1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from News Talks at B. 3 00:00:13,613 --> 00:00:14,093 Speaker 2: No. 4 00:00:14,093 --> 00:00:29,813 Speaker 3: No, that is Harry Styles. 5 00:00:29,973 --> 00:00:32,573 Speaker 2: His fans have been patient. They've been waiting one thousand, 6 00:00:32,653 --> 00:00:35,853 Speaker 2: three hundred and thirty six days, but the wait is 7 00:00:35,893 --> 00:00:39,733 Speaker 2: finally over. Harry's announced he is returning to music with 8 00:00:39,773 --> 00:00:44,293 Speaker 2: his fourth album. Intriguingly, it is called Kiss all the 9 00:00:44,373 --> 00:00:49,853 Speaker 2: Time Disco Occasionally, So yeah, don't really know what to 10 00:00:49,853 --> 00:00:52,173 Speaker 2: read into that. Anyway, It drops on March six, so 11 00:00:52,173 --> 00:00:53,453 Speaker 2: we're going to be hearing a whole lot of Harry 12 00:00:53,493 --> 00:00:55,813 Speaker 2: Styles over the next couple of months. Twenty one to 13 00:00:55,813 --> 00:00:57,453 Speaker 2: ten on News Talks, he'd be our film review of 14 00:00:57,493 --> 00:01:00,053 Speaker 2: Francesca Rudkin is here with us this morning. Good morning, 15 00:01:00,493 --> 00:01:05,813 Speaker 2: good morning year. You've just been slaving away, on slaving away. 16 00:01:05,893 --> 00:01:07,853 Speaker 2: Some of us take a nice summer's break. Some of 17 00:01:07,933 --> 00:01:10,053 Speaker 2: us just know I had a little break. 18 00:01:09,813 --> 00:01:11,093 Speaker 4: And I'm going to take another one. 19 00:01:11,133 --> 00:01:14,173 Speaker 2: Don't you all worry. I'm well looked after two films 20 00:01:14,173 --> 00:01:16,733 Speaker 2: for us this morning, quite different ones. Let's begin with 21 00:01:16,813 --> 00:01:21,933 Speaker 2: a little listen to Hamnet. He's got more inside of 22 00:01:22,013 --> 00:01:24,453 Speaker 2: him than any man I've had. Mack, who are you 23 00:01:24,573 --> 00:01:26,653 Speaker 2: looking for? William Shakespeare. 24 00:01:29,173 --> 00:01:31,053 Speaker 3: I have no talent to waiting. 25 00:01:34,613 --> 00:01:34,773 Speaker 1: Right. 26 00:01:34,813 --> 00:01:37,373 Speaker 2: Oh, this is starring Jesse Buckley and all mess scale 27 00:01:37,373 --> 00:01:38,333 Speaker 2: tell us about Hamnet. 28 00:01:38,373 --> 00:01:39,973 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people will have heard the 29 00:01:40,053 --> 00:01:42,373 Speaker 4: name of this film. It's just been released in New Zealand. 30 00:01:42,373 --> 00:01:45,373 Speaker 4: It was nominated for six Golden Globes, one Best Performance 31 00:01:45,373 --> 00:01:48,573 Speaker 4: by a Female Actor and Emotion Picture Drama for Jesse Buckley, 32 00:01:48,613 --> 00:01:53,013 Speaker 4: and also Best Motion Picture Drama. I wasn't hugely surprised 33 00:01:53,093 --> 00:01:55,333 Speaker 4: by that. She is absolutely stunning in this film and 34 00:01:55,373 --> 00:02:01,093 Speaker 4: it is a really exquisite film. Chloe Jowell is the director. 35 00:02:01,213 --> 00:02:02,453 Speaker 4: She did no Medland. 36 00:02:02,453 --> 00:02:03,453 Speaker 2: I don't know a friend of the show. 37 00:02:05,093 --> 00:02:08,253 Speaker 4: It's an adaptation of Meggie O'Farrell's twenty twenty novel and 38 00:02:08,293 --> 00:02:10,773 Speaker 4: it tells the story of William Shakespeare's family and impact 39 00:02:10,853 --> 00:02:13,653 Speaker 4: on them of the loss of a child and what 40 00:02:13,653 --> 00:02:16,413 Speaker 4: they've kind of done here is It's part truth but 41 00:02:16,653 --> 00:02:24,573 Speaker 4: largely imagined. So what Jao and O'Farrell do is imagine 42 00:02:24,653 --> 00:02:30,013 Speaker 4: that the writing of the play Hamlet was away for 43 00:02:30,133 --> 00:02:32,773 Speaker 4: Shakespeare to deal with his grief of the loss of 44 00:02:32,853 --> 00:02:37,533 Speaker 4: his son. But actually the film is more focused on 45 00:02:37,613 --> 00:02:40,413 Speaker 4: Shakespeare's wife, Agnes Hathaway and it does start as a 46 00:02:40,453 --> 00:02:42,893 Speaker 4: love story before we kind of get to this tragedy. 