1 00:00:07,173 --> 00:00:10,493 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from NEWSTALKSTB. 3 00:00:13,373 --> 00:00:17,413 Speaker 2: It is fourteen minutes to eleven on Newstalk ZB. Today 4 00:00:17,453 --> 00:00:19,453 Speaker 2: is the twenty second of June. That means we're through 5 00:00:19,493 --> 00:00:22,053 Speaker 2: the winter solstice. It means there are only a few 6 00:00:22,133 --> 00:00:25,293 Speaker 2: days left before we hit the cutoff for the government 7 00:00:25,413 --> 00:00:29,173 Speaker 2: contribution to key we save A Personal finance expert Lisa 8 00:00:29,213 --> 00:00:31,613 Speaker 2: Dudson from Acumen is with us this morning. Hey Lisa, 9 00:00:32,613 --> 00:00:34,853 Speaker 2: good morning Jack. It's so good to be talking. So 10 00:00:34,973 --> 00:00:37,373 Speaker 2: talk us through what we need to have sorted. In 11 00:00:37,613 --> 00:00:40,733 Speaker 2: order to get the maximum government contribution. 12 00:00:41,813 --> 00:00:44,253 Speaker 3: By the thirtieth of June, which is where the Key 13 00:00:44,253 --> 00:00:47,973 Speaker 3: to Savor year ends, it must have contributed one thousand 14 00:00:48,013 --> 00:00:51,653 Speaker 3: and forty two during that previous twelve months for the 15 00:00:51,693 --> 00:00:54,333 Speaker 3: government to pop five hundred and twenty one dollars into 16 00:00:54,333 --> 00:00:55,373 Speaker 3: your PV Saber account. 17 00:00:55,573 --> 00:00:57,053 Speaker 2: And why is this so important? 18 00:00:58,093 --> 00:01:00,613 Speaker 3: Well, because it ends up you know, I mean, you know, 19 00:01:00,773 --> 00:01:03,973 Speaker 3: five hundred and twenty one is essentially free money, right 20 00:01:04,173 --> 00:01:07,013 Speaker 3: as long as you contribute to the found important two 21 00:01:07,053 --> 00:01:09,733 Speaker 3: per year. And it may not seem like a lot, 22 00:01:09,973 --> 00:01:13,133 Speaker 3: but when you start adding that into a time factor, 23 00:01:13,613 --> 00:01:16,653 Speaker 3: that adds up to quite aficant amount of money over 24 00:01:16,693 --> 00:01:19,493 Speaker 3: the long term if you're in your twenties, right, and 25 00:01:19,533 --> 00:01:21,453 Speaker 3: you don't want to be in a situation where you're 26 00:01:21,493 --> 00:01:23,773 Speaker 3: not maximizing every dollar that you can get. 27 00:01:23,973 --> 00:01:27,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I mean, it's it's the classic compound interesting, right, 28 00:01:27,253 --> 00:01:30,413 Speaker 2: But it's funny if you think about investments, like, there 29 00:01:30,493 --> 00:01:33,773 Speaker 2: is no investment on earth that is guaranteed to give 30 00:01:33,773 --> 00:01:36,813 Speaker 2: you a fifty percent return as safely as this. 31 00:01:36,973 --> 00:01:40,333 Speaker 3: Right, absolutely, you know, and it's free money. And the 32 00:01:40,413 --> 00:01:43,493 Speaker 3: thing I always loved that qusaper is a compulsory kind 33 00:01:43,533 --> 00:01:47,413 Speaker 3: of locked in nature of it, which you know, you know, 34 00:01:47,453 --> 00:01:49,493 Speaker 3: as a lot of value when you think about the 35 00:01:49,813 --> 00:01:52,133 Speaker 3: long term and when you get to know the sixty 36 00:01:52,173 --> 00:01:55,053 Speaker 3: five age where you can get those funds that accumulated 37 00:01:55,053 --> 00:01:57,813 Speaker 3: over time, and Albert Einstein talked about it compounding into 38 00:01:57,813 --> 00:01:59,973 Speaker 3: a spring, the aped wonder of the world, you know, 39 00:02:00,053 --> 00:02:02,773 Speaker 3: so money does significantly grow over time. 40 00:02:03,053 --> 00:02:05,853 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's surprising to me that anyone would miss this, 41 00:02:06,053 --> 00:02:09,053 Speaker 2: But people missing new experience, Oh yeah, they do. 42 00:02:09,133 --> 00:02:12,133 Speaker 3: And I think you sometimes it's a case of people 43 00:02:12,133 --> 00:02:14,733 Speaker 3: not really understanding it might be then going, oh, what, 44 00:02:14,733 --> 00:02:16,893 Speaker 3: it's only five hundred and twenty one dollars, whereas I go, 45 00:02:17,013 --> 00:02:20,213 Speaker 3: I understand the power of that over time, and you know, 46 00:02:20,613 --> 00:02:23,413 Speaker 3: sometimes as they just you know, it's they forget about. 47 00:02:23,773 --> 00:02:25,653 Speaker 3: That's the other big thing, because I do come across 48 00:02:25,653 --> 00:02:27,813 Speaker 3: people that kind of what they do is there. They 49 00:02:27,853 --> 00:02:31,133 Speaker 3: may be self employed, so they put the money in. 50 00:02:31,413 --> 00:02:33,893 Speaker 3: They have to contribute themselves rather than through you've been 51 00:02:33,893 --> 00:02:36,053 Speaker 3: an employee, and then might go, oh well, I'll just 52 00:02:36,053 --> 00:02:38,413 Speaker 3: put the lump on on every year, whereas my experiences 53 00:02:38,493 --> 00:02:40,493 Speaker 3: is you better to do that on a monthly basis, 54 00:02:40,533 --> 00:02:43,973 Speaker 3: because then you know for sure that you know you've 55 00:02:44,013 --> 00:02:46,653 Speaker 3: put enough money in to get that free government contribution. 56 00:02:46,813 --> 00:02:50,253 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, right, So Lances flicked some message this morning 57 00:02:50,253 --> 00:02:53,413 Speaker 2: to say, if I deposit one and forty two into 58 00:02:53,453 --> 00:02:55,253 Speaker 2: my kids key, we save it. Do they get the 59 00:02:55,253 --> 00:02:57,253 Speaker 2: government contribution even if they're not working. 60 00:02:58,093 --> 00:03:01,253 Speaker 3: No, unless they're over eighteen, which they're not really it 61 00:03:01,293 --> 00:03:04,573 Speaker 3: cared by then, so you only get that to become eighteen. 62 00:03:04,813 --> 00:03:06,973 Speaker 2: But if you're not working and you are over the 63 00:03:07,013 --> 00:03:09,893 Speaker 2: age of eighteen and you and you contribute that minimum, 64 00:03:09,973 --> 00:03:12,813 Speaker 2: you do get the government contribution, right. 65 00:03:13,093 --> 00:03:16,493 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, and to give in again. And 66 00:03:16,533 --> 00:03:18,493 Speaker 3: if people did, it's a normal of money. But if 67 00:03:18,493 --> 00:03:21,053 Speaker 3: I don't talking about my Cuba because I'm self empoyed, 68 00:03:21,133 --> 00:03:24,933 Speaker 3: I've only ever put the minimum in. So that's two 69 00:03:24,933 --> 00:03:28,533 Speaker 3: thousand and seven as an example, you know, the aeenth 70 00:03:28,533 --> 00:03:30,893 Speaker 3: to a start king saber, like the first month that 71 00:03:30,933 --> 00:03:32,973 Speaker 3: it was that was started. You know, I've got like 72 00:03:33,053 --> 00:03:35,053 Speaker 3: seventy five thousand dollars for in my cubsabor. 73 00:03:35,133 --> 00:03:35,373 Speaker 2: Wow. 74 00:03:35,573 --> 00:03:37,573 Speaker 3: You know, and that's by putting one thousand and forty 75 00:03:37,613 --> 00:03:40,293 Speaker 3: two in per year getting the gun from contribution albeit 76 00:03:40,773 --> 00:03:43,373 Speaker 3: the first cutting up to you head about five or so, 77 00:03:43,533 --> 00:03:45,573 Speaker 3: five or seven years, You've got a fact that they 78 00:03:45,653 --> 00:03:48,413 Speaker 3: next a dollar for dollar to two thousand and forty two, 79 00:03:48,413 --> 00:03:51,773 Speaker 3: whereas now it's obviously they paid sixteen cents on the dollar. 80 00:03:52,013 --> 00:03:53,373 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty amazing. 81 00:03:53,413 --> 00:03:53,813 Speaker 1: Eh. Yeah. 82 00:03:53,853 --> 00:03:55,933 Speaker 2: So that's that's an important point. So I'll tell you 83 00:03:56,013 --> 00:04:00,093 Speaker 2: what I do. I I have my superannuation thing, and 84 00:04:00,933 --> 00:04:03,133 Speaker 2: my work has a scheme that they had always had 85 00:04:03,133 --> 00:04:05,013 Speaker 2: a scheme that was set up kind of independently the 86 00:04:05,093 --> 00:04:07,053 Speaker 2: key we saver. So what I do is I do 87 00:04:07,133 --> 00:04:11,013 Speaker 2: the work scheme, but then in addition to that, I 88 00:04:11,053 --> 00:04:12,893 Speaker 2: do the one thousand and forty two dollars because like 89 00:04:12,893 --> 00:04:14,653 Speaker 2: I said, I'm always just like our fifty percent return, 90 00:04:14,653 --> 00:04:17,893 Speaker 2: thank you very much. Plus whatever game you get. Yeah, 91 00:04:17,933 --> 00:04:20,133 Speaker 2: so it just seems like an absolute no brainer. But 92 00:04:20,173 --> 00:04:21,653 Speaker 2: one of those things you do have to get sordered 93 00:04:21,733 --> 00:04:22,053 Speaker 2: right now. 94 00:04:22,933 --> 00:04:24,893 Speaker 3: Yea, that's right. And you know, it's like a lot 95 00:04:24,933 --> 00:04:26,373 Speaker 3: of things in life. You know, we've got a greatly 96 00:04:26,533 --> 00:04:28,213 Speaker 3: long list of things we need to kind of do 97 00:04:28,293 --> 00:04:30,013 Speaker 3: in our in our world, right, we just need to 98 00:04:30,013 --> 00:04:32,733 Speaker 3: make it important enough that well remember to actually do it. 99 00:04:32,853 --> 00:04:35,533 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, that's great advice. Thank you so much, Lisa. 100 00:04:35,813 --> 00:04:38,173 Speaker 2: That is Lisa Dudson. You can find her, of course 101 00:04:38,213 --> 00:04:40,453 Speaker 2: at akimen dot co dot nz. 102 00:04:41,453 --> 00:04:44,573 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 103 00:04:44,653 --> 00:04:47,453 Speaker 1: to News Talk z B from nine am Saturday, or 104 00:04:47,533 --> 00:04:49,453 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio