, World done, James. Nine two is the text number.

1610
01:16:54,452 --> 01:16:56,532
Speaker 3: We better play some messages, but we'll come back with

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01:16:56,572 --> 01:16:58,732
Speaker 3: some more phone calls very shortly. Oh, one hundred and

1612
01:16:58,732 --> 01:17:00,732
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It is

1613
01:17:00,772 --> 01:17:01,492
Speaker 3: seven to three.

1614
01:17:02,893 --> 01:17:05,333
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1615
01:17:05,333 --> 01:17:08,692
Speaker 1: along the way Matt and Tayler Afternoons with a though

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Speaker 2: Have it all you talk said.

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Speaker 15: Be.

1619
01:17:15,253 --> 01:17:18,293
Speaker 3: Good afternoon. We're talking about road rage and plenty of

1620
01:17:18,372 --> 01:17:19,572
Speaker 3: ticks coming through on this one.

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01:17:19,812 --> 01:17:21,973
Speaker 2: Yeah. The trouble with heaps of Kiwi drivers is that

1622
01:17:22,013 --> 01:17:24,173
Speaker 2: they drive up the ramp to the end and then

1623
01:17:24,173 --> 01:17:26,452
Speaker 2: put the indicator on. This is what Tyler does. I

1624
01:17:26,732 --> 01:17:29,572
Speaker 2: never let those muppets in. I have my indicator on,

1625
01:17:29,732 --> 01:17:32,532
Speaker 2: and as soon as I near the motorway, people let

1626
01:17:32,572 --> 01:17:34,053
Speaker 2: me in cheers in sang on.

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01:17:34,253 --> 01:17:37,333
Speaker 3: I said, I'm pretty sure that's the official rule in

1628
01:17:37,372 --> 01:17:40,012
Speaker 3: the road code, but you should go on. I don't.

1629
01:17:40,133 --> 01:17:42,213
Speaker 3: I actually think it's rude behavior. And I see it

1630
01:17:42,253 --> 01:17:45,173
Speaker 3: and it eaves me off the motorway. Yeah, and I

1631
01:17:45,213 --> 01:17:47,852
Speaker 3: see people gunning it straight to the top of that. No,

1632
01:17:48,133 --> 01:17:50,572
Speaker 3: you just moves nicely and ask to be let in

1633
01:17:50,732 --> 01:17:51,093
Speaker 3: as you can.

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01:17:51,173 --> 01:17:52,772
Speaker 2: I think no, I think as soon as you get

1635
01:17:52,812 --> 01:17:56,012
Speaker 2: to the area which is straight motorway, you start right. Yeah,

1636
01:17:56,053 --> 01:17:56,852
Speaker 2: but that's not very.

1637
01:17:56,812 --> 01:17:58,932
Speaker 3: Long, so you get the broken white line. You can't

1638
01:17:59,293 --> 01:18:00,132
Speaker 3: you're not to be merging.

1639
01:18:00,173 --> 01:18:02,692
Speaker 2: You're not crossing that one. You're crossing, you're not crossing

1640
01:18:02,732 --> 01:18:04,012
Speaker 2: it until the broken white line.

1641
01:18:04,652 --> 01:18:04,892
Speaker 18: Yeah.

1642
01:18:04,933 --> 01:18:06,492
Speaker 2: You know you can't movege there because you're going up

1643
01:18:06,532 --> 01:18:07,612
Speaker 2: onto a non drive zone.

1644
01:18:07,652 --> 01:18:09,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, so soon you come down there.

1645
01:18:09,532 --> 01:18:12,452
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, think Okay, all right, I might have

1646
01:18:13,532 --> 01:18:16,812
Speaker 2: I might have unfairly tard you with that. They actually

1647
01:18:16,812 --> 01:18:20,012
Speaker 2: need ads on TV to educate dumb dumbs on everything

1648
01:18:20,053 --> 01:18:23,012
Speaker 2: from not speeding up in a passing lane to even

1649
01:18:23,093 --> 01:18:25,852
Speaker 2: checking you haven't taken up to parking spaces before you

1650
01:18:25,933 --> 01:18:28,772
Speaker 2: walk away from the car, even how to indicate through

1651
01:18:28,933 --> 01:18:33,092
Speaker 2: a roundabout. Many clowns indicate right then left, we're going

1652
01:18:33,133 --> 01:18:35,412
Speaker 2: straight through. You go, Greg, thank you. Hey, we're going

1653
01:18:35,452 --> 01:18:38,253
Speaker 2: to keep this topic coming. Road rad one hundred and

1654
01:18:38,253 --> 01:18:45,212
Speaker 2: eighty three A.

1655
01:18:42,572 --> 01:18:45,932
Speaker 3: And eight nine. I ever think about how I merge

1656
01:18:45,933 --> 01:18:48,293
Speaker 3: because I'm confused now, so I ever think about that.

1657
01:18:48,412 --> 01:18:50,372
Speaker 3: But New Sport and weather coming.

1658
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Speaker 2: Us sunny Texan calls coming through, but join the conversation.

1659
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01:19:09,333 --> 01:19:13,093
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, I hope you having a great Friday after noon.

1664
01:19:13,253 --> 01:19:15,812
Speaker 3: Just a reminder New Zealander of the Week coming up,

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01:19:15,853 --> 01:19:18,253
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1666
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1667
01:19:20,772 --> 01:19:23,093
Speaker 3: and first to three votes take it out. But we

1668
01:19:23,173 --> 01:19:26,812
Speaker 3: have been chatting about road rage on the back of

1669
01:19:27,053 --> 01:19:29,732
Speaker 3: a story in The Herald where an incident of road

1670
01:19:29,812 --> 01:19:34,492
Speaker 3: rage where a driver was almost rammed off the road

1671
01:19:35,213 --> 01:19:37,652
Speaker 3: and started to get a little bit herey, a little

1672
01:19:37,652 --> 01:19:38,212
Speaker 3: bit dramatic.

1673
01:19:38,333 --> 01:19:41,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, watch the video, see what you think. It's crazy

1674
01:19:41,293 --> 01:19:43,012
Speaker 2: those kind of incidents when you get to that point,

1675
01:19:43,213 --> 01:19:45,093
Speaker 2: I can't even get my head around someone getting to

1676
01:19:45,093 --> 01:19:48,293
Speaker 2: the point where they attempting to ram another car. At

1677
01:19:48,293 --> 01:19:49,972
Speaker 2: that point, there's nothing to jump up in your head

1678
01:19:49,973 --> 01:19:54,652
Speaker 2: and say, maybe maybe I have lost my freaking mind.

1679
01:19:55,293 --> 01:19:56,053
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1680
01:19:56,133 --> 01:19:58,253
Speaker 2: Someone here says the amount of peak consumption in New

1681
01:19:58,333 --> 01:20:01,812
Speaker 2: Zealand is probably the problem here. Yeah, another texts is, guys,

1682
01:20:01,812 --> 01:20:04,093
Speaker 2: the peak consumption two peak consumption texts in a row

1683
01:20:04,652 --> 01:20:07,372
Speaker 2: rate is increasing significally. Probably has something to do with it.

1684
01:20:07,452 --> 01:20:08,253
Speaker 2: That's from Hugh.

1685
01:20:08,532 --> 01:20:08,732
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1686
01:20:09,133 --> 01:20:09,333
Speaker 24: Point.

1687
01:20:09,372 --> 01:20:10,652
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. If you've been up for three

1688
01:20:10,692 --> 01:20:13,372
Speaker 2: days smoking methan fetamine, you're probably not going to drive

1689
01:20:13,412 --> 01:20:14,452
Speaker 2: the friendly way, are you?

1690
01:20:14,452 --> 01:20:16,333
Speaker 3: No? And if someone honks it yet, it's not going

1691
01:20:16,372 --> 01:20:18,293
Speaker 3: to go well for either party? Is that you think?

1692
01:20:18,612 --> 01:20:21,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is interesting as well. So yeah, eight

1693
01:20:21,933 --> 01:20:25,732
Speaker 2: one hundred eighty ten eighty. Do you think that road

1694
01:20:25,812 --> 01:20:29,333
Speaker 2: rage is getting worse? With the financial struggles people are

1695
01:20:29,372 --> 01:20:33,933
Speaker 2: facing in New Zealand, with the insane punitive roadworks that

1696
01:20:33,973 --> 01:20:38,213
Speaker 2: are being done across the nation, with the with the

1697
01:20:38,412 --> 01:20:42,293
Speaker 2: just general levels of worry and angst that people are

1698
01:20:42,333 --> 01:20:46,333
Speaker 2: getting from jumping down their internet rabbit holes. I feel

1699
01:20:46,333 --> 01:20:49,532
Speaker 2: like tensions are raising and they explode out in road

1700
01:20:49,612 --> 01:20:50,293
Speaker 2: rage incidents.

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01:20:50,372 --> 01:20:53,412
Speaker 3: Humidity doesn't help if it's a humor day. Yeah, as

1702
01:20:53,452 --> 01:20:54,652
Speaker 3: I start getting pretty angry.

1703
01:20:54,973 --> 01:20:56,972
Speaker 2: Merging on a motorway says this text are worse best

1704
01:20:57,013 --> 01:20:59,372
Speaker 2: when the person entering the motorway matches the speed of

1705
01:20:59,572 --> 01:21:02,532
Speaker 2: existing motorway traffics so as not to cause cars to

1706
01:21:02,572 --> 01:21:05,812
Speaker 2: slow down, which can cause accidents as they break or

1707
01:21:05,973 --> 01:21:10,532
Speaker 2: change lanes quickly. Steve exactly. That's what part of merging

1708
01:21:10,812 --> 01:21:13,732
Speaker 2: like a zip is you get into a speed that

1709
01:21:13,812 --> 01:21:17,372
Speaker 2: you can just seamlessly move where ideally no one really

1710
01:21:17,372 --> 01:21:18,852
Speaker 2: has to change much in their.

1711
01:21:18,772 --> 01:21:20,212
Speaker 3: Life as fast as possible.

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01:21:20,532 --> 01:21:23,093
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, obviously you want to You want to get

1713
01:21:23,133 --> 01:21:25,652
Speaker 2: in there as quickly as you can, I believe. Yeah.

1714
01:21:25,692 --> 01:21:27,812
Speaker 3: Well, that's why I ask the question because I feel

1715
01:21:27,853 --> 01:21:31,213
Speaker 3: that if it's crawling the traffic and you only going

1716
01:21:31,293 --> 01:21:34,413
Speaker 3: five k's an hour and then someone joins the motorway

1717
01:21:35,133 --> 01:21:39,333
Speaker 3: and they scream to the front, in my mind, I'm thinking,

1718
01:21:39,452 --> 01:21:41,012
Speaker 3: you just want to get a hit out of everybody.

