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Speaker 1: So the Ports of Auckland Boss Roger Gray is onto something,

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Speaker 1: isn't he. We are a country that loves to say no.

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Speaker 1: He said in a speech to a crowd at the

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Speaker 1: Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron in Auckland that he went

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Speaker 1: to Miami to speak to four major cruise liners to

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Speaker 1: find out why the cruise ships aren't coming here as

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Speaker 1: much as they used to. And he says that apparently

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Speaker 1: they call us No Zealand because we just say no

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Speaker 1: to everything. Is he wrong? I mean, look at the

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Speaker 1: news that's been around just for the last couple of days,

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Speaker 1: right Santana wants to dig seven billion dollars worth of

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Speaker 1: gold out of the ground near Cromwell. The locals say no.

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Speaker 1: Eric Stanford wants to change the curriculum so our kids

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Speaker 1: can actually get a decent international education and have a

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Speaker 1: future ahead of them. The Union say no. Chris Bishop

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Speaker 1: wants to scrap regional councils because they just waste everyone's

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Speaker 1: time and money and say no no to things. And

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Speaker 1: the perpetually concerned looked at that and said, nah, we

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Speaker 1: say no so much that the government has created the

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Speaker 1: fast track approvals process to basically bulldoze through all the

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Speaker 1: no's they know are going to come. Some of it

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Speaker 1: is the rules that we've created for ourselves, right the

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Speaker 1: RMA is just one giant no factory. But some of

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Speaker 1: it I think is actually cultural. We have a great

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Speaker 1: life here in New Zealand. Even if you're rich or

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Speaker 1: port whatever, whatever your circumstances, you can enjoy your life

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Speaker 1: in New Zealand. Temperatures aren't too extreme. There aren't creatures

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Speaker 1: trying to kill you all the time like in Australia.

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Speaker 1: Foreign enemies aren't trying to kill us all the time

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Speaker 1: like places in Europe. We don't actually really have to

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Speaker 1: struggle too much to get by, so we can cruise,

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Speaker 1: and so we do cruise. So we just don't try,

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Speaker 1: so we just say no. We just don't want to

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Speaker 1: change that much. On the bright side, I think this

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Speaker 1: attitude is changing at the minute. I mean, I hate

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Speaker 1: to make things about politics all the time and look

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Speaker 1: to politicians for help. But I think it is because

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Speaker 1: we have some brave political leaders at the moment who

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Speaker 1: are prepared to ruffle some feathers. The Mayor of Auckland,

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Speaker 1: who is just getting on with changing the port and

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Speaker 1: making money for the city, the Roma Minister Chris Bishop,

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Speaker 1: who's scrapping the regional councils, which is a massive thing

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Speaker 1: to do. Everyone's crush Erica Stanford, who's completely overhauling education

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Speaker 1: despite the educator saying no to her. So when we

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Speaker 1: have to say yes and the going gets tough like

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Speaker 1: it is right now, I think that we can say yes.

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Speaker 1: My hope is, though, that we get stuck in the

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Speaker 1: yes setting, we stay here and break the habit of

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Speaker 1: the constant no setting. For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive,

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