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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident build Up podcast with Peter

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Speaker 1: Wolfcamp from news Talks at Bay.

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Speaker 2: When you're sitting at the table trying to start have

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Speaker 2: scissor home even when wilver Band gone, even when you're

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Speaker 2: there alone. The house is a home, even when those

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Speaker 2: ghost even when you got around from the ones you love,

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Speaker 2: your most.

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Speaker 3: Screamed or broken plaints.

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Speaker 4: Feeling from the world.

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Speaker 5: Locals vesper when they're going to lead in.

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Speaker 2: The neighbor The house is a home even when Wilba

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Speaker 3: Well, a very very good morning, and I barn welcome

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Speaker 3: to you this Sunday morning, the nineteenth of January. Peak

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Speaker 3: wolf Camp here the Resident Builder, and in a slightly

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Speaker 3: different location. So as it happens, I find myself sitting

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Speaker 3: in the Tollrong studios of MZME of News Talk SEB

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Speaker 3: looking out at an increasingly brightening sky. And it's one

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Speaker 3: of those flash hairy studios where the broadcast announcer is

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Speaker 3: ride out by effectively by the cycle path and by

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Speaker 3: the footpath, by the bus lane and by the now

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Speaker 3: newly renovated or not so newly renovated Cameron Road right

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Speaker 3: here in downtown Tolrong. So a very good morning to

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Speaker 3: nice to be able to sort of take a moment

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Speaker 3: to get out of Auckland head down here. We've come

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Speaker 3: I had to sort of excuse myself a little bit

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Speaker 3: earlier than most of the guests and come in here

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Speaker 3: bright and nearly this Sunday morning. So really looking forward

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Speaker 3: to it. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 3: number to call if you've got a question of a

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Speaker 3: building nature. You can talk about all things building with

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Speaker 3: us this morning. We're talking about compliance, we're talking about regulations,

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Speaker 3: we can talk about I got I think there's quite

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Speaker 3: a lot of correspondence after some comments around bureaucracy the

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Speaker 3: other day. Sure happy to talk about bureaucracy as well,

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Speaker 3: and the rules and regulations that govern what it is

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Speaker 3: can't do when it comes to building and renovation. But

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Speaker 3: there's also the practical tips and tricks as well. If

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Speaker 3: you've got a project that maybe you've started over the

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Speaker 3: couple of little projects and might not be going quite

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Speaker 3: and I can offer up, hopefully some useful advice that

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Speaker 3: and really importantly maintenance pros as well. I think there's

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Speaker 3: parts of the country anyway, forget a little bit about

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Speaker 3: the rain and the wind, and we think that summer

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Speaker 3: that flashing that if the wind drives from a particular

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Speaker 3: or maybe there's a weatherboard that rattles in the wind.

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Speaker 3: If we haven't had so much wind, we tend to

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Speaker 3: So anything that's on your mind in terms of building construction, maintenance, alterations, renovations, contracts.

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Speaker 3: Had a couple of emails during the week which I

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Speaker 3: So there you go, right, he and my thanks to

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Speaker 3: I can see where we're going. Eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: You can text as always which is nine two nine

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Speaker 3: It's Pete at newstalksb dot co dot nz. So we

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Speaker 3: Rudd has talked about Wingspan for a while. He's been

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Speaker 3: that as well. Beautiful day here in Taurong and a

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Speaker 3: fantastic day for an absolutely glorious wedding last night as well.

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Speaker 3: We're going to take short break. We'll take your calls

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Speaker 3: right now. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number.

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Speaker 3: Give us a call. Love to hear from you this morning.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk all things building and construction here at news

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Speaker 3: Talk zed B. Your news Talk's ed B Petere wolf

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Speaker 3: Camp with you this morning. Peate wolf Camp, there isn't

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Speaker 3: builder talking all things building and construction. Will take your

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Speaker 3: to all of your texts. A first one that's coming

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Speaker 3: from Jeannette, five year old house Russ spots showing through

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Speaker 3: the exterior paint. Is there any responsibility on a developer

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Speaker 3: So they were all fixed in place, all the heads

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Speaker 3: Sefit's being nailed on with jib clouts. Now, jib clouts

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Speaker 3: an internal environment, but it won't last in an exterior environment.

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Speaker 3: That's we use either a galvanized or a stainless steel

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Speaker 3: I think for you, Jeanette, it's definitely worth having conversation

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Speaker 3: prove that they're not the specified fastness, then that becomes

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Speaker 3: whether it's extensive or not someone's text through And I

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Speaker 3: can do it either way. If the skirting boards are

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Speaker 3: important thing with keeping your projects running well is getting

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Speaker 3: hello Christine. Oh hello Pete, Hey there, good morning. Thank

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Speaker 8: There was just ply on the top, so that wasn't

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Speaker 3: Black and those steps? Are they like where you've walked?

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Speaker 3: Is it literally from where you've stepped off the garden

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Speaker 9: They're just three steps leading up in it. They're just

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Speaker 3: So you can try that.

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Speaker 9: That has probably I think the lawn goes black if

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Speaker 6: No, I know, I know.

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Speaker 3: punch a lot more nails and now compared to when

431
00:23:56,175 --> 00:23:59,895
Speaker 3: I first started painting forty years ago. As it happens,

432
00:23:59,895 --> 00:24:02,615
Speaker 3: actually the wedding, so I'm in Tarronger at the moment.

433
00:24:03,415 --> 00:24:07,895
Speaker 3: We came down for a wedding of actually our godson,

434
00:24:08,015 --> 00:24:13,415
Speaker 3: which was fantastic, and he was marrying his bride and

435
00:24:13,575 --> 00:24:17,295
Speaker 3: the wedding was held at her father's place, which is

436
00:24:17,335 --> 00:24:20,655
Speaker 3: beautiful property here in tarrong So it was a backyard

437
00:24:20,695 --> 00:24:23,335
Speaker 3: wedding which is just fantastic on a glorious day. And

438
00:24:23,375 --> 00:24:25,735
Speaker 3: then I heard the rain at about three o'clock this morning,

439
00:24:25,775 --> 00:24:28,735
Speaker 3: so they were incredibly lucky to have missed out on

440
00:24:28,775 --> 00:24:31,255
Speaker 3: the rain as well. But Rob, who happens to be

441
00:24:31,295 --> 00:24:34,255
Speaker 3: a painter, actually thanks very much for hosting us at

442
00:24:34,335 --> 00:24:37,095
Speaker 3: your place last night. It was a tremendous event. Your

443
00:24:37,135 --> 00:24:39,375
Speaker 3: news talk said, be if you've got a question of

444
00:24:39,455 --> 00:24:42,415
Speaker 3: a building nature, we can take your calls. Right now

445
00:24:42,495 --> 00:24:45,255
Speaker 3: we've got the lines sorted, we can take your calls.

446
00:24:45,295 --> 00:24:46,775
Speaker 3: We'll get them to air. We'll have a bit of

447
00:24:46,775 --> 00:24:50,935
Speaker 3: a chat about all things building and construction. I do

448
00:24:51,015 --> 00:24:54,535
Speaker 3: quite like that text from the old painter. And now

449
00:24:54,655 --> 00:24:57,615
Speaker 3: Angela from North Canterbury. I've got a house that's on

450
00:24:57,855 --> 00:25:00,895
Speaker 3: poles and the birds have ripped and nested in the

451
00:25:00,935 --> 00:25:05,135
Speaker 3: foil insulation which now needs to be replaced. Can you

452
00:25:05,175 --> 00:25:08,135
Speaker 3: recommend what I should place it with in terms of

453
00:25:08,455 --> 00:25:14,415
Speaker 3: underfloor insulation. Look, there's a whole heap of different products.

454
00:25:14,455 --> 00:25:21,655
Speaker 3: I wonder whether so one of the challenges I guess

455
00:25:21,655 --> 00:25:25,375
Speaker 3: for particularly pole houses or houses that are even if

456
00:25:25,375 --> 00:25:28,575
Speaker 3: it's not really a polehouse as in many meters in

457
00:25:28,575 --> 00:25:31,455
Speaker 3: the air, but if it's an exposed location on a

458
00:25:31,495 --> 00:25:34,015
Speaker 3: sloping site and you do get a lot of wind

459
00:25:34,055 --> 00:25:38,335
Speaker 3: that naturally just pushes underneath the house. What the wind

460
00:25:38,375 --> 00:25:42,615
Speaker 3: does is as it goes through the insulation, as inevitably

461
00:25:42,655 --> 00:25:44,975
Speaker 3: a little bit of it will it will reduce the

462
00:25:44,975 --> 00:25:48,975
Speaker 3: effectiveness of the insulation. So insulation works by trapping air.

463
00:25:49,375 --> 00:25:54,135
Speaker 3: You want as little movement in your insulation material as possible. Now,

464
00:25:54,175 --> 00:25:57,215
Speaker 3: typically when we're doing insulation, for example, in a wall space,

465
00:25:57,575 --> 00:25:59,895
Speaker 3: we've got building paper on the outside, we might have

466
00:26:00,015 --> 00:26:03,255
Speaker 3: rigid air barrier on the outside. Then we've got plasterboard

467
00:26:03,295 --> 00:26:06,535
Speaker 3: on the inside. And typically there's not a lot of

468
00:26:06,535 --> 00:26:09,895
Speaker 3: air movement, not wind anyway, moving through there, and so

469
00:26:09,975 --> 00:26:13,855
Speaker 3: the insulation works well, but in an underfloor situation, particularly

470
00:26:13,895 --> 00:26:16,735
Speaker 3: if you were just to install it. So take out

471
00:26:17,135 --> 00:26:20,775
Speaker 3: the aluminum foil. Take out the foil insulation ANGELA. That's

472
00:26:20,815 --> 00:26:24,455
Speaker 3: the recommendation from all of the building scientists. So cut

473
00:26:24,495 --> 00:26:29,335
Speaker 3: that out completely and then install your insulation, and it

474
00:26:29,415 --> 00:26:31,895
Speaker 3: might be worth looking at. There's a couple out there

475
00:26:31,895 --> 00:26:36,255
Speaker 3: that have like a building paper or a building paper

476
00:26:36,295 --> 00:26:39,855
Speaker 3: attached to them, and that helps reduce the impact of

477
00:26:39,935 --> 00:26:44,215
Speaker 3: the air flowing through there. You can use autex green

478
00:26:44,255 --> 00:26:48,455
Speaker 3: stuff if you're not going to do a wrap over it.

479
00:26:49,175 --> 00:26:51,455
Speaker 3: There's mammoth out there. Look, there's a bunch of really

480
00:26:51,455 --> 00:26:55,975
Speaker 3: good insulations, but something that is going to tight fitting

481
00:26:56,015 --> 00:26:59,455
Speaker 3: insulation is really good. Something that's reasonably dense is good,

482
00:26:59,495 --> 00:27:01,655
Speaker 3: and something that's going to resist a little bit of

483
00:27:01,655 --> 00:27:04,895
Speaker 3: that wind movement so in terms of density, would be

484
00:27:04,975 --> 00:27:08,775
Speaker 3: really good as well. So there's a few to choose from,

485
00:27:08,815 --> 00:27:11,855
Speaker 3: but have a look online see what that whole thing

486
00:27:11,935 --> 00:27:15,815
Speaker 3: of the impact of air driving through your underfloor insulation has.

487
00:27:15,895 --> 00:27:19,575
Speaker 3: So we'll take your questions on that. If you've got

488
00:27:19,575 --> 00:27:22,375
Speaker 3: further questions, that'd be great as well. Oh, eight hundred

489
00:27:22,375 --> 00:27:24,335
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call a

490
00:27:24,375 --> 00:27:26,415
Speaker 3: couple of other texts that have come through as well. Pete,

491
00:27:26,455 --> 00:27:30,135
Speaker 3: you're right about the pine miter joints. The coefficient of

492
00:27:30,255 --> 00:27:34,735
Speaker 3: expansion tapers with the tapering of the timber. Very well

493
00:27:34,735 --> 00:27:38,175
Speaker 3: put Andy, thank you very much for that. I mean,

494
00:27:38,215 --> 00:27:41,495
Speaker 3: you can try it. You really can do it in

495
00:27:41,575 --> 00:27:44,135
Speaker 3: terms of a miter. And yes, they do look nice

496
00:27:44,255 --> 00:27:47,295
Speaker 3: because then you don't get the end grain exposed. But

497
00:27:47,415 --> 00:27:52,135
Speaker 3: in my experience they always open up, particularly with pine,

498
00:27:52,695 --> 00:27:54,935
Speaker 3: and then you sort of go, well, hang on, if

499
00:27:54,935 --> 00:27:59,615
Speaker 3: they've opened up, is that more distracting? Is that less

500
00:28:00,255 --> 00:28:05,335
Speaker 3: esthetically appealing than simply having a nice neat butt joint

501
00:28:05,535 --> 00:28:08,575
Speaker 3: where you end up with the grain being exposed on

502
00:28:08,575 --> 00:28:10,975
Speaker 3: one of those. You can always try to work it

503
00:28:11,015 --> 00:28:13,135
Speaker 3: out so it's not the first thing you see as

504
00:28:13,175 --> 00:28:15,815
Speaker 3: you approach the deck. You wouldn't have them, you know,

505
00:28:15,855 --> 00:28:18,415
Speaker 3: you wouldn't have the butt end facing let's say towards

506
00:28:18,495 --> 00:28:20,615
Speaker 3: the stairs so as you walk up the stairs you

507
00:28:20,655 --> 00:28:24,215
Speaker 3: see it, or if you're coming around the pathway, you

508
00:28:24,255 --> 00:28:27,815
Speaker 3: can orientate them in such a way that the edge

509
00:28:27,815 --> 00:28:31,135
Speaker 3: of the board is the visual element and the butt

510
00:28:31,215 --> 00:28:34,535
Speaker 3: end is facing somewhere that you're less likely to see it.

511
00:28:34,575 --> 00:28:37,415
Speaker 3: So that's how I would approach it after all these years.

512
00:28:38,975 --> 00:28:41,255
Speaker 3: Let me see what else we got here. A couple

513
00:28:41,295 --> 00:28:43,455
Speaker 3: of other text questions as well. We take your calls.

514
00:28:43,535 --> 00:28:46,095
Speaker 3: Really love to hear from you on the phone this morning.

515
00:28:46,255 --> 00:28:48,855
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

516
00:28:48,855 --> 00:28:55,495
Speaker 3: to call right. Potential implications of an unlicensed handyman doing

517
00:28:55,695 --> 00:29:02,695
Speaker 3: unconsented structural renovations on a house, Criky, Charles, that's a

518
00:29:02,735 --> 00:29:07,095
Speaker 3: really big question. What are the potential implications of an

519
00:29:07,215 --> 00:29:14,455
Speaker 3: unlicensed handyman doing unconsented structural renovations on a house? Okay, well,

520
00:29:14,935 --> 00:29:21,095
Speaker 3: unconsented work is obviously illegal in terms of the building code,

521
00:29:21,615 --> 00:29:25,015
Speaker 3: So any work that should require a building consent and

522
00:29:25,095 --> 00:29:31,055
Speaker 3: doesn't get one will be deemed to be unconsented, unsafe

523
00:29:31,175 --> 00:29:34,735
Speaker 3: and unsound simply because you didn't get a building consent.

524
00:29:35,255 --> 00:29:39,855
Speaker 3: If someone, I mean if a does a hormony get

525
00:29:39,935 --> 00:29:43,135
Speaker 3: prosecuted for doing this sort of thing typically not, but

526
00:29:46,095 --> 00:29:49,055
Speaker 3: in this instance, actually Charles who sent through that text,

527
00:29:49,615 --> 00:29:54,015
Speaker 3: is the owner of the house aware that a person

528
00:29:54,255 --> 00:30:01,375
Speaker 3: is doing unconsented work? Like is the owner completely unaware

529
00:30:01,615 --> 00:30:04,135
Speaker 3: of the Building Code and the Building Act and all

530
00:30:04,175 --> 00:30:08,095
Speaker 3: of the building regulations we have. And obviously the person

531
00:30:08,135 --> 00:30:11,695
Speaker 3: who is doing the work who's unlicensed, is probably not

532
00:30:11,855 --> 00:30:14,135
Speaker 3: really interested in telling the owner that they need to

533
00:30:14,135 --> 00:30:16,695
Speaker 3: get a building consent because they won't be able to

534
00:30:16,735 --> 00:30:20,135
Speaker 3: do that work because all building work, or all building

535
00:30:20,935 --> 00:30:25,175
Speaker 3: all restricted building work, which is what consented work is,

536
00:30:25,935 --> 00:30:29,015
Speaker 3: can only be done or supervised by a licensed building practitioner,

537
00:30:29,055 --> 00:30:32,255
Speaker 3: in which case this person, this handyman, is kind of

538
00:30:32,335 --> 00:30:36,175
Speaker 3: out of a job. So look, there's a bit to unpack.

539
00:30:37,415 --> 00:30:39,735
Speaker 3: And the other thing is, and I've spent quite a

540
00:30:39,775 --> 00:30:41,935
Speaker 3: bit of time on these sorts of things over the

541
00:30:42,015 --> 00:30:46,215
Speaker 3: last couple of months, is that unconsented work or work

542
00:30:46,255 --> 00:30:49,775
Speaker 3: that should have had a building consent but didn't get one,

543
00:30:49,975 --> 00:30:52,575
Speaker 3: or work that had a building consent but didn't get

544
00:30:52,575 --> 00:31:00,015
Speaker 3: a CCC. They are massively difficult to formalize and legalize,

545
00:31:00,095 --> 00:31:03,535
Speaker 3: let's say later on, so I would steer well clear

546
00:31:03,615 --> 00:31:06,295
Speaker 3: of it. And if it happens to be your place, Charles,

547
00:31:06,935 --> 00:31:09,095
Speaker 3: then certainly make sure you get a consent for any

548
00:31:09,135 --> 00:31:12,735
Speaker 3: work that requires it in terms of the Building Act.