47 00:02:44,173 --> 00:02:47,493 Speaker 4: It is a story of love and loss and motherhood 48 00:02:48,093 --> 00:02:54,333 Speaker 4: and art and the need for storytelling in order for 49 00:02:54,453 --> 00:02:58,133 Speaker 4: us to grieve and hold ourselves together in difficult times, 50 00:02:58,253 --> 00:03:03,973 Speaker 4: to process and understand life. I think Jao is an 51 00:03:04,013 --> 00:03:08,613 Speaker 4: absolutely remarkable director. I think think she's a very compassionate observer. 52 00:03:09,053 --> 00:03:11,093 Speaker 4: Is the way I would kind of describe what she 53 00:03:11,093 --> 00:03:13,213 Speaker 4: always gives us. She manages to really get to the 54 00:03:13,253 --> 00:03:17,053 Speaker 4: heart of what a character is experiencing and feeling. And 55 00:03:17,173 --> 00:03:19,093 Speaker 4: you know, we start, as I said, with this love story, 56 00:03:19,133 --> 00:03:21,413 Speaker 4: and then we have this tragedy and we have this grief, 57 00:03:21,413 --> 00:03:25,493 Speaker 4: and this film just builds and builds to a point 58 00:03:25,493 --> 00:03:30,573 Speaker 4: where there's this sort of explosive emotional ending and it's 59 00:03:30,613 --> 00:03:33,293 Speaker 4: pretty much impossible not to get wrapped up in it. 60 00:03:33,293 --> 00:03:36,133 Speaker 4: It really is explisit. She's Everything she does is considered. 61 00:03:36,333 --> 00:03:39,933 Speaker 4: The cinematography is considered, the costumes, the art direction. We 62 00:03:40,053 --> 00:03:42,333 Speaker 4: felt like she has a very naturalistic take. You can 63 00:03:42,333 --> 00:03:44,293 Speaker 4: see the dirt under their nails, you know. 64 00:03:44,373 --> 00:03:45,413 Speaker 2: Get you get. 65 00:03:45,573 --> 00:03:47,613 Speaker 4: She tries to present you with this truth that at 66 00:03:47,613 --> 00:03:50,013 Speaker 4: the same time she'll then present you with something extremely 67 00:03:50,053 --> 00:03:51,333 Speaker 4: poetic as well. I loved it. 68 00:03:52,093 --> 00:03:54,973 Speaker 2: Okay cool. So that is Hamnet that is showing in 69 00:03:55,093 --> 00:03:59,733 Speaker 2: cinemas at the moment. Next up something completely different, a documentary. 70 00:03:59,813 --> 00:04:04,413 Speaker 2: This is Anchor Me, the Don McGlashan story. Please Welcome 71 00:04:04,413 --> 00:04:07,613 Speaker 2: to the stage, Oil Mgusha a bit lost for words, 72 00:04:07,693 --> 00:04:08,773 Speaker 2: which doesn't happen. 73 00:04:08,613 --> 00:04:11,893 Speaker 3: Very often him Manion Road is family. 74 00:04:12,973 --> 00:04:13,493 Speaker 2: Under it. 75 00:04:15,013 --> 00:04:19,373 Speaker 3: He is a master of putting a lyric together. Come 76 00:04:19,533 --> 00:04:22,293 Speaker 3: from a man play. 77 00:04:22,533 --> 00:04:24,733 Speaker 2: And another friend of the show of course, dom Mglass. 78 00:04:25,533 --> 00:04:28,093 Speaker 4: Yes, and look, this is a film by documentary maker 79 00:04:28,133 --> 00:04:30,413 Speaker 4: Shirley Horricks, and she's done a really fabulous job. But 80 00:04:30,453 --> 00:04:31,973 Speaker 4: I think the first thing that she did that's really 81 00:04:32,013 --> 00:04:34,013 Speaker 4: impressive is actually get Don to agree to be the 82 00:04:34,013 --> 00:04:37,453 Speaker 4: subject of the documentary because he loves to talk about songwriting. 83 00:04:37,493 --> 00:04:39,213 Speaker 4: He loves to talk about music and things, but he's 84 00:04:39,213 --> 00:04:41,733 Speaker 4: not actually really he doesn't really enjoy talking about himself. 85 00:04:41,733 --> 00:04:45,453 Speaker 4: He's a humble kiwi in that kind of respect. So 86 00:04:46,373 --> 00:04:48,453 Speaker 4: that's the other great reason that she actually got the 87 00:04:48,453 --> 00:04:50,093 Speaker 4: film made is that you learn so much about him, 88 00:04:50,293 --> 00:04:52,333 Speaker 4: and he does talk about himself and his family and 89 00:04:53,053 --> 00:04:55,333 Speaker 4: his love of music and sort of a lot more. 90 00:04:55,413 --> 00:04:57,893 Speaker 4: You hear a lot more about his life and things, 91 00:04:57,893 --> 00:05:02,573 Speaker 4: which kind of, you know, helps you sort of understand 92 00:05:02,613 --> 00:05:07,453 Speaker 4: this portrait of a very unique creative personality. I think 93 00:05:07,533 --> 00:05:11,613 Speaker 4: the film documents a really significant period of music and 94 00:05:11,653 --> 00:05:14,973 Speaker 4: culture in New Zealand's history. And for me, you know, 95 00:05:16,573 --> 00:05:19,013 Speaker 4: I was a bit too young for some of his 96 00:05:19,253 --> 00:05:22,213 Speaker 4: younger bands that he was involved in, but he's very 97 00:05:22,293 --> 00:05:25,173 Speaker 4: much part of sort of the musical landscape for me. 98 00:05:25,253 --> 00:05:28,613 Speaker 4: So I just loved watching this film and and going 99 00:05:28,653 --> 00:05:30,453 Speaker 4: on this ride, not not just the music, with the 100 00:05:30,453 --> 00:05:34,173 Speaker 4: fashion and the times, everything it all, it all comes 101 00:05:34,173 --> 00:05:38,893 Speaker 4: together together so beautifully. And he has had an extraordinary life, 102 00:05:38,933 --> 00:05:42,813 Speaker 4: and he's been adventurous and brave, and it's been an 103 00:05:42,813 --> 00:05:45,613 Speaker 4: interesting and fulfilling and rewarding life. And and I learned 104 00:05:45,613 --> 00:05:47,733 Speaker 4: a lot more. I thought I kind of understood everything 105 00:05:47,773 --> 00:05:49,613 Speaker 4: he'd been involved in as a solo artist with his 106 00:05:49,653 --> 00:05:52,213 Speaker 4: film work with it, but I didn't quite realize how, 107 00:05:52,453 --> 00:05:55,013 Speaker 4: you know, how many instruments he could play. It really 108 00:05:55,053 --> 00:05:55,573 Speaker 4: is fabulous. 109 00:05:55,893 --> 00:06:00,493 Speaker 2: He only playing something like and I'm saying this with 110 00:06:00,573 --> 00:06:03,173 Speaker 2: the context being that I grew up as a trombone player, 111 00:06:03,213 --> 00:06:05,013 Speaker 2: so I just know that he did lots of percussion. 112 00:06:05,613 --> 00:06:08,653 Speaker 2: Was something like super uncool like a euphonium or a 113 00:06:09,053 --> 00:06:10,213 Speaker 2: French horn or something like that. 114 00:06:10,493 --> 00:06:13,093 Speaker 4: Was yeah, yeah, but this very little you can't play. 115 00:06:13,013 --> 00:06:16,413 Speaker 2: No, no, it's amazing and it gives him I mean 116 00:06:16,453 --> 00:06:18,533 Speaker 2: you can actually hear it in the music himself. 117 00:06:18,693 --> 00:06:20,133 Speaker 4: Do you feel like he can pick something up and 118 00:06:20,173 --> 00:06:24,493 Speaker 4: he can work it out and it's just you know, yeah. 119 00:06:24,333 --> 00:06:26,213 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, very good. I'm looking forward to seeing this, 120 00:06:26,333 --> 00:06:28,813 Speaker 2: really looking forward to seeing this. So that is anchor 121 00:06:28,893 --> 00:06:31,693 Speaker 2: me the Don McGlashan story that is showing in select 122 00:06:31,733 --> 00:06:34,653 Speaker 2: cinemas Francis because first film was Hamnet. That's showing all 123 00:06:34,653 --> 00:06:37,213 Speaker 2: over the place, and all the deeps for those movies 124 00:06:37,373 --> 00:06:38,693 Speaker 2: will be up on the News Talks. 125 00:06:38,693 --> 00:06:42,293 Speaker 1: He'd be website for more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. 126 00:06:42,493 --> 00:06:45,693 Speaker 1: Listen live to News Talks. He'd be from nine am Saturday, 127 00:06:45,893 --> 00:06:47,973 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.