1719
01:21:41,293 --> 01:21:43,572
Speaker 3: Go to the back of the queue. We've been here

1720
01:21:43,652 --> 01:21:46,852
Speaker 3: for thirty minutes crawling, and you want to jump ahead

1721
01:21:46,853 --> 01:21:47,652
Speaker 3: of everybody else.

1722
01:21:47,933 --> 01:21:50,732
Speaker 2: Are you the kind of person when someone's you know,

1723
01:21:50,772 --> 01:21:53,133
Speaker 2: when there's a merge and they go to the end,

1724
01:21:53,652 --> 01:21:56,692
Speaker 2: like say there's an exist you know, say that there's

1725
01:21:56,692 --> 01:21:59,612
Speaker 2: a there's a right turn right yep, and there's a

1726
01:21:59,652 --> 01:22:02,732
Speaker 2: straight through and then you and there's a huge queue

1727
01:22:02,732 --> 01:22:05,013
Speaker 2: of traffic and you have that person that whips right

1728
01:22:05,053 --> 01:22:07,213
Speaker 2: there and then starts indicating to get into that lane

1729
01:22:07,213 --> 01:22:08,652
Speaker 2: with you. Are you the kind of person and go,

1730
01:22:08,732 --> 01:22:10,692
Speaker 2: this person's from out of town. They probably didn't know

1731
01:22:10,732 --> 01:22:12,372
Speaker 2: they had to be on this side, and that the

1732
01:22:12,412 --> 01:22:13,973
Speaker 2: last minute they've seen it and they're trying to get in,

1733
01:22:14,093 --> 01:22:16,572
Speaker 2: Or you're the kind of person goes that person's trying

1734
01:22:16,572 --> 01:22:19,492
Speaker 2: to jump the queue and they've come right to the front.

1735
01:22:20,013 --> 01:22:23,253
Speaker 3: I'm definitely in colum b and I have been known

1736
01:22:23,372 --> 01:22:25,013
Speaker 3: in the past, haven't done at some time, but just

1737
01:22:25,053 --> 01:22:26,732
Speaker 3: to jump right in the middle, you know, to block

1738
01:22:26,772 --> 01:22:27,333
Speaker 3: both lanes.

1739
01:22:27,492 --> 01:22:32,012
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many texts saying this, and I don't

1740
01:22:32,013 --> 01:22:33,612
Speaker 2: know what the truth of it is, but I reckon

1741
01:22:33,612 --> 01:22:36,133
Speaker 2: there's fifteen text saying something similar to this. You need

1742
01:22:36,173 --> 01:22:40,173
Speaker 2: to set aside another hour to talk about Ford Ranger drivers. Cheers, Matt.

1743
01:22:40,612 --> 01:22:42,933
Speaker 2: People seem to be saying that Ford Ranger drivers are

1744
01:22:42,933 --> 01:22:44,452
Speaker 2: the worst drivers. I just think that there's a lot

1745
01:22:44,452 --> 01:22:46,772
Speaker 2: of Ford Rangers out there, so a certain percentage of

1746
01:22:46,772 --> 01:22:47,492
Speaker 2: a bead drivers.

1747
01:22:47,572 --> 01:22:50,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can definitely raise that as a topic next week.

1748
01:22:50,253 --> 01:22:52,132
Speaker 3: Are Ford Ranger drivers mess of a holes?

1749
01:22:52,572 --> 01:22:54,172
Speaker 2: Clive? You want to talk about merging?

1750
01:22:55,692 --> 01:22:57,213
Speaker 18: Yes, idea, guys.

1751
01:22:57,772 --> 01:23:01,092
Speaker 25: I'm just chuck laying at your conversation because I'm driving

1752
01:23:01,133 --> 01:23:02,412
Speaker 25: a Ford Ranger right now.

1753
01:23:02,772 --> 01:23:04,013
Speaker 3: Okay, well talk to us.

1754
01:23:04,053 --> 01:23:06,492
Speaker 2: So you used to have a Ford Ranger, Clive, and

1755
01:23:06,532 --> 01:23:07,532
Speaker 2: I drive the Friendly Way.

1756
01:23:10,253 --> 01:23:15,532
Speaker 25: Well, you know, changing lanes actually causes me road range.

1757
01:23:15,973 --> 01:23:20,452
Speaker 25: Every day of the week. I travel on the freeways constantly,

1758
01:23:21,213 --> 01:23:26,532
Speaker 25: and people do not know how to change lanes, and

1759
01:23:27,412 --> 01:23:30,133
Speaker 25: from the sounds of things, you two guys don't either.

1760
01:23:31,492 --> 01:23:32,652
Speaker 2: We'll explain it to us, Clive.

1761
01:23:33,893 --> 01:23:37,253
Speaker 25: Well, the road rules, the road code says if you're

1762
01:23:37,333 --> 01:23:42,372
Speaker 25: changing lanes, the onus is on you to do it safely.

1763
01:23:43,053 --> 01:23:47,972
Speaker 25: An indicator is not an automatic right of way as

1764
01:23:48,093 --> 01:23:51,532
Speaker 25: most people seem to think. They put their indicator on,

1765
01:23:52,253 --> 01:23:56,532
Speaker 25: will stop in that particular lane and wait until it's

1766
01:23:56,652 --> 01:24:01,013
Speaker 25: clear and then move across. So that affects hundreds of

1767
01:24:01,053 --> 01:24:05,612
Speaker 25: people behind that person, and that's what gives me road range.

1768
01:24:06,253 --> 01:24:09,253
Speaker 25: Times I want to ram a car out of the

1769
01:24:09,372 --> 01:24:14,973
Speaker 25: road because they are so selfish on the road that

1770
01:24:15,293 --> 01:24:18,253
Speaker 25: they think they own it and they don't care about

1771
01:24:18,372 --> 01:24:19,372
Speaker 25: anybody out.

1772
01:24:19,612 --> 01:24:22,052
Speaker 2: Sounds like you've got a bit of rage in the system, Clive,

1773
01:24:22,452 --> 01:24:23,013
Speaker 2: but it is.

1774
01:24:22,973 --> 01:24:25,293
Speaker 25: Also you would be on the freeway.

1775
01:24:26,253 --> 01:24:29,892
Speaker 2: Well, you would though, agree though that as much as

1776
01:24:29,933 --> 01:24:32,652
Speaker 2: the indicator isn't a guarantee that you get to move across.

1777
01:24:32,812 --> 01:24:35,732
Speaker 2: When someone is indicating to merge, it is your job,

1778
01:24:36,053 --> 01:24:39,173
Speaker 2: if you are the car in that position, to make

1779
01:24:39,213 --> 01:24:41,452
Speaker 2: space for them to come through. That's how merging like

1780
01:24:41,492 --> 01:24:42,213
Speaker 2: a zip works.

1781
01:24:43,333 --> 01:24:47,933
Speaker 25: No, that's against the road rules. The person changing the lane.

1782
01:24:48,532 --> 01:24:52,412
Speaker 25: Person changing the lane must make sure it's safe to

1783
01:24:52,492 --> 01:24:54,052
Speaker 25: do cloth.

1784
01:24:54,372 --> 01:24:55,253
Speaker 3: But I'm saying.

1785
01:24:56,933 --> 01:24:59,293
Speaker 2: No, one hundred percent, Clive. But what I'm saying is,

1786
01:24:59,492 --> 01:25:02,492
Speaker 2: if someone's indicating get into your lane on a motorway,

1787
01:25:03,133 --> 01:25:06,852
Speaker 2: it's your moral responsibility as a driver to make space

1788
01:25:06,893 --> 01:25:09,533
Speaker 2: for them to get in. Round the system doesn't work.

1789
01:25:10,572 --> 01:25:13,572
Speaker 25: True, Yeah, that is very much true. That keeps the

1790
01:25:13,692 --> 01:25:17,213
Speaker 25: traffic flowing. Yeah, but for people that don't know how

1791
01:25:17,253 --> 01:25:20,692
Speaker 25: to change lanes, that believe it's an automatic right.

1792
01:25:20,612 --> 01:25:25,532
Speaker 2: Of way, Yeah, yeah, so you.

1793
01:25:25,772 --> 01:25:28,532
Speaker 25: Are expected to let them in whether you want to

1794
01:25:28,772 --> 01:25:29,013
Speaker 25: or not.

1795
01:25:29,293 --> 01:25:32,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, there enough clothes, somewhat fear.

1796
01:25:32,333 --> 01:25:35,092
Speaker 2: He's just proved that the rumors that Ford Ranger drivers

1797
01:25:35,133 --> 01:25:35,452
Speaker 2: are anger.

1798
01:25:35,692 --> 01:25:39,173
Speaker 3: Yeah. But attention there for Clove.

1799
01:25:40,173 --> 01:25:40,732
Speaker 2: What a good man.

1800
01:25:40,772 --> 01:25:44,253
Speaker 3: Thank you for you mate. This six of says guys,

1801
01:25:44,333 --> 01:25:48,652
Speaker 3: I can do between twelve hundred and sixteen hundred k's

1802
01:25:48,692 --> 01:25:51,772
Speaker 3: a week Auckland to Katya. Been doing it for forty years.

1803
01:25:51,812 --> 01:25:55,212
Speaker 3: Idiots are everywhere. But again the Ford Ranger drivers.

1804
01:25:55,532 --> 01:25:58,213
Speaker 2: Look, I actually resent there because I had a Ford

1805
01:25:58,293 --> 01:26:00,173
Speaker 2: Ranger for a very long time. Yeah, and I was

1806
01:26:00,173 --> 01:26:02,253
Speaker 2: the voice range for Ford Ranger for a very long

1807
01:26:02,293 --> 01:26:02,812
Speaker 2: time as well.

1808
01:26:02,893 --> 01:26:05,892
Speaker 3: Yeah. And so sturdy vehicles, you know, they do well

1809
01:26:05,933 --> 01:26:07,852
Speaker 3: off road. But if it's got a tray, stay away.

1810
01:26:13,093 --> 01:26:14,572
Speaker 3: What do you got now You've got to forward escape.

1811
01:26:14,572 --> 01:26:17,732
Speaker 3: That's some far more gentile boys.

1812
01:26:17,772 --> 01:26:20,532
Speaker 2: As a truck driver, the arrogance of traffic management is

1813
01:26:20,612 --> 01:26:24,053
Speaker 2: hard work to handle. Also, demos and swift drivers are

1814
01:26:24,053 --> 01:26:26,293
Speaker 2: the worst driving, inteed getting worse.

1815
01:26:26,372 --> 01:26:27,412
Speaker 3: I yad agree with that.