549
00:31:13,055 --> 00:31:15,175
Speaker 3: The lines are open. The number to call eight hundred

550
00:31:15,215 --> 00:31:18,135
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty Dennis are very good morning to you.

551
00:31:18,975 --> 00:31:24,135
Speaker 5: Good morning, Good morning students. First by those, I've got

552
00:31:24,135 --> 00:31:29,295
Speaker 5: a manmade marble bench top and it's got a chapin it.

553
00:31:30,575 --> 00:31:32,895
Speaker 11: I've had different reports.

554
00:31:32,455 --> 00:31:36,935
Speaker 5: How effective it is to get effects. Do they come

555
00:31:36,935 --> 00:31:39,375
Speaker 5: out any good? If you gets good, interpect them or

556
00:31:39,455 --> 00:31:41,895
Speaker 5: you're better to put it straight for your insurance company.

557
00:31:42,335 --> 00:31:48,215
Speaker 3: And like claim the whole bench off again. Yeah, look,

558
00:31:48,335 --> 00:31:53,215
Speaker 3: I've I know that certainly, like for four makers and

559
00:31:53,255 --> 00:31:57,735
Speaker 3: for engineered stone and those sorts of things, there are

560
00:31:57,855 --> 00:32:00,895
Speaker 3: quite effective repairs. I mean, we're not talking about a chip,

561
00:32:00,975 --> 00:32:03,375
Speaker 3: you know that's that's sort of four or five centimeters

562
00:32:03,375 --> 00:32:06,055
Speaker 3: across and you've lost the whole corner. We're talking about

563
00:32:06,695 --> 00:32:09,655
Speaker 3: and you know damage from use and that sort of thing.

564
00:32:10,935 --> 00:32:15,015
Speaker 5: What happened is JK down on the edge yep and broken.

565
00:32:15,855 --> 00:32:19,135
Speaker 5: It's about the size of your thumb mail, yes, and

566
00:32:19,255 --> 00:32:23,735
Speaker 5: it would be about two minimeters.

567
00:32:22,375 --> 00:32:26,295
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, and it's deficit and it's marble as a

568
00:32:26,375 --> 00:32:27,215
Speaker 3: natural marble.

569
00:32:27,935 --> 00:32:29,575
Speaker 5: No it's not a mate.

570
00:32:29,975 --> 00:32:34,295
Speaker 3: Ah okay, look for the engineered stone. I think the

571
00:32:34,375 --> 00:32:39,935
Speaker 3: repairs are much more easily done because essentially the person

572
00:32:39,935 --> 00:32:44,455
Speaker 3: who's doing the repair is replicating the actual manufacturing process, right,

573
00:32:44,815 --> 00:32:46,895
Speaker 3: So they can use the powders, they can use the

574
00:32:46,975 --> 00:32:53,855
Speaker 3: adhesives and it will bond so ideally depending on and

575
00:32:53,895 --> 00:32:56,215
Speaker 3: if it's engineered stone, then you you know, I mean,

576
00:32:56,255 --> 00:32:58,695
Speaker 3: that's that's something that's been around for ten fifteen years,

577
00:32:58,695 --> 00:33:00,615
Speaker 3: but prior to that it was a little bit uncommon.

578
00:33:00,855 --> 00:33:03,855
Speaker 3: So if you can find out who the original manufacturer was,

579
00:33:03,935 --> 00:33:05,935
Speaker 3: or the installer or the supplier.

580
00:33:06,415 --> 00:33:09,175
Speaker 5: We've on the specification of the house.

581
00:33:09,295 --> 00:33:11,815
Speaker 3: Yeah, fantastic. I would go straight to them and they

582
00:33:11,855 --> 00:33:15,335
Speaker 3: will probably they might do it in house, or they

583
00:33:15,415 --> 00:33:18,575
Speaker 3: may have some contact. So the ones that I've had

584
00:33:18,655 --> 00:33:21,015
Speaker 3: where I've needed to have those sorts of repairs done,

585
00:33:21,335 --> 00:33:24,095
Speaker 3: it's either been this company called bench Doctors, who are

586
00:33:24,095 --> 00:33:28,655
Speaker 3: franchised throughout the country. If you want to start there,

587
00:33:28,735 --> 00:33:29,895
Speaker 3: that's a good place to start.

588
00:33:30,975 --> 00:33:34,375
Speaker 5: Thank you. There. My second cliche, our house is teen

589
00:33:34,455 --> 00:33:38,975
Speaker 5: years old. We're about to hear a prepainted yep and

590
00:33:39,455 --> 00:33:41,935
Speaker 5: a pot for a couple of painters and they say, yeah, yeah,

591
00:33:41,975 --> 00:33:44,815
Speaker 5: we'll do the job. Do you just trust them or

592
00:33:44,815 --> 00:33:47,655
Speaker 5: do you write specification or how do you go about it?

593
00:33:47,695 --> 00:33:52,175
Speaker 5: Because this house, the original painters I don't think paid

594
00:33:52,175 --> 00:33:54,135
Speaker 5: a very good job. Sure, and I want it to be

595
00:33:54,175 --> 00:33:57,175
Speaker 5: done properly. You know it needs painking us teen years

596
00:33:57,175 --> 00:34:03,215
Speaker 5: and make sure that's longer than that in my opinion, m.

597
00:34:04,695 --> 00:34:09,215
Speaker 3: I mean, my guess is that you're probably doing the

598
00:34:09,255 --> 00:34:11,895
Speaker 3: repaint because you're starting to see a little bit of

599
00:34:11,895 --> 00:34:14,535
Speaker 3: wear and tear. There'll be some movement, there might be

600
00:34:14,535 --> 00:34:17,615
Speaker 3: a bit of flaking material there, but it's not like

601
00:34:17,775 --> 00:34:21,175
Speaker 3: all of the paint all over the house is falling off.

602
00:34:21,135 --> 00:34:23,655
Speaker 5: Is it now?

603
00:34:24,055 --> 00:34:24,255
Speaker 6: And all?

604
00:34:24,335 --> 00:34:30,215
Speaker 3: Yeah, well ten years is not unreasonable in these days.

605
00:34:30,695 --> 00:34:34,255
Speaker 3: So in terms of how long it's lasted, Yeah, look,

606
00:34:34,295 --> 00:34:37,335
Speaker 3: I think you raise a really good point around a specification.

607
00:34:37,495 --> 00:34:40,815
Speaker 3: I would absolutely get the painter because, particularly if you're

608
00:34:40,815 --> 00:34:43,375
Speaker 3: going to get a couple of different prices, right, you

609
00:34:43,415 --> 00:34:47,215
Speaker 3: want to make it fair that both painters or three

610
00:34:47,255 --> 00:34:50,735
Speaker 3: painters are all quoting on the same type of work,

611
00:34:50,855 --> 00:34:54,455
Speaker 3: So you know it should include you know, we're going

612
00:34:54,495 --> 00:34:56,495
Speaker 3: to arrive on site, We're going to do a full

613
00:34:56,615 --> 00:35:00,135
Speaker 3: chem wash of the house. Thereafter, we're going to sand,

614
00:35:00,255 --> 00:35:02,575
Speaker 3: we're going to spot prime, We're going to use this

615
00:35:02,695 --> 00:35:05,935
Speaker 3: type of primer. These are the paints that we're going

616
00:35:05,935 --> 00:35:08,575
Speaker 3: to use. We're going to do. You know, some painters

617
00:35:08,695 --> 00:35:11,335
Speaker 3: might go, well, look it's an existing house. I'm going

618
00:35:11,375 --> 00:35:13,015
Speaker 3: to do a little bit of spot priming and then

619
00:35:13,015 --> 00:35:15,135
Speaker 3: I'll put one coat over the top. Now you might

620
00:35:15,215 --> 00:35:17,415
Speaker 3: want to do two coats over the top, which I

621
00:35:17,415 --> 00:35:21,575
Speaker 3: would probably recommend after ten years. You know, do you

622
00:35:21,575 --> 00:35:24,335
Speaker 3: want to talk to the painter if they're timber sills,

623
00:35:24,655 --> 00:35:28,215
Speaker 3: do you have a preference for oil based paints on

624
00:35:28,295 --> 00:35:32,895
Speaker 3: that or water borne paints? Does the painter know exactly

625
00:35:32,935 --> 00:35:35,855
Speaker 3: what type of painter's already on there so that there's

626
00:35:35,895 --> 00:35:39,135
Speaker 3: not going to be any compatibility issues. I would have

627
00:35:39,255 --> 00:35:40,775
Speaker 3: all of those things written down.

628
00:35:41,975 --> 00:35:45,655
Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds like most people just say, you go, hey,

629
00:35:46,695 --> 00:35:50,535
Speaker 5: we're talking for ten this scale all there.

630
00:35:50,575 --> 00:35:52,655
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, so that's a lot of money.

631
00:35:53,335 --> 00:35:56,695
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I think a scope of works right, So

632
00:35:57,655 --> 00:36:00,055
Speaker 3: from the painter going, I'm going to do these things.

633
00:36:00,135 --> 00:36:03,695
Speaker 3: You know, where I see nails that have lifted a

634
00:36:03,735 --> 00:36:05,575
Speaker 3: little bit, I'm going to punch those in. I'm going

635
00:36:05,615 --> 00:36:09,135
Speaker 3: to refill those holes that sort of thing. I mean,

636
00:36:09,175 --> 00:36:11,735
Speaker 3: I I went to a job a little while ago

637
00:36:12,095 --> 00:36:15,135
Speaker 3: where the painters, you know, to be fair in a

638
00:36:15,215 --> 00:36:18,295
Speaker 3: commercial sense. Sometimes I'm not saying this for all painters.

639
00:36:18,535 --> 00:36:21,935
Speaker 3: They'll just paint whatever's there, right. And there was a

640
00:36:22,095 --> 00:36:24,655
Speaker 3: nail that hadn't been driven in. It was sticking out

641
00:36:24,815 --> 00:36:28,655
Speaker 3: a good fifteen millimeters from like a pergolar or something

642
00:36:28,695 --> 00:36:31,775
Speaker 3: like that, that was painted. They just painted it, right.

643
00:36:32,095 --> 00:36:34,695
Speaker 3: They just there to paint. They're not there to ask questions,

644
00:36:34,735 --> 00:36:38,335
Speaker 3: do anything else than just get the paint on. You know,

645
00:36:38,415 --> 00:36:41,295
Speaker 3: you don't want that sort of situation. So you want

646
00:36:41,295 --> 00:36:43,975
Speaker 3: to be able to say, here's my specifications, here's my

647
00:36:44,015 --> 00:36:46,415
Speaker 3: scope of work. And particularly if you're getting two people

648
00:36:46,455 --> 00:36:48,935
Speaker 3: to price for it, then it makes it fair that

649
00:36:48,975 --> 00:36:53,015
Speaker 3: they're both they've both got a description. I wonder whether

650
00:36:53,175 --> 00:36:57,455
Speaker 3: you know one option is to I'm going to drop

651
00:36:57,535 --> 00:37:01,375
Speaker 3: rasine sales reps in. It is to invite like a

652
00:37:01,575 --> 00:37:04,575
Speaker 3: razine rep round and go actually give me a quick

653
00:37:04,655 --> 00:37:07,135
Speaker 3: rundown of what it is that a painter should be

654
00:37:07,215 --> 00:37:09,815
Speaker 3: doing there. The other thing, too, is that if you're

655
00:37:09,935 --> 00:37:13,175
Speaker 3: looking for contractors and you don't know someone through sort

656
00:37:13,175 --> 00:37:16,815
Speaker 3: of a personal recommendation, is to look at, for example,

657
00:37:16,895 --> 00:37:21,535
Speaker 3: Master Painters and get someone who's a member of Master Painters.

658
00:37:21,615 --> 00:37:30,135
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got the specification yep, and it is so

659
00:37:30,215 --> 00:37:31,975
Speaker 5: I want to I don't want anything.

660
00:37:33,615 --> 00:37:36,215
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that sounds reasonable, but I think you know,

661
00:37:36,335 --> 00:37:39,295
Speaker 3: and then for you, as the person who's paying the bill,

662
00:37:39,695 --> 00:37:42,335
Speaker 3: you can look at the work that they're doing and go, yep,

663
00:37:42,415 --> 00:37:44,415
Speaker 3: I can see that they're doing what they said they

664
00:37:44,415 --> 00:37:46,415
Speaker 3: were going to do, and that gives you a little

665
00:37:46,455 --> 00:37:47,615
Speaker 3: bit of surety as well.

666
00:37:48,855 --> 00:37:50,375
Speaker 5: Thank you, no trouble at all.

667
00:37:50,655 --> 00:37:52,255
Speaker 3: I hope it all goes well. And good luck with

668
00:37:52,295 --> 00:37:54,695
Speaker 3: the bench top as well. I know that that can

669
00:37:54,735 --> 00:37:58,775
Speaker 3: be a little bit heartbreaking when suddenly you've you've got

670
00:37:58,775 --> 00:38:00,935
Speaker 3: a damage to a bench top like that can be

671
00:38:00,975 --> 00:38:05,255
Speaker 3: a little bit of yeah, it's it's it is. There's

672
00:38:05,295 --> 00:38:07,615
Speaker 3: that that moment you see the jar coming down and

673
00:38:07,655 --> 00:38:13,695
Speaker 3: you're thinking, oh, this isn't going to go well, Yeah,

674
00:38:14,335 --> 00:38:14,655
Speaker 3: isn't it.

675
00:38:14,735 --> 00:38:15,015
Speaker 5: It is.

676
00:38:15,055 --> 00:38:17,855
Speaker 3: Indeed, nice to chat with you, Dennis. You take care

677
00:38:18,095 --> 00:38:21,655
Speaker 3: all of our best. Then we're going to talk. We've

678
00:38:21,695 --> 00:38:24,495
Speaker 3: got a couple more calls after New Sport and Weather,

679
00:38:24,575 --> 00:38:27,135
Speaker 3: but right now we're coming up to New Sport and Weather.

680
00:38:27,695 --> 00:38:30,375
Speaker 3: Got a couple of good texts coming in as well

681
00:38:31,535 --> 00:38:35,455
Speaker 3: with regard to decking. Obviously it's summertime, isn't it, so

682
00:38:35,495 --> 00:38:38,815
Speaker 3: we're all talking about decking right now. We'll take more

683
00:38:38,815 --> 00:38:42,615
Speaker 3: of your texts and calls on that. Remember, as always

684
00:38:42,695 --> 00:38:45,215
Speaker 3: on a Sunday morning, we're into the garden with RD

685
00:38:45,255 --> 00:38:50,295
Speaker 3: Klein passed. From eight thirty this morning, we'll be talking

686
00:38:50,295 --> 00:38:52,895
Speaker 3: to Rud. I'm here in Taronga. He's in christ Church,

687
00:38:52,935 --> 00:38:55,375
Speaker 3: but we all managed to connect in. Isaiah, who's doing

688
00:38:55,615 --> 00:38:58,415
Speaker 3: a great job figuring all of this stuff out, is

689
00:38:58,455 --> 00:39:01,535
Speaker 3: back in the Auckland studio as well. So lovely to

690
00:39:01,575 --> 00:39:03,695
Speaker 3: be down here. Actually, it was quite exciting for me

691
00:39:03,855 --> 00:39:07,775
Speaker 3: personally yesterday. Apart from the wedding, there was the classic

692
00:39:07,815 --> 00:39:12,215
Speaker 3: flyers the Taronga Air Show. Didn't have time to get along,

693
00:39:12,455 --> 00:39:14,415
Speaker 3: but it was lovely to hear. I think it was

694
00:39:14,495 --> 00:39:17,495
Speaker 3: the I think the Cossir was flying, the Spitfire was

695
00:39:17,495 --> 00:39:21,375
Speaker 3: flying and the Mustang was flying as well. So nice

696
00:39:21,615 --> 00:39:25,375
Speaker 3: sounds in the sky earlier in the day as well.

697
00:39:26,135 --> 00:39:29,695
Speaker 3: A nice start to a fantastic day here in Tarron. Right,

698
00:39:29,735 --> 00:39:32,575
Speaker 3: we'll take your calls after news, sport and weather call

699
00:39:32,655 --> 00:39:35,815
Speaker 3: us now we'll get everything sorted out eight hundred eighty

700
00:39:35,895 --> 00:39:38,215
Speaker 3: ten eighty. Of course we'll take your texts as well,

701
00:39:38,255 --> 00:39:42,375
Speaker 3: which is on nine two nine two was zbzb from

702
00:39:42,375 --> 00:39:44,455
Speaker 3: your mobile phone and if you'd like to send me

703
00:39:44,495 --> 00:39:46,855
Speaker 3: an email. I got my emails up and running. It's

704
00:39:46,895 --> 00:39:51,295
Speaker 3: Pete at newstalksb dot co dot nz So Pete at

705
00:39:51,455 --> 00:39:55,175
Speaker 3: newstalksb dot co dot ENZ. As I say, we have news,

706
00:39:55,295 --> 00:39:58,135
Speaker 3: sport and weather top of the hour. We're straight back

707
00:39:58,175 --> 00:40:02,815
Speaker 3: with more of your calls after the news. Any of

708
00:40:02,815 --> 00:40:05,295
Speaker 3: those calls come back, the ones that I couldn't get

709
00:40:05,335 --> 00:40:11,255
Speaker 3: to before the new your off camp resident builder with

710
00:40:11,295 --> 00:40:15,255
Speaker 3: you this morning to talk all things building in construction,

711
00:40:15,375 --> 00:40:17,895
Speaker 3: as we do every Sunday morning here at New Salk

712
00:40:17,935 --> 00:40:21,055
Speaker 3: seed B. So nice to have your company as it happens. Actually,

713
00:40:21,095 --> 00:40:22,615
Speaker 3: it's quite nice to be in a studio where the

714
00:40:22,615 --> 00:40:25,535
Speaker 3: sun shines in in the morning as the sun rises

715
00:40:25,615 --> 00:40:30,495
Speaker 3: in the east. I'm down in Tarronga, so the NZDM

716
00:40:30,695 --> 00:40:33,975
Speaker 3: or the New Stork's heed B studios are here on

717
00:40:34,015 --> 00:40:36,375
Speaker 3: the well main street, not quite the main street, but

718
00:40:36,455 --> 00:40:40,615
Speaker 3: pretty important street in Tarrong Cameron Road, and I'm looking

719
00:40:40,615 --> 00:40:43,935
Speaker 3: out the pigeons clean up the debris from last night

720
00:40:44,335 --> 00:40:47,895
Speaker 3: and people are starting to go to work and getting

721
00:40:47,935 --> 00:40:49,775
Speaker 3: out and about, and there's a bakery next door. I

722
00:40:49,855 --> 00:40:52,775
Speaker 3: noticed a trade just pulled up and hopped and grabbed

723
00:40:52,855 --> 00:40:56,215
Speaker 3: himself quick pie. I think on his way. Obviously, people

724
00:40:56,255 --> 00:40:59,055
Speaker 3: are working on Sundays down here in the Bay as well.

725
00:40:59,175 --> 00:41:02,175
Speaker 3: So that's where I am today before heading back to

726
00:41:02,175 --> 00:41:04,455
Speaker 3: Auckland a little bit later on the week, so looking

727
00:41:04,495 --> 00:41:08,295
Speaker 3: forward to it. There he is. I can't quite tell

728
00:41:08,295 --> 00:41:10,495
Speaker 3: what type of pie's got from the pie shop next door,

729
00:41:10,535 --> 00:41:13,055
Speaker 3: but he's on his way to work as well. Oh,

730
00:41:13,055 --> 00:41:14,975
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you've got a

731
00:41:15,055 --> 00:41:17,735
Speaker 3: job to do that you'd like to talk about, whether

732
00:41:17,735 --> 00:41:19,495
Speaker 3: it's a little bit of advice or to sort of

733
00:41:19,535 --> 00:41:23,215
Speaker 3: chew the fat on best ways, tips and tricks for

734
00:41:23,255 --> 00:41:26,215
Speaker 3: getting jobs done, or we can talk all things building

735
00:41:26,335 --> 00:41:31,255
Speaker 3: and construction. Here at Newstalk SEDB. We got talking a

736
00:41:31,255 --> 00:41:35,255
Speaker 3: little bit about painting just prior to the news as well.

737
00:41:35,575 --> 00:41:39,215
Speaker 3: I think it's really important actually to have for almost

738
00:41:39,295 --> 00:41:42,135
Speaker 3: all jobs a description, you know. I mean we know

739
00:41:42,495 --> 00:41:45,775
Speaker 3: now with changes to building regulation that if you have

740
00:41:45,935 --> 00:41:50,135
Speaker 3: building work done that's more than thirty thousand dollars, you

741
00:41:50,255 --> 00:41:53,655
Speaker 3: must have a written contract in place. I think that's sensible.

742
00:41:54,895 --> 00:41:58,455
Speaker 3: But even for smaller jobs, just an agreement, whether it's

743
00:41:58,535 --> 00:42:01,735
Speaker 3: an exchange of emails that go this is what I

744
00:42:01,815 --> 00:42:03,855
Speaker 3: intend to do. I think we were going to have

745
00:42:03,895 --> 00:42:06,295
Speaker 3: a caller who was talking about, for example, a conquer

746
00:42:06,335 --> 00:42:09,175
Speaker 3: great job. And again we tend to think, oh, well,

747
00:42:09,335 --> 00:42:11,735
Speaker 3: they're all the same, right, But it might be about

748
00:42:11,735 --> 00:42:13,775
Speaker 3: the type of mesh. It might be about how much,

749
00:42:14,215 --> 00:42:17,815
Speaker 3: if it, they put into compacting. It might be around

750
00:42:17,935 --> 00:42:20,135
Speaker 3: where they're going to put the saw cuts, those sorts

751
00:42:20,175 --> 00:42:23,535
Speaker 3: of things. The more that you can set out clearly

752
00:42:23,775 --> 00:42:28,295
Speaker 3: in a discussion, like I say, whether it's verbal or written,

753
00:42:28,935 --> 00:42:31,975
Speaker 3: you know, via an email exchange doesn't necessarily have to

754
00:42:32,015 --> 00:42:36,535
Speaker 3: be terribly formal, but there should be an agreement that goes,

755
00:42:36,935 --> 00:42:39,535
Speaker 3: this is the nature of the job. This is how

756
00:42:39,615 --> 00:42:41,575
Speaker 3: I'm going to go about it. I think it's really

757
00:42:41,615 --> 00:42:44,495
Speaker 3: really important. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

758
00:42:44,535 --> 00:42:46,415
Speaker 3: the number to call. A couple of great texts coming

759
00:42:46,455 --> 00:42:48,975
Speaker 3: through a number of great texts coming through This morning, Pete,

760
00:42:49,055 --> 00:42:52,815
Speaker 3: I need to attach some security cameras to the polystyrene

761
00:42:52,815 --> 00:42:56,855
Speaker 3: walls of my house. The cameras are reasonably heavy, as

762
00:42:56,895 --> 00:43:01,535
Speaker 3: they have onboard batteries. Do you recommend gluing a small

763
00:43:01,575 --> 00:43:05,375
Speaker 3: piece of ply to the foam cladding to screw into

764
00:43:05,495 --> 00:43:09,615
Speaker 3: any other congestions. Thanks Pete, I think you might be

765
00:43:09,655 --> 00:43:12,935
Speaker 3: onto something, Peter. I think that's actually quite a wise suggestion.

766
00:43:13,255 --> 00:43:16,975
Speaker 3: So essentially to have a mounting board that you would

767
00:43:17,015 --> 00:43:20,655
Speaker 3: then mount the camera on. But because the board is larger,

768
00:43:20,695 --> 00:43:23,655
Speaker 3: it has a larger footprint, and I would imagine that

769
00:43:24,375 --> 00:43:27,535
Speaker 3: even if you've got a smooth finish on the exterior

770
00:43:27,535 --> 00:43:31,975
Speaker 3: and you can't necessarily see where any of the chances

771
00:43:31,975 --> 00:43:35,295
Speaker 3: are if it's polystyrene cladding, it's onto a baton. The

772
00:43:35,295 --> 00:43:37,975
Speaker 3: thing with it might be is that the baton itself

773
00:43:38,175 --> 00:43:41,815
Speaker 3: may not be structural. So if for example, you've got

774
00:43:41,855 --> 00:43:44,735
Speaker 3: forty mili polystyr and peter on the outside of your house,

775
00:43:45,215 --> 00:43:48,855
Speaker 3: you may well have a PVC batton behind there, which

776
00:43:48,895 --> 00:43:51,615
Speaker 3: won't give you a lot of purchase. But that batten

777
00:43:51,775 --> 00:43:55,535
Speaker 3: should then be fixed over the timber framing beyond, so

778
00:43:55,695 --> 00:43:58,895
Speaker 3: suddenly you're at sixty millimeters before you hit any timber.

779
00:43:59,175 --> 00:44:02,615
Speaker 3: You'd want to be thirty millimeters into the timber, so

780
00:44:02,655 --> 00:44:05,695
Speaker 3: you're at ninety plus. You know, maybe a twenty milimeters

781
00:44:05,735 --> 00:44:08,255
Speaker 3: piece of play that you're going to fix to the outside,

782
00:44:08,295 --> 00:44:12,535
Speaker 3: like a panel maybe two hundred by two hundred thereabouts,

783
00:44:13,135 --> 00:44:15,295
Speaker 3: you would want to do that. The other concern, and

784
00:44:15,335 --> 00:44:18,055
Speaker 3: we've talked about this from the good people at Raisine

785
00:44:18,095 --> 00:44:23,175
Speaker 3: Construction Systems who do exterior finishes, is that you've got

786
00:44:23,175 --> 00:44:26,575
Speaker 3: to be really careful about fixing anything to your exterior

787
00:44:27,295 --> 00:44:30,935
Speaker 3: cladding lest it caused leaks in the future. So even

788
00:44:31,135 --> 00:44:34,095
Speaker 3: by putting a board on, you know, water might get

789
00:44:34,175 --> 00:44:39,535
Speaker 3: that comes sheeting down, the wall gets trapped between the

790
00:44:39,535 --> 00:44:42,895
Speaker 3: board that you've fastened and the exterior cladding, and then

791
00:44:42,935 --> 00:44:46,575
Speaker 3: it goes down, it finds the screw and tracks along

792
00:44:46,655 --> 00:44:50,455
Speaker 3: the screw over time, and suddenly you're introducing moisture through

793
00:44:50,495 --> 00:44:57,375
Speaker 3: the cladding and potentially even into the building element. Is

794
00:44:57,415 --> 00:45:00,015
Speaker 3: there an option for you, in terms of installing the

795
00:45:00,055 --> 00:45:03,535
Speaker 3: cameras to hang them, for example, from the safite rather

796
00:45:03,615 --> 00:45:10,095
Speaker 3: than fix them in. And I wonder whether actually putting

797
00:45:10,095 --> 00:45:13,775
Speaker 3: the board on might not actually be that great an

798
00:45:13,855 --> 00:45:17,135
Speaker 3: idea that if the bracket is oval in some way,

799
00:45:17,975 --> 00:45:20,655
Speaker 3: that as long as you can find secure fixing and

800
00:45:20,775 --> 00:45:24,375
Speaker 3: that you apply a bead of sealant around the top

801
00:45:24,495 --> 00:45:27,815
Speaker 3: edge of it, but not at the bottom edge. That's

802
00:45:27,855 --> 00:45:30,175
Speaker 3: really important because what we want to do is stopwater

803
00:45:31,215 --> 00:45:33,975
Speaker 3: any water that gets We want to deflect water away

804
00:45:34,295 --> 00:45:36,815
Speaker 3: from the fastening that you're putting onto the wall or

805
00:45:36,815 --> 00:45:39,535
Speaker 3: the fixing on the wall. But then if water gets in,

806
00:45:39,655 --> 00:45:42,215
Speaker 3: we want to allow it to come out. So you

807
00:45:42,335 --> 00:45:45,415
Speaker 3: seal the top, but you don't seal the bottom of

808
00:45:45,455 --> 00:45:48,135
Speaker 3: a fastening like that. I hope that makes sense to you, Peter,

809
00:45:48,655 --> 00:45:53,295
Speaker 3: Good luck to you. Certainly. I had resisted for a

810
00:45:53,375 --> 00:45:58,655
Speaker 3: long long time the idea of having some cameras, but

811
00:45:58,975 --> 00:46:04,255
Speaker 3: I relented middle of last year. I got Secure Homes,

812
00:46:04,295 --> 00:46:07,375
Speaker 3: which is a little company in Devonport around and install

813
00:46:07,575 --> 00:46:10,335
Speaker 3: some cameras at our place. And I have to say,

814
00:46:10,855 --> 00:46:13,935
Speaker 3: being away, it was particularly useful to know that as

815
00:46:13,975 --> 00:46:17,455
Speaker 3: it happened, like a camera a career package. I think

816
00:46:17,455 --> 00:46:21,055
Speaker 3: it was school stationary arrived and that we were able

817
00:46:21,135 --> 00:46:23,135
Speaker 3: to say to a mate, Hey, look, could you just

818
00:46:23,175 --> 00:46:25,415
Speaker 3: come and grab that off the porch. So that's the

819
00:46:25,455 --> 00:46:28,175
Speaker 3: beauty of the cameras, isn't it. Eight hundred eighty ten

820
00:46:28,255 --> 00:46:30,095
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call if you've got a

821
00:46:30,095 --> 00:46:34,055
Speaker 3: building question. The lines are working, the phone's are working great, now,

822
00:46:34,335 --> 00:46:37,135
Speaker 3: so you can call us on eight hundred eighty ten

823
00:46:37,295 --> 00:46:40,255
Speaker 3: eighty and if you'd like to continue to send text,

824
00:46:40,295 --> 00:46:42,535
Speaker 3: you're more than welcome to do that as well. It's

825
00:46:43,175 --> 00:46:46,935
Speaker 3: nine two nine two or ZEDBZB from your mobile phone.

826
00:46:46,975 --> 00:46:48,375
Speaker 3: And like I said, I've got my email up and

827
00:46:48,415 --> 00:46:51,055
Speaker 3: running this morning as well. It's Pete at Newstalks EDB

828
00:46:51,455 --> 00:46:57,895
Speaker 3: talking all things building in construction, whether it's around you know, legislation, durability, contracts,

829
00:46:57,895 --> 00:47:01,415
Speaker 3: those sorts of things, but also the practical stuff as well.

830
00:47:01,935 --> 00:47:04,975
Speaker 3: We've talked about miters, we've talked about painting, we've talked

831
00:47:04,975 --> 00:47:07,615
Speaker 3: a little bit about repairs as well. And my heart

832
00:47:07,655 --> 00:47:12,015
Speaker 3: goes out to you where one of our earlier callers, Christine,

833
00:47:12,575 --> 00:47:16,815
Speaker 3: had done some fertilizer in the garden and then had

834
00:47:16,815 --> 00:47:20,655
Speaker 3: a little bit obviously on her soles of her shoes.

835
00:47:21,295 --> 00:47:24,975
Speaker 3: Unbeknownst to her, walked across the newly laid deck and

836
00:47:25,335 --> 00:47:29,815
Speaker 3: the fertilizer has left an imprint, let's say, on that decking.

837
00:47:29,855 --> 00:47:31,495
Speaker 3: So what do you do about those sorts of things

838
00:47:31,535 --> 00:47:34,015
Speaker 3: and repairs to bench tops, because that's always a little

839
00:47:34,015 --> 00:47:38,135
Speaker 3: bit heartbreaking when your Christine benchtop gets its first little

840
00:47:38,175 --> 00:47:40,615
Speaker 3: badge of honor that it's being used for the intention

841
00:47:41,215 --> 00:47:43,535
Speaker 3: of the work that you have to do in a

842
00:47:43,535 --> 00:47:46,695
Speaker 3: bench top. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty. The lines are open.

843
00:47:46,695 --> 00:47:49,415
Speaker 3: The number to call is eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

844
00:47:49,815 --> 00:47:51,975
Speaker 3: More than welcome to take your calls. Right now. It

845
00:47:52,055 --> 00:47:55,575
Speaker 3: is fourteen minutes after seven at Newstalk, Sad B. So

846
00:47:56,215 --> 00:47:59,375
Speaker 3: let me see about seven seventeen here at Newstalk, said B.

847
00:47:59,735 --> 00:48:02,535
Speaker 3: If you've got a building question, hopefully we can we

848
00:48:02,575 --> 00:48:05,695
Speaker 3: can find the right answer together. Eight hundred eighty ten

849
00:48:05,815 --> 00:48:08,255
Speaker 3: eighty is that number to call. Jeff A very good

850
00:48:08,255 --> 00:48:12,175
Speaker 3: morning to you. Yeah, you know, mate, go you're pretty good,

851
00:48:12,175 --> 00:48:12,575
Speaker 3: thank you.

852
00:48:13,495 --> 00:48:16,495
Speaker 12: Right, I've got a like a patchwork quilt of concrete.

853
00:48:16,535 --> 00:48:19,015
Speaker 12: It's back in my house. Yes, you know, it's going

854
00:48:19,055 --> 00:48:21,175
Speaker 12: to had a piece of slab laid and then another

855
00:48:21,215 --> 00:48:27,815
Speaker 12: piece of slab, and it's it's probably fifty square meters, right,

856
00:48:29,015 --> 00:48:31,175
Speaker 12: and I just it's I want to make it sort

857
00:48:31,175 --> 00:48:33,215
Speaker 12: of flat, look like one big piece, so I can

858
00:48:33,255 --> 00:48:36,255
Speaker 12: put a sparkle on it, or put a cardboard on it,

859
00:48:36,375 --> 00:48:39,495
Speaker 12: something like that. So how how's best to make them

860
00:48:39,535 --> 00:48:40,495
Speaker 12: all look one piece?

861
00:48:42,575 --> 00:48:47,295
Speaker 3: How? Well, when you say patchwork, is that because they

862
00:48:47,295 --> 00:48:49,375
Speaker 3: were all laid at different times or.

863
00:48:50,455 --> 00:48:52,895
Speaker 12: So I think the house. The house is like thirty

864
00:48:52,975 --> 00:48:55,735
Speaker 12: years or maybe forty years old, and it's it may

865
00:48:55,735 --> 00:48:57,215
Speaker 12: have had a big piece in front of it, and

866
00:48:57,255 --> 00:48:59,415
Speaker 12: then I've fit on a bit more on, so I

867
00:48:59,575 --> 00:49:01,855
Speaker 12: probably would say it it'll all be one hundred miles deep,

868
00:49:01,935 --> 00:49:05,615
Speaker 12: maybe one hundred and twenty five dollars deep. Yep, But yeah,

869
00:49:05,655 --> 00:49:08,495
Speaker 12: it just looks but I'm sure, and glind it down

870
00:49:08,575 --> 00:49:10,775
Speaker 12: and put a screen over the top board and pull

871
00:49:10,815 --> 00:49:11,335
Speaker 12: it all up.

872
00:49:11,855 --> 00:49:17,455
Speaker 3: Yeah, in terms of like where those different pieces but together,

873
00:49:17,935 --> 00:49:20,735
Speaker 3: are they neatly aligned? You don't have that thing where

874
00:49:20,855 --> 00:49:23,375
Speaker 3: you know, one bit starts to rise or another part

875
00:49:23,535 --> 00:49:25,415
Speaker 3: drops and you've got a bit of a toast stubbing

876
00:49:27,055 --> 00:49:28,775
Speaker 3: edge there.

877
00:49:29,375 --> 00:49:31,615
Speaker 12: A couple of pieces have risen up and it's a

878
00:49:32,015 --> 00:49:35,695
Speaker 12: so some is more moving more than others, right of

879
00:49:35,695 --> 00:49:36,535
Speaker 12: an awkward one.

880
00:49:39,015 --> 00:49:41,335
Speaker 3: The reason I asked that is one option is to

881
00:49:41,535 --> 00:49:46,495
Speaker 3: stain the concrete right, so to do a color effect

882
00:49:46,535 --> 00:49:49,055
Speaker 3: over the whole lot. That will bring it all together.

883
00:49:49,295 --> 00:49:53,895
Speaker 3: But that really only works if where your existing pieces

884
00:49:53,935 --> 00:49:56,855
Speaker 3: but together they're nice and even. Otherwise you know it's

885
00:49:56,895 --> 00:49:59,415
Speaker 3: not going to fix that problem.

886
00:49:59,855 --> 00:50:02,215
Speaker 12: Nice and even, but there's the odd one which maybe

887
00:50:02,295 --> 00:50:04,175
Speaker 12: just when it was laid it might have been a

888
00:50:04,335 --> 00:50:06,615
Speaker 12: ten mills five miles higher than the other one.

889
00:50:07,495 --> 00:50:09,455
Speaker 3: I mean, you could live with that, couldn't you? Five mil?

890
00:50:10,215 --> 00:50:12,335
Speaker 3: You know, if you said to me it's twenty five mil,

891
00:50:12,695 --> 00:50:15,015
Speaker 3: I'd go, Okay, well that's going to be a real problem.

892
00:50:15,655 --> 00:50:15,735
Speaker 1: No.

893
00:50:15,815 --> 00:50:17,335
Speaker 12: But it's just they all look different because they're all

894
00:50:17,415 --> 00:50:19,775
Speaker 12: kind of maybe different greats and concrete. Maybe it wasn't

895
00:50:19,815 --> 00:50:22,375
Speaker 12: the most professional job, but you know, I just thought, well,

896
00:50:22,455 --> 00:50:25,455
Speaker 12: maybe you could go over with a concrete grind or

897
00:50:25,855 --> 00:50:28,335
Speaker 12: I don't know.

898
00:50:28,615 --> 00:50:32,095
Speaker 3: The only thing with doing a concrete grind is one

899
00:50:32,615 --> 00:50:34,815
Speaker 3: you kind of have to do the whole thing, because

900
00:50:34,855 --> 00:50:37,735
Speaker 3: otherwise those areas that are ground versus those areas that

901
00:50:37,775 --> 00:50:41,615
Speaker 3: are broom finished or exposed will look quite different. The

902
00:50:41,655 --> 00:50:43,935
Speaker 3: other thing you end up with a concrete grind is

903
00:50:44,095 --> 00:50:47,935
Speaker 3: it's going to be very very smooth, right, which makes

904
00:50:47,935 --> 00:50:54,455
Speaker 3: it quite separate as well, you know, and if it's sound,

905
00:50:55,495 --> 00:50:58,455
Speaker 3: you could pour a topping over the whole thing. I

906
00:50:58,495 --> 00:51:03,935
Speaker 3: don't know whether a screed or actually there's something that's

907
00:51:04,015 --> 00:51:07,655
Speaker 3: brand new that's out there at the moment. So Mike Olds,

908
00:51:07,655 --> 00:51:09,455
Speaker 3: who's been on the show a number of times from

909
00:51:09,575 --> 00:51:12,895
Speaker 3: Razine Construction. He rang me, actually rang me on a Saturday.

910
00:51:12,935 --> 00:51:15,015
Speaker 3: I'm in the garden pottering away, and he rings up

911
00:51:15,015 --> 00:51:17,535
Speaker 3: and he goes, look, we've got this new stuff, this

912
00:51:17,655 --> 00:51:21,895
Speaker 3: micro cement which you can apply over you know, a

913
00:51:21,935 --> 00:51:26,135
Speaker 3: solid substrate and you can do colors and it'll be

914
00:51:26,335 --> 00:51:28,735
Speaker 3: really durable and that sort of thing. And then I'm thinking,

915
00:51:28,775 --> 00:51:30,975
Speaker 3: and he's like, I've got this idea. We'll make a

916
00:51:30,975 --> 00:51:33,735
Speaker 3: little Barlin as it happens. Actually, I was in my

917
00:51:33,775 --> 00:51:36,415
Speaker 3: backyard looking at my old twenty year old concrete table

918
00:51:36,455 --> 00:51:38,535
Speaker 3: and I was like, what about if we put this

919
00:51:38,655 --> 00:51:41,695
Speaker 3: micro cement onto the concrete table. Would that freshen it up?

920
00:51:42,055 --> 00:51:44,175
Speaker 3: No problem at all. So we'll be doing that. We'll

921
00:51:44,175 --> 00:51:47,015
Speaker 3: make a little video of it. That might be an

922
00:51:47,015 --> 00:51:50,575
Speaker 3: option is to do a screed of something like that,

923
00:51:50,695 --> 00:51:53,815
Speaker 3: but it's all about getting it to bond really well

924
00:51:53,975 --> 00:51:56,735
Speaker 3: to your existing one because you don't that's what you want.

925
00:51:56,935 --> 00:52:00,135
Speaker 3: And I'm sure we've all seen the thing where you know,

926
00:52:00,495 --> 00:52:02,935
Speaker 3: someone will do a screed over the top or try

927
00:52:02,975 --> 00:52:05,735
Speaker 3: and do like a ten mil coat and it just

928
00:52:05,815 --> 00:52:09,975
Speaker 3: delamina right, Yeah, it looks looks ugly. Delaminates doesn't last

929
00:52:10,055 --> 00:52:13,895
Speaker 3: at all, whereas this micro cement is more of a

930
00:52:14,015 --> 00:52:18,735
Speaker 3: very thin coat that will again even out the entire area.

931
00:52:20,335 --> 00:52:23,455
Speaker 12: So that one that stuff advertised on the internet, and

932
00:52:23,455 --> 00:52:25,095
Speaker 12: that looks like it comes out of a great big,

933
00:52:25,135 --> 00:52:27,575
Speaker 12: forty liter pail. You pour it on and just you

934
00:52:27,695 --> 00:52:32,855
Speaker 12: just move it around with some kind of I don't

935
00:52:32,855 --> 00:52:35,495
Speaker 12: know something, but it does look level and it's kind

936
00:52:35,495 --> 00:52:37,055
Speaker 12: of like a self leveling sort of.

937
00:52:37,775 --> 00:52:40,295
Speaker 3: Well, there is in someone's text Thrue there is self

938
00:52:40,375 --> 00:52:44,375
Speaker 3: leveling compound, right, which we use inside. But again I

939
00:52:44,415 --> 00:52:47,815
Speaker 3: would tend to use that inside. I'm not sure about

940
00:52:47,815 --> 00:52:50,455
Speaker 3: the durability because obviously you're driving on it and walking

941
00:52:50,455 --> 00:52:53,095
Speaker 3: on it and you know those sorts of things. So

942
00:52:53,135 --> 00:52:55,975
Speaker 3: you want something that's really hard. I don't think self

943
00:52:56,055 --> 00:52:59,015
Speaker 3: leveling compound would be strong enough for that over time.

944
00:52:59,095 --> 00:53:01,335
Speaker 12: The big question is how to get it at self.

945
00:53:01,335 --> 00:53:06,495
Speaker 3: And here, yeah, that's right. So thoroughly, thoroughly, thoroughly clean

946
00:53:07,655 --> 00:53:10,455
Speaker 3: your existing driveway, so you'd need to do a chemical treatment,

947
00:53:10,535 --> 00:53:13,775
Speaker 3: probably a water blast as well, and then it's it's

948
00:53:13,815 --> 00:53:16,615
Speaker 3: about that bonding agent. So for example, if you're doing

949
00:53:16,695 --> 00:53:22,695
Speaker 3: like a concrete repair, there will be semontitious materials that

950
00:53:22,775 --> 00:53:26,015
Speaker 3: have a binder in them, essentially like a PVA that

951
00:53:26,135 --> 00:53:28,575
Speaker 3: will bond. So in some cases you may have to

952
00:53:28,615 --> 00:53:33,135
Speaker 3: apply a like an H sort of like an H

953
00:53:33,215 --> 00:53:36,175
Speaker 3: prime or a seller coat onto the concrete and then

954
00:53:36,455 --> 00:53:39,815
Speaker 3: the product that you're using has adhesive cent it as well,

955
00:53:39,855 --> 00:53:43,735
Speaker 3: so it all bonds together. I guess the other option,

956
00:53:43,935 --> 00:53:46,175
Speaker 3: if you could, but you run into trouble at things

957
00:53:46,215 --> 00:53:50,095
Speaker 3: like thresholds and doorways, is do you go, Actually, I'm

958
00:53:50,135 --> 00:53:52,015
Speaker 3: just going to box up one hundred mili over the

959
00:53:52,015 --> 00:53:54,295
Speaker 3: whole thing and pour a whole new slab over the top.

960
00:53:55,255 --> 00:53:59,975
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's that's not readied option. Yeah, I mean it's

961
00:54:00,015 --> 00:54:02,535
Speaker 12: it's a lot of work for it, it is. Yeah,

962
00:54:03,455 --> 00:54:05,415
Speaker 12: but what was the name of that product that you said?

963
00:54:05,455 --> 00:54:09,975
Speaker 3: The so the other So there's a couple of options.

964
00:54:09,975 --> 00:54:12,015
Speaker 3: One option would be to look at doing like a

965
00:54:12,055 --> 00:54:14,535
Speaker 3: stain over the whole thing and that will blend it

966
00:54:14,575 --> 00:54:17,935
Speaker 3: all together. And I'd say I would start with a

967
00:54:18,055 --> 00:54:23,175
Speaker 3: website called get new look dot com, so Jason runs

968
00:54:23,215 --> 00:54:25,935
Speaker 3: that Get new Look, or I'll have a bit of

969
00:54:25,935 --> 00:54:29,735
Speaker 3: a chat to Mike about this micro cement product that

970
00:54:29,735 --> 00:54:34,935
Speaker 3: they're bringing out, and that could be an option as well,

971
00:54:35,215 --> 00:54:37,495
Speaker 3: because you know, As soon as you mentioned it to me,

972
00:54:37,575 --> 00:54:39,215
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I can see a use for it

973
00:54:39,255 --> 00:54:42,455
Speaker 3: on the concrete table. I made a big concrete table

974
00:54:42,495 --> 00:54:47,735
Speaker 3: outside twenty years ago. And my excuse me, my garage

975
00:54:47,735 --> 00:54:50,775
Speaker 3: floor is repitted as well, and he reckons it might

976
00:54:50,935 --> 00:54:53,095
Speaker 3: work on that. I'll tell you what. Someone's just text

977
00:54:53,135 --> 00:54:55,495
Speaker 3: through and go. You could do hot macs over the top.

978
00:54:57,295 --> 00:55:02,615
Speaker 12: Yeah, pretty expensive, to be fair. Now that's stopping your

979
00:55:03,015 --> 00:55:05,855
Speaker 12: not your gig. Just as you say, just from something

980
00:55:05,895 --> 00:55:08,655
Speaker 12: that maybe could pour on like almost like you do

981
00:55:08,775 --> 00:55:11,615
Speaker 12: with a wooden table, you put a yes, just put

982
00:55:11,615 --> 00:55:13,575
Speaker 12: a clear prime on it, sealed.

983
00:55:14,455 --> 00:55:17,175
Speaker 3: I don't know whether it's terribly common here, but certainly

984
00:55:17,215 --> 00:55:20,695
Speaker 3: overseas there are like POxy renders that you can pour

985
00:55:21,135 --> 00:55:24,455
Speaker 3: over the top of concrete. Again, whether it'll be durable

986
00:55:24,535 --> 00:55:27,735
Speaker 3: enough for cars and vehicle traffic, that sort of thing.

987
00:55:29,295 --> 00:55:30,935
Speaker 3: I was watching a show the other day where they

988
00:55:30,975 --> 00:55:33,335
Speaker 3: did it around a pool, for example, So they had

989
00:55:33,415 --> 00:55:35,655
Speaker 3: concrete down, then they pour in a POxy which is

990
00:55:35,895 --> 00:55:38,575
Speaker 3: waterproof coating as well, over the top of that. But

991
00:55:38,615 --> 00:55:41,295
Speaker 3: whether or not that's suitable for vehicles, I'm not sure.

992
00:55:42,175 --> 00:55:45,855
Speaker 3: I'll make sure that I have a chat with Mike. Yeah,

993
00:55:45,935 --> 00:55:47,455
Speaker 3: I'll make sure I have a chat with Mike this

994
00:55:47,615 --> 00:55:51,015
Speaker 3: week from Razine and we'll see if that might be

995
00:55:51,055 --> 00:55:54,095
Speaker 3: a good solution for you as well. Nice one, all

996
00:55:54,135 --> 00:55:56,935
Speaker 3: the best you Jeff, You take care, see mate, Bob

997
00:55:57,255 --> 00:56:00,215
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call.

998
00:56:01,575 --> 00:56:04,375
Speaker 3: A couple of texts have come and just through to grinding.

999
00:56:05,135 --> 00:56:07,735
Speaker 3: So Palmerston North Council grind all the footpaths to get

1000
00:56:07,815 --> 00:56:11,655
Speaker 3: rid of those high joints. Thankfully, most councils, it seems,

1001
00:56:11,775 --> 00:56:13,735
Speaker 3: have teams that go out and do that sort of thing.

1002
00:56:13,735 --> 00:56:16,415
Speaker 3: I noticed them in my area, not recently, but a

1003
00:56:16,455 --> 00:56:18,895
Speaker 3: couple of years ago, just where you know, sections of

1004
00:56:18,895 --> 00:56:22,455
Speaker 3: the footpath maybe because of subsidence, maybe because of a tree,

1005
00:56:22,855 --> 00:56:25,815
Speaker 3: those sorts of things they're unevil and uneven and they

1006
00:56:25,895 --> 00:56:29,255
Speaker 3: become a trip hazard. And so they'll come along with

1007
00:56:29,295 --> 00:56:32,775
Speaker 3: a decent sized grinder, often on a set of wheels

1008
00:56:32,775 --> 00:56:35,655
Speaker 3: and that sort of thing, and then go just grind

1009
00:56:35,695 --> 00:56:39,615
Speaker 3: their way across the top. Right. Oh, here we go on.

1010
00:56:39,855 --> 00:56:44,215
Speaker 3: This is interesting. You can get an exterior self leveling

1011
00:56:44,295 --> 00:56:48,535
Speaker 3: compound called tough floor. It drives to one hundred MPa

1012
00:56:49,655 --> 00:56:53,655
Speaker 3: bearing in most concretes about twenty MPa. It's self leveling,

1013
00:56:53,695 --> 00:56:55,495
Speaker 3: but you do need to be careful it doesn't all

1014
00:56:55,575 --> 00:56:59,295
Speaker 3: run to the lowest area or downhill if the existing

1015
00:56:59,695 --> 00:57:02,175
Speaker 3: slab is on a slope, and most of them probably

1016
00:57:02,215 --> 00:57:06,615
Speaker 3: will be, so I mean you could keep troweling it

1017
00:57:06,655 --> 00:57:10,135
Speaker 3: as it dries in the hope that it'll stay on

1018
00:57:10,175 --> 00:57:13,535
Speaker 3: the slope. But yeah, the whole point of south leveling

1019
00:57:13,535 --> 00:57:17,895
Speaker 3: compound is at levels, so really hard to put it

1020
00:57:17,975 --> 00:57:20,895
Speaker 3: on a on a slope. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1021
00:57:20,895 --> 00:57:23,895
Speaker 3: If you've got a question of a building, Nature will

1022
00:57:23,935 --> 00:57:29,655
Speaker 3: take your calls as well. Um, oh, this is a

1023
00:57:29,655 --> 00:57:32,015
Speaker 3: good one. I'll come back to this text in just

1024
00:57:32,055 --> 00:57:35,215
Speaker 3: a moment. But a quick one from Jane. Hey, Pete,

1025
00:57:35,255 --> 00:57:38,175
Speaker 3: I'm planning to repaint the eaves of a lockwood building.

1026
00:57:38,295 --> 00:57:41,495
Speaker 3: It has the original polyurethane clear coating on it. I

1027
00:57:41,575 --> 00:57:44,255
Speaker 3: want to change that to white as into a paint color.

1028
00:57:44,655 --> 00:57:46,855
Speaker 3: What preparation would I need to make this change? Does

1029
00:57:46,895 --> 00:57:50,055
Speaker 3: it need a special paint product to make the new

1030
00:57:50,135 --> 00:57:54,095
Speaker 3: paint stick? That's from Jane. You're onto it, Jane, Yes,

1031
00:57:54,215 --> 00:57:57,335
Speaker 3: it does need a special paint to make that stick.

1032
00:57:57,415 --> 00:58:02,855
Speaker 3: So thorough clean you would need to deglaze the existing polyurethane,

1033
00:58:02,855 --> 00:58:05,535
Speaker 3: which is essentially give it a sand so that you

1034
00:58:05,655 --> 00:58:08,015
Speaker 3: knock the glow. You don't have to send all of

1035
00:58:08,055 --> 00:58:11,815
Speaker 3: the polyurethane off. Obviously, any loose or flaking pieces you

1036
00:58:11,855 --> 00:58:15,335
Speaker 3: want to remove those. And then it's typically smooth surface

1037
00:58:15,375 --> 00:58:19,575
Speaker 3: Seala is what you use, and that will bond to

1038
00:58:19,855 --> 00:58:24,335
Speaker 3: that polyurethane, to that old coating, and then your new coatings,

1039
00:58:24,375 --> 00:58:27,855
Speaker 3: your new top coats will then adhere to that. Check

1040
00:58:28,015 --> 00:58:30,775
Speaker 3: with especially if you go to Razine, check with them

1041
00:58:30,855 --> 00:58:33,255
Speaker 3: that that's exactly the right product. But I'm pretty sure

1042
00:58:33,295 --> 00:58:35,855
Speaker 3: it's smooth surface Seala and then you can go on

1043
00:58:36,055 --> 00:58:38,415
Speaker 3: and do your top coat from there. I'm going to

1044
00:58:38,455 --> 00:58:41,855
Speaker 3: take short break. We have time for your calls. Love

1045
00:58:41,895 --> 00:58:43,735
Speaker 3: to hear from you this morning. We've got the line

1046
00:58:43,775 --> 00:58:45,575
Speaker 3: sorted out, so now it's a great time to call.

1047
00:58:46,055 --> 00:58:49,895
Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty. It is seven twenty eight

1048
00:58:49,935 --> 00:58:52,375
Speaker 3: here at Newstalk ZB your news stalks ed B. Eight

1049
00:58:52,415 --> 00:58:58,935
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. I'm

1050
00:58:58,975 --> 00:59:02,495
Speaker 3: getting we started talking about concrete grinding right. Just in

1051
00:59:02,575 --> 00:59:06,655
Speaker 3: terms of Jeff's call, he's got a fifty roughly a

1052
00:59:06,655 --> 00:59:09,775
Speaker 3: fifty square meter area, but it seems like the concrete's

1053
00:59:09,815 --> 00:59:12,055
Speaker 3: been laid at different times, so it looks a little

1054
00:59:12,095 --> 00:59:14,495
Speaker 3: bit patchy. You know what's a way of sort of

1055
00:59:14,615 --> 00:59:19,375
Speaker 3: making that look more uniform, more even. And then one

1056
00:59:19,415 --> 00:59:22,335
Speaker 3: of the things that happens is sometimes when you pour

1057
00:59:22,375 --> 00:59:25,655
Speaker 3: two bits of concrete and there's not reinforcing that binds

1058
00:59:25,695 --> 00:59:29,735
Speaker 3: the two together, is you'll get movement, right, so one

1059
00:59:29,855 --> 00:59:32,375
Speaker 3: corner will lift or a corner will sink, and then

1060
00:59:32,415 --> 00:59:34,775
Speaker 3: you've got a little trip hazard there, something to stub

1061
00:59:34,815 --> 00:59:38,495
Speaker 3: your toe on when you're wandering around summer in your jandles.

1062
00:59:39,215 --> 00:59:42,175
Speaker 3: And then we mentioned grinding. That couple of texts have

1063
00:59:42,215 --> 00:59:46,055
Speaker 3: come through about like Parmeston North Council for example, comes through,

1064
00:59:46,135 --> 00:59:51,055
Speaker 3: they grind those areas off, and then someone Catherine's text

1065
00:59:51,055 --> 00:59:54,455
Speaker 3: through and Allesley that's Auckland. They just put a great

1066
00:59:54,495 --> 00:59:58,295
Speaker 3: big patch of ashfelt there on which it makes it

1067
00:59:58,335 --> 01:00:01,055
Speaker 3: even more uneven. How do we stop the council from

1068
01:00:01,055 --> 01:00:03,975
Speaker 3: doing this, Ge Catherine, I'm not sure what you can

1069
01:00:04,015 --> 01:00:07,895
Speaker 3: really do about that, to be fair, If that's the

1070
01:00:07,935 --> 01:00:12,375
Speaker 3: way that they've decided that they will be able to

1071
01:00:12,895 --> 01:00:18,735
Speaker 3: do an efficient and cost effective repair then that's what

1072
01:00:18,775 --> 01:00:21,175
Speaker 3: they're going to do, isn't it. I know, I've got

1073
01:00:21,175 --> 01:00:23,655
Speaker 3: a clear picture in my mind of exactly what that

1074
01:00:23,735 --> 01:00:26,095
Speaker 3: looks like. And yeah, you're right, it ain't the prettiest.

1075
01:00:26,975 --> 01:00:29,615
Speaker 3: But then again, grinding the edges is that going to

1076
01:00:29,615 --> 01:00:31,895
Speaker 3: help as well? It does help, but maybe doesn't look

1077
01:00:31,935 --> 01:00:35,255
Speaker 3: that pretty either. Talk to your local council, talk to

1078
01:00:35,295 --> 01:00:39,175
Speaker 3: your local board people. They'll probably be particularly attentive from

1079
01:00:39,215 --> 01:00:42,655
Speaker 3: about now on in through to local body elections in

1080
01:00:42,735 --> 01:00:46,535
Speaker 3: what's September October of this year. So if they haven't

1081
01:00:46,535 --> 01:00:49,255
Speaker 3: paid much attention in the past, your local board or

1082
01:00:49,295 --> 01:00:52,735
Speaker 3: your local councilor I suspect they'll be much more responsive

1083
01:00:52,775 --> 01:00:56,375
Speaker 3: to acting on their constituents behalf now that they're looking

1084
01:00:56,415 --> 01:00:58,055
Speaker 3: for votes towards the end of the year.

1085
01:00:59,455 --> 01:00:59,615
Speaker 5: Right.

1086
01:00:59,695 --> 01:01:02,855
Speaker 3: Couple of someone else's text through I mentioned this micro cement.

1087
01:01:03,175 --> 01:01:05,615
Speaker 3: To be fair, I don't know a lot about it

1088
01:01:05,695 --> 01:01:09,695
Speaker 3: at this stage. It's a pretty new product that Razine

1089
01:01:09,695 --> 01:01:13,295
Speaker 3: Construction Systems are bringing out, and Mike Olds, who's been

1090
01:01:13,295 --> 01:01:15,295
Speaker 3: on the show with us a couple of times, rang

1091
01:01:15,375 --> 01:01:17,735
Speaker 3: me quite excited about it the other day, and we've

1092
01:01:17,855 --> 01:01:20,055
Speaker 3: figured out a couple of projects that we can have

1093
01:01:20,095 --> 01:01:23,335
Speaker 3: a go at it. So when I get a chance

1094
01:01:23,375 --> 01:01:25,455
Speaker 3: to use it, I'll let you know all about it.

1095
01:01:26,535 --> 01:01:29,055
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to

1096
01:01:29,055 --> 01:01:32,255
Speaker 3: call someone else is excited about the micro cement as well?

1097
01:01:32,295 --> 01:01:35,175
Speaker 3: Could it be used over kitchen terra cotta tiles to

1098
01:01:35,335 --> 01:01:40,655
Speaker 3: change the look? The issue there potentially is that you'll

1099
01:01:40,655 --> 01:01:43,735
Speaker 3: have a deeper amount obviously where the grout line are,

1100
01:01:44,295 --> 01:01:47,295
Speaker 3: and then a smaller amount over the top of the

1101
01:01:47,375 --> 01:01:51,615
Speaker 3: terracotta tiles. But also terracotta tiles are never exactly smooth,

1102
01:01:52,095 --> 01:01:54,255
Speaker 3: so they tend to cup a little bit or their

1103
01:01:54,295 --> 01:01:58,135
Speaker 3: concave or convex, and so you'll get different thicknesses. So

1104
01:01:58,215 --> 01:02:01,535
Speaker 3: again whether or not that would show up later on,

1105
01:02:01,575 --> 01:02:03,575
Speaker 3: we'd have to do a bit of testing. But yes,

1106
01:02:03,615 --> 01:02:09,975
Speaker 3: you theoretically should it here. And also you can choose

1107
01:02:09,975 --> 01:02:12,375
Speaker 3: colors for it, so you can make it up in

1108
01:02:12,415 --> 01:02:15,175
Speaker 3: whatever color you like, which is pretty pretty cool. And

1109
01:02:15,215 --> 01:02:17,575
Speaker 3: a word of caution from this texture, which is great

1110
01:02:18,255 --> 01:02:21,135
Speaker 3: painting lockwood houses, you'll regret it in a couple of

1111
01:02:21,215 --> 01:02:24,335
Speaker 3: years later due to the movement of the timber. So

1112
01:02:24,615 --> 01:02:28,695
Speaker 3: effectively you've got tongue and groove, and you could paint

1113
01:02:28,735 --> 01:02:30,495
Speaker 3: it and you'd go through and you'd fill all the

1114
01:02:30,535 --> 01:02:35,215
Speaker 3: gaps where the TGNV is is what I think this

1115
01:02:35,335 --> 01:02:39,415
Speaker 3: texture is saying. And so you could go from the

1116
01:02:40,015 --> 01:02:43,455
Speaker 3: natural timber with the polyurethane, which if there's some movement

1117
01:02:43,695 --> 01:02:50,295
Speaker 3: it's not really noticeable, to a consistent white color for example,

1118
01:02:50,495 --> 01:02:53,615
Speaker 3: where when you do get movement, you'll get a crack

1119
01:02:54,015 --> 01:02:56,335
Speaker 3: and you'll get a black line there, and then that

1120
01:02:56,415 --> 01:02:58,575
Speaker 3: will become obvious. Is what the texture is saying. So

1121
01:02:58,855 --> 01:03:01,855
Speaker 3: appreciate your opinion. It's a good idea. It's a good

1122
01:03:01,975 --> 01:03:04,615
Speaker 3: heads up as to whether or not that would work

1123
01:03:04,695 --> 01:03:07,575
Speaker 3: and whether it's going to look really good long term.

1124
01:03:08,015 --> 01:03:10,255
Speaker 3: The lines are open for you. Oh eight hundred eighty

1125
01:03:10,375 --> 01:03:12,615
Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number to call. Member. We've got

1126
01:03:12,655 --> 01:03:16,055
Speaker 3: red kline pass coming in at eight thirty this morning.

1127
01:03:16,575 --> 01:03:20,295
Speaker 3: We're talking all things gardening with rud A slightly longer

1128
01:03:20,375 --> 01:03:26,575
Speaker 3: and quite intriguing texts that's just come in. I wanted

1129
01:03:26,575 --> 01:03:28,815
Speaker 3: to do this, is what the texture is saying. I

1130
01:03:28,855 --> 01:03:31,175
Speaker 3: wanted to do some drainage and had a company come

1131
01:03:31,215 --> 01:03:35,335
Speaker 3: around with a camera to find my stormwater. What we

1132
01:03:35,495 --> 01:03:39,055
Speaker 3: found is a new build about seven years ago. So

1133
01:03:39,175 --> 01:03:42,095
Speaker 3: this isn't their property. I assume it's another one has

1134
01:03:42,215 --> 01:03:45,815
Speaker 3: cut through my stormwater connection and then they've gone and

1135
01:03:45,815 --> 01:03:48,455
Speaker 3: built a retaining wall. I spoke with them and then

1136
01:03:48,535 --> 01:03:51,335
Speaker 3: asked counsel to help sort it out. Apparently I have

1137
01:03:51,415 --> 01:03:55,615
Speaker 3: an easement in their property to allow my stormwater. Council

1138
01:03:55,735 --> 01:03:59,895
Speaker 3: found that, but we've now washed but they've now washed

1139
01:03:59,895 --> 01:04:01,695
Speaker 3: their hands of it, told me to get a lawyer

1140
01:04:01,775 --> 01:04:03,935
Speaker 3: to sort it out. I was a bit annoyed as

1141
01:04:03,975 --> 01:04:07,135
Speaker 3: they signed off the property and now it's my problem.

1142
01:04:07,175 --> 01:04:09,735
Speaker 3: I feel like I have to pay for their negligent

1143
01:04:10,375 --> 01:04:13,135
Speaker 3: so they call it a civil matter, whatever that means.

1144
01:04:14,455 --> 01:04:16,655
Speaker 3: I'm in an old state house on the north Shore.

1145
01:04:17,135 --> 01:04:20,495
Speaker 3: What can I do? What can I do that doesn't

1146
01:04:20,535 --> 01:04:23,775
Speaker 3: cost me going through the lawyers? Please? As I can't

1147
01:04:23,815 --> 01:04:32,575
Speaker 3: do my drainage until the storm water issue is rectified. Criky.

1148
01:04:32,935 --> 01:04:35,175
Speaker 3: That is quite the conundrum. I would have thought though,

1149
01:04:35,255 --> 01:04:38,215
Speaker 3: if someone causes damage, like if your pipe is there

1150
01:04:38,455 --> 01:04:43,655
Speaker 3: and it's legal, and a development happens and they've somehow

1151
01:04:43,695 --> 01:04:50,735
Speaker 3: cut through it, then why why would you why would

1152
01:04:50,775 --> 01:04:54,735
Speaker 3: council want to wash their hands of that? Surely it's damaged. Oh,

1153
01:04:54,735 --> 01:04:57,095
Speaker 3: I suppose counsel are going look it's damage caused by

1154
01:04:57,135 --> 01:05:00,575
Speaker 3: another contractor that's got nothing to do with us. Therefore

1155
01:05:00,655 --> 01:05:03,895
Speaker 3: you're going to have to sort it out with them.

1156
01:05:04,415 --> 01:05:06,855
Speaker 3: That's probably their approach to it. That's it becomes a

1157
01:05:06,895 --> 01:05:10,895
Speaker 3: civil matter. And to be fair, councils will often go, look,

1158
01:05:11,015 --> 01:05:16,335
Speaker 3: this isn't actually something we have any jurisdiction over. And

1159
01:05:16,735 --> 01:05:19,855
Speaker 3: if they got a video survey done of their new

1160
01:05:19,975 --> 01:05:24,975
Speaker 3: line and it's literally punched through your line, that wouldn't

1161
01:05:24,975 --> 01:05:27,255
Speaker 3: come up on a video survey because the video survey

1162
01:05:27,335 --> 01:05:34,455
Speaker 3: happens inside the existing pipe, which isn't damaged. It's damaged

1163
01:05:34,495 --> 01:05:38,775
Speaker 3: another pipe. Fascinating. I might get in touch with you

1164
01:05:38,815 --> 01:05:41,895
Speaker 3: on that one and see what we can what we

1165
01:05:41,975 --> 01:05:45,095
Speaker 3: could resolve on that lines are open. The number to call, Oh,

1166
01:05:45,095 --> 01:05:49,455
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number call quick

1167
01:05:49,495 --> 01:05:52,495
Speaker 3: text before we go the break, Pete, why suggest cheap

1168
01:05:52,535 --> 01:05:55,895
Speaker 3: options for concrete repairs? The only long term solution is

1169
01:05:55,935 --> 01:05:58,975
Speaker 3: to rip it up and reladd a new concrete pad.

1170
01:05:59,375 --> 01:06:01,855
Speaker 3: I hear what you say in AJ I really do.

1171
01:06:02,015 --> 01:06:06,695
Speaker 3: But you know that's at considerable cost, right and it's

1172
01:06:06,735 --> 01:06:09,735
Speaker 3: also I mean from an environmental point of view, if

1173
01:06:09,775 --> 01:06:14,375
Speaker 3: it's reasonably serviceable. The cost of ripping up fifty square

1174
01:06:14,415 --> 01:06:17,615
Speaker 3: meters at one hundred mil thick, transporting that to a

1175
01:06:17,695 --> 01:06:20,695
Speaker 3: tip site or hopefully to somewhere that they can recycle

1176
01:06:20,735 --> 01:06:24,855
Speaker 3: it and reuse the aggregate is also expensive. Then there's

1177
01:06:24,895 --> 01:06:27,895
Speaker 3: the cost of the new concrete that you have to

1178
01:06:27,975 --> 01:06:31,895
Speaker 3: truck in and place as well. I don't know if

1179
01:06:31,935 --> 01:06:35,055
Speaker 3: it's you know, cheap makes it sound like they're unwilling

1180
01:06:35,095 --> 01:06:38,255
Speaker 3: to spend the money. Cost effective perhaps is a better way.

1181
01:06:38,495 --> 01:06:42,095
Speaker 3: So maybe we're looking for cost effective solutions as opposed

1182
01:06:42,175 --> 01:06:46,255
Speaker 3: to necessarily cheap ones. It's not looking to not do

1183
01:06:46,375 --> 01:06:48,935
Speaker 3: the job well, it's just looking to do something that's

1184
01:06:49,295 --> 01:06:51,935
Speaker 3: cost effective rather than cheap. I think I'll run with

1185
01:06:52,015 --> 01:06:54,975
Speaker 3: cost effective rather than cheap. At the stage, I've got

1186
01:06:54,975 --> 01:06:56,695
Speaker 3: a couple of calls. We'll take a short break. We'll

1187
01:06:56,695 --> 01:06:59,095
Speaker 3: be back with you in just a moment. Here at

1188
01:06:59,135 --> 01:07:03,855
Speaker 3: news Talk SEDB. Your news Talk's EDB. And what is it?

1189
01:07:04,215 --> 01:07:09,535
Speaker 3: Forty three? Beautiful warning here and the rising sun shines

1190
01:07:09,615 --> 01:07:12,935
Speaker 3: nicely into the studio which faces out onto the street,

1191
01:07:13,015 --> 01:07:14,975
Speaker 3: and there is a bakery next door. This is great.

1192
01:07:15,015 --> 01:07:18,655
Speaker 3: I find that hilarious. So lots of trades and lots

1193
01:07:18,655 --> 01:07:21,975
Speaker 3: of people going off to work this morning, popping and

1194
01:07:22,015 --> 01:07:23,975
Speaker 3: grabbing a bite to eat and then hitting the road

1195
01:07:24,095 --> 01:07:27,055
Speaker 3: nice and nearly, right, Kate, A very good morning to you.

1196
01:07:28,495 --> 01:07:29,495
Speaker 11: Oh, good morning.

1197
01:07:29,695 --> 01:07:30,735
Speaker 3: Hey there, Kate, how are you?

1198
01:07:32,495 --> 01:07:32,695
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1199
01:07:32,775 --> 01:07:37,615
Speaker 13: Good, good, thank you. So I'm just calling about our house.

1200
01:07:37,655 --> 01:07:42,135
Speaker 13: It's a lowwood house forty years old and the issue

1201
01:07:42,175 --> 01:07:45,295
Speaker 13: that we have is that two of our doors that

1202
01:07:45,455 --> 01:07:49,695
Speaker 13: open outwards have the bolts on the outside, and those

1203
01:07:49,775 --> 01:07:54,015
Speaker 13: vaults are able to be removed and people can just

1204
01:07:54,095 --> 01:07:54,775
Speaker 13: come in.

1205
01:07:55,535 --> 01:07:58,055
Speaker 3: You mean, like in the hinge.

1206
01:07:58,975 --> 01:08:06,575
Speaker 13: Yes, yes, yeah, We've tried looking around and we just

1207
01:08:06,615 --> 01:08:09,335
Speaker 13: can't find a solution for it.

1208
01:08:10,095 --> 01:08:12,815
Speaker 3: Oh. Look, you will be able to find some hinges

1209
01:08:13,255 --> 01:08:17,695
Speaker 3: that have what they call a fixed pin, right, and

1210
01:08:17,775 --> 01:08:21,655
Speaker 3: so to be fair, most aluminum jeweery you can't really

1211
01:08:21,735 --> 01:08:25,095
Speaker 3: take the pin out. So again it's probably just because

1212
01:08:25,135 --> 01:08:27,495
Speaker 3: of the age. So I think if you went to

1213
01:08:28,895 --> 01:08:31,935
Speaker 3: there's a couple of companies around that specialize in repair

1214
01:08:32,015 --> 01:08:36,295
Speaker 3: and refurbishment of aluminium Jowery. Now, if you got one

1215
01:08:36,295 --> 01:08:39,335
Speaker 3: of those to come around and simply swap the hinges

1216
01:08:39,695 --> 01:08:42,575
Speaker 3: from the door to ones with a fixed pin, that

1217
01:08:42,655 --> 01:08:45,015
Speaker 3: would solve that problem.

1218
01:08:45,455 --> 01:08:48,895
Speaker 13: You know, my husband has got quite about three or

1219
01:08:48,935 --> 01:08:52,775
Speaker 13: four people around and actually can I can I just

1220
01:08:52,855 --> 01:08:54,295
Speaker 13: lee some talking standing right here?

1221
01:08:56,895 --> 01:08:58,815
Speaker 3: Hi, hey there, how are you?

1222
01:09:00,375 --> 01:09:00,575
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1223
01:09:00,735 --> 01:09:04,415
Speaker 12: Okay, yeah, the door was put.

1224
01:09:04,175 --> 01:09:05,775
Speaker 5: In forty years ago.

1225
01:09:05,975 --> 01:09:09,975
Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll probably all technology there, but depending is on

1226
01:09:10,015 --> 01:09:14,375
Speaker 6: the outside, of course, with the pending the outside, Uh,

1227
01:09:14,575 --> 01:09:15,975
Speaker 6: it's easy to.

1228
01:09:15,775 --> 01:09:16,375
Speaker 12: Lift the door.

1229
01:09:16,415 --> 01:09:17,695
Speaker 7: And yes, and.

1230
01:09:19,215 --> 01:09:23,015
Speaker 12: Yeah from a security point of view, we're concerned. So

1231
01:09:24,495 --> 01:09:31,775
Speaker 12: a couple of uh aluminium windows people and basically.

1232
01:09:33,695 --> 01:09:39,175
Speaker 3: Yeah, no solution. Okay, yeah, have you tried to exceed?

1233
01:09:40,895 --> 01:09:43,415
Speaker 6: Yes, you're going to come around next on Monday.

1234
01:09:43,135 --> 01:09:46,735
Speaker 3: I think, okay, yeah, I mean I know that they've

1235
01:09:47,535 --> 01:09:50,455
Speaker 3: they seem to have an extensive range of sort of solutions,

1236
01:09:50,495 --> 01:09:54,095
Speaker 3: so I think hopefully they'll be able to nail it

1237
01:09:54,135 --> 01:09:57,335
Speaker 3: for you pardon the pun, and and that should get

1238
01:09:57,335 --> 01:09:59,895
Speaker 3: it sorted. But yeah, a fixed pin hinge will stop

1239
01:09:59,935 --> 01:10:03,975
Speaker 3: people being able to do exactly that. And almost all

1240
01:10:04,095 --> 01:10:08,095
Speaker 3: new jowinery will have fixed pin hinges for any faces

1241
01:10:08,135 --> 01:10:12,535
Speaker 3: to the exterior. Yeah, that's the way to go. All

1242
01:10:12,535 --> 01:10:15,495
Speaker 3: the best to you, take care bother then, and and

1243
01:10:15,855 --> 01:10:17,215
Speaker 3: a very good morning to you.

1244
01:10:18,495 --> 01:10:22,375
Speaker 14: Good morning people. Morning converted to me, I've become a

1245
01:10:22,455 --> 01:10:24,935
Speaker 14: one zed be no at all, isn't it?

1246
01:10:25,215 --> 01:10:25,935
Speaker 7: Delightful.

1247
01:10:26,255 --> 01:10:30,135
Speaker 14: I love it anyway, What a coincidence. The last man

1248
01:10:30,215 --> 01:10:33,255
Speaker 14: with the storm wad I rang in about the selick

1249
01:10:33,455 --> 01:10:36,855
Speaker 14: coming off by living the Hawks Bay with no runoffs,

1250
01:10:37,135 --> 01:10:41,015
Speaker 14: and it transpires the same kind of thing we've got

1251
01:10:41,055 --> 01:10:44,055
Speaker 14: storm withero issues. It's on my property, which is a

1252
01:10:44,135 --> 01:10:49,975
Speaker 14: three shed the actual I'm the only occupy owner. I'm

1253
01:10:50,015 --> 01:10:53,495
Speaker 14: the only one really affected by the runoffs. So we're

1254
01:10:53,535 --> 01:10:56,895
Speaker 14: just trying to get this is shoe fixed. But it

1255
01:10:56,895 --> 01:10:59,895
Speaker 14: doesn't solve the other problem. But power coincidental. The other

1256
01:10:59,935 --> 01:11:03,215
Speaker 14: gentleman that rang in very I just thought he was

1257
01:11:03,295 --> 01:11:05,695
Speaker 14: ringing out of name.

1258
01:11:05,735 --> 01:11:11,735
Speaker 3: Every Yeah, I know, I think you know. Run off

1259
01:11:11,855 --> 01:11:17,455
Speaker 3: is yeah, it's sorry.

1260
01:11:17,695 --> 01:11:19,815
Speaker 14: Just put some of that expanded stuff in it and

1261
01:11:19,895 --> 01:11:21,735
Speaker 14: hope for the best. That's their solution.

1262
01:11:22,015 --> 01:11:27,535
Speaker 3: What what do you mean expanding Its supposed to be okay,

1263
01:11:27,695 --> 01:11:30,815
Speaker 3: Well then then maybe we should stick to that and

1264
01:11:31,335 --> 01:11:34,575
Speaker 3: until you've got your issues resolved there, good luck with that.

1265
01:11:34,735 --> 01:11:38,015
Speaker 3: I mean, when the storm water or when drainage issues

1266
01:11:38,055 --> 01:11:42,735
Speaker 3: go wrong, they go wrong, and generally quite a spectacular manner. Right,

1267
01:11:42,815 --> 01:11:45,135
Speaker 3: let's talk to Paula. Good morning to you, Paula.

1268
01:11:45,975 --> 01:11:49,775
Speaker 10: Good morning, Hey, how you doing good? Thank you? Just

1269
01:11:49,895 --> 01:11:54,095
Speaker 10: another one about senses and trees. I know you've done

1270
01:11:54,175 --> 01:11:54,655
Speaker 10: quite a bit.

1271
01:11:55,895 --> 01:11:56,215
Speaker 6: Sure.

1272
01:11:58,615 --> 01:12:00,615
Speaker 10: So we've been dealing with our neighbors for about the

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Speaker 10: last five years because he bought the house and the

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Speaker 10: people previous had siented Tetokey's down by the pool. He

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Speaker 10: bought the place, he just let the place go, so

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Speaker 10: all of the trees on all of the boundaries have grown.

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Speaker 10: That Tetokeys have been a problem for us because our

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Speaker 10: house is towards the back of the section. We've always

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Speaker 10: done basically what he wanted to do, which has been

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Speaker 10: either trim the trees on our side. We've had it

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Speaker 10: cut twice and the last time was last year, but

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Speaker 10: he never cut it. He'll never cut it to the

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Speaker 10: top of the fence, which is what we're asking him

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Speaker 10: to do, because it's cutting out all of our light

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Speaker 10: in the back of our house. We've got a musty

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Speaker 10: smell in one of our bedrooms because there's no flight

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Speaker 10: coming in. And last year because I said to him,

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Speaker 10: look what would be a permanent solution to this, what

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Speaker 10: could you see? And he got angry because they said,

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Speaker 10: I'm not pulling them out, which is not necessarily This

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01:13:12,015 --> 01:13:16,335
Speaker 10: permanent solution to me, a permanent solution might be that

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Speaker 10: he cuts them below the fence and then they're low

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Speaker 10: enough for him to cut them regularly. Yes, so he

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Speaker 10: cut them half a meter above the sent and said, okay,

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Speaker 10: when they get to two to three hundred, then he'll

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Speaker 10: cut them again. While they're over that now and he's

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01:13:38,095 --> 01:13:44,415
Speaker 10: intimated he's not interested in dialoguing with us anymore. So

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Speaker 10: what how do we do? So, how do we work

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Speaker 10: this out so that we can get a good outcome

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Speaker 10: and where do we go?

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Speaker 3: I think almost inevitably it will become a legal issue.

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Speaker 3: So we had last year briefly on the show, mainly

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01:14:07,775 --> 01:14:10,015
Speaker 3: talking about fencing, but we got onto the property act

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01:14:10,095 --> 01:14:15,855
Speaker 3: as well. Ben Johnson, who's a lawyer, specializes in this area,

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Speaker 3: and my intention is to get him back on the

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01:14:17,655 --> 01:14:21,415
Speaker 3: show specifically to talk about property issues as it relates

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01:14:21,455 --> 01:14:24,415
Speaker 3: to not so much fencing, but you know, trees that

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01:14:24,455 --> 01:14:29,055
Speaker 3: are planted. The only case that or one case that

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01:14:29,135 --> 01:14:31,335
Speaker 3: I know of where it was a house that I

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01:14:31,375 --> 01:14:33,655
Speaker 3: actually built for a client who happened to be a lawyer.

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01:14:34,935 --> 01:14:38,655
Speaker 3: It enjoyed quite a nice view of the harbor and

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Speaker 3: he was able to have an arrangement, a legal engagement

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01:14:47,615 --> 01:14:51,135
Speaker 3: with the neighbor to ensure that the neighbour's trees never

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01:14:51,335 --> 01:14:55,175
Speaker 3: grew above a certain height, and it was specified, there

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01:14:55,215 --> 01:14:58,255
Speaker 3: was a datum, there was a reference point, and whenever

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01:14:58,295 --> 01:15:01,455
Speaker 3: the trees got to that height, he could I think

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01:15:01,495 --> 01:15:04,455
Speaker 3: he paid for it himself. He would go and trim

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01:15:04,495 --> 01:15:07,775
Speaker 3: the trees to maintain his view. So there is obviously

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01:15:07,775 --> 01:15:13,215
Speaker 3: a legal mechanism for you to protect your view, But

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01:15:14,135 --> 01:15:16,295
Speaker 3: whether or not what you've got as a view, or

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01:15:16,375 --> 01:15:20,455
Speaker 3: whether it's more about amenity and shading and those sorts

1322
01:15:20,455 --> 01:15:24,495
Speaker 3: of things. But ultimately, I think if you can't come

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01:15:24,495 --> 01:15:27,215
Speaker 3: to an arrangement with a neighbor, you're going to have

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01:15:27,255 --> 01:15:30,175
Speaker 3: to get lawyers involved and see whether or not there

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01:15:30,255 --> 01:15:34,215
Speaker 3: is actually something you can do. It might be that

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01:15:34,255 --> 01:15:37,015
Speaker 3: there's actually nothing you can do. That your right is

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01:15:37,135 --> 01:15:40,175
Speaker 3: only to trim trees that are on the boundary, in

1328
01:15:40,215 --> 01:15:42,575
Speaker 3: which case the neighbor is allowed to let the trees

1329
01:15:42,615 --> 01:15:45,135
Speaker 3: go as tall as they want and all you can

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01:15:45,175 --> 01:15:47,895
Speaker 3: do is trim them to the boundary. To get the

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01:15:47,935 --> 01:15:53,415
Speaker 3: neighbor to maintain a consistent height over time is probably

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01:15:53,455 --> 01:15:55,615
Speaker 3: going to be a bit trickier, but it is possible

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01:15:55,655 --> 01:16:00,735
Speaker 3: there is precedent for it, Okay, but almost inevitably it's

1334
01:16:00,775 --> 01:16:07,015
Speaker 3: going to be lawyers involved out going to the council,

1335
01:16:07,135 --> 01:16:09,295
Speaker 3: council and not going to engage. They are going to

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01:16:09,295 --> 01:16:11,895
Speaker 3: say it's a civil matter and to be fair rightly.

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Speaker 10: So okay, yeah, all right.

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Speaker 3: All right. Sorry, it's a little better answer than that.

1339
01:16:17,295 --> 01:16:19,655
Speaker 3: But I will get being back on the show because

1340
01:16:19,895 --> 01:16:21,815
Speaker 3: it's a great topic to talk about. And thank you

1341
01:16:21,815 --> 01:16:26,055
Speaker 3: for reminding me. Thanks my pleasure. All the best, Paula.

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01:16:26,135 --> 01:16:29,295
Speaker 3: You take care your new succeed be paul talk to

1343
01:16:29,295 --> 01:16:32,655
Speaker 3: me about the glass shower door. Oh, opet here you're

1344
01:16:32,655 --> 01:16:34,335
Speaker 3: going good, thanks buddy, and yourself.

1345
01:16:34,895 --> 01:16:38,015
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're pretty good. Then you've got an inline glass

1346
01:16:38,015 --> 01:16:40,335
Speaker 7: shower door, so it's a glass channel attaction and an

1347
01:16:40,335 --> 01:16:43,495
Speaker 7: aluminum structural wall and then the hinge door hand off

1348
01:16:43,495 --> 01:16:45,415
Speaker 7: that and it's just clashing at the top. I'm pretty

1349
01:16:45,415 --> 01:16:50,175
Speaker 7: sure my house was in sunlight, yes, but looking at

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01:16:50,175 --> 01:16:52,615
Speaker 7: the hinges, it looks like it's already been a just

1351
01:16:52,735 --> 01:16:54,415
Speaker 7: as once I can see the glass and sort of

1352
01:16:54,455 --> 01:16:56,735
Speaker 7: hanging further out of the back out of one hinge

1353
01:16:56,815 --> 01:16:58,695
Speaker 7: and the other something might be and there is a

1354
01:16:58,815 --> 01:17:01,495
Speaker 7: lord a bit of space in the trum running down

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01:17:01,535 --> 01:17:02,055
Speaker 7: the wall.

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01:17:01,895 --> 01:17:03,815
Speaker 11: With a glass. I'm just wondering whether it's.

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01:17:03,695 --> 01:17:06,695
Speaker 7: Actually a reset and there rather than a hinge ofdjustment

1358
01:17:06,735 --> 01:17:09,535
Speaker 7: but a little bit for me to manage myself.

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01:17:09,575 --> 01:17:10,615
Speaker 5: And so my question.

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01:17:10,455 --> 01:17:12,695
Speaker 7: Is is that a glazier I get him to have

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01:17:12,735 --> 01:17:14,335
Speaker 7: a look at that, or do I go to a

1362
01:17:14,455 --> 01:17:16,575
Speaker 7: specialist shower install a company.

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Speaker 3: And I would say not all glaziers will want to

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01:17:20,775 --> 01:17:25,495
Speaker 3: do that. So in Auckland there's a company called Dale's

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01:17:25,575 --> 01:17:32,375
Speaker 3: Glazing and he does shower glass installs, and like I've

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01:17:32,455 --> 01:17:34,815
Speaker 3: used them in situations where I've had to take out

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01:17:35,615 --> 01:17:39,215
Speaker 3: a shower enclosure and then do repairs and then have

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Speaker 3: him reset it. So if, for example, what's happened is

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01:17:42,255 --> 01:17:46,215
Speaker 3: the panel needs to be adjusted and pushed deeper into

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01:17:46,255 --> 01:17:49,495
Speaker 3: the recess or into the channel to allow the hinge

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01:17:49,615 --> 01:17:52,255
Speaker 3: to operate properly, he'd be able to pull all of

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01:17:52,255 --> 01:17:54,535
Speaker 3: that apart and put it all back together again. So

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01:17:54,655 --> 01:17:56,015
Speaker 3: just have a look for Dale's Glazing.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it just looks like like the hinge looks

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01:17:59,855 --> 01:18:02,255
Speaker 7: like there's only a couple of miles swing adjustment, you know,

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Speaker 7: between the two channels.

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Speaker 11: They would be marginal.

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Speaker 7: Whether I think they can get it on.

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Speaker 5: But I just.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, you know, if for example, taking the

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01:18:12,295 --> 01:18:17,175
Speaker 3: panel out is not an effective solution, then possibly what

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01:18:17,215 --> 01:18:20,095
Speaker 3: you do is keep all of your existing panels, just

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01:18:20,175 --> 01:18:22,775
Speaker 3: have the glass door remade. You won't be able to

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01:18:22,815 --> 01:18:26,655
Speaker 3: trim it down obviously, have it remailed slightly smaller, and

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01:18:26,695 --> 01:18:29,855
Speaker 3: then put that in and and that then becomes you know,

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01:18:29,935 --> 01:18:32,375
Speaker 3: rather than having to disassemble the shower and put it

1387
01:18:32,375 --> 01:18:35,215
Speaker 3: all back together again, if it's just remaking the door,

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01:18:35,255 --> 01:18:37,415
Speaker 3: that might be not a bad solution as well. But

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Speaker 3: like Dale about.

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Speaker 11: It, Yeah, tears.

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Speaker 7: Thanks. You know, I should have left a little bit

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01:18:43,055 --> 01:18:45,615
Speaker 7: more tolerant. I mean, the shower heaps face the other way,

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01:18:45,615 --> 01:18:49,175
Speaker 7: so there's no chance of any water coming out, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you go, oh that's really nice. I've got a

1395
01:18:52,175 --> 01:18:54,095
Speaker 3: two mil gap, But there's not a lot of tolerance

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01:18:54,135 --> 01:18:56,855
Speaker 3: in the two mil gap, whereas, like you say, a

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01:18:56,895 --> 01:18:59,095
Speaker 3: four or five mil gap wouldn't have made any difference

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01:18:59,135 --> 01:19:03,735
Speaker 3: to the water. Yeah nice, good luck with that. Give

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01:19:03,815 --> 01:19:06,815
Speaker 3: them a call. I'm sure you'll help you out. Perfect Radio.

