1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: early edition with ex Pole insulation, keeping keeping Holmes warm 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: and tray this winter news talks. 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: That'd be good morning. It is Monday, the twenty third 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: of June. Just gone six after five, Our lead interview 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: before six this morning, Judith Collins is on the program. 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: Defense Minister. We've got Defense Force personnel in the Middle 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: East at the moment on joint operations under US command. 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: So what happens to them if Iran retaliates? We'll ask 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: the minister before six. Also the latest on Operation Midnight Hammer, 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: that's what the Yanks are calling it. In the UK. 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 2: Our Corey Gavin Gray is with us. Were the Brits 13 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: involved in this military operation? And also I'll ask him 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: about this new poll on reform the party that's just 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 2: absolutely blitzing the field one year into Labour's reign. Andrew 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: Allison on super rugby dog attacks on the rise here 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 2: in New Zealand. And more aid for Ukraine. That's from 18 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: luxon who over in Europe at the moment, Just gone 19 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: seven after five the agenda, So Trump says the strikes 20 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 2: on the three nuclear sites in Iran were a success. 21 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 3: Iran's key nuclear and Richmond facilities have been completely and 22 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: totally obliterated around the bully of the Middle East must 23 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:20,639 Speaker 3: now make peace. 24 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: Can you really say they're obliterated. We'll talk about that 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: a little later in the program too. Iran warning of 26 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: everlasting consequences after this betrayal from the US. 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 4: The war mong green and lawless administration in Washington is 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 4: solely and fully responsible for the dangerous consequences and far 29 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 4: riching implement implications are its act of aggression. 30 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: You'll feel relieved to know that the UN Security Council 31 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: is going to have a meeting today that will solve things. 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: At least eight people have died in a hot air 33 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: balloon accident in southern Brazil, but thirteen including the pilots, survived. 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 3: Holballos are having a fire of this magnitude is quite rare, 35 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 3: but there have been other unfortunate hotter balloon air tour accidents. 36 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: Back home. The Crusaders beat the Chiefs and the Super 37 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 2: Rugby Pacific final redemption for coach Rob Penny. 38 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 5: What is fantastic? 39 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 6: Just been part of a group small to cold in 40 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 6: the wheel The pride is without saying and yeah, the 41 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 6: moment it's a wonderful one. 42 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: That's your agenda for Monday morning. 43 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth 44 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: analysis earlier this shar with Ryan Bridge and ex Bowl 45 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and dry. This winter news talks. 46 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: A'd be well, that was always going to happen, wasn't it? 47 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: What happened what the United States did at the weekend, 48 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: because well, just the soundings that you were getting from 49 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: the White House were increasingly ominous throughout the last week. Interestingly, 50 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: Jade Varns has said overnight in this interview that the 51 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: goal of the operation was just to stop the nuclear program. 52 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: This is not about despite what some people were saying 53 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: over the last coup twenty four hours, this was not 54 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: about changing the regime in Iran. 55 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 7: The main strike package, comprised of seven B two Spirit bombers, 56 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 7: each with two crew members, proceeded quietly to the east 57 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 7: with minimal communications. Once over land, the B twos linked 58 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 7: up with escort and support aircraft in a complex, tightly 59 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 7: timed maneuver requiring exact synchronization across multiple platforms in a 60 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 7: narrow piece of airspace, all done with minimal communications. 61 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 8: Our B twos went in and out and back without 62 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 8: the world knowing at all. In that way, it was historic. 63 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: Well we did know, didn't we We knew about the 64 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: ones going over the Pacific because we had these warnings 65 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: on Sundays saying, hey, there's a B two bomba's going 66 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: over the Pacific. But that was intentional. They were the decoys. 67 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: The real ones were going from Missouri. Now, this is 68 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: Jettie Vance talking about the goal of the Operation at War. 69 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 8: With Iran's nuclear program, and what we did is we 70 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 8: destroyed the. 71 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: Iranian nuclear program. 72 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 8: I think we set that program back substantially, and we 73 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 8: did it without endangering the lives of the American pilots. 74 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. So have they done that? Have they? No doubt 75 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 2: they've taken it back, the nuclear program. You know, they've 76 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 2: They've given a good kick in the goolies, but it 77 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: even got rid of it, have they. I Mean, Iran 78 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: has shown us time and time again that not only 79 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: are they capable when it comes to nuclear and uranium enrichment, 80 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: but they are quite determined, aren't they. I Mean, there's 81 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 2: not much that puts them off. Just gone ten minutes 82 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 2: after five anyway, we'll talk about that with jud Collins, 83 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: A little later in the program, and we will have 84 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 2: a correspondent from the United States as well. I want 85 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: to talk to you about dog attacks. I've had a 86 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: friend whose dog has been attacked. In fact, that's the 87 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: second friend of mine whose dog has been attacked by 88 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: one of these mongral ones. So what do we do 89 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: about this? Nine two ninety two is the number to text. 90 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: Apparently the council's have gone a bit soft because they 91 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: get worried, to get concerned what the owners will of 92 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: the dogs will do if they destroy them. So instead 93 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 2: of actually taking action, they just fob it off to 94 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: the courts and then you're going to go through a 95 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 2: whole court process. Takes you months, maybe years to get 96 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: through that, and the dog stays alive during that process, 97 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 2: the dog that's attacked your dog or attacked you, which 98 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 2: seems crazy to me. Nine the numbers of text. We'll 99 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: talk about that a little bit later on just gone 100 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: eleven after five. 101 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on a early edition with 102 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and x Fole Insulation keeping Kiwi homes warm 103 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: and dry this winter news talks. 104 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: That'd be just gone five thirteen. So some numbers for you. 105 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: This is just from Auckland. Nearly three thousand dog attacks 106 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: were recorded on animals and humans across the city last 107 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: year three thousand. That's up more than one thousand on 108 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 2: twenty twenty numbers. Basically, this is a problem that we've 109 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: heard about for a while now, COVID lockdowns. Everyone winning 110 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: god animal couldn't look after it bred well. They just 111 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 2: started going at it with one another. And then we've 112 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 2: got fewer animals being d six, we've got more unregistered 113 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: dogs and now we have a balloon, a ballooning in 114 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 2: the number of animals, particularly dangerous ones, dog control offices 115 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: on the front line. This is according to the Herald. 116 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 2: They've got a story out this morning. Apparently not just 117 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: aggressive animals, but threats and abuse from the owners are 118 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: on the increase as well, so that's delightful. The areas 119 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: to look out for Mony Day were recorded more than 120 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: two hundred attacks last year alone, seven hundred across the 121 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: last five years. Papa Couda one hundred and eighty attacks 122 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: last year, six hundred and thirty eight over the last 123 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: five years. The paper points out it's not because they're 124 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 2: poor areas necessarily, just because they are highly populated ones 125 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: with high dog ownership. But I'm sorry. If you've got 126 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 2: a dog that is attacking someone or has attacked someone 127 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: or another dog and drawn blood, I mean, I undertink 128 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 2: they should be put down, don't you. 129 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge. 130 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: It's gone quarter past five News Talk set B. US 131 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: Defense Secretary Pete Higgsith says the US strikes on three 132 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: nuclear sites in Iran were an overwhelming success. 133 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 8: We devastated the Iranian nuclear program. But it's worth noting 134 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 8: the operation did not target Iranian troops, so the Iranian 135 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 8: people now. 136 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: Earlier, Trump told Iran to quote make peace or face 137 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: far greater attacks in the future. Tony Waterman is the 138 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: US correspondent feature story in News with Me this morning. Tony, 139 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: good morning, Good morning. So we've heard about the strikes. 140 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: We've heard about the way that this happened. Quite a 141 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: few aircraft were involved and some decoys. 142 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, you're right. We've got a lot of detail in 143 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 9: that press briefing by the Defense Secretary earlier today, including 144 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 9: the fact that this mission actually started at midnight on 145 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 9: Friday with this group of B two stealth bombers leaving 146 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 9: a military base in the US state of Missouri, and 147 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 9: that group actually split into two one acting as this 148 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 9: decoy flying over the Pacific. The other group heading east 149 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 9: that consisted of seven B two bombers, and they made 150 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 9: this eighteen hour flight to the target areas and they 151 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 9: use these bunker busting bombs, fourteen of them, most of 152 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,119 Speaker 9: them dropped on the four dau enrichment site. We also 153 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 9: learned that a Navy submarine in the Persian Gulf fired 154 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 9: off two dozen Tomahawk missiles as part of this attack, 155 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 9: hitting that Islafan site, and the Defense Secretary saying that 156 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 9: this entire operation lasted twenty five minutes and that it 157 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 9: seemed as if nobody on the ground was aware of 158 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 9: what was happening. He said that there were no shots 159 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 9: fired from the Iranian side. Pete Hegseth also saying that 160 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 9: the objective of this operation was not about regime change, 161 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 9: but about taking out Iran's nuclear capabilit Can. 162 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: I say definitively that I've done that. 163 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 9: Well, it's all about the wording. The President last night, 164 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 9: in this national address, said that the military had completely 165 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 9: obliterated these nuclear sites. Pete Hegseth used some of the 166 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 9: same language, but at one point he said that the 167 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 9: United States had taken out Iran's nuclear ambitions, which is 168 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 9: very different from completely getting rid of their nuclear capabilities. 169 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 9: And then General dan Kin, who was the chairman of 170 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 9: the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that there is this 171 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 9: battle damage assessment that's underway right now, that all three 172 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 9: of these sites have been extremely damaged, but that it 173 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,239 Speaker 9: was way too soon to know whether Iran still retains 174 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 9: some nuclear capability. And of course, we had these satellite 175 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 9: images showing this caravan of lorries at the sites in 176 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 9: the days ahead of these strikes, so it's feasible that 177 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 9: some of this material or some of the equipment may 178 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 9: have been moved. And in fact, it's exactly what Iranian 179 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 9: state media is saying, that these locations were completely empty 180 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 9: when the strikes took place. 181 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: And what about Iran's capability for retaliation? What ammunition have 182 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: they got? Where is the US most worried about them attacking? 183 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 9: Well, the primary concern for US officials right now are 184 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:27,359 Speaker 9: the forty thousand plus US troops that are stationed across 185 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 9: the Middle East on ships, on land at military basis. 186 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 9: That is the primary concern in terms of retaliation. It 187 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 9: could be a whole bunch of things. What we're hearing 188 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 9: right now is that the Iranians are going to be 189 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 9: shutting down the Strait of Hormuz, which is a major 190 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 9: shipping lane to the world and also particularly for US 191 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 9: natural gas. So this is potentially going to spike oil prices, 192 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 9: sprit gas prices in hit America in its pocketbook. There's 193 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 9: also concerns that proxy groups, some sort of militias or 194 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 9: terrorist organizations could carry out attacks that either have been 195 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 9: in the works or that are newly produced. So the 196 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 9: US is very much in defense mold right now, but 197 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 9: the President and his team trying to position this as 198 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 9: a very surgical attack, that this is not part of 199 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 9: a larger war that they want to get into. 200 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: All right, Tony, appreciate your time this morning, Tony Wardman, 201 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 2: who's Fitch Story news reporter out of the United States. 202 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: It's just gone nineteen minutes after five Lots of your 203 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: texts coming in on dogs day. Take care, Tony, Lots 204 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: of the texts coming in on dogs and whether we 205 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: should ban that. You know, there are a small number 206 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 2: of quite dangerous breeds. We do have a number of 207 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: breeds that are banned already, but do we extend that 208 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 2: to include the ones who we most often hear about 209 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 2: doing the damage. Ryan Simple banned the small number of 210 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: recognized dangerous dog breeds that would solve the problem. Would 211 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: it solve the problem though? I mean, well, I suppose 212 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: if you saw one you could immediately put it down, 213 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: couldn't you? That would help grants? Is it's more the 214 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 2: owners of these dogs that are the problem. They're the 215 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 2: ones that need to be locked away and they're not 216 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 2: at present? Are they just gone? Twenty half to five year? 217 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: On News Talks hereb we are going to get to 218 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: Judith Collins before six o'clock. And Andrew Ordison next on 219 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: Super Rugby, the Warriors and the squad naming today for 220 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: the All Blacks on. 221 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: Your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with Ryan 222 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: Bridge and x full Insulation Keeping Kiey Holmes warm and 223 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: dry this winter News Talks hed B. 224 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: Five two On News Talks, head be Andrew Ordison. Here 225 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: was sport this morning? Hey, Andrew, Greeting's right? Now? Should 226 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 2: we start with the All Blacks squad named today? What 227 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 2: surprises are we expecting? Well, let's start without the surprises. 228 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 6: It's been held at the Coastal Club in Taradaki, so 229 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 6: I would have thought it would be a hell of 230 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 6: a surprise. Of well, Scott Barrett's not captain given it's 231 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 6: the home of the Barretts, and perhaps Jordi Barrett and 232 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 6: and Boden Barrett are part of that squad. But there's 233 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 6: so many sort of areas up for I guess contesting here. 234 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 6: I mean loose forwards, midfield, outside backs. Just given what 235 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 6: we've seen across the whole breadth of Super Rugby, I 236 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 6: suppose I'm interested to see where the players you haven't 237 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 6: been in that. So there's two sides that contested the 238 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 6: Super Rugby Final with the Crusaders and the Chiefs, you know, 239 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 6: the likes of your dupless Carefi and the loose forwards 240 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 6: there Christian the o'willy with Tomothi Ta Tava Nahwai might 241 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 6: stand a chance of getting into the midfield and you 242 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 6: can cover on the wing as well. Of course, from 243 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 6: the Heartlanders, it's how much they based on the individual 244 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 6: rather than you know what the combinations have been developed 245 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 6: over that Super Rugby season. But it's always an exciting 246 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 6: time of the year for I guess rugby fans with 247 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 6: the announcement of the All Blacks, and I like the 248 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 6: fact that they're going to the Coastal Club at Tarahaki, 249 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,599 Speaker 6: but going a bit off piece if you like to 250 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 6: go and announce that rather than just the formal occasion 251 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 6: that say, you know Rugby HQ. 252 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I'm looking forward to that. Now. The Crusaders, 253 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: you couldn't wipe the smile off Rob Penny faces and 254 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: you can understand why, right you can. 255 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 6: And he's been through a lot, as they're given. The 256 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 6: pressure is on and probably justifiably in some of the 257 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 6: ways last year with the way that things were going 258 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 6: for the Crusaders. But he's turned out around and you 259 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 6: know where he was given the criticism, he deserves the 260 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 6: credit now. But no confirmation as to whether he's going 261 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 6: to take that job on for the coming season or 262 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 6: next season and onwards. That will be a fascinating point 263 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 6: of I guess interest as time goes on. But he 264 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 6: was again justifiably elated. And I mean look at that record, right, 265 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 6: I mean what a thirty two or zero playoff record 266 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 6: at home in thirteen of the twenty eight Super Roby 267 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 6: Crowns have gone the way of the Crusaders, so they 268 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 6: just know how to do it and bring it and 269 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 6: the Chiefs Clan McMillan have been so close, I mean, 270 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 6: the most consistent team probably over the last three seasons, 271 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 6: making him final every time, but just unable to deliver 272 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 6: as he heads off to Munster. 273 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: Now now very quickly, the Warriors lost to the Panthers 274 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: a weekend. Panthers at the weekend that wasn't meant to happen. 275 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 6: Well, it was a bit of a surprise. Well it's 276 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 6: a surprise in a way, but then Ivan Cleary is 277 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 6: such a wily coach and he would know, I mean 278 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 6: mounts smart so well after having six spent six seasons 279 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 6: at the ground as coached the Warriors and having had 280 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 6: this relationship with Andrew Webster that the head coach of 281 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 6: the Warriors now pretty much out Fox I suppose, and 282 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 6: just yeah, convincing one for them and they needed that 283 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 6: really moving up the table the Panthers now I think 284 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 6: in eighth was seventeen points, Warriors still fourth and there 285 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 6: is a buffer of six points now for the Warriors 286 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 6: from fourth to fifth with the Broncos on eighteen Warriors 287 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 6: twenty four, so they've they're still in control there. 288 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: Brilliant Andrew good heavy on the show is always love 289 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: Mondays rining. It is twenty five minutes after five. News 290 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: Talks THEB. We'll get to a little update from the 291 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: satellite images of the bunker Buster bombs. 292 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: Next the early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 293 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: by NEWSTALKSB. 294 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: News Talks ZB. It is twenty eight minutes after five. 295 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: So we now know the Americans used seven B two 296 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: stealth bombers to attack Iran. A dozen bunker Buster bombs 297 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: were used. They flew in the dark at night, dropping 298 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: the payload just after two am local time. They fired 299 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: Tomahawk missiles from US Navy ships nearby. They call it 300 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: Operation Midnight Hammer. They claimed it was successful, but what 301 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: we don't actually know is how successful and what success 302 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: actually means. Satellite images don't show you what's happening underground. Obviously, 303 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: the bunker Buster bombs are designed to blow stuff up 304 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: around sixty meters underground. Nobody but the Iranians know exactly 305 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: how deep their enrichment facilities are hidden. Nobody knows how 306 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: thick the concrete is that they put on top of it. 307 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: It's possible that the main gups of their facilities haven't 308 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: been hit at all. Then you ask, what does success 309 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: mean if success is destroying Iran's nuclear capability. Well that 310 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 2: hasn't happened. Signists were taken out in Israel's first strikes, 311 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: but not all of them. Iran has very smart people 312 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 2: with knowledge of nuclear weapons and enrichment. China sends them 313 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: the uranium. This stripe will have set them back. But 314 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 2: this is a country who's shown time and again not 315 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: just how capable they are, but how determined they are 316 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: to have nuclear weapons. To be a nuclear state doesn't 317 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: mean the stripe wasn't worth it, of course, if they 318 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: won't negotiate, but also success depends on how you define it. 319 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 2: Bryan Bridge twenty nine after five news talks, they'd be 320 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: the reform polling numbers out of the UK. Fascinating. Gavin 321 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 2: Gray on that shortly News. 322 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: And Views you trust to start your day. It's early 323 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge at expol Insulation keeping, Kiwi, Holmes, 324 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: Ward and Drey. 325 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: This winter news talks had been Good Morning twenty four 326 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 2: minutes away from sex Yer on Newstalks, there'd be Judith Collins, 327 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 2: Defence Minister on the program I lead into view before six. 328 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: We're sending a hurt to the Middle East, What use 329 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: will it be? And why haven't you sent it already 330 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 2: one of the questions. Also, lots of texts this morning. 331 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: We'll get to Gavin Gray out of the UK as well. 332 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: Lots of texts this morning on Iran, and I don't know, 333 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 2: there seems to be quite a few people who think, 334 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 2: actually America is the bad guys here. You know, why 335 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 2: did they head Iran when we don't know for sure 336 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: for certain that they have nuclear weapons? And you're right, 337 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: we don't know for certain that they had nuclear weapons. Well, 338 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: in fact, we don't think they did have nuclear weapons, 339 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 2: and the US hasn't said that either. It's the enriching 340 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 2: the uranium that we're worried about. And how close you 341 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 2: get to being able to, you know, prop up to 342 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: propel a nuclear weapon, and the numbers, by the way, 343 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: you get to over a certain percentage and you're no 344 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 2: longer looking at a civilian purpose. And they were over that. 345 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: They weren't quite at weapons grade. They were about thirty 346 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: percent off weapons grade, so they weren't, you knowately going 347 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 2: to have a nuclear weapon in their hands. But I 348 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: guess the question for the US is how close do 349 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: you get to that line? How how tight do you 350 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: want to run this thing. And so if you've got 351 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: an opportunity to drop some bombs and set them back 352 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: a couple of years, then do you just take it? Well, 353 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: clearly they've decided that. Yees, that is the answer. Twenty 354 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: three minutes away twenty two, I should say, away from 355 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 2: six o'clock reporters around the country now Colum Proctor and 356 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: needing for us this morning, Colum, good morning morning. Right now, 357 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: you've got a lotto winner and invcargo well a ticket 358 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 2: sold from an invercargol store. Correct, that's right. 359 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 10: They could live anywhere, of course, but two players in 360 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 10: the end sheared the thirty million that was up for 361 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 10: grabs for Powerball on Saturday night. One of those tickets 362 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 10: sold in Wellington won and in the cargo. So the 363 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 10: inv cargo ticket was sold at a Plaza super Well, 364 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 10: at the Plaza Super Valued and Vicago. We know that 365 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,719 Speaker 10: the owner says he's only just taken over the store 366 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 10: and was woken by a call from as aeria manager 367 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 10: to be told the news. So he's planning big celebrations 368 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 10: this week with the staff. The ticket, though as yet, 369 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 10: is yet to be claimed. 370 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: Very interesting to see if we ever find out who 371 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: it is and you're weather today callum. 372 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 10: Yet morning cloud then fine strong Selle Westerly is the 373 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 10: high ten today, brilliant. 374 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 2: Thank you Claires and christ to shake Claire, good morning. 375 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: Now you've got some employment opportunities for us at the 376 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: Metro Sports Center. 377 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 11: Yeah, well, at all of our new sports venues. To 378 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 11: be honest, we've got two hundred people to be employed 379 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 11: at the part of cur Day Recreation and Sports Center, 380 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 11: with up to one hundred and fifty staff expected to 381 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 11: be on site at any given time. That's a facility 382 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 11: that's one of its kind. It's the only one like 383 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 11: it in the country that scheduled for opening later this 384 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 11: year in time for the Special Olympics in December. That's 385 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 11: the one we've spoken about before that's blown out to 386 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 11: cost half a billion dollars. Meanwhile, we've heard from venues 387 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 11: Auto Tahi about doubling their casual workforce. That's ahead of 388 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 11: the opening of the one New Zealand Stadium at Takaha. Now, 389 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 11: the company already employs about four hundred and fifty casuals 390 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 11: in order to service events at some of the other 391 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 11: venues like the town Hall. They're going to increase that 392 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 11: though to one thousand casuals in time for the stadium's 393 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 11: opening in April next year. 394 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: All right, how's your wear the clear. 395 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 11: Morning cloud and then find frosty by tonight Westerly is 396 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 11: easing and high. 397 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: Of eleven brilliant. Thank you Max's and Wellington Max. Good morning, 398 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,959 Speaker 2: good morning. You got questions about the second Mountwik tunnel. 399 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 5: Yes, during the post this morning. Always good to keep 400 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 5: tabs on where we're at with a big project like 401 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 5: this spades in the ground. Of course, this term was 402 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 5: the government's promise. The final funding was supposed to have 403 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 5: been determined in June, running out of time for that. 404 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 5: Until then, the Transport Agency can't look at design time 405 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 5: frame obviously cost. Therefore, you've had the Green Party asking 406 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 5: questions of the Transport Minister on whether a second tunnel 407 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 5: will even be available to pedestrians cyclists. I'm not sure, 408 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 5: was the answer from mister Bishop. A lot of people 409 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 5: walk through the existing tunnel even though it's dark and fume, 410 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 5: and a bus lane in this second time, for instance, 411 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 5: might be equally if not more important, all things that 412 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 5: are important to look at. But the clock seems to 413 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 5: be ticking on that timeframe. 414 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 2: Certainly, does it just seems like one of those things 415 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: that will never happen, although is desperately needed for anyone 416 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: who's trying to get to the airport in Wellington. How's 417 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: your wear? 418 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,959 Speaker 5: The Max mostly fine today thirteen the High Central brilliant. 419 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 2: Thank you neighbors and Auckland good morning game that morning. 420 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 8: Now. 421 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 2: Kb rawl says passenger line closures will continue in Auckland today. 422 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 12: Yes, that's right, So another day of disruption for Auckland 423 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 12: rail commuters. No trains in the city today. Now, this 424 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 12: is due to this ongoing Kiwi Rail work ahead of 425 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 12: next year City rail Link opening. So this follows that 426 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 12: full closure. This was of Auckland as well as Wellington 427 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 12: train services over the long weekend. I can't tell you though, 428 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 12: that Wellington's train services are back to normal today ours 429 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 12: Auckland due to resume tomorrow now. Kiwi Rail's David Gordon 430 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 12: says that they're working with Auckland Transport just to put 431 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 12: on some of those adequate rail replacement buses like they 432 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 12: do the other closure periods that we've had that alklors 433 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 12: know so well. 434 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're basically always buses now, aren't they? Children 435 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: confuse trains for buses these days and am just. 436 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 12: That's exactly what I was thinking, and you said that 437 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 12: you're quite right right. 438 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 2: How's that weather? 439 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 12: Partly cloudy, shells easing this afternoon, our high seventeen. 440 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 2: Have a great day, Neiva, and it's just gone eighten 441 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 2: minutes away from six o'clock. We will get to Gavin 442 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: Gray out of the UK. Couple of things for him. 443 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 2: One was the UK at all the military involved in 444 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: the strikes on Iran, you know in terms of help, support, logistics, anything, 445 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 2: this question being asked over there at the moment. And 446 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 2: also reform this pole, I'll tell you about it right now. 447 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: You know they've been they've been going up and up 448 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 2: and out. This is reforming Nigel Farage in the UK. 449 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 2: But the new IPSOS Political Monitor Pole has Reform on 450 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 2: thirty four percent, Labor that's nine points ahead of Labor 451 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: on twenty five percent, the Conservatives languishing on fifteen the 452 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 2: lowest ever in a NIPSOS poll. Kistarmer by the way, 453 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 2: one year into government and satisfaction levels are pretty much 454 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: down there in the bunker. It's eighteen two six and 455 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: Judith Collins before the N two News Talk. 456 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: SEB International Correspondence with ends in eye insurance, peace of 457 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business. 458 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 2: You've talked tob It has called it the sixth Judith 459 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 2: Colins next right now, Gavin Gray are UK europe correspondent. Gavin, 460 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: Good morning, good evening to you. Are there right now? 461 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 2: The UK has the Kistarmer come out and criticized the 462 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: US for the strikes at this point, what is their. 463 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 13: Position, No, Sir Kistarmer saying obviously warning of a risk 464 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 13: of escalation. However, really the government stance is that there 465 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 13: is no way Iran can have a nuclear weapon, and 466 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 13: so in that sense, you know, he is not criticized 467 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 13: in the Americans, but he's saying that he wants to 468 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 13: reassure the British public that they're doing everything that they 469 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 13: can to stabilize the situation. He has stress crucially here 470 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 13: that there is no involvement in the US action on 471 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 13: behalf of the UK. Now, why is that important? Because 472 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 13: the US Air Force have bases here in the UK. 473 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 13: It was thought that they might use these bases to 474 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 13: launch the attack. That would appear not to have been 475 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 13: the case, I say a peer because UK involvement and 476 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 13: allowing America to use the Air Force Bass are two 477 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 13: slightly different things, but anyway, the Prime Minister this afternoon. 478 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 13: In the last few hours has shared an emergency Cobra 479 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 13: response meeting and held calls with other world leaders, including 480 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 13: France's Emmanuel Macron and Germany's Frederic Mertz. They are all 481 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 13: urging for Iran not to take any action that could 482 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 13: destabilize the region. But a UK defense source said military 483 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 13: personnel in the Middle East were now on their highest 484 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 13: level of alert, and we're being told as well that 485 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 13: the Foreign and Commonwealth Offices advice against all traveler. Israel 486 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 13: has now organized a charter flight from Tel Aviv for 487 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 13: British nationals who want to leave Israel, and now British 488 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 13: Airways announcing its pausing flights to Dubai in the United 489 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 13: Arab Emirates and Dohat in Kata in light of the situation. 490 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 2: Kevin I was looking at the numbers, the latest poll 491 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: numbers from IPSOS at the weekend. Just fascinating what's happening 492 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 2: with reform. So they're on thirty four percent if the 493 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 2: vote was held in my thirty four percent, Labour twenty 494 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 2: five in the Conservative fifteen. 495 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, a real routing and such great news. For 496 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 13: reform and Nigel Farahs, she's smiling face in plenty of 497 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 13: newspapers at the weekend. This isn't just a creeping up 498 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 13: the polls. This is some avalanche that he's getting in 499 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 13: terms of the polls. But it's one thing to have 500 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 13: those polls. It's another thing of pulse for people to 501 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 13: vote that way. But I think it really is a 502 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 13: reflection of huge dissatisfaction about the levels of migration, yes, 503 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 13: but about the way in which the country's being run, 504 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 13: and he's cashing in big on those. But of course 505 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 13: the general election could be several years away and things 506 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 13: can change very very quickly. 507 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,719 Speaker 2: So much for your time this morning. Gavin Gray Are 508 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 2: UK Europe, corresponding twelve minutes away from six Ryan Mico 509 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 2: Rubio in the last couple of hours has talked about, well, 510 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: we had JD. Vance come out and say no, we 511 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: didn't want regime change in Iran. We just wanted to 512 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 2: hit the nuclear facilities, which is exactly what they did. 513 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 2: But look out, regime change could be coming if you 514 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: continue trying to get your hands on a nuclear weapon. 515 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 10: If Iran is committed to becoming a nuclear weapons power, 516 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 10: I do think it puts the regime at risk. I 517 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 10: really do. 518 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 12: I think it would be the end of the regime 519 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 12: of their tribe to do that. 520 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 2: Now. Our Defense Force is sending a C one thirty 521 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: j Hercules to the Middle East to assist any key 522 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: we stranded in Iran or Israel. Winston Peters at this 523 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: point not saying whether we supported America's strikes or not. 524 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: Due to Collins, the Minister of Defense is with me 525 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 2: life this morning. Minister, good morning, Oh, good morning, Ryan. 526 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 2: Do you have any update on those numbers. Apparently there 527 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: were lots coming out of the woodwork yesterday you were 528 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 2: saying any more overnight. 529 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 14: Not that I'm the wheel of but as we've said 530 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 14: many times now, people should not be in there if 531 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 14: you can possibly get out and get yourself out there 532 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 14: by any fayfish way possible. 533 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: Is it frustrating that people haven't been signing up from 534 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 2: day one and doing what you said? Yeah? 535 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 14: I guess that people work on the pray and hope 536 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 14: strategy often, which is like, I know, we've heard this 537 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 14: all before, Nothing's going to happen. In those people who 538 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 14: have been in the region for a while, they often 539 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 14: think like that. But it's a natural human condition to 540 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 14: hope for the best, and I think it's very important 541 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 14: everyone takes the opportunity while they can to get themselves 542 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 14: out to the borders. As they said, those airspaces have 543 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 14: not opened up their clothes, so we can't just fly in. 544 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 14: We've got to have people to come out to the 545 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 14: borders at Moon. 546 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean there are land borders open from 547 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: is in a, Jordan and Egypt, the ripen so you 548 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: can cross land and then potentially get a commercial flight anyway. 549 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 14: Yes, that's right, but we've also one of the reasons 550 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 14: for having the Hercules there with our people is that 551 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 14: should those should their airspace open up at all, then 552 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 14: we can possibly go into some areas. But the point 553 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 14: is I really get yourself to a land order if possible. 554 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 2: Yesterday I was watching you and Minister Peter's that Phenolapaie 555 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 2: said that you know, we're waiting on more information to 556 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: determine if the strike was justified or not from the 557 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 2: United States. Do we have any more information? Do you 558 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: have a view yet? 559 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 14: Well, I don't not overnight, and that would normally be 560 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 14: the Foreign Affairs or to deal with that. But no, 561 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 14: I don't have any more information. 562 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 2: Do you know whether it was legal or illegal. 563 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 14: No, I'm not trying to give you a legal advice 564 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 14: on something I don't have full information on. 565 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: Right, we still have Pie, we still have personnel minister 566 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 2: in Jordan Air for Operation Gallant Phoenix, because I know 567 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: you did an update on that a couple of weeks back. 568 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: This is under US Special Operations Command. Are they at 569 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 2: any risk of a retaliatory strike by Iran? 570 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 14: I would not have thought so, and the Defense Force 571 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 14: has made their assessment on risk. We do have, as 572 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 14: you write, you say quite a few people in the 573 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 14: Middle East, and our people in the Middle East, you know, 574 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 14: obviously for most in our minds, my view is don't 575 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 14: take unnecessary risk, particularly a small nation like ours. We 576 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 14: have to be very careful about what we do. But 577 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 14: I don't believe our people are under any particular threats according. 578 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: To Defense so none of them are being moved. 579 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 14: Well, I can't say exactly where everybody is, but I 580 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 14: can tell you that we still are continuing with some 581 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 14: of our operations in the Middle East, but there are 582 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 14: some people have already been moved out. Sorry to be vague, 583 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 14: but I have to be bad. 584 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: It's okay when you say people were moved out you 585 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: last week as a result of this. 586 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 14: In the last week or so. 587 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: And any change to the war games that are going 588 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 2: to be happening. I think it's July nine due to 589 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: start a Talisman Saber in off the Queensland coast. We've got, 590 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: you know, people being sent there. Any change to that at. 591 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 14: All, not that I'm aware of. I wouldn't have thought not. 592 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 14: It just depends what happens. I mean, I think everyone's 593 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 14: very aware in the sense that anything can happen at 594 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 14: any stage, so they've just got to be prepared. But 595 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 14: at this stage there's no change, okay. 596 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: And new funding for Ukraine, I see it announced overnight 597 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: by Prime Minister Luxe. And we had actually the ambassador 598 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: on our Herald show a week or so ago and 599 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: he was talking about maybe we could pick up some 600 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 2: of their drones. Are we looking at that at all? 601 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 14: Yes, we have actually quite a few drones ourselves in 602 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 14: terms of the manufacturing New Zealand, but it would be 603 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 14: it's a very nice offer that Ukraine has learned an 604 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 14: awful lot about warfare. We're using drones and they're also 605 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 14: they've made let's say they have learnt a lot more 606 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 14: than many other people have. So there's nothing wrong with 607 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 14: us actually talking to Ukraine about what those liasons are. 608 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 14: Impossibly some of those drones, but I think right at 609 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 14: the moment their drones are necessary in crime. 610 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 2: Appreciate your time this morning, Minister. That's Judith Colin, c 611 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 2: Defense Minister. It's seven to Sex News Talks THEB Mike 612 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: with us. 613 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: Next, Ryan Bridge on earlier this year with Expole insulation 614 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and try this Winter News Talks. 615 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 2: B Use TALKSB. It's five minutes away from Sex, So 616 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 2: there you go. Judith Collins on the show saying that 617 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 2: we have moved some of our defense force personnel in 618 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 2: the Middle East in the last week as a result 619 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 2: of what's going on in Iran. Mike will have more 620 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 2: coverage of this of course throughout the morning, and he's 621 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 2: with us. 622 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 15: Now, mikeel On, well Winston Peters as well. 623 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 7: This. 624 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 15: Do you get the sense where sort of we we 625 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 15: oversell this thing. I see this as a regional thing. 626 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 15: I don't see it going global. 627 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 2: No, well, I don't think anyone's saying it all go 628 00:32:58,560 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: global at this. 629 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 15: And we're sort of, really, are we going to move 630 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 15: some defense personnel. We've got an old Hercules that will 631 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 15: park somewhere close by. 632 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: It's a new Hercules. Well, you replaced the old one. 633 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 2: So this is the sea one thirty j. 634 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 15: When we've got the few people out, what are they 635 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 15: doing in Iran? I mean sure of working for the embassy, 636 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 15: which we as far as I know, got a couple 637 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 15: of people. What are they doing in i Ran? 638 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: Well, well, presumably they're got two passports. 639 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 15: And what are you doing in that part of the 640 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 15: world anyway? 641 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 2: You've got family there? 642 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 15: Well, you're still in Israel. 643 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 2: Well, we interviewed a couple the other day who work there, 644 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: you know, and the tech business got no interest in 645 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 2: coming back here. 646 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 15: Great, and so if that's your decision and that's your life, fantastic. 647 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 15: You're on your own well well, I mean it's it's 648 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 15: sort of like that, doesn't it make your own decision, 649 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 15: live your own life. 650 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 7: You know? 651 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 15: Why are we parking planes just in case somebody wants 652 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 15: to let Anyway? 653 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: When St. 654 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 15: Peter's went this morning Prime Minister in Europe as well, 655 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 15: so he'll be joining. 656 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 2: He'll be up late. He'll be up well late. 657 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 15: So let's be honest, it'll be eight thirty nine o'clock 658 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 15: and it'll be a pair of tief time and he'll 659 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 15: just you don't give us. 660 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: A call, make with your next Have a Great Day, 661 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 2: runs tomorrow. 662 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: Besten Myzony For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, 663 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: listen live to News Talks it Be from five am weekdays, 664 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio