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Speaker 2: Hello, Halcome to Matt and Tyler Full Show Podcast number

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Speaker 2: one six eight for Thursday, the twenty fourth of July

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Thanks. Got emotional on the show at

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Speaker 2: You'll be a fantastic far pretty pretty emotional around the

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Speaker 3: Wasn't Oh the Foreign buyers ban. Yeah, I mean that

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Speaker 3: that was a good check. That was a good chat.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon. Do you welcome into Thursday show. Awesome

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Speaker 3: to have your company as always, Get a met.

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Speaker 2: Get a Tyler good. Everyone got a fantastic show for you.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely after three o'clock. What are the things you need

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Speaker 2: This is going to be great, Yeah, because I am

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Speaker 2: practical driving tests and I just thought I've ticked off

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Speaker 2: I've also got his teeth fixed with his braces. Spent

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Speaker 3: He is, too good. That is after three o'clock, looking

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Speaker 3: forward to your thoughts on that. Then after two o'clock.

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Speaker 3: How much do you monitor your sleep? The world of

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Speaker 3: sleep apps has absolutely exploded in recent years. Apple Watch, Garment, Whoop,

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Speaker 3: dozens of others. Studied last year's show, just over thirty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and everyone's talking about them. In New Zealand's it

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Speaker 2: used to be that you got eight hours sleep. You've

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Speaker 2: thinking how much of that was deep sleep, how much

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Speaker 2: we just want to know if that's making you sleep better?

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Speaker 2: Is are the apps making your life better? You're feeling

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Speaker 3: Exactly? I think that's a bit of me. But that

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Speaker 3: way potentially for wealthy foreign investors to buy high value

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean the question is should foreigners be allowed

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Speaker 3: New Zealand's other Bees International Reality Reality Realty in Wellington.

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Speaker 2: Supplementary question why is it called real estate? Is it

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Speaker 2: Why is it called real estate? I'm going to look

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon. So we are talking about the conversations

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Speaker 2: I was going to tell you why real estate is

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Speaker 2: We'll get to the very basic of the situation then.

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Speaker 6: Well, effectively there's a blanket ban. So even if we're

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Speaker 6: when those people invest those sums in this country, they're

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Speaker 6: Well, there's been discussions around sort of I think two

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Speaker 6: But those sort of barriers or lines in the sun,

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Speaker 6: So that are in ones of why why wrap and

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Speaker 6: then that impacts of regions at what level are the

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Speaker 2: What are the ramifications? Because this is of course the

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Speaker 6: Look, I mean I think the wholesale ban frankly was

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Speaker 6: think was about about a one hundred thousand sales. We're

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Speaker 6: some other drivers that were far more significant to inflating

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Speaker 6: And how about for capital gains tax? You know, just

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Speaker 6: also understand some politicians have been arguing that we'll hold on.

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Speaker 6: You know, the big bad foreigners are going to come

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Speaker 6: and we're going to have ghost towns or ghost villages. Look,

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Speaker 6: there's solutions to every problem.

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Speaker 6: You can put a vacancy tax on and indeed in

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Speaker 6: you could say to local councils, of homes that are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but doesn't it make sense though, Glenn that I

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Speaker 3: hear what you're saying that it made no sense to

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Speaker 3: arguably a lot of that was a political move that

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Speaker 3: it was popular at the time. But is there not

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Speaker 3: still the argument at the first first home buyer market

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Speaker 3: that when people young New Zealanders are trying to get

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Speaker 3: and there is always that argument that you create more

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Speaker 3: competition by allowing people who do not live in this

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Speaker 6: No, no, hundred percent. Look, I think there should be conditions.

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Speaker 6: I don't think you know, any Joe blogs from across

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Speaker 6: You know, they were unable to buy that. You know,

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Speaker 6: I think that's great. You know, five to ten million

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Speaker 2: Could you see the advantage of a CAP. But you

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Speaker 6: You know, somebody's going to bite off their arm.

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Speaker 6: I think it's well publicized that, you know, in various

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Speaker 10: Now?

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Speaker 6: If they have to sit in line and wait six

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Speaker 8: So there's a.

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Speaker 6: Plethora of people highly skilled. You went to United Kingdom,

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Speaker 3: Glenn, really great to get your expertise on this. Thanks

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Speaker 6: Really thanks your time.

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Speaker 3: That is Glenn Jones, Managing director of Sotheby's International in Wellington.

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Speaker 2: And to answer the question that I was going to

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Speaker 2: In the legal context, it comes to signify a moveable

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Speaker 3: I love that stuff. Yeah, there's good. And I promise

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Speaker 2: Right, So this text has said, are you stupid? Everyone

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Speaker 2: knows its origins? That's really to people. Really, are you

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Speaker 2: You know anyway? Really, really, this person was just walking

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Speaker 3: Were they yahn?

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Speaker 5: Were you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Mark? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call?

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Speaker 3: Do you think some changes need to be made to

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Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast.

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Speaker 11: We've got the much anticipated Homelessness and Science report, Chris Bishops,

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Speaker 12: We know that we have a problem with rough sleeping.

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Speaker 11: The opposition is going to milk this and they're going

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Speaker 2: People end up in cars.

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Speaker 1: This is on you lot of.

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Speaker 12: Emergency housing with the arts, and I've got it to

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Speaker 13: So money is not necessarily the answer.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to here. It's twenty five past one

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Speaker 3: and we're talking about the foreign buyer ban. Consultation is

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Speaker 3: Minister Christopher Luxon has hed. Conversations are ongoing about allowing

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Speaker 3: So keen to get your thoughts on that, Oh, eight

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Speaker 3: We're getting plenty of texts coming through on nine to

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Speaker 2: This guy wants New Zealander to have unaffordable housing by

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Speaker 2: bringing in more overseas buyers to replace those New Zealanders

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Speaker 2: leaving because there was no hope of buying already over

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a fair point.

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Speaker 2: The current speaker thinks we have skill shortages, yet many

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess there's definitely we definitely need more doctors, teachers, nurses.

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Speaker 3: Right, absolutely. Yeah. And to Glenn Jones's argument from souther

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Speaker 3: that idea of the Golden Visa, when you allow people

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Speaker 3: I do agree that that does feel a bit paradoxical.

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Speaker 2: Paradoxical talk about invested interest by Glenn and allowing foreign

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Speaker 2: and them come in anyway? But I mean, don't we

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Speaker 3: More successful attracting investment.

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Speaker 2: Don't we need that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we certainly do need.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's a level that we don't need it,

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Speaker 2: do need it. Glenn, this is a this is a

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Speaker 2: different Glenn, but welcome to the show. Glenn. Your thoughts

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Speaker 14: Yeah, well I think there should be no there's no rentals,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you don't worry that that will price. You know,

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Speaker 14: No, well they just need to work harder and safe harder.

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Speaker 14: Thinks twenty years ago.

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Speaker 15: I had nothing and I worked hard, worked hard, gave

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Speaker 15: now I'm mortgatary only my own house. Yeah, I'm in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you need.

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Speaker 3: Get rid of it all together, bring them in and

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Speaker 3: there should be no foreign buyer band. We need the money,

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Speaker 3: we need the investment, we need wealthy individuals all together.

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Speaker 14: But it's more like, if you know, if you just

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Speaker 14: I said, I'm not I'm not singing at them as

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Speaker 14: more meaning if you're coming here on a work pleaser

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Speaker 14: people that are looking at buying a place that they

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Speaker 15: Yeah, have a thing that if they're not going to

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Speaker 14: You can put things on like that.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, where are you working? Glynn?

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Speaker 14: I sort of reach arm mow and back mow all

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Speaker 15: Tractor?

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Speaker 3: Great New Zealander.

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Speaker 2: I'm always curious what's going on in the background. Good

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Speaker 2: on you for getting your place in You're great New

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Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

440
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Speaker 3: to call love to hear your thoughts about changes to

441
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Speaker 3: the foreign buyer ban. Doesn't make sense to get rid

442
00:20:17,373 --> 00:20:19,493
Speaker 3: of it all together? Or should there be a camp

443
00:20:19,533 --> 00:20:22,333
Speaker 3: If you've got two three four million dollars and you

444
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Speaker 3: bring it into the country, well.

445
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Speaker 2: The status says here, how many keys are in the

446
00:20:26,333 --> 00:20:28,773
Speaker 2: market for a five million dollar house? Very few? In fact,

447
00:20:28,773 --> 00:20:32,093
Speaker 2: I think there was only two houses over five million

448
00:20:32,133 --> 00:20:35,013
Speaker 2: dollars on the market in Wellington as of right now.

449
00:20:35,573 --> 00:20:37,333
Speaker 2: So that the argument for that, though is if you

450
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Speaker 2: make it over five million dollars, then what are people

451
00:20:40,293 --> 00:20:42,933
Speaker 2: going to do? They're only buying houses in Auckland, a

452
00:20:43,133 --> 00:20:45,293
Speaker 2: very few houses in Auckland, and a very few houses

453
00:20:45,333 --> 00:20:47,572
Speaker 2: and a lot of houses in Queenstown. Yeah yeah, so

454
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Speaker 2: and that might not be where we want people to

455
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Speaker 2: be moving.

456
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Speaker 3: That's a good point.

457
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Speaker 2: We may we may may not say. They might unintended

458
00:20:54,933 --> 00:20:57,853
Speaker 2: consequences unless they're so desperate to come to New Zealand

459
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Speaker 2: that they pay five million dollars for a two million

460
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Speaker 2: dollar house.

461
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Speaker 3: Maybe I wait, hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

462
00:21:02,853 --> 00:21:05,293
Speaker 3: to call. Love your thoughts on this. Should we make

463
00:21:05,333 --> 00:21:07,413
Speaker 3: some changes to the foreign buyer ban let them in?

464
00:21:07,493 --> 00:21:09,533
Speaker 3: Do we need that investments? Or is it good the

465
00:21:09,613 --> 00:21:11,693
Speaker 3: way it is? Headlines with railing coming up.

466
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Speaker 4: Us talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxes. It's

467
00:21:17,893 --> 00:21:21,333
Speaker 4: no trouble with a blue bubble. Westpak is warning people

468
00:21:21,373 --> 00:21:25,093
Speaker 4: to read the fine print for online purchases because hidden

469
00:21:25,173 --> 00:21:29,133
Speaker 4: subscription costs set key with back twenty five million dollars

470
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Speaker 4: a year. It says it's protected twenty thousand customers from

471
00:21:33,333 --> 00:21:38,493
Speaker 4: subscription traps in the past three months. The government's throwing

472
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Speaker 4: out removable VATE battery requirements meant to protect against fires

473
00:21:43,013 --> 00:21:48,733
Speaker 4: from September after Vate franchise shosher threatened legal action. Health

474
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Speaker 4: New Zealand's aiming to avert twenty four hour strike action

475
00:21:51,893 --> 00:21:55,013
Speaker 4: by nurses planned for next week are meeting scheduled with

476
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Speaker 4: the New Zealand Nurses Organization on Monday. The government's putting

477
00:21:59,373 --> 00:22:03,333
Speaker 4: thirty million dollars into our three hundred mainly Catholic former

478
00:22:03,413 --> 00:22:07,893
Speaker 4: private schools now converted to the state network while retaining

479
00:22:07,973 --> 00:22:12,373
Speaker 4: some characteristics. Police say the theft of more than sixty

480
00:22:12,453 --> 00:22:15,893
Speaker 4: twelve week old dairy calves and Danny verk yesterday is

481
00:22:15,973 --> 00:22:18,813
Speaker 4: unusual for this time of year. Are appealing to the

482
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Speaker 4: public for CCTV or dash cam footage. Liam Napier looks

483
00:22:23,693 --> 00:22:26,413
Speaker 4: at the best player, the biggest concern and where the

484
00:22:26,453 --> 00:22:29,293
Speaker 4: All Blacks missed a trick after their first series win

485
00:22:29,493 --> 00:22:31,693
Speaker 4: of the season. You can see the full column. It

486
00:22:31,813 --> 00:22:35,253
Speaker 4: ends at Herald Premium Manar to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

487
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen. We are talking about the

488
00:22:37,773 --> 00:22:40,893
Speaker 3: foreign buyer band. There is consultation underway to make some

489
00:22:40,933 --> 00:22:44,013
Speaker 3: tweaks or changes too that particular policy that came into

490
00:22:44,053 --> 00:22:47,013
Speaker 3: effect in twenty eighteen. It's expected later this the year.

491
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Speaker 3: So can you get your thoughts should it change and

492
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Speaker 3: if it should change, what should be the cap, What

493
00:22:51,893 --> 00:22:54,893
Speaker 3: should the cat be in terms of the price of

494
00:22:54,893 --> 00:22:56,213
Speaker 3: the houses that we sell to foreign.

495
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Speaker 2: Ess or should there be other conditions on foreign buyers

496
00:23:00,573 --> 00:23:04,333
Speaker 2: such as this. Graham suggests foreign buyers should have to

497
00:23:04,373 --> 00:23:07,653
Speaker 2: build new houses, leaving the existing stock for locals to purchase.

498
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Speaker 3: Not a bad idea. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's

499
00:23:10,933 --> 00:23:13,453
Speaker 3: fishocks in it, but just on the surface level, because

500
00:23:13,453 --> 00:23:14,493
Speaker 3: that creates more stock.

501
00:23:14,893 --> 00:23:16,973
Speaker 2: So do they have to build a new house or

502
00:23:16,973 --> 00:23:20,253
Speaker 2: they have to buy a house that's been recently built?

503
00:23:20,733 --> 00:23:20,933
Speaker 5: You know?

504
00:23:21,373 --> 00:23:23,333
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, so it's be the

505
00:23:23,373 --> 00:23:25,013
Speaker 2: first owner of a house.

506
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Speaker 3: I mean that's a good point. That's the fishock, right,

507
00:23:28,493 --> 00:23:30,813
Speaker 3: is that if the house, you know, like a Gj's,

508
00:23:31,093 --> 00:23:32,773
Speaker 3: they've got the what do they call them, the two

509
00:23:32,853 --> 00:23:35,173
Speaker 3: key homes? Yeah, I suppose that would qualify. But that's

510
00:23:35,173 --> 00:23:37,013
Speaker 3: a home that's already been built and waiting for somebody

511
00:23:37,053 --> 00:23:37,453
Speaker 3: to buy it.

512
00:23:38,013 --> 00:23:41,533
Speaker 2: Yeah. But I mean so you just would that include

513
00:23:41,573 --> 00:23:43,813
Speaker 2: bowling another house and then building a new house would

514
00:23:43,893 --> 00:23:45,173
Speaker 2: have to be a strictly new house.

515
00:23:45,213 --> 00:23:47,253
Speaker 3: There's the fishocks I'm talking about. Yeah. Oh eight one

516
00:23:47,293 --> 00:23:48,213
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighties and.

517
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Speaker 2: Number to call, Dee, Welcome to the show. Your thoughts

518
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Speaker 2: on this?

519
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Speaker 8: Okay?

520
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Speaker 16: Well, the immigrants in these the three levels of quick

521
00:23:58,493 --> 00:24:01,413
Speaker 16: entry into New Zealand, which is I think it's three

522
00:24:01,493 --> 00:24:04,893
Speaker 16: hundred thousand a million, and I think it's ten million

523
00:24:05,293 --> 00:24:09,253
Speaker 16: for getting the Golden visa or whatever fast the citizenship.

524
00:24:10,093 --> 00:24:11,573
Speaker 16: Are you going to put your money in a bank

525
00:24:11,773 --> 00:24:14,253
Speaker 16: at two percent return or you're going to put in

526
00:24:14,413 --> 00:24:17,813
Speaker 16: property which is a nine percent or two You want

527
00:24:17,853 --> 00:24:20,053
Speaker 16: the money to come into the country, they've got to

528
00:24:20,053 --> 00:24:23,013
Speaker 16: come in at a certain with a certain amount of money,

529
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Speaker 16: which they've obviously had to pay tax on and de

530
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Speaker 16: paer and as they're coming across the border, they're going

531
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Speaker 16: to want to put it into something that they can

532
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Speaker 16: sell later on and gain a return on. The problem

533
00:24:34,453 --> 00:24:36,292
Speaker 16: was that is what you leaned out with. Is what

534
00:24:36,333 --> 00:24:39,653
Speaker 16: happened back in the eighties and nineties, down and the like,

535
00:24:39,733 --> 00:24:44,373
Speaker 16: the how and what have you were really accelerated the

536
00:24:44,413 --> 00:24:48,213
Speaker 16: price of house. The house price increase because there are

537
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Speaker 16: so many people in the market trying to buy as

538
00:24:50,653 --> 00:24:53,813
Speaker 16: a game stock. That last call is suggested that they

539
00:24:53,853 --> 00:24:57,133
Speaker 16: have to build or buy brand new a house. That

540
00:24:57,253 --> 00:24:59,733
Speaker 16: makes sense, that would be a way around it. But

541
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Speaker 16: if you want people to can bring money into the

542
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Speaker 16: country and invest in the country, especially on that it

543
00:25:04,693 --> 00:25:08,733
Speaker 16: is basically instantaneous. You're welcome to New Zealand. Yeah, the

544
00:25:08,773 --> 00:25:13,453
Speaker 16: Golden eder they go on miss into something and there's

545
00:25:13,453 --> 00:25:14,853
Speaker 16: no way you're going to put it in the bank.

546
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Speaker 16: It's bugger will return or run the risk of running

547
00:25:18,213 --> 00:25:19,292
Speaker 16: it on the stock exchange.

548
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Speaker 2: It's interesting thing. Statistics always will always mess things up,

549
00:25:23,173 --> 00:25:24,413
Speaker 2: don't they when you look into them a little bit.

550
00:25:24,453 --> 00:25:27,213
Speaker 2: So if you say two point seven as you know,

551
00:25:28,253 --> 00:25:32,493
Speaker 2: call it from Suisby said two point seven percent of

552
00:25:32,533 --> 00:25:34,292
Speaker 2: the market at the peak was foreign bias. But it's

553
00:25:34,293 --> 00:25:36,373
Speaker 2: all focused in one area, isn't it. That's what happens,

554
00:25:36,493 --> 00:25:39,253
Speaker 2: So that two point seven percent is focused in central

555
00:25:39,253 --> 00:25:42,493
Speaker 2: Auckland or in sid Into you know, eastern Auckland in

556
00:25:42,533 --> 00:25:45,173
Speaker 2: that case. So it's it's not as simple as two

557
00:25:45,213 --> 00:25:47,053
Speaker 2: point seven percent across the country because not a whole

558
00:25:47,093 --> 00:25:50,053
Speaker 2: lot of people are going sadly to live in you

559
00:25:50,053 --> 00:25:51,973
Speaker 2: know my second home city of and Vericago.

560
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Speaker 16: Well that way, that's way Wonka, Queenstown or all of

561
00:25:57,573 --> 00:26:01,293
Speaker 16: those areas. Their price health prices are so damned high.

562
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Speaker 16: It is because of foreign investments. The people coming over

563
00:26:03,973 --> 00:26:06,773
Speaker 16: here by the holiday back and then all of the

564
00:26:06,813 --> 00:26:09,493
Speaker 16: stock has gone. So if they have to build you

565
00:26:09,813 --> 00:26:13,053
Speaker 16: or buying you by bringing you off the box because

566
00:26:13,093 --> 00:26:16,653
Speaker 16: on their way in the border within six weeks or

567
00:26:16,653 --> 00:26:20,013
Speaker 16: whatever they have commenced that that does make a little

568
00:26:20,013 --> 00:26:21,853
Speaker 16: bit of sense because you're not going to see people

569
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Speaker 16: come to New Zealand and invest then put it in

570
00:26:24,573 --> 00:26:26,213
Speaker 16: the bank, put the money in the said they have

571
00:26:26,373 --> 00:26:26,973
Speaker 16: to bring in.

572
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, good call, Steve. And just to your point, mat,

573
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Speaker 3: I've just looked up those figures and your bang on.

574
00:26:31,453 --> 00:26:33,573
Speaker 3: So when this came into effect in twenty eighteen in

575
00:26:33,693 --> 00:26:38,053
Speaker 3: Auckland purchases, foreign purchases in places like Wadamater fell from

576
00:26:38,093 --> 00:26:40,853
Speaker 3: twenty two percent of the market to around six percent

577
00:26:40,853 --> 00:26:44,532
Speaker 3: of sales. In Queenstown it saw that percentage full from

578
00:26:44,613 --> 00:26:47,133
Speaker 3: nine point seven percent that was foreign buyers down to

579
00:26:47,173 --> 00:26:49,533
Speaker 3: two point eight percent. So that's where it's hitting. Overall.

580
00:26:49,573 --> 00:26:51,973
Speaker 3: You're quite right, it fell from two point three percent

581
00:26:52,053 --> 00:26:54,533
Speaker 3: to just zero point five percent, but in those hot

582
00:26:54,533 --> 00:27:00,173
Speaker 3: spots it had a massive impact. Steve. Thank you very

583
00:27:00,253 --> 00:27:02,573
Speaker 3: much for your thoughts. Really appreciate it. I bought Steve,

584
00:27:02,613 --> 00:27:04,453
Speaker 3: that's for enough. I bought a lot of people.

585
00:27:04,613 --> 00:27:06,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, well, I think what you did there

586
00:27:06,093 --> 00:27:07,853
Speaker 2: was not put a question mark on the end. Yeah yeah,

587
00:27:07,893 --> 00:27:10,493
Speaker 2: I think I just stright effect and was waiting for

588
00:27:10,533 --> 00:27:13,733
Speaker 2: some compliments coming my way and your machine guns them

589
00:27:13,733 --> 00:27:17,853
Speaker 2: the facts. Steve he fell over. Yeah, yeah, we lost him.

590
00:27:17,893 --> 00:27:19,773
Speaker 2: Sorry about that, Steve, but thank you very much for

591
00:27:19,893 --> 00:27:22,733
Speaker 2: your call. Right, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

592
00:27:22,773 --> 00:27:23,773
Speaker 2: the number to call.

593
00:27:23,813 --> 00:27:23,933
Speaker 4: Now.

594
00:27:23,933 --> 00:27:26,653
Speaker 3: I've got a question for you, Matt, and for everybody listening.

595
00:27:27,333 --> 00:27:31,333
Speaker 3: What was the most expensive house sold in New Zealand ever?

596
00:27:31,933 --> 00:27:33,453
Speaker 3: In terms of dollar price?

597
00:27:34,173 --> 00:27:38,253
Speaker 2: The most expensive house, yep, ever sold in New Zealand?

598
00:27:38,493 --> 00:27:39,453
Speaker 3: Yep, what did itself for?

599
00:27:41,533 --> 00:27:43,573
Speaker 2: I'm going to say twenty three and a half million?

600
00:27:44,813 --> 00:27:46,653
Speaker 3: Okay, off, all right if you think you know? Nine

601
00:27:46,693 --> 00:27:49,693
Speaker 3: two nine two? How much did the most expensive house

602
00:27:49,733 --> 00:27:52,293
Speaker 3: in New Zealand sell for? We will be back very

603
00:27:52,293 --> 00:27:54,493
Speaker 3: shortly with more of your calls. It is twenty to two.

604
00:27:55,773 --> 00:27:59,093
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams with you is your afternoon rolls

605
00:27:59,173 --> 00:28:02,573
Speaker 1: on Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons news talks.

606
00:28:02,573 --> 00:28:04,733
Speaker 3: That'd be very good afternoon. We're talking about the Foreign

607
00:28:04,733 --> 00:28:08,293
Speaker 3: Buyer Band consultation underway to make some changes to that police.

608
00:28:08,573 --> 00:28:11,013
Speaker 3: It's expected later this year. Now, before the break, I

609
00:28:11,053 --> 00:28:14,053
Speaker 3: did ask the question how much did the most expensive

610
00:28:14,053 --> 00:28:17,653
Speaker 3: house in New Zealand sell for? And plenty of guesses

611
00:28:17,693 --> 00:28:18,253
Speaker 3: coming through.

612
00:28:18,493 --> 00:28:21,453
Speaker 2: Ok here we go here sixty seven million. This person

613
00:28:21,533 --> 00:28:25,213
Speaker 2: says forty seven million. Someone says fifteen million. You're dreaming

614
00:28:25,253 --> 00:28:30,413
Speaker 2: fifteen million. We're not that rubbish country. Forty five millions.

615
00:28:30,533 --> 00:28:33,213
Speaker 2: So many texts coming through. I said twenty three million.

616
00:28:33,253 --> 00:28:34,733
Speaker 2: Someone says thirty eight million.

617
00:28:35,613 --> 00:28:38,253
Speaker 3: Pretty close, pretty close. So the most expensive house ever

618
00:28:38,333 --> 00:28:42,493
Speaker 3: sold in New Zealand. It's called the chan Tesla and

619
00:28:42,533 --> 00:28:47,613
Speaker 3: it's in Queenstown, a nineteen hectare, a beautiful luxury home

620
00:28:47,693 --> 00:28:49,333
Speaker 3: along with a heck of a lot of land, and

621
00:28:49,333 --> 00:28:51,573
Speaker 3: it was sold for forty five million dollars.

622
00:28:51,693 --> 00:28:52,573
Speaker 2: Was that a foreign buyer?

623
00:28:52,733 --> 00:28:56,013
Speaker 3: It was a foreign buyer, an Australian multi millionaire. And

624
00:28:56,053 --> 00:28:57,533
Speaker 3: he did say at the time of the purchase, which

625
00:28:57,573 --> 00:28:59,413
Speaker 3: was in twenty twenty three, that he's going to use

626
00:28:59,453 --> 00:29:01,613
Speaker 3: some of that nineteen hectares for a housing development.

627
00:29:02,053 --> 00:29:05,853
Speaker 2: Ah right, and so but that wasn't a new build,

628
00:29:05,933 --> 00:29:07,653
Speaker 2: was it? So someone else had built it and lived

629
00:29:07,693 --> 00:29:09,293
Speaker 2: in it. He's not the first person in it.

630
00:29:09,373 --> 00:29:10,613
Speaker 3: No, No, he didn't build it.

631
00:29:11,173 --> 00:29:13,413
Speaker 2: How much is the Coatsville mentioned? The kim dot com

632
00:29:13,453 --> 00:29:15,533
Speaker 2: mentioned that I think is currently has it currently lived

633
00:29:15,573 --> 00:29:21,053
Speaker 2: in with the what's it's the family?

634
00:29:21,093 --> 00:29:24,493
Speaker 3: It is Yeah, So the Coatsville mentioned in Auckland was

635
00:29:25,173 --> 00:29:28,493
Speaker 3: last sold for thirty two zero point five million dollars

636
00:29:28,493 --> 00:29:33,253
Speaker 3: in June twenty sixteen, but currently so if it was

637
00:29:33,293 --> 00:29:35,573
Speaker 3: last sold in twenty sixteen, and this is an up

638
00:29:35,573 --> 00:29:39,613
Speaker 3: to date story, so siblings Anna Matt and Nick Mowbray

639
00:29:39,733 --> 00:29:42,253
Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen and a secret deal broken by Barford

640
00:29:42,293 --> 00:29:44,933
Speaker 3: and Topson purchased that property.

641
00:29:44,653 --> 00:29:46,173
Speaker 2: Right because Kim dot Com was just renting it.

642
00:29:46,213 --> 00:29:46,933
Speaker 1: I believe he was.

643
00:29:47,053 --> 00:29:49,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, because wasn't it normally the Criscos mentioned, wasn't it?

644
00:29:49,693 --> 00:29:51,213
Speaker 2: It wasn't that one built around? I Mean, we're just

645
00:29:51,253 --> 00:29:53,933
Speaker 2: were way off topic here, but I think that one

646
00:29:53,973 --> 00:29:57,733
Speaker 2: looks like it's generally been in New Zealand owned uber purchase,

647
00:29:57,813 --> 00:29:58,053
Speaker 2: isn't it?

648
00:29:58,133 --> 00:29:58,293
Speaker 7: Yeah?

649
00:29:58,333 --> 00:30:00,973
Speaker 2: Because I think it was Crisco's money that built it originally.

650
00:30:01,053 --> 00:30:04,293
Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah, beautiful mention that one, but very good. Right.

651
00:30:04,333 --> 00:30:06,653
Speaker 3: We are taking your calls on the foreign by a band,

652
00:30:06,693 --> 00:30:08,333
Speaker 3: should there be changes O E. One hundred and eighty ten.

653
00:30:08,733 --> 00:30:16,533
Speaker 17: Welcome to show John your thoughts on this, John Johnny

654
00:30:16,893 --> 00:30:22,133
Speaker 17: Johnny Hey, John John Boy.

655
00:30:21,893 --> 00:30:25,253
Speaker 2: Oh, Johnny, Johnny Johnny.

656
00:30:25,253 --> 00:30:28,173
Speaker 3: I'm going to go to Chris good afternoon.

657
00:30:28,413 --> 00:30:29,893
Speaker 2: How are you going, Chris?

658
00:30:29,933 --> 00:30:34,493
Speaker 13: Look, look, I welcome everybody to buy a house when

659
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Speaker 13: they want them, but I disagree with everybody coming off

660
00:30:38,373 --> 00:30:41,573
Speaker 13: the boat and plane buying up all our houses, okay

661
00:30:41,733 --> 00:30:48,293
Speaker 13: for investment purposes. No, I don't think that's fair. I

662
00:30:48,333 --> 00:30:50,053
Speaker 13: think if you're gonna live in it, live in it,

663
00:30:50,893 --> 00:30:55,333
Speaker 13: and if you're gonna rent it, and you know, do

664
00:30:55,373 --> 00:30:58,333
Speaker 13: all that great. But the reason why I say no

665
00:30:58,853 --> 00:31:02,693
Speaker 13: is because when they come here, they buy a house

666
00:31:02,813 --> 00:31:05,893
Speaker 13: and then they turf back to the country and they

667
00:31:06,173 --> 00:31:09,213
Speaker 13: and they and they don't live in it, and that

668
00:31:09,573 --> 00:31:13,533
Speaker 13: leaves a lot of houses out of stock for anyone

669
00:31:13,533 --> 00:31:14,773
Speaker 13: who really wanted a home.

670
00:31:15,253 --> 00:31:17,373
Speaker 10: And and I think the.

671
00:31:17,413 --> 00:31:24,533
Speaker 13: Foreign by ben should just stay how it is, because uh,

672
00:31:25,253 --> 00:31:28,053
Speaker 13: it's it just doesn't sound right, you know, you know

673
00:31:28,093 --> 00:31:28,533
Speaker 13: what I mean?

674
00:31:28,853 --> 00:31:31,493
Speaker 2: Well, what what if there was a rule, a ghost

675
00:31:31,533 --> 00:31:33,453
Speaker 2: house rule kind of situation where you.

676
00:31:33,453 --> 00:31:36,573
Speaker 13: Sed to both around there's lots for those around, there's

677
00:31:36,613 --> 00:31:39,253
Speaker 13: heaps of houses for that other empty round Auckland. If

678
00:31:39,293 --> 00:31:40,693
Speaker 13: you go sayt hell he is, yeah.

679
00:31:40,493 --> 00:31:42,373
Speaker 2: But what if there was a what if there was

680
00:31:43,013 --> 00:31:45,773
Speaker 2: a tax on the house being empty, if the if

681
00:31:45,773 --> 00:31:48,333
Speaker 2: the house was empty for more than six months, you

682
00:31:48,413 --> 00:31:51,653
Speaker 2: start taxing them at quite an quite a quite a

683
00:31:51,733 --> 00:31:52,173
Speaker 2: high rate.

684
00:31:54,813 --> 00:31:57,613
Speaker 13: I think they had something in place they were thinking

685
00:31:57,653 --> 00:32:01,013
Speaker 13: about that, about getting a tax in place or some

686
00:32:01,093 --> 00:32:04,813
Speaker 13: kind of you know, because of people then banking them

687
00:32:04,853 --> 00:32:08,013
Speaker 13: and stuff. But yep, I think that would be okay.

688
00:32:08,053 --> 00:32:10,973
Speaker 13: But yeah, I'm what I'm talking about is more people

689
00:32:10,973 --> 00:32:13,293
Speaker 13: that's buying the house, not living in it.

690
00:32:13,373 --> 00:32:14,573
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's.

691
00:32:15,373 --> 00:32:18,133
Speaker 2: Definitely want people to be committing to the country. Don't

692
00:32:18,253 --> 00:32:20,173
Speaker 2: if we possibly can. But do you think do you

693
00:32:20,173 --> 00:32:22,853
Speaker 2: think foreign investment into New Zealand is an important thing

694
00:32:22,893 --> 00:32:23,693
Speaker 2: that we need it?

695
00:32:24,533 --> 00:32:24,733
Speaker 18: Yes?

696
00:32:25,333 --> 00:32:30,533
Speaker 13: And our in our commercial sector yes, and bringing jobs

697
00:32:30,853 --> 00:32:34,253
Speaker 13: but not not houses and and the other thing.

698
00:32:34,893 --> 00:32:37,413
Speaker 2: But if you say you've got a major company, let's

699
00:32:37,413 --> 00:32:39,053
Speaker 2: just make up a company and a huge tech company

700
00:32:39,093 --> 00:32:40,413
Speaker 2: they want to move to New Zealand and they want

701
00:32:40,453 --> 00:32:43,013
Speaker 2: they need a lot of their executives here. So their

702
00:32:43,053 --> 00:32:45,653
Speaker 2: executives if they want to they want to be part

703
00:32:45,693 --> 00:32:47,653
Speaker 2: of New Zealand and they want to build up this

704
00:32:47,733 --> 00:32:50,013
Speaker 2: company based in New Zealand, then their executives are going

705
00:32:50,053 --> 00:32:51,693
Speaker 2: to have to be able to buy houses or they're

706
00:32:51,693 --> 00:32:53,253
Speaker 2: not going to want to move here. And then the

707
00:32:53,253 --> 00:32:54,533
Speaker 2: whole company is not going to want to move here.

708
00:32:54,533 --> 00:32:55,533
Speaker 2: If you know what I'm saying, Well.

709
00:32:55,693 --> 00:32:58,533
Speaker 13: That's that's fair enough. If they're going to move here

710
00:32:58,533 --> 00:33:03,613
Speaker 13: and bring business to New Zealand and jobs. Yes, I agree, yep,

711
00:33:03,733 --> 00:33:08,693
Speaker 13: my yes, south the house. But I'm more directly at

712
00:33:08,733 --> 00:33:10,493
Speaker 13: the people that come here, buy a house and then

713
00:33:10,533 --> 00:33:12,613
Speaker 13: fly back to their country, because I mean, I couldn't

714
00:33:12,653 --> 00:33:15,773
Speaker 13: go over another country like you know, I won't say,

715
00:33:15,973 --> 00:33:19,773
Speaker 13: but and buy a house overnight, you know, and then

716
00:33:19,933 --> 00:33:23,773
Speaker 13: leave there and come back. So I think there is fair.

717
00:33:25,093 --> 00:33:25,733
Speaker 8: It should be.

718
00:33:25,693 --> 00:33:29,013
Speaker 13: Looked at in that way because it's got a benefit.

719
00:33:29,733 --> 00:33:31,093
Speaker 13: You either live here or you don't.

720
00:33:32,133 --> 00:33:36,013
Speaker 2: So essentially what you're saying now, if we could get

721
00:33:36,013 --> 00:33:39,933
Speaker 2: the capacity that we could investigate claims strategically for people

722
00:33:39,933 --> 00:33:43,533
Speaker 2: that want to move here, and you know, the Overseas

723
00:33:43,573 --> 00:33:46,933
Speaker 2: Investment Office could could look at people and go, well,

724
00:33:46,973 --> 00:33:48,613
Speaker 2: this is great, this person's going to stay for a while.

725
00:33:48,653 --> 00:33:52,213
Speaker 2: They're a benefit for the country. Then then we bring

726
00:33:52,253 --> 00:33:55,493
Speaker 2: them in rather than it being just a blanket. Number

727
00:33:55,573 --> 00:33:58,413
Speaker 2: three shold say two million dollars. Each person that comes

728
00:33:58,413 --> 00:34:01,533
Speaker 2: in is assessed on their merits and they move forward.

729
00:34:01,893 --> 00:34:03,893
Speaker 2: I guess the only problem with would you think that

730
00:34:03,973 --> 00:34:04,733
Speaker 2: was a good idea.

731
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Speaker 13: Chris, Yes and no, But I guess that you have

732
00:34:11,293 --> 00:34:14,893
Speaker 13: to look at it. Where how many houses do they

733
00:34:15,013 --> 00:34:22,453
Speaker 13: want and where where? You know, look like I said,

734
00:34:22,693 --> 00:34:24,333
Speaker 13: I work from anyone to buy a house, but I

735
00:34:24,373 --> 00:34:27,212
Speaker 13: think it just comes down to, you know, if you're

736
00:34:27,213 --> 00:34:30,053
Speaker 13: going to buy a house, live in it, put your

737
00:34:30,053 --> 00:34:32,333
Speaker 13: family in it. But if you're just coming here and

738
00:34:32,373 --> 00:34:34,813
Speaker 13: you just want to leave it there and not do

739
00:34:34,893 --> 00:34:37,213
Speaker 13: anything with it, what's use of buying a house in

740
00:34:37,253 --> 00:34:37,893
Speaker 13: the first place.

741
00:34:38,013 --> 00:34:40,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris, thank you very much. And a lot of people, yeah,

742
00:34:40,693 --> 00:34:43,053
Speaker 3: think you go, well, have a good afternoon. So a

743
00:34:43,093 --> 00:34:45,533
Speaker 3: lot of people would agree with what Chris is saying.

744
00:34:45,733 --> 00:34:47,533
Speaker 3: But the idea of ghost homes, I mean, there's a

745
00:34:47,573 --> 00:34:49,893
Speaker 3: lot of loopholes around. And I just use this example

746
00:34:49,893 --> 00:34:53,093
Speaker 3: because I know it existed when they had the grant

747
00:34:53,133 --> 00:34:55,693
Speaker 3: for the first home buyers. One of the conditions was

748
00:34:55,693 --> 00:34:57,293
Speaker 3: that you lived in the house for a year, and

749
00:34:57,293 --> 00:34:59,293
Speaker 3: that was very easy to get around. You just send

750
00:34:59,293 --> 00:35:02,493
Speaker 3: your mail to that particular property and buy all accounts

751
00:35:02,493 --> 00:35:03,893
Speaker 3: that you do live in the home. But there was

752
00:35:03,933 --> 00:35:06,293
Speaker 3: certainly ways around there. And same with ghost houses. You know,

753
00:35:06,333 --> 00:35:09,613
Speaker 3: it's very difficult to implement to say you have to

754
00:35:09,613 --> 00:35:11,652
Speaker 3: live in this house. For so many times they'll just

755
00:35:11,653 --> 00:35:13,693
Speaker 3: get a po box and get male sent there and

756
00:35:13,733 --> 00:35:16,213
Speaker 3: by all accounts, according to the government box, they are

757
00:35:16,373 --> 00:35:18,373
Speaker 3: living in that house. Very you got to have. You

758
00:35:18,413 --> 00:35:19,973
Speaker 3: can't have someone going around knocking.

759
00:35:19,773 --> 00:35:22,173
Speaker 2: On doors and you just go, look that's my batch,

760
00:35:22,933 --> 00:35:24,252
Speaker 2: that's my Central Auckland batch.

761
00:35:24,413 --> 00:35:27,093
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, very difficult to try and enforce that.

762
00:35:27,573 --> 00:35:30,733
Speaker 2: It's interesting though, because you know, I went for a

763
00:35:30,813 --> 00:35:35,453
Speaker 2: run recently around Arrowtown area. Yep, beautiful and I a big,

764
00:35:35,493 --> 00:35:38,293
Speaker 2: wide ranging fifteen k run I went on and I

765
00:35:38,373 --> 00:35:42,933
Speaker 2: was running past so many empty houses, beautiful houses because

766
00:35:42,933 --> 00:35:46,173
Speaker 2: they're owned by people that only come in for a small,

767
00:35:46,853 --> 00:35:47,692
Speaker 2: small part of the year.

768
00:35:47,773 --> 00:35:48,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, the holiday homes.

769
00:35:48,933 --> 00:35:51,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, holiday homes. And yet it's very hard for someone

770
00:35:51,413 --> 00:35:53,453
Speaker 2: that's working in Queenstown to get a house or that

771
00:35:54,133 --> 00:35:58,093
Speaker 2: whole Lake District area. But it's like it's quite eerie

772
00:35:58,533 --> 00:36:00,613
Speaker 2: you're running around and just this whole sort of area

773
00:36:00,653 --> 00:36:03,093
Speaker 2: where there's no one living. Yeah, but they're absolutely beautiful.

774
00:36:03,093 --> 00:36:05,053
Speaker 3: It's complicated, that's for sure. Oh one hundred and eighty

775
00:36:05,053 --> 00:36:07,413
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. It is nine

776
00:36:07,453 --> 00:36:08,973
Speaker 3: to two. But can you get your thoughts on the

777
00:36:08,973 --> 00:36:11,533
Speaker 3: foreign by Band. Should there be changes? If there should

778
00:36:11,533 --> 00:36:13,853
Speaker 3: be changes, what should those be? Can you get your thoughts?

779
00:36:15,413 --> 00:36:18,652
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Tyler Adams taking your calls on oh, eight

780
00:36:18,733 --> 00:36:21,133
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tyler

781
00:36:21,173 --> 00:36:23,413
Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons news Talk said, be.

782
00:36:24,253 --> 00:36:26,133
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon. We have been talking about the Foreign

783
00:36:26,173 --> 00:36:26,653
Speaker 3: by band.

784
00:36:27,013 --> 00:36:29,253
Speaker 2: So use A lot of people are saying that the

785
00:36:29,293 --> 00:36:32,293
Speaker 2: Jason Statham house sold for fifty million. I'm starting I'm

786
00:36:32,333 --> 00:36:34,213
Speaker 2: remembering that. So what did you say that the top.

787
00:36:34,133 --> 00:36:36,053
Speaker 3: Was forty five million dollars?

788
00:36:36,693 --> 00:36:39,453
Speaker 2: Didn't we have a story we were talking about Jason Statham.

789
00:36:39,693 --> 00:36:41,493
Speaker 2: That is not his house, but where he was staying,

790
00:36:41,933 --> 00:36:44,893
Speaker 2: Jason Statham. It was a it was a it was

791
00:36:45,053 --> 00:36:49,772
Speaker 2: a one roof story. So here we go fifty six

792
00:36:49,813 --> 00:36:50,693
Speaker 2: million dollars.

793
00:36:51,213 --> 00:36:53,173
Speaker 3: Well, this is a one roof story as well. Inside

794
00:36:53,213 --> 00:36:55,933
Speaker 3: New Zealand's ten most expensive homes. Who bought, who sold

795
00:36:55,933 --> 00:36:58,413
Speaker 3: and who did the deals? Now? Correct me if I'm wrong.

796
00:36:58,413 --> 00:37:01,933
Speaker 3: But the Jason Statham article that was suspected it was

797
00:37:01,973 --> 00:37:04,853
Speaker 3: fifty six million dollars, but it wasn't. It was made private?

798
00:37:04,933 --> 00:37:05,413
Speaker 3: Is that right?

799
00:37:05,933 --> 00:37:08,933
Speaker 2: Jason Statham's Kiwi crib snapped up in fifty six million

800
00:37:09,013 --> 00:37:12,853
Speaker 2: dollar mentioned deal. Tyler Well Statham stayed in the luxury

801
00:37:12,893 --> 00:37:15,533
Speaker 2: waterfront home mother and for Megan two thousand and six.

802
00:37:16,093 --> 00:37:17,933
Speaker 2: This this is ridiculous. I mean, the fact that Jason

803
00:37:17,973 --> 00:37:20,133
Speaker 2: Statham stayed in it is not the big point.

804
00:37:20,693 --> 00:37:21,812
Speaker 3: Not much of a sealing point.

805
00:37:22,573 --> 00:37:24,973
Speaker 2: All right, great man, that Jason stathum is.

806
00:37:24,973 --> 00:37:27,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's say fifty six million. Then whoever

807
00:37:27,173 --> 00:37:30,133
Speaker 3: takes that through. You're right, it's a very nice place.

808
00:37:30,173 --> 00:37:31,172
Speaker 3: It is a beautiful home.

809
00:37:31,293 --> 00:37:33,973
Speaker 2: If I had a speare fifty six million rattling round

810
00:37:33,973 --> 00:37:36,093
Speaker 2: in my back, poppet, I might buy the Stathan mention.

811
00:37:37,773 --> 00:37:40,453
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred eighteen eighties number to call? Gurrett?

812
00:37:40,893 --> 00:37:41,813
Speaker 2: Am I getting your name right?

813
00:37:41,893 --> 00:37:42,093
Speaker 8: Yeah?

814
00:37:42,373 --> 00:37:42,613
Speaker 2: Hey?

815
00:37:42,773 --> 00:37:43,333
Speaker 5: How are yes?

816
00:37:43,413 --> 00:37:43,652
Speaker 1: You have?

817
00:37:44,333 --> 00:37:44,533
Speaker 7: Yeah?

818
00:37:44,773 --> 00:37:45,573
Speaker 19: I'm good, I'm good.

819
00:37:45,573 --> 00:37:46,172
Speaker 8: Thanks.

820
00:37:47,373 --> 00:37:47,613
Speaker 10: Yeah.

821
00:37:47,653 --> 00:37:49,333
Speaker 19: The reason why I want to talk to you is

822
00:37:49,853 --> 00:37:53,213
Speaker 19: I came to New Zealand in nineteen eighty and I

823
00:37:53,373 --> 00:37:55,853
Speaker 19: just want to share my frustration about this whole foreign

824
00:37:55,893 --> 00:38:00,613
Speaker 19: investment business. When I came to New Zealand in nineteen eighty,

825
00:38:00,733 --> 00:38:03,253
Speaker 19: every man and his dog had his own house and

826
00:38:03,293 --> 00:38:09,293
Speaker 19: his own quarter acre, right, And then the foreign investments

827
00:38:09,333 --> 00:38:15,453
Speaker 19: came in and all all houses were sold as an investment.

828
00:38:15,853 --> 00:38:19,573
Speaker 19: Like I met one American guy from New York. He

829
00:38:19,653 --> 00:38:21,133
Speaker 19: had bought forty houses.

830
00:38:21,493 --> 00:38:23,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I said.

831
00:38:22,933 --> 00:38:24,973
Speaker 19: To them, why did you do this? You're taking away

832
00:38:25,373 --> 00:38:29,053
Speaker 19: the houses off our working class people. We can't afford

833
00:38:29,053 --> 00:38:31,373
Speaker 19: it if we can't afford to buy a house anymore, if.

834
00:38:31,253 --> 00:38:35,333
Speaker 10: You do that, so that makes me happy? Well yeah,

835
00:38:35,373 --> 00:38:39,133
Speaker 10: okay happy, yeah.

836
00:38:38,733 --> 00:38:40,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's a fair point.

837
00:38:40,093 --> 00:38:40,293
Speaker 2: Gud.

838
00:38:40,333 --> 00:38:41,853
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for your phone call. And I

839
00:38:41,893 --> 00:38:43,213
Speaker 3: think a lot of people would feel the way that

840
00:38:43,253 --> 00:38:46,293
Speaker 3: you're feeling. I one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

841
00:38:46,453 --> 00:38:48,533
Speaker 3: the number to call. We're going to carry this on

842
00:38:48,693 --> 00:38:50,573
Speaker 3: after two o'clock. We've got so many people who want

843
00:38:50,573 --> 00:38:51,693
Speaker 3: to have a chat about this. If you want to

844
00:38:51,693 --> 00:38:55,133
Speaker 3: see the text. Nine to nine two is the number.

845
00:38:56,133 --> 00:38:58,933
Speaker 3: New Sport and Weather on its way. Fantastic to have

846
00:38:58,973 --> 00:39:01,453
Speaker 3: your company as always. But oh eight, one hundred and

847
00:39:01,493 --> 00:39:03,613
Speaker 3: eighty ten to eighty is the number to call the

848
00:39:03,653 --> 00:39:06,573
Speaker 3: Foreign buyer band. Should it be changed? Winston Peters says

849
00:39:06,573 --> 00:39:09,772
Speaker 3: there is consultation afoot making some changes to that. Should

850
00:39:09,813 --> 00:39:11,973
Speaker 3: it be done away with all together? Or does it

851
00:39:12,253 --> 00:39:15,053
Speaker 3: make sense? Get on the phonees Oh wait, one hundred

852
00:39:15,053 --> 00:39:18,973
Speaker 3: and eighteen eighty. It is three minutes to two News

853
00:39:19,013 --> 00:39:20,933
Speaker 3: coming up. You're listening to Matt and Tyler. Very good

854
00:39:20,933 --> 00:39:21,573
Speaker 3: afternoon to you.

855
00:39:26,413 --> 00:39:30,213
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams

856
00:39:30,253 --> 00:39:32,053
Speaker 1: Afternoons News Talks.

857
00:39:32,093 --> 00:39:35,373
Speaker 3: It'd be afternoons to you. Welcome back into the program.

858
00:39:35,453 --> 00:39:37,093
Speaker 3: So we're going to carry on the discussion about the

859
00:39:37,093 --> 00:39:40,053
Speaker 3: foreign buyer band for a little bit long. Had so

860
00:39:40,213 --> 00:39:42,853
Speaker 3: many texts come through about where the changes are needed.

861
00:39:42,893 --> 00:39:46,652
Speaker 3: Consultation is underway within New Zealand first to look at

862
00:39:46,733 --> 00:39:49,213
Speaker 3: changing that foreign buyer band that they bought in in

863
00:39:49,253 --> 00:39:51,692
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, and the Prime Minister he has said those

864
00:39:51,733 --> 00:39:54,453
Speaker 3: conversations are ongoing and they expect to make an announcements

865
00:39:54,533 --> 00:39:55,133
Speaker 3: later this year.

866
00:39:55,133 --> 00:39:56,493
Speaker 2: I've got a question for you. If you buy a

867
00:39:56,533 --> 00:39:59,733
Speaker 2: fifty six million dollar house like this Jason Statham House

868
00:39:59,773 --> 00:40:02,013
Speaker 2: in Auckland, right yep. When I say Jason Stathan, we're

869
00:40:02,013 --> 00:40:04,493
Speaker 2: talking about it before he lived in the house when

870
00:40:04,533 --> 00:40:06,212
Speaker 2: he was shooting the meg it was never his house.

871
00:40:06,573 --> 00:40:09,173
Speaker 2: Do you get a mortgage on that a mortgage on

872
00:40:09,173 --> 00:40:10,853
Speaker 2: a fifty six million dollar house, or do you only

873
00:40:10,853 --> 00:40:12,813
Speaker 2: buy the fifty six million dollar house if you've got

874
00:40:12,813 --> 00:40:13,693
Speaker 2: the money in the bank.

875
00:40:14,053 --> 00:40:16,013
Speaker 3: It's a great quishture. I mean, what's the down payments?

876
00:40:16,053 --> 00:40:18,093
Speaker 2: And if I if I had enough money to buy

877
00:40:18,093 --> 00:40:20,373
Speaker 2: a down payment, like just pay fifty six million dollars

878
00:40:20,413 --> 00:40:23,652
Speaker 2: for a house, right, Yeah, it would it make you

879
00:40:23,653 --> 00:40:25,413
Speaker 2: that much happy to have a fifty six million dollar

880
00:40:25,413 --> 00:40:29,853
Speaker 2: house over as say twenty million dollar house, like, because

881
00:40:30,173 --> 00:40:32,813
Speaker 2: potentially what would make you really happy is you buy

882
00:40:32,853 --> 00:40:35,212
Speaker 2: a twenty million dollar house and you spend thirty six

883
00:40:35,253 --> 00:40:37,573
Speaker 2: million dollars buying thirty six other people houses.

884
00:40:38,253 --> 00:40:40,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point just just.

885
00:40:39,973 --> 00:40:41,893
Speaker 2: To be or you know, scholarships or such.

886
00:40:42,173 --> 00:40:44,373
Speaker 3: I mean, how many rooms do you really need? The

887
00:40:44,413 --> 00:40:46,373
Speaker 3: people that buy mansions and it's just you know, a

888
00:40:46,373 --> 00:40:48,613
Speaker 3: billionaire and his wife and the kids have flowing the coup,

889
00:40:48,693 --> 00:40:52,293
Speaker 3: but they've got twenty three bedrooms and fifteen bathrooms. What

890
00:40:52,373 --> 00:40:53,413
Speaker 3: a mess of hassel.

891
00:40:54,133 --> 00:40:57,413
Speaker 2: I've got a few friends that have mass of houses. Yeah,

892
00:40:57,453 --> 00:40:59,413
Speaker 2: and they just seem to be rattling around to them.

893
00:41:00,133 --> 00:41:02,292
Speaker 2: They end up just sort of setting up little little

894
00:41:02,333 --> 00:41:04,213
Speaker 2: sort of camp sites where they hang out. Yeah, no,

895
00:41:04,293 --> 00:41:06,013
Speaker 2: little kitchen kitchen areas.

896
00:41:06,533 --> 00:41:08,733
Speaker 3: It's the Yeah, I mean it's too much space, isn't it.

897
00:41:08,773 --> 00:41:10,373
Speaker 3: Too much space. I was just trying to get.

898
00:41:11,013 --> 00:41:13,453
Speaker 2: To a hydroslide and they're sure, go for it. Or

899
00:41:13,533 --> 00:41:16,533
Speaker 2: bowling bowling l A, I get that. Cricket nets, let's

900
00:41:16,573 --> 00:41:19,453
Speaker 2: go indoor cricket nets, huge indoor pool, as long as

901
00:41:19,493 --> 00:41:22,333
Speaker 2: you're using it for fun stuff. You know, A you know,

902
00:41:22,373 --> 00:41:24,293
Speaker 2: a full virtual golf setup, let's go.

903
00:41:24,733 --> 00:41:26,813
Speaker 3: I tried to put how much a mortgage or the

904
00:41:27,053 --> 00:41:29,133
Speaker 3: repayments would be if you took a fifty six million

905
00:41:29,173 --> 00:41:32,053
Speaker 3: dollar mortgage, and unfortunately the calculator only goes up to

906
00:41:32,053 --> 00:41:34,053
Speaker 3: five million, So I don't know. I suppose I can

907
00:41:34,093 --> 00:41:35,093
Speaker 3: times that by ten.

908
00:41:36,013 --> 00:41:38,733
Speaker 2: To jet with your bank I've got I'm scratching up

909
00:41:38,773 --> 00:41:39,893
Speaker 2: to a ten percent deposit.

910
00:41:40,813 --> 00:41:43,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, so even if you bought borrow five million dollars,

911
00:41:43,293 --> 00:41:45,533
Speaker 3: that's twenty seven thousand dollars a month that you'd be

912
00:41:45,573 --> 00:41:46,173
Speaker 3: paying the bank.

913
00:41:46,573 --> 00:41:49,213
Speaker 2: Guys. I am an English second language teacher in a

914
00:41:49,213 --> 00:41:51,453
Speaker 2: private school, so many of my students are being looked

915
00:41:51,493 --> 00:41:53,493
Speaker 2: after by the grandparents. The parents bring the children to

916
00:41:53,533 --> 00:41:56,573
Speaker 2: New Zealand and enroll them in school, then they return

917
00:41:56,613 --> 00:41:59,573
Speaker 2: to the country and the grandparents take over. In many countries,

918
00:41:59,613 --> 00:42:02,252
Speaker 2: the grandparents do bring up the children while the parents work,

919
00:42:02,413 --> 00:42:05,773
Speaker 2: so it's a cultural cultural difference. But often I find

920
00:42:06,413 --> 00:42:10,213
Speaker 2: one second just and a one hundred texts came in

921
00:42:11,293 --> 00:42:13,933
Speaker 2: scrolling down to the end of it. Sorry, unprofessional of me.

922
00:42:14,013 --> 00:42:16,333
Speaker 2: In many countries the grandparents do bring up the children

923
00:42:16,373 --> 00:42:18,533
Speaker 2: while the parents work, so it's a cultural difference. But

924
00:42:18,573 --> 00:42:20,853
Speaker 2: often I find the grandparents speak little English and are

925
00:42:20,893 --> 00:42:23,573
Speaker 2: so and as such are very shy. They barely leave

926
00:42:23,613 --> 00:42:26,533
Speaker 2: the house, so it could be their living there, but

927
00:42:26,613 --> 00:42:29,213
Speaker 2: not just seen at all. I see. Yeah, So the

928
00:42:29,213 --> 00:42:31,013
Speaker 2: point is that you might be going past saying that's

929
00:42:31,053 --> 00:42:32,773
Speaker 2: a ghost house, or you've got us a couple of

930
00:42:32,853 --> 00:42:35,533
Speaker 2: terrified grandparents in there that they want to leave. Yeah,

931
00:42:35,573 --> 00:42:37,853
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a good situation for hiding

932
00:42:37,853 --> 00:42:40,973
Speaker 2: in the upstairs bedroom. Poor Thanks Tom, How are you

933
00:42:41,053 --> 00:42:41,653
Speaker 2: this afternoon?

934
00:42:42,773 --> 00:42:42,973
Speaker 5: Yeah?

935
00:42:43,013 --> 00:42:44,693
Speaker 20: Good gens.

936
00:42:45,173 --> 00:42:47,772
Speaker 13: Yeah, I was the foreign buyer.

937
00:42:47,853 --> 00:42:51,013
Speaker 20: Bend no get rid of it because you know who

938
00:42:51,013 --> 00:42:51,813
Speaker 20: brought it in, don't you?

939
00:42:52,653 --> 00:42:54,773
Speaker 3: New Zealand fest and.

940
00:42:56,413 --> 00:43:00,133
Speaker 20: Who were they go? I think you hit the nail

941
00:43:00,173 --> 00:43:05,652
Speaker 20: on the head. You're running, Well, we can, but that's

942
00:43:05,693 --> 00:43:09,733
Speaker 20: that's a I'd rather under pretty much all things that

943
00:43:09,733 --> 00:43:13,773
Speaker 20: they brought an except the plastic bag one they can keep.

944
00:43:13,613 --> 00:43:15,732
Speaker 5: That bag band.

945
00:43:16,333 --> 00:43:18,093
Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll survive.

946
00:43:18,693 --> 00:43:21,533
Speaker 16: But yeah, I think.

947
00:43:22,453 --> 00:43:23,652
Speaker 20: It's it's socialism.

948
00:43:23,893 --> 00:43:24,493
Speaker 14: I don't care.

949
00:43:24,573 --> 00:43:28,733
Speaker 20: I don't live in a big home, big house, three bedroom,

950
00:43:28,893 --> 00:43:31,732
Speaker 20: that's enough. But if someone can afford it, and they

951
00:43:31,773 --> 00:43:34,652
Speaker 20: pay the gardeners, and they pay for plumbers and pay

952
00:43:34,733 --> 00:43:37,013
Speaker 20: for people to paint it once they finish it, well,

953
00:43:37,133 --> 00:43:41,213
Speaker 20: and I'm all for it because that's more employment. I

954
00:43:41,213 --> 00:43:43,213
Speaker 20: think it's just small mindedness.

955
00:43:43,933 --> 00:43:46,413
Speaker 2: Would that include us right down to a five hundred

956
00:43:46,453 --> 00:43:48,213
Speaker 2: thousand dollars shoe box apartment?

957
00:43:48,773 --> 00:43:52,213
Speaker 20: Tom h five hundred thousand dollars, Now, you'd have to

958
00:43:52,213 --> 00:43:56,933
Speaker 20: go a bit big. I think I couldn't tell you

959
00:43:56,933 --> 00:43:58,652
Speaker 20: because I'm in the real estate game and I've never

960
00:43:58,653 --> 00:44:02,172
Speaker 20: looked at apartments. But yeah, I think that's I think

961
00:44:02,173 --> 00:44:04,373
Speaker 20: it's small minded. We need more of these people around us.

962
00:44:04,413 --> 00:44:07,813
Speaker 20: So I look at us as parasites, and you're going

963
00:44:07,813 --> 00:44:09,973
Speaker 20: to try and live off them, and you don't want

964
00:44:09,973 --> 00:44:11,453
Speaker 20: to have a bell of car from the shotgun to

965
00:44:11,493 --> 00:44:13,053
Speaker 20: try and get it off them. Do it through the

966
00:44:13,053 --> 00:44:17,652
Speaker 20: proper means. Yeah, I mean yeah, they'll they'll pay a

967
00:44:17,653 --> 00:44:20,813
Speaker 20: lot of they'll play a lot of taxes, so we

968
00:44:20,853 --> 00:44:24,493
Speaker 20: need those taxes to keep our social services going that

969
00:44:24,573 --> 00:44:27,652
Speaker 20: we all like. So I think we've got to get

970
00:44:27,653 --> 00:44:31,373
Speaker 20: over ourselves. And because it pretty much what those guys

971
00:44:31,373 --> 00:44:34,253
Speaker 20: brought in, it hasn't panned out too well, has it.

972
00:44:34,693 --> 00:44:36,413
Speaker 20: Can we say that, well.

973
00:44:36,253 --> 00:44:37,933
Speaker 3: It hasn't made the difference that they said it was

974
00:44:37,933 --> 00:44:39,093
Speaker 3: going to make, that's for sure.

975
00:44:40,213 --> 00:44:43,293
Speaker 20: Vices of homes are still pretty high. They're only down

976
00:44:43,293 --> 00:44:47,413
Speaker 20: because so many Kiwis are left for Ossie and for

977
00:44:47,493 --> 00:44:50,773
Speaker 20: better jobs. Maybe. I think the Aussie house prices are

978
00:44:50,813 --> 00:44:56,013
Speaker 20: pretty high too, sods. Yeah, and I mean you you you.

979
00:44:56,013 --> 00:44:58,853
Speaker 20: You get these richies coming in, they may startup businesses

980
00:44:58,853 --> 00:45:01,253
Speaker 20: so we get more jobs. I think it's a I

981
00:45:01,293 --> 00:45:03,853
Speaker 20: think it's very short sighted. And I think when he

982
00:45:04,733 --> 00:45:06,933
Speaker 20: is just finding it hard to digest what he sort

983
00:45:06,933 --> 00:45:07,493
Speaker 20: of brought.

984
00:45:07,293 --> 00:45:12,813
Speaker 2: In, I definitely think once Peters is he's softening on this.

985
00:45:13,733 --> 00:45:20,333
Speaker 3: Yeah absolutely, Tom, thank you m Yeah, yeah, exactly, Good

986
00:45:20,333 --> 00:45:22,333
Speaker 3: on you, Tom, Thank you very much. And that is

987
00:45:22,373 --> 00:45:24,413
Speaker 3: where we'll leave it. Thank you very much to everyone

988
00:45:24,413 --> 00:45:26,933
Speaker 3: who text and phoned on that one, a lot more

989
00:45:26,933 --> 00:45:29,692
Speaker 3: people than I thought, saying absolutely it needs to change

990
00:45:29,773 --> 00:45:31,533
Speaker 3: or even get rid of it. So we will see

991
00:45:31,533 --> 00:45:34,093
Speaker 3: what they decide a little bit later this year when

992
00:45:34,093 --> 00:45:36,213
Speaker 3: that is announced. Right, coming up, we want to have

993
00:45:36,253 --> 00:45:37,652
Speaker 3: a chat about sleep. How much do you Mike?

994
00:45:38,653 --> 00:45:38,853
Speaker 5: We go?

995
00:45:38,893 --> 00:45:41,413
Speaker 2: Sorry, Tyler's right. Hi, guys, we've just looked up at

996
00:45:41,413 --> 00:45:43,533
Speaker 2: a look at a house in Devenport that we like

997
00:45:43,733 --> 00:45:48,213
Speaker 2: visiting on holidays apparently recently sold for ten million. Fortnightly

998
00:45:48,253 --> 00:45:51,253
Speaker 2: payments that were calculated automatically came in at twenty eight K,

999
00:45:51,693 --> 00:45:53,853
Speaker 2: about twenty seven k more than we could afford.

1000
00:45:54,133 --> 00:45:55,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's always the crunch, isn't it.

1001
00:45:55,973 --> 00:45:57,652
Speaker 2: I just I just think it's that you would get

1002
00:45:57,693 --> 00:45:59,853
Speaker 2: a mortgage on something that's fifty six million dollars. There

1003
00:45:59,893 --> 00:46:01,413
Speaker 2: must be something else going on. If you're getting a

1004
00:46:01,413 --> 00:46:06,413
Speaker 2: fifty six million dollar house, surely it's there's something else

1005
00:46:06,453 --> 00:46:09,253
Speaker 2: going on, because you know you're not going to be

1006
00:46:09,293 --> 00:46:12,333
Speaker 2: paying your mortgage at what are you paying fie hundred

1007
00:46:12,333 --> 00:46:13,853
Speaker 2: thousand dollars every two weeks on the mortgage?

1008
00:46:13,893 --> 00:46:15,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, good luck with Why would you scratch.

1009
00:46:15,573 --> 00:46:17,253
Speaker 2: Up to a fifty six million dollar house?

1010
00:46:17,413 --> 00:46:17,893
Speaker 3: Exactly?

1011
00:46:18,093 --> 00:46:21,292
Speaker 2: Just buy whatever the depositors live in a fifteen million

1012
00:46:21,333 --> 00:46:23,493
Speaker 2: dollar house. If that's the deposit, you'll still be happy.

1013
00:46:23,533 --> 00:46:25,373
Speaker 2: Fifteen million dollar home is a nice home. You'll we

1014
00:46:25,413 --> 00:46:30,013
Speaker 2: mortgage free. Yeah, right, in mortgage at a fifty six

1015
00:46:30,053 --> 00:46:32,133
Speaker 2: million dollars house. For some reason, I find that very amazing.

1016
00:46:32,853 --> 00:46:34,692
Speaker 3: Right, coming up, we want to have a chat about sleep.

1017
00:46:34,733 --> 00:46:36,333
Speaker 3: So how much do you monitor your sleep? The world

1018
00:46:36,373 --> 00:46:38,732
Speaker 3: of sleep, at says we know, has absolutely gone nuts

1019
00:46:38,773 --> 00:46:41,253
Speaker 3: over the recent couple of years. Apple Watch, Garman, Whoop,

1020
00:46:41,373 --> 00:46:43,692
Speaker 3: so many others. In a study last year showed over

1021
00:46:43,733 --> 00:46:46,533
Speaker 3: thirty five percent of Americans use some sort of sleep device,

1022
00:46:46,533 --> 00:46:49,773
Speaker 3: and in New Zealand a recent study shows ninety seven

1023
00:46:49,853 --> 00:46:52,853
Speaker 3: percent of us have issues with sleep. So, really, can

1024
00:46:52,893 --> 00:46:54,973
Speaker 3: you hear from you on the old sleep ads? Do

1025
00:46:55,013 --> 00:46:57,133
Speaker 3: you use them? And if you use them, do you

1026
00:46:57,133 --> 00:46:58,493
Speaker 3: think it's actually eight in your sleep?

1027
00:46:58,613 --> 00:46:58,773
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1028
00:46:58,853 --> 00:47:01,173
Speaker 2: That's that's the interesting part of it, right, because for

1029
00:47:01,173 --> 00:47:04,333
Speaker 2: the longest time in our lives, we were told, you know,

1030
00:47:05,293 --> 00:47:07,533
Speaker 2: get eight out of sleep and then you find ate

1031
00:47:07,573 --> 00:47:09,933
Speaker 2: our sleep was the key. And you know, we were

1032
00:47:09,933 --> 00:47:13,773
Speaker 2: talking the other day about malatonin yep and what people

1033
00:47:13,773 --> 00:47:16,613
Speaker 2: thought about that and malantonin and the Kiwi rail. Well

1034
00:47:16,613 --> 00:47:19,253
Speaker 2: where did that go with keey rail? They've still being malaton.

1035
00:47:18,933 --> 00:47:20,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Ley's still say no to malotonin.

1036
00:47:20,733 --> 00:47:24,173
Speaker 2: Anyway, we were told that eight hours sleep was great. However,

1037
00:47:24,173 --> 00:47:27,013
Speaker 2: you can get it. But once you get on the apps,

1038
00:47:27,053 --> 00:47:28,533
Speaker 2: and so many people are getting on the apps, and

1039
00:47:28,773 --> 00:47:31,373
Speaker 2: once you're on the sleeping apps, you know your phone on,

1040
00:47:31,653 --> 00:47:33,453
Speaker 2: you know you got your phone, you got your watch on,

1041
00:47:33,493 --> 00:47:36,613
Speaker 2: your smart watch on. Once you get on them, then

1042
00:47:36,653 --> 00:47:38,733
Speaker 2: you start talking about your sleep, start really concentrating on

1043
00:47:38,773 --> 00:47:40,893
Speaker 2: you on your sleep. And then you're going, well, I

1044
00:47:40,933 --> 00:47:45,252
Speaker 2: got seven and a half hours sleep, but only two

1045
00:47:45,293 --> 00:47:47,213
Speaker 2: hours of irem sleep.

1046
00:47:47,333 --> 00:47:48,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then.

1047
00:47:48,573 --> 00:47:51,533
Speaker 2: You go, oh, no, I only got thirty minutes of

1048
00:47:51,573 --> 00:47:54,733
Speaker 2: deep sleep, and suddenly your nickel and diming your sleep yeah,

1049
00:47:54,773 --> 00:47:57,973
Speaker 2: and you're waking up going oh, oh, I didn't actually

1050
00:47:57,973 --> 00:47:59,293
Speaker 2: get a good sleep even though I've got seven and

1051
00:47:59,293 --> 00:48:01,013
Speaker 2: a half hours of it. And so the question is

1052
00:48:01,013 --> 00:48:03,573
Speaker 2: is that a positive thing, is that you're drilling into

1053
00:48:03,693 --> 00:48:05,692
Speaker 2: the details of your sleep so you can work on it,

1054
00:48:06,053 --> 00:48:08,773
Speaker 2: or is that just you believing what you're watch is

1055
00:48:08,853 --> 00:48:11,693
Speaker 2: telling you to the point where you were, you're hassling

1056
00:48:11,693 --> 00:48:12,533
Speaker 2: the sleep that you've had.

1057
00:48:12,653 --> 00:48:14,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, self fulfilling prophecy.

1058
00:48:14,213 --> 00:48:16,652
Speaker 2: And should we just go back to if you get

1059
00:48:16,933 --> 00:48:18,693
Speaker 2: if you get seven and a half eight hours sleep,

1060
00:48:18,973 --> 00:48:20,373
Speaker 2: have a little party in the morning and get on

1061
00:48:20,413 --> 00:48:21,373
Speaker 2: with your life. It's probably good.

1062
00:48:21,653 --> 00:48:23,773
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call,

1063
00:48:24,013 --> 00:48:26,373
Speaker 3: love to hear from you on this. Do you use

1064
00:48:26,413 --> 00:48:28,133
Speaker 3: the sleep monitors and how's it going? It is a

1065
00:48:28,213 --> 00:48:28,773
Speaker 3: quarter past.

1066
00:48:28,693 --> 00:48:33,933
Speaker 1: Two your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams

1067
00:48:34,013 --> 00:48:37,933
Speaker 1: afternoons call, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk zed.

1068
00:48:37,853 --> 00:48:41,613
Speaker 3: B, News Talk ZB and we are talking about sleep

1069
00:48:41,653 --> 00:48:43,973
Speaker 3: apps and monitoring your sleep. If you do it, is

1070
00:48:43,973 --> 00:48:45,333
Speaker 3: it actually beneficial for you?

1071
00:48:45,373 --> 00:48:45,533
Speaker 21: Well?

1072
00:48:45,573 --> 00:48:47,252
Speaker 2: You and me were talking about butter in the break, Yeah,

1073
00:48:47,253 --> 00:48:51,172
Speaker 2: we were with the Hysdaria was continuing in the break.

1074
00:48:51,293 --> 00:48:52,653
Speaker 3: Nice, well done, well done.

1075
00:48:52,933 --> 00:48:56,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what we're talking about on air is sleep.

1076
00:48:57,093 --> 00:48:59,893
Speaker 2: Hundred eighty ten eighty. Are you wearing a sleep watch

1077
00:48:59,933 --> 00:49:01,732
Speaker 2: to bed? Are you tracking your sleep? Is it making

1078
00:49:01,733 --> 00:49:04,733
Speaker 2: you sleep better or is it making it worse? Is

1079
00:49:04,773 --> 00:49:07,453
Speaker 2: there too much information? Doreen, welcome to the show.

1080
00:49:08,493 --> 00:49:08,933
Speaker 18: Thank you.

1081
00:49:09,733 --> 00:49:15,133
Speaker 22: My husband he's subsetive about comparing our sleep every morning.

1082
00:49:15,253 --> 00:49:18,813
Speaker 22: I can't do anything, I can't leave the begros tell me,

1083
00:49:18,893 --> 00:49:21,093
Speaker 22: tell me what you've got and he'll go deep sleep

1084
00:49:21,133 --> 00:49:22,613
Speaker 22: and then it will compare it the end of that

1085
00:49:22,973 --> 00:49:26,133
Speaker 22: light light, he goes, oh, you're cheating, you're meditating that

1086
00:49:26,293 --> 00:49:29,453
Speaker 22: gives you more sleep. And he's just and he tells

1087
00:49:29,493 --> 00:49:32,933
Speaker 22: people he's finally found a sport that he enjoyed. Competitive sleeping.

1088
00:49:34,733 --> 00:49:37,173
Speaker 2: Wow, now, I've never thought of that. So so what

1089
00:49:37,213 --> 00:49:38,093
Speaker 2: are you doing to win?

1090
00:49:38,493 --> 00:49:38,853
Speaker 5: Are you?

1091
00:49:38,933 --> 00:49:40,853
Speaker 2: Are you doing more exercise in the day? So are

1092
00:49:40,893 --> 00:49:41,493
Speaker 2: you more tired?

1093
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Speaker 22: I've always been a good sweeter, and yeah, he he

1094
00:49:47,333 --> 00:49:51,173
Speaker 22: doesn't win very often. And excuse I cheat, or you'll go, no,

1095
00:49:51,293 --> 00:49:54,333
Speaker 22: that's not right, what is wrong? Or you're doing something?

1096
00:49:54,493 --> 00:49:56,213
Speaker 22: And I said, well, I never take before a bake up.

1097
00:49:56,213 --> 00:49:59,653
Speaker 22: Oh that's such. You know, he's just t to find

1098
00:49:59,853 --> 00:50:04,493
Speaker 22: holes in my sleeping. But yeah, there's interesting.

1099
00:50:04,573 --> 00:50:05,093
Speaker 23: A lot of.

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00:50:05,013 --> 00:50:09,773
Speaker 22: People I know do have a tendency to sort of

1101
00:50:09,853 --> 00:50:13,733
Speaker 22: experience the day depending on how they swept the day before,

1102
00:50:13,813 --> 00:50:17,493
Speaker 22: the night before. Yeah, or they won't go to bed

1103
00:50:17,533 --> 00:50:19,853
Speaker 22: whether you're watch on at night because they're scared of

1104
00:50:19,893 --> 00:50:22,973
Speaker 22: what's happening to their bodies while you're asleep, or the

1105
00:50:23,613 --> 00:50:28,413
Speaker 22: electromagnetics or something like that. It's just kind of weird.

1106
00:50:27,693 --> 00:50:30,933
Speaker 22: I must have been. If I don't get good deep

1107
00:50:31,013 --> 00:50:34,213
Speaker 22: and rem I do feel a bit off and the

1108
00:50:34,533 --> 00:50:37,813
Speaker 22: next day I do feel tired or whatever. So there's

1109
00:50:37,853 --> 00:50:41,453
Speaker 22: obviously a set point from me or everybody where they

1110
00:50:41,453 --> 00:50:43,893
Speaker 22: get a good amount of balance sleep. And I think

1111
00:50:44,053 --> 00:50:46,493
Speaker 22: the word is balance is that we need to be

1112
00:50:46,533 --> 00:50:47,133
Speaker 22: looking at.

1113
00:50:47,213 --> 00:50:49,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you need, you need, so REM is good

1114
00:50:49,973 --> 00:50:52,773
Speaker 2: for your mind. I understand it's just sorting your thoughts

1115
00:50:52,893 --> 00:50:55,373
Speaker 2: and such. You mede a bit of REM, but apparently

1116
00:50:55,373 --> 00:50:57,413
Speaker 2: you also need I'd never heard about this until recently.

1117
00:50:57,493 --> 00:51:00,573
Speaker 2: Deep sleep, and that's where your muscles grow and the

1118
00:51:01,053 --> 00:51:06,213
Speaker 2: sort of the physical side of sleeps benefits come in right, So,

1119
00:51:06,373 --> 00:51:08,732
Speaker 2: and that's hard to get the deep sleepers. It's really

1120
00:51:08,773 --> 00:51:10,853
Speaker 2: hard to get a good deep sleep score. Are you

1121
00:51:10,893 --> 00:51:13,133
Speaker 2: getting a decent deep sleep score? Dooring?

1122
00:51:14,093 --> 00:51:16,493
Speaker 22: I am now at the moment I go through patches,

1123
00:51:16,533 --> 00:51:19,172
Speaker 22: But I think it's to do with it's not only

1124
00:51:19,173 --> 00:51:22,173
Speaker 22: you're exercising, you're eating, what time, what you're eating, but

1125
00:51:22,693 --> 00:51:26,652
Speaker 22: the temperature of the rooms. I when to time. I

1126
00:51:26,653 --> 00:51:30,693
Speaker 22: think we're more we hibernate, that we're not like animals hibernates,

1127
00:51:30,973 --> 00:51:33,373
Speaker 22: but sort of sleeping like a hibernation. We go to

1128
00:51:33,413 --> 00:51:36,493
Speaker 22: bed earlier, wake up later. So I think that's the

1129
00:51:36,853 --> 00:51:41,652
Speaker 22: seasonal responses to how you sleep as important as well. Yeah,

1130
00:51:41,973 --> 00:51:42,933
Speaker 22: it's quite fun.

1131
00:51:43,573 --> 00:51:45,652
Speaker 3: I mean, I am one of those weirdosed dooring as.

1132
00:51:45,693 --> 00:51:48,293
Speaker 3: I used to monitorize sleep, but I gave it up

1133
00:51:48,293 --> 00:51:50,053
Speaker 3: and I just checked. The last time I monitored it

1134
00:51:50,093 --> 00:51:52,533
Speaker 3: was December last year, and I gave it up because

1135
00:51:52,613 --> 00:51:55,413
Speaker 3: I was getting such terrible sleep that I think I

1136
00:51:55,653 --> 00:51:58,773
Speaker 3: was getting into this pattern where I'm so terrified that

1137
00:51:58,813 --> 00:52:00,573
Speaker 3: I'm going to get a good night's sleep that I

1138
00:52:00,573 --> 00:52:02,893
Speaker 3: don't want to know how I'm sleeping. So I just

1139
00:52:03,253 --> 00:52:04,373
Speaker 3: I gave it up completely.

1140
00:52:05,573 --> 00:52:06,613
Speaker 22: I see you quit the sport.

1141
00:52:07,053 --> 00:52:09,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like the idea of that. I was

1142
00:52:09,933 --> 00:52:12,053
Speaker 2: talking a while ago about the concept of being a

1143
00:52:12,093 --> 00:52:15,293
Speaker 2: sleep hero, so trying to focus so much in your

1144
00:52:15,293 --> 00:52:17,652
Speaker 2: sleep because sleep is so incredibly important for your health

1145
00:52:17,733 --> 00:52:20,973
Speaker 2: that you just make it part of your goals in

1146
00:52:21,053 --> 00:52:23,693
Speaker 2: life to be just an incredibly good sleeper. And to

1147
00:52:23,773 --> 00:52:27,053
Speaker 2: that end, you'd get blackout curtains, you make sure it's

1148
00:52:27,093 --> 00:52:30,133
Speaker 2: a quiet area, as you say, Doreen, you make sure

1149
00:52:30,133 --> 00:52:31,813
Speaker 2: the temperature is right in your room. I think eighteen

1150
00:52:31,813 --> 00:52:36,173
Speaker 2: degrees is the right right amount, But there might be

1151
00:52:36,213 --> 00:52:38,172
Speaker 2: another side that looks like that. You're on Tyler where

1152
00:52:38,173 --> 00:52:40,652
Speaker 2: you focus so much on your sleep that you're going

1153
00:52:40,693 --> 00:52:42,573
Speaker 2: to bed with your watch on and you're freaking out

1154
00:52:42,613 --> 00:52:44,893
Speaker 2: and you're stressed out that you're not getting enough deep sleep,

1155
00:52:44,893 --> 00:52:46,933
Speaker 2: that you're in the wrong sleep zone, and it ends

1156
00:52:47,013 --> 00:52:48,373
Speaker 2: up being completely couptain or jew.

1157
00:52:48,333 --> 00:52:51,573
Speaker 3: It on p Yeah, but Doreen, I mean, take my

1158
00:52:51,613 --> 00:52:53,613
Speaker 3: head off to your husband who's obviously become a sleep

1159
00:52:53,693 --> 00:52:57,973
Speaker 3: champion and is acing it, and hopefully you'll beat them

1160
00:52:57,973 --> 00:53:02,013
Speaker 3: on a few occasions as well. Thank you, Thanks Doraine.

1161
00:53:02,053 --> 00:53:05,613
Speaker 2: Sleep Tight sleep type one hundred and eighty ten eighty

1162
00:53:05,693 --> 00:53:07,093
Speaker 2: is the number to call. We're getting a lot of

1163
00:53:07,093 --> 00:53:10,133
Speaker 2: ticks about the old sleep ad. Guys, just bloody sleep

1164
00:53:10,173 --> 00:53:12,933
Speaker 2: wearing a smart watch, et cetera will only increase your

1165
00:53:12,933 --> 00:53:13,933
Speaker 2: bloody anxiety.

1166
00:53:14,093 --> 00:53:14,933
Speaker 3: Yep, I agree.

1167
00:53:15,093 --> 00:53:17,133
Speaker 2: Hopefully text me back if I read that in the

1168
00:53:17,973 --> 00:53:22,133
Speaker 2: voice that you intended it text to ending in twenty six. Yeah, guys,

1169
00:53:22,133 --> 00:53:25,333
Speaker 2: just bloody sleep wearing smart watch eccentual will only increase

1170
00:53:25,373 --> 00:53:26,772
Speaker 2: your bloody anxiety.

1171
00:53:27,373 --> 00:53:31,973
Speaker 3: Nicely read. Guys, those sleep apps are b es. Just

1172
00:53:32,053 --> 00:53:35,253
Speaker 3: go to sleep too much stressing on the daily results

1173
00:53:35,253 --> 00:53:36,213
Speaker 3: of how you sleep.

1174
00:53:36,533 --> 00:53:38,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's also you know, as Dorian says, it's

1175
00:53:39,373 --> 00:53:42,093
Speaker 2: sort of a can be a competition thing. But also

1176
00:53:43,533 --> 00:53:46,413
Speaker 2: so every morning because I was down staying with my

1177
00:53:46,533 --> 00:53:49,933
Speaker 2: dad Grant, New Zealander down there in Tonedin, and he

1178
00:53:50,453 --> 00:53:53,213
Speaker 2: was monitoring his sleep and I thought that's interesting, so

1179
00:53:53,253 --> 00:53:55,133
Speaker 2: we started talking about it. Now every morning I get

1180
00:53:55,213 --> 00:53:57,333
Speaker 2: up and I text my dad with what my sleep

1181
00:53:57,373 --> 00:54:00,413
Speaker 2: results were, and then we discussed them. Yeah, that's interesting.

1182
00:54:01,013 --> 00:54:03,813
Speaker 3: There's competition. Competition is good even for sleep. I wait,

1183
00:54:03,893 --> 00:54:06,413
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It's

1184
00:54:06,453 --> 00:54:09,292
Speaker 3: twenty four pasts two? Do you use these sleep acts?

1185
00:54:09,333 --> 00:54:10,652
Speaker 3: Really keen to hear from you? And if you do,

1186
00:54:10,733 --> 00:54:11,373
Speaker 3: how is it going?

1187
00:54:15,813 --> 00:54:19,493
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred eighty

1188
00:54:19,533 --> 00:54:20,893
Speaker 1: ten eighty on news talks.

1189
00:54:20,893 --> 00:54:23,293
Speaker 3: I'd be very good afternoon to you. It is twenty

1190
00:54:23,413 --> 00:54:25,693
Speaker 3: six past when we're talking about sleep ats. Do you

1191
00:54:25,813 --> 00:54:28,133
Speaker 3: use them? And if you do use them, are they helpful?

1192
00:54:28,253 --> 00:54:29,933
Speaker 3: Or did you start using them and decide you were

1193
00:54:29,933 --> 00:54:32,253
Speaker 3: getting too stressed and ditch them all? Eight hundred eighty

1194
00:54:32,253 --> 00:54:33,493
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call.

1195
00:54:34,653 --> 00:54:35,453
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

1196
00:54:35,653 --> 00:54:40,453
Speaker 18: Susie, Oh, Kyota, this Matt or Tyler.

1197
00:54:40,853 --> 00:54:45,373
Speaker 2: It's both Susie, both Matt and Tyler both ah Kyota.

1198
00:54:45,933 --> 00:54:50,053
Speaker 18: Yeah, I just wanted to say that, no, get rid

1199
00:54:50,133 --> 00:54:53,533
Speaker 18: of your get rid of screens all that in your bedroom.

1200
00:54:53,653 --> 00:54:57,813
Speaker 18: Your bedroom should only be about sixteen to eighteen degrees

1201
00:54:58,053 --> 00:54:59,973
Speaker 18: and you've got to have a comfortable.

1202
00:54:59,453 --> 00:55:00,212
Speaker 5: Bedroom, like.

1203
00:55:03,093 --> 00:55:08,693
Speaker 18: Imperative that you've got somewhere comfy, clean and cozy sleep.

1204
00:55:09,413 --> 00:55:12,813
Speaker 18: The other thing is it depends on your age. Like

1205
00:55:14,213 --> 00:55:17,253
Speaker 18: when you're when your babies, you need a lot of sleep.

1206
00:55:17,293 --> 00:55:20,133
Speaker 18: When you're teenagers, you need a lot of sleep. You know,

1207
00:55:20,293 --> 00:55:24,893
Speaker 18: up until you're about twenty two twenty three, you need

1208
00:55:25,093 --> 00:55:27,652
Speaker 18: a lot more sleep because you're still growing and your

1209
00:55:28,013 --> 00:55:32,413
Speaker 18: brain's developing. Then after that the best thing is to

1210
00:55:32,413 --> 00:55:36,093
Speaker 18: get into a rhythm and sort of do rituals sort

1211
00:55:36,133 --> 00:55:38,933
Speaker 18: of before you go to bed. So it might be

1212
00:55:39,413 --> 00:55:43,133
Speaker 18: just turning off your screens two hours before you plan

1213
00:55:43,213 --> 00:55:47,533
Speaker 18: to go to sleep and just quietly reading or listening

1214
00:55:47,533 --> 00:55:51,893
Speaker 18: to some nice music or The other thing is what

1215
00:55:51,933 --> 00:55:55,173
Speaker 18: you eat affects how your sleep. Stuff you're eating hot

1216
00:55:55,333 --> 00:55:59,333
Speaker 18: and spite the food, Chinese Asian food that ain't going

1217
00:55:59,413 --> 00:56:00,733
Speaker 18: to help go to sleep.

1218
00:56:01,013 --> 00:56:01,253
Speaker 4: Do you know?

1219
00:56:01,613 --> 00:56:03,813
Speaker 2: So there's there's ways you can get to sleep. Obviously,

1220
00:56:03,853 --> 00:56:06,253
Speaker 2: all those things you're suggesting, they're fantastic Susie. So you

1221
00:56:06,253 --> 00:56:07,973
Speaker 2: don't want to know the details of your sleep you

1222
00:56:08,613 --> 00:56:11,772
Speaker 2: you don't believe that there's a difference between ARI.

1223
00:56:12,893 --> 00:56:17,093
Speaker 18: So because I don't believe there's a difference between ARAM

1224
00:56:18,093 --> 00:56:23,053
Speaker 18: and your sleep patterns. But I think of your concert

1225
00:56:23,093 --> 00:56:26,373
Speaker 18: focusing on your apps and you're wearing your watches and

1226
00:56:26,413 --> 00:56:28,893
Speaker 18: you've got yourself so next to your bed and daddy,

1227
00:56:28,973 --> 00:56:31,533
Speaker 18: daddy do that you ain't going to sleep because you're

1228
00:56:31,573 --> 00:56:34,692
Speaker 18: stressing out about what that's going to do, Whereas you're

1229
00:56:34,693 --> 00:56:37,813
Speaker 18: better off just go to sleep when you're tired.

1230
00:56:38,813 --> 00:56:40,693
Speaker 2: Thanks you for your call, Susie. It was seemed to

1231
00:56:40,733 --> 00:56:43,493
Speaker 2: be the case for Tyler. But I think personally, if

1232
00:56:43,493 --> 00:56:45,013
Speaker 2: you find out that you've had seven and a half

1233
00:56:45,013 --> 00:56:48,013
Speaker 2: hour sleep, right, and then you find out that that

1234
00:56:48,373 --> 00:56:50,373
Speaker 2: are such a small percentage of it was deep sleep,

1235
00:56:50,893 --> 00:56:53,053
Speaker 2: and then you realize that that's why you're still tired,

1236
00:56:53,093 --> 00:56:57,652
Speaker 2: Because when you have the wrong kind of sleep, then

1237
00:56:57,973 --> 00:56:59,893
Speaker 2: you might be experiencing why am I so tired in

1238
00:56:59,893 --> 00:57:02,693
Speaker 2: the day, or why am I cognitively not up to

1239
00:57:02,773 --> 00:57:05,333
Speaker 2: scratch day? And because you haven't had enough rim sleep,

1240
00:57:05,533 --> 00:57:08,733
Speaker 2: which is good for the cognitive side, and restorative sleep

1241
00:57:09,333 --> 00:57:11,413
Speaker 2: is the deep sleep, right, yeah, so you might have

1242
00:57:11,453 --> 00:57:15,293
Speaker 2: been asleep for seven hours, but you've just had this

1243
00:57:15,453 --> 00:57:17,973
Speaker 2: very surface level sleep. Isn't that interesting information to know?

1244
00:57:18,173 --> 00:57:19,973
Speaker 2: I chat so you could change your habit.

1245
00:57:20,133 --> 00:57:22,213
Speaker 3: But I'm willing to say that I'm a bit of

1246
00:57:22,253 --> 00:57:24,093
Speaker 3: a widow on this. And maybe I stress out too

1247
00:57:24,133 --> 00:57:26,493
Speaker 3: much about sleep because I've always been a terrible sleeper.

1248
00:57:27,133 --> 00:57:28,973
Speaker 3: But I just thought when I in the last time

1249
00:57:28,973 --> 00:57:31,933
Speaker 3: I checked, it was a sleep quality score of sixty

1250
00:57:31,933 --> 00:57:34,493
Speaker 3: seven percent. And that's what I've seen day in and

1251
00:57:34,573 --> 00:57:36,653
Speaker 3: day out. And I don't know for some reason that

1252
00:57:36,693 --> 00:57:39,093
Speaker 3: when I went to bed and started to try to

1253
00:57:39,093 --> 00:57:40,653
Speaker 3: get to sleep, I think, Man, I hope I get

1254
00:57:40,693 --> 00:57:43,173
Speaker 3: to see any today. Hope I actually get a good

1255
00:57:43,253 --> 00:57:45,253
Speaker 3: night's sleep. And I never did, so I just got

1256
00:57:45,293 --> 00:57:47,573
Speaker 3: rid of it. But I'm willing to admit that I

1257
00:57:47,653 --> 00:57:49,013
Speaker 3: might be a bit of a widow on this. Oh,

1258
00:57:49,013 --> 00:57:50,973
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

1259
00:57:50,973 --> 00:57:53,253
Speaker 3: call if you use the sleep apps. Love to hear

1260
00:57:53,253 --> 00:57:55,093
Speaker 3: from you haven't made a big difference in your life.

1261
00:57:55,093 --> 00:57:56,093
Speaker 3: It does for a lot of people.

1262
00:57:56,133 --> 00:57:59,733
Speaker 2: Absolutely, forget the apps, forget the watches, says this text.

1263
00:57:59,933 --> 00:58:03,293
Speaker 2: I infuse medical cannabis with olive oil. Sleep like a baby. Now,

1264
00:58:03,533 --> 00:58:07,853
Speaker 2: plenty of deep and ram sleep too. So I guess

1265
00:58:07,853 --> 00:58:10,533
Speaker 2: you fuse medical cannabis with olive oil then take it.

1266
00:58:10,573 --> 00:58:12,453
Speaker 2: You just don't infuse it upstairs and leave it up

1267
00:58:12,493 --> 00:58:12,693
Speaker 2: the end.

1268
00:58:12,813 --> 00:58:15,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it works for a lot of people though. Sorry. Here,

1269
00:58:16,093 --> 00:58:17,933
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1270
00:58:17,973 --> 00:58:20,013
Speaker 3: to call. Do you use the sleep apps? And are

1271
00:58:20,053 --> 00:58:20,613
Speaker 3: they helping you?

1272
00:58:20,933 --> 00:58:22,933
Speaker 2: And I've got a question for you, yep, how to

1273
00:58:22,973 --> 00:58:27,413
Speaker 2: dolphins sleep when they're in the water without just drowning?

1274
00:58:27,533 --> 00:58:28,093
Speaker 3: Great question.

1275
00:58:28,133 --> 00:58:29,773
Speaker 2: I'm going to say they don't sleep, but if you

1276
00:58:29,813 --> 00:58:31,933
Speaker 2: think you know, nine two ninety two is the text number.

1277
00:58:31,933 --> 00:58:33,453
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen. We are talking about the

1300
00:59:58,813 --> 01:00:01,253
Speaker 3: use of sleep apps. A heck of a lot of

1301
01:00:01,253 --> 01:00:03,853
Speaker 3: people have been using those particular apps, whether it's your

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1303
01:00:08,013 --> 01:00:10,293
Speaker 3: So ort last year shows just over thirty five percent

1304
01:00:10,333 --> 01:00:12,613
Speaker 3: of Americans use some sort of sleep device and in

1305
01:00:12,653 --> 01:00:15,493
Speaker 3: New Zealand a study by sleep. He had said, ninety

1306
01:00:15,653 --> 01:00:19,613
Speaker 3: seven percent of us have issues with sleep, So are

1307
01:00:19,653 --> 01:00:21,253
Speaker 3: you using them? And if you are using them, is

1308
01:00:21,293 --> 01:00:22,693
Speaker 3: it making a difference? So eight one hundred and eighty

1309
01:00:22,733 --> 01:00:23,373
Speaker 3: ten eighty.

1310
01:00:24,253 --> 01:00:27,053
Speaker 2: As a lot of people have texted through dolphins sleep

1311
01:00:27,253 --> 01:00:29,773
Speaker 2: using I said, how do dolphins sleep? Because I for

1312
01:00:29,973 --> 01:00:32,973
Speaker 2: you to think about this phages. Don't dolphins just when

1313
01:00:32,973 --> 01:00:36,013
Speaker 2: they go to sleep rock over and drown up their blowhole?

1314
01:00:36,733 --> 01:00:38,893
Speaker 2: But no, dolphins do this really weird thing. And it's

1315
01:00:38,933 --> 01:00:44,493
Speaker 2: not too far from the the hit television show what's

1316
01:00:44,533 --> 01:00:47,853
Speaker 2: it called? Where their body are going into work and

1317
01:00:47,893 --> 01:00:49,733
Speaker 2: they get their brains are raised and my god, it's

1318
01:00:49,973 --> 01:00:55,573
Speaker 2: my mind. Anyway, Dolphins sleep using a unique method called

1319
01:00:55,933 --> 01:00:59,813
Speaker 2: unitheric low wave sleep. So basically what happens is one

1320
01:00:59,933 --> 01:01:02,013
Speaker 2: half of their brain goes to sleep and the other

1321
01:01:02,093 --> 01:01:05,653
Speaker 2: half is awake and then they swap over. That is yes,

1322
01:01:05,853 --> 01:01:10,333
Speaker 2: So essentially you've got a situation some scientists believe where

1323
01:01:10,653 --> 01:01:15,973
Speaker 2: there's two personalities inhabiting inhabiting one dolphins, so one you know,

1324
01:01:16,053 --> 01:01:18,013
Speaker 2: so you wake up in the in the morning. Have

1325
01:01:18,053 --> 01:01:18,933
Speaker 2: you got the name of that show?

1326
01:01:19,293 --> 01:01:21,573
Speaker 3: I'm still trying to look for it annoying.

1327
01:01:21,173 --> 01:01:23,453
Speaker 2: Me that I've forgotten. That's a great show Segregation. No,

1328
01:01:23,773 --> 01:01:25,933
Speaker 2: someone will tell me on nineteen nineteen. It's a very

1329
01:01:26,053 --> 01:01:30,293
Speaker 2: very very popular show on Apple TV. But so yeah,

1330
01:01:30,293 --> 01:01:32,853
Speaker 2: because you wake up and you go, well, where am I?

1331
01:01:32,853 --> 01:01:34,813
Speaker 3: I wish we could do that Severance. I just looked

1332
01:01:34,813 --> 01:01:35,093
Speaker 3: it up.

1333
01:01:35,213 --> 01:01:39,013
Speaker 2: Severance. Yeah, you know, have you seen Severance? No, then

1334
01:01:39,013 --> 01:01:40,653
Speaker 2: you wouldn't say you wish you could do it, because

1335
01:01:40,693 --> 01:01:43,133
Speaker 2: you would wake up and you'd go, my body's been

1336
01:01:43,133 --> 01:01:44,653
Speaker 2: walking around? Why am I here? What have I been

1337
01:01:44,733 --> 01:01:47,213
Speaker 2: up to? I've got a searing hangover? Did my other

1338
01:01:47,253 --> 01:01:48,413
Speaker 2: half take me out last night?

1339
01:01:48,853 --> 01:01:49,813
Speaker 3: I'm got to give it a watch.

1340
01:01:50,053 --> 01:01:52,733
Speaker 2: So yeah, So so the dolphin keeps swimming around, well,

1341
01:01:52,773 --> 01:01:54,333
Speaker 2: one one half of its brain sleeps.

1342
01:01:54,333 --> 01:01:56,693
Speaker 3: Clever clogs dolphins. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty

1343
01:01:56,733 --> 01:01:58,893
Speaker 3: is the number to call if you use a sleep app.

1344
01:01:59,013 --> 01:02:01,373
Speaker 3: I love to hear from you if it's making a difference.

1345
01:02:01,413 --> 01:02:02,933
Speaker 3: Plenty of texts coming through, But let's go to the

1346
01:02:02,973 --> 01:02:06,213
Speaker 3: phones Andrew, you're you're tracking yourself.

1347
01:02:07,533 --> 01:02:09,533
Speaker 23: I go, yeah, so you sighted a study was a

1348
01:02:09,653 --> 01:02:12,973
Speaker 23: ninety seven percent of people don't get adequate sleep. If

1349
01:02:12,973 --> 01:02:15,733
Speaker 23: this using my garment and watch is something like it.

1350
01:02:15,853 --> 01:02:18,933
Speaker 23: They'll tell you you're getting getting insufficient sleep. So I wear

1351
01:02:18,973 --> 01:02:21,653
Speaker 23: a garment instinct and I've done it for about five

1352
01:02:21,773 --> 01:02:24,653
Speaker 23: years now, and it's it's really a useful tool, but

1353
01:02:24,773 --> 01:02:28,053
Speaker 23: not for tracking sleep. It'll one of time tell you

1354
01:02:28,053 --> 01:02:30,853
Speaker 23: you do not sleep well and it just stresses you out,

1355
01:02:30,893 --> 01:02:34,413
Speaker 23: so ironically attracts your stress levels as well. I can't

1356
01:02:34,413 --> 01:02:37,053
Speaker 23: see my stress go up when I couldn't get enough sleep,

1357
01:02:37,253 --> 01:02:40,413
Speaker 23: but a lot of time feeling really good, but it'd

1358
01:02:40,453 --> 01:02:43,893
Speaker 23: be like your sleep was insufficient. It's i'd say accurate

1359
01:02:43,933 --> 01:02:46,653
Speaker 23: for treat tracking the times you wake up and go

1360
01:02:46,773 --> 01:02:49,333
Speaker 23: to sleep, but that's about it. I wouldn't I wouldn't

1361
01:02:50,133 --> 01:02:52,973
Speaker 23: take the information off the watch too seriously.

1362
01:02:53,853 --> 01:02:57,573
Speaker 2: Yes, So basically, well, I'm not sure exactly what the garment,

1363
01:02:57,613 --> 01:03:00,093
Speaker 2: but i know for an Apple what it's what it's

1364
01:03:00,133 --> 01:03:06,213
Speaker 2: tracking on you as temperature, skin, temperature, activity like some motion,

1365
01:03:06,373 --> 01:03:09,173
Speaker 2: so it seems if you're completely still that you're asleep

1366
01:03:09,493 --> 01:03:12,813
Speaker 2: over a period of time, and heart rate. So that

1367
01:03:12,973 --> 01:03:15,413
Speaker 2: I think those are the only three, Am I right?

1368
01:03:15,453 --> 01:03:18,813
Speaker 2: They're Andrew? Those are the only three parameters that they

1369
01:03:18,933 --> 01:03:23,013
Speaker 2: used and from that and from that they make from

1370
01:03:23,013 --> 01:03:25,293
Speaker 2: that they make quite a few assumptions, don't they.

1371
01:03:26,333 --> 01:03:28,853
Speaker 23: Yes, they do. I I would say it's only accurate

1372
01:03:28,893 --> 01:03:32,333
Speaker 23: by my experience for tracking your wake up and sleeping hours.

1373
01:03:32,413 --> 01:03:35,533
Speaker 23: Like I used to be a semi professional athlete, and

1374
01:03:35,573 --> 01:03:37,973
Speaker 23: I took my sleep very seriously, and I could tell

1375
01:03:38,013 --> 01:03:41,013
Speaker 23: that I would get a full night sleep of solid,

1376
01:03:41,093 --> 01:03:43,573
Speaker 23: high quality sleep. I'd wake up and it's got this

1377
01:03:43,613 --> 01:03:46,573
Speaker 23: as also got this function that's got it's called a

1378
01:03:46,573 --> 01:03:49,333
Speaker 23: body battery. So tell you how much energy you've got,

1379
01:03:49,493 --> 01:03:52,653
Speaker 23: and it would say, I haven't. You haven't had quality

1380
01:03:52,653 --> 01:03:55,053
Speaker 23: of sleep, and your body battery is only yet forty

1381
01:03:55,053 --> 01:03:58,133
Speaker 23: eight percent. To go the whole day with forty eight

1382
01:03:58,173 --> 01:04:00,413
Speaker 23: per body battery and then it get to three o'clock

1383
01:04:00,453 --> 01:04:02,373
Speaker 23: and it was zero. It's like, am I dad, I'm

1384
01:04:02,413 --> 01:04:02,933
Speaker 23: still alive.

1385
01:04:02,973 --> 01:04:04,133
Speaker 7: My body battery is zero.

1386
01:04:04,453 --> 01:04:05,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so good.

1387
01:04:06,053 --> 01:04:08,333
Speaker 23: So you're not entirely accurate.

1388
01:04:08,413 --> 01:04:11,413
Speaker 3: There goes Yeah. Yeah, Andrew, thank you very much for

1389
01:04:11,453 --> 01:04:15,093
Speaker 3: giving us a buzz. I mean the garment. I don't

1390
01:04:15,093 --> 01:04:17,293
Speaker 3: know what the garment measures. But when I was doing

1391
01:04:17,333 --> 01:04:18,933
Speaker 3: the air boy as you say, the ram and the

1392
01:04:18,973 --> 01:04:20,813
Speaker 3: deep I think they called it core sleep, and then

1393
01:04:20,813 --> 01:04:23,133
Speaker 3: the light sleep, so light sleep doesn't. You don't really

1394
01:04:23,133 --> 01:04:25,333
Speaker 3: get much from the light sleep, right, is that right?

1395
01:04:25,893 --> 01:04:28,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to spend a certain amount of time

1396
01:04:28,253 --> 01:04:31,133
Speaker 2: in RAM apparently because rams, when you're dreaming, your eyes

1397
01:04:31,173 --> 01:04:33,653
Speaker 2: are moving around, and you want to spend a certain

1398
01:04:33,693 --> 01:04:36,133
Speaker 2: amount of time and deep sleep. I'll just get those

1399
01:04:36,133 --> 01:04:39,693
Speaker 2: percentages up. There's a wake, which is a type of

1400
01:04:39,693 --> 01:04:40,173
Speaker 2: non sleep.

1401
01:04:40,373 --> 01:04:42,373
Speaker 3: I've heard of awake, yeap heard of awake.

1402
01:04:42,413 --> 01:04:45,413
Speaker 2: There's rim, which is not just a band but also

1403
01:04:45,413 --> 01:04:50,173
Speaker 2: a rapid eye movement dream rich that supports memory and emotion.

1404
01:04:50,493 --> 01:04:54,333
Speaker 2: Apparently you've got core sleep where your heart rate and

1405
01:04:54,373 --> 01:04:57,573
Speaker 2: breathing slow, but you're still easy to rouse. And then

1406
01:04:57,573 --> 01:05:00,493
Speaker 2: there's deep and this stuff's real good. So that's slow

1407
01:05:00,533 --> 01:05:04,653
Speaker 2: wave sleep tied to physical restoration, hormone release, and immune support.

1408
01:05:04,813 --> 01:05:07,173
Speaker 2: So you need about ten to fifteen percent of your

1409
01:05:07,253 --> 01:05:10,213
Speaker 2: sleep time out of your what however long you're sleeping

1410
01:05:10,213 --> 01:05:13,213
Speaker 2: to be deep for the ideal situation. But the reason

1411
01:05:13,253 --> 01:05:14,973
Speaker 2: why I think that there might be some truth in

1412
01:05:15,013 --> 01:05:18,213
Speaker 2: this because I was fast asleep having this very weird dream,

1413
01:05:18,773 --> 01:05:21,533
Speaker 2: and then I woke up in a start because my

1414
01:05:21,613 --> 01:05:23,613
Speaker 2: partner had banged until she got up early to go

1415
01:05:23,653 --> 01:05:26,453
Speaker 2: to the gym and she banged into my feet and

1416
01:05:26,493 --> 01:05:28,533
Speaker 2: I woke up. And so when I looked at the app,

1417
01:05:28,573 --> 01:05:31,973
Speaker 2: it went from me being an ram at that point

1418
01:05:31,973 --> 01:05:34,573
Speaker 2: to a massive spike to being woken up. Yeah, so

1419
01:05:35,813 --> 01:05:37,653
Speaker 2: for me, at least on that occasion, it proved that

1420
01:05:37,693 --> 01:05:40,293
Speaker 2: it knew I was in the dreaming state when I

1421
01:05:40,333 --> 01:05:42,653
Speaker 2: was woken up, as opposed to the deep state or

1422
01:05:42,693 --> 01:05:44,013
Speaker 2: the core state.

1423
01:05:44,253 --> 01:05:46,253
Speaker 3: And they're only getting better those apps, like eight, one

1424
01:05:46,293 --> 01:05:48,093
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call

1425
01:05:48,133 --> 01:05:49,973
Speaker 3: if you use the sleep app? Is it making a

1426
01:05:49,973 --> 01:05:52,133
Speaker 3: big difference to your life? Do you like to dive

1427
01:05:52,213 --> 01:05:54,813
Speaker 3: into that data? And if you see that you've had

1428
01:05:54,853 --> 01:05:57,453
Speaker 3: a poor night's sleep, do you make do you change

1429
01:05:57,493 --> 01:05:59,693
Speaker 3: your day to make sure that you're going to get

1430
01:05:59,693 --> 01:06:02,053
Speaker 3: the best out of being a little bit sleep deprived? Really?

1431
01:06:02,093 --> 01:06:03,573
Speaker 3: Can you hear from you? Nine two ninety two is

1432
01:06:03,613 --> 01:06:04,253
Speaker 3: the text number.

1433
01:06:04,293 --> 01:06:07,533
Speaker 2: And this person is suggesting that we all drink ourselves

1434
01:06:07,533 --> 01:06:09,933
Speaker 2: to sleep. Yeah, we'll talk about that.

1435
01:06:09,933 --> 01:06:12,933
Speaker 1: Good on Hot Toddy, have a chat with the lads

1436
01:06:13,053 --> 01:06:17,933
Speaker 1: on eighty eighty Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

1437
01:06:17,973 --> 01:06:20,533
Speaker 3: They'd be very good afternoons you seventeen past three and

1438
01:06:20,533 --> 01:06:22,493
Speaker 3: we're talking about the use of sleep at so many

1439
01:06:22,573 --> 01:06:24,613
Speaker 3: people have using them. If you're using them, is it

1440
01:06:24,653 --> 01:06:27,333
Speaker 3: actually helping you to get a good night's sleep or

1441
01:06:27,413 --> 01:06:29,613
Speaker 3: to dig down in some of that data anyway, Oh,

1442
01:06:29,613 --> 01:06:31,573
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call.

1443
01:06:31,933 --> 01:06:36,133
Speaker 2: So a lot of people are saying that that the

1444
01:06:36,253 --> 01:06:39,053
Speaker 2: only way to get to sleep is drinking alcohol, smashing

1445
01:06:39,253 --> 01:06:41,533
Speaker 2: a red wine before bed or a hot tidy. A

1446
01:06:41,533 --> 01:06:43,733
Speaker 2: lot of people saying I only sleep after a whiskey.

1447
01:06:44,133 --> 01:06:48,293
Speaker 2: But that that's the interesting thing because because if you've

1448
01:06:48,293 --> 01:06:52,253
Speaker 2: been drinking, you only get certain types of sleep. You

1449
01:06:52,253 --> 01:06:54,733
Speaker 2: don't ever get into the fully deep and relaxed sleep,

1450
01:06:54,773 --> 01:06:57,093
Speaker 2: and you don't get very many ari much very ari

1451
01:06:57,213 --> 01:06:59,253
Speaker 2: in sleep, so you can be asleep for and this

1452
01:06:59,333 --> 01:07:00,813
Speaker 2: is why people when they've had a night out on

1453
01:07:00,853 --> 01:07:04,053
Speaker 2: the town, they spend the whole next day really tired.

1454
01:07:04,373 --> 01:07:06,213
Speaker 2: No matter how dark the curtains are, no how do

1455
01:07:06,333 --> 01:07:08,893
Speaker 2: they sleep in that, they're still feeling very tired, exhausted,

1456
01:07:09,173 --> 01:07:12,493
Speaker 2: because because the alcohol stops you getting to the actual

1457
01:07:12,533 --> 01:07:13,613
Speaker 2: sleep that you need to get to.

1458
01:07:14,333 --> 01:07:17,333
Speaker 3: And there is science that even one drink causes a

1459
01:07:17,333 --> 01:07:20,013
Speaker 3: bit of a difference to that deep sleep right. I

1460
01:07:20,053 --> 01:07:22,173
Speaker 3: have heard people talking about that that they measure it

1461
01:07:22,253 --> 01:07:24,373
Speaker 3: on these apps and they have one beer or one

1462
01:07:24,373 --> 01:07:26,933
Speaker 3: wine before beard and they can instantly see a difference

1463
01:07:26,933 --> 01:07:29,053
Speaker 3: when they wake up in the morning. Oh eight, one

1464
01:07:29,093 --> 01:07:31,173
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1465
01:07:31,533 --> 01:07:36,493
Speaker 2: Yeah. So alcohol reduces your deep sleep, your ram sleep basically,

1466
01:07:36,533 --> 01:07:39,813
Speaker 2: that's what it does. And because it suppresses the malatonin. Also,

1467
01:07:39,893 --> 01:07:41,373
Speaker 2: you know, you get a bit of sugar in the system.

1468
01:07:41,373 --> 01:07:42,853
Speaker 2: So if you have a you know, you have a

1469
01:07:42,853 --> 01:07:45,933
Speaker 2: few wines before bed, then you get that wide awake

1470
01:07:45,973 --> 01:07:49,133
Speaker 2: at three am thing, which is awful in my experience.

1471
01:07:49,333 --> 01:07:51,293
Speaker 2: So even if you knock yourself out cold, even if

1472
01:07:51,333 --> 01:07:54,893
Speaker 2: you drink so much whiskey that you're completely unconscious for

1473
01:07:55,573 --> 01:07:58,453
Speaker 2: eight hours. Yeah, this is going to shock everyone. And

1474
01:07:58,453 --> 01:08:01,613
Speaker 2: I say this, it's not a particularly healthy sleep really, yep.

1475
01:08:01,933 --> 01:08:03,853
Speaker 2: I mean you can always guarantee yourself going to sleep.

1476
01:08:04,013 --> 01:08:05,693
Speaker 2: If you drink enough whiskey, gin.

1477
01:08:05,693 --> 01:08:07,293
Speaker 3: Or whatever, you'll be unconscious.

1478
01:08:07,333 --> 01:08:10,133
Speaker 2: You'll be unconscious, yeah, yeah, but you might not be

1479
01:08:10,173 --> 01:08:14,333
Speaker 2: having that beautiful restorative sleep that we all crave. Tony,

1480
01:08:14,413 --> 01:08:17,173
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Tony.

1481
01:08:17,733 --> 01:08:19,333
Speaker 10: You just touched on something very interesting.

1482
01:08:19,532 --> 01:08:19,772
Speaker 9: Yep.

1483
01:08:20,333 --> 01:08:20,732
Speaker 14: Yeah, there.

1484
01:08:20,813 --> 01:08:24,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you go tony, So, yeah, you just.

1485
01:08:24,532 --> 01:08:26,812
Speaker 10: Touched on something very interesting. I'm a Type one diabetic.

1486
01:08:27,333 --> 01:08:31,013
Speaker 10: I use a and I monitor my sugar levels to

1487
01:08:31,093 --> 01:08:32,772
Speaker 10: know how good my sleep's going to be as well.

1488
01:08:33,053 --> 01:08:35,692
Speaker 10: But I wear a ring on my finger that does

1489
01:08:35,732 --> 01:08:38,253
Speaker 10: all the measurements that I need. I don't like wearing

1490
01:08:38,253 --> 01:08:40,933
Speaker 10: a watch to bed because of the notifications and the

1491
01:08:40,933 --> 01:08:44,133
Speaker 10: weight on the wrist, so I switched over to using

1492
01:08:44,213 --> 01:08:48,173
Speaker 10: the biometric rings. I traveled to China last year and

1493
01:08:48,452 --> 01:08:50,293
Speaker 10: looked at a lot of different types that were on

1494
01:08:50,293 --> 01:08:54,412
Speaker 10: the market, and being a Type one diabetic, I noticed

1495
01:08:54,452 --> 01:08:56,612
Speaker 10: my sleep is much better when my sugars are lower.

1496
01:08:56,772 --> 01:08:59,692
Speaker 10: So if I've kept my sugars under control and my

1497
01:08:59,812 --> 01:09:02,732
Speaker 10: range is between three and seven, I'll sleep a lot

1498
01:09:02,812 --> 01:09:06,813
Speaker 10: deeper and a lot longer. And when you talk about alcohol,

1499
01:09:07,213 --> 01:09:09,612
Speaker 10: your insulin takes care of the alcohol first and the

1500
01:09:09,612 --> 01:09:12,572
Speaker 10: sugar later, so it's a longer, a longer stream that

1501
01:09:12,612 --> 01:09:14,652
Speaker 10: you're going to be pumping into under your body, and

1502
01:09:14,692 --> 01:09:16,213
Speaker 10: you're going to be too high to actually get that

1503
01:09:16,532 --> 01:09:20,052
Speaker 10: very deep sleep. I can get up to four hours

1504
01:09:20,053 --> 01:09:23,293
Speaker 10: of deep sleep if my sugar levels are between three

1505
01:09:23,293 --> 01:09:24,293
Speaker 10: and seven.

1506
01:09:24,692 --> 01:09:27,932
Speaker 2: Wow, So you get four hours of deep sleep. That's

1507
01:09:27,973 --> 01:09:28,253
Speaker 2: a lot.

1508
01:09:28,492 --> 01:09:30,652
Speaker 10: Yeah, so last night I can read on my thing

1509
01:09:30,652 --> 01:09:32,812
Speaker 10: at the moment, I got eight hours and five minutes

1510
01:09:32,812 --> 01:09:35,572
Speaker 10: and four hours and two of that with deep two

1511
01:09:35,652 --> 01:09:39,053
Speaker 10: hours thirty we're light. The rest was ram and I

1512
01:09:39,053 --> 01:09:41,892
Speaker 10: woke up once And you're right, it does track those

1513
01:09:41,933 --> 01:09:44,772
Speaker 10: wake up times very well. Yes, So wear a ring

1514
01:09:44,812 --> 01:09:47,173
Speaker 10: on your finger rather than a watch around your watch

1515
01:09:47,213 --> 01:09:48,012
Speaker 10: around your wrist.

1516
01:09:47,933 --> 01:09:48,492
Speaker 1: As much better.

1517
01:09:48,572 --> 01:09:50,213
Speaker 2: How big are these rings, Tony.

1518
01:09:51,853 --> 01:09:54,053
Speaker 10: The same size as your wedding ring, right, so they're just.

1519
01:09:53,973 --> 01:09:55,892
Speaker 2: A little ring like that. And does it just measure

1520
01:09:55,933 --> 01:10:00,412
Speaker 2: the same things heartbeat, skin temperature.

1521
01:10:00,053 --> 01:10:03,412
Speaker 10: Heart beat, but it also does it does heartbeat quality.

1522
01:10:04,093 --> 01:10:07,333
Speaker 10: That was about the difference between your gap between your heartbeats.

1523
01:10:07,732 --> 01:10:08,293
Speaker 20: I get sixty.

1524
01:10:08,333 --> 01:10:09,732
Speaker 10: It beats a minute, but it may be fit up

1525
01:10:09,732 --> 01:10:12,372
Speaker 10: a and then slow, so it tells heartbeat quality. It

1526
01:10:12,372 --> 01:10:14,972
Speaker 10: also does two levels and in your blood out oxygen

1527
01:10:16,853 --> 01:10:19,812
Speaker 10: some of the and there's there's these These are going

1528
01:10:19,853 --> 01:10:23,372
Speaker 10: to become quite a big part of our livelihoods, particularly

1529
01:10:23,452 --> 01:10:26,492
Speaker 10: with the cost of them coming down there Aura rings

1530
01:10:26,492 --> 01:10:28,213
Speaker 10: and things like that, and the Samsung rings are like

1531
01:10:28,253 --> 01:10:31,053
Speaker 10: six seven nine hundred bucks, so one's coming at the

1532
01:10:31,053 --> 01:10:32,972
Speaker 10: market now which are under too, which are under two

1533
01:10:32,973 --> 01:10:33,492
Speaker 10: hundred dollars.

1534
01:10:33,492 --> 01:10:35,412
Speaker 3: So what is the one that you use? What's the

1535
01:10:35,412 --> 01:10:36,293
Speaker 3: product you used, don't you?

1536
01:10:38,652 --> 01:10:41,572
Speaker 10: So it was from Ensians sleep rings. It's an ectory one.

1537
01:10:41,732 --> 01:10:45,492
Speaker 10: The app is E C T R I and yeah,

1538
01:10:45,532 --> 01:10:47,013
Speaker 10: it has a screen on it that tells you at

1539
01:10:47,013 --> 01:10:50,092
Speaker 10: the time and stuff as well. Last for about five

1540
01:10:50,293 --> 01:10:54,652
Speaker 10: days without charging, but it charges in two hours. It's

1541
01:10:54,692 --> 01:10:58,652
Speaker 10: a it's a very like. It's not clinical. It's not

1542
01:10:58,732 --> 01:11:00,972
Speaker 10: something that if you want to put a heart wreck.

1543
01:11:01,492 --> 01:11:03,732
Speaker 10: It gives you patterns. And that's what any of these

1544
01:11:03,812 --> 01:11:05,652
Speaker 10: don't do. When you talked about the garment, I have

1545
01:11:05,692 --> 01:11:09,372
Speaker 10: a Garment Epics watch, so I often compare them heart rates,

1546
01:11:09,532 --> 01:11:11,532
Speaker 10: blood oxygen steps, all the rest of us. So I

1547
01:11:11,572 --> 01:11:15,372
Speaker 10: compear between the two and it's been comparable with those watches,

1548
01:11:16,772 --> 01:11:18,772
Speaker 10: which is all we need. We only need an indication

1549
01:11:18,853 --> 01:11:22,213
Speaker 10: as to why we hit shit sleep last night. But

1550
01:11:22,293 --> 01:11:25,612
Speaker 10: it was, you know, it was my sugar levels were

1551
01:11:25,652 --> 01:11:28,812
Speaker 10: too high, or I had too much to drink. I

1552
01:11:28,853 --> 01:11:31,812
Speaker 10: couldn't get to sleep because my Brian brain was racing.

1553
01:11:31,933 --> 01:11:35,253
Speaker 10: So those types of things you can then look back

1554
01:11:35,293 --> 01:11:36,333
Speaker 10: and go, I make that better.

1555
01:11:38,333 --> 01:11:41,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean smart and that's something I can get behind, Tony.

1556
01:11:41,492 --> 01:11:43,572
Speaker 3: That and easy to say. Maybe that was one of

1557
01:11:43,572 --> 01:11:45,692
Speaker 3: the reasons why I didn't like using the Apple watches,

1558
01:11:45,732 --> 01:11:47,812
Speaker 3: because I used it for more than just my health

1559
01:11:47,853 --> 01:11:50,652
Speaker 3: and sleep. There was you know, notifications, pinging up, all

1560
01:11:50,692 --> 01:11:52,692
Speaker 3: sorts of other things going on. Whereas the ring, as

1561
01:11:52,692 --> 01:11:54,612
Speaker 3: you say, and the blood sugar is fascinating, do you

1562
01:11:54,772 --> 01:11:57,053
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm fascinated to know how it actually gets

1563
01:11:57,093 --> 01:11:57,532
Speaker 3: that reading.

1564
01:11:59,492 --> 01:12:01,372
Speaker 10: No, so the ring doesn't have the blood sugar reading

1565
01:12:01,372 --> 01:12:05,253
Speaker 10: on it because it can't detect into the blood. We're

1566
01:12:05,933 --> 01:12:10,892
Speaker 10: a seat and pump, but it's it's sucking your blood

1567
01:12:10,893 --> 01:12:12,453
Speaker 10: and blood sugar overnight.

1568
01:12:12,652 --> 01:12:14,932
Speaker 2: No, it's not sucking your blood. You're trying to sleep well.

1569
01:12:14,933 --> 01:12:16,692
Speaker 2: I think I think that that that wring idea.

1570
01:12:17,652 --> 01:12:21,692
Speaker 10: No you go, Tony, Yeah, sorry, that was where why

1571
01:12:21,692 --> 01:12:23,652
Speaker 10: I went to China to try and find technology that

1572
01:12:23,692 --> 01:12:26,652
Speaker 10: could do both. But one of the things that they

1573
01:12:26,652 --> 01:12:29,933
Speaker 10: can't do, obviously unless you've actually got tangible blood, is

1574
01:12:29,933 --> 01:12:32,812
Speaker 10: to actually do an accurate blood sugar level. It can

1575
01:12:32,853 --> 01:12:34,532
Speaker 10: do it, It can do an assessment of it, but it

1576
01:12:34,572 --> 01:12:37,333
Speaker 10: can't do an actual and as diabetics, we need the

1577
01:12:37,372 --> 01:12:38,572
Speaker 10: actual reading. We can't just.

1578
01:12:38,732 --> 01:12:43,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh, well, thank you so much for your call, Tony.

1579
01:12:43,452 --> 01:12:43,772
Speaker 3: I love that.

1580
01:12:43,772 --> 01:12:45,372
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, I find that I wake up worse after

1581
01:12:45,372 --> 01:12:48,212
Speaker 2: sleeping pillsy. It's the same sort of effect as alcohol.

1582
01:12:48,253 --> 01:12:50,213
Speaker 2: So you can knock yourself out, but you don't end

1583
01:12:50,293 --> 01:12:53,253
Speaker 2: up having the ram sleep, the rapid eye movement sleep,

1584
01:12:53,253 --> 01:12:57,573
Speaker 2: which is good for your cognitive rest and your consolidating

1585
01:12:57,572 --> 01:12:59,612
Speaker 2: of ideas and stuff, which which will help you the

1586
01:12:59,612 --> 01:13:03,013
Speaker 2: next day to think through complex things. And and it

1587
01:13:03,053 --> 01:13:05,452
Speaker 2: won't help you get the deep sleep, which is restorative

1588
01:13:05,572 --> 01:13:09,572
Speaker 2: for muscles and and you know, and the things you

1589
01:13:09,612 --> 01:13:10,292
Speaker 2: need physically.

1590
01:13:10,412 --> 01:13:12,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Oh. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

1591
01:13:13,093 --> 01:13:15,333
Speaker 3: number to call if you use these sleep apps. Are

1592
01:13:15,333 --> 01:13:17,452
Speaker 3: they working for you? Are you all in on it?

1593
01:13:17,452 --> 01:13:17,572
Speaker 7: Oh?

1594
01:13:17,612 --> 01:13:19,412
Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1595
01:13:19,492 --> 01:13:22,093
Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text number as well.

1596
01:13:22,213 --> 01:13:24,133
Speaker 2: Yes, this person says, although you might think you're getting

1597
01:13:24,133 --> 01:13:27,132
Speaker 2: a good sleep after drinking alcohol, alcohol increases body stress.

1598
01:13:27,173 --> 01:13:29,093
Speaker 2: That's why you don't get a good sleep and you

1599
01:13:29,133 --> 01:13:33,052
Speaker 2: feel tired the next day. Ten to three the issues

1600
01:13:33,053 --> 01:13:35,572
Speaker 2: that affect you, and a bit of fun along the way.

1601
01:13:35,772 --> 01:13:39,213
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

1602
01:13:39,053 --> 01:13:42,892
Speaker 3: Be it is eight to three and we're talking about

1603
01:13:42,933 --> 01:13:44,732
Speaker 3: the use of sleep apps. Do they help you?

1604
01:13:44,772 --> 01:13:44,852
Speaker 7: Oh?

1605
01:13:44,893 --> 01:13:46,932
Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty This text to asked us.

1606
01:13:46,893 --> 01:13:48,692
Speaker 2: Having a bonk before bed help with sleep?

1607
01:13:48,933 --> 01:13:49,892
Speaker 3: I think does for some people.

1608
01:13:49,973 --> 01:13:54,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, science says it does. Yes, making love before

1609
01:13:54,812 --> 01:13:57,893
Speaker 2: sleep can potentially help improve sleep quality for some individuals.

1610
01:13:57,973 --> 01:14:03,532
Speaker 2: Apparently it releases hormones such as prolactin and oxytocin, which

1611
01:14:03,532 --> 01:14:06,253
Speaker 2: promote relaxation and drowsiness.

1612
01:14:06,333 --> 01:14:08,052
Speaker 3: Good times, you probably sleep.

1613
01:14:07,853 --> 01:14:11,532
Speaker 2: Better than if you're How when I put this awake

1614
01:14:11,652 --> 01:14:15,452
Speaker 2: hoping for that to happen, it's not conducive for the

1615
01:14:15,492 --> 01:14:18,933
Speaker 2: good sleep that can keep you awake. Vicky, welcome to

1616
01:14:18,973 --> 01:14:20,812
Speaker 2: the show today.

1617
01:14:20,973 --> 01:14:23,133
Speaker 9: Maybe I need to do some more of that. But yeah,

1618
01:14:23,253 --> 01:14:29,053
Speaker 9: that's another story so that you're not a bad thought. Yeah,

1619
01:14:29,093 --> 01:14:31,492
Speaker 9: I have sleep at in the I was diagnosed over

1620
01:14:31,532 --> 01:14:33,253
Speaker 9: a year ago, and so I have a sleep ap

1621
01:14:33,692 --> 01:14:36,692
Speaker 9: and I have very unfortunately have to sleep with a

1622
01:14:36,732 --> 01:14:40,532
Speaker 9: machae between myself and my husband. But yeah, but that

1623
01:14:40,652 --> 01:14:46,052
Speaker 9: helps me to get decent sleep, to get that deep sleep.

1624
01:14:47,293 --> 01:14:49,932
Speaker 9: I realized. I went back to the doctor a few

1625
01:14:49,933 --> 01:14:53,612
Speaker 9: times and let him know that I was just feeling

1626
01:14:53,652 --> 01:14:56,492
Speaker 9: so tired and just buggered, you know, And I was

1627
01:14:56,532 --> 01:15:00,213
Speaker 9: sleeping all right, but just really really tired. So you

1628
01:15:00,293 --> 01:15:03,213
Speaker 9: can think you're having a good sleep but actually wake

1629
01:15:03,293 --> 01:15:06,213
Speaker 9: up tired. And I actually went to sleep at the

1630
01:15:06,253 --> 01:15:08,572
Speaker 9: wheel a couple of times. So he went on, what now,

1631
01:15:08,612 --> 01:15:10,333
Speaker 9: we're going to send you in for a sleep study.

1632
01:15:11,452 --> 01:15:15,572
Speaker 9: And not being really a candidate for not having you know,

1633
01:15:15,612 --> 01:15:19,812
Speaker 9: a lot of weight around my neck or anything, he said,

1634
01:15:19,812 --> 01:15:22,372
Speaker 9: I wasn't really a candidate, but he thought because I

1635
01:15:22,412 --> 01:15:24,732
Speaker 9: was on the other end of my hormones was getting

1636
01:15:24,772 --> 01:15:28,053
Speaker 9: older and my estrogens left my body, that could be

1637
01:15:28,173 --> 01:15:30,333
Speaker 9: a reason. So he sent me in for one. And yeah,

1638
01:15:30,333 --> 01:15:34,532
Speaker 9: I came back was sleep at mere which was moderate

1639
01:15:34,692 --> 01:15:37,852
Speaker 9: up to thirty times an hour my body would wake myself.

1640
01:15:38,013 --> 01:15:39,492
Speaker 2: Ah, yes, that's a problem.

1641
01:15:39,572 --> 01:15:43,532
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's so I wasn't getting any of that restless sleep.

1642
01:15:43,812 --> 01:15:45,173
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, right.

1643
01:15:46,093 --> 01:15:49,173
Speaker 9: So yeah, so that and you know a lot of

1644
01:15:49,173 --> 01:15:52,732
Speaker 9: people don't realize that if they snare, and sometimes you

1645
01:15:52,772 --> 01:15:54,973
Speaker 9: can snore and wake yourself up, you know, instead of

1646
01:15:55,013 --> 01:15:59,652
Speaker 9: your body's trying to catch your breath, that that actually

1647
01:15:59,732 --> 01:16:02,852
Speaker 9: is quite serious because if you don't address it, you

1648
01:16:02,893 --> 01:16:05,532
Speaker 9: can actually have a heart attack or have a stroke

1649
01:16:05,612 --> 01:16:06,372
Speaker 9: in your sleep.

1650
01:16:06,973 --> 01:16:09,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it is fascinating.

1651
01:16:08,973 --> 01:16:11,133
Speaker 2: How hand minute you can have a you can have

1652
01:16:11,173 --> 01:16:13,812
Speaker 2: a heart attack or a stroking your sleep without noticing,

1653
01:16:13,933 --> 01:16:18,333
Speaker 2: or you can have one what was that? Yeah, right, without.

1654
01:16:18,053 --> 01:16:23,613
Speaker 9: Noticing, without knowing, because you're actually asleep. Like I'm unconscious

1655
01:16:23,652 --> 01:16:25,652
Speaker 9: when I'm having these ethneas, I don't know until I

1656
01:16:25,692 --> 01:16:30,093
Speaker 9: look at my machine the next Yeah. And sometimes I

1657
01:16:30,133 --> 01:16:32,053
Speaker 9: wake up and I feel really really good, and then

1658
01:16:32,253 --> 01:16:33,973
Speaker 9: other times I think, oh, but tired. I wonder what

1659
01:16:34,492 --> 01:16:36,852
Speaker 9: you know, reading was and it's down? But what did

1660
01:16:36,893 --> 01:16:38,732
Speaker 9: I do the day before? I did it eat late?

1661
01:16:38,893 --> 01:16:41,372
Speaker 9: Or what was that? You know? You know I hadn't

1662
01:16:41,412 --> 01:16:42,692
Speaker 9: had a bond the night before obviously.

1663
01:16:42,772 --> 01:16:49,572
Speaker 2: Otherwise, how does the sleep apney machine plan to that

1664
01:16:49,652 --> 01:16:52,612
Speaker 2: aspect of the relationship, having a big machine between you,

1665
01:16:53,652 --> 01:16:54,572
Speaker 2: It's not sixy.

1666
01:16:54,652 --> 01:16:58,093
Speaker 9: I can tell you that I pushed that to the

1667
01:16:58,173 --> 01:16:59,412
Speaker 9: side and it is more important.

1668
01:16:59,452 --> 01:17:01,492
Speaker 2: So yeah, well that's right. Well, I mean, if you've

1669
01:17:01,532 --> 01:17:03,572
Speaker 2: getten no sleep, then that's not sixy either, is it.

1670
01:17:03,732 --> 01:17:05,053
Speaker 9: Yeah, No, it's not.

1671
01:17:05,333 --> 01:17:05,652
Speaker 24: It's not.

1672
01:17:06,893 --> 01:17:08,852
Speaker 9: You know, you don't usually bond all night, usually got

1673
01:17:08,853 --> 01:17:09,732
Speaker 9: to sleep some of it.

1674
01:17:10,053 --> 01:17:10,892
Speaker 3: Not anymore anyway.

1675
01:17:11,093 --> 01:17:15,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, Hey, thank you so much for your call,

1676
01:17:15,772 --> 01:17:18,012
Speaker 2: Vicky and all the best with your sleep apnear.

1677
01:17:18,173 --> 01:17:21,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much. I mean it is way

1678
01:17:21,732 --> 01:17:23,892
Speaker 3: more common than I realized, the old sleep apnear. The

1679
01:17:23,893 --> 01:17:26,092
Speaker 3: older brother Bro's got one of those dark Vada machines

1680
01:17:26,093 --> 01:17:29,052
Speaker 3: that he relies on a couple of tecks. To wrap

1681
01:17:29,173 --> 01:17:32,613
Speaker 3: this up, guys, you have been hoodwinked by your applications.

1682
01:17:32,612 --> 01:17:34,372
Speaker 3: The original sleeping the idea was to go to sleep

1683
01:17:34,372 --> 01:17:37,492
Speaker 3: at sunset and get up at sunrise. Always worked in

1684
01:17:37,532 --> 01:17:38,012
Speaker 3: the past.

1685
01:17:38,572 --> 01:17:43,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, that damn invention of the electric light bulb really screwed.

1686
01:17:43,013 --> 01:17:44,093
Speaker 3: Us in it. It certainly is.

1687
01:17:44,253 --> 01:17:46,213
Speaker 2: Let's go back. You can go back if you want. Yeah,

1688
01:17:46,253 --> 01:17:48,333
Speaker 2: you still get up at some You can just build

1689
01:17:48,333 --> 01:17:51,692
Speaker 2: a cabin in the woods and go back to the

1690
01:17:51,772 --> 01:17:53,093
Speaker 2: natural rhythm of things if you want.

1691
01:17:53,253 --> 01:17:56,133
Speaker 3: Exactly right. Good discussion, Thank you very much. New Sport

1692
01:17:56,213 --> 01:17:59,053
Speaker 3: and Weather on its way.

1693
01:17:59,572 --> 01:18:03,892
Speaker 1: Your new home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie

1694
01:18:04,133 --> 01:18:07,452
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk.

1695
01:18:07,333 --> 01:18:12,213
Speaker 2: Sebby Okay Tyler, should we put that sleep topic to bed?

1696
01:18:12,372 --> 01:18:12,612
Speaker 1: Yes?

1697
01:18:12,853 --> 01:18:16,692
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I spent the whole outbreak. Yeah, putting that

1698
01:18:16,732 --> 01:18:20,772
Speaker 2: together on a whiteboard, and you know, I'm pretty happy

1699
01:18:20,772 --> 01:18:21,412
Speaker 2: without that, WENTZ.

1700
01:18:21,492 --> 01:18:23,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was very good. That slipped through.

1701
01:18:23,612 --> 01:18:25,893
Speaker 2: I could feel laughter across the nation with that. A

1702
01:18:25,973 --> 01:18:27,173
Speaker 2: well done, mate, A little done.

1703
01:18:27,572 --> 01:18:30,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why you get paid the big bucks. Right,

1704
01:18:30,732 --> 01:18:33,012
Speaker 3: this is going to be a fantastic chair really looking

1705
01:18:33,053 --> 01:18:35,213
Speaker 3: forward to this. What are the things that you need

1706
01:18:35,253 --> 01:18:37,852
Speaker 3: to take off as a parent before your children are

1707
01:18:37,893 --> 01:18:39,572
Speaker 3: set up for life?

1708
01:18:39,973 --> 01:18:43,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So when you become a parent, right,

1709
01:18:43,372 --> 01:18:45,812
Speaker 2: you got you got to bring up your cat until

1710
01:18:45,853 --> 01:18:47,892
Speaker 2: they leave home. And that's your job, really is making

1711
01:18:47,933 --> 01:18:49,973
Speaker 2: them competent for the world. That's your main job, right yea,

1712
01:18:50,053 --> 01:18:51,452
Speaker 2: making them so that they can go out and be

1713
01:18:51,452 --> 01:18:53,692
Speaker 2: an adult and be a productive member of society, happy

1714
01:18:53,732 --> 01:18:56,972
Speaker 2: and successful, and then go on to bring up kids

1715
01:18:57,013 --> 01:18:58,812
Speaker 2: and those kids be successful as well, et cetera.

1716
01:18:58,893 --> 01:18:59,812
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, cycle kid.

1717
01:19:00,372 --> 01:19:05,492
Speaker 2: So today I took my son to his practical driving test, right,

1718
01:19:05,772 --> 01:19:07,372
Speaker 2: And can I just say that I've been a bit

1719
01:19:07,372 --> 01:19:09,372
Speaker 2: hard on the driving test New Zealand on the show,

1720
01:19:09,412 --> 01:19:11,652
Speaker 2: And I'm going to walk back some of some of

1721
01:19:11,652 --> 01:19:16,812
Speaker 2: my comments because VT and Z took my son and

1722
01:19:16,933 --> 01:19:20,213
Speaker 2: the driving tester was just such a great human being

1723
01:19:20,933 --> 01:19:25,333
Speaker 2: and was very very generous and supportive towards my son

1724
01:19:25,732 --> 01:19:28,173
Speaker 2: and then passed him, which helps. But you know, I'd

1725
01:19:28,213 --> 01:19:30,932
Speaker 2: spend a lot of time training him to drive, you know,

1726
01:19:31,133 --> 01:19:32,652
Speaker 2: and and I put a lot of effort in. So

1727
01:19:33,013 --> 01:19:34,692
Speaker 2: I was so proud of my son when he passed

1728
01:19:34,692 --> 01:19:36,572
Speaker 2: because I said to him, like, these people they fail

1729
01:19:36,652 --> 01:19:41,292
Speaker 2: nearly everyone. They love to fail, these these driving testers,

1730
01:19:41,812 --> 01:19:44,572
Speaker 2: they love to fail, so you'll probably fail. I was

1731
01:19:44,612 --> 01:19:46,972
Speaker 2: running this line on him that, you know, I thought

1732
01:19:46,973 --> 01:19:48,973
Speaker 2: maybe that would calm him down rather than thinking that

1733
01:19:49,013 --> 01:19:52,173
Speaker 2: it was such high high stakes. And I said that,

1734
01:19:52,213 --> 01:19:54,852
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of people fail. But anyway, he passed,

1735
01:19:55,213 --> 01:19:57,093
Speaker 2: and I felt so proud because I trained him to

1736
01:19:57,173 --> 01:19:59,412
Speaker 2: drive and he passed. And then as we were driving back,

1737
01:19:59,452 --> 01:20:01,372
Speaker 2: and I thought, what a good good boy, this, this

1738
01:20:01,532 --> 01:20:04,293
Speaker 2: the son of mine is What a top top bloke

1739
01:20:04,333 --> 01:20:07,173
Speaker 2: he is, But also what a great driving teacher I am.

1740
01:20:07,412 --> 01:20:08,932
Speaker 2: And then I was looking through I was thinking, he's

1741
01:20:08,973 --> 01:20:11,213
Speaker 2: moved out of home now because he's in a university hostel.

1742
01:20:11,893 --> 01:20:13,532
Speaker 2: And I was thinking, what have I done? Have I've

1743
01:20:13,532 --> 01:20:17,132
Speaker 2: done everything? Have I perfected parenting? Have I done everything

1744
01:20:17,133 --> 01:20:19,012
Speaker 2: I needed to do? And then I sort of started

1745
01:20:19,053 --> 01:20:21,532
Speaker 2: in my hair doing a checklist. He had some problems

1746
01:20:21,572 --> 01:20:23,892
Speaker 2: with the teeth, so I got embraces. Yep, I did that.

1747
01:20:24,253 --> 01:20:28,452
Speaker 2: I spent hours and hours and days and months and

1748
01:20:28,532 --> 01:20:31,372
Speaker 2: years coaching his sports teams and sitting on sidelines and

1749
01:20:31,412 --> 01:20:34,012
Speaker 2: supporting them on that and providing everything he needed to sport.

1750
01:20:34,053 --> 01:20:34,692
Speaker 3: And you're a good dad.

1751
01:20:34,732 --> 01:20:37,173
Speaker 2: I've put him through school. I've had a roof over

1752
01:20:37,213 --> 01:20:37,612
Speaker 2: his head.

1753
01:20:37,732 --> 01:20:37,972
Speaker 3: Yep.

1754
01:20:38,213 --> 01:20:41,093
Speaker 2: Good, good nutrition. And I was thinking, what else is

1755
01:20:41,173 --> 01:20:42,892
Speaker 2: he supposed to do? When before you can tick off

1756
01:20:42,933 --> 01:20:44,932
Speaker 2: and say that I have done everything that I need

1757
01:20:44,973 --> 01:20:47,333
Speaker 2: to do or that I should do, not need to do,

1758
01:20:47,372 --> 01:20:49,293
Speaker 2: because it's an absolute pleasure to bring your kids up

1759
01:20:50,933 --> 01:20:54,093
Speaker 2: that I need to do to have successfully parented a kid.

1760
01:20:54,772 --> 01:20:56,532
Speaker 3: That is one of the final ones, though, Wasn't it

1761
01:20:56,572 --> 01:20:59,013
Speaker 3: the driving, Because then that gives him his freedom that

1762
01:20:59,053 --> 01:21:01,093
Speaker 3: he can travel and go around and pick up his

1763
01:21:01,173 --> 01:21:03,013
Speaker 3: mates and do all that sort of stuff. That is

1764
01:21:03,053 --> 01:21:05,492
Speaker 3: a mass of milestone as a parent to get your

1765
01:21:05,572 --> 01:21:07,892
Speaker 3: kid to that point where are now mobile and they

1766
01:21:07,893 --> 01:21:09,692
Speaker 3: can go with if they want in a car, and

1767
01:21:09,772 --> 01:21:11,253
Speaker 3: they've got that part of their life sorted.

1768
01:21:11,492 --> 01:21:13,452
Speaker 2: But I've already failed a couple of things because this

1769
01:21:13,572 --> 01:21:15,812
Speaker 2: Texas says you're a successful parent when your child can

1770
01:21:15,933 --> 01:21:18,452
Speaker 2: do the washing iron a short shirt, cook a meal,

1771
01:21:18,692 --> 01:21:21,973
Speaker 2: and sew a button on a shirt. My son, definitely,

1772
01:21:22,492 --> 01:21:24,293
Speaker 2: it's an absolute disaster when he tries to do the

1773
01:21:24,412 --> 01:21:27,772
Speaker 2: washing iron a shirt. I don't know he's a good coat,

1774
01:21:28,253 --> 01:21:29,452
Speaker 2: but saw a button on a shirt.

1775
01:21:29,532 --> 01:21:29,612
Speaker 20: No.

1776
01:21:30,133 --> 01:21:31,852
Speaker 3: I think when it comes to cooking and laundry, you

1777
01:21:31,893 --> 01:21:34,212
Speaker 3: don't really nail that stuff until you about your mid twenties.

1778
01:21:34,412 --> 01:21:36,012
Speaker 3: But I got to say, the one thing that mum

1779
01:21:36,053 --> 01:21:38,492
Speaker 3: taught me actually, and I felt really proud, and I

1780
01:21:38,532 --> 01:21:40,492
Speaker 3: know she was proud, was when she taught me how

1781
01:21:40,492 --> 01:21:43,052
Speaker 3: to write my CV and the first time I actually

1782
01:21:43,053 --> 01:21:45,093
Speaker 3: got a job. That was a huge moment for me

1783
01:21:45,133 --> 01:21:47,612
Speaker 3: as a child. When I wrote my own CV, she

1784
01:21:47,692 --> 01:21:50,253
Speaker 3: looked over it and then managed to nail my first

1785
01:21:50,372 --> 01:21:53,492
Speaker 3: job and first position. I thought at that point as

1786
01:21:53,492 --> 01:21:57,013
Speaker 3: a child, I thought, this is fantastic. I'm starting to

1787
01:21:57,053 --> 01:21:57,852
Speaker 3: become an adult now.

1788
01:21:58,173 --> 01:22:00,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, because this, Texas is what are you talking about?

1789
01:22:00,572 --> 01:22:02,972
Speaker 2: A parent's work has never done but at some point,

1790
01:22:03,013 --> 01:22:06,412
Speaker 2: it is some point you have set this person up

1791
01:22:06,452 --> 01:22:08,053
Speaker 2: to go off and make their own decisions. And I

1792
01:22:08,053 --> 01:22:11,093
Speaker 2: always said to my kids when you're eighteen. You have

1793
01:22:11,133 --> 01:22:16,132
Speaker 2: to listen to me and not question until you're eighteen,

1794
01:22:16,213 --> 01:22:17,772
Speaker 2: and then you're out in the world and you do

1795
01:22:17,812 --> 01:22:20,173
Speaker 2: what you want. I'll be there to advise and help you.

1796
01:22:20,612 --> 01:22:23,772
Speaker 2: But then you I believe by the time they're eighteen,

1797
01:22:23,853 --> 01:22:27,172
Speaker 2: you should have given them everything that they need to succeed.

1798
01:22:28,053 --> 01:22:30,612
Speaker 2: You know, you should have taught them everything that you

1799
01:22:30,692 --> 01:22:34,972
Speaker 2: can to succeed. Provided with them everything, the driver's license, whatever.

1800
01:22:35,652 --> 01:22:37,133
Speaker 2: They're ready to go out in the world to make

1801
01:22:37,133 --> 01:22:40,652
Speaker 2: their decisions and succeed and fail under their own steam,

1802
01:22:40,933 --> 01:22:43,293
Speaker 2: having been set up by you with the best chance

1803
01:22:43,293 --> 01:22:43,812
Speaker 2: of success.

1804
01:22:43,893 --> 01:22:46,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you'll still be there if he's got any

1805
01:22:46,173 --> 01:22:48,372
Speaker 3: questions or need some advice, You're always going to be there.

1806
01:22:48,692 --> 01:22:51,572
Speaker 3: But to give them the essential life skills to go

1807
01:22:51,692 --> 01:22:53,732
Speaker 3: out and do what they need to do in this world.

1808
01:22:54,053 --> 01:22:55,892
Speaker 2: Yeah. So when you get a kid, as I did,

1809
01:22:55,933 --> 01:22:57,892
Speaker 2: and I remember holding this particular kid They've got us

1810
01:22:58,053 --> 01:23:02,812
Speaker 2: driving past this practical test first time today, holding him,

1811
01:23:02,812 --> 01:23:05,293
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, now I need to sort out

1812
01:23:05,452 --> 01:23:07,013
Speaker 2: my life. I'm going to try and be a really

1813
01:23:07,053 --> 01:23:09,492
Speaker 2: really good parent. I remember thinking that I'm going to

1814
01:23:09,532 --> 01:23:11,053
Speaker 2: be a really really good parent. I'm going to be

1815
01:23:11,093 --> 01:23:14,172
Speaker 2: a great dad and so, but what is the checklist?

1816
01:23:14,213 --> 01:23:15,412
Speaker 2: I didn't really know what that means.

1817
01:23:16,732 --> 01:23:19,532
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1818
01:23:19,572 --> 01:23:23,052
Speaker 3: What is the essential checklist that you thought you needed

1819
01:23:23,053 --> 01:23:25,053
Speaker 3: to have with your child before you set them off

1820
01:23:25,053 --> 01:23:27,852
Speaker 3: into the world, before they became an adult. Really keen

1821
01:23:27,893 --> 01:23:29,093
Speaker 3: to hear from you on this one. This is going

1822
01:23:29,133 --> 01:23:30,572
Speaker 3: to be a great chat. Oh eight hundred and eighty

1823
01:23:30,612 --> 01:23:33,333
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. It is twelve

1824
01:23:33,372 --> 01:23:37,133
Speaker 3: past three. You stalk zebby it is a quarter past three.

1825
01:23:37,412 --> 01:23:39,333
Speaker 2: So we're talking about what's the checklist of things that

1826
01:23:39,412 --> 01:23:43,213
Speaker 2: you have to provide and we're not just talking financially,

1827
01:23:43,452 --> 01:23:45,812
Speaker 2: but what you have to provide for your child to

1828
01:23:45,853 --> 01:23:47,932
Speaker 2: be a successful parent when you send them off into

1829
01:23:47,933 --> 01:23:48,253
Speaker 2: the world.

1830
01:23:48,293 --> 01:23:50,253
Speaker 3: Yep, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

1831
01:23:50,293 --> 01:23:50,612
Speaker 3: to call.

1832
01:23:50,772 --> 01:23:53,212
Speaker 2: This text is said the sext to Craig. This actually

1833
01:23:53,532 --> 01:23:55,093
Speaker 2: I wold up a little bit like a little tear

1834
01:23:55,133 --> 01:23:56,933
Speaker 2: in Miamis this You know when you have done a

1835
01:23:56,933 --> 01:24:00,412
Speaker 2: fantastic parenting job, when your son calls you mate and

1836
01:24:00,452 --> 01:24:00,932
Speaker 2: not dad.

1837
01:24:01,013 --> 01:24:04,053
Speaker 3: That is beautiful. That's a lovely moment when.

1838
01:24:03,692 --> 01:24:06,972
Speaker 2: You have a child. I've only had sons. But when

1839
01:24:07,013 --> 01:24:08,173
Speaker 2: you have a child, there is a point when you

1840
01:24:08,333 --> 01:24:11,772
Speaker 2: imagine when you'll meet them after they've moved out and

1841
01:24:11,853 --> 01:24:13,173
Speaker 2: go to a pub for a drink with them.

1842
01:24:13,253 --> 01:24:15,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, do you make your meats here up now?

1843
01:24:16,013 --> 01:24:17,972
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's beautiful, Dean, Welcome to the show.

1844
01:24:18,893 --> 01:24:20,293
Speaker 24: Yeah, afternoon, boys, how are.

1845
01:24:20,213 --> 01:24:21,333
Speaker 3: You very good?

1846
01:24:22,893 --> 01:24:23,933
Speaker 13: Look it's not so.

1847
01:24:23,973 --> 01:24:26,732
Speaker 24: Much a checklist, But as soon as Tyler and Matt

1848
01:24:26,732 --> 01:24:28,852
Speaker 24: you started talking about this, it reminded me of an

1849
01:24:28,933 --> 01:24:31,532
Speaker 24: article that Matt helped me out here. I think you

1850
01:24:31,572 --> 01:24:34,732
Speaker 24: wrote either earlier this year or last year, and it

1851
01:24:34,812 --> 01:24:37,012
Speaker 24: was about sitting down with your kids and spending time

1852
01:24:37,053 --> 01:24:38,172
Speaker 24: with them playing games.

1853
01:24:38,213 --> 01:24:40,692
Speaker 2: I think it was Oh, yes, you remember that, mate, Yeah,

1854
01:24:40,692 --> 01:24:43,253
Speaker 2: I've written a few of those. Yes, I've had some

1855
01:24:43,572 --> 01:24:46,133
Speaker 2: big adventures. I think I wrote an article saying that

1856
01:24:46,173 --> 01:24:49,213
Speaker 2: some of the biggest adventures I've had with my kids

1857
01:24:49,372 --> 01:24:53,093
Speaker 2: as when we play have played games together, like right

1858
01:24:53,093 --> 01:24:56,293
Speaker 2: through the Halo series together, too good co labbing.

1859
01:24:56,452 --> 01:24:58,812
Speaker 24: Yeah, well this was even this was going even basic mate.

1860
01:24:58,812 --> 01:25:00,452
Speaker 24: You mentioned about card games and things like.

1861
01:25:00,532 --> 01:25:02,372
Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh yeah, yeah, yeah this one as well.

1862
01:25:02,452 --> 01:25:05,572
Speaker 24: Yeah yeah, and you know, you know, you basically tease

1863
01:25:05,612 --> 01:25:07,732
Speaker 24: them and you so say I'm going to annihilate you.

1864
01:25:09,173 --> 01:25:11,812
Speaker 24: I was reading that. I wanted to share this with

1865
01:25:11,893 --> 01:25:15,092
Speaker 24: you because the wife actually came over and she said,

1866
01:25:15,412 --> 01:25:18,972
Speaker 24: what's wrong. Why are you all tearing up? And I said,

1867
01:25:18,973 --> 01:25:21,412
Speaker 24: look this article written by Matt Heath. I said, because

1868
01:25:21,412 --> 01:25:24,013
Speaker 24: we've got three kids, yeah, one sort of ready to

1869
01:25:24,053 --> 01:25:26,372
Speaker 24: move out. And I said, I don't know. It just

1870
01:25:26,572 --> 01:25:31,293
Speaker 24: it hit so hard, mate, It just had a chord

1871
01:25:31,372 --> 01:25:34,612
Speaker 24: and I actually got up to set reading it, and

1872
01:25:34,652 --> 01:25:37,093
Speaker 24: I wanted to share that with you because obviously you do,

1873
01:25:37,173 --> 01:25:40,693
Speaker 24: you prepare them for leaving, but I think the article itself,

1874
01:25:40,812 --> 01:25:42,972
Speaker 24: you know, you said, spend a lot of time with them,

1875
01:25:42,973 --> 01:25:45,692
Speaker 24: because there's nothing you can do to stop them. They

1876
01:25:45,732 --> 01:25:48,253
Speaker 24: are going to leave. It really hard.

1877
01:25:48,652 --> 01:25:52,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when it does, like when my son first

1878
01:25:52,173 --> 01:25:55,213
Speaker 2: moved into the hostel, I just I couldn't believe the

1879
01:25:55,213 --> 01:25:57,812
Speaker 2: massive hole it left, even though I'm still saying again,

1880
01:25:57,853 --> 01:26:00,213
Speaker 2: because you realized that so much of your purpose up

1881
01:26:00,253 --> 01:26:03,892
Speaker 2: to that point is to you know, you define yourself

1882
01:26:03,933 --> 01:26:07,452
Speaker 2: primarily as a dad trying to prepare your kid and

1883
01:26:07,492 --> 01:26:09,532
Speaker 2: do the right thing for the world. So every decision

1884
01:26:09,572 --> 01:26:12,492
Speaker 2: you make around things are what is best for this

1885
01:26:12,692 --> 01:26:15,652
Speaker 2: child and that's a great purpose in life. And then

1886
01:26:15,692 --> 01:26:17,333
Speaker 2: they walk out the door and you and if you've

1887
01:26:17,333 --> 01:26:19,452
Speaker 2: done a good job, then they're completely independent from you.

1888
01:26:19,772 --> 01:26:21,852
Speaker 2: But you've kind of done yourself for dirty as well,

1889
01:26:21,893 --> 01:26:24,612
Speaker 2: because you're like, you just speak whole in your heart.

1890
01:26:25,213 --> 01:26:27,452
Speaker 24: Well, perhaps we don't, do you think? Maybe, guys, we

1891
01:26:27,772 --> 01:26:31,093
Speaker 24: don't actually prepare ourselves as parents for that. And you know,

1892
01:26:31,213 --> 01:26:34,012
Speaker 24: I haven't really thought deeply about it until I read

1893
01:26:34,013 --> 01:26:37,652
Speaker 24: that article with you, and actually because it was that good.

1894
01:26:37,652 --> 01:26:39,372
Speaker 2: Well, tell you what. Thank you so much for saying that.

1895
01:26:39,372 --> 01:26:41,093
Speaker 2: That's probably one of the nicest things anyone said to me.

1896
01:26:41,093 --> 01:26:45,093
Speaker 2: I'm glad that I made you. Normally, when you make

1897
01:26:45,133 --> 01:26:48,852
Speaker 2: someone you know tears, you put tears in someone's eyes,

1898
01:26:48,853 --> 01:26:49,532
Speaker 2: it's a bad thing.

1899
01:26:54,253 --> 01:26:56,492
Speaker 3: Xine, thank you very much. If anyone wants to read that,

1900
01:26:56,532 --> 01:26:59,173
Speaker 3: hopefully I've got the right article here, just google Matt

1901
01:26:59,173 --> 01:27:01,053
Speaker 3: Heath The Daily Game of Cards is a winning hand

1902
01:27:01,093 --> 01:27:01,572
Speaker 3: for Pearans.

1903
01:27:02,133 --> 01:27:04,972
Speaker 2: That wasn't the That was that it? I know, but

1904
01:27:05,173 --> 01:27:07,852
Speaker 2: that's not my headline. I just want to say the

1905
01:27:07,893 --> 01:27:09,173
Speaker 2: headline at it I don't put.

1906
01:27:09,452 --> 01:27:10,932
Speaker 3: Sorry you didn't write that, yeah.

1907
01:27:12,253 --> 01:27:15,253
Speaker 2: You, yes, yeah, I wouldn't have written such a such

1908
01:27:15,253 --> 01:27:15,612
Speaker 2: a pun.

1909
01:27:16,572 --> 01:27:19,412
Speaker 3: That's a happy headline, that's for sure. I had hundred

1910
01:27:19,492 --> 01:27:21,652
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty people are loving this chat. The phone

1911
01:27:21,652 --> 01:27:23,452
Speaker 3: lines are full boar, but if you can't get through,

1912
01:27:23,572 --> 01:27:26,173
Speaker 3: keep trying because they'll open up very shortly in so

1913
01:27:26,213 --> 01:27:27,812
Speaker 3: many ticks coming through as well.

1914
01:27:27,893 --> 01:27:29,852
Speaker 2: I think this one is a very important manners. It's

1915
01:27:29,853 --> 01:27:32,652
Speaker 2: so simple, but teaching your son to firmly shake hands

1916
01:27:32,652 --> 01:27:34,372
Speaker 2: and look person in the eye is one of the

1917
01:27:34,372 --> 01:27:37,532
Speaker 2: things instilled from an area a early age. The number

1918
01:27:37,532 --> 01:27:41,612
Speaker 2: of adults who comment on this is that I think

1919
01:27:41,652 --> 01:27:44,772
Speaker 2: this is absolutely true. If you can can teach your

1920
01:27:44,853 --> 01:27:47,213
Speaker 2: kids to be able to have a handshake and looking

1921
01:27:47,293 --> 01:27:49,612
Speaker 2: at it on the eye and actually have a conversation

1922
01:27:49,692 --> 01:27:52,893
Speaker 2: with an adult, you know, ask them questions about themselves,

1923
01:27:52,973 --> 01:27:55,372
Speaker 2: you know, be respectful to adults and be able to

1924
01:27:56,053 --> 01:27:58,453
Speaker 2: you know, deal with adults. I think that's a huge.

1925
01:27:58,213 --> 01:28:00,412
Speaker 3: Thing, definitely. Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is the

1926
01:28:00,492 --> 01:28:02,053
Speaker 3: number to call. What are the things you need to

1927
01:28:02,053 --> 01:28:04,052
Speaker 3: take off as a parent before your children are set

1928
01:28:04,173 --> 01:28:06,452
Speaker 3: up for adulthood? It is nineteen past.

1929
01:28:06,253 --> 01:28:13,772
Speaker 1: Three Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred

1930
01:28:13,812 --> 01:28:17,293
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZB Good Afternoons.

1931
01:28:17,372 --> 01:28:20,213
Speaker 3: You're having a great discussion about what is the check

1932
01:28:20,333 --> 01:28:21,932
Speaker 3: list that you need to tick off as a parent

1933
01:28:21,933 --> 01:28:24,133
Speaker 3: before your children are set up for adulthood and for

1934
01:28:24,213 --> 01:28:25,933
Speaker 3: general life. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1935
01:28:26,053 --> 01:28:28,812
Speaker 3: number to call. There's plenty of techs coming through on

1936
01:28:29,013 --> 01:28:31,933
Speaker 3: nine two ninety two as well. This one Get I

1937
01:28:31,933 --> 01:28:33,892
Speaker 3: met your article. It's made me tear up just listening

1938
01:28:33,933 --> 01:28:35,732
Speaker 3: to that man talking about it. Talk about it. Yeah,

1939
01:28:35,772 --> 01:28:37,772
Speaker 3: my babies are going to leave home and I'm going

1940
01:28:37,812 --> 01:28:38,652
Speaker 3: to be so lost.

1941
01:28:39,452 --> 01:28:41,812
Speaker 2: I had this way to deal with your life, and

1942
01:28:41,893 --> 01:28:45,932
Speaker 2: it was look at yourself and ask yourself. If someone

1943
01:28:46,013 --> 01:28:48,173
Speaker 2: was watching the movie of your life, what advice they'd

1944
01:28:48,213 --> 01:28:51,133
Speaker 2: be extreme screaming at you. And I guarantee if you're

1945
01:28:51,133 --> 01:28:52,933
Speaker 2: sitting on your phone and your kids are sitting on

1946
01:28:52,933 --> 01:28:55,253
Speaker 2: your phone beside you, they'd be screaming. Get off your

1947
01:28:55,293 --> 01:28:58,213
Speaker 2: phone and do something with your kids. Ye, player, play

1948
01:28:58,452 --> 01:29:01,892
Speaker 2: cards with them, play even video games with them. You know,

1949
01:29:02,213 --> 01:29:04,333
Speaker 2: you know, do something with your kids. Don't sit on

1950
01:29:04,372 --> 01:29:06,532
Speaker 2: your phone, can you you know, can you imagine watching

1951
01:29:06,532 --> 01:29:07,933
Speaker 2: a movie and someone sitting there and go what is?

1952
01:29:08,013 --> 01:29:08,253
Speaker 8: What is?

1953
01:29:08,893 --> 01:29:10,892
Speaker 2: They'll be going get off your phone and spend time

1954
01:29:10,893 --> 01:29:12,772
Speaker 2: with your kids. You not only get, as the Sticks

1955
01:29:12,772 --> 01:29:15,612
Speaker 2: of here says, you need to be told. Parents need

1956
01:29:15,652 --> 01:29:19,132
Speaker 2: to be told they only get eighteen summers with their children. Yeah,

1957
01:29:19,133 --> 01:29:21,213
Speaker 2: that's a beautiful way to look at it. Absolutely, it's

1958
01:29:21,213 --> 01:29:23,293
Speaker 2: a terrifying way to look at it. Mary Anne, Welcome

1959
01:29:23,293 --> 01:29:23,732
Speaker 2: to the show.

1960
01:29:24,612 --> 01:29:28,333
Speaker 21: Hey, thanks, guys. I think the best thing you can

1961
01:29:28,372 --> 01:29:30,812
Speaker 21: do for your kids, like I have two kids, is

1962
01:29:30,853 --> 01:29:37,253
Speaker 21: to encourage them to be friends with each other. Yeah, yeah,

1963
01:29:37,532 --> 01:29:40,492
Speaker 21: because when you're gone, they only have them.

1964
01:29:41,053 --> 01:29:43,253
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well yeah, I mean that's one of the things

1965
01:29:43,253 --> 01:29:46,492
Speaker 2: that makes me so happy that my two sons get

1966
01:29:46,532 --> 01:29:50,213
Speaker 2: on so well. I'm so grateful for it seeing it.

1967
01:29:50,253 --> 01:29:51,852
Speaker 2: And that's another thing, you know saying before you mentioned

1968
01:29:51,853 --> 01:29:55,052
Speaker 2: meeting your kids up for dinner or you know, play

1969
01:29:55,093 --> 01:29:58,053
Speaker 2: goal for to go for a beer when they grow up.

1970
01:29:58,093 --> 01:30:00,972
Speaker 2: But I love the idea of my two sons meeting up,

1971
01:30:01,013 --> 01:30:02,892
Speaker 2: you know, you know as they get old.

1972
01:30:04,253 --> 01:30:06,972
Speaker 21: My son is like thirty and my daughter's twenty six.

1973
01:30:07,053 --> 01:30:09,852
Speaker 21: And when my order was born, my son wasn't that

1974
01:30:10,013 --> 01:30:16,013
Speaker 21: thrilled about it. Yeah, you know, it's like, what you mean,

1975
01:30:16,133 --> 01:30:20,572
Speaker 21: she's staying for good. But you know, then there was

1976
01:30:20,612 --> 01:30:23,933
Speaker 21: a time where like he was ten and she was

1977
01:30:24,093 --> 01:30:28,692
Speaker 21: like six, and we were in a ski car park

1978
01:30:28,973 --> 01:30:31,733
Speaker 21: and this car like went out of control.

1979
01:30:34,973 --> 01:30:36,253
Speaker 3: I know, are you still there.

1980
01:30:36,053 --> 01:30:39,972
Speaker 23: Mary, Yeah, and pulled her out.

1981
01:30:39,893 --> 01:30:40,293
Speaker 4: Of the way.

1982
01:30:41,053 --> 01:30:43,732
Speaker 2: Oh that's beautiful.

1983
01:30:45,333 --> 01:30:49,572
Speaker 21: Anyway, So you know, make your kids friends with each

1984
01:30:49,572 --> 01:30:51,253
Speaker 21: other because one day you'll be gone.

1985
01:30:52,452 --> 01:30:52,732
Speaker 1: Wow.

1986
01:30:52,973 --> 01:30:56,452
Speaker 2: So so just to get back to that, it's probably tougher, obviously.

1987
01:30:56,492 --> 01:31:00,372
Speaker 2: That's such a beautiful moment. So your son, who you'd

1988
01:31:00,412 --> 01:31:02,572
Speaker 2: worried that was that that had been a little bit

1989
01:31:02,612 --> 01:31:06,253
Speaker 2: jealous when she turned up at one point just saw

1990
01:31:06,772 --> 01:31:10,133
Speaker 2: his sister in danger and his instinct was to save her.

1991
01:31:10,213 --> 01:31:12,892
Speaker 2: That's that's beautiful, isn't it.

1992
01:31:13,853 --> 01:31:14,453
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1993
01:31:14,692 --> 01:31:19,732
Speaker 21: Oh, bless prettyis pissed off with the kids in the car.

1994
01:31:20,612 --> 01:31:24,732
Speaker 2: For you, that's the next step of it. Hey, thank

1995
01:31:24,732 --> 01:31:26,932
Speaker 2: you so much for calling what Maryanne? Thanks for sharing that.

1996
01:31:27,013 --> 01:31:30,253
Speaker 3: What a lovely story. And give a couple of a

1997
01:31:30,293 --> 01:31:33,532
Speaker 3: couple of need a few tissues in here. I think right,

1998
01:31:33,572 --> 01:31:35,452
Speaker 3: we'll keep this going on. One hundred and eighty ten

1999
01:31:35,532 --> 01:31:36,692
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call.

2000
01:31:37,652 --> 01:31:41,812
Speaker 2: Blair. Welcome to the show. Someone's cutting onions in the studio, Blair.

2001
01:31:42,013 --> 01:31:43,852
Speaker 8: Good, Hey, Hi, how you.

2002
01:31:43,893 --> 01:31:45,532
Speaker 3: Going very well.

2003
01:31:45,652 --> 01:31:46,173
Speaker 8: Are you there?

2004
01:31:46,253 --> 01:31:47,932
Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, we've got you loud and clear, mate. And

2005
01:31:47,973 --> 01:31:50,452
Speaker 3: what's the checklift? Or how do you know you've succeeded

2006
01:31:50,492 --> 01:31:51,012
Speaker 3: as a parent?

2007
01:31:52,013 --> 01:31:55,693
Speaker 8: Oh well, in regards to if you know you've succeeded,

2008
01:31:55,933 --> 01:31:58,452
Speaker 8: then only comes with time. But all I wanted to

2009
01:31:58,452 --> 01:32:02,253
Speaker 8: say was what I did with my kids is give

2010
01:32:02,293 --> 01:32:07,892
Speaker 8: them love, honesty in my time. And you know, I

2011
01:32:07,933 --> 01:32:12,213
Speaker 8: think the three key things, you knowially that second thing

2012
01:32:12,812 --> 01:32:16,812
Speaker 8: honestly about what everything's about, you know what I mean,

2013
01:32:18,612 --> 01:32:21,412
Speaker 8: you know, And that's all I did. That's all I

2014
01:32:21,452 --> 01:32:23,372
Speaker 8: was able to do, you know what I mean?

2015
01:32:24,093 --> 01:32:26,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, And and and part of honesty, Blair is if

2016
01:32:26,692 --> 01:32:28,333
Speaker 2: you say you're going to be somewhere, you're going to

2017
01:32:28,412 --> 01:32:29,932
Speaker 2: you're going to be there, you know.

2018
01:32:30,372 --> 01:32:34,852
Speaker 8: Yeah. And as well as that, yeah, exactly that honestly

2019
01:32:34,973 --> 01:32:39,452
Speaker 8: saying that I was honest about the world they live in,

2020
01:32:39,893 --> 01:32:43,532
Speaker 8: you know, and it's not all gloss and cotton will

2021
01:32:43,652 --> 01:32:48,213
Speaker 8: and stuff, and be prepared for that and don't be

2022
01:32:48,293 --> 01:32:51,452
Speaker 8: surprised when bad stuff happens, you know what I mean.

2023
01:32:51,933 --> 01:32:55,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't can't. You can't protect them forever. So

2024
01:32:55,772 --> 01:32:58,452
Speaker 2: there's there's something that you can't you know, you've got

2025
01:32:58,492 --> 01:33:01,213
Speaker 2: to make your kids. You can't protect your kids, You've

2026
01:33:01,213 --> 01:33:03,052
Speaker 2: got to make them competent to face the world.

2027
01:33:04,053 --> 01:33:04,293
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2028
01:33:04,333 --> 01:33:06,932
Speaker 8: And what what I tried to do was give them,

2029
01:33:07,372 --> 01:33:10,173
Speaker 8: give them the right, you know, for want of a

2030
01:33:10,173 --> 01:33:14,412
Speaker 8: better word, given the right ammunition, you know, to make

2031
01:33:14,492 --> 01:33:19,572
Speaker 8: their own decisions in the right way, you know, legally

2032
01:33:19,652 --> 01:33:23,972
Speaker 8: and morally and all of that kind of stuff. It's

2033
01:33:24,013 --> 01:33:25,412
Speaker 8: about way you can really do. A.

2034
01:33:25,933 --> 01:33:27,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought this was.

2035
01:33:27,692 --> 01:33:29,532
Speaker 8: Just kids and they're going to do what they're going

2036
01:33:29,572 --> 01:33:32,093
Speaker 8: to do. I mean we all did growing up, didn't

2037
01:33:32,093 --> 01:33:32,732
Speaker 8: we Very true.

2038
01:33:32,853 --> 01:33:34,412
Speaker 2: Well, eventually they're going to have to start making all

2039
01:33:34,452 --> 01:33:36,852
Speaker 2: their decisions. So you only get so long to try

2040
01:33:36,893 --> 01:33:40,013
Speaker 2: and set them up to be competent to face exactly

2041
01:33:40,293 --> 01:33:42,812
Speaker 2: the potential horrors of the world, you know, the great

2042
01:33:43,572 --> 01:33:46,012
Speaker 2: the great opportunities of the world, but also the great

2043
01:33:46,093 --> 01:33:47,012
Speaker 2: dangers of the world.

2044
01:33:47,853 --> 01:33:51,692
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly. And like I say, just love honesty in

2045
01:33:51,853 --> 01:33:53,692
Speaker 8: your time. A.

2046
01:33:55,853 --> 01:33:58,612
Speaker 2: The timelines can be quite hard, though, isn't it, Because

2047
01:33:59,253 --> 01:34:02,253
Speaker 2: as sorry, the time one can be quite hard because

2048
01:34:02,293 --> 01:34:04,412
Speaker 2: sometimes to provide all the other things you need for

2049
01:34:04,452 --> 01:34:09,093
Speaker 2: the kids, you have to work long hours sometimes mean

2050
01:34:09,133 --> 01:34:11,333
Speaker 2: that you s end up being away from the people

2051
01:34:11,333 --> 01:34:13,532
Speaker 2: that you're working for. You're working really hard to make

2052
01:34:13,532 --> 01:34:17,932
Speaker 2: money for the kids, and meanwhile you're away from the kids.

2053
01:34:18,492 --> 01:34:20,492
Speaker 8: One of the things I did with that time thing

2054
01:34:20,893 --> 01:34:25,412
Speaker 8: is I took the kids to work with me. Yeah,

2055
01:34:25,652 --> 01:34:28,612
Speaker 8: so anyway, that's all I wanted to say.

2056
01:34:28,692 --> 01:34:30,972
Speaker 2: Checked on your bless you sound like a great dad.

2057
01:34:31,053 --> 01:34:33,972
Speaker 3: Absolutely nice ticks here. You get a Matt and Tyler,

2058
01:34:34,053 --> 01:34:37,013
Speaker 3: six kids, taught them all to drive, they're well educated

2059
01:34:37,213 --> 01:34:39,532
Speaker 3: and they're all now achieving very well in life. I

2060
01:34:39,532 --> 01:34:42,132
Speaker 3: feel like I'm a champion dad. From Nigel, I think.

2061
01:34:41,933 --> 01:34:44,732
Speaker 2: This is a really good text from Lorraine as well. Hi, guys,

2062
01:34:44,772 --> 01:34:46,812
Speaker 2: one of the most important jobs you can be as

2063
01:34:46,853 --> 01:34:49,732
Speaker 2: a dad and for your son is how you treat

2064
01:34:49,772 --> 01:34:54,013
Speaker 2: their mother. A loving, respectful relationship absolutely will help them

2065
01:34:54,013 --> 01:34:56,173
Speaker 2: in their relationships. Yeah, I mean that is actually true.

2066
01:34:56,213 --> 01:35:00,732
Speaker 2: But across the board, you know, actions speak louder than words,

2067
01:35:00,732 --> 01:35:03,013
Speaker 2: So how you are as a person is teaching your

2068
01:35:03,093 --> 01:35:06,093
Speaker 2: kids much more. I mean, you could sit down and

2069
01:35:06,093 --> 01:35:09,293
Speaker 2: say the best morality that you've googled, but if you're

2070
01:35:09,293 --> 01:35:11,333
Speaker 2: not living it in front of them, then then you're

2071
01:35:11,372 --> 01:35:12,412
Speaker 2: teaching them a different lesson.

2072
01:35:12,492 --> 01:35:14,532
Speaker 3: So true. Oh one hundred and eighteen eighty is the

2073
01:35:14,652 --> 01:35:16,412
Speaker 3: number to call. We've got full boards. But if you

2074
01:35:16,452 --> 01:35:19,652
Speaker 3: can't get through, keep trying. What is the checklist that

2075
01:35:19,692 --> 01:35:21,812
Speaker 3: you need to take off as a parent before your

2076
01:35:21,853 --> 01:35:24,812
Speaker 3: children are set up for adulthood? It is twenty nine

2077
01:35:24,973 --> 01:35:26,652
Speaker 3: past three headlines with railing coming up.

2078
01:35:28,973 --> 01:35:32,612
Speaker 4: Jus talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxes. It's

2079
01:35:32,652 --> 01:35:35,972
Speaker 4: no trouble with a blue bubble. The Justice Minister says

2080
01:35:35,973 --> 01:35:40,293
Speaker 4: the Electoral Commission's been sending voters mixed messages to enroll

2081
01:35:40,372 --> 01:35:44,372
Speaker 4: well before the election or on the day. Paul Goldsmith

2082
01:35:44,412 --> 01:35:47,892
Speaker 4: says he's overhauling electoral rules to streamline a system he's

2083
01:35:47,933 --> 01:35:53,372
Speaker 4: calling outdated. Westpac says hidden subscriptions set Keywi's back twenty

2084
01:35:53,412 --> 01:35:56,372
Speaker 4: five million dollars a year and is urging people to

2085
01:35:56,412 --> 01:36:00,692
Speaker 4: read the fine print when shopping online. A police officer

2086
01:36:00,732 --> 01:36:03,652
Speaker 4: has been charged with dangerous driving over the death of

2087
01:36:03,692 --> 01:36:08,572
Speaker 4: a northernteen during a pursuit in twenty twenty three. I've

2088
01:36:08,572 --> 01:36:13,092
Speaker 4: been scrapping requirements for removable vape batteries meant to protect

2089
01:36:13,093 --> 01:36:18,892
Speaker 4: against fires after vape franchise Shosher threatened legal action. Health

2090
01:36:18,893 --> 01:36:21,732
Speaker 4: New Zealand's aiming to avert twenty four hour strike action

2091
01:36:21,853 --> 01:36:25,132
Speaker 4: by nurses planned for next week. A meeting a scheduled

2092
01:36:25,133 --> 01:36:29,412
Speaker 4: with the New Zealand Nurses Organization on Monday, and Bluebridge's

2093
01:36:29,452 --> 01:36:31,893
Speaker 4: new faery has had its made in cooked straight passenger

2094
01:36:31,973 --> 01:36:35,812
Speaker 4: journey and a second sailing will set off from Wellington tonight.

2095
01:36:36,853 --> 01:36:40,532
Speaker 4: Bryce Wilkinson on why attracting overseas investment is a step

2096
01:36:40,612 --> 01:36:43,932
Speaker 4: forward but not far enough. You can see the full

2097
01:36:43,973 --> 01:36:46,652
Speaker 4: column at end, said Herald Premium. Back now to matt

2098
01:36:46,692 --> 01:36:47,732
Speaker 4: Eathan Tyler Adams.

2099
01:36:47,732 --> 01:36:49,772
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, ray Lean, and we're talking about

2100
01:36:49,772 --> 01:36:51,053
Speaker 3: what are the things you need to take off as

2101
01:36:51,053 --> 01:36:52,372
Speaker 3: appearent before they set up for life.

2102
01:36:52,532 --> 01:36:54,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, because this morning I took my son

2103
01:36:54,973 --> 01:36:58,892
Speaker 2: out to his practical driving test in he passed, and

2104
01:36:59,093 --> 01:37:01,212
Speaker 2: I was so proud of him. I got quite emotional.

2105
01:37:01,652 --> 01:37:03,452
Speaker 2: But then I was sitting and part of the emotion

2106
01:37:03,652 --> 01:37:05,293
Speaker 2: was I thought, like, I've ticked off another thing that

2107
01:37:05,333 --> 01:37:07,213
Speaker 2: I always thought, you know, I'll have one day I'll

2108
01:37:07,253 --> 01:37:09,452
Speaker 2: teach my son to drive, and I've done that and

2109
01:37:09,492 --> 01:37:11,892
Speaker 2: he passes test. So that made me feel proud of him.

2110
01:37:12,372 --> 01:37:14,732
Speaker 2: Also made me feel proud of our relationship that we

2111
01:37:14,732 --> 01:37:17,012
Speaker 2: could tea I could teach him to drive without him

2112
01:37:17,293 --> 01:37:20,692
Speaker 2: without having a single argument about it. And then I thought,

2113
01:37:20,692 --> 01:37:22,732
Speaker 2: you know, he's eighteen. Now, I've done most of the

2114
01:37:22,772 --> 01:37:25,053
Speaker 2: things that I need to do, not that I need

2115
01:37:25,093 --> 01:37:28,293
Speaker 2: to do. I'd like to do more. I'd like part

2116
01:37:28,333 --> 01:37:30,532
Speaker 2: of me wants I'm never to move out. But he

2117
01:37:30,612 --> 01:37:34,213
Speaker 2: has and you know, braces, spending a lot of time

2118
01:37:34,213 --> 01:37:38,213
Speaker 2: with sports. Yeah, you know, putting a roof over his head,

2119
01:37:38,412 --> 01:37:41,333
Speaker 2: making sure that he knows that I love and will

2120
01:37:41,372 --> 01:37:44,173
Speaker 2: support him forever, all those kind of things. But what

2121
01:37:44,253 --> 01:37:46,253
Speaker 2: are those things you got to take off to say

2122
01:37:46,532 --> 01:37:49,173
Speaker 2: at when your kid moves out that you have been

2123
01:37:49,452 --> 01:37:51,093
Speaker 2: a good dad or mum.

2124
01:37:51,253 --> 01:37:53,612
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to.

2125
01:37:53,492 --> 01:37:55,452
Speaker 2: Call, Rachelle Welcome to the show.

2126
01:37:56,572 --> 01:37:58,812
Speaker 3: Hi, how are you very good?

2127
01:37:59,893 --> 01:38:00,452
Speaker 8: That's good.

2128
01:38:00,732 --> 01:38:04,892
Speaker 7: I've got three boys, and my oldest one he left

2129
01:38:04,933 --> 01:38:08,612
Speaker 7: home about two years ago, and when he moved out,

2130
01:38:08,732 --> 01:38:11,812
Speaker 7: I was very, very nervous for him. He was our

2131
01:38:12,532 --> 01:38:15,852
Speaker 7: our rebel child. I guess you call him and he's

2132
01:38:15,893 --> 01:38:18,133
Speaker 7: you know, he's happy. He's happy now and settled in

2133
01:38:18,173 --> 01:38:20,173
Speaker 7: his life out at home. That it's my second child

2134
01:38:20,253 --> 01:38:23,732
Speaker 7: leaving home now and he's never moved out. And he

2135
01:38:23,772 --> 01:38:27,772
Speaker 7: has gone about moving out, but not just moving out,

2136
01:38:27,812 --> 01:38:32,652
Speaker 7: he's moving overseas, so it's a lot harder this time. Yeah,

2137
01:38:32,732 --> 01:38:35,173
Speaker 7: but he's done well. He's like, he's got himself a job.

2138
01:38:35,213 --> 01:38:36,892
Speaker 7: You know, he's got to earn one hundred and thirty

2139
01:38:36,893 --> 01:38:39,852
Speaker 7: thousand k years, He's got a place to live, he's

2140
01:38:40,053 --> 01:38:42,532
Speaker 7: you know, he's he's got himself set up. But I

2141
01:38:42,612 --> 01:38:47,572
Speaker 7: know in my heart with him going that, bringing him up,

2142
01:38:47,612 --> 01:38:50,772
Speaker 7: that I've instilled a lot of things in him, you know,

2143
01:38:50,772 --> 01:38:53,612
Speaker 7: knowing your self worth, knowing that you loved, teaching him

2144
01:38:53,612 --> 01:38:57,532
Speaker 7: about his finances, and just making sure that he knows

2145
01:38:57,532 --> 01:39:00,012
Speaker 7: that we're always there and he can always come home.

2146
01:39:01,772 --> 01:39:04,892
Speaker 7: I've spent so much time with my children even now,

2147
01:39:04,973 --> 01:39:07,492
Speaker 7: I still have mother mother son dates. Can we go

2148
01:39:07,492 --> 01:39:09,892
Speaker 7: out and we go bowlder, we have dinners, you know,

2149
01:39:09,973 --> 01:39:12,772
Speaker 7: those types of things. And I've still got one at home,

2150
01:39:12,853 --> 01:39:14,652
Speaker 7: so it's.

2151
01:39:14,572 --> 01:39:16,812
Speaker 2: Good to have another one at home when the other one.

2152
01:39:17,253 --> 01:39:19,652
Speaker 2: The other one goes few more years ago.

2153
01:39:21,732 --> 01:39:24,093
Speaker 7: But yeah, I just know that he's going with a

2154
01:39:24,093 --> 01:39:26,013
Speaker 7: lot of love in his heart, and he knows that

2155
01:39:26,173 --> 01:39:28,732
Speaker 7: you know, we're here and that we've given him everything

2156
01:39:28,772 --> 01:39:31,293
Speaker 7: that he all the tools he needs to be successful

2157
01:39:31,333 --> 01:39:33,333
Speaker 7: in his life.

2158
01:39:35,732 --> 01:39:40,012
Speaker 2: And what about the I guess the financial side of things,

2159
01:39:40,053 --> 01:39:42,532
Speaker 2: being able to provide for them, is there the basics

2160
01:39:42,532 --> 01:39:43,852
Speaker 2: that you have to You've got to You've got to

2161
01:39:43,853 --> 01:39:47,253
Speaker 2: obviously feed them in a safe house. That's that's you know,

2162
01:39:47,293 --> 01:39:51,013
Speaker 2: you that that is very very important. Did you have

2163
01:39:51,093 --> 01:39:53,212
Speaker 2: to do you have to pony up for braces?

2164
01:39:54,652 --> 01:39:58,293
Speaker 7: No, we didn't, fortunately, but we didn't bring them up

2165
01:39:58,492 --> 01:40:03,652
Speaker 7: to to have everything. We taught them that you had

2166
01:40:03,652 --> 01:40:06,133
Speaker 7: to earn to have something because we went the richest people.

2167
01:40:06,173 --> 01:40:09,053
Speaker 7: We were young when we had kids, and you know,

2168
01:40:09,133 --> 01:40:11,412
Speaker 7: and budgets were important to us. So we taught them that,

2169
01:40:11,452 --> 01:40:13,452
Speaker 7: you know, you don't have to have the latest Nike

2170
01:40:13,612 --> 01:40:15,212
Speaker 7: year or you don't you know, those.

2171
01:40:15,013 --> 01:40:16,372
Speaker 24: Types of things.

2172
01:40:16,213 --> 01:40:17,852
Speaker 7: If you want things like that, you.

2173
01:40:17,853 --> 01:40:18,532
Speaker 24: Strive for it.

2174
01:40:19,093 --> 01:40:20,013
Speaker 2: See they did.

2175
01:40:20,053 --> 01:40:22,093
Speaker 7: Get something like that. They really appreciated it.

2176
01:40:22,293 --> 01:40:26,452
Speaker 2: This might be somewhere I've fallen down as a dad.

2177
01:40:26,452 --> 01:40:27,452
Speaker 7: So now we don't do it.

2178
01:40:28,213 --> 01:40:28,892
Speaker 5: We didn't do it.

2179
01:40:29,013 --> 01:40:31,053
Speaker 2: I might have. I might have given them everything they

2180
01:40:31,053 --> 01:40:34,893
Speaker 2: could possibly want, especially.

2181
01:40:35,053 --> 01:40:37,052
Speaker 7: As time was the time where we would give things

2182
01:40:37,173 --> 01:40:39,253
Speaker 7: like that, but not during the year. You know, just

2183
01:40:39,293 --> 01:40:41,892
Speaker 7: because the kid had the latest shoes doesn't mean, they

2184
01:40:41,893 --> 01:40:44,052
Speaker 7: had to have them, and you know, so they don't.

2185
01:40:44,173 --> 01:40:48,173
Speaker 7: They don't ask for anything. Yeah, they're appreciative of what

2186
01:40:48,213 --> 01:40:48,652
Speaker 7: they got.

2187
01:40:48,812 --> 01:40:50,772
Speaker 2: That's brilliant. You've done a fantastic job. But do you

2188
01:40:50,772 --> 01:40:53,732
Speaker 2: ever think that there'll be somewhere because you aim to

2189
01:40:53,812 --> 01:40:56,372
Speaker 2: be a great parent and you think about it a lot,

2190
01:40:56,492 --> 01:40:59,293
Speaker 2: and but do you ever think about the thing that

2191
01:40:59,293 --> 01:41:03,333
Speaker 2: they will look back and go, ah, my parents did

2192
01:41:03,333 --> 01:41:07,293
Speaker 2: this wrong or the thing that you somehow got wrong,

2193
01:41:07,372 --> 01:41:09,652
Speaker 2: because say, for example, you saying that there, I'm thinking

2194
01:41:10,173 --> 01:41:14,053
Speaker 2: there's a potential that I didn't teach my kids that

2195
01:41:14,293 --> 01:41:17,253
Speaker 2: they had to. I found this, for example, Rochelle's visiting

2196
01:41:17,253 --> 01:41:20,412
Speaker 2: my dad recently, and he pulled out this this note

2197
01:41:20,412 --> 01:41:22,772
Speaker 2: and it was an IOU for work around the farm

2198
01:41:23,333 --> 01:41:26,973
Speaker 2: that I'd signed as a kid to get something. We

2199
01:41:26,973 --> 01:41:28,652
Speaker 2: couldn't remember to what it was, but it was an

2200
01:41:28,652 --> 01:41:32,333
Speaker 2: IOU for thirty hours work, yep. And so that's how

2201
01:41:32,372 --> 01:41:34,532
Speaker 2: he that's how he brought me up. If you want something,

2202
01:41:34,572 --> 01:41:36,293
Speaker 2: then you have to work for it. It was this

2203
01:41:36,333 --> 01:41:39,293
Speaker 2: funny little thing of this terrible little child signature on it,

2204
01:41:39,333 --> 01:41:40,812
Speaker 2: and I was thinking I saw that as well, and

2205
01:41:40,853 --> 01:41:43,812
Speaker 2: I thought maybe I haven't because you know, I've got

2206
01:41:43,853 --> 01:41:45,732
Speaker 2: a pretty good work ethic, I think, and I think

2207
01:41:45,772 --> 01:41:49,213
Speaker 2: maybe that was instilled in my be from my dad.

2208
01:41:49,333 --> 01:41:51,412
Speaker 2: And now I'm thinking, God, is that the area I

2209
01:41:51,772 --> 01:41:54,652
Speaker 2: messed up in, you know, by giving them too much stuff?

2210
01:41:56,213 --> 01:41:56,412
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2211
01:41:56,492 --> 01:42:01,532
Speaker 7: I like it's not that they went about like they

2212
01:42:01,532 --> 01:42:03,412
Speaker 7: did get things, but it was just like, you know,

2213
01:42:03,692 --> 01:42:08,333
Speaker 7: we just wanted them to realize the value of things.

2214
01:42:07,853 --> 01:42:11,452
Speaker 7: You just don't throw money at everything. You think about

2215
01:42:11,452 --> 01:42:13,572
Speaker 7: it before you do it. And you know, and they

2216
01:42:13,652 --> 01:42:15,372
Speaker 7: might turn around and think that we were horrible for

2217
01:42:15,412 --> 01:42:18,053
Speaker 7: doing that, but we know that they're going to think about.

2218
01:42:19,293 --> 01:42:20,532
Speaker 3: It's a great listen, Rochelle.

2219
01:42:20,612 --> 01:42:22,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm starting to sing a big I'm starting to

2220
01:42:22,612 --> 01:42:23,892
Speaker 2: see a big hole on my parenting.

2221
01:42:25,572 --> 01:42:27,933
Speaker 7: But even now, you know, they young adults now, like

2222
01:42:28,013 --> 01:42:30,652
Speaker 7: my youngest is eighteen, he's just turned eighteen, and my

2223
01:42:30,692 --> 01:42:32,012
Speaker 7: oldest is twenty three.

2224
01:42:32,093 --> 01:42:32,612
Speaker 5: Twenty four.

2225
01:42:32,853 --> 01:42:36,013
Speaker 7: I think think about the one and a twenty one

2226
01:42:36,133 --> 01:42:39,093
Speaker 7: year olds, one that's going overseas. And even now, you know,

2227
01:42:39,452 --> 01:42:40,972
Speaker 7: we say to them, you know, you're.

2228
01:42:40,853 --> 01:42:42,492
Speaker 24: Living at home. We don't charge them.

2229
01:42:42,333 --> 01:42:44,772
Speaker 7: Board and we just say to them, you know, if

2230
01:42:45,253 --> 01:42:47,772
Speaker 7: you want something, you need to contribute. So we still

2231
01:42:47,812 --> 01:42:50,052
Speaker 7: do it to them now and it's you know, otherwise

2232
01:42:50,452 --> 01:42:52,053
Speaker 7: we don't want to take us for granted at the

2233
01:42:52,093 --> 01:42:52,652
Speaker 7: end of the day.

2234
01:42:52,812 --> 01:42:55,172
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well you sound like a great parent, Rachelle.

2235
01:42:55,173 --> 01:42:56,132
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for sharing.

2236
01:42:56,213 --> 01:42:57,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a great caller.

2237
01:42:57,213 --> 01:42:58,932
Speaker 2: After that call, I'm going to cut the youngest off.

2238
01:43:00,053 --> 01:43:04,333
Speaker 2: I'm going to cut him off. No, no more spoiling

2239
01:43:04,333 --> 01:43:05,293
Speaker 2: the youngest, Just.

2240
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Speaker 3: Buy him what he wants. One hundred and eighty ten

2241
01:43:07,452 --> 01:43:08,972
Speaker 3: eighty is the number of call. What do you need

2242
01:43:09,013 --> 01:43:12,013
Speaker 3: to take off as a parent before your children are

2243
01:43:12,053 --> 01:43:14,013
Speaker 3: set up for adulthood and for life? Love to hear

2244
01:43:14,013 --> 01:43:15,692
Speaker 3: from you? It is twenty one to four.

2245
01:43:16,372 --> 01:43:19,253
Speaker 1: It's a fresh take on talk back. It's Matt Heath

2246
01:43:19,333 --> 01:43:22,892
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons. Have your say on eight hundred

2247
01:43:22,973 --> 01:43:24,492
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty us talk.

2248
01:43:24,412 --> 01:43:26,532
Speaker 3: There'd be afternoon. It's eighteen to four.

2249
01:43:26,652 --> 01:43:29,133
Speaker 2: The sexy says, kids remembering the time you spent with them,

2250
01:43:29,173 --> 01:43:31,133
Speaker 2: not what you spent on them. That's from Steve. It's

2251
01:43:31,133 --> 01:43:34,652
Speaker 2: beautiful text. But sometimes to have anything to spend on

2252
01:43:34,692 --> 01:43:36,532
Speaker 2: your kids, you have to spend time away from It's

2253
01:43:36,532 --> 01:43:40,132
Speaker 2: a big catch. Twenty two in life. Yeah, that's you,

2254
01:43:40,133 --> 01:43:43,173
Speaker 2: you know, but then again, you can normally find some time.

2255
01:43:43,213 --> 01:43:45,412
Speaker 2: The problem is when you work really hard to provide

2256
01:43:45,412 --> 01:43:47,173
Speaker 2: the things for your kids then go home and sit

2257
01:43:47,253 --> 01:43:49,492
Speaker 2: on your phone on the couch and not spend time

2258
01:43:49,532 --> 01:43:50,253
Speaker 2: with them when you could.

2259
01:43:50,372 --> 01:43:52,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I remember when the old man brought me

2260
01:43:52,652 --> 01:43:53,692
Speaker 3: a car. That was a good moment.

2261
01:43:53,853 --> 01:43:55,812
Speaker 2: Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

2262
01:43:55,812 --> 01:43:57,732
Speaker 2: to call, Kevin, Welcome to the show.

2263
01:43:58,772 --> 01:44:02,253
Speaker 25: Good evening, h sorry even yet afternoon, gentlemen. I just

2264
01:44:02,973 --> 01:44:05,852
Speaker 25: my thoughts are that you just never know sometimes exactly

2265
01:44:06,093 --> 01:44:07,732
Speaker 25: what our kids think of us at the end of

2266
01:44:07,772 --> 01:44:11,933
Speaker 25: the day when they leave home and move on, and

2267
01:44:11,933 --> 01:44:15,173
Speaker 25: and how they rate you, and so what if you've

2268
01:44:15,213 --> 01:44:17,852
Speaker 25: gone to to make sure that they had a as

2269
01:44:17,933 --> 01:44:21,412
Speaker 25: easy as possible up becoming bringing, and that that would

2270
01:44:21,933 --> 01:44:26,452
Speaker 25: anyone would would want. It wasn't until my middle son

2271
01:44:27,732 --> 01:44:33,333
Speaker 25: was sleep to represent competition for a Butcher of the

2272
01:44:33,412 --> 01:44:36,372
Speaker 25: Year in New Zealand and they had an assignment which

2273
01:44:36,412 --> 01:44:38,732
Speaker 25: they had to have a speech in front of the audience.

2274
01:44:39,572 --> 01:44:41,772
Speaker 25: There was four to five hundred people there at the

2275
01:44:41,812 --> 01:44:46,932
Speaker 25: dinner and he got up and he spoke, and it

2276
01:44:46,973 --> 01:44:51,973
Speaker 25: was the theme was of someone you admire and his

2277
01:44:52,093 --> 01:44:53,813
Speaker 25: first words were, my dad.

2278
01:44:54,572 --> 01:44:56,612
Speaker 2: Wow, that that would hit you and the heart right there.

2279
01:44:56,652 --> 01:45:02,133
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I was a messing it given.

2280
01:45:04,572 --> 01:45:06,532
Speaker 25: And then he just went on. You know, the honesty

2281
01:45:07,173 --> 01:45:12,772
Speaker 25: reliance was in the life teachings. It was pretty pretty

2282
01:45:12,772 --> 01:45:15,092
Speaker 25: out there. It was pretty emotional for the whole way through.

2283
01:45:16,133 --> 01:45:18,092
Speaker 25: And he got a standing ovationure when he finished.

2284
01:45:18,333 --> 01:45:20,532
Speaker 2: That was your standing ovation as well, Kevin. There was

2285
01:45:20,532 --> 01:45:21,612
Speaker 2: a standing ovation for you.

2286
01:45:22,692 --> 01:45:24,293
Speaker 25: Yeah. And here's my fishing buddy.

2287
01:45:24,732 --> 01:45:26,452
Speaker 2: Oh mate, that's beautiful buddy.

2288
01:45:26,812 --> 01:45:29,333
Speaker 25: And that was when he was twenty and he's thirty

2289
01:45:29,452 --> 01:45:31,372
Speaker 25: nine now and we go away to get a fishing

2290
01:45:31,372 --> 01:45:34,852
Speaker 25: on the boat. And the other three kids are the

2291
01:45:34,853 --> 01:45:38,692
Speaker 25: other two kids older and younger, exactly the same. And

2292
01:45:38,732 --> 01:45:41,452
Speaker 25: we supported them when they were kids. If they wanted

2293
01:45:41,492 --> 01:45:44,892
Speaker 25: a vehicle, we would put up a thousand dollars. And

2294
01:45:44,933 --> 01:45:49,253
Speaker 25: then they had worked, had a jobs. They worked to

2295
01:45:49,293 --> 01:45:52,692
Speaker 25: get the money that they wanted for the car, and

2296
01:45:52,772 --> 01:45:54,972
Speaker 25: they weren't allowed to wreck. It had to be something decent.

2297
01:45:55,093 --> 01:45:58,253
Speaker 25: So they worked for another two years part time after

2298
01:45:58,293 --> 01:46:01,092
Speaker 25: school to get themselves where they.

2299
01:46:00,933 --> 01:46:01,293
Speaker 8: Have to be.

2300
01:46:01,772 --> 01:46:03,812
Speaker 25: They have a decent car, and then went on from

2301
01:46:03,893 --> 01:46:07,173
Speaker 25: there and all three of them really successful in there.

2302
01:46:07,492 --> 01:46:12,253
Speaker 25: When they chose trades. So it's really really good and

2303
01:46:12,293 --> 01:46:14,772
Speaker 25: it's nice to have that feedback sometimes. And every time

2304
01:46:14,772 --> 01:46:18,412
Speaker 25: we see each other, it's a hug, it's a man handshake,

2305
01:46:18,933 --> 01:46:20,572
Speaker 25: and it's I love you now.

2306
01:46:20,612 --> 01:46:22,932
Speaker 2: When you when you have this beautiful story, Kevin, when

2307
01:46:22,933 --> 01:46:26,012
Speaker 2: you were listening to that speech, one of five hundred people,

2308
01:46:26,253 --> 01:46:29,572
Speaker 2: obviously you wet your face. You'd have to that that

2309
01:46:29,572 --> 01:46:32,293
Speaker 2: that would be. But did any did you manage did

2310
01:46:32,372 --> 01:46:35,133
Speaker 2: any whimpering noises come out, with any explosions?

2311
01:46:37,532 --> 01:46:37,772
Speaker 7: It was.

2312
01:46:40,053 --> 01:46:42,173
Speaker 25: A big dive in the pocket for the henky.

2313
01:46:43,732 --> 01:46:47,133
Speaker 2: You're a great man, Kevin. Congratulations on your children. Fantastic,

2314
01:46:47,133 --> 01:46:53,333
Speaker 2: what a great what a great thing this year. There's

2315
01:46:53,333 --> 01:46:55,612
Speaker 2: something that I've noticed, you know, when it comes to speeches,

2316
01:46:55,652 --> 01:46:58,213
Speaker 2: this is the other way around. You know, when someone retires,

2317
01:46:58,213 --> 01:47:02,093
Speaker 2: a sporting legend retires, or a politician retires, or or

2318
01:47:02,093 --> 01:47:04,852
Speaker 2: whoever is accepting an award, and when they're speaking, they

2319
01:47:04,853 --> 01:47:07,013
Speaker 2: hold it together talking about the professional side of it,

2320
01:47:07,333 --> 01:47:10,053
Speaker 2: and they hold it together talking about their career, but

2321
01:47:10,093 --> 01:47:12,412
Speaker 2: as soon as they bring up their wife and kids

2322
01:47:13,133 --> 01:47:16,093
Speaker 2: or their husband and kids, that's when they break. That's

2323
01:47:16,093 --> 01:47:18,092
Speaker 2: when they can't get through to the end of the speech.

2324
01:47:18,173 --> 01:47:21,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where the emotion sets in. It's a beautiful thing.

2325
01:47:21,532 --> 01:47:23,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, and kem welcome to the show.

2326
01:47:26,612 --> 01:47:29,013
Speaker 5: You're a recorderer. I just turned the radio off so

2327
01:47:29,013 --> 01:47:30,772
Speaker 5: it doesn't repeat.

2328
01:47:31,093 --> 01:47:31,333
Speaker 8: Hey.

2329
01:47:32,133 --> 01:47:34,852
Speaker 5: So I had my children and they're cool children, but

2330
01:47:34,893 --> 01:47:37,532
Speaker 5: I remember I just had one. I could call it

2331
01:47:37,612 --> 01:47:41,013
Speaker 5: a wish to put good kids out there, and I

2332
01:47:41,053 --> 01:47:43,412
Speaker 5: believe I have. But he was the thing. As soon

2333
01:47:43,412 --> 01:47:45,732
Speaker 5: as I had my first one, I thought, oh my god,

2334
01:47:45,732 --> 01:47:47,812
Speaker 5: I'm going to leave. You know, they're gonna grow up,

2335
01:47:47,812 --> 01:47:50,812
Speaker 5: They're going to leave me. And I was grieving then.

2336
01:47:51,333 --> 01:47:53,572
Speaker 5: So I said, he was the first one. He's silly

2337
01:47:53,652 --> 01:47:57,092
Speaker 5: forty now. So I set myself up. I said, okay,

2338
01:47:57,133 --> 01:48:00,532
Speaker 5: I've got to have an interest. So over the years

2339
01:48:00,652 --> 01:48:02,892
Speaker 5: I picked up all these interests. I mean, it was

2340
01:48:02,933 --> 01:48:06,053
Speaker 5: a big gap when my last one the edist twenty one,

2341
01:48:06,253 --> 01:48:09,852
Speaker 5: and but I had these interests. I mean, I think

2342
01:48:09,933 --> 01:48:13,852
Speaker 5: karaoke badly, you know, I read, I do all that stuff,

2343
01:48:13,853 --> 01:48:17,013
Speaker 5: and that was to pull that gap. Then inevitably, I

2344
01:48:17,093 --> 01:48:22,652
Speaker 5: knew what happened, So you know I did it work absolutely.

2345
01:48:22,853 --> 01:48:23,333
Speaker 7: I tell you what.

2346
01:48:24,572 --> 01:48:25,732
Speaker 2: Film five kids?

2347
01:48:25,812 --> 01:48:26,732
Speaker 13: Yeah no, not.

2348
01:48:26,652 --> 01:48:31,012
Speaker 5: Really, the last one after about six months ago. That's

2349
01:48:31,013 --> 01:48:35,293
Speaker 5: my emptiness and then I got over myself, and it's like, whoa, it's.

2350
01:48:36,253 --> 01:48:38,492
Speaker 2: Have you ever taken a moment to just feel proud

2351
01:48:38,492 --> 01:48:42,612
Speaker 2: of yourself for successfully bringing up five five humans and

2352
01:48:42,973 --> 01:48:44,052
Speaker 2: releasing them into the world.

2353
01:48:44,133 --> 01:48:46,892
Speaker 5: Every morning when I did my cutting, yet I was

2354
01:48:46,893 --> 01:48:49,053
Speaker 5: grateful that I actually every day I would wake up

2355
01:48:49,093 --> 01:48:51,452
Speaker 5: and I was doing it all the game. But here's

2356
01:48:51,492 --> 01:48:53,772
Speaker 5: something that happened to me. So I had my kids,

2357
01:48:54,053 --> 01:48:57,372
Speaker 5: then I had my upples, my grandchildren. My kids were

2358
01:48:57,492 --> 01:49:01,732
Speaker 5: my heart, but my mapels are soulful. That's the difference.

2359
01:49:02,333 --> 01:49:03,733
Speaker 2: Beautiful, that's beautiful.

2360
01:49:04,213 --> 01:49:07,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, plenty of teas coming through on nine to nine two.

2361
01:49:07,692 --> 01:49:11,932
Speaker 3: Will get to a of those shortly, and how are you?

2362
01:49:12,973 --> 01:49:13,133
Speaker 10: Hi?

2363
01:49:13,253 --> 01:49:13,492
Speaker 21: Good?

2364
01:49:13,492 --> 01:49:14,293
Speaker 26: Thank you?

2365
01:49:14,333 --> 01:49:16,253
Speaker 3: Now you've raised three girls, is that right?

2366
01:49:17,412 --> 01:49:21,612
Speaker 26: That's correct. They are raising their own families now, but

2367
01:49:22,253 --> 01:49:26,732
Speaker 26: just wanted to share the story. Whenever they got ice creams,

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Speaker 26: were like, right from an early age, ice creams or

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Speaker 26: packets of chips or anything, we always used to take

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Speaker 26: a handful of chips or a look at the ice cream.

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Speaker 26: And so it's texts for the text man. And so

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01:49:39,452 --> 01:49:42,973
Speaker 26: they have grown up thinking that, you know, whatever, they

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01:49:43,053 --> 01:49:46,093
Speaker 26: have to give something back, and they are now doing

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01:49:46,093 --> 01:49:48,772
Speaker 26: it with this grandchildren, which is funny to see.

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01:49:49,532 --> 01:49:51,213
Speaker 2: That's funny you should say that because I've done that

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01:49:51,253 --> 01:49:52,932
Speaker 2: to my kids. Whenever they've got a packet of chips

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01:49:52,973 --> 01:49:55,612
Speaker 2: or something, always grab one and say text man, I

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01:49:55,612 --> 01:49:57,812
Speaker 2: don't know where I got it from, but I've always

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01:49:57,812 --> 01:49:58,173
Speaker 2: done that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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01:50:01,692 --> 01:50:03,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, that certainly sets them off. It sets them up

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01:50:04,013 --> 01:50:05,972
Speaker 3: for the real world. Thank you very much. A. That's lovely.

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01:50:06,333 --> 01:50:09,253
Speaker 2: We've got some what's their time right now? We've got

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01:50:09,692 --> 01:50:12,253
Speaker 2: full lines in the Texas is like a subject that

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01:50:12,293 --> 01:50:13,692
Speaker 2: you go for days.

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01:50:13,853 --> 01:50:16,253
Speaker 3: It could do. Yeah, yeah, should we take one more

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01:50:16,293 --> 01:50:19,532
Speaker 3: before we got to play some messages? Pizer? How are

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01:50:19,572 --> 01:50:21,013
Speaker 3: you Hi?

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01:50:21,013 --> 01:50:21,973
Speaker 27: I am good, Thank you?

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01:50:22,013 --> 01:50:22,852
Speaker 1: How are you good?

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01:50:22,933 --> 01:50:26,093
Speaker 5: Nice to check Yeah, it's my first.

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01:50:25,692 --> 01:50:28,052
Speaker 27: Time on the radio. I don't know why I called,

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01:50:28,053 --> 01:50:28,812
Speaker 27: but oh my god, I.

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01:50:28,772 --> 01:50:29,173
Speaker 9: Got on.

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01:50:30,652 --> 01:50:33,932
Speaker 3: And welcome in. And what's your thoughts about that checklist

2396
01:50:33,973 --> 01:50:35,972
Speaker 3: you need to take off to make sure your kids

2397
01:50:35,973 --> 01:50:37,372
Speaker 3: are going to be good adults.

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01:50:38,133 --> 01:50:41,253
Speaker 27: I think that we need, especially with our boys, we

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01:50:41,293 --> 01:50:43,253
Speaker 27: need to make sure that our heads grow up to

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01:50:43,293 --> 01:50:49,133
Speaker 27: be resilient. Yeah, and disciplined because I just kind of

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01:50:49,173 --> 01:50:51,372
Speaker 27: I just feel I mean, I was born in New

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01:50:51,452 --> 01:50:55,492
Speaker 27: Zealand to immigrant parents, and I have two stop year

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01:50:55,492 --> 01:50:59,013
Speaker 27: old boys and a under one daughter, and I just

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01:50:59,013 --> 01:51:03,173
Speaker 27: feel like they're so immersed and social media and YouTube

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01:51:03,173 --> 01:51:04,573
Speaker 27: that they actually don't.

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01:51:04,333 --> 01:51:05,333
Speaker 7: Know what it's like.

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01:51:05,333 --> 01:51:08,572
Speaker 27: To put it in the work and just you know,

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01:51:08,772 --> 01:51:12,492
Speaker 27: be just be motivated and actually think about careers and

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01:51:12,532 --> 01:51:14,492
Speaker 27: all of that. Although you know, like I mean, like

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01:51:15,053 --> 01:51:19,333
Speaker 27: you know, it depends on what goals are their goals are, respectively,

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01:51:19,452 --> 01:51:23,733
Speaker 27: but still I just think that they deal with resilience

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01:51:24,173 --> 01:51:25,133
Speaker 27: and discipline.

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01:51:25,572 --> 01:51:28,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and how's sorry, how's that gone so far?

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01:51:30,812 --> 01:51:32,852
Speaker 27: I mean, because I've got two steps I've got one

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01:51:32,893 --> 01:51:36,572
Speaker 27: step son and my actual biological sons. They're both twelve.

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01:51:37,893 --> 01:51:41,372
Speaker 27: And it's quite interesting because obviously one's a product of

2417
01:51:41,412 --> 01:51:45,772
Speaker 27: my environment and upbringing. The other ones quite influenced by

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01:51:45,853 --> 01:51:48,812
Speaker 27: his dad because he writes it as a single that

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01:51:49,013 --> 01:51:51,492
Speaker 27: and so my son, I would say, he's a little

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01:51:51,492 --> 01:51:53,692
Speaker 27: bit more academic and he knows that, you know, he

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01:51:53,732 --> 01:51:58,253
Speaker 27: needs to try at school and you know he needs everything.

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01:51:58,293 --> 01:52:01,293
Speaker 27: In the horror, it's not going to get done for him.

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01:52:01,412 --> 01:52:03,532
Speaker 27: He has to do it himself. He is for the evidence,

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01:52:03,732 --> 01:52:06,732
Speaker 27: where it's the other ones a little bit more towards sports,

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01:52:06,732 --> 01:52:09,972
Speaker 27: which is fine. It's great, but it's just like it's

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01:52:10,053 --> 01:52:12,493
Speaker 27: just like, you know, they're a little bit too demanded,

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01:52:13,372 --> 01:52:18,932
Speaker 27: and you know, they just expect things without really thinking

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01:52:18,973 --> 01:52:23,173
Speaker 27: about whether they deserve it as well. And it's quite

2429
01:52:23,213 --> 01:52:25,572
Speaker 27: like different to my upbringing where like, you know, my

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01:52:25,652 --> 01:52:28,532
Speaker 27: parents obviously said of me whatever I wanted when I

2431
01:52:28,692 --> 01:52:32,213
Speaker 27: was younger. I'm still i would say, like a charity child.

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01:52:32,253 --> 01:52:35,213
Speaker 27: Our dad he moved to New Zealand when he was fourteen,

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01:52:35,412 --> 01:52:39,213
Speaker 27: and basically we all we're four siblings and we all

2434
01:52:39,253 --> 01:52:43,892
Speaker 27: share a driveway. We've got our own individual properties on

2435
01:52:43,933 --> 01:52:47,093
Speaker 27: a shared driveway. Yeah yeah, and he he provided that

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01:52:47,293 --> 01:52:47,732
Speaker 27: for us.

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01:52:48,093 --> 01:52:50,253
Speaker 14: We wouldn't have those, Yeah, we wouldn't.

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01:52:50,492 --> 01:52:53,053
Speaker 27: And we're neighbors, which is great, like because you know,

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01:52:53,093 --> 01:52:56,213
Speaker 27: it means I've got child care twenty four to seven.

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01:52:56,333 --> 01:52:56,812
Speaker 10: Essentially.

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01:52:56,893 --> 01:52:59,333
Speaker 27: My mom's just at the front house and my sister's

2442
01:52:59,333 --> 01:53:02,092
Speaker 27: in the back house. And it's a great little community

2443
01:53:02,133 --> 01:53:04,572
Speaker 27: that we live in. But I just think that, you know,

2444
01:53:04,652 --> 01:53:08,213
Speaker 27: now a kind of consequence for having book heads having

2445
01:53:08,372 --> 01:53:11,572
Speaker 27: everything at the getupches that they actually forget to work hard.

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01:53:12,053 --> 01:53:13,572
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's a good point. You know, you

2447
01:53:13,612 --> 01:53:15,612
Speaker 2: got you definitely don't want to bring up wines and

2448
01:53:15,652 --> 01:53:17,652
Speaker 2: you definitely want to bring your kids up to understand

2449
01:53:17,652 --> 01:53:21,253
Speaker 2: that they have to work hard for things. Absolutely, Well,

2450
01:53:21,293 --> 01:53:23,372
Speaker 2: what a fantastic shat it is if I can, if

2451
01:53:23,412 --> 01:53:25,572
Speaker 2: I can zero it down into what we come up

2452
01:53:25,572 --> 01:53:28,012
Speaker 2: with with kids. You've got to feed them, house them,

2453
01:53:28,692 --> 01:53:31,812
Speaker 2: give them what you can. But also you've really got

2454
01:53:31,853 --> 01:53:34,213
Speaker 2: to be reliable and honest and spend as much time

2455
01:53:34,213 --> 01:53:34,812
Speaker 2: with them as you can.

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01:53:34,973 --> 01:53:37,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a great chat. It is eight minutes to

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01:53:37,372 --> 01:53:40,532
Speaker 3: fall back. Very shortly. You're listening to Matton Tyler the.

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01:53:40,372 --> 01:53:43,612
Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, to the big trends and

2459
01:53:43,853 --> 01:53:48,732
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons, Excused TALKSB.

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01:53:49,732 --> 01:53:52,532
Speaker 3: News talks there B. It is six minutes to for

2461
01:53:52,692 --> 01:53:53,772
Speaker 3: what a great show today.

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01:53:54,253 --> 01:53:57,812
Speaker 2: Someone texted me through just then then said Matt, look,

2463
01:53:57,853 --> 01:54:01,452
Speaker 2: you're celebrating that you're an amazing father because you're your

2464
01:54:01,492 --> 01:54:04,173
Speaker 2: son's eighteen and you're very proud of him and you

2465
01:54:04,173 --> 01:54:06,612
Speaker 2: think he's a great man. And he passed his driving test.

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01:54:07,133 --> 01:54:09,293
Speaker 2: But then they pointed out, did you teach him how

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01:54:09,293 --> 01:54:10,333
Speaker 2: to drive a manual car?

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01:54:11,053 --> 01:54:11,732
Speaker 3: Did you know?

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01:54:12,893 --> 01:54:15,093
Speaker 2: So? So that makes me less of a great dad.

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01:54:15,772 --> 01:54:21,893
Speaker 2: He had the easy pasy cameras. No hell starts automatic

2471
01:54:22,053 --> 01:54:25,172
Speaker 2: and break automatic car with all the bells and whistles,

2472
01:54:25,213 --> 01:54:26,333
Speaker 2: basically drives itself for us.

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01:54:26,372 --> 01:54:28,493
Speaker 3: We're still hated in one though, which is impressive.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's a good moment, mate, it's a good moment.

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01:54:30,572 --> 01:54:33,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brave. You know, I want to how many kids

2477
01:54:33,053 --> 01:54:35,173
Speaker 2: are sitting there the driver's license now in manual cars?

2478
01:54:35,173 --> 01:54:36,012
Speaker 3: Not many anyway.

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01:54:36,013 --> 01:54:38,333
Speaker 2: I was an emotional hour, and I mentioned Tyler will

2480
01:54:38,373 --> 01:54:40,333
Speaker 2: be going home right now and trying to create some kids.

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01:54:40,373 --> 01:54:44,333
Speaker 3: That's the plan absolutely after that, Chad, I want several babies. Absolutely.

2482
01:54:45,933 --> 01:54:48,573
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the show. The

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01:54:48,613 --> 01:54:50,693
Speaker 2: full show podcast will be up in about an hour

2484
01:54:50,772 --> 01:54:53,533
Speaker 2: or so if you have missed any of it. So

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01:54:53,613 --> 01:54:56,373
Speaker 2: he had some great calls today. The Paul Holmes Broadcaster

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01:54:56,533 --> 01:55:01,013
Speaker 2: of the Year will be with you next here the

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01:55:01,093 --> 01:55:05,772
Speaker 2: dooplus y Ellen. But right now, Tyler, Oh mate, why

2488
01:55:05,812 --> 01:55:06,653
Speaker 2: am I playing this song?

2489
01:55:06,733 --> 01:55:11,852
Speaker 3: Kat Stevens father and son. What a beautiful song. I'm

2490
01:55:11,853 --> 01:55:13,012
Speaker 3: gonna need some tissues again.

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01:55:13,293 --> 01:55:14,733
Speaker 2: One of the greatest moments in my life is when

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01:55:14,733 --> 01:55:17,533
Speaker 2: I took my son to see Kat Stephens life and

2493
01:55:18,413 --> 01:55:20,613
Speaker 2: I had my arm around him. Well, he sang the

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01:55:20,653 --> 01:55:22,933
Speaker 2: song with me watching Kat Stevens. Yeah, the one that

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01:55:23,013 --> 01:55:26,013
Speaker 2: passed his driver's license today. Ellie, what I wet my

2496
01:55:26,053 --> 01:55:26,693
Speaker 2: face that day?

2497
01:55:26,733 --> 01:55:28,693
Speaker 3: I just bloody dried my ice. Thank you very much.

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01:55:28,733 --> 01:55:29,733
Speaker 3: But what a beautiful song.

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01:55:29,812 --> 01:55:31,533
Speaker 2: One of the greatest songs of all time. Thank you

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01:55:31,533 --> 01:55:35,653
Speaker 2: so much for listening. See you tomorrow. Until then, give

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01:55:35,693 --> 01:55:37,653
Speaker 2: him a taste of Kiwik all.

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01:55:37,653 --> 01:55:39,653
Speaker 3: Things and you've inside.

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01:55:40,013 --> 01:55:48,333
Speaker 2: It's hard, but it's hard to win. Nore fate.

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01:55:50,013 --> 01:55:55,253
Speaker 18: That is them, lito, not mean no, that's away, And

2505
01:55:55,413 --> 01:55:58,293
Speaker 18: I know that I have.

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01:55:58,053 --> 01:56:03,453
Speaker 2: To go away. I know I have to go.

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