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01:19:06,895 --> 01:19:09,335
Speaker 3: We've got more calls straight after New Sport and we're

1401
01:19:09,335 --> 01:19:11,295
Speaker 3: the top of the hour at eight o'clock and as

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01:19:11,335 --> 01:19:13,695
Speaker 3: always we will jump into the garden with rough climb

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01:19:13,735 --> 01:19:16,935
Speaker 3: passed from eight point thirty this morning. Had a bit

1404
01:19:16,935 --> 01:19:19,095
Speaker 3: of a check with him this morning. It sounds like

1405
01:19:19,135 --> 01:19:21,815
Speaker 3: he's excited as I am to the fact that we're

1406
01:19:21,855 --> 01:19:25,135
Speaker 3: off to Wingspan tomorrow, which I'm really really looking forward

1407
01:19:25,135 --> 01:19:28,175
Speaker 3: to as well. We're down in Torona, beautiful down here

1408
01:19:29,015 --> 01:19:32,295
Speaker 3: at the moment, and lovely to hear those classic fighters

1409
01:19:32,335 --> 01:19:34,295
Speaker 3: flying around yesterday too, back after.

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01:19:34,095 --> 01:19:38,775
Speaker 4: The break, Baby what sid so we talked about ly

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01:19:39,575 --> 01:19:42,695
Speaker 4: a part of carp and your guitar and Jama smoke

1412
01:19:42,935 --> 01:19:45,935
Speaker 4: and we're staying it on with cute the songs and

1413
01:19:46,015 --> 01:19:48,175
Speaker 4: Wi get Gold. Where are you?

1414
01:19:48,375 --> 01:19:48,815
Speaker 6: And home?

1415
01:19:49,655 --> 01:19:52,935
Speaker 4: Wa did on the porch for you, sat there alone

1416
01:19:54,095 --> 01:19:57,135
Speaker 4: throughout the mart and she got a hunch down there.

1417
01:19:57,255 --> 01:20:01,055
Speaker 4: A guy is snugger around the back empty cans and

1418
01:20:01,215 --> 01:20:05,255
Speaker 4: I'll be damned your bags were letter pad, your bootstuff.

1419
01:20:05,295 --> 01:20:07,375
Speaker 4: We're going to your should great.

1420
01:20:11,095 --> 01:20:19,735
Speaker 3: Fun and a very very good morning to you. It

1421
01:20:19,815 --> 01:20:22,695
Speaker 3: is six minutes after eight at news Talks. There'd be

1422
01:20:22,775 --> 01:20:24,895
Speaker 3: in fact anywhere in the country today. It's eight minutes,

1423
01:20:25,095 --> 01:20:27,455
Speaker 3: six minutes after eight. My name is Pete wolf Camp,

1424
01:20:27,495 --> 01:20:30,935
Speaker 3: resident builder. This is the resident builder on Sunday, looking

1425
01:20:30,975 --> 01:20:34,495
Speaker 3: forward to your calls and conversation around all things building,

1426
01:20:34,615 --> 01:20:36,895
Speaker 3: and I guess you know, by extension to that, it's

1427
01:20:36,975 --> 01:20:39,575
Speaker 3: kind of home ownership as well. So we've we spent

1428
01:20:39,655 --> 01:20:41,775
Speaker 3: a little bit of time talking about drainage today, we've

1429
01:20:41,775 --> 01:20:44,855
Speaker 3: talked a little bit about I guess property matters in

1430
01:20:44,975 --> 01:20:50,255
Speaker 3: terms of you know, neighbors and trees. Certainly, as I

1431
01:20:50,335 --> 01:20:53,815
Speaker 3: mentioned before, we had a sort of a new expert

1432
01:20:53,855 --> 01:20:57,695
Speaker 3: on the show last year, a lawyer specializing in the

1433
01:20:57,695 --> 01:21:01,535
Speaker 3: Property Law Act. It is my intention definitely to have

1434
01:21:01,655 --> 01:21:04,895
Speaker 3: been back with us again, and in fact, just a

1435
01:21:04,975 --> 01:21:09,415
Speaker 3: quick wrap up on that. Someone has sent through a

1436
01:21:09,455 --> 01:21:13,095
Speaker 3: couple of links to things like if you go to

1437
01:21:13,175 --> 01:21:17,495
Speaker 3: Regent Law neighbors trees blocking your view is a good one.

1438
01:21:18,015 --> 01:21:20,695
Speaker 3: The other one that has come through text has come

1439
01:21:20,735 --> 01:21:23,735
Speaker 3: through you can get a neighbor's tree removed. The Property

1440
01:21:23,855 --> 01:21:27,295
Speaker 3: Law Act may provide a remedy for homeowners that find

1441
01:21:27,335 --> 01:21:31,295
Speaker 3: themselves in this predicament. If your neighbor's tree poses an

1442
01:21:31,375 --> 01:21:35,695
Speaker 3: actual or potential risk, it's unduly obstructing your views or

1443
01:21:35,815 --> 01:21:40,335
Speaker 3: unduly interferes with your land and your land use, then

1444
01:21:40,415 --> 01:21:43,335
Speaker 3: you can go to the court and have that imposed.

1445
01:21:43,335 --> 01:21:47,535
Speaker 3: But ultimately it is going to mean engaging with lawyers

1446
01:21:47,895 --> 01:21:50,255
Speaker 3: in order to get that done. Unless you go to

1447
01:21:50,295 --> 01:21:54,215
Speaker 3: your neighbor, present all of the legislation and go you

1448
01:21:54,295 --> 01:21:55,935
Speaker 3: realize that I can do this, You're going to have

1449
01:21:55,975 --> 01:21:58,255
Speaker 3: to do it anyway. So why don't we just reach

1450
01:21:58,295 --> 01:22:03,175
Speaker 3: an agreement. It'd be nice if all neighborly agreements were

1451
01:22:03,255 --> 01:22:07,695
Speaker 3: resolved logically and sensibly. We all know that so many

1452
01:22:07,695 --> 01:22:11,295
Speaker 3: of them don't. Unfortunately, Ruth's going to join us at

1453
01:22:11,335 --> 01:22:15,215
Speaker 3: eight thirty this morning. What we're taking your calls on

1454
01:22:15,295 --> 01:22:18,055
Speaker 3: all things building right through at eight thirty this morning,

1455
01:22:18,055 --> 01:22:21,375
Speaker 3: and your texts as well, and a very good morning

1456
01:22:21,375 --> 01:22:22,175
Speaker 3: to you, Hamish.

1457
01:22:23,095 --> 01:22:23,975
Speaker 11: Hey, how's the going?

1458
01:22:24,335 --> 01:22:25,695
Speaker 3: Very well? Thinks I mission yourself.

1459
01:22:26,775 --> 01:22:31,695
Speaker 11: Yeah, Hey, I've got some friends that just bought a

1460
01:22:31,735 --> 01:22:38,415
Speaker 11: house and one of their neighboring senses is like just

1461
01:22:38,495 --> 01:22:40,935
Speaker 11: normal timber paling fence and then they've got a little bit.

1462
01:22:40,855 --> 01:22:41,855
Speaker 6: Of us at the top.

1463
01:22:42,135 --> 01:22:48,535
Speaker 11: Yes, and apparently they don't really like this neighbor. They

1464
01:22:48,655 --> 01:22:52,735
Speaker 11: think he's a bit crazy or something. So they asked

1465
01:22:52,775 --> 01:22:55,495
Speaker 11: me if I was able to fill in the trellis

1466
01:22:55,855 --> 01:22:59,735
Speaker 11: part with like timber palings. Yes, and they need to

1467
01:22:59,775 --> 01:23:04,175
Speaker 11: talk to their neighbor about doing it. And I wasn't

1468
01:23:04,215 --> 01:23:06,495
Speaker 11: really sure. I was like, well, if that's on so

1469
01:23:06,895 --> 01:23:10,455
Speaker 11: removed tallie, If on your side of fence, you can

1470
01:23:10,535 --> 01:23:11,775
Speaker 11: probably do whatever you like.

1471
01:23:12,575 --> 01:23:14,935
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the probably is a little bit of

1472
01:23:14,975 --> 01:23:20,135
Speaker 3: a long stretch. I there's a funny thing with trellis.

1473
01:23:20,135 --> 01:23:23,415
Speaker 3: Apparently trallis is not like let's say you do a

1474
01:23:23,415 --> 01:23:25,455
Speaker 3: one point eight meter high fence and then you put

1475
01:23:25,455 --> 01:23:28,695
Speaker 3: a four hundred milimeter section of trellis on the top.

1476
01:23:29,095 --> 01:23:34,975
Speaker 3: The trellis is not considered to be part of the fence, right,

1477
01:23:35,055 --> 01:23:38,055
Speaker 3: so it doesn't then make the fence two point two

1478
01:23:38,055 --> 01:23:41,415
Speaker 3: meters high because and this is where it does get

1479
01:23:41,455 --> 01:23:45,215
Speaker 3: a little bit confusing. Around the country, there are different

1480
01:23:45,335 --> 01:23:52,735
Speaker 3: planning regulations about the height of a fence. So, like

1481
01:23:52,895 --> 01:23:55,695
Speaker 3: I was quite surprised to read. I think it was

1482
01:23:55,855 --> 01:23:58,335
Speaker 3: somewhere in the Munno with two for example, that you

1483
01:23:58,415 --> 01:24:01,655
Speaker 3: can have a two point seven meter high boundary fence.

1484
01:24:02,255 --> 01:24:06,615
Speaker 3: And I'm like, that's massive, right, you know. And I

1485
01:24:06,615 --> 01:24:10,655
Speaker 3: know for example, in some suburbs in Auckland and Waycutta

1486
01:24:10,735 --> 01:24:14,735
Speaker 3: as well, your front fence is limited to being eleven

1487
01:24:14,815 --> 01:24:19,135
Speaker 3: hundred high. And I had always worked on the assumption

1488
01:24:19,255 --> 01:24:22,735
Speaker 3: that you can build a boundary fence as of right.

1489
01:24:22,935 --> 01:24:25,495
Speaker 3: So if you build a fence and it's on your

1490
01:24:25,615 --> 01:24:27,655
Speaker 3: side of the boundary, and you go to one point

1491
01:24:27,655 --> 01:24:31,935
Speaker 3: eight meters, you can do that without discussion with a neighbor. Obviously,

1492
01:24:31,975 --> 01:24:34,655
Speaker 3: if you're deciding to share the boundary and put the

1493
01:24:34,655 --> 01:24:36,975
Speaker 3: fence over the boundary line, you both need to be

1494
01:24:37,015 --> 01:24:40,295
Speaker 3: an agreement. You can go to two meters with agreement

1495
01:24:40,495 --> 01:24:42,415
Speaker 3: to the neighbor. So if you both give consent, you

1496
01:24:42,415 --> 01:24:45,415
Speaker 3: can go to two meters beyond that, Often you might

1497
01:24:45,495 --> 01:24:48,695
Speaker 3: be required to get a building consent for that. So

1498
01:24:48,775 --> 01:24:50,455
Speaker 3: that's kind of some of the background. So if you

1499
01:24:50,575 --> 01:24:53,375
Speaker 3: had how high do you think this existing fence is

1500
01:24:53,735 --> 01:24:54,695
Speaker 3: without the trellis.

1501
01:24:56,695 --> 01:24:59,295
Speaker 11: I think with the trailers that's probably one point eight.

1502
01:24:59,935 --> 01:25:02,255
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so it's relatively short fence.

1503
01:25:03,095 --> 01:25:05,455
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's not so much a height thing. It's more

1504
01:25:06,095 --> 01:25:07,375
Speaker 11: a privacy yes.

1505
01:25:09,015 --> 01:25:13,895
Speaker 3: See true, Yeah, I can understand that. Again, I'd just

1506
01:25:14,055 --> 01:25:18,975
Speaker 3: be a little bit cautious around assuming that the inside

1507
01:25:19,615 --> 01:25:22,495
Speaker 3: face or the face that is on your towards your

1508
01:25:22,575 --> 01:25:26,295
Speaker 3: friend's property is actually their land, Like do you know

1509
01:25:26,335 --> 01:25:29,375
Speaker 3: where the boundary is the actual legal boundary.

1510
01:25:30,375 --> 01:25:34,455
Speaker 11: I would happen to get a lot, yeah, because they

1511
01:25:34,495 --> 01:25:38,735
Speaker 11: were saying it's their house. The neighbor's house is built first,

1512
01:25:39,175 --> 01:25:43,495
Speaker 11: then it would technically probably be their sense or something.

1513
01:25:44,775 --> 01:25:47,175
Speaker 3: I think it really depends on where the boundary is,

1514
01:25:47,215 --> 01:25:50,855
Speaker 3: and you certainly can't assume that the boundary is the fence, right.

1515
01:25:51,255 --> 01:25:54,855
Speaker 3: Fences get made or placed all over the place, and

1516
01:25:54,975 --> 01:25:57,495
Speaker 3: only every now and then do they actually happen to

1517
01:25:57,535 --> 01:26:00,095
Speaker 3: be on the boundary. You might get lucky and find

1518
01:26:00,135 --> 01:26:03,015
Speaker 3: that at either end of the fence there is either

1519
01:26:03,415 --> 01:26:07,175
Speaker 3: the original survey mark the boundary peak like a white

1520
01:26:07,175 --> 01:26:10,015
Speaker 3: peg driven into the ground, or you might find that

1521
01:26:10,055 --> 01:26:12,615
Speaker 3: if the fence has been done and then the surveyor

1522
01:26:12,655 --> 01:26:16,895
Speaker 3: has come through to determine the boundary or confirm the boundary,

1523
01:26:17,015 --> 01:26:19,775
Speaker 3: they put a little silver disk in which is a

1524
01:26:19,775 --> 01:26:22,775
Speaker 3: survey mark, and then you can figure out where the

1525
01:26:22,775 --> 01:26:26,655
Speaker 3: boundary is from there. So let's say the fence is

1526
01:26:26,735 --> 01:26:29,895
Speaker 3: actually on your friend's property, because you know where the

1527
01:26:29,895 --> 01:26:32,855
Speaker 3: boundary is, then I don't think i'd have any hesitation

1528
01:26:32,935 --> 01:26:34,815
Speaker 3: about going, Oh well, I'm just going to extend those

1529
01:26:34,855 --> 01:26:37,495
Speaker 3: palings up to the top of the fence. At one

1530
01:26:37,535 --> 01:26:41,695
Speaker 3: point eight and effectively block out the trellis. I think

1531
01:26:41,735 --> 01:26:46,975
Speaker 3: if the fence is actually on the neighbor's property, then

1532
01:26:47,175 --> 01:26:49,775
Speaker 3: you could argue it's actually trespass you're going on to

1533
01:26:49,855 --> 01:26:54,495
Speaker 3: the neighbor's property without their permission. Or if they can

1534
01:26:54,575 --> 01:26:57,135
Speaker 3: get the neighbor on a good day and just say

1535
01:26:57,135 --> 01:26:59,055
Speaker 3: how would you feel about us filling in the side

1536
01:26:59,095 --> 01:27:01,175
Speaker 3: and they go, yeah, you do whatever you want. Then

1537
01:27:01,415 --> 01:27:03,495
Speaker 3: you do whatever you want and you rip into it

1538
01:27:03,535 --> 01:27:07,335
Speaker 3: that day. And what if a is like being on

1539
01:27:07,375 --> 01:27:11,935
Speaker 3: the boundary high if it straddles the boundary, Oh gosh,

1540
01:27:11,975 --> 01:27:14,095
Speaker 3: that's a really good question. If it you know, like

1541
01:27:14,175 --> 01:27:16,055
Speaker 3: if the posts, let's say the one hundred bie hundred

1542
01:27:16,095 --> 01:27:19,655
Speaker 3: posts and the dead center of the boundary, so fifty

1543
01:27:19,655 --> 01:27:24,015
Speaker 3: mili on each side. Again, then you could argue probably

1544
01:27:24,095 --> 01:27:27,895
Speaker 3: that that side facing the neighbor your friends, is actually

1545
01:27:27,975 --> 01:27:33,655
Speaker 3: your property. And you could add some I suppose. I

1546
01:27:33,735 --> 01:27:36,295
Speaker 3: keep circling back to the fact that with the trellis,

1547
01:27:36,335 --> 01:27:38,895
Speaker 3: it's only one point eight meters, right, So it's not

1548
01:27:38,935 --> 01:27:43,095
Speaker 3: a massively high fence. Most fences are typically solid to

1549
01:27:43,175 --> 01:27:47,095
Speaker 3: one point eight meters, And if it did become solid

1550
01:27:47,095 --> 01:27:49,575
Speaker 3: to one point eight meters, would anyone have a concern

1551
01:27:49,615 --> 01:27:50,015
Speaker 3: about it.

1552
01:27:52,255 --> 01:27:56,015
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, okay, Well, is.

1553
01:27:56,015 --> 01:27:58,815
Speaker 3: It a lot of work to fill in that trellis?

1554
01:27:59,095 --> 01:28:01,215
Speaker 3: And what would you do because you don't want to

1555
01:28:01,335 --> 01:28:05,135
Speaker 3: end up with a join that runs along at fourteen

1556
01:28:05,215 --> 01:28:07,895
Speaker 3: hundred high and whole lot of little short bits of

1557
01:28:08,055 --> 01:28:10,055
Speaker 3: paling on top. It looked terrible, isn't it.

1558
01:28:11,655 --> 01:28:15,815
Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't know about that yet.

1559
01:28:19,375 --> 01:28:21,375
Speaker 3: I saw one of those the other day actually, just

1560
01:28:21,375 --> 01:28:23,295
Speaker 3: by the by. I was out for a walk and

1561
01:28:23,775 --> 01:28:26,655
Speaker 3: someone had a fence that was about, oh, let's say,

1562
01:28:26,655 --> 01:28:28,855
Speaker 3: it was like one point two one point three high,

1563
01:28:28,895 --> 01:28:31,175
Speaker 3: and obviously they wanted to extend it up to one

1564
01:28:31,255 --> 01:28:34,255
Speaker 3: point eight and they just added pieces to the top

1565
01:28:34,295 --> 01:28:37,055
Speaker 3: of it, and they weren't even the same type of timber.

1566
01:28:37,095 --> 01:28:39,535
Speaker 3: It was like a picket fence down below, and then

1567
01:28:39,575 --> 01:28:42,535
Speaker 3: they'd put rough sworn palings on a bit of wonky

1568
01:28:42,655 --> 01:28:47,135
Speaker 3: framing above it. It just looked hideous, I have to say,

1569
01:28:47,215 --> 01:28:55,775
Speaker 3: so please don't make it ugly. Hey, good luck with it, buddy,

1570
01:28:56,095 --> 01:28:57,855
Speaker 3: all the very best. Good on you for helping your

1571
01:28:57,855 --> 01:29:01,215
Speaker 3: mates out. All right, you take care, see buddy, Bye bye.

1572
01:29:01,935 --> 01:29:05,695
Speaker 3: That's fantastic. Filling in the trellis is going to material

1573
01:29:05,775 --> 01:29:07,975
Speaker 3: this is a text. Obviously, filling in the trellis is

1574
01:29:08,335 --> 01:29:11,295
Speaker 3: going to material and visually change both sides of the fence.

1575
01:29:11,575 --> 01:29:15,295
Speaker 3: So unless the fence is entirely on the property, the

1576
01:29:15,335 --> 01:29:17,935
Speaker 3: neighbor's property, the friends properly, I can't see how that

1577
01:29:17,975 --> 01:29:20,335
Speaker 3: would be okay, and I tend to agree with you.

1578
01:29:20,695 --> 01:29:23,255
Speaker 3: I think even if it was fifty to fifty, let's say,

1579
01:29:23,695 --> 01:29:26,375
Speaker 3: I think you could only do it with the agreement

1580
01:29:26,535 --> 01:29:29,535
Speaker 3: of the other party. You're absolutely right on that. One

1581
01:29:29,695 --> 01:29:31,815
Speaker 3: oh eight, one hundred eighty, ten eighty. We'll take a

1582
01:29:31,855 --> 01:29:34,095
Speaker 3: couple more calls before we jump into the garden with

1583
01:29:34,415 --> 01:29:36,615
Speaker 3: rud I see if I can answer this one, Pete.

1584
01:29:36,615 --> 01:29:39,015
Speaker 3: I'm asking about the height of my car port on

1585
01:29:39,055 --> 01:29:42,575
Speaker 3: a boundary line. The frame is in the specified measurements,

1586
01:29:42,815 --> 01:29:45,215
Speaker 3: but the roof is on angle for water flow down

1587
01:29:45,215 --> 01:29:48,375
Speaker 3: to the downpipe. Is the height of the roof being

1588
01:29:48,455 --> 01:29:51,335
Speaker 3: higher on one side still mean it's in the spec

1589
01:29:51,975 --> 01:29:57,295
Speaker 3: I presume that, if, for example, the roof slopes down

1590
01:29:57,335 --> 01:30:01,135
Speaker 3: towards the boundary, then that would need to be under

1591
01:30:01,255 --> 01:30:03,615
Speaker 3: what they call the recession plane. So there's a height

1592
01:30:03,695 --> 01:30:08,015
Speaker 3: in relation to boundary that very is depending on which boundary.

1593
01:30:08,055 --> 01:30:11,855
Speaker 3: In terms of whether it's north south east west may

1594
01:30:11,895 --> 01:30:16,695
Speaker 3: depend a little bit on local planning regulations. Sometimes, you know,

1595
01:30:16,735 --> 01:30:19,615
Speaker 3: with buildings you might have like a gable end right

1596
01:30:19,975 --> 01:30:23,655
Speaker 3: that intersects the height in relation to boundary, but it's

1597
01:30:23,775 --> 01:30:27,015
Speaker 3: not an issue because council consider they have a bit

1598
01:30:27,055 --> 01:30:31,255
Speaker 3: of leeway on that and going it's it's a minor infringement,

1599
01:30:31,655 --> 01:30:35,495
Speaker 3: Whereas if it's the entire building then in fringes then

1600
01:30:35,535 --> 01:30:42,255
Speaker 3: that's that's a problem. So I think at this stage

1601
01:30:43,015 --> 01:30:45,655
Speaker 3: it would seem okay as long as the bulk of

1602
01:30:45,695 --> 01:30:49,135
Speaker 3: the building is within the height in relation to boundary

1603
01:30:49,255 --> 01:30:51,935
Speaker 3: or within that recession plane. Oh eight hundred and eighty

1604
01:30:52,015 --> 01:30:54,535
Speaker 3: ten eighty will come back and talk to Tanya after

1605
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Speaker 7: Z B.

1625
01:32:13,735 --> 01:32:16,455
Speaker 3: Your news Talk s B. We're talking building to late thirty.

1626
01:32:16,495 --> 01:32:18,295
Speaker 3: Then we're into the garden with the red climb pass.

1627
01:32:18,375 --> 01:32:22,255
Speaker 12: Tanya, good morning, good morning, How are you very well?

1628
01:32:22,295 --> 01:32:22,815
Speaker 3: And you.

1629
01:32:24,255 --> 01:32:24,455
Speaker 4: Wow?

1630
01:32:24,535 --> 01:32:28,055
Speaker 15: Thank you. I just wanted to go off the back

1631
01:32:28,095 --> 01:32:32,735
Speaker 15: of an earlier court who raised the issue around boundaries. Yes,

1632
01:32:32,935 --> 01:32:36,375
Speaker 15: we have a neighbor who's recently moved in and they've

1633
01:32:36,375 --> 01:32:41,375
Speaker 15: actually moved their fence in towards their home, so within

1634
01:32:41,415 --> 01:32:45,695
Speaker 15: their boundary. Yes, outside of that boundary of all their trees,

1635
01:32:46,295 --> 01:32:50,335
Speaker 15: bush flowers, et cetera, and often become overgrown and they

1636
01:32:50,375 --> 01:32:56,095
Speaker 15: don't maintain that we're wanting to maintain that. Actually, are

1637
01:32:56,135 --> 01:32:59,215
Speaker 15: we trespassing as a result of trying to maintain that

1638
01:32:59,535 --> 01:33:02,415
Speaker 15: because it's more visible on our side of the fence.

1639
01:33:03,175 --> 01:33:06,855
Speaker 3: My understanding has always been that as a neighbor, you

1640
01:33:07,175 --> 01:33:12,415
Speaker 3: are entitled to remove any vegetation that hangs over your boundary. Right, So,

1641
01:33:12,535 --> 01:33:16,255
Speaker 3: typically we're talking about, you know, the typical scenario is

1642
01:33:16,295 --> 01:33:19,135
Speaker 3: there's a fence on the boundary, someone plants some trees

1643
01:33:19,215 --> 01:33:21,055
Speaker 3: or a hedge or something like that, it grows up,

1644
01:33:21,135 --> 01:33:24,135
Speaker 3: hangs over. You can cut that off. And so what

1645
01:33:24,175 --> 01:33:26,335
Speaker 3: you have to imagine is there is a line which

1646
01:33:26,375 --> 01:33:29,695
Speaker 3: is your boundary between you and your neighbor. Any of

1647
01:33:29,735 --> 01:33:34,135
Speaker 3: your neighbors trees or foliage that grows over that line

1648
01:33:34,255 --> 01:33:37,495
Speaker 3: you can remove. But I think you're right that if

1649
01:33:37,535 --> 01:33:41,615
Speaker 3: you try, if you then enter the property and technically

1650
01:33:41,855 --> 01:33:45,335
Speaker 3: start trimming bushes or something like that, then that could

1651
01:33:45,415 --> 01:33:46,655
Speaker 3: be regarded as trespass.

1652
01:33:46,695 --> 01:33:51,255
Speaker 15: I guess okay, Now, I just wanted to seek clarity

1653
01:33:51,255 --> 01:33:54,335
Speaker 15: on it because I'm actually about to start that this morning.

1654
01:33:54,335 --> 01:33:56,055
Speaker 12: I at all.

1655
01:33:56,535 --> 01:33:59,455
Speaker 3: Yeah. So look, if you know where the boundary is,

1656
01:33:59,935 --> 01:34:03,015
Speaker 3: you're i think quite confident being able to go along

1657
01:34:03,135 --> 01:34:06,095
Speaker 3: and trim absolutely everything back to that boundary.

1658
01:34:07,415 --> 01:34:11,295
Speaker 15: Okay, no, that's perfect, thank you. I think I made

1659
01:34:11,535 --> 01:34:12,855
Speaker 15: a huge estate this morning.

1660
01:34:13,055 --> 01:34:15,495
Speaker 3: Might end up with some slightly ugly looking trees after

1661
01:34:15,535 --> 01:34:17,935
Speaker 3: a little while, you know where they kind of get

1662
01:34:18,015 --> 01:34:20,735
Speaker 3: denuded on one side. But hey, look it might prompt

1663
01:34:20,735 --> 01:34:23,495
Speaker 3: the neighbor to do the right thing. I mean, could

1664
01:34:24,055 --> 01:34:25,535
Speaker 3: you know I can see it from your point of view.

1665
01:34:25,575 --> 01:34:27,215
Speaker 3: It's a little bit cheeky, isn't it. You know, I'm

1666
01:34:27,215 --> 01:34:28,415
Speaker 3: going to move the fence and I'm going to do

1667
01:34:28,535 --> 01:34:31,335
Speaker 3: some planting on the outside. Then I'm going to ignore it. Well,

1668
01:34:31,375 --> 01:34:35,495
Speaker 3: that's that's not great. Good luck with the gardening.

1669
01:34:36,735 --> 01:34:37,855
Speaker 7: Thank you so much all this.

1670
01:34:38,495 --> 01:34:41,175
Speaker 3: You take care bother them. Jules are very good morning

1671
01:34:41,175 --> 01:34:41,455
Speaker 3: to you.

1672
01:34:42,855 --> 01:34:43,615
Speaker 7: Hi, Pete.

1673
01:34:43,655 --> 01:34:46,575
Speaker 6: We've got a eighteen year old home we rent in

1674
01:34:46,655 --> 01:34:51,015
Speaker 6: North Canterbury. It has a pair of put roof over

1675
01:34:51,055 --> 01:34:55,375
Speaker 6: the garage and the bedroom section is parapet with an

1676
01:34:55,455 --> 01:34:58,495
Speaker 6: internal gathering on the south side, with a beauty and

1677
01:34:58,535 --> 01:35:02,015
Speaker 6: old product on both the garret and the internal and

1678
01:35:02,135 --> 01:35:04,695
Speaker 6: there's also in the bedroom section because we've got an

1679
01:35:04,735 --> 01:35:08,495
Speaker 6: internal hallway, we've got a raise section over the bedroom

1680
01:35:08,535 --> 01:35:10,695
Speaker 6: in the middle of that part. So there's about an

1681
01:35:10,695 --> 01:35:14,655
Speaker 6: eight hundred mil footprint of beautanol around that which leads

1682
01:35:14,695 --> 01:35:18,535
Speaker 6: into the back of the southern internal gathering. See, I've

1683
01:35:18,575 --> 01:35:21,495
Speaker 6: just been I've been busy over the years. It's from

1684
01:35:21,535 --> 01:35:23,775
Speaker 6: the good old, bad old days when they fly down

1685
01:35:23,855 --> 01:35:28,335
Speaker 6: with nails and just didn't see. You probably know what

1686
01:35:28,415 --> 01:35:30,975
Speaker 6: I'm going to say that look, it's pretty good. The

1687
01:35:30,975 --> 01:35:33,375
Speaker 6: old one has popped. But I have used one product

1688
01:35:33,375 --> 01:35:35,495
Speaker 6: about six years ago and I just stay on top

1689
01:35:35,535 --> 01:35:39,095
Speaker 6: of it as the maintenance. The product I use, I

1690
01:35:39,215 --> 01:35:41,135
Speaker 6: probably won't mention it, but it's been pretty good. But

1691
01:35:41,175 --> 01:35:44,295
Speaker 6: I'm looking for more of a the property we're in

1692
01:35:44,335 --> 01:35:46,615
Speaker 6: now in Nowson at the moment, it's got like almost

1693
01:35:46,615 --> 01:35:51,095
Speaker 6: a fiberglass looking look on the deck with out front. Yeah,

1694
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Speaker 6: and I'm probably just looking to, you know, just prolong

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01:35:53,695 --> 01:35:56,015
Speaker 6: the life and protect it. And I use the reasonably

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01:35:56,015 --> 01:35:58,735
Speaker 6: good light colored paint is also to reflect UV And

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01:35:58,815 --> 01:36:02,415
Speaker 6: just if you've got any suggestion, I think.

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01:36:03,055 --> 01:36:07,855
Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's very well put. I think something

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01:36:07,855 --> 01:36:10,135
Speaker 3: you said is that you're on the right track. You're

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01:36:10,175 --> 01:36:12,895
Speaker 3: looking to prolong its life, but at a certain point

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01:36:13,455 --> 01:36:17,175
Speaker 3: you really need to be looking at replacement. Right that

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01:36:18,775 --> 01:36:22,135
Speaker 3: it's done pretty well for this amount of time, I

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01:36:22,175 --> 01:36:25,415
Speaker 3: think you can extend its life by applying coatings over

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01:36:25,455 --> 01:36:29,095
Speaker 3: the top and being fairly fastidious around the maintenance. But

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01:36:29,215 --> 01:36:31,095
Speaker 3: at a certain stage you're probably going to have to

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01:36:31,135 --> 01:36:35,855
Speaker 3: strip it and either relay it or use an alternative product,

1707
01:36:36,215 --> 01:36:40,135
Speaker 3: of which there are a number out there. And because

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01:36:41,775 --> 01:36:44,735
Speaker 3: you know, what will start to happen, obviously is the

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01:36:44,775 --> 01:36:49,895
Speaker 3: original buttantole will either start to delaminate or the substrate

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01:36:49,975 --> 01:36:54,455
Speaker 3: will move, and that'll cause some stretching and some tearing

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01:36:54,535 --> 01:36:59,175
Speaker 3: perhaps in the membrane. And again, you know it was

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01:36:59,215 --> 01:37:01,135
Speaker 3: the bad old days, we just fix it all down

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01:37:01,175 --> 01:37:03,615
Speaker 3: with nails. They tend to work their way up and

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01:37:03,655 --> 01:37:06,735
Speaker 3: eventually come up through the butteanole, and really you can't

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01:37:06,895 --> 01:37:09,735
Speaker 3: replace or you can't fix that without taking the buttantyl off.

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01:37:10,015 --> 01:37:14,335
Speaker 3: So I think I would probably say to you, keep

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01:37:14,375 --> 01:37:17,815
Speaker 3: doing what you're doing for as long as you reasonably can,

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01:37:18,455 --> 01:37:20,735
Speaker 3: and then at a certain stage you just say, look,

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01:37:20,775 --> 01:37:25,575
Speaker 3: I'm going to bite the bullet and replace it. Where

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01:37:25,615 --> 01:37:28,775
Speaker 3: the replacement and why people often put off the replacement.

1721
01:37:29,255 --> 01:37:32,975
Speaker 3: Is that often the in your case, the buttantol extends

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01:37:33,095 --> 01:37:35,975
Speaker 3: up under the weather boards, or it goes up and

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01:37:36,215 --> 01:37:40,455
Speaker 3: underneath the threshold of a ranch slider or doors, that

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01:37:40,495 --> 01:37:44,175
Speaker 3: sort of thing. So the repair tends to involve removing

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01:37:44,255 --> 01:37:48,295
Speaker 3: some of the clatting, removing the joinery. Yeah, all of

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01:37:48,295 --> 01:37:50,255
Speaker 3: that sort of thing, and it does become a bit

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01:37:50,255 --> 01:37:50,935
Speaker 3: of a big job.

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01:37:52,095 --> 01:37:54,695
Speaker 6: Yees, No, that's fine. No, I was afraid you're going

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01:37:54,735 --> 01:37:56,455
Speaker 6: to say that. No, no, thank you very much.

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01:37:56,535 --> 01:37:59,175
Speaker 3: But look, you know it sounds like because you've been

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01:37:59,255 --> 01:38:02,775
Speaker 3: quite fastidious around your maintenance, you may get another two,

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01:38:02,895 --> 01:38:04,855
Speaker 3: three five years out of it, you know.

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01:38:05,615 --> 01:38:08,015
Speaker 6: Yes, and I think the trick tools will be the

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01:38:08,095 --> 01:38:08,975
Speaker 6: light colored juvy.

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01:38:09,575 --> 01:38:11,215
Speaker 3: It does make a big difference.

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01:38:13,015 --> 01:38:15,695
Speaker 6: The heat in the heat stops and movement, of course.

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01:38:15,735 --> 01:38:20,375
Speaker 6: And but no, look, thank you very much. Love keep

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01:38:21,695 --> 01:38:22,415
Speaker 6: maintenance program.

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01:38:22,575 --> 01:38:24,895
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. And maybe just put a side a

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01:38:24,935 --> 01:38:27,815
Speaker 3: few dollars every week and and that'll that'll help ease

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01:38:27,855 --> 01:38:33,775
Speaker 3: the pain. Nice one, you take care, see you and

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01:38:33,815 --> 01:38:36,575
Speaker 3: newstalk seed be and we're going to jump into the garden.

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01:38:36,695 --> 01:38:40,135
Speaker 3: Rude climb past is standing by. We're talking all things

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01:38:41,295 --> 01:38:43,535
Speaker 3: in the wonderful world of gardening and of course the

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01:38:43,535 --> 01:38:47,495
Speaker 3: wonderful world of bugs as well. Rude after the break for.

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