1816
01:26:27,812 --> 01:26:31,812
Speaker 2: Demios, well, mostly demeos have been stolen and been driven

1817
01:26:31,933 --> 01:26:33,293
Speaker 2: right through the front of deeries, aren't they.

1818
01:26:33,372 --> 01:26:35,052
Speaker 3: Oh maybe that's that's to blame.

1819
01:26:35,093 --> 01:26:38,133
Speaker 2: You can't blame the demo for the ram raids. The

1820
01:26:38,173 --> 01:26:39,852
Speaker 2: demo is a victim in the ram raid.

1821
01:26:41,372 --> 01:26:45,892
Speaker 3: Eight eighty is the number. Call is road rage worse

1822
01:26:45,973 --> 01:26:48,412
Speaker 3: out there on the roads? I love to hear from you.

1823
01:26:48,492 --> 01:26:50,932
Speaker 3: Nine to ninety two is the text number.

1824
01:26:51,013 --> 01:26:54,652
Speaker 2: This is a conspiracy theory from Jody Ford Ranger minus

1825
01:26:54,652 --> 01:26:59,172
Speaker 2: the ah is Ford Anger the driver is a redhead,

1826
01:26:59,532 --> 01:27:03,532
Speaker 2: then they have anger. Anger. This is this is good.

1827
01:27:03,572 --> 01:27:07,812
Speaker 3: We've cracked crack right, that's deep. Right, We're going to

1828
01:27:07,893 --> 01:27:10,133
Speaker 3: dig deeper. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighties and

1829
01:27:10,213 --> 01:27:12,093
Speaker 3: number two cool it is put us through.

1830
01:27:13,772 --> 01:27:16,732
Speaker 2: Yes, they are a chance, absolutely champions trophy go the

1831
01:27:16,732 --> 01:27:20,652
Speaker 2: black Caps into another final Scenday night. We are like

1832
01:27:21,013 --> 01:27:24,652
Speaker 2: the Asterix and Obelix. You know that that Gaulish village

1833
01:27:24,652 --> 01:27:28,173
Speaker 2: that just produces superstars. There's some kind of magic potion

1834
01:27:28,293 --> 01:27:30,572
Speaker 2: that just cracks amazing sports people in New Zealand. And

1835
01:27:30,853 --> 01:27:33,652
Speaker 2: for the black Caps to once again be looking to

1836
01:27:33,732 --> 01:27:35,932
Speaker 2: break the hearts of the Indians just makes you feel

1837
01:27:36,013 --> 01:27:36,333
Speaker 2: so good.

1838
01:27:36,452 --> 01:27:37,372
Speaker 3: Cheez, We're good, aren't we?

1839
01:27:38,093 --> 01:27:38,652
Speaker 2: I love us?

1840
01:27:39,053 --> 01:27:41,053
Speaker 3: Not on maybe not on the roads though, according to

1841
01:27:41,093 --> 01:27:42,212
Speaker 3: the texts coming through.

1842
01:27:42,452 --> 01:27:45,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, stuck in eastern traffic going north of Wellington a

1843
01:27:45,452 --> 01:27:47,772
Speaker 2: few years back, a group of cars with patch munger

1844
01:27:47,812 --> 01:27:49,972
Speaker 2: mold members thought it didn't apply to them, so they

1845
01:27:50,013 --> 01:27:53,293
Speaker 2: made their own lane on the grass and weaving around cars.

1846
01:27:53,973 --> 01:27:57,532
Speaker 2: Yeah that happens a bit yep yous agree. Ranger drivers

1847
01:27:57,572 --> 01:27:59,772
Speaker 2: think that Ranger drivers think they own the roads. They

1848
01:27:59,853 --> 01:28:05,013
Speaker 2: drove way too fast. Ute drivers always drove too fast, boy, boy,

1849
01:28:05,093 --> 01:28:08,333
Speaker 2: witness a punch up on the esplanade, p TONI this week.

1850
01:28:08,412 --> 01:28:10,932
Speaker 2: All right, See, if you're in a car and then

1851
01:28:10,973 --> 01:28:13,892
Speaker 2: you end up outside of your car punching someone, then

1852
01:28:14,053 --> 01:28:16,492
Speaker 2: you just take a sick and go. I might be

1853
01:28:17,893 --> 01:28:19,253
Speaker 2: a pathetic human being.

1854
01:28:19,412 --> 01:28:21,852
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think rule one is don't get out of

1855
01:28:21,853 --> 01:28:24,532
Speaker 3: your car if you're get into better road rage, sustain

1856
01:28:24,612 --> 01:28:25,333
Speaker 3: your blooming car.

1857
01:28:25,893 --> 01:28:27,372
Speaker 2: John, your thoughts on road rage.

1858
01:28:28,853 --> 01:28:31,892
Speaker 15: Oh, there's a love of show, by the way, fellas.

1859
01:28:31,973 --> 01:28:32,173
Speaker 2: Thanks.

1860
01:28:32,612 --> 01:28:35,612
Speaker 15: Yeah, Look, there's no doubt getting bad. I think that's

1861
01:28:35,692 --> 01:28:39,692
Speaker 15: partially traffic getting worse. And I haven't got a tendency

1862
01:28:39,692 --> 01:28:42,852
Speaker 15: to blame too much. Plea. No point in getting angry

1863
01:28:42,853 --> 01:28:45,013
Speaker 15: with the mongrel Bob and guys like that. If there's

1864
01:28:45,053 --> 01:28:47,293
Speaker 15: stupid enough to drive, you know, when you see the

1865
01:28:47,333 --> 01:28:49,732
Speaker 15: idiots coming and they're going to cut you off, just

1866
01:28:49,812 --> 01:28:51,892
Speaker 15: let them go. Don't get angry, get out of there.

1867
01:28:52,093 --> 01:28:52,293
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1868
01:28:53,333 --> 01:28:56,572
Speaker 15: But the think there's it's particularly when people talk about

1869
01:28:56,692 --> 01:28:59,532
Speaker 15: changing lanes and Virgin likes it. But all that is

1870
01:29:00,053 --> 01:29:03,852
Speaker 15: common sense, common curtesy. It's not hard, just the true

1871
01:29:04,133 --> 01:29:07,892
Speaker 15: important essential rules of life. It'll get you through life.

1872
01:29:07,933 --> 01:29:08,293
Speaker 16: Comments.

1873
01:29:09,772 --> 01:29:14,132
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, very wise. Absolutely that yeah road.

1874
01:29:16,772 --> 01:29:22,772
Speaker 2: That uh, Steven, the reverse merge you want to talk about, right,

1875
01:29:22,893 --> 01:29:23,612
Speaker 2: that's going to be good.

1876
01:29:25,293 --> 01:29:27,972
Speaker 26: An Auckland version of this, which is the bus stop

1877
01:29:28,173 --> 01:29:30,012
Speaker 26: reverse merge, right.

1878
01:29:30,173 --> 01:29:32,973
Speaker 3: Sorry, not the but lane.

1879
01:29:33,333 --> 01:29:36,413
Speaker 26: I don't know how well you know bell Moral Areas Minion.

1880
01:29:36,213 --> 01:29:37,572
Speaker 2: Road very well.

1881
01:29:38,372 --> 01:29:41,372
Speaker 26: So I used to regularly drive along the Minion Road right,

1882
01:29:41,412 --> 01:29:43,492
Speaker 26: And when you come to the intersection of Bellmorral Road

1883
01:29:43,492 --> 01:29:47,412
Speaker 26: Green Lane Road there and there would be one hundred

1884
01:29:47,492 --> 01:29:50,852
Speaker 26: cars and the queue waiting to get across Green Lane

1885
01:29:50,933 --> 01:29:54,492
Speaker 26: Road Road bell Morral Road, and there's a bus lane

1886
01:29:54,612 --> 01:29:58,253
Speaker 26: that runs along there from four o'clock, but it seems

1887
01:29:58,372 --> 01:30:00,532
Speaker 26: nobody wants to drive in the bus lane regardless of

1888
01:30:00,572 --> 01:30:05,452
Speaker 26: what time it is. There would be this big lane

1889
01:30:05,732 --> 01:30:08,892
Speaker 26: that's completely empty, and I would drive all the way

1890
01:30:08,933 --> 01:30:11,852
Speaker 26: up the lane past one hundred cars getting out. I'm

1891
01:30:11,853 --> 01:30:13,452
Speaker 26: not going to push in front of anybody. I'm not

1892
01:30:13,452 --> 01:30:15,213
Speaker 26: going to push in front of anybody, but I know

1893
01:30:15,253 --> 01:30:17,052
Speaker 26: that if I get to the other side of that

1894
01:30:17,053 --> 01:30:19,932
Speaker 26: that intersection, I'm going to be ahead of about three

1895
01:30:20,013 --> 01:30:23,972
Speaker 26: lanes three changes of the traffic lights, right, and I'm

1896
01:30:24,013 --> 01:30:25,213
Speaker 26: never going to have to put them in front of

1897
01:30:25,253 --> 01:30:27,532
Speaker 26: anybody because I also know that the guy that's sitting

1898
01:30:27,572 --> 01:30:30,013
Speaker 26: in the front, he's going to wait till he puts

1899
01:30:30,053 --> 01:30:32,333
Speaker 26: his car in gear and thinks about it and then

1900
01:30:32,412 --> 01:30:35,173
Speaker 26: drives off, you know. And I'm off bomb.

1901
01:30:34,893 --> 01:30:35,532
Speaker 8: Straight by that.

1902
01:30:36,333 --> 01:30:39,053
Speaker 26: I know it's all over Auckland. Nobody will drive in

1903
01:30:39,093 --> 01:30:39,692
Speaker 26: the bus lane.

1904
01:30:39,772 --> 01:30:42,612
Speaker 2: I've noticed this, Yeah, And if you're in, if you

1905
01:30:42,612 --> 01:30:44,973
Speaker 2: live in the area, you've seen the times you're like,

1906
01:30:45,053 --> 01:30:46,852
Speaker 2: this is just a this is like a heck that

1907
01:30:46,973 --> 01:30:49,133
Speaker 2: knows feb it's a freebee. It's only the bus lane.

1908
01:30:49,173 --> 01:30:51,132
Speaker 2: When it's the bus lane, you shouldn't have seen anything. Steven,

1909
01:30:51,213 --> 01:30:55,053
Speaker 2: that was your lane. Thanks for you, Steve, very good.

1910
01:30:55,133 --> 01:30:57,053
Speaker 2: I had the situation where I was rushing my kids

1911
01:30:57,093 --> 01:30:59,293
Speaker 2: to cricket and I thought, there's no way I can

1912
01:30:59,333 --> 01:31:00,612
Speaker 2: get there. And if I get in the bus lane,

1913
01:31:00,652 --> 01:31:02,532
Speaker 2: they're going to be waiting late for the game, right,

1914
01:31:02,732 --> 01:31:04,732
Speaker 2: And I'm umpire, so I've got to be there, right.

1915
01:31:05,093 --> 01:31:06,772
Speaker 2: So I've got a car full of kids and they're whites,

1916
01:31:06,812 --> 01:31:07,973
Speaker 2: and I get the guy to get there.

1917
01:31:08,013 --> 01:31:08,852
Speaker 3: That's an emergency.

1918
01:31:08,893 --> 01:31:11,652
Speaker 2: And I saw this camera set up to ping people

1919
01:31:11,692 --> 01:31:14,133
Speaker 2: in the in the bus lane, so I thought, well,

1920
01:31:14,173 --> 01:31:15,412
Speaker 2: I'm going to get a take it anyway, So I

1921
01:31:15,412 --> 01:31:17,293
Speaker 2: pulled up beside the guy and I said, and we

1922
01:31:17,372 --> 01:31:20,013
Speaker 2: all posed for a picture out the window. Guy gave

1923
01:31:20,053 --> 01:31:20,892
Speaker 2: me the sourist lock.

1924
01:31:21,173 --> 01:31:24,492
Speaker 3: I'll like, enjoy your job, mate, Yeah, does happen to you.

1925
01:31:24,612 --> 01:31:26,173
Speaker 2: I'm going to pay two hundred fifty dollars for this.

1926
01:31:26,372 --> 01:31:29,213
Speaker 2: Just just film us and enjoy it. And because you know,

1927
01:31:29,213 --> 01:31:31,133
Speaker 2: I wanted the picture, and I got a picture. But

1928
01:31:31,492 --> 01:31:33,173
Speaker 2: the guy with the camera, no joy in life.

1929
01:31:33,173 --> 01:31:34,293
Speaker 3: What a miserable sauce.

1930
01:31:34,492 --> 01:31:34,932
Speaker 2: No joy.

1931
01:31:35,532 --> 01:31:38,532
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1932
01:31:38,572 --> 01:31:41,133
Speaker 3: Nine two niney two is the text number. It is

1933
01:31:41,253 --> 01:31:45,253
Speaker 3: twenty two past three.

1934
01:31:46,412 --> 01:31:50,053
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1935
01:31:50,133 --> 01:31:52,812
Speaker 1: ten eighty on news Talk said the good afternoon.

1936
01:31:52,812 --> 01:31:55,173
Speaker 3: We're talking about road rage, but it's kind of gone

1937
01:31:55,293 --> 01:31:59,492
Speaker 3: into merging rules and also Ford Ranger abuse at one

1938
01:31:59,572 --> 01:32:01,692
Speaker 3: hundred eighty's the number.

1939
01:32:01,853 --> 01:32:04,852
Speaker 2: Well cool this Texas says that toy to Aqua drivers

1940
01:32:04,853 --> 01:32:07,333
Speaker 2: are the worst. So there's been a bit of shade

1941
01:32:08,692 --> 01:32:11,612
Speaker 2: at Suzuki Swift as well. Yeah, well so much shade

1942
01:32:11,652 --> 01:32:14,572
Speaker 2: at Ford Rangers, which I take.

1943
01:32:14,652 --> 01:32:17,852
Speaker 3: No highluks abuse. Highluks are getting off Scott Free.

1944
01:32:17,893 --> 01:32:22,452
Speaker 2: Does this ring a bell Ford Ranger, beautiful voice, George,

1945
01:32:22,492 --> 01:32:23,572
Speaker 2: you want to talk about merging?

1946
01:32:25,572 --> 01:32:28,812
Speaker 13: Yes, yeah, I can sort of understand the frustration of

1947
01:32:28,853 --> 01:32:33,293
Speaker 13: a couple of previous callers about merging. What I'll think

1948
01:32:33,333 --> 01:32:35,612
Speaker 13: it out is that merging is more of a as

1949
01:32:35,692 --> 01:32:38,852
Speaker 13: much a speed control exercise as it is indicating. Yes,

1950
01:32:41,133 --> 01:32:44,373
Speaker 13: just going back, I remember watching a current affairs documentary

1951
01:32:44,412 --> 01:32:47,852
Speaker 13: probably fifteen years ago, or actually might have been one

1952
01:32:47,893 --> 01:32:49,532
Speaker 13: of the things like one close up at the end

1953
01:32:49,532 --> 01:32:52,492
Speaker 13: of the news or something. But they had several commentators on,

1954
01:32:52,532 --> 01:32:58,493
Speaker 13: and one of them was the manager of Mitsubishi Sabaru,

1955
01:32:58,572 --> 01:33:01,652
Speaker 13: and he said that the biggest problem on one of

1956
01:33:01,692 --> 01:33:04,173
Speaker 13: the biggest problems that he sees as people who don't

1957
01:33:04,173 --> 01:33:05,932
Speaker 13: know how to merge, probably, but he did added, it's

1958
01:33:05,933 --> 01:33:10,053
Speaker 13: only a small percentage of drivers, and that's sort of

1959
01:33:10,093 --> 01:33:13,973
Speaker 13: what I observe. You know, most drivers merge correctly, but

1960
01:33:14,013 --> 01:33:17,333
Speaker 13: they probably do it without it just intuitively, and it

1961
01:33:17,412 --> 01:33:20,933
Speaker 13: is a speed control exercise. The truck driver that was

1962
01:33:20,973 --> 01:33:24,372
Speaker 13: frustrated and saying that he was conferg a losing his temper,

1963
01:33:24,372 --> 01:33:27,053
Speaker 13: and he said he was saying how some drivers will

1964
01:33:27,053 --> 01:33:28,973
Speaker 13: sort of stop and put their indicator on and then

1965
01:33:29,013 --> 01:33:31,372
Speaker 13: and then that messes up the whole flow of the traffic.

1966
01:33:33,372 --> 01:33:36,692
Speaker 13: He put He was saying that the onus is more

1967
01:33:36,732 --> 01:33:40,013
Speaker 13: on the person changing lanes, and then he kind of

1968
01:33:40,053 --> 01:33:44,012
Speaker 13: retracted that a little bit. It's a bit of both.

1969
01:33:44,053 --> 01:33:47,173
Speaker 13: But you can actually merge almost in some situations without

1970
01:33:47,213 --> 01:33:50,372
Speaker 13: using indicator. That's the road code also states that you

1971
01:33:50,452 --> 01:33:52,893
Speaker 13: must travel at the same speed as the traffic that

1972
01:33:52,933 --> 01:33:54,892
Speaker 13: you're merging with or trying to adapt to that.

1973
01:33:55,173 --> 01:33:58,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, I means to me, George, it's it's far easier

1974
01:33:58,492 --> 01:34:01,532
Speaker 3: to merge if the traffic is flowing, but if it's

1975
01:34:01,532 --> 01:34:04,333
Speaker 3: bumper to bumper traffic on the motorway, then it doesn't

1976
01:34:04,333 --> 01:34:06,372
Speaker 3: get that much trickier. Oh, sorry, you're going mate.

1977
01:34:07,452 --> 01:34:09,932
Speaker 13: That's where that's where you're not using your norgan.

1978
01:34:10,772 --> 01:34:13,933
Speaker 2: It's experiences every day, George.

1979
01:34:14,372 --> 01:34:16,452
Speaker 13: You're coming onto the motorway and it's bumping and bump

1980
01:34:16,692 --> 01:34:20,213
Speaker 13: and it's moving it about ten k and what you'll

1981
01:34:20,213 --> 01:34:22,612
Speaker 13: see what that truck driver has noted that people will

1982
01:34:22,652 --> 01:34:24,692
Speaker 13: go halfway along the merging lane and then they kind

1983
01:34:24,692 --> 01:34:26,812
Speaker 13: of come to almost to stop and try and slot in.

1984
01:34:27,253 --> 01:34:30,412
Speaker 13: And that caused huge What we're doing if you're coming

1985
01:34:30,452 --> 01:34:31,052
Speaker 13: onto it.

1986
01:34:31,053 --> 01:34:31,652
Speaker 2: It just worked.

1987
01:34:31,732 --> 01:34:34,852
Speaker 13: Just it's the same. It's a speed control exercise. So

1988
01:34:35,293 --> 01:34:37,532
Speaker 13: you come down the merging lane, you're doing a sixty cawn.

1989
01:34:37,612 --> 01:34:40,852
Speaker 13: Oh the motorway's choker and it's doing ten k. You

1990
01:34:40,933 --> 01:34:43,293
Speaker 13: just drive along the merging lane and as you get

1991
01:34:43,293 --> 01:34:45,173
Speaker 13: to the end of it, you just gradually slow down

1992
01:34:45,173 --> 01:34:47,333
Speaker 13: and slow down until you're traveling at the same speed

1993
01:34:47,372 --> 01:34:48,692
Speaker 13: as the tack on the motorway.

1994
01:34:49,333 --> 01:34:49,692
Speaker 25: You will.

1995
01:34:50,133 --> 01:34:52,173
Speaker 13: You don't even need to use your indicator.

1996
01:34:52,293 --> 01:34:52,732
Speaker 18: Try it.

1997
01:34:52,732 --> 01:34:53,293
Speaker 6: It works.

1998
01:34:53,572 --> 01:34:57,732
Speaker 2: You're a voice of reason and a traveling time.

1999
01:34:58,732 --> 01:35:00,892
Speaker 13: If I can just said one more thing that's in

2000
01:35:00,973 --> 01:35:03,893
Speaker 13: the road code. It also says use all of the

2001
01:35:03,973 --> 01:35:05,813
Speaker 13: merging lane emphaside.

2002
01:35:06,253 --> 01:35:08,053
Speaker 3: Well, that is what I said. Originally I thought that

2003
01:35:08,173 --> 01:35:09,612
Speaker 3: was the road code that you've got to use the

2004
01:35:09,612 --> 01:35:10,532
Speaker 3: whole merging land.

2005
01:35:11,253 --> 01:35:11,933
Speaker 12: Yeah.

2006
01:35:12,772 --> 01:35:17,333
Speaker 2: Oh, George Aby hasn't merged into an oncoming truck.

2007
01:35:17,412 --> 01:35:19,652
Speaker 3: I'm sure all is okay with George. But yeah, thank

2008
01:35:19,652 --> 01:35:24,932
Speaker 3: you very much for the reason, Shane. You sorry, Graham,

2009
01:35:24,973 --> 01:35:26,812
Speaker 3: you've got a road rage trigger.

2010
01:35:28,772 --> 01:35:31,452
Speaker 27: Oh, there's a couple of things go on. You get

2011
01:35:31,492 --> 01:35:33,572
Speaker 27: these people, particularly in the cities and there, to pull

2012
01:35:33,652 --> 01:35:36,452
Speaker 27: up to an intersection. There's not two lanes up there,

2013
01:35:36,492 --> 01:35:38,852
Speaker 27: but there's not for two vehicles, and they certain the

2014
01:35:38,933 --> 01:35:41,492
Speaker 27: might of medal. Now they might have to cross street

2015
01:35:41,692 --> 01:35:45,372
Speaker 27: turn say right, but you've got a free run list

2016
01:35:45,412 --> 01:35:48,772
Speaker 27: and they just hold you up, and people are not

2017
01:35:49,133 --> 01:35:52,852
Speaker 27: thinking about the people behind you. I live several red

2018
01:35:52,933 --> 01:35:55,612
Speaker 27: lights on the motorway, and a red light will come

2019
01:35:55,652 --> 01:35:58,812
Speaker 27: up and I'll see it from eight hundred meters away

2020
01:35:59,333 --> 01:36:02,772
Speaker 27: and people will slow down and sometimes leave seventy meters

2021
01:36:02,812 --> 01:36:05,293
Speaker 27: in front of them. There my particular suburb, there's a

2022
01:36:05,333 --> 01:36:08,133
Speaker 27: third thing to pull over with a free vast and

2023
01:36:08,372 --> 01:36:12,772
Speaker 27: sometimes a week behind. Those things extremely frustrating when they

2024
01:36:12,893 --> 01:36:16,013
Speaker 27: used to have a manual van with a dodgy gearbox.

2025
01:36:16,053 --> 01:36:20,013
Speaker 27: But I still just think that the people behind you,

2026
01:36:20,013 --> 01:36:22,772
Speaker 27: you know, just that those things will just trigger people.

2027
01:36:23,173 --> 01:36:26,173
Speaker 27: There's another third thing that goes on where we've got

2028
01:36:26,652 --> 01:36:29,293
Speaker 27: people that drive on their GPS and people that drive

2029
01:36:29,372 --> 01:36:32,732
Speaker 27: on their speedo. Now generally speedos are about eight to

2030
01:36:32,853 --> 01:36:35,612
Speaker 27: ten k's less than the speed litters, So the people

2031
01:36:35,692 --> 01:36:39,092
Speaker 27: driving on their gps are pissed off of the people

2032
01:36:39,133 --> 01:36:41,333
Speaker 27: that are slow in front of them. The people are

2033
01:36:41,412 --> 01:36:44,572
Speaker 27: driving by their speedo think the people behind them as

2034
01:36:44,652 --> 01:36:47,772
Speaker 27: speeding and you've got that, you've got those people, and

2035
01:36:47,893 --> 01:36:51,652
Speaker 27: all those three things trigger people. You know, my I

2036
01:36:52,053 --> 01:36:56,333
Speaker 27: developed shorts and Turett's. I've driven up from Willington. I'm

2037
01:36:56,372 --> 01:36:58,372
Speaker 27: going to hand and down to the Moto Fest to

2038
01:36:58,412 --> 01:37:02,333
Speaker 27: watch the Britain racing this weekend, just to play for

2039
01:37:02,372 --> 01:37:05,492
Speaker 27: a head there. But I you know, you're just people

2040
01:37:05,572 --> 01:37:08,293
Speaker 27: that just don't think about the others on the road

2041
01:37:08,093 --> 01:37:10,452
Speaker 27: and there's no reason to have road rage. But just

2042
01:37:10,492 --> 01:37:11,452
Speaker 27: don't trigger people.

2043
01:37:11,853 --> 01:37:14,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Graham, Yeah, I mean you're always going to

2044
01:37:14,532 --> 01:37:17,612
Speaker 2: run into idiots on the roads. That's an inevitability. But

2045
01:37:17,692 --> 01:37:21,093
Speaker 2: what you can do is just take a breath, yep,

2046
01:37:22,933 --> 01:37:25,652
Speaker 2: and just accept that idiots exist. But that doesn't mean

2047
01:37:25,732 --> 01:37:28,053
Speaker 2: that you aren't a great person that you can't just

2048
01:37:28,173 --> 01:37:29,093
Speaker 2: drive the friendly way.

2049
01:37:29,133 --> 01:37:31,973
Speaker 3: Exactly. It's Friday, it's almost happy hour. It's going to

2050
01:37:32,013 --> 01:37:32,412
Speaker 3: be all right.

2051
01:37:32,572 --> 01:37:34,253
Speaker 2: I tell you who, I tell you. You never see

2052
01:37:34,253 --> 01:37:38,293
Speaker 2: people in Evolvo XC ninety driving poorly, dear.

2053
01:37:38,253 --> 01:37:42,093
Speaker 3: No great vehicle, great drivers, just all around. It's a

2054
01:37:42,093 --> 01:37:44,692
Speaker 3: good time and involve o XC ninety. We got time

2055
01:37:44,692 --> 01:37:46,653
Speaker 3: for Shane. Yeah, we've got time for Shane.

2056
01:37:47,133 --> 01:37:51,572
Speaker 2: Shane. Welcome to the show. Your thoughts, Ah.

2057
01:37:51,173 --> 01:37:55,653
Speaker 18: You know, I'm just listening to everything, and basically, I've

2058
01:37:56,013 --> 01:38:00,613
Speaker 18: risked been the receiving end of road rage. I've delivered

2059
01:38:00,652 --> 01:38:05,012
Speaker 18: my own bits of road rage in my past, got

2060
01:38:05,013 --> 01:38:08,892
Speaker 18: sent to anger management because of it, and did a

2061
01:38:08,893 --> 01:38:10,372
Speaker 18: bit of a dive into some.

2062
01:38:10,372 --> 01:38:13,893
Speaker 2: Fisty cuffs psychology. What Shane, if you get into the

2063
01:38:13,933 --> 01:38:15,013
Speaker 2: fisty cuffs.

2064
01:38:16,253 --> 01:38:19,253
Speaker 18: Yeah, a little bit. You know, just followed someone home

2065
01:38:19,412 --> 01:38:21,612
Speaker 18: parked in their driveway so they couldn't get away from me.

2066
01:38:21,732 --> 01:38:23,772
Speaker 2: Wow, that's on the outer edge of road rage.

2067
01:38:23,853 --> 01:38:27,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's court mandated anger management, like the movie

2068
01:38:28,053 --> 01:38:28,572
Speaker 3: pretty much.

2069
01:38:28,652 --> 01:38:30,852
Speaker 18: Yeah, but it was back in the essay, it wasn't

2070
01:38:30,893 --> 01:38:32,532
Speaker 18: here and what I.

2071
01:38:32,412 --> 01:38:35,093
Speaker 2: Imagine an essay it'd be risky getting involved in too

2072
01:38:35,173 --> 01:38:38,532
Speaker 2: much road rage. I mean we hear a lot of gamble, Yeah,

2073
01:38:38,973 --> 01:38:40,732
Speaker 2: a gamble, a few more guns floating around.

2074
01:38:41,492 --> 01:38:43,173
Speaker 18: Yeah, you never know what's going to get out of

2075
01:38:43,173 --> 01:38:45,412
Speaker 18: the car. But you know, live life on the edge

2076
01:38:45,412 --> 01:38:46,012
Speaker 18: when you're young.

2077
01:38:46,253 --> 01:38:49,013
Speaker 2: What did you learn in anger management? And it did

2078
01:38:49,013 --> 01:38:49,452
Speaker 2: it help you?

2079
01:38:51,093 --> 01:38:54,692
Speaker 18: Basically, we dived quite deeply into the psychology of time

2080
01:38:54,812 --> 01:38:58,612
Speaker 18: behind anger and particularly road roads, and the fact is

2081
01:38:59,173 --> 01:39:02,892
Speaker 18: the majority of people on the road are in too

2082
01:39:02,973 --> 01:39:07,892
Speaker 18: much of a rush to get anywhere, and they lose

2083
01:39:08,053 --> 01:39:11,253
Speaker 18: all passion for anyone else on the road. Like everyone else,

2084
01:39:11,492 --> 01:39:13,293
Speaker 18: I don't care about you. Get out of my way.

2085
01:39:13,452 --> 01:39:17,612
Speaker 18: I'm more important, agreed, And that's where the problem lies.

2086
01:39:17,812 --> 01:39:21,572
Speaker 18: And ever since I made that shift, Like my drive home,

2087
01:39:21,612 --> 01:39:24,093
Speaker 18: even though my drive to work is twenty minutes and

2088
01:39:24,093 --> 01:39:27,173
Speaker 18: my drive home is an hour and a half, Like,

2089
01:39:27,973 --> 01:39:30,732
Speaker 18: it doesn't phaze me. I just, you know, put on

2090
01:39:30,772 --> 01:39:33,412
Speaker 18: the radio, chill out. I think, do you can press

2091
01:39:33,452 --> 01:39:35,652
Speaker 18: from my day at work? So when I get home,

2092
01:39:35,692 --> 01:39:36,572
Speaker 18: I'm in a good mood.

2093
01:39:36,933 --> 01:39:37,253
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2094
01:39:37,333 --> 01:39:39,333
Speaker 18: And if you think about it, you drive in a

2095
01:39:39,412 --> 01:39:42,612
Speaker 18: rush to get home, and you let everyone else around

2096
01:39:42,652 --> 01:39:46,133
Speaker 18: you pest you off you get home, What does your

2097
01:39:46,133 --> 01:39:51,452
Speaker 18: family see? You're permanently pessed off, You're permanently angry. Yeah,

2098
01:39:51,692 --> 01:39:53,492
Speaker 18: if you've felt kids, what are you passing on to

2099
01:39:53,572 --> 01:39:55,372
Speaker 18: your kids? That's the reason I made the change in

2100
01:39:55,412 --> 01:39:57,692
Speaker 18: my life, Like, I didn't want my child growing up

2101
01:39:57,812 --> 01:40:02,253
Speaker 18: being a loose scannon just going around smashing anyone that

2102
01:40:02,452 --> 01:40:04,253
Speaker 18: looks at them. Funny, good, cool.

2103
01:40:04,293 --> 01:40:05,933
Speaker 2: It's a risky way to live, isn't it. And you

2104
01:40:06,093 --> 01:40:09,372
Speaker 2: and you're just allowing people to take over your mind

2105
01:40:09,412 --> 01:40:11,093
Speaker 2: aren't you. That's the thing. I mean, they're acting like

2106
01:40:11,093 --> 01:40:14,173
Speaker 2: an idiot, and suddenly they have they're in near They've

2107
01:40:14,213 --> 01:40:17,293
Speaker 2: taken hold of your emotions. You're angry and it makes

2108
01:40:17,293 --> 01:40:17,972
Speaker 2: you life worse.

2109
01:40:18,853 --> 01:40:20,333
Speaker 18: Yeah. But I mean if you look at it, like

2110
01:40:20,492 --> 01:40:23,133
Speaker 18: you can see when someone is a nervous driver, right,

2111
01:40:23,812 --> 01:40:26,532
Speaker 18: Like everyone can tell there's a nervous driver. They're breaking

2112
01:40:26,572 --> 01:40:30,133
Speaker 18: on every corner, they're keeping a big distance following the

2113
01:40:30,213 --> 01:40:32,532
Speaker 18: car in front of them. Okay, maybe they just passed

2114
01:40:32,572 --> 01:40:35,412
Speaker 18: their license, maybe they don't know where. There are a

2115
01:40:35,452 --> 01:40:39,333
Speaker 18: million different reasons why they're driving slowly. What is the

2116
01:40:39,372 --> 01:40:41,732
Speaker 18: point in letting them affect you so much? Is it

2117
01:40:42,013 --> 01:40:45,892
Speaker 18: so important to get home? Exactly? At that moment, you

2118
01:40:45,893 --> 01:40:47,892
Speaker 18: know it, just chill out.

2119
01:40:48,173 --> 01:40:49,732
Speaker 2: We're all going to die one day. Do we want

2120
01:40:49,732 --> 01:40:52,092
Speaker 2: to spend our time on this planet just filthy angry

2121
01:40:52,173 --> 01:40:53,772
Speaker 2: at someone that's not a very good driver.

2122
01:40:53,933 --> 01:40:57,452
Speaker 18: Yeah exactly. I mean we're all stressed enough as it

2123
01:40:57,572 --> 01:41:01,812
Speaker 18: is with everything, with prices, grocers, rent, everything else. It's

2124
01:41:01,893 --> 01:41:06,213
Speaker 18: ridiculous and it's hard enough like living. Why add more

2125
01:41:06,253 --> 01:41:08,932
Speaker 18: stress to your life. I don't get it. I used

2126
01:41:08,933 --> 01:41:12,652
Speaker 18: to be there. Yeah, well, thank you so much, real,

2127
01:41:12,772 --> 01:41:15,532
Speaker 18: young you know, yeah, exactly, move on.

2128
01:41:15,893 --> 01:41:16,093
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2129
01:41:16,133 --> 01:41:18,652
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, Shane, and congratulations on your

2130
01:41:18,652 --> 01:41:21,492
Speaker 2: personal growth and it's great to see you in a

2131
01:41:21,492 --> 01:41:22,052
Speaker 2: better place.

2132
01:41:22,213 --> 01:41:23,532
Speaker 3: He sounded very chill, didn't he.

2133
01:41:23,452 --> 01:41:25,372
Speaker 2: He did for a guy that followed someone home into

2134
01:41:25,412 --> 01:41:28,293
Speaker 2: their driveway and got sent down management course, I'll tell

2135
01:41:28,333 --> 01:41:30,693
Speaker 2: you what before we finish this topic. It's been fantastic

2136
01:41:30,732 --> 01:41:32,772
Speaker 2: and thanks so much for your text and phone calls.

2137
01:41:32,853 --> 01:41:35,652
Speaker 2: It's been a brilliant discussion. But I'm currently teaching my

2138
01:41:35,692 --> 01:41:37,372
Speaker 2: son how to drive, so I've got the l plates

2139
01:41:37,412 --> 01:41:39,412
Speaker 2: on and I can't be bother taking them off and on,

2140
01:41:39,492 --> 01:41:41,253
Speaker 2: you know, out of the windows when I'm in and out.

2141
01:41:41,253 --> 01:41:43,452
Speaker 2: So I'm just driving around with the learner plates on.

2142
01:41:43,532 --> 01:41:46,293
Speaker 2: I've seen it, and I'm pretty sure people are treating

2143
01:41:46,333 --> 01:41:49,532
Speaker 2: me worse. I'm pretty sure people aren't letting me in.

2144
01:41:50,452 --> 01:41:54,652
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they they are getting right up my butt.

2145
01:41:54,772 --> 01:41:56,812
Speaker 2: I think people see a learner plate and this is

2146
01:41:56,853 --> 01:41:59,772
Speaker 2: his This speaks to some kind of evil undercurrent in

2147
01:41:59,772 --> 01:42:02,293
Speaker 2: our community that they will make it harder for you

2148
01:42:02,372 --> 01:42:03,652
Speaker 2: to drive as a learner.

2149
01:42:03,893 --> 01:42:05,852
Speaker 3: How do you try and learn how to drive on

2150
01:42:05,933 --> 01:42:06,652
Speaker 3: my motorway?

2151
01:42:07,253 --> 01:42:09,812
Speaker 2: I don't have any the odes starter on it, but

2152
01:42:09,893 --> 01:42:12,333
Speaker 2: I just get the feeling with the learner plates on people.

2153
01:42:12,492 --> 01:42:14,213
Speaker 2: They're just like I can't be bothered with a learner,

2154
01:42:14,532 --> 01:42:15,492
Speaker 2: so they make it hard for.

2155
01:42:15,452 --> 01:42:19,732
Speaker 3: You learn how to drive. Thank you very much. Right

2156
01:42:19,772 --> 01:42:23,652
Speaker 3: headlines coming up then New Zealander of the weekend. After

2157
01:42:23,732 --> 01:42:25,052
Speaker 3: that topical tunes.

2158
01:42:25,333 --> 01:42:27,213
Speaker 2: Here's a text just to finish. Gents, agree with your

2159
01:42:27,213 --> 01:42:30,652
Speaker 2: comments about good drivers. That's Ellen, who drives an XTE.

2160
01:42:30,652 --> 01:42:35,012
Speaker 3: Nineteenth beautiful vehicle. Thank you Ellen. Just up our sponsors

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01:42:35,612 --> 01:42:36,732
Speaker 3: twenty five to four.

2162
01:42:39,812 --> 01:42:43,133
Speaker 1: You talk said be headlines with Blue bubble taxis.

2163
01:42:43,253 --> 01:42:45,052
Speaker 11: It's no trouble with the Blue bubble.

2164
01:42:45,412 --> 01:42:46,812
Speaker 3: Health New Zealand's getting back.

2165
01:42:46,893 --> 01:42:47,532
Speaker 2: It's bored.

2166
01:42:47,772 --> 01:42:52,253
Speaker 11: With Commissioner Lesta Levy leaving from about July. The government's

2167
01:42:52,293 --> 01:42:55,532
Speaker 11: also eyeing up working more closely with the private sector,

2168
01:42:55,812 --> 01:42:59,732
Speaker 11: still trying to bring down waiting lists. The Pharmacy Council

2169
01:42:59,812 --> 01:43:04,173
Speaker 11: is standing firm against ACT criticism of its competency guidelines,

2170
01:43:04,612 --> 01:43:08,612
Speaker 11: including consideration of the Treaty and Mardy. The Council says

2171
01:43:08,612 --> 01:43:12,452
Speaker 11: pharmacists need to understand and respect a patient's background without

2172
01:43:12,492 --> 01:43:16,892
Speaker 11: buyers to ensure the best outcomes. A person's in a

2173
01:43:16,933 --> 01:43:20,452
Speaker 11: critical condition after a car and a motorcycle collided at

2174
01:43:20,452 --> 01:43:24,453
Speaker 11: the intersection of Shellbank and Bush Roads in Wayakotors Picpua

2175
01:43:24,772 --> 01:43:27,652
Speaker 11: about twenty past two. The road will be closed for

2176
01:43:27,732 --> 01:43:31,652
Speaker 11: some time and State Highway three is closed at Igmont

2177
01:43:31,732 --> 01:43:36,053
Speaker 11: Village after a two vehicle crash Ashburton's mayor wants to

2178
01:43:36,133 --> 01:43:40,412
Speaker 11: find contractors who leave cones lying on roads after works

2179
01:43:40,452 --> 01:43:45,372
Speaker 11: complete it or Agatamadiki workers are downing tools until five tonight,

2180
01:43:45,692 --> 01:43:51,733
Speaker 11: protesting a payoffer they call insulting pig brains and oxygen chambers.

2181
01:43:52,333 --> 01:43:57,013
Speaker 11: How the super richer biohacking their way to immortality. You

2182
01:43:57,013 --> 01:43:59,892
Speaker 11: can read more at enz Herald Premium. Now back to

2183
01:43:59,933 --> 01:44:04,813
Speaker 11: matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

2184
01:44:05,532 --> 01:44:07,893
Speaker 2: Every Friday on Mantala afternoons on zb we name the

2185
01:44:07,933 --> 01:44:10,012
Speaker 2: New Zual of the week and on a wee bestow

2186
01:44:10,093 --> 01:44:12,333
Speaker 2: on your behalf to a newsmaker has had an outsized

2187
01:44:12,333 --> 01:44:15,532
Speaker 2: effect on the great and beautiful nation that we love.

2188
01:44:15,853 --> 01:44:18,253
Speaker 2: As always, there will be three nominees for only one winner.

2189
01:44:18,253 --> 01:44:20,412
Speaker 2: And remember, like the Time magazine Person of the Year,

2190
01:44:20,452 --> 01:44:22,372
Speaker 2: the New Zealand of the Week isn't always an agent

2191
01:44:22,372 --> 01:44:25,093
Speaker 2: of good. They are often placed on the list sarcastically.

2192
01:44:25,372 --> 01:44:28,852
Speaker 2: Sometimes they're good, sometimes they're bad. It's confusing even for

2193
01:44:28,973 --> 01:44:31,972
Speaker 2: me and I write this rubbish. So, without further ado,

2194
01:44:32,452 --> 01:44:35,053
Speaker 2: the nominees for Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealander of

2195
01:44:35,093 --> 01:44:38,772
Speaker 2: the Week. AH nomine one also gets the own Goal Award.

2196
01:44:39,133 --> 01:44:42,572
Speaker 2: There is no government job more cushy and glamorous than

2197
01:44:42,652 --> 01:44:45,892
Speaker 2: the UK High Commissioner. You get a driver, a nice car.

2198
01:44:46,093 --> 01:44:49,772
Speaker 2: It's whining, dining canopies, nice digs and cocktail parties. All

2199
01:44:49,812 --> 01:44:52,572
Speaker 2: you have to do to keep this plush gig is

2200
01:44:52,612 --> 01:44:56,532
Speaker 2: not insult major political leaders in risky times. Fill God,

2201
01:44:57,013 --> 01:44:58,852
Speaker 2: we're kicking it straight into the back of your own

2202
01:44:58,853 --> 01:45:01,732
Speaker 2: net and ending your career with the lame historical ryer side.

2203
01:45:02,013 --> 01:45:04,812
Speaker 2: You have been nominated for New Zealander of the Week.

2204
01:45:05,612 --> 01:45:06,173
Speaker 20: What we you?

2205
01:45:06,452 --> 01:45:09,612
Speaker 2: Thank you two So gets the toys out of the

2206
01:45:09,612 --> 01:45:12,293
Speaker 2: cod Award. He opened the biggest cash hos and history

2207
01:45:12,333 --> 01:45:14,652
Speaker 2: sprayed it everywhere, then went to sleep and failed to

2208
01:45:14,652 --> 01:45:16,492
Speaker 2: tame the tiger that came out the other end. So

2209
01:45:16,532 --> 01:45:19,053
Speaker 2: he shoved us into a recession to band aid over

2210
01:45:19,093 --> 01:45:22,253
Speaker 2: his own mistakes, hired a million people to help him,

2211
01:45:22,293 --> 01:45:24,972
Speaker 2: and got eight hundred K a year to do it, Adrian,

2212
01:45:25,133 --> 01:45:27,213
Speaker 2: or for packing a sad and quitting your job. You

2213
01:45:27,253 --> 01:45:30,492
Speaker 2: were useless at anyway. You are nominated for New Zealander of.

2214
01:45:30,452 --> 01:45:35,053
Speaker 3: The Week, all right, matey, and.

2215
01:45:34,812 --> 01:45:36,173
Speaker 2: The winner, I mean there can only be one New

2216
01:45:36,253 --> 01:45:39,572
Speaker 2: Zealand of the Week sadly, and the winner also gets

2217
01:45:39,612 --> 01:45:42,013
Speaker 2: the Hangover four Award. They traveled to the City of

2218
01:45:42,053 --> 01:45:44,333
Speaker 2: Sin and did what so many keyws have done before.

2219
01:45:44,572 --> 01:45:46,972
Speaker 2: They humiliated themselves and flew home with their tails between

2220
01:45:47,013 --> 01:45:49,372
Speaker 2: their legs. By all accounts, they didn't hit the town

2221
01:45:49,412 --> 01:45:51,452
Speaker 2: and collectively wake up in the morning on the floor

2222
01:45:51,492 --> 01:45:53,532
Speaker 2: of a hotel room with a tiger in the bathroom,

2223
01:45:53,853 --> 01:45:55,852
Speaker 2: but by the way they played, they might as well

2224
01:45:55,933 --> 01:45:59,012
Speaker 2: have come on with Mike Tyson facial tattoos, baby strapped

2225
01:45:59,013 --> 01:46:01,612
Speaker 2: to their torsos, black eyes, missing teeth, and no memory

2226
01:46:01,612 --> 01:46:04,772
Speaker 2: of the night before. The New Zealand Warriors for coming

2227
01:46:04,812 --> 01:46:07,572
Speaker 2: home humbled, ready to put your life back together after

2228
01:46:07,572 --> 01:46:10,852
Speaker 2: a trip to Vegas. You are the Matt and Tyler

2229
01:46:11,492 --> 01:46:17,852
Speaker 2: Afternoons New Zealanders of the Week. Yes, boys, we still

2230
01:46:17,853 --> 01:46:19,612
Speaker 2: love you. There's a lot of games to go on

2231
01:46:19,692 --> 01:46:22,652
Speaker 2: the season. It's a long season. See you at Mount

2232
01:46:22,692 --> 01:46:30,612
Speaker 2: Smart next week. You ever gonna taste that keyway. Very

2233
01:46:30,652 --> 01:46:33,532
Speaker 2: long season, only one game, keep the faith, only one game,

2234
01:46:33,652 --> 01:46:50,812
Speaker 2: novel the game doesn't count, probably not earlier.

2235
01:46:46,372 --> 01:46:48,932
Speaker 3: As always, very well deserved winner this week.

2236
01:46:50,213 --> 01:46:52,492
Speaker 2: It's a long season. I was watching that game that

2237
01:46:52,572 --> 01:46:54,133
Speaker 2: was going it's a long season already?

2238
01:46:54,933 --> 01:46:56,412
Speaker 3: How long do we say that too? Do we say

2239
01:46:56,572 --> 01:46:58,052
Speaker 3: about the middle of the season?

2240
01:46:58,093 --> 01:47:00,612
Speaker 2: About halfway at half time? I was already saying it,

2241
01:47:00,612 --> 01:47:01,532
Speaker 2: it's a long worri yah.

2242
01:47:01,572 --> 01:47:03,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a long way to go. It's not

2243
01:47:03,053 --> 01:47:07,572
Speaker 3: over yet, right. It is time for topical tunes. It's

2244
01:47:07,612 --> 01:47:09,932
Speaker 3: a game we play each Friday. We're Matt and I

2245
01:47:09,973 --> 01:47:13,372
Speaker 3: each pick a song related to a story of the week,

2246
01:47:13,492 --> 01:47:15,732
Speaker 3: theme of the week, if you will, and the first

2247
01:47:15,772 --> 01:47:19,133
Speaker 3: to three votes via phone take set out. I think

2248
01:47:19,173 --> 01:47:20,892
Speaker 3: you're slightly a hid.

2249
01:47:21,053 --> 01:47:22,532
Speaker 2: It was to do itally on that at some point.

2250
01:47:22,572 --> 01:47:24,253
Speaker 2: It's unprofessional that we don't know, but I think I'm

2251
01:47:24,253 --> 01:47:25,892
Speaker 2: a hid. You won last week though I did.

2252
01:47:26,013 --> 01:47:29,772
Speaker 3: Yes, so I'm closing in, but I believe you're up

2253
01:47:29,933 --> 01:47:32,253
Speaker 3: four I am three.

2254
01:47:32,492 --> 01:47:34,772
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. So this is this is really important.

2255
01:47:34,772 --> 01:47:36,932
Speaker 2: This one e one hundred and eighty ten eighty Who's

2256
01:47:37,013 --> 01:47:39,253
Speaker 2: tune is most topical who's tuned? Do you want to hear?

2257
01:47:39,492 --> 01:47:39,572
Speaker 5: So?

2258
01:47:39,652 --> 01:47:41,653
Speaker 3: Do I start? Because when it go first.

2259
01:47:41,452 --> 01:47:43,852
Speaker 2: You certainly do. You're you're a winner in this one

2260
01:47:43,893 --> 01:47:45,093
Speaker 2: small aspect, but go for it.

2261
01:47:45,333 --> 01:47:47,333
Speaker 3: So there was a lot of chat about horse manure,

2262
01:47:47,412 --> 01:47:51,612
Speaker 3: horse droppings, horse leavings. It all turned to be a

2263
01:47:51,612 --> 01:47:53,932
Speaker 3: bit of a storm and a teacup.

2264
01:47:53,492 --> 01:47:55,572
Speaker 2: Arguably too much talk an hour and a half on

2265
01:47:55,572 --> 01:47:57,253
Speaker 2: our show on when was that Wednesday?

2266
01:47:57,372 --> 01:47:59,972
Speaker 3: Hey, the by in was phenomenal, but read that number

2267
01:48:00,013 --> 01:48:02,532
Speaker 3: of text and calls turned out after Mike Coskin actually

2268
01:48:02,532 --> 01:48:04,732
Speaker 3: got one of the I think it was the deputy

2269
01:48:04,732 --> 01:48:06,253
Speaker 3: mirror on the program to say it was never an

2270
01:48:06,253 --> 01:48:08,492
Speaker 3: issue in the first place. The horse can take can

2271
01:48:08,532 --> 01:48:10,133
Speaker 3: pool on the road and we're not going to freak

2272
01:48:10,173 --> 01:48:13,452
Speaker 3: out about it. But my song today is Horse with

2273
01:48:13,652 --> 01:48:17,973
Speaker 3: No Name?

2274
01:48:19,173 --> 01:48:26,492
Speaker 2: To you you have the song's only got two chords?

2275
01:48:27,093 --> 01:48:27,612
Speaker 19: That's all right?

2276
01:48:27,933 --> 01:48:30,293
Speaker 3: Yeah you? Is there a c in there?

2277
01:48:30,492 --> 01:48:33,452
Speaker 2: I think that'd be is a G and F No,

2278
01:48:35,412 --> 01:48:36,573
Speaker 2: only got two cords.

2279
01:48:36,452 --> 01:48:41,173
Speaker 3: Chords Horse with No Name America? Anyway, great song went

2280
01:48:41,333 --> 01:48:43,572
Speaker 3: undred eighty t and eighty. If you really like that song,

2281
01:48:43,612 --> 01:48:44,852
Speaker 3: what have you got? Well?

2282
01:48:45,532 --> 01:48:48,492
Speaker 2: So Reserve Bank Governor Adrian or pact, a sad and quit,

2283
01:48:48,532 --> 01:48:51,333
Speaker 2: probably because he was told to rain his expenditure and

2284
01:48:52,173 --> 01:48:55,293
Speaker 2: stop hiring millions of people. High Commission to the UK

2285
01:48:55,333 --> 01:48:57,932
Speaker 2: Phil Goff foolishly had a swing at Donald Trump as

2286
01:48:58,412 --> 01:49:01,293
Speaker 2: some poorly attended Q and A with Finland got axed

2287
01:49:01,372 --> 01:49:04,492
Speaker 2: by Winnie Peters and then Greg for and stepped down

2288
01:49:04,612 --> 01:49:07,893
Speaker 2: as a CEO of in New Zealand AF after a

2289
01:49:07,973 --> 01:49:11,572
Speaker 2: t time and the cock pets. There's a lot of

2290
01:49:11,572 --> 01:49:22,493
Speaker 2: people saying godbye, which makes my tune pretty topical. Absolute

2291
01:49:23,093 --> 01:49:27,053
Speaker 2: uns mi steem. Song was also sung at Congressman L

2292
01:49:27,133 --> 01:49:30,333
Speaker 2: Green when he was walked out of the Joint Session

2293
01:49:30,372 --> 01:49:34,892
Speaker 2: of Congress for waving a stick and yelling at Donald Trump.

2294
01:49:35,053 --> 01:49:37,093
Speaker 3: It is a great chance, is it in a stadium?

2295
01:49:37,173 --> 01:49:37,452
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2296
01:49:38,253 --> 01:49:41,492
Speaker 3: And the Congress turns out great chant, great chant when

2297
01:49:41,492 --> 01:49:43,772
Speaker 3: you want to shame somebody, ow of a chune. Yeah right,

2298
01:49:43,853 --> 01:49:46,532
Speaker 3: Oh wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

2299
01:49:46,572 --> 01:49:48,973
Speaker 3: to call. First to three votes takes it out. If

2300
01:49:48,973 --> 01:49:50,412
Speaker 3: you want to teach you more than welcome. We don't

2301
01:49:50,452 --> 01:49:51,852
Speaker 3: count them, but we like seeing them.

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01:49:52,053 --> 01:49:52,372
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2303
01:49:52,933 --> 01:49:54,052
Speaker 3: Nine two is the text number.

2304
01:49:54,173 --> 01:49:56,133
Speaker 2: Yeah. If you want to affect the outcome, you've got

2305
01:49:56,133 --> 01:49:58,412
Speaker 2: to turn up at the booth and the polling booth

2306
01:49:58,572 --> 01:50:02,453
Speaker 2: is eight hundred eighty ten eighty. My tune or Tyler's

2307
01:50:02,572 --> 01:50:03,372
Speaker 2: it is quarter to.

2308
01:50:03,372 --> 01:50:07,253
Speaker 1: Four the issues that affect you and if it have

2309
01:50:07,372 --> 01:50:10,452
Speaker 1: fun along the way Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the

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01:50:10,532 --> 01:50:13,612
Speaker 1: Volvo XC eighty Innovation, Style and design.

2311
01:50:13,812 --> 01:50:15,652
Speaker 2: Have it all you talk said.

2312
01:50:15,452 --> 01:50:18,412
Speaker 3: Be good afternoon at it's time for topical tune. So

2313
01:50:18,492 --> 01:50:20,093
Speaker 3: on the back of an hour and a half of

2314
01:50:20,173 --> 01:50:26,293
Speaker 3: horsepoop chat, here is my song today, the Dropping, the Dropping,

2315
01:50:25,973 --> 01:50:29,412
Speaker 3: drop droppings with no name America.

2316
01:50:29,652 --> 01:50:31,172
Speaker 2: If it eats grass, it's droppings.

2317
01:50:31,213 --> 01:50:32,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, love it all right?

2318
01:50:32,293 --> 01:50:34,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is my song on the back of

2319
01:50:35,213 --> 01:50:38,372
Speaker 2: Reserve Bank Governor Adrian or packing us out.

2320
01:50:38,213 --> 01:50:38,772
Speaker 5: And cooking.

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01:50:46,612 --> 01:50:49,973
Speaker 3: Good song right. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

2322
01:50:50,053 --> 01:50:52,213
Speaker 3: number to call full lines. But if you can't get through,

2323
01:50:52,572 --> 01:50:53,293
Speaker 3: keep trying.

2324
01:50:54,293 --> 01:50:56,772
Speaker 2: James, what's your song of choice?

2325
01:50:58,173 --> 01:51:00,333
Speaker 21: Well, we're gonna have to go through the dissert or

2326
01:51:00,572 --> 01:51:01,012
Speaker 21: no name?

2327
01:51:01,372 --> 01:51:05,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, beauty, James, Janks, you have a great weekend. Disappointing

2328
01:51:06,173 --> 01:51:06,772
Speaker 2: one for me?

2329
01:51:07,253 --> 01:51:08,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, none for me.

2330
01:51:08,372 --> 01:51:10,133
Speaker 2: I mean it's only got two chords. Does it really

2331
01:51:10,213 --> 01:51:10,892
Speaker 2: count as a song?

2332
01:51:11,893 --> 01:51:13,652
Speaker 3: Well, oh yeah, we looked it up e minor in

2333
01:51:13,772 --> 01:51:15,133
Speaker 3: D six slash nine.

2334
01:51:15,213 --> 01:51:15,372
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2335
01:51:15,412 --> 01:51:16,973
Speaker 2: I think generally when you're having a song like that,

2336
01:51:17,013 --> 01:51:19,213
Speaker 2: it has to be that relationship between the two. There's

2337
01:51:19,213 --> 01:51:22,972
Speaker 2: only yeah, it doesn't matter, there's not get technical on it. Greg,

2338
01:51:23,093 --> 01:51:26,132
Speaker 2: your your choice of song please and topical tunes.

2339
01:51:27,333 --> 01:51:28,532
Speaker 27: Well today.

2340
01:51:29,812 --> 01:51:32,412
Speaker 25: Quite a few times I want to say goodbye to you,

2341
01:51:32,492 --> 01:51:34,092
Speaker 25: Mesty all right.

2342
01:51:34,093 --> 01:51:38,972
Speaker 12: And I'm gonna have because you, because you're behind Tyler.

2343
01:51:39,452 --> 01:51:41,653
Speaker 25: I'm going to have to with that no name horse.

2344
01:51:41,572 --> 01:51:46,772
Speaker 2: You beauty well, Greg to you, I say no Nona, no, no, no,

2345
01:51:46,772 --> 01:51:51,572
Speaker 2: no goodbye, got crowd to hang up on them. Even

2346
01:51:51,572 --> 01:51:53,172
Speaker 2: though it stop talking. It didn't really work.

2347
01:51:53,532 --> 01:51:55,732
Speaker 3: Right, Josh, how are you mate?

2348
01:51:57,093 --> 01:51:57,492
Speaker 7: Tyler?

2349
01:51:57,612 --> 01:51:58,452
Speaker 3: You're the man?

2350
01:51:58,732 --> 01:52:00,652
Speaker 6: Yeah, so.

2351
01:52:02,933 --> 01:52:03,253
Speaker 2: Different.

2352
01:52:03,293 --> 01:52:06,852
Speaker 3: It's so different from that segment, Josh different. How could

2353
01:52:06,893 --> 01:52:09,692
Speaker 3: you could you confuse? You're a good man? George, thank you?

2354
01:52:10,692 --> 01:52:12,492
Speaker 3: Trail trail?

2355
01:52:12,612 --> 01:52:16,812
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, But the consolation is it's a fantastic song.

2356
01:52:17,013 --> 01:52:20,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, so crank it, enjoy it and forget about that

2357
01:52:20,452 --> 01:52:20,892
Speaker 3: horse poof.

2358
01:52:21,173 --> 01:52:22,613
Speaker 2: It was never an issue dropping.

2359
01:52:22,412 --> 01:52:29,052
Speaker 5: Started on the journey. I was looking at all the life.

2360
01:52:29,492 --> 01:52:32,172
Speaker 5: There were plants and birds.

2361
01:52:31,532 --> 01:52:33,132
Speaker 28: And rocks and things.

2362
01:52:33,293 --> 01:52:38,612
Speaker 5: There were sand and mills and rain. The first thing

2363
01:52:38,732 --> 01:52:42,052
Speaker 5: I met was the fine with the barsund the sky

2364
01:52:42,812 --> 01:52:43,932
Speaker 5: with no clown.

2365
01:52:45,532 --> 01:52:48,492
Speaker 3: The heat was hot and the ground was.

2366
01:52:48,532 --> 01:52:53,932
Speaker 5: Dry, but the air was full, long, silent up in

2367
01:52:53,973 --> 01:52:56,732
Speaker 5: through the desert on the horse to crown name. It

2368
01:52:56,893 --> 01:53:01,732
Speaker 5: felt good to be out far the rain in the desert.

2369
01:53:02,532 --> 01:53:06,293
Speaker 5: You can remember the journey because the rain no one

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Speaker 5: going to get getting on than the the.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 5: After two days in the desert, my fin began to

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01:53:29,692 --> 01:53:35,492
Speaker 5: turn ben. After three days in the desert, fun Now

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Speaker 5: I was looking out of the river bed un the

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Speaker 5: story of told of a river that foll Maybe besides

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Speaker 5: to think it was that you see.

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Speaker 28: I've been through the desert on a horse with no name.

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Speaker 28: It felt good to be out of the rain in

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01:53:55,093 --> 01:53:59,412
Speaker 28: the desert. You can't remember your day because there ain't

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Speaker 28: no one bought to give you, no pay.

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Speaker 5: The night that the horse raf free does the desert

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Speaker 5: and turned to see there were plants and birds and

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Speaker 5: dark sound things, the sounds and kills.

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Speaker 3: And what a tune. So I think that may tie

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Speaker 3: things up. We'll go back through the records and figure

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01:54:54,333 --> 01:54:56,453
Speaker 3: out what the actual telly is. But thank you very

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Speaker 3: much to everybody that voted for me.

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Speaker 2: I think it might be four to four. Yeah, Hey,

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Speaker 2: something blew my mind this week. You know the author

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Speaker 2: Bod Woman yep, the reporter for the Washington Post, you know,

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy two, would his team busted the Watergate thing open?

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Speaker 2: You know? And he's written twenty one books and I've

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01:55:14,253 --> 01:55:16,413
Speaker 2: read a bunch of them. Fire and Fury was the

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Speaker 2: Trump one, right, yep. He also wrote this book called

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Speaker 2: Wired on Belushie and you know, very respected. You could

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Speaker 2: have get a more respected writer. Yeah, but I listened

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Speaker 2: to this podcast with Bob Murray, and Bob Murray read

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Speaker 2: started reading Wired, and he said that this book is

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Speaker 2: so far from the truth that he just does not

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Speaker 2: believe anything that Woodwide has ever written in his life,

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Speaker 2: because he is he knew Belushi and he knows this

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01:55:41,293 --> 01:55:44,333
Speaker 2: is not true. Right, So it makes you think about everything.

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01:55:44,453 --> 01:55:46,933
Speaker 2: Got a question everything, don't you? You absolutely got to

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01:55:47,053 --> 01:55:50,333
Speaker 2: question everything. And every time you know something about something

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01:55:50,493 --> 01:55:52,812
Speaker 2: and it comes up it's normally wrong. If you don't

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01:55:52,812 --> 01:55:55,453
Speaker 2: know anything about it, you believe what they're saying. Bob

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Speaker 2: Woodwine nicely for the crap.

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Speaker 3: Nicely said it is seven to four, beg very shortly.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo XC

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Speaker 1: ninety attention to detail and a commitment to comfort. News

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Speaker 1: Talk ZEDB on News talks Edbjeez.

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Speaker 3: What a good week, if I do say so myself.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: When I was talking about before, I was getting my

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Speaker 2: Bob Murray's and my Bill Murray's, my Bob Woodwards and

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Speaker 2: my Bill Murray's together, Yeah, it was Bill Murray pointing

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Speaker 2: out that Bob Woodward was making stuff up about John Belushi.

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Speaker 3: And that was on Rogan, wasn't it. Yeah, Yeah, well

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Speaker 3: worth a watch pod.

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Speaker 2: I love Bill Murray. I love him.

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Speaker 3: He's very clear. Thank you very much for today and

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Speaker 3: this week. We'll do it all again next week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and across the weekend. Love your lots and give

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Speaker 2: them a taste of Kiwi whatever you're doing.

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