1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,693 Speaker 1: from News Talks That Be. 3 00:00:12,773 --> 00:00:15,733 Speaker 2: Catherine Reigns, our book reviewer, is here with her reads 4 00:00:15,773 --> 00:00:18,853 Speaker 2: to recommend this weekend. Hey Catherine, Hey Jack. We're going 5 00:00:18,933 --> 00:00:22,533 Speaker 2: to begin with a new book by Sam Dalrymple. It's 6 00:00:22,573 --> 00:00:25,653 Speaker 2: called Chattered Lands, and it's a history of modern South 7 00:00:25,813 --> 00:00:30,133 Speaker 2: Asia told through five different partitions. In that name, Dalrymple 8 00:00:30,173 --> 00:00:34,173 Speaker 2: will be very familiar to fans of history around India. 9 00:00:35,453 --> 00:00:38,533 Speaker 3: That's right, because his father, William writes a lot of 10 00:00:38,733 --> 00:00:42,893 Speaker 3: history around this area. And Sam's taken on the story 11 00:00:42,933 --> 00:00:46,653 Speaker 3: of the Indian Empire and how this single dominion becomes 12 00:00:46,773 --> 00:00:50,493 Speaker 3: twelve nations and how the maps you know, in boardrooms 13 00:00:50,493 --> 00:00:53,213 Speaker 3: and battlefields and politicians and kings and all of the 14 00:00:53,253 --> 00:00:56,413 Speaker 3: soldiers and all of the people that change this and 15 00:00:56,653 --> 00:00:59,333 Speaker 3: resulted in the formation of the twelve states that we 16 00:00:59,413 --> 00:01:03,493 Speaker 3: see today. And it does cover five partitions. It starts 17 00:01:03,493 --> 00:01:06,053 Speaker 3: in the British Raj and begins with Aiden and Burma 18 00:01:06,533 --> 00:01:08,933 Speaker 3: and then being separated from the Indian Empire, and then 19 00:01:09,013 --> 00:01:11,773 Speaker 3: ending up in the West and East now Bangladesh and 20 00:01:11,813 --> 00:01:15,613 Speaker 3: Pakistan's division. And it begins with the petition of Burma, 21 00:01:15,653 --> 00:01:17,933 Speaker 3: and that's sort of where the nationalism sort of rears 22 00:01:17,973 --> 00:01:22,013 Speaker 3: its sort of bloodthirsty head, I guess, and proceeds through 23 00:01:22,013 --> 00:01:24,773 Speaker 3: that partitioning of the Arabian Raj and then dealing with 24 00:01:24,773 --> 00:01:26,893 Speaker 3: the petition as we kind of know it now and 25 00:01:27,053 --> 00:01:29,853 Speaker 3: ending in nineteen seventy one, and you get lots of 26 00:01:30,093 --> 00:01:33,253 Speaker 3: narrative in here. Darwynp has gone through and interviews and 27 00:01:33,373 --> 00:01:36,973 Speaker 3: diaries and first hand accounts and really tries to sort 28 00:01:37,173 --> 00:01:42,053 Speaker 3: almost personalize that that narrative. And it's really violent what happens. 29 00:01:42,093 --> 00:01:45,133 Speaker 3: And there's really three figures I think that stand out. 30 00:01:45,173 --> 00:01:48,293 Speaker 3: There was Jena and mount Bountain and Patel and Gena Cuts, 31 00:01:48,293 --> 00:01:51,253 Speaker 3: this real tragic figure in his personal and political life. 32 00:01:51,333 --> 00:01:56,773 Speaker 3: And then there's Shadia Patel, who just was peirs to 33 00:01:56,853 --> 00:02:00,453 Speaker 3: actually be just an awful man. And then mount Batten, 34 00:02:00,453 --> 00:02:02,853 Speaker 3: who history has probably been kind to in this book 35 00:02:03,053 --> 00:02:08,053 Speaker 3: really isn't and how he divided the empire, and lots 36 00:02:08,053 --> 00:02:09,973 Speaker 3: of stuff that he did could have been avoided and 37 00:02:10,013 --> 00:02:12,933 Speaker 3: certainly less bloodshed, and you know, we're having dealt with 38 00:02:12,973 --> 00:02:15,853 Speaker 3: things with a little bit more foresight and empathy. And 39 00:02:15,893 --> 00:02:18,973 Speaker 3: it's really interesting the past and the regions and the boundaries. 40 00:02:19,013 --> 00:02:20,853 Speaker 3: And I have to admit this is not a subject 41 00:02:20,853 --> 00:02:23,293 Speaker 3: that I am well versed in, but I found it 42 00:02:23,373 --> 00:02:27,453 Speaker 3: fascinating and the research seems really outstanding, and the start 43 00:02:27,453 --> 00:02:30,293 Speaker 3: of writings similar to his dad's, you know, it's you know, 44 00:02:30,333 --> 00:02:33,013 Speaker 3: that narration and feels like you just kind of going 45 00:02:33,053 --> 00:02:35,573 Speaker 3: through It never feels like a dry history or reading 46 00:02:35,573 --> 00:02:36,973 Speaker 3: a textbook. It's fascinating. 47 00:02:37,053 --> 00:02:40,053 Speaker 2: Oh, very good. Okay, that's Shattered Lands by Sam Drymple. 48 00:02:40,413 --> 00:02:43,413 Speaker 2: Next up The Air Apparent by Rebecca Armitage. 49 00:02:43,813 --> 00:02:47,333 Speaker 3: So for something completely different. This novel uses some very 50 00:02:47,373 --> 00:02:50,893 Speaker 3: loose reference to some historical figures and it centers on 51 00:02:50,933 --> 00:02:54,333 Speaker 3: this girl, Leslie Villas, and she's built this life in Tasmania. 52 00:02:54,413 --> 00:02:57,573 Speaker 3: She's working as a trainee doctor and sharing a home 53 00:02:57,653 --> 00:02:59,573 Speaker 3: with her friends and sort of you know, living a 54 00:02:59,613 --> 00:03:03,333 Speaker 3: reasonably good life. But actually her brother, her twin brother, 55 00:03:03,613 --> 00:03:07,653 Speaker 3: is the heir to the British throne once her father passes, 56 00:03:08,413 --> 00:03:11,133 Speaker 3: and so while she's in the middle of a residency, 57 00:03:11,293 --> 00:03:14,413 Speaker 3: the real unthinkable happens and her father and brother are 58 00:03:14,693 --> 00:03:17,773 Speaker 3: killed in a tragic accident, and she finds herself returning 59 00:03:17,853 --> 00:03:20,573 Speaker 3: to England as the heir of the throne, and her 60 00:03:20,573 --> 00:03:23,013 Speaker 3: grandmother gives her twelve months to decide whether she should 61 00:03:23,053 --> 00:03:25,933 Speaker 3: take the crown or return to her life. And there's 62 00:03:25,973 --> 00:03:28,293 Speaker 3: all sorts of great characters in here. There's an uncle 63 00:03:28,293 --> 00:03:30,573 Speaker 3: who's desperate to take over and will do anything. There's 64 00:03:30,613 --> 00:03:33,093 Speaker 3: a sister in law with a devastating secret, and of 65 00:03:33,133 --> 00:03:36,813 Speaker 3: course a powalace full of treachery and rumor. And there's 66 00:03:36,853 --> 00:03:41,213 Speaker 3: lots of family drama and mystery and characters and lots 67 00:03:41,253 --> 00:03:43,933 Speaker 3: of the stories told with the kind of flashbacks and times, 68 00:03:43,933 --> 00:03:47,373 Speaker 3: and it's a really good tale. And it's got wit 69 00:03:47,613 --> 00:03:50,653 Speaker 3: and humor and the spectacle of the monarchy and this 70 00:03:50,773 --> 00:03:54,293 Speaker 3: alternate British royal family where at least half the members 71 00:03:54,933 --> 00:03:57,133 Speaker 3: you could probably pack as to who their real life 72 00:03:57,133 --> 00:04:00,573 Speaker 3: counterpart will be. And I didn't think. I went into 73 00:04:00,573 --> 00:04:03,533 Speaker 3: this with kind of like, oh yeah, okay, I'm not 74 00:04:03,573 --> 00:04:06,853 Speaker 3: sure about this, and I was surprisingly hooked by novel 75 00:04:07,133 --> 00:04:10,773 Speaker 3: and a writing's brilliant and interesting and this great human story. 76 00:04:11,053 --> 00:04:12,093 Speaker 3: It's well worth a read. 77 00:04:12,253 --> 00:04:14,733 Speaker 2: Oh very good. Okay. So that's the Heir Apparent by 78 00:04:14,773 --> 00:04:19,173 Speaker 2: Rebecca Armitage Catherine's first book, Shattered Lands by Sam d Rymple, 79 00:04:19,333 --> 00:04:21,733 Speaker 2: Like she interviewed William d Rymple his father a few 80 00:04:21,733 --> 00:04:24,453 Speaker 2: weeks ago. You can see that on YouTube. It's like, 81 00:04:24,773 --> 00:04:27,133 Speaker 2: William d Rymple is just such an amazing communicator. So 82 00:04:27,213 --> 00:04:30,333 Speaker 2: if Sam is anything like his old man, I'm sure 83 00:04:30,733 --> 00:04:33,933 Speaker 2: that Shattered Lands is an amazing, amazing book. As well 84 00:04:33,973 --> 00:04:35,693 Speaker 2: as as well as writing, of course, he hosts the 85 00:04:35,693 --> 00:04:38,173 Speaker 2: Empire podcast, which has to be one of my all 86 00:04:38,213 --> 00:04:39,133 Speaker 2: time favorites. 87 00:04:40,053 --> 00:04:43,173 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 88 00:04:43,253 --> 00:04:46,413 Speaker 1: to News Talks B from nine am Saturday, or follow 89 00:04:46,493 --> 00:04:48,053 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio